1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Now the Red Beret has returned to radio. Curtis lee 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Wall guest host The Mark Simone Show on sevent Tenor Oh, 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: I heard that update about Governor Schurell from a congresswoman. 4 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: She's going on a diner tour. Boy. Nobody is from 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Jack Ciarelli any longer. Remember he was the big maga 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: trumper guy this time around, third time around, and her 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: whole campaign was affordabilely, cost the living, and he washed. 8 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: But you don't hear from him at all. I don't 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: know what he plans on doing. I've known Jack. It's 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: a good candidate, but the voters were interested in, in course, 11 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: the living, affordability. That's what propelled Johann Mondamia New York 12 00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: and in other races where Democrats beat Republicans around the 13 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: country and maywell end up determining the fate of the 14 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: House of Representatives. You know, Trump, there was a fake 15 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: news fake note. Now it's all about oh no, affordability 16 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: courts of OLIVI yeah, yeah, okay, get on board. But 17 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: it reminds me of a great radio figure who was 18 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: here from time to time, the King of talk radio, 19 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: Bob Graham. He was here on two different occasions. But 20 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: when he was at WABC, was there I was at 21 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: that time, there was the woman trying to become governor. There, 22 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: Christine Todd Whitless. What the scratsiata what a shanda? Remember 23 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: she's the one who was the EPA chieftains for Bush 24 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: forty three and in the aftermath of the attack of 25 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: nine eleven said, oh, no toxins in the air. You 26 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: don't need gloves or masks or has matt suits just 27 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: in hale exl Look how many died, Look how many 28 00:01:54,720 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: still suffered. But anyway, at that time it was Governor Florio, 29 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: and Bob grand single handedly got her elected. He coined 30 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: the phrase Florio Free in ninety three. And Florio was 31 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: originally from Brooklyn. He worked in a butcher's shop, joined 32 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: the US Navy, and he was paving the way for 33 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: his reelection. He was raised in Texas. And Bob Grant 34 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: took Christine Todd wit Lists of Patrician by the hand, 35 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: took her on the bus tour from Camden County to 36 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: Hudson County, and of course the stopover at his favorite haunt, 37 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: the Rio Diner in Woodbridge, New Jersey. We're at the time, 38 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: guess who the mayor was, is he? Oh yeah, the 39 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: guy who just lost his attempted political comeback in Jersey 40 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: City to become the mayor, as he addressed a nation 41 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: later on and said, I am a gay American. You 42 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: know that is Yeah, like Cormo, he attempted to come back. 43 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: He was the mayor of Woodbridge at the time. Jim 44 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: McGready greed and he crashed in burnerw Jersey City. But anyway, 45 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: the point being is Bob Grant's single handedly took this 46 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: woman and got her elected, and then, in typical political fashion, 47 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: she stuck the ship in his back. Came up, did 48 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: an interview in the studios at WABC at that time 49 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: at two pen Plaza, Madison Square Garden. Here's the guy 50 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: who got her elected. And because people were calling Bob 51 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: Grant a racist, she chimed in, oh yeah, she was 52 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: stabbing him in the back. And Bob was always respectful 53 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: to his guests on the radio. You know, he would 54 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: rail against them when he was doing his commentaries, but 55 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: he was always respectful. I was there at the station 56 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: that day. It was a horrific political performance, and you 57 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: got to understand that you may be loyal to certain politicians. 58 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. They care only about themselves. And that 59 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: was clearly evidenced the Christine Todd Whitless Miserable Verson. But 60 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: she had no loyalty. The guy who did have loyalty, 61 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: it's the great Bernard McGirk. And I say great because 62 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: he earned it. His father was a bus driver, Irish 63 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: bus driver in the Bronx. His mother raised kids in 64 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 1: the Monroe housing projects and Soundview, so where Wesley Snipes 65 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: grew up. Yeah, Wesley, pay your taxes. They never did. 66 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: And many others who grew up there. But when you 67 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: were white back then, you were the minority, and it 68 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: was a tough upbringing. But when I've been to the 69 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: Monroe projects and I speak to the elderly African American women, 70 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: many of them still living there, they would say Bernard 71 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: McGirk would walk around with books all the time. He'd 72 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: be reading books, he'd be teaching kids to read, even 73 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: the ones threatening him to give him a beat down. 74 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: And as you know, Bernard was a tough guy. It 75 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: was a Hayes man. Went to Cardinal Hayes. I think 76 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: he went to Mount Saint Vincent up in Riverdale, then 77 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: left school, was driving livery cabs up in Young because 78 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: overnight you know how dangerous that is. Back then the 79 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: slowbine projects, Milford Gardens, thugs and then late and now 80 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: you know who's China hal at Back then livery cabs, 81 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: it's pimps, it's prostitutes, it's John's, it's drug dealers, it's 82 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: drug users and drunks who were getting out of the 83 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: bars along McLean Avenue in the wee hours of the morning, 84 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: and it was tough. He talked to me about all 85 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: the times he got pissed the whip guns to his head, Rob, 86 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: because back then it was cash and carry. And then 87 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: he fell into radio. It's one of the best things 88 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: that ever happened on radio. At some point he hooked 89 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: up with Imus, who had had his ups and downs 90 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: and was just a nasty guy. Nasty guy, but he 91 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: became the lynchpin, the flywheel, the one person who was 92 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: able to turn it around for don Imus, who, depending 93 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: on which day it was, was probably in a really 94 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: bad mood. If I remember correctly, There was Imus, Charles McCord, 95 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: his news guy, Rob Bartlett Loifino, who is now sid 96 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: Rosenberg's wingman. If he hadn't gotten Luia Fino here from 97 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: w o WAL. I don't think sid Rosenberg would have 98 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: cut it. Once Bernard McGirk passed away. We'll get into 99 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: that momentarily. But by the time they came to WABC. 100 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: This is after that Scarlet Night situation with Rutgers, which 101 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: I think occurred in about two thousand and seven. All 102 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: of a sudden, MSNBC canceled them because they were simulcast, 103 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: and then WFA and canceled them, fired, Imish fired. Bernard 104 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: McGirr kept the others on a little bit, but let 105 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: them go too, and they were in a lurch. They 106 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: were persona and on Grada they had a scarlet letter 107 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: on them they would call races, which, let me tell 108 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: you something, Bernard McGirr coughing up in the projects with 109 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: predominantly African Americans and Hispanics around him, not far from 110 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: the Soto Mayor Projects which used to be the Bronxdale 111 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: Projects renamed in her honor, near the Bruckna in the 112 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: heart of the South Bronx. He was no racist. Probably 113 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: the saddest moment that I experienced on his behalf is 114 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: that he was supposed to in two thousand and seven 115 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: be hired over at WRKO for the morning program in Boston, 116 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: and boy, they wanted him there desperately because he would 117 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: have been a perfect fit Irish. And remember he used 118 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: to do used to do the imitations of John and 119 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: Cardinal o'conna and Cardinal Egan. You know, you had that 120 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: Federal Express envelope as like the cone on his head. 121 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: He was great with the Irish brogue man and loved 122 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: him in Boston. So there I am in the studios 123 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: of WRKO in Boston. I was leading Guardian Angel patrols. 124 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: Some black minister had said, don't come to Boston because 125 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: you're just asking to end up in a body bag. 126 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: It was high crime. The mayor was opposed to it, 127 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: and so here it was they were going to hire 128 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: Bernard McGirk to be the co host with the former 129 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: Speaker of the crooked Boston Excuse mean Massachusetts Legislature, Tom 130 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: Finnerant and then Alslom Shady Sharpton and Barack Obama started 131 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: working the phones to all the advertisers and telling him, 132 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: if you hire that racist Bernard McGirk, we're going to 133 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: launch a boycott. So when I got there that morning, 134 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: I said, hey, where's Burnie? Oh no, no, no, they decided 135 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: not to take him. Honest, but what that would have 136 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: helped you, Thomas, You know you're a politician. I was 137 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: honest with him. Politicians make horrible talk show hosts because 138 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: they always speak with a seven second soundblite the worst. 139 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: He goes, No, you're right, I needed Bernie. So once 140 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: again Bernard McGirk was off into the ABYSS, labeled a racist. Meantime, 141 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: unbeknownst to anybody, don Imus who represented his whole crew, 142 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: because you paid Imus, and then he paid his crew, 143 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: so you were subject to whatever Imus said you had 144 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: to do. He was meeting with the Buckley family who 145 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: owned WOR, this station seven ten at the time, family 146 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: owned station, and they were on the cusp of hiring him. Now, 147 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: remember the morning shows there had either been gambling one, two, three, 148 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: or programs that sounded like the Gambling show. You know, 149 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: it soundedlikes So this would have been a major departure 150 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: for them. I don't know what happened, but negotiations broke 151 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: down and at that point WOR decided not to bring 152 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: him into the mornings. That's like halfway through twenty two 153 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: thousand and seven and then towards the end of two 154 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: thousand and seven, what happens. WABC hires Imis in the 155 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: Morning and his crew to replace Curtis and Koby. They 156 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: fired Kooby and they put me in a box doing 157 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: overnight radio and that was syndicated across the nation. But 158 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: they weren't gonna let me go, and they said this 159 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: so wow. It was all within a year, and every 160 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: step of the way, Bernard McGirk was loyal to Imus 161 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: and loyal to the team. Never told his stories, the 162 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: horrific stories of how badly i'mus treated him and all 163 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: the members of his staff. By the way, the executive producer, 164 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: when you saw him in the studio, he was feeding 165 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: information i'mus. Bernard would read the books, he would give 166 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: him the questions to ask. There was sometimes Imus was 167 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: almost incoherent, and Bernard McGirk would save the day whether 168 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: i'mus was off in New Mexico and then eventually in 169 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: Texas at Ranch whatever. And then he had a wish 170 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: at WABC. He wanted to have his own show. He 171 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: had earned it many times over great talk show hosts, 172 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: and he said to management and ownership, I want to 173 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: be able to bring up Sid Rosenberg from Florida, who 174 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: was having a difficult time, and he convinced him. He 175 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: convinced them that, yeah, this could be a good show. 176 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: I remember I went down to Florida. I was hosting 177 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: a Guardian Angel conference at the hard Rock Casino in Hollywood, 178 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: and I was asking questions about Sid because he had 179 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: just been fired in another radio station. Assumed he had 180 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: some of the same problems he had before. He hadn't. 181 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: I reported back to ownership management and I told, man, 182 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: you got it. You got to bring Sid up because 183 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: he wanted to hire Mike Lupeka, the sports writer at 184 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: at the Daily News. Great sports writer, but horrible talk 185 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: show hosts. And I must say, convince him. You don't 186 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: have to come into the station. You could do it 187 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: from your basement in New Canaan. Yeah, just destroy the 188 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: station even more, saying God, they listened to me. They 189 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: brought Sid Rosenberg up. Sid was a great addition. And 190 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: then unfortunately Bernie, and this is a message to all 191 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: of you to get to your menfo never took that 192 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: PSA test. A simple prick of the finger, A simple 193 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: prick of the finger. If he had had that blood test, 194 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: it's simple. I can assure you he would not have 195 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: died of prostate cancer like so many men needlessly do 196 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: because they don't get tested. If you're forty five or older, 197 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: you gotta get tested. Women folk listening out there, you 198 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: have the right to nag them, be all over them, 199 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: make sure they get that test, because the toughest guys 200 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: are the ones least likely to take the test because 201 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: they think, oh man, it goes my manhood. You know, 202 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: I'll have to be using no longer the urino. I'll 203 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: have to go into the stall and do a squad 204 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: in for us. That's nonsense. I had stage four prostate cancer. 205 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: But Bernie was old school. And when we return, I'll 206 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: tell you exactly what happened there. For one year, this 207 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: guy suffered and you continue to do talk radio while 208 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: his partner, Sid Rosenberg was hoping that he would have 209 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: a shot to do the show on his own. You 210 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: imagine that this guy who had brought him, who said 211 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: I want sit up here, and all Sid was doing 212 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: while Bertie was suffering, is I could do this show 213 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: on my own. Really, No, you couldn't. No, you can't. 214 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: And I'll give you the rest of the real story 215 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: as I do my homage to a great all round 216 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: figure in talk radio, Bernard McGirk, who should be honored 217 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: on a regular basis for all he put up, with, 218 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: all he did, and what he contributed to the thing 219 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: of ours. One eight hundred three two one zero seven ten. 220 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: That's one eight hundred three two, one zero seven ten