Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American Idio Scott blown
Speaker 1: back seven hundred WLW headed into the weekend. How about
Speaker 1: them Bearcats, Dan Hord, Well, let's we should just talk
Speaker 1: about the Bearcats for the next twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: What do you think aren't prepared to discuss anything you
Speaker 2: want to discuss, Floni. The last time we did one
Speaker 2: of these segments, I think the Bengals were two and
Speaker 2: oh and we were riding hide by the fact that
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow had suffered an injury. But yeah, I'd love to.
Speaker 1: Discuss the Bearcats.
Speaker 2: They've got a chance to pop into the top twenty
Speaker 2: five if they can beat Iowa State tomorrow. They're a
Speaker 2: slight favorite against the number fourteen team in the country
Speaker 2: that has a five and oh record. So this is
Speaker 2: a chance to really get fans around the country and
Speaker 2: locally buzzing about the UC Bearcats, who might have something
Speaker 2: special brewing.
Speaker 1: I'll get in aside. It's been fun to watch, and
Speaker 1: god knows, I've had a few weeks now, Dan too,
Speaker 1: as I recouper rate to watch football, and Brandon Sorosby
Speaker 1: he bawled out against Kansas, But I think almost four
Speaker 1: hundred yards two passing touchdowns and and just to watch
Speaker 1: them move the ball seemingly at will, either through the
Speaker 1: air or on the ground, is absolutely refreshing. And Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: let's put it that way.
Speaker 2: The game when he turned twenty nine seconds to go,
Speaker 2: that was one of the more entertaining games I've seen
Speaker 2: in a long, long time. Twelve hundred yards of offense,
Speaker 2: fifty five first downs, neither team ever led by more
Speaker 2: than seven points. It was like Ali versus Fraser back
Speaker 2: in the day. Uppercuts being thrown by both teams, and
Speaker 2: Cincinnati landed the last punch. So that was great. And
Speaker 2: as for Brendan Soresby, one of these ESPN number crunching
Speaker 2: gurus this week, great at every quarterback in the country.
Speaker 2: He came out number six, so he's really playing well.
Speaker 2: The offensive line has been tremendous. They've given up just
Speaker 2: one sack so far this season. So here we go,
Speaker 2: huge game tomorrow, see if the Bearcats can maybe pop
Speaker 2: into the top twenty five.
Speaker 1: I think so simply because you know, you've got a
Speaker 1: number fourteen team in Iowa State that comes into town limping,
Speaker 1: because if you look at their defensive back and they're
Speaker 1: missing like what four or five guys. It was four
Speaker 1: or five defensive backs alone, and if you look at
Speaker 1: the Brendon Soersby and the offense, you don't want to
Speaker 1: see the backups certainly can't come and step up and
Speaker 1: fill that role. But boy, that's asking a lot of
Speaker 1: that team.
Speaker 2: And not only are they missing a lot of guys
Speaker 2: in the secondary, but they're missing really good players. Both
Speaker 2: of their starting outside corners are out for the year,
Speaker 2: and both of those guys were all Big twelve at
Speaker 2: some point over the last couple of years, so they're
Speaker 2: really good players. Iowa State plays the defense at Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: started playing last year the three three five, and it's
Speaker 2: you know, the success is based on the play of
Speaker 2: the secondary. There are a lot of guys back there
Speaker 2: on every play to confuse the quarterback. Iowa State is
Speaker 2: always among the national leaders in interceptions. They've got six
Speaker 2: so far this year. So when you start subtracting the
Speaker 2: best guys at the most important unit, that figures to
Speaker 2: hurt the team. And we'll see if the bearcatsk can
Speaker 2: capital tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It's always about capitalizing when the other team is down,
Speaker 1: and that then causes us to pivot to our Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Bengals losing last week to the Denver Broncos twenty eight
Speaker 1: to three. On Monday Night Football, Bengals fall to two
Speaker 1: and two and the three and one Lions, one of
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl favorites, comes to town and the Bengals
Speaker 1: open a league worst ten point dogs at home. Uh jeez,
Speaker 1: where do you start here? Obviously, the big question this week,
Speaker 1: and the tongues have been wagging, is you know Dan
Speaker 1: Horde about Jake Browning. Let's face it, the Jake Browning
Speaker 1: that we saw what two years ago when Burrow went down.
Speaker 1: Not the same not the same Browning we're seeing today.
Speaker 1: Three points, first drive, get a field goal, that's it
Speaker 1: for the game. And it's not like, you know, Denver
Speaker 1: is one of the bigger teams in the AFC. The
Speaker 1: cry has been, we need a quarter we need a
Speaker 1: new quarterback. Russell Wilson's a workout. Get Russell Wilson, get
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, somebody through Jameis Winston out there too, and
Speaker 1: coach Taylors dougas Hilson said, no, we're not doing it now.
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that a game to get? If the
Speaker 1: Bengals get blown out on Sunday Dan does that narrative.
Speaker 2: Change, who knows, you know, if Jake Browning continues to
Speaker 2: struggle the way he's played the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 2: and at some point they would have to consider a change,
Speaker 2: whether that's guys that they already have. You know, they
Speaker 2: picked up Sean Clifford, the former Saint Jager High school
Speaker 2: quarterback a couple of weeks ago. That got Mike White,
Speaker 2: who's bounced around with a lot of NFL teams. So
Speaker 2: they've got other quarterbacks in the building right now that
Speaker 2: they could turn to, and Jake has to play better
Speaker 2: to keep his job. Let me push back on one
Speaker 2: thing that you said, Flowy. I do think Denver is
Speaker 2: one of the better teams in the AFC. You know,
Speaker 2: they're two and two, but they lost two games on
Speaker 2: walkoff field goals. They've got a seven game home winning streak,
Speaker 2: and it was a primetime game at night, so that's
Speaker 2: a tough game to win. Now, should it have been
Speaker 2: as lopsided as it was, of course not. The offense was,
Speaker 2: you know, non functional after the opening drive where they
Speaker 2: kicked the field goal, and that's really been the biggest problem.
Speaker 2: The offense just has done nothing. They can't hold onto
Speaker 2: the ball. They haven't been able to run the ball,
Speaker 2: so they're gonna have to get that fixed in a hurry.
Speaker 2: Jake did play well the first game he came in
Speaker 2: for Joe. He threw three interceptions, but he did help
Speaker 2: them score thirty one points in a win over Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: It's the Bengals only home game so far, so we'll
Speaker 2: see hopefully in Hombold they'll play a lot better on
Speaker 2: Sunday and maybe pull off a big upset, much like
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers did last night. I think San
Speaker 2: Francisco is about an eight point underdog last night, and
Speaker 2: they beat the Rams in LA, so it can be done.
Speaker 1: My take with that is Russell Wilson, Okay, or Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins or Winston. You know, we saw plenty of Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: It's not the same Russell Wilson who dominated the NFL
Speaker 1: for the better part of a decade. I think you're
Speaker 1: gonna lose. Maybe the end result is less embarrassing, Dan,
Speaker 1: but Russell Wilson is going to come in with a
Speaker 1: cape and learn that playbook. In the period of a
Speaker 1: week or two, and all of a sudden, the Bengals
Speaker 1: are going to be in playoff contention that that's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen.
Speaker 2: I mean, Russell Wilson. I see these, you know, posts
Speaker 2: on social media the Bengals have interest in Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2: Maybe proved me wrong, but I just don't see that
Speaker 2: one at all. I mean, of all the veteran names
Speaker 2: that have been tossed about, Jameis Winston doesn't excite me,
Speaker 2: although he's tremendously entertaining. Yeah, but you know, if you
Speaker 2: want to add to your career pick six totals, that's
Speaker 2: your guy.
Speaker 1: Kirk. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sure, Kirk Cousins I think can still really play now.
Speaker 2: I don't know about the contract ramifications because he got
Speaker 2: a huge deal from Atlanta before they drafted Michael Pennix,
Speaker 2: and Pennix is really struggling. So it's probably not out
Speaker 2: of the question that the Falcons are going to turn
Speaker 2: back to Kirk Cousins at some point. But again, I'm
Speaker 2: not really placing all of the blame here on Jake Browning.
Speaker 2: The offensive line has really struggled. That's where it begins.
Speaker 2: The offensive line has to perform better, and you know
Speaker 2: they've turned to two rookies now starting at guard I'm
Speaker 2: kind of enthused about Jalen Rivers. He had his up
Speaker 2: and down moments, certainly against Denver, but at least he's
Speaker 2: a guy they can give you some push in the
Speaker 2: running game. I thought he did that pretty well actually
Speaker 2: on Monday Night. Or more struggles in pass protection than
Speaker 2: run blocking, but they got to get the running game going.
Speaker 2: And if he's a guy that can get some push
Speaker 2: and right guard, sign me up.
Speaker 1: Let's see if.
Speaker 2: They can develop two young offensive linemen. Can that can
Speaker 2: be part of this line going forward?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, and that interior it's just been you and
Speaker 1: you wonder how much of that is just the problem
Speaker 1: that exists when you, okay, lose QB one in Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow covered up a lot of mistakes, as
Speaker 1: we know, on a lot of problems with this team.
Speaker 1: They got exposed in that line certainly doesn't help at all.
Speaker 1: But if they could help Chase run the ball a
Speaker 1: little bit better, I mean, just a few more yards
Speaker 1: of carry, that would certainly help a lot. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's going to matter. It seems like the
Speaker 1: lines though, Dan there, they are.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, especially on offense. Yeah, you know, they're averaging thirty
Speaker 2: four points a game. They're number one in the NFL.
Speaker 2: They averaged thirty three last year. That was number one
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Green Bay held them to say, thirteen
Speaker 2: points in Week one. The Packers won that game by fourteen,
Speaker 2: and they did it by exposing the inside of the
Speaker 2: Lions offensive line. They've got changes at left guard, center,
Speaker 2: and right guard. So early, at least it was problematic.
Speaker 2: Over the last three weeks it hasn't been. But if
Speaker 2: you can attack that team and hold them to a
Speaker 2: reasonable number, I think it begins with dominating the inside
Speaker 2: part of their offensive line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so much for the talk about losing their
Speaker 1: coordinators in the offseason. And Ben Johnson goes to the Bears, right,
Speaker 1: that looked like that other than the first in Week one.
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned Green Bay. But Week one is
Speaker 1: always like an anomaly in the NFL until you settle
Speaker 1: that pattern. Now week five, we've got a bit of
Speaker 1: a plan. Now we can see how teams have evolved,
Speaker 1: and certainly the Lions felt like they picked up where
Speaker 1: they left up. They don't seem as sharp as they
Speaker 1: did last year, but again it's still relatively early in
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 2: They scored fifty two in week two against the Bears.
Speaker 2: They certainly certainly.
Speaker 3: Looked sharp there.
Speaker 2: And they scored thirty four last week against the Browns.
Speaker 2: And we know how good the Browns defense is.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I will say in that game against Cleveland Denver, I'm
Speaker 2: sorry Detroit had a punt return touchdown. They had a
Speaker 2: lot of short fields because the Browns offense was so bad,
Speaker 2: so that contributed to scoring thirty four. But still thirty
Speaker 2: four against the Browns defense, to me, is like forty
Speaker 2: five against anybody else.
Speaker 1: Voice of All Sports in Cincinnati, Dan Hord on the
Speaker 1: show on seven hundred WLW turnovers and penalties and consecutive games.
Speaker 1: Now two weeks it was turnovers this lest we it
Speaker 1: was penalty after penalty. I mean, it was so frustrating,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you and Lapp had to be frustrated
Speaker 1: to be unbelief Clonbeck game, going another flag on the
Speaker 1: field and it's going to go against let me guess,
Speaker 1: the Bengals. It felt like at one point it was
Speaker 1: just raining yellow on the field in Denver. And the
Speaker 1: cry from the coaching staff is no more self inflicted errors.
Speaker 1: But now we've had a pattern of self inflicted errors,
Speaker 1: and it makes a fan wonder, Dan Horde, what's it
Speaker 1: going to be this week? What's the problem there. It's
Speaker 1: just the fact that you're you're getting blown out that
Speaker 1: guys are not you know, they're not they're not handling
Speaker 1: their business individually. Is that what it is? Is it
Speaker 1: that simple?
Speaker 2: Well, it's two completely different issues in those two games.
Speaker 2: So the turnovers to me, those are physical errors and
Speaker 2: then in the Denver game penalties those are mental errors.
Speaker 2: So it's two different things. You got to get rid
Speaker 2: of them this week. You know, Snowballs is the point,
Speaker 2: no doubt. I mean, when a game gets lopsided, all
Speaker 2: of its snowballs, it's the giant snowball rolling down the
Speaker 2: hill getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And that's what
Speaker 2: happens in the lopsided games. Uh So they've got to
Speaker 2: try to you know, let's let's make it a one
Speaker 2: score game going to the fourth quarter and see if
Speaker 2: you can pull it out at home. In last week's game,
Speaker 2: I thought they played great in the first quarter, scored
Speaker 2: on their opening drive, held Denver to a three and out.
Speaker 2: First time they're on defense. It was seven to three
Speaker 2: Denver early in the second quarter, they complete that long
Speaker 2: pass to Tee down to the fourteen yard line, so
Speaker 2: it looks like it's going to be you know, maybe
Speaker 2: ten seven Cincinnati at worst seven to six.
Speaker 1: Denver.
Speaker 2: And then that long pass got wiped out by a penalty.
Speaker 2: All right, that happens. You know, it sucks, but it's
Speaker 2: no big deal. And then before they snapped the ball again,
Speaker 2: another penalty, and then after I think one play, another penalty.
Speaker 2: They had four penalties in a two minute span, and
Speaker 2: to me, that really killed them in that game. And
Speaker 2: it's easy to say, well, it shouldn't it's early second quarter,
Speaker 2: but it did. And they have to avoid, you know,
Speaker 2: like you said, the snowball getting bigger and bigger when
Speaker 2: something bad goes against them.
Speaker 1: And you know, we saw that to some degree with
Speaker 1: Jake Browning and how many times and maybe you didn't
Speaker 1: see it, but I'm sure after watching, you know, watching
Speaker 1: the tape, he saw the cuts of the sideline. But
Speaker 1: the night football and here's Jimar Chase rolling is I mean,
Speaker 1: how many times was he open? I mean dead open?
Speaker 1: That score can bet a lot different, especially early on,
Speaker 1: but Jake Browning just simply couldn't find him or couldn't
Speaker 1: see him. And that's my fears. You start to lose,
Speaker 1: you know, the guys go, well, what are we doing
Speaker 1: out here? I've got no chance whatsoever, and maybe start
Speaker 1: to not play as hard and now you have a
Speaker 1: detrimental you have that effect going on. And that's that's my
Speaker 1: biggest fear, going back to the quarterback if if a
Speaker 1: change is not made. But you know, okay, great, you
Speaker 1: get Russell Wilson or Jamis Winston. Is that really going
Speaker 1: to change much other than maybe the narrative for a
Speaker 1: week or two other side of the ball. And when
Speaker 1: you start losing as badly as the Bengals have been,
Speaker 1: you start, you know, people start pointing the finger. Okay,
Speaker 1: well what about on defense? What about Christian Wilkins. Now
Speaker 1: there's a name that's come up to what if you
Speaker 1: start listening to folks climbing for somebody like Christian Wilkins.
Speaker 1: There's a reason that even the Raiders let him go.
Speaker 1: You don't want that guy in our locker.
Speaker 4: Room, do you.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, he was a great talent,
Speaker 2: but like you said, he's getting He got a huge
Speaker 2: contract from the Raiders and they don't want him so
Speaker 2: that says a lot make me too excited to make
Speaker 2: that pick up. Yeah, you know, if I'm a Bengals fan,
Speaker 2: I get the frustration, but I wouldn't be pining. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't be pining for any of the veteran names that
Speaker 2: you mentioned, whether it's quarterback, whether it's defensive line. That's
Speaker 2: not the issue. The issue is getting these top one
Speaker 2: hundred draft picks that they have selected in the last
Speaker 2: four years to either play better and realize that they
Speaker 2: are part of your future or come to the conclusion
Speaker 2: they're not going to cut it and we will have
Speaker 2: to make significant changes at those spots next year. So
Speaker 2: I hate to you know, already be looking ahead to
Speaker 2: next year's draft. I don't think we're there yet, but
Speaker 2: I do think it's very important to know exactly what
Speaker 2: you've got with the nine top one hundred draft picks
Speaker 2: that they've selected on defense in the last four years.
Speaker 2: So it is time to put up and shut up,
Speaker 2: or put up or shut up if you are you know,
Speaker 2: name one, Cam Taylor, Brick, Miles Murphy, whatever, these guys
Speaker 2: that were select to be a big part of their future,
Speaker 2: particularly on defense. With the money that you're spending on offense.
Speaker 2: That's what they've got to find out right now.
Speaker 1: Well, CTB was atrocious last week, and you know, I'll
Speaker 1: just say he's got to have a bounce back. I
Speaker 1: don't know how he doesn't have a bounce back game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he was only in for five snaps
Speaker 2: and two of them featured him whipping trying to tackle
Speaker 2: Courtland Sutton. So he's going to get his chance to
Speaker 2: bounce back this week, There's no doubt about it, and
Speaker 2: I hope he does. He was bad in week one, yep,
Speaker 2: good in week two. I thought he played well against Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: Injured in week three and I don't know how much
Speaker 2: that injury affected him in week four, but again five
Speaker 2: snaps and pulled out of the game after two really
Speaker 2: bad ones. He was battling a hamstring injury. He was
Speaker 2: apparently sick one day last week. So I'll cut him
Speaker 2: a little bit of slack. But he's got to bounce
Speaker 2: back and have a good game this week.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Outside you mentioned injuries outside of a Burrow obviously and
Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart, who would like to see more of because
Speaker 1: that's a very small sample size. Bell the Bengals are
Speaker 1: relatively injury free at this point. Just look at the
Speaker 1: eye report. Noah fan Charlie Jones showed up on what yesterday,
Speaker 1: I don't know about I don't know about yesterday's report,
Speaker 1: but Wednesday anyway, and I don't know if that's good
Speaker 1: or bad. Dan. I mean, if you looked at it,
Speaker 1: kind of like we we talked about Iowa stayed and
Speaker 1: now banged up they are, It's like, hey, you got
Speaker 1: excuses if you lose. If everyone outside QB one is
Speaker 1: relatively healthy, you don't have any excuses there. What's the
Speaker 1: injury report going into this weekend?
Speaker 2: Look like Shamar Stewart won't play unfortunately, so that'll be
Speaker 2: three games in a row for him, and that hurts
Speaker 2: because he was playing well before he hurt his angle.
Speaker 2: I think Noah Fant is back. He had a concussion
Speaker 2: that caused him to miss the previous game, but he's
Speaker 2: been trending up this week. Charlie Jones seems unlikely. He
Speaker 2: hurt his hams during He didn't care it, but he
Speaker 2: heard it in the game on Monday night in Denver.
Speaker 2: So I think they'll be missing a couple of guys.
Speaker 2: But as you mentioned, you know four weeks into an
Speaker 2: NFL season, All things considered, they're doing pretty well injury wise.
Speaker 2: As for the Lions, their best cornerback DJ Reid went
Speaker 2: on injured reserve this week. He heard his hamstring last
Speaker 2: week in Cleveland, so he's out. Their other outside corner,
Speaker 2: Terry and Arnold, is dealing with a shoulder issue, so
Speaker 2: I think he's likely to play, but he might be
Speaker 2: less than one hundred percent. He hasn't been playing very
Speaker 2: well anyway, so they do have a weakness at cornerback,
Speaker 2: and you know, hopefully if Jake Browning has time, they'll
Speaker 2: be able to take advantage of it. With Jamar and
Speaker 2: t that's where you got to try to attack Detroit,
Speaker 2: and with their cornerbacks injured, maybe they can.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But the problem is Jake Browning throwing
Speaker 1: the ball more than ten or fifteen yards. Sure he will.
Speaker 2: He was throwing a downfield early in that game against Denver.
Speaker 2: They were trying to attack Riley Moss, the same guy
Speaker 2: that they had so much success attacking last year when
Speaker 2: the Broncos came to pay Course Stadium. So he'll throw
Speaker 2: it downfield, but again it begins with protection. I'm more
Speaker 2: concerned about Jake Browning dropping back, hitting his third step
Speaker 2: or fifth step and not having somebody in his face
Speaker 2: than I am about Jake throwing the ball.
Speaker 1: It is going to be. I'm not looking forward tomorrow's
Speaker 1: matchup with the Bearcats. Dan Horde, voice of the Bengals,
Speaker 1: voice of the Bearcats, jumps on the show every Friday
Speaker 1: morning to chop it up. But I'm my fingers are crossed. Maybe,
Speaker 1: just maybe, I don't know if the line's coming and
Speaker 1: lay An Egg. I don't know what to think at
Speaker 1: this point, Dan, I really really don't Other than God,
Speaker 1: we need some help. Danny, thanks for coming on this morning.
Speaker 1: All the best, lonely, one thing, one thing before you
Speaker 1: let me go. Yes, Green Bay lost to Cleveland two
Speaker 1: weeks ago. It's the NFL. It's a week to week league.
Speaker 2: So no matter how bleak it seems, on any given Friday,
Speaker 2: when we discuss the upcoming game, we might be celebrating
Speaker 2: and talking about a joyous Bengles victory next week.
Speaker 1: At least we have long term hope. You know, at
Speaker 1: some point, Burrow, it may be late this season, maybe
Speaker 1: next year we'll come back. Cleveland has they're completely out
Speaker 1: of options. Twenty five quarterbacks since what nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 1: and you've got Sugar Sanders doing I don't know, press
Speaker 1: talking to the press and not saying any words, like
Speaker 1: literally miming words and not saying anything. And we're into
Speaker 1: another quarterback there, so it could be worse.
Speaker 2: Right, Dylan Gabriel makes his starting debut this week in London.
Speaker 2: We'll see how he does.
Speaker 1: All the best, Buddy very well, nois Man Dan Horde
Speaker 1: voice of the Bengals, she'll hear the game here and
Speaker 1: of course Bearcat Football tomorrow on the Home of the Cats.
Speaker 1: One of the best Bengals coverage. God help us. Seven
Speaker 1: hundred WW since Scott Flung Show Friday morning. This is
Speaker 1: seven hundred WW. Normally we're coming, you know, a little
Speaker 1: lighter the entire Friday morning because hell, it's Friday and
Speaker 1: you're tired. I'm not really that tired because it's started
Speaker 1: to working to get back to work yesterday. But is
Speaker 1: a another evidence of the tragedies and since we just
Speaker 1: had another two people shot last night in Cincinnati. If
Speaker 1: you go back a couple of weeks, the sixteen year
Speaker 1: old was shots in over the Rhine by an eighth
Speaker 1: you know, by the name of a Devon Markham, and
Speaker 1: he has since been arrested in connection to that deadly
Speaker 1: shooting of the sixteen year old. He's at the Justice
Speaker 1: Center on a million dollar bond. And now we have
Speaker 1: a backstory that is reminiscent of Patrick Herringer and everything else.
Speaker 1: Brian Combs is reporting this and broke it an X
Speaker 1: and Johnson. Now Combs not, by the way, not the
Speaker 1: Comb's facing eleven years. The other Combs, the Ryan Combs
Speaker 1: from the newsroom.
Speaker 5: Brian, good morning, Hi, Cincinnati police have set all summer.
Speaker 5: They've been getting violent criminals off the streets, only to
Speaker 5: watch them be released by Hamilton County judges. And this
Speaker 5: is a textbook case looking at the court records. Devon
Speaker 5: Markham's eighteen apparently had been convicted as a juvenile in
Speaker 5: Butler County of felonious assault. Cops caught him in April
Speaker 5: with a loaded firearm. In fact, they were chasing him
Speaker 5: when the gun fell out. Lucky, he said it didn't
Speaker 5: go off and wound the police officers who were in pursuit.
Speaker 5: But Markham had the loaded gun. Ended up in court
Speaker 5: in July, plea bargain was worked out. He was convicted
Speaker 5: of having a weapon under disability, which basically means that
Speaker 5: the judge or a court told him he couldn't have one,
Speaker 5: and he had one anyway.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 5: The penalty for that in Ohio is three years a
Speaker 5: third degree felony, but instead of sending him to prison,
Speaker 5: the judge in Hamilton County who handled the case decided
Speaker 5: to put him on probation for two years.
Speaker 1: So at the time that TJ.
Speaker 5: Bell was killed over the Rhine by Grant Park two
Speaker 5: weeks ago, Markham was on probation, but in violation of
Speaker 5: his probation. More research has shown that he never went
Speaker 5: to see a probation officer, was supposed to enroll in
Speaker 5: behavior modification classes, didn't do that. The judge in this case,
Speaker 5: ally hath the Way, had told him to find a job.
Speaker 5: Didn't do that either, So all the conditions of his
Speaker 5: parole were being violated. We don't know if anybody was
Speaker 5: trying to find him. He hadn't been violated on the
Speaker 5: charge till after this murder. So now they've checked several
Speaker 5: boxes saying, you know the reasons why he's violated his probation.
Speaker 5: He'll face the full three years on that, plus whatever
Speaker 5: he might get on the merger degree.
Speaker 1: It's Patrick Haringer and the like all over again, and
Speaker 1: that you have someone who is already jammed up a gun,
Speaker 1: someone who should not have a weapon simply because he's
Speaker 1: prohibited from it, meaning that that's the whole point of
Speaker 1: this thing is. And so instead of going, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: we're going to sentence you, We're going to put you
Speaker 1: on probation because I'm assuming it's the first gunspeck he's
Speaker 1: had gun violation. He said, well, he.
Speaker 5: Just turned eighteen, so he just I mean, just become
Speaker 5: an adult. So many other cases we're all in, but
Speaker 5: you are allowed to consider the juvenile record at sentencing
Speaker 5: for adult court.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if the judge did.
Speaker 5: I don't know if this is standard that you know,
Speaker 5: the first defense for a weapon under disability is probation.
Speaker 5: It's hard to search court records to see how other
Speaker 5: cases similar and handled. I did you know use AI
Speaker 5: to surgency if it's typical for somebody in Ohio to
Speaker 5: go to prison on this, And they said yes, anywhere
Speaker 5: from nine to thirty six months, depending on your past record,
Speaker 5: and if you were committing some other crime at the
Speaker 5: same time. So we know he had a past record
Speaker 5: and yet he still got probation. You know, police are
Speaker 5: so frustrated the overtime that they've been putting in this summer.
Speaker 5: A couple of these cases like this we've had this
Speaker 5: summer were cases where that special Fugitive Task Force that
Speaker 5: was just set up to deal with violent crime in Cincinnati,
Speaker 5: that they had caught the guys that were later released. Now,
Speaker 5: I don't know if if that is the case here,
Speaker 5: I'm trying to find out, but I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 5: at all if he was on their radar for something else.
Speaker 5: And you know, the arrest in this murder was made
Speaker 5: pretty quickly, so I would think that they have a
Speaker 5: pretty good idea of who he was and what he
Speaker 5: was up there. You just broke this story and you've
Speaker 5: got this all up on X right right Ax, Facebook,
Speaker 5: both of our pages have got it. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 5: to be honest, it doesn't take that much effort. You
Speaker 5: look at the court records and this stuff just jumps
Speaker 5: out at you, including the probation violation was just in
Speaker 5: court two days ago.
Speaker 1: All right, Brian colmbsaid great in the high bars.
Speaker 5: Now, just everybody knows and the Hamilton Guy justice set
Speaker 5: are a million dollars bud.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but it doesn't save the life of the
Speaker 1: sixteen year old who, by all accounts was just wrong place,
Speaker 1: wrong time, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not sure they haven't really said the circumstances
Speaker 5: of that. We had two actually we said two teams
Speaker 5: all day. But it turns out one of the victims
Speaker 5: last night was twelve. The other one I think was fourteen,
Speaker 5: shot in the drive by exact same spot in Grant Park.
Speaker 5: You'll see today a bunch of police officers, community volunteers.
Speaker 5: This has been targeted as one of the worst spots
Speaker 5: in the city, and today there's a part of the
Speaker 5: ac Cincinnati Gun Violence Effort, a beautification project where all
Speaker 5: kinds of neighborhood volunteers are out along with the police,
Speaker 5: cleaning up graffiti, cleaning up trash, trying to restore a
Speaker 5: little pride in the neighborhood, which they hope would help
Speaker 5: control the violence.
Speaker 1: If these knuckleheads are running around scott free not being
Speaker 1: held accountable for their actions, Brian again, it's at action
Speaker 1: Twitter seven hundred W. I appreciate a good job on that,
Speaker 1: Thanks enterprising young reporter you're going to make some something
Speaker 1: of yourself. One of these days, it's going to get
Speaker 1: a burrow or some sort of peabody or something along
Speaker 1: those lines. How outrageous is that to hear that this morning,
Speaker 1: on a beautiful Friday morning, we're getting excited for the
Speaker 1: weekend being here at all, and you got to hear this,
Speaker 1: so shot dead and by all accounts, good kid, just
Speaker 1: wrong place, wrong time, wasn't jammed up in anything. As
Speaker 1: far as we know, eighteen year old Devin Markham is
Speaker 1: behind bars and a million dollar hold. And it turns
Speaker 1: out and it's just part and parcel for what's passing
Speaker 1: is justice in Hamlet County and specific to the city
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. And then you have a judge going, well,
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't want to scar this kid
Speaker 1: for life. And granted, you know, kids, we all have
Speaker 1: done dumb stuff. I've known about you. I've never picked
Speaker 1: up a gun, never picked up a gun and aimed
Speaker 1: and pointed at someone and did it on the city
Speaker 1: street over some stupid beef. Never did that when I
Speaker 1: was a teenager. But Markham thought that was a good idea.
Speaker 1: And I'm guessing that the pattern of behavior just didn't
Speaker 1: begin and end with that gun. There was a bunch
Speaker 1: of things leading up to that. And you know, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: either we take gun crimes seriously or we don't. Now
Speaker 1: all you hear about every time there's a mass shooting
Speaker 1: another shooting is like, you know, the right is going
Speaker 1: to offer thoughts and prayers, then the left is going
Speaker 1: to offer more legislation and more laws that really aren't
Speaker 1: going to do anything because we have you're not going
Speaker 1: to You're not going to stop the tide to gun.
Speaker 1: The thirst for guns in America is huge. You know,
Speaker 1: under the Second Amendment of the Constitution, we're allowed to
Speaker 1: We're allowed to carry guns. Okay. I think that there
Speaker 1: is a great responsibility for those of us who choose
Speaker 1: to exercise that's that Second Amendment right in that to
Speaker 1: make sure the gun's locked up. I'm a big proponent
Speaker 1: of passing legislation and holding people accountable for who feel that, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to bring a gun with me,
Speaker 1: but in the area is where I can't carry, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna throw it under the seat of my car
Speaker 1: or leave it in a console or in a lot.
Speaker 1: And that's why cars are getting broken into I think
Speaker 1: that there's got to be uh And I hate to
Speaker 1: put more laws on those law abiding people like me
Speaker 1: and you, but damn it. If you're going to carry
Speaker 1: a gun and there's a lot of areas where you
Speaker 1: can't bring the gun with you, you got to do
Speaker 1: better than just simply leave it under the seat, because
Speaker 1: so many young people are breaking in the cars and
Speaker 1: stealing our guns. The guns are expensive, and I think
Speaker 1: about it. You park downtown a lot of areas, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have your windows smash. And they're not looking for
Speaker 1: change or remember the old days, they get some changes,
Speaker 1: steal your stereo. No one's stealing stereos out radios out
Speaker 1: of cars anymore, but they are. They're looking for guns.
Speaker 1: They're looking for weapons, and maybe laptops another step, but
Speaker 1: larger guns and a lot of the guns that are
Speaker 1: falling in these hands are coming from those sources. And
Speaker 1: that's on me and you as law abiding gun owners,
Speaker 1: to make sure that we've got that thing secure, like
Speaker 1: locked in a box that's bolted to the frame or
Speaker 1: chained to the seat, something along the lines. And now
Speaker 1: is that gonna you know, if someone really wants to
Speaker 1: take it, they bolt cutters or something, or a torch.
Speaker 1: Not too many criminals or torches, but it's moreble opportunities
Speaker 1: smash look around, I find a gun. Good, I got
Speaker 1: a gun, and then what do they do? They go
Speaker 1: run around and commit crimes. It's not on it. You're going, well,
Speaker 1: what do we need more laws against good people? Well,
Speaker 1: if if I carry and I take my weapon with me,
Speaker 1: I've got a safe in my car or my truck,
Speaker 1: and I make sure it's locked up, that's the best
Speaker 1: I can do. It doesn't mean that someone still can't
Speaker 1: steal it and smash the safe and everything else, but
Speaker 1: I at least didn't leave it under a seat that
Speaker 1: could lead to a tragedy like this. I did everything
Speaker 1: I possibly could. On the other hand, I think the
Speaker 1: bigger onus, though, is on the judicious the justice systems,
Speaker 1: particular in Hamlin County. It makes no sense to me
Speaker 1: that you have all these laws that restrict the rights
Speaker 1: of law abiding gun owners and then to turn around
Speaker 1: and simply when someone is caught under disability, meaning they're
Speaker 1: not allowed to have a weapon, be it a someone
Speaker 1: with a convicted felon or someone who's underage, and they're
Speaker 1: caught with a gun, to simply leave them with a
Speaker 1: slap on the wrist, to simply go, okay, well you're
Speaker 1: not one probation all right, all right, maybe this is
Speaker 1: his first defense. Let's play that game that Devin Markham,
Speaker 1: Devon Markham, this was his first defense. Probably not because
Speaker 1: he had a juvenile record, which a judge you'd look at,
Speaker 1: but the same thing I look at. Okay, great, So
Speaker 1: all you have to here's what you need to do.
Speaker 1: You need to report to your probation office. You need
Speaker 1: to get a job. You're eighteen years old, get a job,
Speaker 1: find a job. Okay. Great. Didn't do any of it.
Speaker 1: I mean literally was lying to the judge when she
Speaker 1: was telling him what the terms of his probation would be. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I'll do that, your honor. You know, when you don't
Speaker 1: have a job or you're not looking for each other
Speaker 1: and there's no one following up on this stuff, and
Speaker 1: that's the problem. It's it's like the ankle monitors, right,
Speaker 1: you cut off your ankle monitor. Okay, we'll put a
Speaker 1: we'll put a warrant out for your arrest. Well I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but if you're gonna do that, if you're gonna thumb
Speaker 1: the nose pay cutting off an ankle monitor said this
Speaker 1: plumb blue in the face cut off an ankle monitor.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it should be in all points, but you
Speaker 1: should be looking, actively searching for that individual. Like literally
Speaker 1: have teams available and I know the police fighter we
Speaker 1: just I mean, we just what another four and a
Speaker 1: half million for police, So there's got to be a
Speaker 1: test for us available at the ready, kind of like
Speaker 1: swaddle most Hey, somebody cut their ankle monitor off, We're
Speaker 1: gonna come find you right now. It's a priority because
Speaker 1: you're gonna do bad stuff. And I would say to
Speaker 1: to the same degree, if you violate those terms of probation,
Speaker 1: it should be at that point one striking your out.
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be well, you know, someday we'll probably commit
Speaker 1: a crime and hopefully it won't be murder and we'll
Speaker 1: pick them up at a later date. Well, guess what,
Speaker 1: it's murder now. And because of our laxadaisical attitude for
Speaker 1: those who wind up getting the bench in Hamlin County
Speaker 1: and in Cincinnati. This is just part in parcel Wiscon.
Speaker 1: It's Patrick Herringer. It's happened several times since then. And
Speaker 1: when does the insanity end. He was arrested in May
Speaker 1: on charges of having a weaponarner disability, sentenced to community
Speaker 1: control in July, and now in September, a sixteen year
Speaker 1: old boy is dead. All because we just simply trust
Speaker 1: the criminals and take their word for it. I understand
Speaker 1: that the dockets are filled with people. The judges are very,
Speaker 1: very busy. They're overworked. Everyone's overworked these days. I get that.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. But if we're going to spend all
Speaker 1: this money in law enforcement, I think a lot of
Speaker 1: this money needs to debid. A greater portion of money
Speaker 1: needs to be spent on making sure the defenders like
Speaker 1: this as soon as they reviolate, they get swept up.
Speaker 1: That is really the only way to stop, because how
Speaker 1: many of these violent crimes occur a someone who shouldn't
Speaker 1: have had the gun in the first place, who shouldn't
Speaker 1: have been on parole, who should have been behind bars,
Speaker 1: who violated their probation, who cut off the ankle monitor.
Speaker 1: It's just a steady drum beat now of violence, and
Speaker 1: then weeks later we found out, well, this is someone
Speaker 1: who shitting been on the street in the first place.
Speaker 1: I mean, how many more chances do you give an individual,
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, I'm all for trying to
Speaker 1: reform someone someone turned their life around, whatever it might be.
Speaker 1: And there's not a lot, but there's playing of stories
Speaker 1: of people who go to prison and get the fear
Speaker 1: of God. Put them because they want to live their
Speaker 1: life behind bars and live that way like an animal
Speaker 1: the rest of their lives and go, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm done with this, okay, And that's awesome. Not everyone,
Speaker 1: not probably not most people, because recidivism rates are pretty
Speaker 1: high in America, but it's a lot of people. If
Speaker 1: you're younger, I don't want to give up any I
Speaker 1: want to give you, certainly a second chance. But you
Speaker 1: got to play the game. You got to engage if
Speaker 1: you right from the jump go yeah, I'm not showing
Speaker 1: up to team with a probation officer. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to find a job that tells me you're not serious,
Speaker 1: serious about turning your life around. And you can make
Speaker 1: an excuse, go, well, you know what kind of job
Speaker 1: am I going to find, especially in this economy right now? Fair?
Speaker 1: But you know, for those of us who've ever been
Speaker 1: on unemployment, you have to prove on a fairly regular
Speaker 1: basis to the State of Ohio. If you're if you're
Speaker 1: drawing funds from them, you have to prove to them
Speaker 1: that you're actively searching for a job. Okay, And that's
Speaker 1: just someone who's lost their job through I don't know,
Speaker 1: reduction and force, maybe the boss, maybe you know reasons
Speaker 1: what it. But largely people who get laid off furloughed,
Speaker 1: as the case may be, they didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a numbers game, and those people are
Speaker 1: held to a higher level of accountability than people who
Speaker 1: vitolated the law in this case, In this case Devon Markham,
Speaker 1: who didn't even bother looking for a job. Like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, a State of Ohio employment benefits that I
Speaker 1: pay into by the way that my employer pays and
Speaker 1: so I go to claim those benefits, I got to
Speaker 1: prove to you on a regular basis that I'm looking
Speaker 1: for a job. This guy is foeling the law of
Speaker 1: the gun laws as a juvenile, and we hold abiding,
Speaker 1: hard working people who get fired, who get reduced to
Speaker 1: get laid off to a higher standard than the street criminal.
Speaker 1: Doesn't make any damn sense, does it, But welcome to Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: That's how we roll here. That's exactly how we roll.
Speaker 1: I've got to get a break, and we got news
Speaker 1: on the way in just a few minutes. Staria. Somewhere
Speaker 1: around ten o'clock or a little bit there after. It
Speaker 1: is the sentencing of not Brian Colms, but Sean did
Speaker 1: He Colms. He's looking at a maximum I think about
Speaker 1: eleven years and has finally said, hey, listen, I screwed up.
Speaker 1: I made a mistake. Give me a break. Maybe a
Speaker 1: little late for that. Now we'll see how the court
Speaker 1: treats him. We've got that going on, probably the only
Speaker 1: big serious topic. The other element going on today is
Speaker 1: Bengals football, which is also a tragedy too because the
Speaker 1: Bengals have the Detroit Lions coming to town. The most
Speaker 1: lopsided odds in the entirety of the NFL this week
Speaker 1: are right here in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Bengals are ten
Speaker 1: point underdogs to the Detroit Lions. Lions come in roll
Speaker 1: and they won. I think they lost their first game,
Speaker 1: and then they have been rolling teams and looking very
Speaker 1: formidable as the Lions of last season. And that first
Speaker 1: week is always an anomaly in the NFL, just the
Speaker 1: way it is. But three straight wins of the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1: So Dan Campbell and his crew, Jared Goff coming to
Speaker 1: town and the Bengals extremely vulnerable right now. I know
Speaker 1: there are people screaming and clamoring to bring Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: in here. What about James Wilson, Jameis Winston, what about
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. Now, the Bengals are very reluctant, first of all,
Speaker 1: to trade any draft capital for Kirk Cousins or Jameis
Speaker 1: Winston because you're gonna have to give up some draft
Speaker 1: capital for that. Probably not likely. Also, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I watch a couple of games, a couple of games
Speaker 1: with Russ Wilson, who you know, ten years ago, This
Speaker 1: is not the ten years ago Russ Wilson. Russ Wilson's
Speaker 1: terrible right now. Will you lose to the Detroit Lions
Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson as your quarterback? Yes, you may lose
Speaker 1: by a narrower margin than you would with Jake brown
Speaker 1: because Jake Browning is the other side of terrible right now,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how he's going to get better
Speaker 1: in a week, especially against the team that's coming to
Speaker 1: the town this weekend. But is it just a difference
Speaker 1: between losing by not a why to margin is why
Speaker 1: you would go get a Russell Wilson That that's what
Speaker 1: it seems like to me, especially with the teams Bengals
Speaker 1: are going to face the next few weeks. So he
Speaker 1: minds we just keep this guy and write this season
Speaker 1: off yet again and Bengal fandom. The good news is well,
Speaker 1: at least we're not Cleveland. If you're looking for a
Speaker 1: silver line in Cleveland has no quarterback future at this
Speaker 1: point unless it's Sharter Sanders, which doesn't look likely because
Speaker 1: he's already playing to get the hell out of Cleveland. Uh,
Speaker 1: just because he's doing the locker room with the media.
Speaker 1: At least there's Joe Burrow may come back this season,
Speaker 1: h probably next season for sure. It'll see it goes.
Speaker 1: But it ain't going to be a good It ain't
Speaker 1: gonna be a good weekend in Cincinnati. If you believe
Speaker 1: the odds makers, and I kind of do. There's a
Speaker 1: reason why they do what they do because usually they're
Speaker 1: right anyway.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Austin Elmore later on this at ten thirty five Scott
Speaker 1: Sloan Show, seven hundred WWT Cincinnati.
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Speaker 1: it could lead to your own demise. Billio Vincent Gambudo
Speaker 1: is here. Please don't subscribe. He is a master saying
Speaker 1: no with something that most people are bad at. Welcome
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Speaker 3: Thanks so much? Thanks for having me. I'm good I
Speaker 3: said yes to this, bapply.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why are you saying yes to me? That would
Speaker 1: be the ultimate. It's like, hey, you want to get
Speaker 1: on and talk about you know, unsubscribed. No, I'm good,
Speaker 1: I've got too much, got too much going on, kind
Speaker 1: of self defeeding. You pick the important stuff, and I
Speaker 1: think that's true though we all have to. Man, I
Speaker 1: guess I need to do this in order to fulfill
Speaker 1: some sort of goal that I have, which would be
Speaker 1: to sell books. I appreciate that. I appreciate taking time.
Speaker 1: I've come on, But so yeah, why say? Where do
Speaker 1: you draw a line of things? How do you how
Speaker 1: do you determine what's in and what's out? In some days?
Speaker 1: I think for most of us, it depends on how
Speaker 1: we feel at that exact moment in time. Do you
Speaker 1: catch me the right time? I might say, yes, you
Speaker 1: catch me the wrong time. I'm probably gonna say.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, and you know what, either way is okay.
Speaker 3: The kind of first, the first important part of saying
Speaker 3: no right is understanding that it's okay and we've all
Speaker 3: been really, really conditioned and souls are really sexy story
Speaker 3: you know, in America in the last twenty years, that
Speaker 3: we've got to say yes right, say you know, Carpa
Speaker 3: diam say yes to the dress right like you know,
Speaker 3: yes is the answer to everything we've always wanted. And
Speaker 3: I think we live in a different time now right
Speaker 3: where your we're constantly bombarded left, right and center with messages,
Speaker 3: with information, with things to process, not only just commitments
Speaker 3: and requests, but just you know, life is overwhelming, and
Speaker 3: so learning how to be savvy about saying no really
Speaker 3: really really is important. But the first step really is
Speaker 3: to understand that you can say it right without without
Speaker 3: without sort of losing losing at all, which is I
Speaker 3: think the fear that we.
Speaker 1: Have yeah, and the message bombarding it doesn't begin and
Speaker 1: end with it, but it's the mobile device, it's a text,
Speaker 1: it's something on social media, it's a direct message, it's
Speaker 1: an email, it's a call, it's we are bombarded NonStop
Speaker 1: with esks. That largely is the I think the tipping
Speaker 1: point for this conversation isn't it is If we got
Speaker 1: rid of our mobile device and just didn't respond, we'd
Speaker 1: be in much better headspace.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's really important, you know. I mean
Speaker 3: these times, this technology it calls for us to be
Speaker 3: you know, really really specific and intentional about how we
Speaker 3: use these devices. I mean, you know, the companies that
Speaker 3: sell them, they want us to use it in a
Speaker 3: certain way, and we've got to sort of wake up
Speaker 3: to the fact that that way is not serving us well. Right,
Speaker 3: Being connected twenty four hours a day, being always on,
Speaker 3: being accessible, having no boundaries, right, these things are not
Speaker 3: serving us. There's not helping life be better, richer, deeper,
Speaker 3: more satisfying. And so, you know, from a very very
Speaker 3: surface level logistically, right, we've got to make decisions about
Speaker 3: how we use these devices. My laptop is for this,
Speaker 3: my phone is for that. I'm going to set some
Speaker 3: rules and parameters for myself.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, those are the things that have been eroded,
Speaker 3: and they've been eroded on purpose, right, so that we
Speaker 3: just feel constantly connected and on uh and uh and
Speaker 3: and it's really kind of time in the in the
Speaker 3: large scale or in a large viewed here. Uh, to
Speaker 3: just get some some clearer and cleaner boundaries.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's talk about taking back our time. How
Speaker 1: do we set those boundaries? And it's easier said than done.
Speaker 1: And I think in particular, and and I'm generalizing here,
Speaker 1: of course, maybe stereotyping, but it seems like women have
Speaker 1: much more difficulty men and saying no. They want to
Speaker 1: try to be everything to everybody. They don't want to
Speaker 1: disappoint you know, kids and husbands, spouses, or certainly their
Speaker 1: girlfriends and people at work, and so they try to
Speaker 1: do everything all the time. And there's plenty of guys
Speaker 1: that do that. Don't get me wrong, A lot of
Speaker 1: us do that. But generally you look at this and go, wow,
Speaker 1: that's that hits women on the head. And I think
Speaker 1: that is why women feel so compromise these days. But
Speaker 1: all right, so, how do I begin by saying no?
Speaker 1: How do you train someone to say no who's programmed
Speaker 1: to say yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, you know, it is the question of
Speaker 3: our time. I think that that all starts. It all
Speaker 3: starts on the surface, right, I think, and I like
Speaker 3: to look at all of this through the through the
Speaker 3: lens of a sort of three places that we can
Speaker 3: look at and target in our lives. One being the surface, right,
Speaker 3: all the screens, everything that we're touching all day long,
Speaker 3: our digital life. Second being our social networks, both on
Speaker 3: and off right, sort of learning to speak to them
Speaker 3: and defy some of the narratives that we have and
Speaker 3: that we share that somehow know succept is being busy
Speaker 3: constantly and that you know, we we we sort of
Speaker 3: parent these beliefs around to one another all day long, right,
Speaker 3: and kind of learning to say, you know what, I
Speaker 3: don't believe that, I don't think that's true. I think
Speaker 3: I have to sort of create a different space for
Speaker 3: myself and for my family. And then that sort of
Speaker 3: third level, which I talk about in my book, really
Speaker 3: is sort of these underlying subscriptions. What does that mean?
Speaker 3: It just sort of means, like the beliefs that we
Speaker 3: hold really really pearly, you know, about our identity and
Speaker 3: who we are. I you know, certainly before the pandemic,
Speaker 3: which was a really big turning point for me. I
Speaker 3: know we're all sick of talking about it, but but
Speaker 3: you know this, it was sort of the genesis of
Speaker 3: my work was My life was just constant, right, It
Speaker 3: was just on the go all the time, always everywhere.
Speaker 3: And I can't speak to women specifically, but I can
Speaker 3: speak from my perspective, which is that, you know, I
Speaker 3: was feeling like, oh my god, I have been to
Speaker 3: be this upwardly mobile, successful type a person and I
Speaker 3: never stopped back to question any of it. So, you know, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 3: I think there are things we can do on the surface,
Speaker 3: but so much of this is about digging even deeper
Speaker 3: to understand. You know, why are why do we feel
Speaker 3: the need to people please, Why do we feel the
Speaker 3: need to always link success with being busy? Why do
Speaker 3: we feel the need constantly to be accessible to everyone
Speaker 3: or to not find the words to politely say, you
Speaker 3: know what, my time, attention, money, cash, all those things
Speaker 3: are super important to me and have to take precedence
Speaker 3: right now. And I don't necessarily mean it, you know,
Speaker 3: one to one with everyone, but I do mean when
Speaker 3: you look at the whole of life, right, how can
Speaker 3: I be how can I be a little bit more
Speaker 3: selfish in how I spend my time and where I've
Speaker 3: put my focus, so anyway to be practical about it.
Speaker 3: One of the things that I you know, suggest people
Speaker 3: take a look at is not even necessarily you know,
Speaker 3: do this or do that, but take a step back
Speaker 3: and ask the question, you know, how can I slow
Speaker 3: this down? How can I put more structure in? And
Speaker 3: how can I make this more human? And I think
Speaker 3: those are the three things that have happened in the
Speaker 3: last ten and twenty years in our country because of
Speaker 3: all of this tech, because of how wired we are,
Speaker 3: we have sped it all up. We have taken the
Speaker 3: parameters and the boundaries away, and we've made it less human.
Speaker 3: And so, you know, from a just practical perspective, if
Speaker 3: we can stop in any given moment that's overwhelming to
Speaker 3: us and ask those questions, I think people, you know,
Speaker 3: can find the answers that are specific to their lives
Speaker 3: and helpful to them by by start of taking that breath.
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, it's Julia Vincent Gambudo on the
Speaker 1: show this morning. Please under subscribe. Thanks taking back our time,
Speaker 1: attention and purpose and world designed to bury us and bs,
Speaker 1: which is largely true. It just we pilot on pilot
Speaker 1: on pilod on. Although I just had this conversation with
Speaker 1: a buddy of mine and he's a guy. You know
Speaker 1: gen X are like me, uh and raised by parents
Speaker 1: and there and also grandparents too, where work was everything
Speaker 1: for man. Right, It's like, okay, you go when you work,
Speaker 1: you work your work, you work, you work all day,
Speaker 1: you work hard, you work smart, you make your money,
Speaker 1: and then hopefully at the end you start to cash
Speaker 1: out and enjoy the fruits of your labor. I think
Speaker 1: that models changed because we have seen in a lot
Speaker 1: of people are as older certainly would look at it
Speaker 1: and go, oh my god, nobody wants to work anymore.
Speaker 1: And I think it's partly true, and it looks and
Speaker 1: appears that way, but you know, look at it this way.
Speaker 1: When you were working when you were younger, Hey can
Speaker 1: we go and uh, we're gonna want a family vacation.
Speaker 1: How much time did you spend working while on vacation
Speaker 1: because things were expected you at work or weekends or nights,
Speaker 1: or you may be distracted by different projects and things
Speaker 1: you had to get done. And so you know, kids
Speaker 1: absorb that like a sponge and they say, all right, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we live a nice life. I guess, relatively speaking,
Speaker 1: we always want more as a kid. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, you know, I saw what work has done
Speaker 1: to my parents. I saw the two thousand and eight
Speaker 1: housing collapse, what that did a lot of people. We
Speaker 1: saw what happened during the pandemic and people losing their jobs,
Speaker 1: Like and I think you're good people look at that
Speaker 1: and said, you know what, tomorrow is not given. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna enjoy life in the moment, at the moment, right now. Now,
Speaker 1: do they want nice things with I'm putting that kind
Speaker 1: of effort in absolutely. But you can choose to have.
Speaker 1: You can choose to live that life where you're not
Speaker 1: consumed with work and not consumed with burning the mid
Speaker 1: not all and doing those things at previous generations, but
Speaker 1: you're probably not going to have as much at the end.
Speaker 1: So that is a choice that you will make. I
Speaker 1: respect that out of today said that they literally, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm going on vacation now. I'm not waiting until I'm
Speaker 1: in my sixties to travel. I think that's an awesome thing.
Speaker 1: But you're doing at the expense of future comfort, and
Speaker 1: that's a trade off you have to accept.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I agree with you. I think well, first,
Speaker 3: I think our generation I'm a sennial. I guess they
Speaker 3: call us these folks who were born, you know, late seventies,
Speaker 3: early eighties, and we're sort of sandwiched in the middle.
Speaker 3: We we we grew up without email and without tech,
Speaker 3: and then graduated college and suddenly, right, you know, so
Speaker 3: we went out into the professional world really unequipped, really
Speaker 3: uh to to understand what this all meant and what
Speaker 3: it what it asks of us. But to your point,
Speaker 3: you know, I think this generation, the younger generation, is
Speaker 3: seeing these things, but they're also seeing that the mass
Speaker 3: doesn't add up, right, and without without stoking a political fire,
Speaker 3: I mean, the truth is that, you know, the numbers
Speaker 3: just do not support working at that kind of level.
Speaker 3: You know that that past generations did. Right, We're seeing
Speaker 3: that we're getting less for our money. We're seeing that
Speaker 3: prices for even homes, right, which is like this major
Speaker 3: symbol of our financial and material success, right, that is
Speaker 3: a different proportion of our income. It is a much
Speaker 3: much larger buy in than it has ever been before.
Speaker 3: We're seeing that even the cost of vacations right proportional
Speaker 3: to what people make per year, has gone up. So
Speaker 3: all those things, I mean, those are small examples, but
Speaker 3: there are plenty in the list as long of sort
Speaker 3: of where the map isn't massing right.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 1: I hate the fact by the way that older people
Speaker 1: in particular, maybe, but you know, you can work hard
Speaker 1: to or three or four jobs, but that's not the
Speaker 1: same as it was when we were young, when you
Speaker 1: were when I was young, certainly, and for you, and
Speaker 1: if you're older, if you know, in your sixties, seventies,
Speaker 1: eighties or whatever, it's a whole different dynamic. Now. You
Speaker 1: could work, you know, four different full time jobs and
Speaker 1: still have a hard time servicing your debt. There's inflation.
Speaker 1: Inflation has gone up, and wages have not kept up,
Speaker 1: and we've seen the gap between GDP and wages just
Speaker 1: continue to grow further and further apart. It's a real deal.
Speaker 1: Don't be dismissive of younger people say, man, I'm working,
Speaker 1: you know, I just I can't get ahead. Well, you
Speaker 1: need to work harder. Well, you know now, if you're
Speaker 1: up there in age, yeah, maybe you worked hard, but
Speaker 1: your money went a lot today And when I were
Speaker 1: talking about getting buried in college debt and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and so I think that work is becoming less important
Speaker 1: to individuals. But I would say that work is the
Speaker 1: business of the United States, the business of America's business,
Speaker 1: and that means people have to work. And so if
Speaker 1: you're not willing to do that at some point, are
Speaker 1: you're going to do it less? And God bless you
Speaker 1: if you that's your choice, But you stand a high
Speaker 1: likelihood that AI is going to come in and fill
Speaker 1: that void.
Speaker 3: Well, I think now it is going to not only
Speaker 3: fill the void, it's going to blow the void his
Speaker 3: bery here. And I think where we are, you know,
Speaker 3: not necessarily completely emotionally prepared for what's about to happen,
Speaker 3: for the losses that we're going to see. Not to
Speaker 3: be doomsday about it, because I think there is a
Speaker 3: scenario where this can be helpful to humanity. This can
Speaker 3: be helpful to the economy and also to our to
Speaker 3: our day to day. But we've got to have really,
Speaker 3: really much larger conversations and at the highest levels.
Speaker 2: Of power about how we use.
Speaker 3: AI in order to benefit the masses. Right and right
Speaker 3: now it's in the hands of a handful of corporations
Speaker 3: that are only going to use it for their specific
Speaker 3: gain and goals, and so it's it's really you know,
Speaker 3: now is the time to be having a conversation, to
Speaker 3: be pushing back and to be speaking tru to power
Speaker 3: to say, hey, you know, while this is going to
Speaker 3: change humanity, how is everyone going to benefit?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: And I don't think everyone needs to necessarily. I'm not
Speaker 3: talking about, you know, outright socialism. I'm talking about having
Speaker 3: conversations about how we fuel capitalism with things like AI. Right,
Speaker 3: this is world changing, This is life altering for all
Speaker 3: of humanity. And I think we've got to wake up
Speaker 3: to how significant a change is coming and start to
Speaker 3: really have serious conversations about how that gets spread out
Speaker 3: right among three hundred million people here in the US
Speaker 3: and obviously more across the world. But how do you
Speaker 3: bring that benefit? And I'm not an AI specialist, but
Speaker 3: the question to be asked is how do you bring
Speaker 3: that benefit to as many people as possible?
Speaker 1: Probably going to make things worse where it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, look at the ads for everything that's technology's
Speaker 1: going to make your life so much either. No, it's
Speaker 1: not just gonna make it more complex. I'll have more
Speaker 1: different things to do and more passwords to remember and
Speaker 1: crap like that. And I get why younger people are
Speaker 1: checking out, and maybe we've peaked at that too, because
Speaker 1: how much of this do you think we had a
Speaker 1: glimpse of life when COVID went on. I mean, we
Speaker 1: look back at COVID, it was a scary time. For sure,
Speaker 1: we didn't know where this thing was headed. But for
Speaker 1: a lot of people listening to the early days anyway,
Speaker 1: it was like, wait a minute, hold on a second,
Speaker 1: I can work from home. I can work remotely. I
Speaker 1: don't have that now if you lost your job obviously
Speaker 1: because of that's a different story or a riff. But
Speaker 1: for most people it's like, okay, I can work from home.
Speaker 1: What does that look like. I'm in my pajamas and
Speaker 1: it's like, you know what, nothing that We're not going
Speaker 1: to go out and socialized because everything's closed. It's it's
Speaker 1: amazing how in just a few years we've gotten way
Speaker 1: far away from that. We had a taste of like
Speaker 1: slowing life downe but clearly those Americans we don't want
Speaker 1: that we've returned to office is a thing. We've ramped
Speaker 1: it all up, and I think we exceeded where we
Speaker 1: were in twenty twenty before COVID really hit.
Speaker 3: I mean, so many of the numbers are bearing out
Speaker 3: that we are back with a bench. Yeah, no doubt,
Speaker 3: you know, and I think part of that. You know,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of reasons you could point to for
Speaker 3: why we went back to normal, but one of the
Speaker 3: things I think that's really important is that we were
Speaker 3: committed to it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: We had we had a thirty year mortgage, right, not
Speaker 3: a five or ten year or fifteen, right. We had
Speaker 3: a we had jobs that all of it. I'm not
Speaker 3: ever saying that, you know, people don't have to go
Speaker 3: and work and make a living, but I do think
Speaker 3: that we went back very easily, and we went back
Speaker 3: sort of because the story was sold to us that
Speaker 3: you know, normal is normal is good, Normal is what
Speaker 3: we need in our lives. And we've got to get
Speaker 3: back to the over consumption, and we've got to get
Speaker 3: back to the go, go go and the run goun run,
Speaker 3: you know. And I think it just behooves all of
Speaker 3: us to kind of just remember that in those moments
Speaker 3: when the chips were down and things looked really dark,
Speaker 3: you know what was important to us, Right? What did
Speaker 3: we run to? Who are the people we turned to?
Speaker 3: What are the things that we did? I mean, there's
Speaker 3: no way to recreate that moment, and I wouldn't want to,
Speaker 3: but there was a great value in it, right, There
Speaker 3: was great value in sort of understanding like, oh wow,
Speaker 3: my life actually boiled down to these ten fifteen people,
Speaker 3: like these few things that I love to do, these people.
Speaker 2: That I love, this recipe that I like me whatever
Speaker 2: it is, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And tearing that forward can be a difficult process.
Speaker 3: But I think you know, the first step that sort
Speaker 3: of recognizing it, even writing it down, being really aware
Speaker 3: of kind of you know, what was it in that
Speaker 3: moment that I ran to that was valuable to me
Speaker 3: and meaningful for me? And how can I bring that
Speaker 3: forward in my life? But I think you're totally right
Speaker 3: that COVID with this weird exercise and anti socialism, right.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me you well too long. Didn't read
Speaker 1: just say no. Sometimes I'll say no a lot more
Speaker 1: often at least his equal number of yes is that
Speaker 1: you give. You keep saying yes to stuff all the time,
Speaker 1: you're headed that cycle of burnout. That's real because it
Speaker 1: comes at us all the time, not saying, you know,
Speaker 1: stop being charitable or hopeful, or be a good friend
Speaker 1: or a husband, or a mother or a son or
Speaker 1: a daughter saying you know you sometimes you'll just got
Speaker 1: the carved room out for yourself. I get that, now,
Speaker 1: get that later in life anyway. Maybe it involves sitting
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Speaker 1: are you right now? You come? This is your one
Speaker 1: call you're allowed from the lock up.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'm just I'm at home. I'm prepared at home.
Speaker 7: You were shared, you're prepared. You're not here that you're
Speaker 7: prepared or you're prepared. You're Prepared's good. We're we're on
Speaker 7: a remote today. We're going to be over at home,
Speaker 7: a rama over at the Foundry in Oakley with tell
Speaker 7: windows and doors. So I'm doing all my prep from
Speaker 7: home today. Try to stay away from you as much
Speaker 7: as I can.
Speaker 1: Dosn't got any bigger than that to well, you know,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't catch what I have my relative
Speaker 1: to my ankle injury, which that's not communicable disease. But
Speaker 1: that's all right. Maybe my luck, I probably would probably would.
Speaker 1: Where do we jump in this morning? We could kick
Speaker 1: around the ryy of the Reds pretty much. That's over.
Speaker 1: We exhausted that topic. Yesterday I watched nothing. I enjoyed
Speaker 1: watching some playoff baseball last night and the very generous
Speaker 1: strike zone. Granted than that the Cubs affair last night
Speaker 1: as Well's boy, I'll tell you what, watching some of
Speaker 1: the umpiring, and now that you know for a while
Speaker 1: now all the broadcasts that have sports or have baseball
Speaker 1: rather have the strike zone in it and just further
Speaker 1: emphasizes the difference between AI and the technology we have
Speaker 1: and the human eyeball. Because man, I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: it was egregious yesterday. If you want to you want
Speaker 1: to make sure that you your job is outsourced to computers.
Speaker 1: I think that was evidence last night with the Cubs
Speaker 1: Padres game. Yeah, I mean, without a doubt.
Speaker 8: I mean, major league umpires missed thousands and thousands and
Speaker 8: thousands of ball strike calls per week, and so over
Speaker 8: the course of a season, that adds up really quickly.
Speaker 8: And so next year they have an ounce that they're
Speaker 8: going to bring in the automated ball strike system, the
Speaker 8: Challenge System, and I think it's going to be good
Speaker 8: for baseball. I think last year when they were testing
Speaker 8: it both in the minor leagues, they did it in
Speaker 8: the All Star Game. This year in major leagues, they
Speaker 8: did in Major League Spring Training. And the whole thing
Speaker 8: took I think roughly thirteen seconds on average for a
Speaker 8: challenge to go through. So if it's that, you know,
Speaker 8: it's that small and it doesn't require too much time
Speaker 8: and too much effort, and you know, the video boards
Speaker 8: and the cameras and the technology, you might as well
Speaker 8: use it to get the calls right, especially in a
Speaker 8: game like last night, where the padres would have been
Speaker 8: able to successfully challenge several calls that the umpires missed,
Speaker 8: and you know they were not happy with the umpires
Speaker 8: and were yelling at him coming off the field.
Speaker 1: I don't blame him. Yeah, I get it. I get
Speaker 1: in tar So Red is not part of the conversation.
Speaker 1: We kind of covered this the other day talking about
Speaker 1: what the off season looks like for the Red Legs.
Speaker 1: We move on to current sports and probably should jump
Speaker 1: right into Bengals talk this morning as the three and
Speaker 1: one Lions come running into town. Here with that Dan
Speaker 1: Campbell at the Helm, ten point underdogs at home, the
Speaker 1: widest prediction as far as losses go in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Here you want to talk about just a glaring beatdown
Speaker 1: that is about to be experienced at pay Course, Davy,
Speaker 1: it's going to be with us. Earlier I talked to
Speaker 1: Dan Horde and he tends to be optimistic about things.
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I would say I'm looking at
Speaker 1: Jake Browning situation, not that Jake Browning. We saw just
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. It's a pal comparison. However,
Speaker 1: I can't believe people are clamoring for Russell Wilson to
Speaker 1: take over that What exactly is Russell Wilson going to offer? Now,
Speaker 1: maybe he hits Jamar Chase and a couple of those
Speaker 1: blatantly open routesies on, but you get do you give
Speaker 1: up draft capital and do you get Russell Wilson just
Speaker 1: to make the losses closer? I just I don't understand
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose. You're just gonna lose by probably less
Speaker 1: of a margin. Does that matter? Yeah?
Speaker 8: Well, I think the Bengals might believe, or most people
Speaker 8: might believe that the Bengals margin isn't that big in
Speaker 8: that a good quarterback could, you know, help shrink that
Speaker 8: margin and make those games a lot more winnable, a
Speaker 8: lot more competitive. I tend to think right now that
Speaker 8: even if you went out and acquired Russell Wilson or
Speaker 8: Jamis Winston or Derek Carr or insert quarterback here, that
Speaker 8: it's not going to have that big of a difference.
Speaker 8: And the main reason I say that is that the
Speaker 8: defense is still really really bad. Yes, and there's no
Speaker 8: run game, there's no offensive line as protection, and that's
Speaker 8: a major issue now. I think they played mildly better
Speaker 8: in the run and protecting Jake Browning on Monday Night
Speaker 8: in Denver, but you know, it's still a long, long
Speaker 8: road to hope for those guys, So you know, I
Speaker 8: don't think it would make that big of a difference.
Speaker 8: I don't think Jake Browning played good on Monday Night.
Speaker 8: He missed multiple opportunities. And if he makes those plays,
Speaker 8: if he completes those passes, then maybe it is a
Speaker 8: different game. Maybe it is more competitive. Maybe just being
Speaker 8: on the field longer helps your defense out and it's
Speaker 8: more close to what we expected to see from the Bengals.
Speaker 8: I just don't know that it's that big of a
Speaker 8: difference right now. If you were to bring in a
Speaker 8: guy like Russell Wilson, I think the Bengals still.
Speaker 1: Believe in Jake Browning.
Speaker 8: Early on, he was just reckless with the ball, and
Speaker 8: he was a gunslinger, and he was just not at
Speaker 8: all what we saw from him in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 8: And it felt like last week against Denver, he tried
Speaker 8: to overcorrect on that and he was a little too
Speaker 8: safe and he didn't take the extra chance he didn't
Speaker 8: drive the ball down the field as much as he could.
Speaker 8: He threw balls way out of bounds instead of given
Speaker 8: his receivers a chance. And so he's got to find
Speaker 8: that middle ground of like, yes, I need to be aggressive,
Speaker 8: I have to trust my receivers, but also I can
Speaker 8: make dumb decisions that hurt the football team. Jake's gotta
Speaker 8: find the middle ground.
Speaker 9: Er.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem is is your your your comparative is
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, and Joe Burrow has covered a lot of
Speaker 1: the glaring weakness has now been exposed in the Jake
Speaker 1: Browning era when it comes to things like pass protection,
Speaker 1: getting the role making quick decisions doesn't offset the defense
Speaker 1: at all. But if you got Joe Burrow and he
Speaker 1: can throw a lot more dimes than Jake Browning can,
Speaker 1: maybe you could win a close game. Maybe and probably
Speaker 1: And we saw that, and that's the problem. You're comparing
Speaker 1: Jake Browning the big step down from Joe Burrow. I
Speaker 1: think if he had Russell Wilson in there, people would
Speaker 1: be going, well, how bad could Jake Browning be? That
Speaker 1: that's where we'd be, And it's it's very fickle.
Speaker 8: Yeah, without a doubt, And to me, it becomes less
Speaker 8: about comparing the two quarterbacks and more about saying, how
Speaker 8: can my head coach make an offense that is built
Speaker 8: around what Jake Browning does well. A perfect example is
Speaker 8: what we saw last night on Thursday Night Football. The
Speaker 8: way the San Francisco forty nine Ers in two games
Speaker 8: already this year. Because brock perty is dealing with turf
Speaker 8: tow that won't go away, Mac Jones has flawlessly operated
Speaker 8: the forty nine ers offense and led them to victories
Speaker 8: both on the road in tough environments, one in New Orleans,
Speaker 8: one in Los Angeles. Even though he's a lot of
Speaker 8: Niners fans, short week Thursday night Division rival, he's able
Speaker 8: to go out there and win a game. So to me,
Speaker 8: the focus now really shifts to Zach Taylor. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 8: you built this offense around Joe Burrow and Jamar Jason
Speaker 8: t Higgins. How do you build an offense that has
Speaker 8: a running game that is competitive or dependable or at
Speaker 8: least not getting negative yardage every time? How can you
Speaker 8: build an offense that helps Jake Browning? Now, if you remember,
Speaker 8: you know when Jake.
Speaker 1: Oh we lost as Austin, there is he back are
Speaker 1: you there? Oh, we have Austin Elmore issues. Maybe he's
Speaker 1: also simultaneously waiting for the sentencing here and to begin
Speaker 1: for one Sean Diddy, Brian Combs. Diddy or Didney is
Speaker 1: a big question to be answer today in court. We'll
Speaker 1: try to get Austin Onlmore back as he tackles the
Speaker 1: tough questions about Bengals football today. Yeah, I'm the mindset, Okay,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. People, I get Russell Wilson here. You think
Speaker 1: in a week or two he's gonna learn the playbook
Speaker 1: and be able to turn things around for this Bengal team.
Speaker 1: He may maybe it gets you maybe one game on
Speaker 1: a good day. But watched a little bit of Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson enough to know this isn't the same Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: as we saw winning Super Bowls and dominating the NFL
Speaker 1: just a few, well not only a few a number
Speaker 1: of years ago. Just doesn't work out. Is the math mathing?
Speaker 1: Probably not. I think Jake Brown is just going to
Speaker 1: be the guy until Joe Burrow comes back, unless some
Speaker 1: sort of manna from heaven comes flowing down and we
Speaker 1: get a quarterback in our lap. At that point, I'm
Speaker 1: My concern with that Jake Browning though, is you saw
Speaker 1: the frustration from someone like Jamar Chase and to a
Speaker 1: degree t Higgins, those guys starting can place and going, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run these routes and the ball's notable to
Speaker 1: find even to be in the same time zone as
Speaker 1: I am. What's the point How long before those guys
Speaker 1: start dogging it? I think that's a real concern. Austin
Speaker 1: is you know, if you want Browning, do you start
Speaker 1: do these guys start losing interests as well? And we
Speaker 1: saw this to some degree, I mean, turnovers and penalties,
Speaker 1: a lot of sloppy football. Coach said no more self
Speaker 1: inflicted errors. But I think when you have the crisis
Speaker 1: and both sides of the ball that you're facing right
Speaker 1: now in different degrees, I think the self inflicted errors
Speaker 1: come because guys just quit focusing. That's what it looked
Speaker 1: like to me. Any truth in that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how you wouldn't get
Speaker 8: that takeaway from watching them over the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 8: especially when one fumble or one penalty or a couple
Speaker 8: of penalties, and it felt like it just completely unraveled,
Speaker 8: like guys threw in.
Speaker 1: The towel, like they gave up. What's the point?
Speaker 8: You give Jamar Chase a lot of credit because Jamar
Speaker 8: has basically said, Hey, it's up to me to be
Speaker 8: a leader. I spoke to the team after the game
Speaker 8: on Monday. I understand I've got a captain's patch of
Speaker 8: my jersey, I've got a big contract, and I understand
Speaker 8: that I have to take a new leadership role with
Speaker 8: Joe out and with Sam Hubbard not here and Von
Speaker 8: Bell and all those guys out the door. So I
Speaker 8: give Jamar credit because he's saying and doing all the
Speaker 8: right things. He's not afraid to go up to Zach
Speaker 8: Taylor and say, hey, these are things we.
Speaker 1: Need to do better.
Speaker 8: He's not afraid to say that to the team either,
Speaker 8: and it means a lot when that's the guy who's
Speaker 8: doing it in Jamar Chase. So from the receiver specifically,
Speaker 8: I haven't seen that sort of disconnect yet, and I
Speaker 8: hope that we don't see it. But from some of
Speaker 8: the other guys, I could definitely see that it felt
Speaker 8: like there was a different level of effort than what
Speaker 8: we've seen when things have gone awry. In the past.
Speaker 8: I think that is probably the most alarming thing for
Speaker 8: Zach Taylor. But if Jamar Chase is the guy leading
Speaker 8: the charge to maybe nip that in the bud, that
Speaker 8: could be a good thing, especially if it happens early in.
Speaker 1: All right, AUNI other side of the ball here, much
Speaker 1: like people are clamoring for get rid of Jake Brown
Speaker 1: and get Russ Wilson, give me Kirk Cousins, give me
Speaker 1: Jameis Winstone of the Bengals want to give up draft
Speaker 1: capital for Kirk Cousins, who would be probably the tallest
Speaker 1: person in that group. On the other side of the ball,
Speaker 1: there are people going, well, you know, Christian Wilkins is available,
Speaker 1: you can get him on the d line. That may
Speaker 1: help with the run. That may help you. That's gonna
Speaker 1: help it a lot. Yeah, but there's a reason why
Speaker 1: the Raiders of all teams gave up on Christian Wilkins.
Speaker 1: Do you want that cancer in the locker room? No?
Speaker 8: I mean, there's nobody else has gotten him either. He's
Speaker 8: had an injury the reason why, and he's he lost
Speaker 8: a lot of money for stuff that hasn't come to
Speaker 8: light yet, which probably will one day. And and it'll
Speaker 8: make a lot of sense as to why he's not
Speaker 8: not on a football team right now. To be honest,
Speaker 8: though I haven't heard a lot of clamoring for people
Speaker 8: to go and improve the defense. I do think most
Speaker 8: people feel like it's a work in progress, and they
Speaker 8: have been put in some difficult situations with the amount
Speaker 8: of turnovers that the offense has had and the lack
Speaker 8: of moving the ball and possessing the ball that the
Speaker 8: offense has had. I still think there are pieces there
Speaker 8: that are flashing at times. I liked what I saw
Speaker 8: from Dax Hill on Monday. We'll see if Shamar Stewart
Speaker 8: comes back this week or next, but he looked good
Speaker 8: when he was healthy. I saw a little bit from
Speaker 8: Joseph Osai. Trey Hendrickson really hasn't done much, but there
Speaker 8: are still young players, young pieces that are developing. We'll
Speaker 8: see how it goes over the course of the next
Speaker 8: couple of weeks. With Al Golden, I always thought that
Speaker 8: the first month, month and a half the season was
Speaker 8: going to be a work in progress for them, while
Speaker 8: they get their legs under them and they figure out,
Speaker 8: you know, the different stuff that Al Golden can install
Speaker 8: and the different ways to attack a specific offense, So
Speaker 8: we'll see how it goes. I've not totally given up
Speaker 8: on the defense yet.
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, and on that Joe Burrow was covering for
Speaker 1: a lot of that until this defense could get better
Speaker 1: and get their legs under them. And now with Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow being gone, now they've kind of exposed to that degree.
Speaker 1: But there's some people here depending on to be pretty serviceable,
Speaker 1: if not good, this season much better. How disappointing that
Speaker 1: is Cam Taylor.
Speaker 8: Brittain, Yeah, I mean massive disappointment in every way shape
Speaker 8: and for him now, had the hamstring injury last week,
Speaker 8: didn't practice very much, had been sick all that, but
Speaker 8: it didn't matter. I mean, before he got hurt, he
Speaker 8: was not playing well. We've seen a stretch of really
Speaker 8: good play from Cam Taylor Bridge for like ten or
Speaker 8: twelve games in his career, and that's really it.
Speaker 1: It's been a mixed.
Speaker 8: Bag and mostly a bad bag of play after that.
Speaker 8: And so he's a massive disappointment to go along with
Speaker 8: a laundry list of massive disappointments and draft picks over
Speaker 8: the last couple of years. And what's most disappointing about
Speaker 8: Cam is that you know he's got the athleticism to
Speaker 8: be able to play in this league, and especially to
Speaker 8: be able to play the outside corner position, but his
Speaker 8: fundamentals do not look good. He appears to be stiff,
Speaker 8: he's slow at the top of routes, and teams target him,
Speaker 8: and when he's on the field, he's an absolute liability.
Speaker 8: And you saw that the way that the Broncos went
Speaker 8: after him basically in five snaps on Monday night, and
Speaker 8: it was so bad that the Bengals had.
Speaker 1: To pull Yeah, all right, I'm looking at the line
Speaker 1: here and Bengals ten point underdogs if Austin Elmore. Let's
Speaker 1: say that they get blown out and I'm talking another
Speaker 1: embarrassing loss to the Detroit Lions, which a lot of
Speaker 1: teams are going to get blown out of a lot
Speaker 1: of teams have been blown out Detroit. But I mean ugly, ugly, ugly.
Speaker 1: You now have a pattern here. Does that cost them
Speaker 1: on a job at this point? Should have cost them
Speaker 1: on a job at this point?
Speaker 8: At this point, I would say no, that I don't
Speaker 8: think it would. I would say that it probably should,
Speaker 8: but I don't know that it would.
Speaker 1: At this point.
Speaker 8: To me, the big game is going to be the
Speaker 8: Pittsburgh Steelers game. Now, the Bengals are going to be
Speaker 8: heavy underdogs in the next two this one against Detroit
Speaker 8: and then at green.
Speaker 1: Bay next week.
Speaker 8: Then they come back after green Bay short week Thursday
Speaker 8: night football at home, the white Bengal whiteout game against
Speaker 8: the Pittsburgh Steelers. If they are embarrassed against Pittsburgh in
Speaker 8: that game, a team that you're certainly on par with
Speaker 8: and are good enough to beat, and at home on
Speaker 8: a short week on a Thursday, then I would be
Speaker 8: surprised if there aren't heads rolling after that if they
Speaker 8: get embarrassed in that game as well.
Speaker 1: All right, real quick, because there is some bright light
Speaker 1: here as far as sports goes. And that's three and one.
Speaker 1: You see Brandon Soresby balled out against Kansas last week,
Speaker 1: Big twelve home opener for UC at Knipper tomorrow at
Speaker 1: noon here on seven hundred WW, number fourteen Iowa State
Speaker 1: comes into town. That's a number fourteen team, and Cincinnati
Speaker 1: really should be all over them because of the injuries. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right.
Speaker 8: I mean most of Iowa State's defense is injured. And
Speaker 8: you mentioned Brendan Sorosby is playing really good football, right, now.
Speaker 8: The receivers were the big talking point coming into this season,
Speaker 8: that the Bearcats got faster and stronger and bigger at
Speaker 8: their wide receiver position, and that the offense has certainly
Speaker 8: started to hum over the last couple of weeks, and
Speaker 8: so with so many injuries to Iowa State, even though
Speaker 8: they're ranked number fourteen in the country, the Bearcats are favored.
Speaker 1: At home and that is a big deal.
Speaker 8: And if Soworsby continues to play that he has, and
Speaker 8: most importantly, if the offensive line continues to play that
Speaker 8: they have, you want to talk about the exact opposite
Speaker 8: end of the spectrum of the Bengals. The Bearcats offensive
Speaker 8: line has allowed one sack all year, and the sack
Speaker 8: that they allowed really wasn't their fault. It was just
Speaker 8: a good play by the defense. So you know, if
Speaker 8: they're able to keep protecting Brendan Soarsby, if they got
Speaker 8: that good run pass mix, and even with sowres be
Speaker 8: getting involved in the run game like, the Bearcats have
Speaker 8: a legitimate shot to knock off number fourteen Iowa State here.
Speaker 8: It really get things moving in the right direction for scott'sadderfield.
Speaker 1: It should be a fun environment. I'm pick it up
Speaker 1: what you're putting down. You're saying, if you the Bengals,
Speaker 1: if you could take the Bearcats and have them play
Speaker 1: the Lions on Sunday, they'll lose, but they'll they'll perform
Speaker 1: better than the Bengals. Like I like that line. I
Speaker 1: think that Austin, Austin Elmore later today at noon from
Speaker 1: the Pallo Windows and Doors Broadcast Studio, where.
Speaker 8: We're gonna be at the Foundry home over in Oakley, Yes,
Speaker 8: and then tonight, Scott. Tonight, I'm gonna be in for
Speaker 8: Lance McAllister from six to nine on Sports Talk right
Speaker 8: there on this very station, seven hundred w WELW.
Speaker 1: You're gonna hear from.
Speaker 8: Brendan soaresby a conversation he had with Tony Pike. We'll
Speaker 8: also get into the Reds as we finally and officially
Speaker 8: bury them, and a whole bunch more coming up six
Speaker 8: to nine as well tonight.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, appreciate it, buddy, Thanks again, have a great
Speaker 1: show out there at the Foundry. Anyway, I got to
Speaker 1: get to a news update, Scott's loan show. Happy Friday.
Speaker 1: A lot to look forward to. Sports flies on Sunday.
Speaker 1: But you can be listening anyway, here on the Home
Speaker 1: of the Best Bengals coverage seven hundred w welw don't
Speaker 1: be back on said one hundred double l What are you?
Speaker 1: Eighteen veterans died by suicide America every single day. Seven
Speaker 1: of them are under the care of the VA, so
Speaker 1: they already getting care, which is a pretty frightening number.
Speaker 1: The numbers for women trending in the right direction, the
Speaker 1: numbers for men trending in the opposite direction. Not good.
Speaker 1: What's being done about this when it comes to veterans
Speaker 1: mental health services? And on the show again is Steve
Speaker 1: Belso is the executive director of Clairmont County Veteran Services Commission,
Speaker 1: and also Lisa Listen, who's suicide prevention counselor at Listen TVA. Welcome, good,
Speaker 1: how are you guys.
Speaker 10: It's great to have Lisa here with me today to
Speaker 10: tackle this all important subject.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty frightening because we have those stats. I mean,
Speaker 1: it wasn't twenty I think at one time, and only eighteen.
Speaker 1: But why are men going up and women going down?
Speaker 1: I guess at Lisa, that'd be a good.
Speaker 6: Question for Well, I think you have to remember there
Speaker 6: are more men in the military or that were served
Speaker 6: in the military than there are women, so of course
Speaker 6: that's going to raise the number somewhat. And you know,
Speaker 6: with men, we really know that their identity, especially in
Speaker 6: the military, and then transitioning home can be quite difficult
Speaker 6: because oftentimes they they see themselves as you know, the
Speaker 6: breadwinner and that you know, they need to be the
Speaker 6: one that's kind of leading the family and providing for
Speaker 6: their family. And when they transition out the military sometimes
Speaker 6: that's very, very difficult because they have a hard time
Speaker 6: transitioning between what I did in the military and how
Speaker 6: does that transpose to the community and what job I'm
Speaker 6: going to have there. So they really struggle with that.
Speaker 6: Plus they lose their connection with what they saw as
Speaker 6: their family of sorts in the military, and so then
Speaker 6: they become very disconnected. And then when they come home,
Speaker 6: sometimes their relationships have dissolved for one reason or another
Speaker 6: with some of their family members, whether a spouse or
Speaker 6: another family member, and so they're dealing with a lot
Speaker 6: of different stressors, not just what happened in the military,
Speaker 6: but then what was going on at home. Sometimes there's
Speaker 6: a disconnect there as well.
Speaker 1: Sure, Steve, you saw this first hand for all your
Speaker 1: years of the military as well. Is certainly PTSD has
Speaker 1: a lot to do this we'll talk about that. But
Speaker 1: also the fact that the real world doesn't run the
Speaker 1: way it does in the military. Now, there's a lot
Speaker 1: less accountability in the real world. That's a problem in it,
Speaker 1: but it is.
Speaker 11: It is, right.
Speaker 10: So there's there's a big divide between active duty service
Speaker 10: and there's an expectation that if Jones doesn't show up
Speaker 10: for formation today, somebody go find Jones. Yeah, if Jones
Speaker 10: doesn't show up for work, just don't log him in.
Speaker 10: He's going to get doctor daypey right right, get fired
Speaker 10: right right. So even still though my time, my thirty
Speaker 10: years on active duty, I've had a lot of friends
Speaker 10: commit suicide. It is a I don't want to say
Speaker 10: it's a byproduct of combat. For the most part, PTSD
Speaker 10: happens not just in combat. It could be a horrific accident,
Speaker 10: somebody saw rights, it's some other dynamic that's created in
Speaker 10: the brain that causes an extreme fear that they can't
Speaker 10: climb away from right. And I will tell you after
Speaker 10: even sending my marines into extensive counseling, even where they
Speaker 10: stay in for weeks in the counselings and I still
Speaker 10: end up losing a marine. Just drives you to the
Speaker 10: pit of your heart that you could not get ahead
Speaker 10: of them and what they're struggling with.
Speaker 1: A part of this too, I guess you call it
Speaker 1: the deadly gap, right, Steve, is that you have the
Speaker 1: time where you're listed, you're a military, you get services
Speaker 1: all around your your overwhelmed with that stuff. If you
Speaker 1: did something's wrong, you gonna go okay by the time
Speaker 1: you you wind up being discharged, not really discharged, and
Speaker 1: by the time your VA benefits and you figure all
Speaker 1: that stuff out. There's a gap there. That's also huge
Speaker 1: deal is because we lose so many veterans because they
Speaker 1: don't know what to do. They're not being told what
Speaker 1: to do. That's part of that discan between transition military
Speaker 1: and the real world.
Speaker 10: There is so on a military just say we're talking
Speaker 10: about there is a daily I've got eyes on we
Speaker 10: call it, right, I've got eyes on Jones, I've got
Speaker 10: eyes on Smith, I've got eyes on Johnson.
Speaker 1: There's a hierarchy of command. You guys are working out
Speaker 1: for the.
Speaker 10: But there's also in the family set. If I came
Speaker 10: to work at seven hundred every day. I know Scott
Speaker 10: Sloan and his attitude every day. But the minute Scott
Speaker 10: Sloane starts hiding back here in his office, Sloaney doesn't
Speaker 10: come out and get coffee. Sloaney's not laughing with us
Speaker 10: in his usual character. I'm going something's changed about Sloaney.
Speaker 10: Let me go tap Sloani. What's going on, brother?
Speaker 1: Right right?
Speaker 4: And that's the way it works.
Speaker 10: In the military, we know our teams and we know
Speaker 10: their conduct, we know their attitude. So when things start
Speaker 10: to shift, it's an immediate comere. What's going on right right?
Speaker 10: And in the civilian world, I now transition back to
Speaker 10: being a civilian. There's nobody with eyes on me every
Speaker 10: day except my family, and sometimes the family's intimidated to
Speaker 10: ask Steve what's going on?
Speaker 2: Right? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I get that. I get that whole thing, all right,
Speaker 1: So so Steve Belso back to Lisa. Listen, when when
Speaker 1: you see someone at the VA, who's going to typically
Speaker 1: who presents what are the what are the symptoms? Why
Speaker 1: are they there?
Speaker 6: Well, it can be a number of different symptoms, but
Speaker 6: most often somebody will come in and they might be expressing,
Speaker 6: you know, I feel really hopeless about my situation in life,
Speaker 6: or they might come out and say, hey, I'm I'm
Speaker 6: having suicidal thoughts, and then we work to really help
Speaker 6: that veteran and help them in areas that they need.
Speaker 6: So what it is, what is it that is uh
Speaker 6: they are struggling with. It could be addiction, which is
Speaker 6: a huge risk factor for veterans and you know people
Speaker 6: in the general population, but if they're having trouble with
Speaker 6: some type of addiction, oftentimes they don't know what the
Speaker 6: services are that are available to them. And once we
Speaker 6: tell them, hey, we have methodone treatment available, we have inpatient,
Speaker 6: we have residential treatment that we can help you with
Speaker 6: your addiction. Or it could be that they're having relationship issues,
Speaker 6: so it could be with a spouse and so we
Speaker 6: will get them engaged in that type of care. Or
Speaker 6: it could be that they really do need to be
Speaker 6: admitted to the hospital, to our inpatient psychiatric unit just
Speaker 6: to get a break, to actually be able to focus
Speaker 6: on what are the issues going on, and then we
Speaker 6: can help them and building the supports for them. So
Speaker 6: they present in a number of different ways. What's really
Speaker 6: awesome about the VA is we have open access, which
Speaker 6: means that you can walk in to any clinic and say, hey,
Speaker 6: I'm really struggling, I need to talk to someone, or
Speaker 6: I'm having suicidal thoughts, and we'll help you with whatever
Speaker 6: clinic you're in. It doesn't matter what clinic you're in.
Speaker 6: You can get open access where a counselor or a
Speaker 6: social worker psychiatrist will meet with you and work with
Speaker 6: you on whatever the problem is.
Speaker 4: All right, So let's pull that apart a little bit slowly.
Speaker 10: There's even where recently, maybe what year and a half,
Speaker 10: two years ago, the Compact Act was approved, and what
Speaker 10: the Compact Deck did is remove some veterans have a
Speaker 10: stigma with the VA. But it removed that stigma and
Speaker 10: stead that veteran can go to any hospital or physician
Speaker 10: to receive that care good and receive up to ninety
Speaker 10: days of care. So it's not just hey we're gonna
Speaker 10: take you down to the VA, right, Mom or dad,
Speaker 10: you can take your son or daughter to try Health
Speaker 10: Sat Elizabeth Christ Hospital, right, and it's get with your
Speaker 10: service or your county service officer.
Speaker 4: We file the paperwork. There's ninety days of support for
Speaker 4: your loved one.
Speaker 1: Okay, good to know. Again, it's just Steve Belso from
Speaker 1: Climat County Veteran Service Commission and Lisa Listen and she's
Speaker 1: a suicide prevention coordinator at the sin CVA, talking about
Speaker 1: veterans suicide rate and what can be done. And certainly
Speaker 1: a lot has been put into making sure that we're
Speaker 1: getting the health care for our veterans. That's eemingly possible.
Speaker 1: But for a family member, Lisa, that that's gonna be
Speaker 1: the hardest part is identifying the problem, but getting is,
Speaker 1: to Steve's point, getting them the care they need because
Speaker 1: you tend to be a little bit stubborn, right, you know,
Speaker 1: if someone else needs to care more than I do,
Speaker 1: I don't need it. I'm fined. How do you do that?
Speaker 6: So there's a couple of things to remember as a
Speaker 6: family member. First of all, we want to educate family
Speaker 6: members on what are the warning signs so they actually
Speaker 6: are aware that if a person is expressing I feel
Speaker 6: hopeless or I feel like there's no way out, they
Speaker 6: might be escalating their alcohol or drug use, they might
Speaker 6: be expressing lots of anxiety or rage and anger. Those
Speaker 6: can all be warning signs. So the first step is
Speaker 6: really what we have now as a public health strategy
Speaker 6: where we want to educate everyone in the community to
Speaker 6: try to get upstream with the veteran, so to notice
Speaker 6: those warning signs before something happens. Unfortunately, for many years,
Speaker 6: you know, it was until we knew about the crisis
Speaker 6: and now we're ready to help. But if we can
Speaker 6: educate our community to say, hey, here are the issues,
Speaker 6: here are the warning signs, and then we can help
Speaker 6: that person. So that's the first thing. The second thing
Speaker 6: is to let the family members know that they have
Speaker 6: twenty four hours support. If they believe that their veteran
Speaker 6: is struggling, they're in a suicidal crisis, they can call
Speaker 6: the Veteran's Crisis Line, which is the nine eight eight,
Speaker 6: and then you press one of your veteran or family
Speaker 6: member or a veteran. It's free and you don't then
Speaker 6: have to be the evaluator. You don't have to try
Speaker 6: to decide this is should I be worried about this
Speaker 6: or not. You can talk to the responder and most
Speaker 6: often the responder will say, hey, can we talk to
Speaker 6: the veteran, and then they'll do the immediate response and
Speaker 6: help the veteran then get to where they need to
Speaker 6: be and what's really nice about nine eight eight Press
Speaker 6: one is then if the veteran agrees, we then are
Speaker 6: received that phone number in that veteran's name, and at
Speaker 6: the Cincinnati VA we call that veteran within twenty four
Speaker 6: hours and we continue to help them to make sure
Speaker 6: that they're getting the services they need and get them
Speaker 6: engaged in the care they need.
Speaker 1: All right, then it all starts with a call to
Speaker 1: your county Veteran Services Commission like you and Clairemont County,
Speaker 1: Steve Belso and your team ready to go. You put
Speaker 1: her in touch with folks like Lisa and get them
Speaker 1: the help they need. But there shouldn't be a stigma
Speaker 1: of shame. I do something in my show is called
Speaker 1: Mental Health Monday. Every Monday we do a segment with
Speaker 1: a licensed mental health therapist and she's wonderful. We get
Speaker 1: a lot of input, people of questions, and there's still
Speaker 1: a stigma involved with us. I would imagine it's probably
Speaker 1: more so true in the military than anywhere.
Speaker 4: Absolutely there is there is one. We have to break
Speaker 4: this down to the common denominator.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 10: We tend to talk about suicide and facets, right and
Speaker 10: how this looks, But the fact is anywhere in life.
Speaker 10: Life wants to grow, Life wants to live. I cut
Speaker 10: down a tree last week. It's already setting up new shoots. Right,
Speaker 10: Wait a minute, I cut the tree down. It is
Speaker 10: in the design the DNA of life on this earth
Speaker 10: to live. And if somebody decides they want to die,
Speaker 10: it's a sickness, it's a disease.
Speaker 4: Something has happened.
Speaker 10: It is not a quitter mentality that people tend to
Speaker 10: tagline it with because they don't understand.
Speaker 4: And it happens on active duty. Oh, he's just a quitter.
Speaker 10: No, something broke right, It is not natural for somebody
Speaker 10: to want to die. So that's number one two nine
Speaker 10: eight eight. Press one is step one. If you can
Speaker 10: get your veteran to talk to another veteran a nine
Speaker 10: eight eight, and then press one is a veteran on
Speaker 10: the other side of the line, start the initial conversation.
Speaker 4: That is not the end conversation.
Speaker 10: It needs to carry on to a licensed physician healthcare
Speaker 10: in the mental health side that can sit with Johnson
Speaker 10: Jones Smith and start pulling it back because you need
Speaker 10: to know what the very base layer of the issue is.
Speaker 10: A lot of times there's extra brainious things going on
Speaker 10: the attitude. I've become still, I've become reclues, but still
Speaker 10: yet there's something else deeper and a lot of For men,
Speaker 10: they don't want to give that up because they don't
Speaker 10: want to seem weak.
Speaker 1: Which is probably why you see higher suicide rates per
Speaker 1: capita in men than women, because women are we'll talk,
Speaker 1: we'll open Guys we shut up. We want to talk
Speaker 1: about sports and yeah, everything's fine, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: Leave me alone.
Speaker 4: I'm tough. Leave me alone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I self medicate more than anyone else.
Speaker 10: Well, which is why Lisa is talking about all of
Speaker 10: the drugs. The addictions start because of what the very
Speaker 10: based foundation is that's going on with the suicidal ideations.
Speaker 4: Now I'm going to start self medicating.
Speaker 1: We also have learned a lot when it comes to
Speaker 1: suicide prevention and who is inclined to were predisposed to
Speaker 1: be suicidal? Right, So there's a reach VET program I
Speaker 1: think is what you call it, And that's all it's AI.
Speaker 1: It's predictive modeling and you can predict who's more like
Speaker 1: I guarantee it, but more likely to be suicidal or
Speaker 1: commit suicide than other members. How's that work?
Speaker 6: Right? So? Yeah, I'm actually the Reach VET program coordinator
Speaker 6: as well, and you're right. It is predictive modeling. And
Speaker 6: what they do is they pull from the veterans charts
Speaker 6: and they have like four hundred different risk factors that
Speaker 6: could put that person at risk for suicide, and then
Speaker 6: they take the top one percent in the facility that
Speaker 6: meet that criteria. Those names are sent to me and
Speaker 6: then I'd either contact them or if they have a
Speaker 6: provider already, the provider contacts them and tries to get
Speaker 6: them engaged in care. So it's another way to figure out, Okay,
Speaker 6: how can we reach veterans who maybe we wouldn't know
Speaker 6: about because they didn't say they were suicidal, but there
Speaker 6: were all these risk factors.
Speaker 1: How do you have that conversation with the VET Because
Speaker 1: all of a sudden my phone rings, it's you and Lisa.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, we think you know you're suicidal. I am,
Speaker 1: that's news to me. How do you brotech conversation?
Speaker 6: You're right, I do call them and I explain to
Speaker 6: them what this program really is. That what we're trying
Speaker 6: to do is look at what are all your risk factors?
Speaker 6: So when you go to the doctor, right, they might
Speaker 6: say you are at risk for a heart attack. Does
Speaker 6: it mean you're going to have art attack? No, but
Speaker 6: here are some signs that tell us if you keep
Speaker 6: eating the way you're eating right, you're probably going to
Speaker 6: have a heart attack. So we work with them in
Speaker 6: that way. I talk to them about that and I
Speaker 6: compare it to any other risk factor for different things,
Speaker 6: and then I explain to them, so what I want
Speaker 6: to check in with you about is have you been
Speaker 6: having any suicidal thoughts? And then that way, I can,
Speaker 6: you know, start the conversation about are you at risk?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 6: Sometimes they say, well, now I'm not suicidal, that's great.
Speaker 6: Is there anything else we can do that would be
Speaker 6: helpful to you? So though even though they are not suicidal, again,
Speaker 6: this is getting more upstream, right, so we're saying, okay,
Speaker 6: but we still see these risk factors. Are there things
Speaker 6: going on in your life that we might be able
Speaker 6: to help you with?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 6: And so they might share that.
Speaker 1: Are they pretty responsive?
Speaker 11: Usually?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Usually they really appreciate that somebody is checking in
Speaker 6: to see how they're doing.
Speaker 1: If you have somebody on your side, right.
Speaker 6: That somebody's kind of looking out for me, you know,
Speaker 6: and are noticing things that maybe I don't even notice myself,
Speaker 6: or I might think, well, I shouldn't say anything because
Speaker 6: you know, I'm strong and I shouldn't say that I'm
Speaker 6: having a problem with this area. So it really normalizes in
Speaker 6: a way. Hey, lots of people have suicidal thoughts. Lots
Speaker 6: of people go under a tremendous amount of stress and
Speaker 6: sometimes they have suicidal thoughts, and we want to be
Speaker 6: able to help you with that. So yeah, it's been
Speaker 6: it's been a wonderful program.
Speaker 1: See belso with the Claremont County Veteran Services Commission. So
Speaker 1: if someone's a veteran family member of a veteran and
Speaker 1: maybe you think there's something going on here you need help,
Speaker 1: just reach out to you guys in Claremont County or
Speaker 1: whatever county it is you're listening in, and we get
Speaker 1: the same level of help in all the counties or
Speaker 1: just years.
Speaker 10: That is, that is one of two, right, we can
Speaker 10: help stare in the right direction. Yes, that is every
Speaker 10: county in Ohio. The fastest way is press one. Got it,
Speaker 10: it's easy, it's sticky, it's it's it's not a ten
Speaker 10: digit number and you're trying to Oh my gosh, I
Speaker 10: missed it nine eight eight. If a civilian stop there,
Speaker 10: there's someone there to talk to you. If you're a veteran,
Speaker 10: it will tell you in the voice recording press one
Speaker 10: and that route you to another veteran that's on the
Speaker 10: other side of the outstanding.
Speaker 4: It's a great program.
Speaker 10: Now let's let's be honest, though, Sony, all of this programming,
Speaker 10: we still don't have the cure all for suicide. Numbers
Speaker 10: are going down phenomenal. In Claremont County. My numbers have risen,
Speaker 10: though nationally we're going down. So sometimes we have to
Speaker 10: look for factors in the community, why is this happening
Speaker 10: in my county? But then even on active duty setting marines,
Speaker 10: they're way for two three weeks constant care under a
Speaker 10: physician's care, and then released and then it's they start
Speaker 10: unspooling again.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 10: There are some horrific scenes that the military members have
Speaker 10: to go through. That's just war, and sometimes you can't
Speaker 10: get ahead of them. And they're still One of my
Speaker 10: marines called in and he's telling his buddies goodbye after
Speaker 10: spending over probably two months at the healthcare in house
Speaker 10: in the hospital, and the senior leader says, hang on
Speaker 10: I'm going to get this R major on the phone.
Speaker 10: He says, no, he'll stop me, and then hung up
Speaker 10: the phone. Oh god, they are determined, right, It's just
Speaker 10: the weight becomes so heavy and so really it's early
Speaker 10: identification and getting ahead of this so you can move
Speaker 10: it away before it's a millstone where they believe it
Speaker 10: cannot be right.
Speaker 1: Something like forty percent of the veterans comming EXSUTI that
Speaker 1: under care of a VA physician, and that's that's frightening.
Speaker 1: But again nine eight eight plus one is the number
Speaker 1: regardless of where you are. But again it's Steve Belso,
Speaker 1: Claremont County Veteran Service Commission on lease a listed of
Speaker 1: course of the TV. Thanks so much for this uh
Speaker 1: and update and and just getting the word out to
Speaker 1: help people. Thank I appreciate it. Thank you, thanks for
Speaker 1: having us.
Speaker 4: So if you're a veteran listening, your life matters, it
Speaker 4: does does.
Speaker 1: Thanks again, appreciate you. Scott's Loan Show continues seven hundred
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Speaker 1: Local Loop with Ali Martin on seven hundred.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes we are, but yes we're bad. I'm back.
Speaker 1: Feel here, feel old Scooter, Scott.
Speaker 11: I'm calling you, Scooter.
Speaker 1: Scott, scooter and crutches. I got it all going on.
Speaker 11: You shoulder your legs, man, aren't you? Okay? That is
Speaker 11: the question.
Speaker 1: Well, when you get to my advanced stage, after all
Speaker 1: the athletic stuff you've done in your life, I'm going
Speaker 1: to tell you something. It gets fun. You're just so
Speaker 1: all the osteothritis stuff just yeah, when you get in
Speaker 1: the wrong side of fifty, it's it all starts on.
Speaker 1: But you know what far worse things I could have.
Speaker 1: I'm blessed.
Speaker 11: Are you feeling better though?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, making small improvement stuff like that. So foot still
Speaker 1: hurts a little bit, but I've got my giant protective
Speaker 1: buddhan and my crutches. Some hobbling all over.
Speaker 9: Do you feel like you're getting pity when you're walking
Speaker 9: around and hobbling around?
Speaker 11: Like do people actually pay attention to you? And like, oh,
Speaker 11: let's open the.
Speaker 1: Door around here? Are you kidding?
Speaker 12: Okay, I'm just curious. Maybe there could be something around here,
Speaker 12: it's what's your problem? They're gonna catch what I have. Like,
Speaker 12: it's not communical bullets.
Speaker 11: This is bad. This just makes you grundier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's all good though.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I come back not only to you, but a
Speaker 1: very special guest.
Speaker 9: Yes, Rogers brought into special guest, washed up meteorologist.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: You might have heard his voice before on the station
Speaker 9: several times, whether it's talking about the weather or talking
Speaker 9: about whiskey.
Speaker 11: Friend Brandon about that this battery died this morning. So
Speaker 11: part of the reason.
Speaker 1: Why, Okay, I thought there was a euphemism for something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a doctor gets just a medicine from that.
Speaker 1: But happy to be here. Forecast looks good this weekend.
Speaker 11: Huh.
Speaker 1: Sure doesn't here about that anymore now. So yeah, you
Speaker 1: you and I've had you on before in the past
Speaker 1: and talking about where where weather intercedes with bourbon so
Speaker 1: dusk whiskey weather, and people go, how the hell.
Speaker 13: Has that come together? They're parallel, right. Without the weather,
Speaker 13: you don't have the whiskey. If you don't have that
Speaker 13: heat cycling, you don't have the coloring of the whiskey,
Speaker 13: you don't have the aging of the whiskey.
Speaker 1: It's just clear liquid in a barrel. Is that why
Speaker 1: they don't make whiskey in Arizona? They do make it,
Speaker 1: it's just not how good the weather never changes there
Speaker 1: like San Diego. It's always a contro to staff for sure.
Speaker 1: I suppose yeh. It's hot and up and down.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's what makes it good the state.
Speaker 1: So the higher the greater temperature disparity in weather cycles,
Speaker 1: the better the bourbon, you would think. So not always.
Speaker 13: It's there's a whole lot of different factors, but the
Speaker 13: weather does have a big impact in it, like that
Speaker 13: with the the I call it heat cycle. Some people
Speaker 13: will just call it heat seasons. But the more in
Speaker 13: and out of the barrel that you can get between
Speaker 13: the heat and cold cycles, the better the whiskey.
Speaker 1: I love the science of that too. That's just fascinating
Speaker 1: to me. Like you, Jefferson's ocean is gimmicky, but you
Speaker 1: think about it like that's really interesting because it's traveling
Speaker 1: in a boat around the words, getting sloshed around for
Speaker 1: a year, and it's going to different climates and stuff
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you're not only adding the climate element, you're also
Speaker 9: adding the physical movement.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so it's slashing stuff around and there, just like.
Speaker 13: That Metallica one where they're doing that music. They're playing
Speaker 13: music through the entire ricout to let the vibrations create
Speaker 13: the issues in the barrels that bring the whiskey in.
Speaker 1: And out right. That could be a gimmick too.
Speaker 9: But yeah, the Metallica whiskey was not good, respectfully on marketing.
Speaker 1: She said it.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was not good.
Speaker 9: Respect You missed out because you were I think you
Speaker 9: were undergoing surgery at that time. We were at Kentucky
Speaker 9: Bourbon Festival too. I had a chance. I actually have
Speaker 9: it on my list. Here is a couple whiskey whiskey
Speaker 9: picks of the week.
Speaker 11: Okay, I guess we can just start.
Speaker 1: Why don't we start with that.
Speaker 11: Let's start with that.
Speaker 1: Let's jump right so again Zally Martin local Loop brandes
Speaker 1: spinners here and does whiskey Weather and I've talked about
Speaker 1: everything to eat, se do, and especially drink this weekend
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. Believe me, if you're going down to the
Speaker 1: Bengals game, you need to start drinking now.
Speaker 11: Right now.
Speaker 9: And if you want to pick up a bottle of
Speaker 9: something a little different, this is my whiskey pick of
Speaker 9: the week. It's Burton James. Have you ever heard of
Speaker 9: Burton James.
Speaker 1: I think there's like a bass player for like deep purple,
Speaker 1: wasn't it.
Speaker 9: Now he did play baseball, all right, not a bass player.
Speaker 9: So down at Kentucky Bourbon Festival, which happens in Bartstown
Speaker 9: every year, really fun time. I mean dozens and dozens
Speaker 9: of distilleries.
Speaker 11: You have five sixty five.
Speaker 9: You have your big distilleries, but then you also have
Speaker 9: your fun little craft distilleries and that's usually where those
Speaker 9: hidden gems are. And one of the best things do
Speaker 9: is try to, you know, go around talk to the
Speaker 9: owners and I hopefully maybe find a pick that you
Speaker 9: would be pleasantly surprised. Okay, this one out of came
Speaker 9: out of left field, U pun intended. Is Burton James,
Speaker 9: as I said, And the foundation in the background of
Speaker 9: this is it's based off of a great grandfather, but
Speaker 9: more importantly at professional baseball player named Burton James, and
Speaker 9: the whole brand around it is based on baseball.
Speaker 11: So the branding, the labeling, it's cool.
Speaker 9: The labeling itself has you know that old school basically
Speaker 9: like a Wrigleyville scoreboard.
Speaker 1: Yes, almost like a newspaper.
Speaker 9: Cool, all right, really cool, And they have a weeded,
Speaker 9: a ten year weeded, which I was so pleasantly surprised about.
Speaker 11: They have two, they have a one o seven and
Speaker 11: they have one eleven.
Speaker 9: I walked away with the one oh seven and I
Speaker 9: was not expecting I wasn't expecting anything from it, but
Speaker 9: it was I one came out of left field. And
Speaker 9: if you have a chance to check it out, it's
Speaker 9: called Burton James b U R T O N James.
Speaker 1: All right, so people here wheeded bourbon and they think
Speaker 1: I was wheat.
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's one of the ingredients. So in order for
Speaker 13: it to a just all wheat, no, in order to
Speaker 13: be awful. In order for it to be a bourbon,
Speaker 13: it has to be at least fifty one percent corn.
Speaker 13: So when they say it's a weeded bourbon, it's the
Speaker 13: second highest ingredient within that mash bill. So if it's
Speaker 13: fifty one percent corn, you maybe have forty five percent wheat,
Speaker 13: and then the rest is made up of malted barley
Speaker 13: or whatever kind of grain. Usually they deal with multed barley.
Speaker 13: I think this one is fifty one percent corner wheat,
Speaker 13: four percent multed barley.
Speaker 1: All right, for those who don't know, that does what
Speaker 1: to the play the flavor of profile wheat sweet rye
Speaker 1: a little spicy.
Speaker 11: So yeah, this is a little bit more in the
Speaker 11: sweeter end.
Speaker 9: I think we'd say the one O seven, the one
Speaker 9: that I walked away with has I mean you've tasted
Speaker 9: as well, Brandon, but I feel like it has almost
Speaker 9: like a marshmallowy, creamy tone to it. And then we
Speaker 9: both were discussing it almost kind of also has it
Speaker 9: starts with a little bit of that like McDonald's apple
Speaker 9: apple pie crust.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, it's really it's quite lovely.
Speaker 1: Why don't they start making their shakes for that?
Speaker 12: Yeah, if it's that's the trick, it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work.
Speaker 11: All right.
Speaker 1: So you're a little little about bourbon today as well.
Speaker 1: What was going on?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 9: Well, the Donna Schwaben october Fest is happening because you
Speaker 9: also were out of remission. You were out for the
Speaker 9: real October Fest. I was so this weekend and you
Speaker 9: missed it too. We did participate in the g.
Speaker 1: Gamesour couple over here.
Speaker 9: Yeow, the barrel rock steinhoisting racing.
Speaker 11: He came in first.
Speaker 1: I won the competition for second year in a row.
Speaker 1: I know about that.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 12: The lats on this guy, yo, you smoked everyone on
Speaker 12: October five.
Speaker 1: I al smoked my thumb. I thought I broke my
Speaker 1: thumb in the first race. Neither one of you has
Speaker 1: a slang or some sort of apparatus on like I do.
Speaker 1: So that's good.
Speaker 11: That's good.
Speaker 9: That's a good start. I thought you might have been
Speaker 9: walking away with a cast that day though.
Speaker 1: I literally thought I broke my th if I came
Speaker 1: in here and you were wearing like a sling and
Speaker 1: because you you injured it in October cast, how'd you
Speaker 1: break your thumb? I rolling a barrel? I'm just stupid.
Speaker 1: You on the other hand's like, wait, doing what rolling
Speaker 1: the barrel? And was the hold the beer mug for
Speaker 1: an hour?
Speaker 11: Racing against all the other local journalists.
Speaker 1: Got my stein? Yeah, the athleticism, journalism whatever it was?
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, so he won that.
Speaker 9: I came in second for the stein hoisting race, quite
Speaker 9: proud of myself.
Speaker 11: There and thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 9: Practice, and we might as well just do it again because,
Speaker 9: as I said, the Donna Schwab in October Fest, the
Speaker 9: thirty third anniversary and this is the one over in
Speaker 9: Cole Rain Township. It's happening today, tomorrow and Sunday. Pretty
Speaker 9: much an old day thing. Admissions five bucks, kids are free.
Speaker 9: There are shuttles that you know, we'll take it from
Speaker 9: Spot A to Spot B. And this is this is
Speaker 9: the only October Fest that's actually in October.
Speaker 11: Yeah, ground the most authentic because of it.
Speaker 1: I think the fact that you had the grounds that
Speaker 1: are dedicated to that annual event. Yeah, that's what it's
Speaker 1: there for in Cold Race.
Speaker 9: Every single year. The thirty third. So here we go
Speaker 9: and over thirty five beers on draft. So of course
Speaker 9: you're gonna have your class at october Fest beers. You're
Speaker 9: half of Vison and you'll have a hofsprow House and
Speaker 9: some of those big names there.
Speaker 1: Great weather for it too, Oh perfect, very perfect. Right,
Speaker 1: that's what they tell me. All the food.
Speaker 11: Is the guy who hasn't looked at them.
Speaker 1: There was a cue for the guy for them with
Speaker 1: a meteorology degree and certificates to come in and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: looks nice.
Speaker 13: I retired on the twenty seven of the main I
Speaker 13: think I've looked at the weather twice.
Speaker 11: Yeah, what I say is useless now yeah, I have
Speaker 11: absolutely not.
Speaker 13: I can give you that forecast, not the forecast. Oh
Speaker 13: very clever.
Speaker 1: All right. So anyway, that's going on all this weekend.
Speaker 9: This is happening, and you can if you do want
Speaker 9: to participate in any sort of competition, Brandon, this might
Speaker 9: be your thing. You could do a log song contest
Speaker 9: because they're going to have that there as part of
Speaker 9: their entertainment.
Speaker 1: So is that one that the log is like up
Speaker 1: in the air and you got to cut it down
Speaker 1: and let it fall. Have you seen those? No, you
Speaker 1: don't need to there's no climent. They've got to cut
Speaker 1: it down and it's got to fall.
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, yeah. I thought was like, just how fast
Speaker 13: you can cut through the tree?
Speaker 1: You ever watch that on like ESPN eight on THEO
Speaker 1: or something like that, where that's the the it's stres incredible,
Speaker 1: like the steel chainsaw.
Speaker 11: Let's move a plane because you're like what.
Speaker 1: No, No, they climb. No, literally, the climb like a
Speaker 1: telephone pole. You got to cut the in certain sections.
Speaker 11: But they always do.
Speaker 9: What I'm saying is like they just do the weirdest competitions.
Speaker 1: I watch it and go I've not sit there for
Speaker 1: like a good half hour watching it. They're actually pretty
Speaker 1: cool waiting for football or one of those watching You're
Speaker 1: still treating.
Speaker 12: Sucked down a hole watching this stuff and go and
Speaker 12: then my mind goes, so people are training for this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cornhole is now. So we were at Cartridge Brewing.
Speaker 1: This is a while ago, and I must have been
Speaker 1: like cornhole league night. So they have indoor corn hoole
Speaker 1: there and they're dudes in jerseys and one dude rolls
Speaker 1: in and I'm not kidding you, like you know how
Speaker 1: the howlers have like three a bag with the three bulls.
Speaker 1: He has a suitcase like it's corn hole. He's got
Speaker 1: the towing it's got wheels on it. Like, what what
Speaker 1: is it bringing in your cornhole bag?
Speaker 13: So when you say uniform, walk in like a NASCAR driver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thank you. Yes. I don't know if there
Speaker 1: were any good but how many bags do you bring?
Speaker 1: Like what what's the strategy with your carnhole bag?
Speaker 9: I don't know, pop for holy crap, colonels.
Speaker 1: And corner against the or hole redenbacker team. Yeah bad?
Speaker 1: You have three year olds have personal trainers for you know,
Speaker 1: for t ball and stuff like that. Just to get
Speaker 1: a little over the top and you're not a professional.
Speaker 9: But these days you could make money off of I
Speaker 9: had an uber the other day where he was a
Speaker 9: professional bowler and he does it most of the year.
Speaker 11: I'm like, good for you.
Speaker 1: If you can make money off of absolutely at a
Speaker 1: bar on a Wednesday night, people are making money off
Speaker 1: playing cornhole. But you know, you got aspire to something.
Speaker 1: God bless you. It is.
Speaker 9: What else happened anyway, Well, let's talk about a fault
Speaker 9: and yards because we're talking about the weather and how
Speaker 9: nice it is with it being I personally think the
Speaker 9: best coffee shop in town for the fall. Why because
Speaker 9: not only it has this like yes, this is the
Speaker 9: coffee grape, but it has this incredible patio where there's
Speaker 9: an awning, there's a hangover, and then you can have
Speaker 9: there's fans and you can.
Speaker 11: Get a hangover to wish. We will get you.
Speaker 9: They have huge TVs where you can watch any sports
Speaker 9: that you want. Because we're speaking from experience, because we
Speaker 9: have a Cubs fan sitting right next to.
Speaker 1: Us were we watched the game last night.
Speaker 11: Oh my gosh, but they have probably the.
Speaker 1: Best Last night, Yeah, you want.
Speaker 11: To talk about you were stressed. I was stressed out
Speaker 11: watching you.
Speaker 1: Was that a strike was terrible? Yeah, you were stressing.
Speaker 1: I cannot be called that a strike.
Speaker 11: Do you stress out, Scott when you watch games? Do
Speaker 11: you pace?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, but I roll? Do you get like the
Speaker 1: scooter on the setting to go crawling? Crawling Lunnie.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 9: But Fulton Yards it's off of Riverside Dry which I
Speaker 9: did not mention, more like right on the river on.
Speaker 11: The east side.
Speaker 9: And it's a killer coffee shop, as I said, but
Speaker 9: also is a great bar and incredible espresso martinis. They're
Speaker 9: doing this pumpkin spice espresso martini right now. But they
Speaker 9: also have a full lineup of fall cocktails that are incredible.
Speaker 9: Everything from a spiced apple old fashion. We had that yesterday,
Speaker 9: so good autumn in New York. It's Mezcal lemon simple
Speaker 9: syrup hell fire bidders floated with a little red wine
Speaker 9: and then they do a chill shy teeny So it's
Speaker 9: Molly Wollman Cincinnati gin from Northern Row lemon mint and
Speaker 9: then chai.
Speaker 11: For the syrup.
Speaker 9: It is so good, So best fall cocktail lineup that
Speaker 9: I've seen in a while.
Speaker 11: And they do trivia on.
Speaker 9: Thuse days and it's off of Riverside Drive more on
Speaker 9: the east side, so by Eli's Barbecue, and then right
Speaker 9: next door is a place called high Mark.
Speaker 11: Also really really good if you're looking for.
Speaker 1: It's like a high melt. Is that what they called it?
Speaker 11: High melt?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 11: And killer good Yeah, good wing.
Speaker 1: Really good good good shells of soccer for an espresso
Speaker 1: martini and a pumpkin spice espresso martini sheeting.
Speaker 13: The espresso like some of these places, like we've gottenness
Speaker 13: martini in there, but like espresso.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like this they're a coffee shop.
Speaker 11: First.
Speaker 1: Better if you're gonna have your coffee shop, you better
Speaker 1: have a good espresso martini if you're doing that.
Speaker 9: And also understanding the difference between the Bailey's and Kolula ratio,
Speaker 9: because here's the thing, as I've realized.
Speaker 11: I'm a Colulah girly, not a baby like the ba.
Speaker 9: Splash because the Bailey's is what makes it extra creamy.
Speaker 1: Bailey's out of a shoe.
Speaker 11: Have you seen Bailey's really close?
Speaker 1: I feel like there's some inside weird relationships stuff going on.
Speaker 11: Have you ever seen that bit I have?
Speaker 1: When we're done, look up, check that out. And we
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