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Speaker 1: them Bearcats, Dan Hord, Well, let's we should just talk

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Speaker 2: What do you think aren't prepared to discuss anything you

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Speaker 2: want to discuss, Floni. The last time we did one

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Speaker 2: They've got a chance to pop into the top twenty

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Speaker 2: five if they can beat Iowa State tomorrow. They're a

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Speaker 2: slight favorite against the number fourteen team in the country

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Speaker 1: I'll get in aside. It's been fun to watch, and

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Speaker 2: The game when he turned twenty nine seconds to go,

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Speaker 2: as for Brendan Soresby, one of these ESPN number crunching

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Speaker 2: The offensive line has been tremendous. They've given up just

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Speaker 1: I think so simply because you know, you've got a

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Speaker 1: It's always about capitalizing when the other team is down,

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Speaker 1: My take with that is Russell Wilson, Okay, or Kirk

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Speaker 2: The offensive line has really struggled. That's where it begins.

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Speaker 2: They scored fifty two in week two against the Bears.

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Speaker 1: Voice of All Sports in Cincinnati, Dan Hord on the

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Speaker 1: show on seven hundred WLW turnovers and penalties and consecutive games.

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Speaker 1: Now two weeks it was turnovers this lest we it

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Speaker 2: He was throwing a downfield early in that game against Denver.

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Speaker 1: It is going to be. I'm not looking forward tomorrow's

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Speaker 1: morning to chop it up. But I'm my fingers are crossed. Maybe,

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Speaker 1: this point, Dan, I really really don't Other than God,

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Speaker 1: All the best, lonely, one thing, one thing before you

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Speaker 2: So no matter how bleak it seems, on any given Friday,

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Speaker 1: At least we have long term hope. You know, at

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Speaker 2: Right, Dylan Gabriel makes his starting debut this week in London.

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Speaker 1: All the best, Buddy very well, nois Man Dan Horde

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Speaker 1: One of the best Bengals coverage. God help us. Seven

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Speaker 5: Brian, good morning, Hi, Cincinnati police have set all summer.

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Speaker 5: to see a probation officer, was supposed to enroll in

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Speaker 5: behavior modification classes, didn't do that. The judge in this case,

433
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Speaker 5: ally hath the Way, had told him to find a job.

434
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Speaker 5: Didn't do that either, So all the conditions of his

435
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 5: parole were being violated. We don't know if anybody was

436
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 5: trying to find him. He hadn't been violated on the

437
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 5: charge till after this murder. So now they've checked several

438
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Speaker 5: boxes saying, you know the reasons why he's violated his probation.

439
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 5: He'll face the full three years on that, plus whatever

440
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 5: he might get on the merger degree.

441
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Speaker 1: It's Patrick Haringer and the like all over again, and

442
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: that you have someone who is already jammed up a gun,

443
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Speaker 1: someone who should not have a weapon simply because he's

444
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Speaker 1: prohibited from it, meaning that that's the whole point of

445
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Speaker 1: this thing is. And so instead of going, hey, you know,

446
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Speaker 1: we're going to sentence you, We're going to put you

447
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Speaker 1: on probation because I'm assuming it's the first gunspeck he's

448
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Speaker 1: had gun violation. He said, well, he.

449
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Speaker 5: Just turned eighteen, so he just I mean, just become

450
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Speaker 5: an adult. So many other cases we're all in, but

451
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Speaker 5: you are allowed to consider the juvenile record at sentencing

452
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Speaker 5: for adult court.

453
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if the judge did.

454
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Speaker 5: I don't know if this is standard that you know,

455
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Speaker 5: the first defense for a weapon under disability is probation.

456
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Speaker 5: It's hard to search court records to see how other

457
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Speaker 5: cases similar and handled. I did you know use AI

458
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Speaker 5: to surgency if it's typical for somebody in Ohio to

459
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Speaker 5: go to prison on this, And they said yes, anywhere

460
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 5: from nine to thirty six months, depending on your past record,

461
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Speaker 5: and if you were committing some other crime at the

462
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Speaker 5: same time. So we know he had a past record

463
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Speaker 5: and yet he still got probation. You know, police are

464
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 5: so frustrated the overtime that they've been putting in this summer.

465
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Speaker 5: A couple of these cases like this we've had this

466
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Speaker 5: summer were cases where that special Fugitive Task Force that

467
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Speaker 5: was just set up to deal with violent crime in Cincinnati,

468
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 5: that they had caught the guys that were later released. Now,

469
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Speaker 5: I don't know if if that is the case here,

470
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Speaker 5: I'm trying to find out, but I wouldn't be surprised

471
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Speaker 5: at all if he was on their radar for something else.

472
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Speaker 5: And you know, the arrest in this murder was made

473
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Speaker 5: pretty quickly, so I would think that they have a

474
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Speaker 5: pretty good idea of who he was and what he

475
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 5: was up there. You just broke this story and you've

476
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 5: got this all up on X right right Ax, Facebook,

477
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Speaker 5: both of our pages have got it. I mean, I mean,

478
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Speaker 5: to be honest, it doesn't take that much effort. You

479
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 5: look at the court records and this stuff just jumps

480
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 5: out at you, including the probation violation was just in

481
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Speaker 5: court two days ago.

482
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Speaker 1: All right, Brian colmbsaid great in the high bars.

483
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Speaker 5: Now, just everybody knows and the Hamilton Guy justice set

484
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Speaker 5: are a million dollars bud.

485
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but but it doesn't save the life of the

486
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Speaker 1: sixteen year old who, by all accounts was just wrong place,

487
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Speaker 1: wrong time, right.

488
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not sure they haven't really said the circumstances

489
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Speaker 5: of that. We had two actually we said two teams

490
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Speaker 5: all day. But it turns out one of the victims

491
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 5: last night was twelve. The other one I think was fourteen,

492
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 5: shot in the drive by exact same spot in Grant Park.

493
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Speaker 5: You'll see today a bunch of police officers, community volunteers.

494
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Speaker 5: This has been targeted as one of the worst spots

495
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Speaker 5: in the city, and today there's a part of the

496
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 5: ac Cincinnati Gun Violence Effort, a beautification project where all

497
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 5: kinds of neighborhood volunteers are out along with the police,

498
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 5: cleaning up graffiti, cleaning up trash, trying to restore a

499
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Speaker 5: little pride in the neighborhood, which they hope would help

500
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Speaker 5: control the violence.

501
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Speaker 1: If these knuckleheads are running around scott free not being

502
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Speaker 1: held accountable for their actions, Brian again, it's at action

503
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Speaker 1: Twitter seven hundred W. I appreciate a good job on that,

504
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: Thanks enterprising young reporter you're going to make some something

505
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Speaker 1: of yourself. One of these days, it's going to get

506
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Speaker 1: a burrow or some sort of peabody or something along

507
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Speaker 1: those lines. How outrageous is that to hear that this morning,

508
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Speaker 1: on a beautiful Friday morning, we're getting excited for the

509
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Speaker 1: weekend being here at all, and you got to hear this,

510
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: so shot dead and by all accounts, good kid, just

511
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: wrong place, wrong time, wasn't jammed up in anything. As

512
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: far as we know, eighteen year old Devin Markham is

513
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 1: behind bars and a million dollar hold. And it turns

514
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 1: out and it's just part and parcel for what's passing

515
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: is justice in Hamlet County and specific to the city

516
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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. And then you have a judge going, well,

517
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Speaker 1: you know what, I don't want to scar this kid

518
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: for life. And granted, you know, kids, we all have

519
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: done dumb stuff. I've known about you. I've never picked

520
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: up a gun, never picked up a gun and aimed

521
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: and pointed at someone and did it on the city

522
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: street over some stupid beef. Never did that when I

523
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: was a teenager. But Markham thought that was a good idea.

524
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Speaker 1: And I'm guessing that the pattern of behavior just didn't

525
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: begin and end with that gun. There was a bunch

526
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Speaker 1: of things leading up to that. And you know, I'm sorry,

527
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: either we take gun crimes seriously or we don't. Now

528
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: all you hear about every time there's a mass shooting

529
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: another shooting is like, you know, the right is going

530
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: to offer thoughts and prayers, then the left is going

531
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: to offer more legislation and more laws that really aren't

532
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: going to do anything because we have you're not going

533
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: to You're not going to stop the tide to gun.

534
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: The thirst for guns in America is huge. You know,

535
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: under the Second Amendment of the Constitution, we're allowed to

536
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 1: We're allowed to carry guns. Okay. I think that there

537
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: is a great responsibility for those of us who choose

538
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: to exercise that's that Second Amendment right in that to

539
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: make sure the gun's locked up. I'm a big proponent

540
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: of passing legislation and holding people accountable for who feel that, Hey,

541
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to bring a gun with me,

542
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: but in the area is where I can't carry, I'm

543
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: just gonna throw it under the seat of my car

544
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: or leave it in a console or in a lot.

545
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: And that's why cars are getting broken into I think

546
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: that there's got to be uh And I hate to

547
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: put more laws on those law abiding people like me

548
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: and you, but damn it. If you're going to carry

549
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: a gun and there's a lot of areas where you

550
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: can't bring the gun with you, you got to do

551
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: better than just simply leave it under the seat, because

552
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: so many young people are breaking in the cars and

553
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: stealing our guns. The guns are expensive, and I think

554
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: about it. You park downtown a lot of areas, you're

555
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 1: gonna have your windows smash. And they're not looking for

556
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: change or remember the old days, they get some changes,

557
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: steal your stereo. No one's stealing stereos out radios out

558
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: of cars anymore, but they are. They're looking for guns.

559
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: They're looking for weapons, and maybe laptops another step, but

560
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: larger guns and a lot of the guns that are

561
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: falling in these hands are coming from those sources. And

562
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: that's on me and you as law abiding gun owners,

563
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 1: to make sure that we've got that thing secure, like

564
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: locked in a box that's bolted to the frame or

565
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: chained to the seat, something along the lines. And now

566
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: is that gonna you know, if someone really wants to

567
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: take it, they bolt cutters or something, or a torch.

568
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: Not too many criminals or torches, but it's moreble opportunities

569
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: smash look around, I find a gun. Good, I got

570
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: a gun, and then what do they do? They go

571
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: run around and commit crimes. It's not on it. You're going, well,

572
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: what do we need more laws against good people? Well,

573
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: if if I carry and I take my weapon with me,

574
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: I've got a safe in my car or my truck,

575
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: and I make sure it's locked up, that's the best

576
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: I can do. It doesn't mean that someone still can't

577
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: steal it and smash the safe and everything else, but

578
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: I at least didn't leave it under a seat that

579
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: could lead to a tragedy like this. I did everything

580
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: I possibly could. On the other hand, I think the

581
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: bigger onus, though, is on the judicious the justice systems,

582
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: particular in Hamlin County. It makes no sense to me

583
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: that you have all these laws that restrict the rights

584
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: of law abiding gun owners and then to turn around

585
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: and simply when someone is caught under disability, meaning they're

586
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: not allowed to have a weapon, be it a someone

587
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: with a convicted felon or someone who's underage, and they're

588
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: caught with a gun, to simply leave them with a

589
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: slap on the wrist, to simply go, okay, well you're

590
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: not one probation all right, all right, maybe this is

591
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: his first defense. Let's play that game that Devin Markham,

592
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: Devon Markham, this was his first defense. Probably not because

593
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: he had a juvenile record, which a judge you'd look at,

594
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: but the same thing I look at. Okay, great, So

595
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: all you have to here's what you need to do.

596
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: You need to report to your probation office. You need

597
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: to get a job. You're eighteen years old, get a job,

598
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: find a job. Okay. Great. Didn't do any of it.

599
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean literally was lying to the judge when she

600
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: was telling him what the terms of his probation would be. Yes, yes,

601
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: I'll do that, your honor. You know, when you don't

602
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: have a job or you're not looking for each other

603
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: and there's no one following up on this stuff, and

604
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: that's the problem. It's it's like the ankle monitors, right,

605
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: you cut off your ankle monitor. Okay, we'll put a

606
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: we'll put a warrant out for your arrest. Well I'm sorry,

607
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: but if you're gonna do that, if you're gonna thumb

608
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: the nose pay cutting off an ankle monitor said this

609
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: plumb blue in the face cut off an ankle monitor.

610
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it should be in all points, but you

611
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: should be looking, actively searching for that individual. Like literally

612
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: have teams available and I know the police fighter we

613
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: just I mean, we just what another four and a

614
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: half million for police, So there's got to be a

615
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: test for us available at the ready, kind of like

616
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: swaddle most Hey, somebody cut their ankle monitor off, We're

617
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: gonna come find you right now. It's a priority because

618
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna do bad stuff. And I would say to

619
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: to the same degree, if you violate those terms of probation,

620
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: it should be at that point one striking your out.

621
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be well, you know, someday we'll probably commit

622
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: a crime and hopefully it won't be murder and we'll

623
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: pick them up at a later date. Well, guess what,

624
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: it's murder now. And because of our laxadaisical attitude for

625
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: those who wind up getting the bench in Hamlin County

626
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: and in Cincinnati. This is just part in parcel Wiscon.

627
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: It's Patrick Herringer. It's happened several times since then. And

628
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: when does the insanity end. He was arrested in May

629
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: on charges of having a weaponarner disability, sentenced to community

630
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: control in July, and now in September, a sixteen year

631
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: old boy is dead. All because we just simply trust

632
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: the criminals and take their word for it. I understand

633
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: that the dockets are filled with people. The judges are very,

634
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: very busy. They're overworked. Everyone's overworked these days. I get that.

635
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. But if we're going to spend all

636
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: this money in law enforcement, I think a lot of

637
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: this money needs to debid. A greater portion of money

638
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: needs to be spent on making sure the defenders like

639
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: this as soon as they reviolate, they get swept up.

640
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 1: That is really the only way to stop, because how

641
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: many of these violent crimes occur a someone who shouldn't

642
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: have had the gun in the first place, who shouldn't

643
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: have been on parole, who should have been behind bars,

644
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 1: who violated their probation, who cut off the ankle monitor.

645
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: It's just a steady drum beat now of violence, and

646
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Speaker 1: then weeks later we found out, well, this is someone

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Speaker 1: who shitting been on the street in the first place.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how many more chances do you give an individual,

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Speaker 1: I would say, you know, I'm all for trying to

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Speaker 1: reform someone someone turned their life around, whatever it might be.

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Speaker 1: And there's not a lot, but there's playing of stories

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Speaker 1: of people who go to prison and get the fear

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Speaker 1: of God. Put them because they want to live their

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Speaker 1: life behind bars and live that way like an animal

655
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Speaker 1: the rest of their lives and go, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm done with this, okay, And that's awesome. Not everyone,

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Speaker 1: not probably not most people, because recidivism rates are pretty

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Speaker 1: high in America, but it's a lot of people. If

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Speaker 1: you're younger, I don't want to give up any I

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Speaker 1: want to give you, certainly a second chance. But you

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Speaker 1: got to play the game. You got to engage if

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Speaker 1: you right from the jump go yeah, I'm not showing

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Speaker 1: up to team with a probation officer. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to find a job that tells me you're not serious,

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Speaker 1: serious about turning your life around. And you can make

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Speaker 1: an excuse, go, well, you know what kind of job

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Speaker 1: am I going to find, especially in this economy right now? Fair?

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Speaker 1: But you know, for those of us who've ever been

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Speaker 1: on unemployment, you have to prove on a fairly regular

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Speaker 1: basis to the State of Ohio. If you're if you're

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Speaker 1: drawing funds from them, you have to prove to them

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Speaker 1: that you're actively searching for a job. Okay, And that's

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Speaker 1: just someone who's lost their job through I don't know,

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Speaker 1: reduction and force, maybe the boss, maybe you know reasons

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Speaker 1: what it. But largely people who get laid off furloughed,

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Speaker 1: as the case may be, they didn't do anything wrong.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's a numbers game, and those people are

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Speaker 1: held to a higher level of accountability than people who

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Speaker 1: vitolated the law in this case, In this case Devon Markham,

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Speaker 1: who didn't even bother looking for a job. Like, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, a State of Ohio employment benefits that I

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Speaker 1: pay into by the way that my employer pays and

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Speaker 1: so I go to claim those benefits, I got to

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Speaker 1: prove to you on a regular basis that I'm looking

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Speaker 1: for a job. This guy is foeling the law of

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Speaker 1: the gun laws as a juvenile, and we hold abiding,

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Speaker 1: hard working people who get fired, who get reduced to

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Speaker 1: get laid off to a higher standard than the street criminal.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't make any damn sense, does it, But welcome to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: That's how we roll here. That's exactly how we roll.

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Speaker 1: I've got to get a break, and we got news

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Speaker 1: on the way in just a few minutes. Staria. Somewhere

693
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Speaker 1: around ten o'clock or a little bit there after. It

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Speaker 1: is the sentencing of not Brian Colms, but Sean did

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Speaker 1: He Colms. He's looking at a maximum I think about

696
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Speaker 1: eleven years and has finally said, hey, listen, I screwed up.

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Speaker 1: I made a mistake. Give me a break. Maybe a

698
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Speaker 1: little late for that. Now we'll see how the court

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Speaker 1: treats him. We've got that going on, probably the only

700
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Speaker 1: big serious topic. The other element going on today is

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Speaker 1: Bengals football, which is also a tragedy too because the

702
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Speaker 1: Bengals have the Detroit Lions coming to town. The most

703
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Speaker 1: lopsided odds in the entirety of the NFL this week

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Speaker 1: are right here in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Bengals are ten

705
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Speaker 1: point underdogs to the Detroit Lions. Lions come in roll

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Speaker 1: and they won. I think they lost their first game,

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Speaker 1: and then they have been rolling teams and looking very

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Speaker 1: formidable as the Lions of last season. And that first

709
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Speaker 1: week is always an anomaly in the NFL, just the

710
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Speaker 1: way it is. But three straight wins of the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 1: So Dan Campbell and his crew, Jared Goff coming to

712
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Speaker 1: town and the Bengals extremely vulnerable right now. I know

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Speaker 1: there are people screaming and clamoring to bring Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: in here. What about James Wilson, Jameis Winston, what about

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. Now, the Bengals are very reluctant, first of all,

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Speaker 1: to trade any draft capital for Kirk Cousins or Jameis

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Speaker 1: Winston because you're gonna have to give up some draft

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Speaker 1: capital for that. Probably not likely. Also, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I watch a couple of games, a couple of games

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Speaker 1: with Russ Wilson, who you know, ten years ago, This

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Speaker 1: is not the ten years ago Russ Wilson. Russ Wilson's

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Speaker 1: terrible right now. Will you lose to the Detroit Lions

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Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson as your quarterback? Yes, you may lose

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Speaker 1: by a narrower margin than you would with Jake brown

725
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Speaker 1: because Jake Browning is the other side of terrible right now,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know how he's going to get better

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Speaker 1: in a week, especially against the team that's coming to

728
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Speaker 1: the town this weekend. But is it just a difference

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Speaker 1: between losing by not a why to margin is why

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Speaker 1: you would go get a Russell Wilson That that's what

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Speaker 1: it seems like to me, especially with the teams Bengals

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Speaker 1: are going to face the next few weeks. So he

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Speaker 1: minds we just keep this guy and write this season

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Speaker 1: off yet again and Bengal fandom. The good news is well,

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Speaker 1: at least we're not Cleveland. If you're looking for a

736
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Speaker 1: silver line in Cleveland has no quarterback future at this

737
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Speaker 1: point unless it's Sharter Sanders, which doesn't look likely because

738
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Speaker 1: he's already playing to get the hell out of Cleveland. Uh,

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Speaker 1: just because he's doing the locker room with the media.

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Speaker 1: At least there's Joe Burrow may come back this season,

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Speaker 1: h probably next season for sure. It'll see it goes.

742
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Speaker 1: But it ain't going to be a good It ain't

743
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Speaker 1: gonna be a good weekend in Cincinnati. If you believe

744
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: the odds makers, and I kind of do. There's a

745
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Speaker 1: reason why they do what they do because usually they're

746
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Speaker 1: right anyway.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Austin Elmore later on this at ten thirty five Scott

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Speaker 1: Sloan Show, seven hundred WWT Cincinnati.

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Speaker 6: Want to.

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Speaker 1: Yes yes is the most dangerous word the dictionary because

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Speaker 1: it could lead to your own demise. Billio Vincent Gambudo

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Speaker 1: is here. Please don't subscribe. He is a master saying

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Speaker 1: no with something that most people are bad at. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. Are you?

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much? Thanks for having me. I'm good I

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Speaker 3: said yes to this, bapply.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why are you saying yes to me? That would

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Speaker 1: be the ultimate. It's like, hey, you want to get

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Speaker 1: on and talk about you know, unsubscribed. No, I'm good,

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Speaker 1: I've got too much, got too much going on, kind

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Speaker 1: of self defeeding. You pick the important stuff, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's true though we all have to. Man, I

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Speaker 1: guess I need to do this in order to fulfill

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Speaker 1: some sort of goal that I have, which would be

766
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Speaker 1: to sell books. I appreciate that. I appreciate taking time.

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Speaker 1: I've come on, But so yeah, why say? Where do

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Speaker 1: you draw a line of things? How do you how

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Speaker 1: do you determine what's in and what's out? In some days?

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Speaker 1: I think for most of us, it depends on how

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Speaker 1: we feel at that exact moment in time. Do you

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Speaker 1: catch me the right time? I might say, yes, you

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Speaker 1: catch me the wrong time. I'm probably gonna say.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, and you know what, either way is okay.

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Speaker 3: The kind of first, the first important part of saying

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Speaker 3: no right is understanding that it's okay and we've all

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Speaker 3: been really, really conditioned and souls are really sexy story

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Speaker 3: you know, in America in the last twenty years, that

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Speaker 3: we've got to say yes right, say you know, Carpa

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Speaker 3: diam say yes to the dress right like you know,

781
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Speaker 3: yes is the answer to everything we've always wanted. And

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Speaker 3: I think we live in a different time now right

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Speaker 3: where your we're constantly bombarded left, right and center with messages,

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Speaker 3: with information, with things to process, not only just commitments

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Speaker 3: and requests, but just you know, life is overwhelming, and

786
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Speaker 3: so learning how to be savvy about saying no really

787
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Speaker 3: really really is important. But the first step really is

788
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Speaker 3: to understand that you can say it right without without

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Speaker 3: without sort of losing losing at all, which is I

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Speaker 3: think the fear that we.

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Speaker 1: Have yeah, and the message bombarding it doesn't begin and

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Speaker 1: end with it, but it's the mobile device, it's a text,

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Speaker 1: it's something on social media, it's a direct message, it's

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Speaker 1: an email, it's a call, it's we are bombarded NonStop

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Speaker 1: with esks. That largely is the I think the tipping

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Speaker 1: point for this conversation isn't it is If we got

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Speaker 1: rid of our mobile device and just didn't respond, we'd

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Speaker 1: be in much better headspace.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's really important, you know. I mean

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Speaker 3: these times, this technology it calls for us to be

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Speaker 3: you know, really really specific and intentional about how we

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Speaker 3: use these devices. I mean, you know, the companies that

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Speaker 3: sell them, they want us to use it in a

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Speaker 3: certain way, and we've got to sort of wake up

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Speaker 3: to the fact that that way is not serving us well. Right,

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Speaker 3: Being connected twenty four hours a day, being always on,

807
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Speaker 3: being accessible, having no boundaries, right, these things are not

808
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Speaker 3: serving us. There's not helping life be better, richer, deeper,

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Speaker 3: more satisfying. And so, you know, from a very very

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Speaker 3: surface level logistically, right, we've got to make decisions about

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Speaker 3: how we use these devices. My laptop is for this,

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Speaker 3: my phone is for that. I'm going to set some

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Speaker 3: rules and parameters for myself.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know, those are the things that have been eroded,

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Speaker 3: and they've been eroded on purpose, right, so that we

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Speaker 3: just feel constantly connected and on uh and uh and

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Speaker 3: and it's really kind of time in the in the

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Speaker 3: large scale or in a large viewed here. Uh, to

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Speaker 3: just get some some clearer and cleaner boundaries.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's talk about taking back our time. How

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Speaker 1: do we set those boundaries? And it's easier said than done.

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Speaker 1: And I think in particular, and and I'm generalizing here,

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Speaker 1: of course, maybe stereotyping, but it seems like women have

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Speaker 1: much more difficulty men and saying no. They want to

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Speaker 1: try to be everything to everybody. They don't want to

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Speaker 1: disappoint you know, kids and husbands, spouses, or certainly their

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Speaker 1: girlfriends and people at work, and so they try to

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Speaker 1: do everything all the time. And there's plenty of guys

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Speaker 1: that do that. Don't get me wrong, A lot of

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Speaker 1: us do that. But generally you look at this and go, wow,

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Speaker 1: that's that hits women on the head. And I think

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Speaker 1: that is why women feel so compromise these days. But

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Speaker 1: all right, so, how do I begin by saying no?

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Speaker 1: How do you train someone to say no who's programmed

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Speaker 1: to say yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, you know, it is the question of

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Speaker 3: our time. I think that that all starts. It all

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Speaker 3: starts on the surface, right, I think, and I like

840
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Speaker 3: to look at all of this through the through the

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Speaker 3: lens of a sort of three places that we can

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Speaker 3: look at and target in our lives. One being the surface, right,

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Speaker 3: all the screens, everything that we're touching all day long,

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Speaker 3: our digital life. Second being our social networks, both on

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Speaker 3: and off right, sort of learning to speak to them

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Speaker 3: and defy some of the narratives that we have and

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Speaker 3: that we share that somehow know succept is being busy

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Speaker 3: constantly and that you know, we we we sort of

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Speaker 3: parent these beliefs around to one another all day long, right,

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Speaker 3: and kind of learning to say, you know what, I

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Speaker 3: don't believe that, I don't think that's true. I think

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Speaker 3: I have to sort of create a different space for

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Speaker 3: myself and for my family. And then that sort of

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Speaker 3: third level, which I talk about in my book, really

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Speaker 3: is sort of these underlying subscriptions. What does that mean?

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Speaker 3: It just sort of means, like the beliefs that we

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Speaker 3: hold really really pearly, you know, about our identity and

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Speaker 3: who we are. I you know, certainly before the pandemic,

859
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: which was a really big turning point for me. I

860
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: know we're all sick of talking about it, but but

861
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: you know this, it was sort of the genesis of

862
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 3: my work was My life was just constant, right, It

863
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 3: was just on the go all the time, always everywhere.

864
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: And I can't speak to women specifically, but I can

865
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 3: speak from my perspective, which is that, you know, I

866
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 3: was feeling like, oh my god, I have been to

867
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: be this upwardly mobile, successful type a person and I

868
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: never stopped back to question any of it. So, you know, yes, absolutely,

869
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: I think there are things we can do on the surface,

870
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: but so much of this is about digging even deeper

871
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 3: to understand. You know, why are why do we feel

872
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: the need to people please, Why do we feel the

873
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: need to always link success with being busy? Why do

874
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 3: we feel the need constantly to be accessible to everyone

875
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 3: or to not find the words to politely say, you

876
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 3: know what, my time, attention, money, cash, all those things

877
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 3: are super important to me and have to take precedence

878
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 3: right now. And I don't necessarily mean it, you know,

879
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 3: one to one with everyone, but I do mean when

880
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 3: you look at the whole of life, right, how can

881
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: I be how can I be a little bit more

882
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 3: selfish in how I spend my time and where I've

883
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 3: put my focus, so anyway to be practical about it.

884
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: One of the things that I you know, suggest people

885
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: take a look at is not even necessarily you know,

886
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 3: do this or do that, but take a step back

887
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 3: and ask the question, you know, how can I slow

888
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: this down? How can I put more structure in? And

889
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 3: how can I make this more human? And I think

890
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 3: those are the three things that have happened in the

891
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: last ten and twenty years in our country because of

892
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: all of this tech, because of how wired we are,

893
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: we have sped it all up. We have taken the

894
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 3: parameters and the boundaries away, and we've made it less human.

895
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: And so, you know, from a just practical perspective, if

896
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 3: we can stop in any given moment that's overwhelming to

897
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 3: us and ask those questions, I think people, you know,

898
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: can find the answers that are specific to their lives

899
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 3: and helpful to them by by start of taking that breath.

900
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, it's Julia Vincent Gambudo on the

901
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: show this morning. Please under subscribe. Thanks taking back our time,

902
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: attention and purpose and world designed to bury us and bs,

903
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: which is largely true. It just we pilot on pilot

904
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: on pilod on. Although I just had this conversation with

905
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: a buddy of mine and he's a guy. You know

906
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: gen X are like me, uh and raised by parents

907
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: and there and also grandparents too, where work was everything

908
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: for man. Right, It's like, okay, you go when you work,

909
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: you work your work, you work, you work all day,

910
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: you work hard, you work smart, you make your money,

911
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: and then hopefully at the end you start to cash

912
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: out and enjoy the fruits of your labor. I think

913
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: that models changed because we have seen in a lot

914
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: of people are as older certainly would look at it

915
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: and go, oh my god, nobody wants to work anymore.

916
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: And I think it's partly true, and it looks and

917
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: appears that way, but you know, look at it this way.

918
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: When you were working when you were younger, Hey can

919
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: we go and uh, we're gonna want a family vacation.

920
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: How much time did you spend working while on vacation

921
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: because things were expected you at work or weekends or nights,

922
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: or you may be distracted by different projects and things

923
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: you had to get done. And so you know, kids

924
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: absorb that like a sponge and they say, all right, well,

925
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, we live a nice life. I guess, relatively speaking,

926
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: we always want more as a kid. But at the

927
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 1: same time, you know, I saw what work has done

928
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: to my parents. I saw the two thousand and eight

929
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: housing collapse, what that did a lot of people. We

930
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: saw what happened during the pandemic and people losing their jobs,

931
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: Like and I think you're good people look at that

932
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: and said, you know what, tomorrow is not given. I'm

933
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: gonna enjoy life in the moment, at the moment, right now. Now,

934
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: do they want nice things with I'm putting that kind

935
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: of effort in absolutely. But you can choose to have.

936
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: You can choose to live that life where you're not

937
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: consumed with work and not consumed with burning the mid

938
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: not all and doing those things at previous generations, but

939
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: you're probably not going to have as much at the end.

940
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: So that is a choice that you will make. I

941
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: respect that out of today said that they literally, hey,

942
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: I'm going on vacation now. I'm not waiting until I'm

943
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: in my sixties to travel. I think that's an awesome thing.

944
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: But you're doing at the expense of future comfort, and

945
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: that's a trade off you have to accept.

946
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I agree with you. I think well, first,

947
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 3: I think our generation I'm a sennial. I guess they

948
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 3: call us these folks who were born, you know, late seventies,

949
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 3: early eighties, and we're sort of sandwiched in the middle.

950
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 3: We we we grew up without email and without tech,

951
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 3: and then graduated college and suddenly, right, you know, so

952
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 3: we went out into the professional world really unequipped, really

953
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 3: uh to to understand what this all meant and what

954
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 3: it what it asks of us. But to your point,

955
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: you know, I think this generation, the younger generation, is

956
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 3: seeing these things, but they're also seeing that the mass

957
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: doesn't add up, right, and without without stoking a political fire,

958
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: I mean, the truth is that, you know, the numbers

959
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 3: just do not support working at that kind of level.

960
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: You know that that past generations did. Right, We're seeing

961
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 3: that we're getting less for our money. We're seeing that

962
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 3: prices for even homes, right, which is like this major

963
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 3: symbol of our financial and material success, right, that is

964
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: a different proportion of our income. It is a much

965
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 3: much larger buy in than it has ever been before.

966
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: We're seeing that even the cost of vacations right proportional

967
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 3: to what people make per year, has gone up. So

968
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 3: all those things, I mean, those are small examples, but

969
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: there are plenty in the list as long of sort

970
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 3: of where the map isn't massing right.

971
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 7: Now.

972
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: I hate the fact by the way that older people

973
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: in particular, maybe, but you know, you can work hard

974
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: to or three or four jobs, but that's not the

975
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: same as it was when we were young, when you

976
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: were when I was young, certainly, and for you, and

977
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 1: if you're older, if you know, in your sixties, seventies,

978
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: eighties or whatever, it's a whole different dynamic. Now. You

979
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: could work, you know, four different full time jobs and

980
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: still have a hard time servicing your debt. There's inflation.

981
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: Inflation has gone up, and wages have not kept up,

982
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: and we've seen the gap between GDP and wages just

983
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: continue to grow further and further apart. It's a real deal.

984
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: Don't be dismissive of younger people say, man, I'm working,

985
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: you know, I just I can't get ahead. Well, you

986
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: need to work harder. Well, you know now, if you're

987
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: up there in age, yeah, maybe you worked hard, but

988
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: your money went a lot today And when I were

989
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: talking about getting buried in college debt and stuff like that,

990
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: and so I think that work is becoming less important

991
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: to individuals. But I would say that work is the

992
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 1: business of the United States, the business of America's business,

993
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: and that means people have to work. And so if

994
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: you're not willing to do that at some point, are

995
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: you're going to do it less? And God bless you

996
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 1: if you that's your choice, But you stand a high

997
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: likelihood that AI is going to come in and fill

998
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: that void.

999
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 3: Well, I think now it is going to not only

1000
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 3: fill the void, it's going to blow the void his

1001
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 3: bery here. And I think where we are, you know,

1002
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: not necessarily completely emotionally prepared for what's about to happen,

1003
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 3: for the losses that we're going to see. Not to

1004
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 3: be doomsday about it, because I think there is a

1005
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 3: scenario where this can be helpful to humanity. This can

1006
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 3: be helpful to the economy and also to our to

1007
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 3: our day to day. But we've got to have really,

1008
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: really much larger conversations and at the highest levels.

1009
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: Of power about how we use.

1010
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 3: AI in order to benefit the masses. Right and right

1011
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 3: now it's in the hands of a handful of corporations

1012
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 3: that are only going to use it for their specific

1013
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 3: gain and goals, and so it's it's really you know,

1014
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 3: now is the time to be having a conversation, to

1015
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 3: be pushing back and to be speaking tru to power

1016
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 3: to say, hey, you know, while this is going to

1017
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 3: change humanity, how is everyone going to benefit?

1018
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: Right?

1019
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 3: And I don't think everyone needs to necessarily. I'm not

1020
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 3: talking about, you know, outright socialism. I'm talking about having

1021
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 3: conversations about how we fuel capitalism with things like AI. Right,

1022
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 3: this is world changing, This is life altering for all

1023
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 3: of humanity. And I think we've got to wake up

1024
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 3: to how significant a change is coming and start to

1025
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 3: really have serious conversations about how that gets spread out

1026
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 3: right among three hundred million people here in the US

1027
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 3: and obviously more across the world. But how do you

1028
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 3: bring that benefit? And I'm not an AI specialist, but

1029
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 3: the question to be asked is how do you bring

1030
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: that benefit to as many people as possible?

1031
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: Probably going to make things worse where it's like, oh, yeah,

1032
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, look at the ads for everything that's technology's

1033
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: going to make your life so much either. No, it's

1034
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: not just gonna make it more complex. I'll have more

1035
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: different things to do and more passwords to remember and

1036
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: crap like that. And I get why younger people are

1037
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: checking out, and maybe we've peaked at that too, because

1038
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: how much of this do you think we had a

1039
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: glimpse of life when COVID went on. I mean, we

1040
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: look back at COVID, it was a scary time. For sure,

1041
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: we didn't know where this thing was headed. But for

1042
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people listening to the early days anyway,

1043
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: it was like, wait a minute, hold on a second,

1044
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: I can work from home. I can work remotely. I

1045
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: don't have that now if you lost your job obviously

1046
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: because of that's a different story or a riff. But

1047
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: for most people it's like, okay, I can work from home.

1048
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: What does that look like. I'm in my pajamas and

1049
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: it's like, you know what, nothing that We're not going

1050
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: to go out and socialized because everything's closed. It's it's

1051
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: amazing how in just a few years we've gotten way

1052
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: far away from that. We had a taste of like

1053
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: slowing life downe but clearly those Americans we don't want

1054
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: that we've returned to office is a thing. We've ramped

1055
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: it all up, and I think we exceeded where we

1056
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: were in twenty twenty before COVID really hit.

1057
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 3: I mean, so many of the numbers are bearing out

1058
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 3: that we are back with a bench. Yeah, no doubt,

1059
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: you know, and I think part of that. You know,

1060
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 3: there's a lot of reasons you could point to for

1061
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 3: why we went back to normal, but one of the

1062
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 3: things I think that's really important is that we were

1063
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 3: committed to it.

1064
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: Right.

1065
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 3: We had we had a thirty year mortgage, right, not

1066
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 3: a five or ten year or fifteen, right. We had

1067
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 3: a we had jobs that all of it. I'm not

1068
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 3: ever saying that, you know, people don't have to go

1069
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 3: and work and make a living, but I do think

1070
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 3: that we went back very easily, and we went back

1071
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 3: sort of because the story was sold to us that

1072
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 3: you know, normal is normal is good, Normal is what

1073
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 3: we need in our lives. And we've got to get

1074
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: back to the over consumption, and we've got to get

1075
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,479
Speaker 3: back to the go, go go and the run goun run,

1076
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 3: you know. And I think it just behooves all of

1077
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 3: us to kind of just remember that in those moments

1078
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 3: when the chips were down and things looked really dark,

1079
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: you know what was important to us, Right? What did

1080
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 3: we run to? Who are the people we turned to?

1081
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 3: What are the things that we did? I mean, there's

1082
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: no way to recreate that moment, and I wouldn't want to,

1083
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 3: but there was a great value in it, right, There

1084
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 3: was great value in sort of understanding like, oh wow,

1085
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 3: my life actually boiled down to these ten fifteen people,

1086
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 3: like these few things that I love to do, these people.

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Speaker 2: That I love, this recipe that I like me whatever

1088
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 2: it is, right.

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00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And tearing that forward can be a difficult process.

1090
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 3: But I think you know, the first step that sort

1091
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 3: of recognizing it, even writing it down, being really aware

1092
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 3: of kind of you know, what was it in that

1093
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 3: moment that I ran to that was valuable to me

1094
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 3: and meaningful for me? And how can I bring that

1095
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: forward in my life? But I think you're totally right

1096
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 3: that COVID with this weird exercise and anti socialism, right.

1097
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: You guys are, and we went we really don't want

1098
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: this or that's not expected of us anymore. It's it

1099
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: is fascinating. Please unsubscribe. Thanks. It's Julio Vincent Cambudo on

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00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,479
Speaker 1: The Sconserland Show seven hundred WW taking back your time

1101
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: and attention and purpose in this world, in this crazy,

1102
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 1: crazy world. Thanks for coming on the show, all the best,

1103
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me you well too long. Didn't read

1104
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 1: just say no. Sometimes I'll say no a lot more

1105
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: often at least his equal number of yes is that

1106
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: you give. You keep saying yes to stuff all the time,

1107
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: you're headed that cycle of burnout. That's real because it

1108
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: comes at us all the time, not saying, you know,

1109
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: stop being charitable or hopeful, or be a good friend

1110
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: or a husband, or a mother or a son or

1111
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: a daughter saying you know you sometimes you'll just got

1112
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: the carved room out for yourself. I get that, now,

1113
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 1: get that later in life anyway. Maybe it involves sitting

1114
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 1: around drinking, having something to eat. Maybe it involves sports

1115
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: this weekend coming it got you covered there. Austin Elmore

1116
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: from ESPN fifteen thirty jumps in next. Did the Bengals

1117
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: even stand a chance against Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions?

1118
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: The odds makers say no, simply because they are ten

1119
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: point underdogs at home at pay Corps on Sunday on

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00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: the Home of the Best. Bengals covered seven hundred WWT.

1121
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: Later today at noon on esp IN fifteen thirty, you

1122
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: hear this guy and Cincinnati's sports legend, the Hall of

1123
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: Famer himself, Tony Pike, chopping up sports. He's lot, where

1124
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: are you right now? You come? This is your one

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Speaker 1: call you're allowed from the lock up.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'm just I'm at home. I'm prepared at home.

1127
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 7: You were shared, you're prepared. You're not here that you're

1128
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 7: prepared or you're prepared. You're Prepared's good. We're we're on

1129
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 7: a remote today. We're going to be over at home,

1130
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 7: a rama over at the Foundry in Oakley with tell

1131
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 7: windows and doors. So I'm doing all my prep from

1132
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Speaker 7: home today. Try to stay away from you as much

1133
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Speaker 7: as I can.

1134
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Speaker 1: Dosn't got any bigger than that to well, you know,

1135
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't catch what I have my relative

1136
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: to my ankle injury, which that's not communicable disease. But

1137
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: that's all right. Maybe my luck, I probably would probably would.

1138
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: Where do we jump in this morning? We could kick

1139
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: around the ryy of the Reds pretty much. That's over.

1140
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: We exhausted that topic. Yesterday I watched nothing. I enjoyed

1141
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: watching some playoff baseball last night and the very generous

1142
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: strike zone. Granted than that the Cubs affair last night

1143
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 1: as Well's boy, I'll tell you what, watching some of

1144
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 1: the umpiring, and now that you know for a while

1145
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: now all the broadcasts that have sports or have baseball

1146
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 1: rather have the strike zone in it and just further

1147
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: emphasizes the difference between AI and the technology we have

1148
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: and the human eyeball. Because man, I'll tell you what

1149
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: it was egregious yesterday. If you want to you want

1150
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: to make sure that you your job is outsourced to computers.

1151
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: I think that was evidence last night with the Cubs

1152
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: Padres game. Yeah, I mean, without a doubt.

1153
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 8: I mean, major league umpires missed thousands and thousands and

1154
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 8: thousands of ball strike calls per week, and so over

1155
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 8: the course of a season, that adds up really quickly.

1156
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 8: And so next year they have an ounce that they're

1157
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 8: going to bring in the automated ball strike system, the

1158
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 8: Challenge System, and I think it's going to be good

1159
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 8: for baseball. I think last year when they were testing

1160
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 8: it both in the minor leagues, they did it in

1161
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 8: the All Star Game. This year in major leagues, they

1162
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 8: did in Major League Spring Training. And the whole thing

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Speaker 8: took I think roughly thirteen seconds on average for a

1164
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Speaker 8: challenge to go through. So if it's that, you know,

1165
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 8: it's that small and it doesn't require too much time

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Speaker 8: and too much effort, and you know, the video boards

1167
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 8: and the cameras and the technology, you might as well

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Speaker 8: use it to get the calls right, especially in a

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Speaker 8: game like last night, where the padres would have been

1170
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Speaker 8: able to successfully challenge several calls that the umpires missed,

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Speaker 8: and you know they were not happy with the umpires

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Speaker 8: and were yelling at him coming off the field.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame him. Yeah, I get it. I get

1174
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: in tar So Red is not part of the conversation.

1175
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: We kind of covered this the other day talking about

1176
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: what the off season looks like for the Red Legs.

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00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: We move on to current sports and probably should jump

1178
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: right into Bengals talk this morning as the three and

1179
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: one Lions come running into town. Here with that Dan

1180
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: Campbell at the Helm, ten point underdogs at home, the

1181
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: widest prediction as far as losses go in the NFL.

1182
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: Here you want to talk about just a glaring beatdown

1183
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 1: that is about to be experienced at pay Course, Davy,

1184
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: it's going to be with us. Earlier I talked to

1185
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: Dan Horde and he tends to be optimistic about things.

1186
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I would say I'm looking at

1187
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: Jake Browning situation, not that Jake Browning. We saw just

1188
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. It's a pal comparison. However,

1189
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Speaker 1: I can't believe people are clamoring for Russell Wilson to

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00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: take over that What exactly is Russell Wilson going to offer? Now,

1191
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: maybe he hits Jamar Chase and a couple of those

1192
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: blatantly open routesies on, but you get do you give

1193
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: up draft capital and do you get Russell Wilson just

1194
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: to make the losses closer? I just I don't understand

1195
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose. You're just gonna lose by probably less

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00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: of a margin. Does that matter? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Well, I think the Bengals might believe, or most people

1198
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 8: might believe that the Bengals margin isn't that big in

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Speaker 8: that a good quarterback could, you know, help shrink that

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00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 8: margin and make those games a lot more winnable, a

1201
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 8: lot more competitive. I tend to think right now that

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Speaker 8: even if you went out and acquired Russell Wilson or

1203
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 8: Jamis Winston or Derek Carr or insert quarterback here, that

1204
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 8: it's not going to have that big of a difference.

1205
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 8: And the main reason I say that is that the

1206
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 8: defense is still really really bad. Yes, and there's no

1207
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 8: run game, there's no offensive line as protection, and that's

1208
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 8: a major issue now. I think they played mildly better

1209
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Speaker 8: in the run and protecting Jake Browning on Monday Night

1210
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 8: in Denver, but you know, it's still a long, long

1211
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 8: road to hope for those guys, So you know, I

1212
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 8: don't think it would make that big of a difference.

1213
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 8: I don't think Jake Browning played good on Monday Night.

1214
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 8: He missed multiple opportunities. And if he makes those plays,

1215
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 8: if he completes those passes, then maybe it is a

1216
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 8: different game. Maybe it is more competitive. Maybe just being

1217
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 8: on the field longer helps your defense out and it's

1218
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 8: more close to what we expected to see from the Bengals.

1219
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Speaker 8: I just don't know that it's that big of a

1220
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 8: difference right now. If you were to bring in a

1221
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Speaker 8: guy like Russell Wilson, I think the Bengals still.

1222
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Speaker 1: Believe in Jake Browning.

1223
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Speaker 8: Early on, he was just reckless with the ball, and

1224
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 8: he was a gunslinger, and he was just not at

1225
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 8: all what we saw from him in twenty twenty three.

1226
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Speaker 8: And it felt like last week against Denver, he tried

1227
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 8: to overcorrect on that and he was a little too

1228
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 8: safe and he didn't take the extra chance he didn't

1229
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 8: drive the ball down the field as much as he could.

1230
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 8: He threw balls way out of bounds instead of given

1231
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Speaker 8: his receivers a chance. And so he's got to find

1232
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 8: that middle ground of like, yes, I need to be aggressive,

1233
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 8: I have to trust my receivers, but also I can

1234
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 8: make dumb decisions that hurt the football team. Jake's gotta

1235
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Speaker 8: find the middle ground.

1236
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Speaker 9: Er.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem is is your your your comparative is

1238
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, and Joe Burrow has covered a lot of

1239
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: the glaring weakness has now been exposed in the Jake

1240
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: Browning era when it comes to things like pass protection,

1241
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: getting the role making quick decisions doesn't offset the defense

1242
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: at all. But if you got Joe Burrow and he

1243
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: can throw a lot more dimes than Jake Browning can,

1244
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: maybe you could win a close game. Maybe and probably

1245
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: And we saw that, and that's the problem. You're comparing

1246
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: Jake Browning the big step down from Joe Burrow. I

1247
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 1: think if he had Russell Wilson in there, people would

1248
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: be going, well, how bad could Jake Browning be? That

1249
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: that's where we'd be, And it's it's very fickle.

1250
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Speaker 8: Yeah, without a doubt, And to me, it becomes less

1251
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 8: about comparing the two quarterbacks and more about saying, how

1252
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 8: can my head coach make an offense that is built

1253
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 8: around what Jake Browning does well. A perfect example is

1254
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 8: what we saw last night on Thursday Night Football. The

1255
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 8: way the San Francisco forty nine Ers in two games

1256
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 8: already this year. Because brock perty is dealing with turf

1257
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 8: tow that won't go away, Mac Jones has flawlessly operated

1258
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 8: the forty nine ers offense and led them to victories

1259
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 8: both on the road in tough environments, one in New Orleans,

1260
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Speaker 8: one in Los Angeles. Even though he's a lot of

1261
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,479
Speaker 8: Niners fans, short week Thursday night Division rival, he's able

1262
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 8: to go out there and win a game. So to me,

1263
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 8: the focus now really shifts to Zach Taylor. It's like, Okay,

1264
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 8: you built this offense around Joe Burrow and Jamar Jason

1265
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 8: t Higgins. How do you build an offense that has

1266
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 8: a running game that is competitive or dependable or at

1267
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 8: least not getting negative yardage every time? How can you

1268
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 8: build an offense that helps Jake Browning? Now, if you remember,

1269
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 8: you know when Jake.

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Speaker 1: Oh we lost as Austin, there is he back are

1271
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: you there? Oh, we have Austin Elmore issues. Maybe he's

1272
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: also simultaneously waiting for the sentencing here and to begin

1273
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: for one Sean Diddy, Brian Combs. Diddy or Didney is

1274
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: a big question to be answer today in court. We'll

1275
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: try to get Austin Onlmore back as he tackles the

1276
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: tough questions about Bengals football today. Yeah, I'm the mindset, Okay,

1277
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. People, I get Russell Wilson here. You think

1278
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: in a week or two he's gonna learn the playbook

1279
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 1: and be able to turn things around for this Bengal team.

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Speaker 1: He may maybe it gets you maybe one game on

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Speaker 1: a good day. But watched a little bit of Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson enough to know this isn't the same Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: as we saw winning Super Bowls and dominating the NFL

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Speaker 1: just a few, well not only a few a number

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Speaker 1: of years ago. Just doesn't work out. Is the math mathing?

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Speaker 1: Probably not. I think Jake Brown is just going to

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Speaker 1: be the guy until Joe Burrow comes back, unless some

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Speaker 1: sort of manna from heaven comes flowing down and we

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Speaker 1: get a quarterback in our lap. At that point, I'm

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Speaker 1: My concern with that Jake Browning though, is you saw

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Speaker 1: the frustration from someone like Jamar Chase and to a

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Speaker 1: degree t Higgins, those guys starting can place and going, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna run these routes and the ball's notable to

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Speaker 1: find even to be in the same time zone as

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Speaker 1: I am. What's the point How long before those guys

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Speaker 1: start dogging it? I think that's a real concern. Austin

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Speaker 1: is you know, if you want Browning, do you start

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Speaker 1: do these guys start losing interests as well? And we

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Speaker 1: saw this to some degree, I mean, turnovers and penalties,

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01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,919
Speaker 1: a lot of sloppy football. Coach said no more self

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Speaker 1: inflicted errors. But I think when you have the crisis

1302
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Speaker 1: and both sides of the ball that you're facing right

1303
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: now in different degrees, I think the self inflicted errors

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01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: come because guys just quit focusing. That's what it looked

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Speaker 1: like to me. Any truth in that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how you wouldn't get

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Speaker 8: that takeaway from watching them over the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 8: especially when one fumble or one penalty or a couple

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Speaker 8: of penalties, and it felt like it just completely unraveled,

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Speaker 8: like guys threw in.

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Speaker 1: The towel, like they gave up. What's the point?

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Speaker 8: You give Jamar Chase a lot of credit because Jamar

1313
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Speaker 8: has basically said, Hey, it's up to me to be

1314
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Speaker 8: a leader. I spoke to the team after the game

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Speaker 8: on Monday. I understand I've got a captain's patch of

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Speaker 8: my jersey, I've got a big contract, and I understand

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Speaker 8: that I have to take a new leadership role with

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Speaker 8: Joe out and with Sam Hubbard not here and Von

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Speaker 8: Bell and all those guys out the door. So I

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Speaker 8: give Jamar credit because he's saying and doing all the

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01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 8: right things. He's not afraid to go up to Zach

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Speaker 8: Taylor and say, hey, these are things we.

1323
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: Need to do better.

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Speaker 8: He's not afraid to say that to the team either,

1325
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 8: and it means a lot when that's the guy who's

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Speaker 8: doing it in Jamar Chase. So from the receiver specifically,

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Speaker 8: I haven't seen that sort of disconnect yet, and I

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01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 8: hope that we don't see it. But from some of

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Speaker 8: the other guys, I could definitely see that it felt

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Speaker 8: like there was a different level of effort than what

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Speaker 8: we've seen when things have gone awry. In the past.

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Speaker 8: I think that is probably the most alarming thing for

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01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 8: Zach Taylor. But if Jamar Chase is the guy leading

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Speaker 8: the charge to maybe nip that in the bud, that

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Speaker 8: could be a good thing, especially if it happens early in.

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Speaker 1: All right, AUNI other side of the ball here, much

1337
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: like people are clamoring for get rid of Jake Brown

1338
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: and get Russ Wilson, give me Kirk Cousins, give me

1339
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: Jameis Winstone of the Bengals want to give up draft

1340
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: capital for Kirk Cousins, who would be probably the tallest

1341
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Speaker 1: person in that group. On the other side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: there are people going, well, you know, Christian Wilkins is available,

1343
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: you can get him on the d line. That may

1344
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: help with the run. That may help you. That's gonna

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01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: help it a lot. Yeah, but there's a reason why

1346
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: the Raiders of all teams gave up on Christian Wilkins.

1347
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: Do you want that cancer in the locker room? No?

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Speaker 8: I mean, there's nobody else has gotten him either. He's

1349
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 8: had an injury the reason why, and he's he lost

1350
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 8: a lot of money for stuff that hasn't come to

1351
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 8: light yet, which probably will one day. And and it'll

1352
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 8: make a lot of sense as to why he's not

1353
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 8: not on a football team right now. To be honest,

1354
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 8: though I haven't heard a lot of clamoring for people

1355
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 8: to go and improve the defense. I do think most

1356
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 8: people feel like it's a work in progress, and they

1357
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 8: have been put in some difficult situations with the amount

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Speaker 8: of turnovers that the offense has had and the lack

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Speaker 8: of moving the ball and possessing the ball that the

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Speaker 8: offense has had. I still think there are pieces there

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01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 8: that are flashing at times. I liked what I saw

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Speaker 8: from Dax Hill on Monday. We'll see if Shamar Stewart

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01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 8: comes back this week or next, but he looked good

1364
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Speaker 8: when he was healthy. I saw a little bit from

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01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 8: Joseph Osai. Trey Hendrickson really hasn't done much, but there

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01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 8: are still young players, young pieces that are developing. We'll

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01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 8: see how it goes over the course of the next

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01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 8: couple of weeks. With Al Golden, I always thought that

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Speaker 8: the first month, month and a half the season was

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01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 8: going to be a work in progress for them, while

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01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 8: they get their legs under them and they figure out,

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Speaker 8: you know, the different stuff that Al Golden can install

1373
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 8: and the different ways to attack a specific offense, So

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01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 8: we'll see how it goes. I've not totally given up

1375
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 8: on the defense yet.

1376
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, and on that Joe Burrow was covering for

1377
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: a lot of that until this defense could get better

1378
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: and get their legs under them. And now with Joe

1379
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: Burrow being gone, now they've kind of exposed to that degree.

1380
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: But there's some people here depending on to be pretty serviceable,

1381
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: if not good, this season much better. How disappointing that

1382
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: is Cam Taylor.

1383
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 8: Brittain, Yeah, I mean massive disappointment in every way shape

1384
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 8: and for him now, had the hamstring injury last week,

1385
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 8: didn't practice very much, had been sick all that, but

1386
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 8: it didn't matter. I mean, before he got hurt, he

1387
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 8: was not playing well. We've seen a stretch of really

1388
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 8: good play from Cam Taylor Bridge for like ten or

1389
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 8: twelve games in his career, and that's really it.

1390
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Speaker 1: It's been a mixed.

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Speaker 8: Bag and mostly a bad bag of play after that.

1392
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 8: And so he's a massive disappointment to go along with

1393
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 8: a laundry list of massive disappointments and draft picks over

1394
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,479
Speaker 8: the last couple of years. And what's most disappointing about

1395
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 8: Cam is that you know he's got the athleticism to

1396
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 8: be able to play in this league, and especially to

1397
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 8: be able to play the outside corner position, but his

1398
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 8: fundamentals do not look good. He appears to be stiff,

1399
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 8: he's slow at the top of routes, and teams target him,

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01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 8: and when he's on the field, he's an absolute liability.

1401
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 8: And you saw that the way that the Broncos went

1402
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 8: after him basically in five snaps on Monday night, and

1403
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 8: it was so bad that the Bengals had.

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01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: To pull Yeah, all right, I'm looking at the line

1405
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: here and Bengals ten point underdogs if Austin Elmore. Let's

1406
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: say that they get blown out and I'm talking another

1407
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: embarrassing loss to the Detroit Lions, which a lot of

1408
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: teams are going to get blown out of a lot

1409
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: of teams have been blown out Detroit. But I mean ugly, ugly, ugly.

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Speaker 1: You now have a pattern here. Does that cost them

1411
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: on a job at this point? Should have cost them

1412
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 1: on a job at this point?

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Speaker 8: At this point, I would say no, that I don't

1414
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 8: think it would. I would say that it probably should,

1415
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 8: but I don't know that it would.

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01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: At this point.

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Speaker 8: To me, the big game is going to be the

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Speaker 8: Pittsburgh Steelers game. Now, the Bengals are going to be

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Speaker 8: heavy underdogs in the next two this one against Detroit

1420
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Speaker 8: and then at green.

1421
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: Bay next week.

1422
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Speaker 8: Then they come back after green Bay short week Thursday

1423
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 8: night football at home, the white Bengal whiteout game against

1424
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 8: the Pittsburgh Steelers. If they are embarrassed against Pittsburgh in

1425
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 8: that game, a team that you're certainly on par with

1426
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 8: and are good enough to beat, and at home on

1427
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 8: a short week on a Thursday, then I would be

1428
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 8: surprised if there aren't heads rolling after that if they

1429
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 8: get embarrassed in that game as well.

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Speaker 1: All right, real quick, because there is some bright light

1431
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: here as far as sports goes. And that's three and one.

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Speaker 1: You see Brandon Soresby balled out against Kansas last week,

1433
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: Big twelve home opener for UC at Knipper tomorrow at

1434
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 1: noon here on seven hundred WW, number fourteen Iowa State

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Speaker 1: comes into town. That's a number fourteen team, and Cincinnati

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01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: really should be all over them because of the injuries. Yeah,

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01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: that's right.

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01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 8: I mean most of Iowa State's defense is injured. And

1439
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 8: you mentioned Brendan Sorosby is playing really good football, right, now.

1440
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 8: The receivers were the big talking point coming into this season,

1441
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 8: that the Bearcats got faster and stronger and bigger at

1442
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 8: their wide receiver position, and that the offense has certainly

1443
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 8: started to hum over the last couple of weeks, and

1444
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 8: so with so many injuries to Iowa State, even though

1445
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 8: they're ranked number fourteen in the country, the Bearcats are favored.

1446
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: At home and that is a big deal.

1447
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 8: And if Soworsby continues to play that he has, and

1448
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 8: most importantly, if the offensive line continues to play that

1449
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 8: they have, you want to talk about the exact opposite

1450
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,799
Speaker 8: end of the spectrum of the Bengals. The Bearcats offensive

1451
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 8: line has allowed one sack all year, and the sack

1452
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 8: that they allowed really wasn't their fault. It was just

1453
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 8: a good play by the defense. So you know, if

1454
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 8: they're able to keep protecting Brendan Soarsby, if they got

1455
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 8: that good run pass mix, and even with sowres be

1456
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 8: getting involved in the run game like, the Bearcats have

1457
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 8: a legitimate shot to knock off number fourteen Iowa State here.

1458
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 8: It really get things moving in the right direction for scott'sadderfield.

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Speaker 1: It should be a fun environment. I'm pick it up

1460
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: what you're putting down. You're saying, if you the Bengals,

1461
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 1: if you could take the Bearcats and have them play

1462
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: the Lions on Sunday, they'll lose, but they'll they'll perform

1463
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: better than the Bengals. Like I like that line. I

1464
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: think that Austin, Austin Elmore later today at noon from

1465
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Speaker 1: the Pallo Windows and Doors Broadcast Studio, where.

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01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,719
Speaker 8: We're gonna be at the Foundry home over in Oakley, Yes,

1467
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 8: and then tonight, Scott. Tonight, I'm gonna be in for

1468
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 8: Lance McAllister from six to nine on Sports Talk right

1469
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 8: there on this very station, seven hundred w WELW.

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01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna hear from.

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01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 8: Brendan soaresby a conversation he had with Tony Pike. We'll

1472
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 8: also get into the Reds as we finally and officially

1473
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 8: bury them, and a whole bunch more coming up six

1474
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 8: to nine as well tonight.

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01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: Fair enough, appreciate it, buddy, Thanks again, have a great

1476
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: show out there at the Foundry. Anyway, I got to

1477
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: get to a news update, Scott's loan show. Happy Friday.

1478
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: A lot to look forward to. Sports flies on Sunday.

1479
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: But you can be listening anyway, here on the Home

1480
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 1: of the Best Bengals coverage seven hundred w welw don't

1481
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: be back on said one hundred double l What are you?

1482
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 1: Eighteen veterans died by suicide America every single day. Seven

1483
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: of them are under the care of the VA, so

1484
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: they already getting care, which is a pretty frightening number.

1485
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 1: The numbers for women trending in the right direction, the

1486
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: numbers for men trending in the opposite direction. Not good.

1487
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: What's being done about this when it comes to veterans

1488
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: mental health services? And on the show again is Steve

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01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: Belso is the executive director of Clairmont County Veteran Services Commission,

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Speaker 1: and also Lisa Listen, who's suicide prevention counselor at Listen TVA. Welcome, good,

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Speaker 1: how are you guys.

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Speaker 10: It's great to have Lisa here with me today to

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Speaker 10: tackle this all important subject.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty frightening because we have those stats. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't twenty I think at one time, and only eighteen.

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Speaker 1: But why are men going up and women going down?

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Speaker 1: I guess at Lisa, that'd be a good.

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Speaker 6: Question for Well, I think you have to remember there

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Speaker 6: are more men in the military or that were served

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Speaker 6: in the military than there are women, so of course

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Speaker 6: that's going to raise the number somewhat. And you know,

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Speaker 6: with men, we really know that their identity, especially in

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Speaker 6: the military, and then transitioning home can be quite difficult

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Speaker 6: because oftentimes they they see themselves as you know, the

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Speaker 6: breadwinner and that you know, they need to be the

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Speaker 6: one that's kind of leading the family and providing for

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Speaker 6: their family. And when they transition out the military sometimes

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Speaker 6: that's very, very difficult because they have a hard time

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Speaker 6: transitioning between what I did in the military and how

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Speaker 6: does that transpose to the community and what job I'm

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Speaker 6: going to have there. So they really struggle with that.

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Speaker 6: Plus they lose their connection with what they saw as

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Speaker 6: their family of sorts in the military, and so then

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Speaker 6: they become very disconnected. And then when they come home,

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Speaker 6: sometimes their relationships have dissolved for one reason or another

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Speaker 6: with some of their family members, whether a spouse or

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Speaker 6: another family member, and so they're dealing with a lot

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Speaker 6: of different stressors, not just what happened in the military,

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Speaker 6: but then what was going on at home. Sometimes there's

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Speaker 6: a disconnect there as well.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Steve, you saw this first hand for all your

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Speaker 1: years of the military as well. Is certainly PTSD has

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Speaker 1: a lot to do this we'll talk about that. But

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Speaker 1: also the fact that the real world doesn't run the

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Speaker 1: way it does in the military. Now, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: less accountability in the real world. That's a problem in it,

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Speaker 1: but it is.

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Speaker 11: It is, right.

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Speaker 10: So there's there's a big divide between active duty service

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Speaker 10: and there's an expectation that if Jones doesn't show up

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Speaker 10: for formation today, somebody go find Jones. Yeah, if Jones

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Speaker 10: doesn't show up for work, just don't log him in.

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Speaker 10: He's going to get doctor daypey right right, get fired

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Speaker 10: right right. So even still though my time, my thirty

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Speaker 10: years on active duty, I've had a lot of friends

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Speaker 10: commit suicide. It is a I don't want to say

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Speaker 10: it's a byproduct of combat. For the most part, PTSD

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Speaker 10: happens not just in combat. It could be a horrific accident,

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Speaker 10: somebody saw rights, it's some other dynamic that's created in

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Speaker 10: the brain that causes an extreme fear that they can't

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Speaker 10: climb away from right. And I will tell you after

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Speaker 10: even sending my marines into extensive counseling, even where they

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Speaker 10: stay in for weeks in the counselings and I still

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Speaker 10: end up losing a marine. Just drives you to the

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Speaker 10: pit of your heart that you could not get ahead

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Speaker 10: of them and what they're struggling with.

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Speaker 1: A part of this too, I guess you call it

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Speaker 1: the deadly gap, right, Steve, is that you have the

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Speaker 1: time where you're listed, you're a military, you get services

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Speaker 1: all around your your overwhelmed with that stuff. If you

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Speaker 1: did something's wrong, you gonna go okay by the time

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Speaker 1: you you wind up being discharged, not really discharged, and

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Speaker 1: by the time your VA benefits and you figure all

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Speaker 1: that stuff out. There's a gap there. That's also huge

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Speaker 1: deal is because we lose so many veterans because they

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Speaker 1: don't know what to do. They're not being told what

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Speaker 1: to do. That's part of that discan between transition military

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Speaker 1: and the real world.

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Speaker 10: There is so on a military just say we're talking

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Speaker 10: about there is a daily I've got eyes on we

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Speaker 10: call it, right, I've got eyes on Jones, I've got

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Speaker 10: eyes on Smith, I've got eyes on Johnson.

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Speaker 1: There's a hierarchy of command. You guys are working out

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Speaker 1: for the.

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Speaker 10: But there's also in the family set. If I came

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Speaker 10: to work at seven hundred every day. I know Scott

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Speaker 10: Sloan and his attitude every day. But the minute Scott

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Speaker 10: Sloane starts hiding back here in his office, Sloaney doesn't

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Speaker 10: come out and get coffee. Sloaney's not laughing with us

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Speaker 10: in his usual character. I'm going something's changed about Sloaney.

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Speaker 10: Let me go tap Sloani. What's going on, brother?

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Speaker 1: Right right?

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Speaker 4: And that's the way it works.

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Speaker 10: In the military, we know our teams and we know

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Speaker 10: their conduct, we know their attitude. So when things start

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Speaker 10: to shift, it's an immediate comere. What's going on right right?

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Speaker 10: And in the civilian world, I now transition back to

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Speaker 10: being a civilian. There's nobody with eyes on me every

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Speaker 10: day except my family, and sometimes the family's intimidated to

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Speaker 10: ask Steve what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Right? Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I get that. I get that whole thing, all right,

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Speaker 1: So so Steve Belso back to Lisa. Listen, when when

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Speaker 1: you see someone at the VA, who's going to typically

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Speaker 1: who presents what are the what are the symptoms? Why

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Speaker 1: are they there?

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Speaker 6: Well, it can be a number of different symptoms, but

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Speaker 6: most often somebody will come in and they might be expressing,

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Speaker 6: you know, I feel really hopeless about my situation in life,

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Speaker 6: or they might come out and say, hey, I'm I'm

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Speaker 6: having suicidal thoughts, and then we work to really help

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Speaker 6: that veteran and help them in areas that they need.

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Speaker 6: So what it is, what is it that is uh

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Speaker 6: they are struggling with. It could be addiction, which is

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Speaker 6: a huge risk factor for veterans and you know people

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Speaker 6: in the general population, but if they're having trouble with

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Speaker 6: some type of addiction, oftentimes they don't know what the

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Speaker 6: services are that are available to them. And once we

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Speaker 6: tell them, hey, we have methodone treatment available, we have inpatient,

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Speaker 6: we have residential treatment that we can help you with

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Speaker 6: your addiction. Or it could be that they're having relationship issues,

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Speaker 6: so it could be with a spouse and so we

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Speaker 6: will get them engaged in that type of care. Or

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Speaker 6: it could be that they really do need to be

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Speaker 6: admitted to the hospital, to our inpatient psychiatric unit just

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Speaker 6: to get a break, to actually be able to focus

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Speaker 6: on what are the issues going on, and then we

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Speaker 6: can help them and building the supports for them. So

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Speaker 6: they present in a number of different ways. What's really

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Speaker 6: awesome about the VA is we have open access, which

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Speaker 6: means that you can walk in to any clinic and say, hey,

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Speaker 6: I'm really struggling, I need to talk to someone, or

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Speaker 6: I'm having suicidal thoughts, and we'll help you with whatever

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Speaker 6: clinic you're in. It doesn't matter what clinic you're in.

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Speaker 6: You can get open access where a counselor or a

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Speaker 6: social worker psychiatrist will meet with you and work with

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Speaker 6: you on whatever the problem is.

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Speaker 4: All right, So let's pull that apart a little bit slowly.

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Speaker 10: There's even where recently, maybe what year and a half,

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Speaker 10: two years ago, the Compact Act was approved, and what

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Speaker 10: the Compact Deck did is remove some veterans have a

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Speaker 10: stigma with the VA. But it removed that stigma and

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Speaker 10: stead that veteran can go to any hospital or physician

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Speaker 10: to receive that care good and receive up to ninety

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Speaker 10: days of care. So it's not just hey we're gonna

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Speaker 10: take you down to the VA, right, Mom or dad,

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Speaker 10: you can take your son or daughter to try Health

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Speaker 10: Sat Elizabeth Christ Hospital, right, and it's get with your

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Speaker 10: service or your county service officer.

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Speaker 4: We file the paperwork. There's ninety days of support for

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Speaker 4: your loved one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good to know. Again, it's just Steve Belso from

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Speaker 1: Climat County Veteran Service Commission and Lisa Listen and she's

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Speaker 1: a suicide prevention coordinator at the sin CVA, talking about

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Speaker 1: veterans suicide rate and what can be done. And certainly

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Speaker 1: a lot has been put into making sure that we're

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Speaker 1: getting the health care for our veterans. That's eemingly possible.

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Speaker 1: But for a family member, Lisa, that that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the hardest part is identifying the problem, but getting is,

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Speaker 1: to Steve's point, getting them the care they need because

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Speaker 1: you tend to be a little bit stubborn, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: if someone else needs to care more than I do,

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Speaker 1: I don't need it. I'm fined. How do you do that?

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Speaker 6: So there's a couple of things to remember as a

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Speaker 6: family member. First of all, we want to educate family

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Speaker 6: members on what are the warning signs so they actually

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Speaker 6: are aware that if a person is expressing I feel

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Speaker 6: hopeless or I feel like there's no way out, they

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Speaker 6: might be escalating their alcohol or drug use, they might

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Speaker 6: be expressing lots of anxiety or rage and anger. Those

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Speaker 6: can all be warning signs. So the first step is

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Speaker 6: really what we have now as a public health strategy

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Speaker 6: where we want to educate everyone in the community to

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Speaker 6: try to get upstream with the veteran, so to notice

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Speaker 6: those warning signs before something happens. Unfortunately, for many years,

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Speaker 6: you know, it was until we knew about the crisis

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Speaker 6: and now we're ready to help. But if we can

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Speaker 6: educate our community to say, hey, here are the issues,

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Speaker 6: here are the warning signs, and then we can help

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Speaker 6: that person. So that's the first thing. The second thing

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Speaker 6: is to let the family members know that they have

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Speaker 6: twenty four hours support. If they believe that their veteran

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Speaker 6: is struggling, they're in a suicidal crisis, they can call

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Speaker 6: the Veteran's Crisis Line, which is the nine eight eight,

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Speaker 6: and then you press one of your veteran or family

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Speaker 6: member or a veteran. It's free and you don't then

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Speaker 6: have to be the evaluator. You don't have to try

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Speaker 6: to decide this is should I be worried about this

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Speaker 6: or not. You can talk to the responder and most

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Speaker 6: often the responder will say, hey, can we talk to

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Speaker 6: the veteran, and then they'll do the immediate response and

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Speaker 6: help the veteran then get to where they need to

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Speaker 6: be and what's really nice about nine eight eight Press

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Speaker 6: one is then if the veteran agrees, we then are

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Speaker 6: received that phone number in that veteran's name, and at

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Speaker 6: the Cincinnati VA we call that veteran within twenty four

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Speaker 6: hours and we continue to help them to make sure

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Speaker 6: that they're getting the services they need and get them

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Speaker 6: engaged in the care they need.

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Speaker 1: All right, then it all starts with a call to

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Speaker 1: your county Veteran Services Commission like you and Clairemont County,

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Speaker 1: Steve Belso and your team ready to go. You put

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Speaker 1: her in touch with folks like Lisa and get them

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Speaker 1: the help they need. But there shouldn't be a stigma

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Speaker 1: of shame. I do something in my show is called

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Speaker 1: Mental Health Monday. Every Monday we do a segment with

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Speaker 1: a licensed mental health therapist and she's wonderful. We get

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Speaker 1: a lot of input, people of questions, and there's still

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Speaker 1: a stigma involved with us. I would imagine it's probably

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Speaker 1: more so true in the military than anywhere.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely there is there is one. We have to break

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Speaker 4: this down to the common denominator.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 10: We tend to talk about suicide and facets, right and

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Speaker 10: how this looks, But the fact is anywhere in life.

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Speaker 10: Life wants to grow, Life wants to live. I cut

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Speaker 10: down a tree last week. It's already setting up new shoots. Right,

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Speaker 10: Wait a minute, I cut the tree down. It is

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Speaker 10: in the design the DNA of life on this earth

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Speaker 10: to live. And if somebody decides they want to die,

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Speaker 10: it's a sickness, it's a disease.

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Speaker 4: Something has happened.

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Speaker 10: It is not a quitter mentality that people tend to

1704
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,520
Speaker 10: tagline it with because they don't understand.

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01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 4: And it happens on active duty. Oh, he's just a quitter.

1706
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:15,759
Speaker 10: No, something broke right, It is not natural for somebody

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01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 10: to want to die. So that's number one two nine

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01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 10: eight eight. Press one is step one. If you can

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Speaker 10: get your veteran to talk to another veteran a nine

1710
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 10: eight eight, and then press one is a veteran on

1711
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 10: the other side of the line, start the initial conversation.

1712
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 4: That is not the end conversation.

1713
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 10: It needs to carry on to a licensed physician healthcare

1714
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 10: in the mental health side that can sit with Johnson

1715
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 10: Jones Smith and start pulling it back because you need

1716
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 10: to know what the very base layer of the issue is.

1717
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 10: A lot of times there's extra brainious things going on

1718
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 10: the attitude. I've become still, I've become reclues, but still

1719
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 10: yet there's something else deeper and a lot of For men,

1720
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 10: they don't want to give that up because they don't

1721
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 10: want to seem weak.

1722
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 1: Which is probably why you see higher suicide rates per

1723
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: capita in men than women, because women are we'll talk,

1724
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: we'll open Guys we shut up. We want to talk

1725
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 1: about sports and yeah, everything's fine, don't worry about it.

1726
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 1: Leave me alone.

1727
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 4: I'm tough. Leave me alone.

1728
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I self medicate more than anyone else.

1729
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,560
Speaker 10: Well, which is why Lisa is talking about all of

1730
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 10: the drugs. The addictions start because of what the very

1731
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 10: based foundation is that's going on with the suicidal ideations.

1732
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 4: Now I'm going to start self medicating.

1733
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: We also have learned a lot when it comes to

1734
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 1: suicide prevention and who is inclined to were predisposed to

1735
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 1: be suicidal? Right, So there's a reach VET program I

1736
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 1: think is what you call it, And that's all it's AI.

1737
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 1: It's predictive modeling and you can predict who's more like

1738
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: I guarantee it, but more likely to be suicidal or

1739
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: commit suicide than other members. How's that work?

1740
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Speaker 6: Right? So? Yeah, I'm actually the Reach VET program coordinator

1741
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 6: as well, and you're right. It is predictive modeling. And

1742
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 6: what they do is they pull from the veterans charts

1743
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 6: and they have like four hundred different risk factors that

1744
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 6: could put that person at risk for suicide, and then

1745
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 6: they take the top one percent in the facility that

1746
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 6: meet that criteria. Those names are sent to me and

1747
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 6: then I'd either contact them or if they have a

1748
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 6: provider already, the provider contacts them and tries to get

1749
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 6: them engaged in care. So it's another way to figure out, Okay,

1750
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 6: how can we reach veterans who maybe we wouldn't know

1751
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 6: about because they didn't say they were suicidal, but there

1752
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 6: were all these risk factors.

1753
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 1: How do you have that conversation with the VET Because

1754
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden my phone rings, it's you and Lisa.

1755
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, we think you know you're suicidal. I am,

1756
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 1: that's news to me. How do you brotech conversation?

1757
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 6: You're right, I do call them and I explain to

1758
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 6: them what this program really is. That what we're trying

1759
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 6: to do is look at what are all your risk factors?

1760
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 6: So when you go to the doctor, right, they might

1761
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 6: say you are at risk for a heart attack. Does

1762
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 6: it mean you're going to have art attack? No, but

1763
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 6: here are some signs that tell us if you keep

1764
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,600
Speaker 6: eating the way you're eating right, you're probably going to

1765
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 6: have a heart attack. So we work with them in

1766
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 6: that way. I talk to them about that and I

1767
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 6: compare it to any other risk factor for different things,

1768
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 6: and then I explain to them, so what I want

1769
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 6: to check in with you about is have you been

1770
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 6: having any suicidal thoughts? And then that way, I can,

1771
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 6: you know, start the conversation about are you at risk?

1772
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 2: Now?

1773
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 6: Sometimes they say, well, now I'm not suicidal, that's great.

1774
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 6: Is there anything else we can do that would be

1775
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 6: helpful to you? So though even though they are not suicidal, again,

1776
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 6: this is getting more upstream, right, so we're saying, okay,

1777
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 6: but we still see these risk factors. Are there things

1778
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 6: going on in your life that we might be able

1779
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 6: to help you with?

1780
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 1: Okay?

1781
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 6: And so they might share that.

1782
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 1: Are they pretty responsive?

1783
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 11: Usually?

1784
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, Usually they really appreciate that somebody is checking in

1785
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 6: to see how they're doing.

1786
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 1: If you have somebody on your side, right.

1787
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 6: That somebody's kind of looking out for me, you know,

1788
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 6: and are noticing things that maybe I don't even notice myself,

1789
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 6: or I might think, well, I shouldn't say anything because

1790
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 6: you know, I'm strong and I shouldn't say that I'm

1791
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 6: having a problem with this area. So it really normalizes in

1792
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 6: a way. Hey, lots of people have suicidal thoughts. Lots

1793
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 6: of people go under a tremendous amount of stress and

1794
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 6: sometimes they have suicidal thoughts, and we want to be

1795
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 6: able to help you with that. So yeah, it's been

1796
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 6: it's been a wonderful program.

1797
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 1: See belso with the Claremont County Veteran Services Commission. So

1798
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: if someone's a veteran family member of a veteran and

1799
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: maybe you think there's something going on here you need help,

1800
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 1: just reach out to you guys in Claremont County or

1801
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 1: whatever county it is you're listening in, and we get

1802
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: the same level of help in all the counties or

1803
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 1: just years.

1804
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 10: That is, that is one of two, right, we can

1805
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 10: help stare in the right direction. Yes, that is every

1806
01:26:55,840 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 10: county in Ohio. The fastest way is press one. Got it,

1807
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 10: it's easy, it's sticky, it's it's it's not a ten

1808
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 10: digit number and you're trying to Oh my gosh, I

1809
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 10: missed it nine eight eight. If a civilian stop there,

1810
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,719
Speaker 10: there's someone there to talk to you. If you're a veteran,

1811
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 10: it will tell you in the voice recording press one

1812
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 10: and that route you to another veteran that's on the

1813
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 10: other side of the outstanding.

1814
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 4: It's a great program.

1815
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 10: Now let's let's be honest, though, Sony, all of this programming,

1816
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:32,759
Speaker 10: we still don't have the cure all for suicide. Numbers

1817
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 10: are going down phenomenal. In Claremont County. My numbers have risen,

1818
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 10: though nationally we're going down. So sometimes we have to

1819
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 10: look for factors in the community, why is this happening

1820
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 10: in my county? But then even on active duty setting marines,

1821
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 10: they're way for two three weeks constant care under a

1822
01:27:55,840 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 10: physician's care, and then released and then it's they start

1823
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 10: unspooling again.

1824
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 9: Right.

1825
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 10: There are some horrific scenes that the military members have

1826
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 10: to go through. That's just war, and sometimes you can't

1827
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 10: get ahead of them. And they're still One of my

1828
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,639
Speaker 10: marines called in and he's telling his buddies goodbye after

1829
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 10: spending over probably two months at the healthcare in house

1830
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:22,600
Speaker 10: in the hospital, and the senior leader says, hang on

1831
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 10: I'm going to get this R major on the phone.

1832
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 10: He says, no, he'll stop me, and then hung up

1833
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 10: the phone. Oh god, they are determined, right, It's just

1834
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 10: the weight becomes so heavy and so really it's early

1835
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 10: identification and getting ahead of this so you can move

1836
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 10: it away before it's a millstone where they believe it

1837
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 10: cannot be right.

1838
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 1: Something like forty percent of the veterans comming EXSUTI that

1839
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: under care of a VA physician, and that's that's frightening.

1840
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 1: But again nine eight eight plus one is the number

1841
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,759
Speaker 1: regardless of where you are. But again it's Steve Belso,

1842
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 1: Claremont County Veteran Service Commission on lease a listed of

1843
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: course of the TV. Thanks so much for this uh

1844
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 1: and update and and just getting the word out to

1845
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 1: help people. Thank I appreciate it. Thank you, thanks for

1846
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 1: having us.

1847
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 4: So if you're a veteran listening, your life matters, it

1848
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 4: does does.

1849
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 1: Thanks again, appreciate you. Scott's Loan Show continues seven hundred

1850
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 1: wo The weekends coming on and you need to make

1851
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: the most of it. Where to go and what to do.

1852
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 1: She has the tips and insight to help you make

1853
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 1: it a super weekend. So listen up. This is the

1854
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,560
Speaker 1: Local Loop with Ali Martin on seven hundred.

1855
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Speaker 9: W l W.

1856
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 1: Yes, yes we are, but yes we're bad. I'm back.

1857
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 1: Feel here, feel old Scooter, Scott.

1858
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 11: I'm calling you, Scooter.

1859
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 1: Scott, scooter and crutches. I got it all going on.

1860
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 11: You shoulder your legs, man, aren't you? Okay? That is

1861
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 11: the question.

1862
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 1: Well, when you get to my advanced stage, after all

1863
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 1: the athletic stuff you've done in your life, I'm going

1864
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 1: to tell you something. It gets fun. You're just so

1865
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: all the osteothritis stuff just yeah, when you get in

1866
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 1: the wrong side of fifty, it's it all starts on.

1867
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 1: But you know what far worse things I could have.

1868
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:08,799
Speaker 1: I'm blessed.

1869
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 11: Are you feeling better though?

1870
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:10,679
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1871
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, making small improvement stuff like that. So foot still

1872
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,919
Speaker 1: hurts a little bit, but I've got my giant protective

1873
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 1: buddhan and my crutches. Some hobbling all over.

1874
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 9: Do you feel like you're getting pity when you're walking

1875
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 9: around and hobbling around?

1876
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 11: Like do people actually pay attention to you? And like, oh,

1877
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 11: let's open the.

1878
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 1: Door around here? Are you kidding?

1879
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 12: Okay, I'm just curious. Maybe there could be something around here,

1880
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 12: it's what's your problem? They're gonna catch what I have. Like,

1881
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:38,640
Speaker 12: it's not communical bullets.

1882
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 11: This is bad. This just makes you grundier.

1883
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's all good though.

1884
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 5: Uh.

1885
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 1: And I come back not only to you, but a

1886
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:46,679
Speaker 1: very special guest.

1887
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 9: Yes, Rogers brought into special guest, washed up meteorologist.

1888
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1889
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 9: You might have heard his voice before on the station

1890
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 9: several times, whether it's talking about the weather or talking

1891
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 9: about whiskey.

1892
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 11: Friend Brandon about that this battery died this morning. So

1893
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 11: part of the reason.

1894
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 1: Why, Okay, I thought there was a euphemism for something. Yeah,

1895
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 1: I got a doctor gets just a medicine from that.

1896
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 1: But happy to be here. Forecast looks good this weekend.

1897
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 11: Huh.

1898
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: Sure doesn't here about that anymore now. So yeah, you

1899
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 1: you and I've had you on before in the past

1900
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 1: and talking about where where weather intercedes with bourbon so

1901
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 1: dusk whiskey weather, and people go, how the hell.

1902
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 13: Has that come together? They're parallel, right. Without the weather,

1903
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 13: you don't have the whiskey. If you don't have that

1904
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 13: heat cycling, you don't have the coloring of the whiskey,

1905
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 13: you don't have the aging of the whiskey.

1906
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: It's just clear liquid in a barrel. Is that why

1907
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: they don't make whiskey in Arizona? They do make it,

1908
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 1: it's just not how good the weather never changes there

1909
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 1: like San Diego. It's always a contro to staff for sure.

1910
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 1: I suppose yeh. It's hot and up and down.

1911
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's what makes it good the state.

1912
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:03,679
Speaker 1: So the higher the greater temperature disparity in weather cycles,

1913
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 1: the better the bourbon, you would think. So not always.

1914
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 13: It's there's a whole lot of different factors, but the

1915
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 13: weather does have a big impact in it, like that

1916
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 13: with the the I call it heat cycle. Some people

1917
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 13: will just call it heat seasons. But the more in

1918
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:18,599
Speaker 13: and out of the barrel that you can get between

1919
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:20,759
Speaker 13: the heat and cold cycles, the better the whiskey.

1920
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 1: I love the science of that too. That's just fascinating

1921
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 1: to me. Like you, Jefferson's ocean is gimmicky, but you

1922
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 1: think about it like that's really interesting because it's traveling

1923
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 1: in a boat around the words, getting sloshed around for

1924
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 1: a year, and it's going to different climates and stuff

1925
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 1: like that.

1926
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, you're not only adding the climate element, you're also

1927
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 9: adding the physical movement.

1928
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so it's slashing stuff around and there, just like.

1929
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 13: That Metallica one where they're doing that music. They're playing

1930
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 13: music through the entire ricout to let the vibrations create

1931
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 13: the issues in the barrels that bring the whiskey in.

1932
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 1: And out right. That could be a gimmick too.

1933
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 9: But yeah, the Metallica whiskey was not good, respectfully on marketing.

1934
01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 1: She said it.

1935
01:32:58,520 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was not good.

1936
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 9: Respect You missed out because you were I think you

1937
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:03,679
Speaker 9: were undergoing surgery at that time. We were at Kentucky

1938
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,640
Speaker 9: Bourbon Festival too. I had a chance. I actually have

1939
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 9: it on my list. Here is a couple whiskey whiskey

1940
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 9: picks of the week.

1941
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 11: Okay, I guess we can just start.

1942
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 1: Why don't we start with that.

1943
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 11: Let's start with that.

1944
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:14,719
Speaker 1: Let's jump right so again Zally Martin local Loop brandes

1945
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 1: spinners here and does whiskey Weather and I've talked about

1946
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 1: everything to eat, se do, and especially drink this weekend

1947
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. Believe me, if you're going down to the

1948
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:25,639
Speaker 1: Bengals game, you need to start drinking now.

1949
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:26,639
Speaker 11: Right now.

1950
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 9: And if you want to pick up a bottle of

1951
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 9: something a little different, this is my whiskey pick of

1952
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 9: the week. It's Burton James. Have you ever heard of

1953
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 9: Burton James.

1954
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:38,599
Speaker 1: I think there's like a bass player for like deep purple,

1955
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 1: wasn't it.

1956
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 9: Now he did play baseball, all right, not a bass player.

1957
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:47,480
Speaker 9: So down at Kentucky Bourbon Festival, which happens in Bartstown

1958
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 9: every year, really fun time. I mean dozens and dozens

1959
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 9: of distilleries.

1960
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:53,679
Speaker 11: You have five sixty five.

1961
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 9: You have your big distilleries, but then you also have

1962
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 9: your fun little craft distilleries and that's usually where those

1963
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 9: hidden gems are. And one of the best things do

1964
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:01,760
Speaker 9: is try to, you know, go around talk to the

1965
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 9: owners and I hopefully maybe find a pick that you

1966
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 9: would be pleasantly surprised. Okay, this one out of came

1967
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 9: out of left field, U pun intended. Is Burton James,

1968
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 9: as I said, And the foundation in the background of

1969
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 9: this is it's based off of a great grandfather, but

1970
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 9: more importantly at professional baseball player named Burton James, and

1971
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 9: the whole brand around it is based on baseball.

1972
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 11: So the branding, the labeling, it's cool.

1973
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 9: The labeling itself has you know that old school basically

1974
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 9: like a Wrigleyville scoreboard.

1975
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:33,720
Speaker 1: Yes, almost like a newspaper.

1976
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 9: Cool, all right, really cool, And they have a weeded,

1977
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 9: a ten year weeded, which I was so pleasantly surprised about.

1978
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:42,600
Speaker 11: They have two, they have a one o seven and

1979
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 11: they have one eleven.

1980
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 9: I walked away with the one oh seven and I

1981
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:49,240
Speaker 9: was not expecting I wasn't expecting anything from it, but

1982
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 9: it was I one came out of left field. And

1983
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 9: if you have a chance to check it out, it's

1984
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:56,639
Speaker 9: called Burton James b U R T O N James.

1985
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 1: All right, so people here wheeded bourbon and they think

1986
01:34:58,800 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 1: I was wheat.

1987
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,560
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's one of the ingredients. So in order for

1988
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 13: it to a just all wheat, no, in order to

1989
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 13: be awful. In order for it to be a bourbon,

1990
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 13: it has to be at least fifty one percent corn.

1991
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 13: So when they say it's a weeded bourbon, it's the

1992
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:13,680
Speaker 13: second highest ingredient within that mash bill. So if it's

1993
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 13: fifty one percent corn, you maybe have forty five percent wheat,

1994
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 13: and then the rest is made up of malted barley

1995
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 13: or whatever kind of grain. Usually they deal with multed barley.

1996
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 13: I think this one is fifty one percent corner wheat,

1997
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 13: four percent multed barley.

1998
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 1: All right, for those who don't know, that does what

1999
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 1: to the play the flavor of profile wheat sweet rye

2000
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 1: a little spicy.

2001
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 11: So yeah, this is a little bit more in the

2002
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 11: sweeter end.

2003
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:36,680
Speaker 9: I think we'd say the one O seven, the one

2004
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 9: that I walked away with has I mean you've tasted

2005
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:42,639
Speaker 9: as well, Brandon, but I feel like it has almost

2006
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 9: like a marshmallowy, creamy tone to it. And then we

2007
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 9: both were discussing it almost kind of also has it

2008
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:51,680
Speaker 9: starts with a little bit of that like McDonald's apple

2009
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:52,799
Speaker 9: apple pie crust.

2010
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, it's really it's quite lovely.

2011
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 1: Why don't they start making their shakes for that?

2012
01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, if it's that's the trick, it doesn't work.

2013
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't work.

2014
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 11: All right.

2015
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 1: So you're a little little about bourbon today as well.

2016
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 1: What was going on?

2017
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 6: All right?

2018
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 9: Well, the Donna Schwaben october Fest is happening because you

2019
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 9: also were out of remission. You were out for the

2020
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 9: real October Fest. I was so this weekend and you

2021
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,679
Speaker 9: missed it too. We did participate in the g.

2022
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 1: Gamesour couple over here.

2023
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 9: Yeow, the barrel rock steinhoisting racing.

2024
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 11: He came in first.

2025
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 1: I won the competition for second year in a row.

2026
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 1: I know about that.

2027
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 2: Well.

2028
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:33,560
Speaker 12: The lats on this guy, yo, you smoked everyone on

2029
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 12: October five.

2030
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 1: I al smoked my thumb. I thought I broke my

2031
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 1: thumb in the first race. Neither one of you has

2032
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 1: a slang or some sort of apparatus on like I do.

2033
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 1: So that's good.

2034
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 11: That's good.

2035
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 9: That's a good start. I thought you might have been

2036
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 9: walking away with a cast that day though.

2037
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:46,720
Speaker 1: I literally thought I broke my th if I came

2038
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 1: in here and you were wearing like a sling and

2039
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 1: because you you injured it in October cast, how'd you

2040
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 1: break your thumb? I rolling a barrel? I'm just stupid.

2041
01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:58,719
Speaker 1: You on the other hand's like, wait, doing what rolling

2042
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 1: the barrel? And was the hold the beer mug for

2043
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:01,719
Speaker 1: an hour?

2044
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 11: Racing against all the other local journalists.

2045
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 1: Got my stein? Yeah, the athleticism, journalism whatever it was?

2046
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:10,680
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, so he won that.

2047
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 9: I came in second for the stein hoisting race, quite

2048
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 9: proud of myself.

2049
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 11: There and thank you, thank you so much.

2050
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:20,759
Speaker 9: Practice, and we might as well just do it again because,

2051
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 9: as I said, the Donna Schwab in October Fest, the

2052
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,680
Speaker 9: thirty third anniversary and this is the one over in

2053
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 9: Cole Rain Township. It's happening today, tomorrow and Sunday. Pretty

2054
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 9: much an old day thing. Admissions five bucks, kids are free.

2055
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 9: There are shuttles that you know, we'll take it from

2056
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 9: Spot A to Spot B. And this is this is

2057
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:41,640
Speaker 9: the only October Fest that's actually in October.

2058
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, ground the most authentic because of it.

2059
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 1: I think the fact that you had the grounds that

2060
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 1: are dedicated to that annual event. Yeah, that's what it's

2061
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:50,719
Speaker 1: there for in Cold Race.

2062
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 9: Every single year. The thirty third. So here we go

2063
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 9: and over thirty five beers on draft. So of course

2064
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:59,680
Speaker 9: you're gonna have your class at october Fest beers. You're

2065
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 9: half of Vison and you'll have a hofsprow House and

2066
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 9: some of those big names there.

2067
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 1: Great weather for it too, Oh perfect, very perfect. Right,

2068
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 1: that's what they tell me. All the food.

2069
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 11: Is the guy who hasn't looked at them.

2070
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 1: There was a cue for the guy for them with

2071
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 1: a meteorology degree and certificates to come in and like, yeah,

2072
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 1: looks nice.

2073
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 13: I retired on the twenty seven of the main I

2074
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 13: think I've looked at the weather twice.

2075
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, what I say is useless now yeah, I have

2076
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 11: absolutely not.

2077
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 13: I can give you that forecast, not the forecast. Oh

2078
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 13: very clever.

2079
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 1: All right. So anyway, that's going on all this weekend.

2080
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 9: This is happening, and you can if you do want

2081
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 9: to participate in any sort of competition, Brandon, this might

2082
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,959
Speaker 9: be your thing. You could do a log song contest

2083
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:48,600
Speaker 9: because they're going to have that there as part of

2084
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 9: their entertainment.

2085
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 1: So is that one that the log is like up

2086
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 1: in the air and you got to cut it down

2087
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:56,040
Speaker 1: and let it fall. Have you seen those? No, you

2088
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 1: don't need to there's no climent. They've got to cut

2089
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 1: it down and it's got to fall.

2090
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:04,719
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, yeah. I thought was like, just how fast

2091
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 13: you can cut through the tree?

2092
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 1: You ever watch that on like ESPN eight on THEO

2093
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 1: or something like that, where that's the the it's stres incredible,

2094
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:11,839
Speaker 1: like the steel chainsaw.

2095
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,799
Speaker 11: Let's move a plane because you're like what.

2096
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 1: No, No, they climb. No, literally, the climb like a

2097
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 1: telephone pole. You got to cut the in certain sections.

2098
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 11: But they always do.

2099
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 9: What I'm saying is like they just do the weirdest competitions.

2100
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 1: I watch it and go I've not sit there for

2101
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:28,559
Speaker 1: like a good half hour watching it. They're actually pretty

2102
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 1: cool waiting for football or one of those watching You're

2103
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 1: still treating.

2104
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 12: Sucked down a hole watching this stuff and go and

2105
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:40,559
Speaker 12: then my mind goes, so people are training for this.

2106
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, cornhole is now. So we were at Cartridge Brewing.

2107
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: This is a while ago, and I must have been

2108
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 1: like cornhole league night. So they have indoor corn hoole

2109
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,639
Speaker 1: there and they're dudes in jerseys and one dude rolls

2110
01:39:57,640 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 1: in and I'm not kidding you, like you know how

2111
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 1: the howlers have like three a bag with the three bulls.

2112
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 1: He has a suitcase like it's corn hole. He's got

2113
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 1: the towing it's got wheels on it. Like, what what

2114
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 1: is it bringing in your cornhole bag?

2115
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 13: So when you say uniform, walk in like a NASCAR driver.

2116
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thank you. Yes. I don't know if there

2117
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 1: were any good but how many bags do you bring?

2118
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:23,679
Speaker 1: Like what what's the strategy with your carnhole bag?

2119
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 9: I don't know, pop for holy crap, colonels.

2120
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 1: And corner against the or hole redenbacker team. Yeah bad?

2121
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 1: You have three year olds have personal trainers for you know,

2122
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 1: for t ball and stuff like that. Just to get

2123
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 1: a little over the top and you're not a professional.

2124
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:42,760
Speaker 9: But these days you could make money off of I

2125
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 9: had an uber the other day where he was a

2126
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 9: professional bowler and he does it most of the year.

2127
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 11: I'm like, good for you.

2128
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 1: If you can make money off of absolutely at a

2129
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 1: bar on a Wednesday night, people are making money off

2130
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 1: playing cornhole. But you know, you got aspire to something.

2131
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 1: God bless you. It is.

2132
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 9: What else happened anyway, Well, let's talk about a fault

2133
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 9: and yards because we're talking about the weather and how

2134
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 9: nice it is with it being I personally think the

2135
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 9: best coffee shop in town for the fall. Why because

2136
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 9: not only it has this like yes, this is the

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Speaker 9: coffee grape, but it has this incredible patio where there's

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Speaker 9: an awning, there's a hangover, and then you can have

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Speaker 9: there's fans and you can.

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Speaker 11: Get a hangover to wish. We will get you.

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Speaker 9: They have huge TVs where you can watch any sports

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Speaker 9: that you want. Because we're speaking from experience, because we

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Speaker 9: have a Cubs fan sitting right next to.

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Speaker 1: Us were we watched the game last night.

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Speaker 11: Oh my gosh, but they have probably the.

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Speaker 1: Best Last night, Yeah, you want.

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Speaker 11: To talk about you were stressed. I was stressed out

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Speaker 11: watching you.

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Speaker 1: Was that a strike was terrible? Yeah, you were stressing.

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Speaker 1: I cannot be called that a strike.

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Speaker 11: Do you stress out, Scott when you watch games? Do

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Speaker 11: you pace?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, but I roll? Do you get like the

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Speaker 1: scooter on the setting to go crawling? Crawling Lunnie.

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Speaker 10: No.

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Speaker 9: But Fulton Yards it's off of Riverside Dry which I

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Speaker 9: did not mention, more like right on the river on.

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Speaker 11: The east side.

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Speaker 9: And it's a killer coffee shop, as I said, but

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Speaker 9: also is a great bar and incredible espresso martinis. They're

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Speaker 9: doing this pumpkin spice espresso martini right now. But they

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Speaker 9: also have a full lineup of fall cocktails that are incredible.

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Speaker 9: Everything from a spiced apple old fashion. We had that yesterday,

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Speaker 9: so good autumn in New York. It's Mezcal lemon simple

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Speaker 9: syrup hell fire bidders floated with a little red wine

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Speaker 9: and then they do a chill shy teeny So it's

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Speaker 9: Molly Wollman Cincinnati gin from Northern Row lemon mint and

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Speaker 9: then chai.

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Speaker 11: For the syrup.

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Speaker 9: It is so good, So best fall cocktail lineup that

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Speaker 9: I've seen in a while.

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Speaker 11: And they do trivia on.

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Speaker 9: Thuse days and it's off of Riverside Drive more on

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Speaker 9: the east side, so by Eli's Barbecue, and then right

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Speaker 9: next door is a place called high Mark.

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Speaker 11: Also really really good if you're looking for.

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Speaker 1: It's like a high melt. Is that what they called it?

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Speaker 11: High melt?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: And killer good Yeah, good wing.

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Speaker 1: Really good good good shells of soccer for an espresso

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Speaker 1: martini and a pumpkin spice espresso martini sheeting.

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Speaker 13: The espresso like some of these places, like we've gottenness

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Speaker 13: martini in there, but like espresso.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like this they're a coffee shop.

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Speaker 11: First.

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Speaker 1: Better if you're gonna have your coffee shop, you better

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Speaker 1: have a good espresso martini if you're doing that.

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Speaker 9: And also understanding the difference between the Bailey's and Kolula ratio,

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Speaker 9: because here's the thing, as I've realized.

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Speaker 11: I'm a Colulah girly, not a baby like the ba.

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Speaker 9: Splash because the Bailey's is what makes it extra creamy.

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Speaker 1: Bailey's out of a shoe.

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Speaker 11: Have you seen Bailey's really close?

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's some inside weird relationships stuff going on.

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Speaker 11: Have you ever seen that bit I have?

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Speaker 1: When we're done, look up, check that out. And we

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Speaker 1: are by the way, Brent's been good, see you, buddy.

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Speaker 1: the way. Willie follows after. I don't know it was

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Speaker 1: a red round up or Dan Horde. We'll find out

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Speaker 1: together here I know. Do we do have Bengals football

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Speaker 1: this weekend? We have you see Bearcat football tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: the Bengals here against the Detroit Lions. Bengals ten point

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