WEBVTT - 10-11-25 Gary Jeff Walker 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:05.720 The Nightcap on seven hundred WLW, Gary Jeff Walker. Great 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:08.640 to be back in the catbird seat. Great to be 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:11.840 back on the air with you. Sorry Reds fans, there's 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:16.120 not more playoff action to consume. And the Bengals, well, 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:20.360 we'll leave that for later discussion. The wild Man will 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:24.079 be joining us later, and I know that he has 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.120 a case of what he would call the anticipated goo 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:32.200 after another Bengals loss yesterday to the Detroit Lions, which 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:37.920 pretty much everyone expected, I think, including the Bengals. But 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:44.760 we start this evening with my friend Peter Bronson, the 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:50.600 author of so many great books centered on history, especially 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.559 in this part of the country, and the former Inquirer 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.600 columnist and just a guy who has been a great 0:00:56.680 --> 0:01:01.480 boon of content for me and been a good friend 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:05.640 for many years. Now. Pete, welcome back into the Nightcap studio. 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:06.400 How are you doing. 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:08.960 I'm glad to be here with you, Gary Jeff. You're 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:12.080 very kind in your introduction there. I appreciate well, no, 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.800 I mean you're like a less gifts. 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:19.880 My first show, my very first Nightcap, My very first 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:21.240 guest was Marty Brenneman. 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.800 Oh I only select the best. Oh well, I'm glad 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:28.200 to be in his company. I like Marty, especially if 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:31.559 you're the leadoff hitter. So how have you been? Very good? 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:35.320 Life is great. I've been very busy this summer traveling. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:41.160 Celebrated my fiftieth wedding anniversary with graduated wife Kathy, and. 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:42.360 That was a lot of fun. 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.560 We had the whole family up on Lake Michigan, as 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.400 we used to do when our children were still children, 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.880 and brought the grandkids up there so they could see 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.520 the joy of being on the lake. 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.280 And play in the way. I got to tell you 0:01:56.360 --> 0:02:00.840 that there are so many reasons that I really really 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:05.080 admire you and look up to you personally, and it 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:09.040 has very little to do with your great accomplishments, which 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.440 would be enough on their own. But the greatest accomplishment 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:17.280 I think a man or a woman can have in 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:22.120 this life is an enduring relationship with a spouse. Oh yes, 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:27.920 fifty years is incredible. And the thing is people who 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.880 are if you're listening to this and you've not been married, 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.720 but you're contemplating it for the first time, warning, it 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:40.360 is very difficult to main it's the best job you 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:43.160 could ever have, But it is a job, is it not? 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.560 It is there's a lot of responsibility. 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.600 And you know, I would just say to those that 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:51.760 are in their twenties and thirties and they feel like 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:53.799 this is just not going to work and things are. 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:55.320 Just too rough, I'll tell you what. 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.560 Stick it out. It's like an investment. It just gets 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.240 better and it pays off better and better and better. 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:05.840 The interest compounds and your life gets better, your marriage 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:10.600 gets stronger, your family gets stronger, and that's the real payoff. 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:14.440 Krista and I just celebrated our eleventh wedding annis relations 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:15.440 this time. 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:18.480 And so. 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:24.720 All told together if you count the first marriage, which 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.920 I don't know, we'll do just for the sake of 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:32.560 this conversation. We've we've been together on and off since 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:35.920 May thirty first of nineteen ninety seven. So good, great, 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.400 you know, we got back together and God showed us 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.360 a way to do that, and it was wonderful and 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.480 it has been a end of that, Bless the Lord. 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:48.279 So okay, So that's one thing. You have been tirelessly 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.720 working on. Another book which is just about ready to 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:54.440 come out. Yes, the last. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:59.280 Book was the last book was called promised about this area, Yes, 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.560 about the first settlers and pioneers who came here are 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:03.440 a really. 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.680 Tough group of people. Yeah, they were, They had to be. 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:10.320 Yeah, the Miami Slaughterhouse, it was known. Cincinnati was really 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.440 wasn't even known as a city or a town at 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.440 the time. It was just a little tiny settlement around 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:17.360 Fort Washington. 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:19.159 But everybody did. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.599 Know that it was the Miami Slaughterhouse because the Shawnee 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:24.160 and the Miami tribes were so fierce. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:28.320 Well, then all the German settlers finally established a city 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:32.359 here and it became poor Coppolis and a pig slaughterhouse. Yeah. 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.440 There you go, the other one, the other slaughterhouse house 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:39.520 to another. And some people say, with the state of 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:44.600 the city of Cincinnati, it's maybe not necessarily a positive 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:48.400 thing that in many neighborhoods it's become a slaughterhouse again. 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:52.240 And that's another topic for another time. But yeah, So 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.320 tell me about the new book, Peter. Well, the new 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.960 book is called Magical History Tour. And what I'm doing 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.520 in this time is is a lot like the other books. 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.640 I'm focusing on our local history and the really rich 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:08.559 treasure of history Cincinnati has, and so much of it 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:12.480 is buried, it's undiscovered. When you tell people these stories 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:17.080 about what happened, for example, during the Confederate invasion of 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.400 Cincinnati in eighteen sixty two in my book called The 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.080 Man who Saves Cincinnati. 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:22.400 Which you've written about. 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.800 Yeah, a lot of people are completely I speak about 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:28.640 this all the time. I do various groups, service clubs 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:32.520 and historical societies and so forth, so I stay busy 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:36.400 with that. I was totally unaware of that, and so 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:38.240 most of the people that I meet. 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:39.440 And so there are. 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.800 All these great treasures of history, and this time I've 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.440 found five that I'm using as short stories. And some 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.080 are you know, like you could sit down and read 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.279 it in a couple hours, and some are a couple 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:52.440 a little bit longer. 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.920 But so it's nonfiction, but it's framed a fiction. Yeah, 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.359 I would call it historical fiction. Historical fiction. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.400 So the history he is all accurate, and nobody says 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:06.160 or does anything that would be inconsistent or invented as 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.680 a means of telling our history, but that we use 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.720 the fictional characters in a few instances to help move 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.120 the story along and make it more exciting. So I 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:20.279 might pair up in one story a real detective, a 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.839 Cincinnati detective in the eighteen middle eighteen hundreds, and his 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.679 name was William Rainey, and a very well decorated Civil 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:31.040 War veteran and a great detective who's a character in 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:32.880 his own right. But I paired him up with a 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:37.360 newspaperman who is fictional, but it was based on newspapermen 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:41.800 at the time, and they're kind of a cohorts to 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:45.760 try and solve this crime that they see, which is 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:51.520 that two women from the Whitewater Shaker commit community up 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:56.039 near Northmen they check into a downtown hotel and commit 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:57.880 suicide apparently. 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:00.920 And the rest is very interesting. 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:05.240 They were kicked out of the Shaker community, banished for 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:10.280 violating the oath of celibacy, and there was a young 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.520 man who is being allowed to come and stay in 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:17.000 the community who helped them. 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:20.160 Both the mother and the daughter violate that oath. 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.080 And it's a very fascinating story of love, of romance, 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:29.920 of mistakes of crazy cults. I guess you could call 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:34.400 them like the Shakers. They're a little bit on the 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:38.880 cultish side, and that's maybe a little bit controversial for 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.520 people who know the Shaker's story. But I'll just leave 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.840 you with this on that one. If you go out 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:49.840 to the Whitewater Shaker Community Cemetery. You're going to find 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:53.240 out first of all, that it's not well populated because celibacy, 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.360 you know, a community. 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:00.640 And Peter, this is how cults die, This is how 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.160 this is how the world may die. With the population 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:09.280 rate that we've got in this country and around the world. 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:13.720 You know, we went from this hysteria. We're over populated. 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:17.280 There's no way that the earth can feed that many people. 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:20.280 It's going to be horrible. We've got to restrict our 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.040 and you know now our birth rate is not even 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.280 at replacement rate in the United States. But anyway, I digress, 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.679 so very good point. 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:33.280 So celibacy is the cult at sac for this. So 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.920 the cemetery is not well populated. It's a lot of 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.080 room with only a few graves in back. But in 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.520 the middle of the cemetery is a monument and it 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:44.720 says this is dedicated to the Shaker community, a community 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.440 of celibate Christian Communists. 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:53.640 Now who knew that? Who knew that? I did not know? 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.680 Isn't that great? And so that story. 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:58.880 When I heard about this suicide of these two women, 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.079 I began to investigate it and it turned out to 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:04.520 be very fascinating. It's a bit of a mystery. It 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:09.360 has some medical mystery in it. It has mystery of 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.440 what were these young men doing in the Shaker community 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.240 who were allowed to come in from Cincinnati. In this case, 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.960 the guy was a drunk, a total black sheep, and 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:19.760 his wealthy family and they. 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:25.000 Sent him up there to dry out. So interesting story. Well, 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:28.160 instead of drying out, he got two women kicked out. 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:32.360 Yes, and the double standard that becomes evident where he 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.040 was allowed to come back and the women were not 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.280 A very sad story, but fascinating. 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.040 And so that's one of the stories. But yeah, the 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:43.320 book is a magical history tour, yes, yes. 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:47.080 And in it also I will include ten places that 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:51.000 you need to see or visit with your kids to 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:55.240 show them and explain Cincinnati history, what really happened here 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:56.480 and the importance of it. 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:02.040 You've lived in Cincinnati a little bit right around the 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.880 time that I have. I moved here in nineteen ninety four. 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.920 I came here two ninety two, not originally from here. 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.840 But you have so sunk your teeth, oh into the 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:15.720 culture and history of this town. I love it. Do 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:20.800 you think that if you had, for example, remained in 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:28.439 Arizona or remained in Michigan that you would have found 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:31.240 the same treasure trove there. Is it because you were 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:34.040 you were eating at the table that's set for you, 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.200 or do you think that there's something very unique and 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.960 special about this area in particular, well from mining history. 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.160 I kind of answered that all of the above, But 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:46.520 with the exception of Michigan, because I grew up in Michigan, 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.040 I took it all for granted, and I didn't really 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:50.640 have the history, didn't really interest. 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.000 As a lot of people probably take Cincinnati history for granted, 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.600 and that's the reason people like you write books exactly. 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:59.040 So you might be living in Arizona for ten or 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.080 eleven years as I would, as I did, and yet 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.280 I didn't go to the Grand Canyon. Well, people that 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.000 I knew that live there all their lives didn't go 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.199 to the Grand Canyon. Yeah, you know, so, I mean 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:09.840 it's sort of like one of those things if you 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.200 just grow up there, you take it in stride and 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.920 it's like that's just the way it is. Whereas when 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.920 I came to a place new, I was fascinated by 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.720 Arizona history and the history of the Arizona Rangers and 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.079 the wild West and all the things that happened out there. 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:26.160 Very exciting history. But when I came to Cincinnati, I 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.080 find it's even richer because it goes back so much farther, 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.480 and it goes back to the seventeen hundred, the late 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:35.920 seventeen hundreds, you know, for the for the Western civilization 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:39.480 part of it. And there's just so much rich history 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.760 here and so much that I still haven't uncovered and discovered. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:50.280 Do you find that in your research there are ample 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.720 people to talk to that do know these things, so 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.960 you can call this information out into a book. I mean, 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:57.880 where do you find your sources? 0:11:58.120 --> 0:11:58.240 Oh? 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:01.320 There's this is I've it's like the golden age of 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.600 historical research. I believe I can find things that used 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.319 to take me weeks in the newsroom to just because 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.560 of the Internet, because I can push a few buttons 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.400 on a keyboard and I know where to go. 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:16.280 Be careful. Dave Patter has warned me that AI hallucinates. 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:17.199 So do you. 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.920 I don't let me say right up front, I do 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.640 not use AI in any way for my books. 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:25.079 I don't trust it. 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.720 And I, as an artist or a writer, what modest 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.800 level of that I have? I am not willing to 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:36.120 forfeit my intellectual imagination and my capacity to write to 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.160 some machine that's going to tell me how it should 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:38.520 be done. 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:42.480 No way, I don't touch that stuff. Well, the problem is, 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:48.360 and actually I'll be talking to Dave this week on 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.240 the program, but the thing that he was bringing up 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:57.080 just last Saturday morning was the problem with AI is 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:02.080 that it consumes other AI. There will be no human 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:05.840 content on the Internet at all. That's all scary, replaced 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.720 by artificial intention. And how can we possibly trust that? 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.640 You know, I was listening to an interesting podcast the 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.600 other day, and I like to do that while I'm walking, 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.880 and a lot of times they stimulate your imagination. I'm 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:19.760 listening to an interesting podcast right now. 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.079 And this person, who has done a lot of research 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:28.120 on this, said that he compared AI. He said, this 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:32.080 is the biblical tree of knowledge by which you will 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:35.959 gain wisdom and the promises that you will be like God. 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:38.600 Now remember the tree of wisdom in the Garden of Eden. 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:42.560 That was the serpent that said, yes, have this eat 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.680 of the tree of wisdom that God forbids, and you 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.880 will be like God, and you will know all that 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.600 you need to know about good and evil. Well, he's 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:55.520 saying that this is where AI is going to go. 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.680 It's going to be the tree of knowledge of good 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:03.280 and evil, and by imbibing in it, you are paying 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.439 a huge price, mankind. 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:13.480 Oh, I believe that full stop. For Ad and Eve, 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.760 it was being banished from the garden. 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:19.360 They lost their their relationship with their direct relationship with them. 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.560 They suddenly suddenly found out that they were naked. 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:27.720 The suddenly Yeah, they realized the self awareness of their 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:29.480 of their frailty and their weakness. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.200 And what did they do? They tried to cover themselves up. 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.640 The problem with AI that makes us even more of 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:41.200 an issue is that, as Hatter told me, AI, AI 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:48.040 is consuming AI, and AI has already been proven to 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:53.000 hallucinate and just make things up blatantly. So well, did 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:53.560 you see. 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:58.560 The story about the AI that used one of its 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:02.120 creators and had read her email and found out that 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:06.240 she was having an affair and it threatened to expose 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.680 this to all of the people in her workplace and 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:12.880 her family and her social network unless she would promise 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:14.200 never to unplug it. 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.840 Wow, No, I did not hear that story. Oh, there 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:20.240 are several stories. 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:24.240 Out there blackmailing people AI the blackmailing, AI will lie, 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:28.920 it learns to lie. Yeah, and I mean it's going 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.920 back to the two thousand and one Space Odyssey with 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:32.960 how the computer. 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.880 I'm sorry, I can't do that, Dave. Yeah, you're making 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:44.840 a big mistake. Dave got chills. Really. So I'll just 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.680 preface the next segment with this talking to Peter Bronson 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:55.760 on the Nightcap the new fall season, and you need 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.640 to have a little and scenes from last week's episode 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:05.600 or the Law and Loorder boom uh. But real quickly 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:07.760 to preface what we're going to talk about next a 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.880 little bit. I was on for Tom Breneman filling in 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.880 a couple of weeks back, and I just came out 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.000 of the breaking and it just struck me. I said, 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:21.360 I'm becoming very concerned that I'm not as concerned as 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:24.880 I should be about all the craziness going on around me. Yeah, 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.320 and we'll get into that next. Oh, that's a good topic. 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:31.640 Peter Bronson with us on this new Nightcap. A new 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:36.680 book coming out, the Magical History Tour. When when's that 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:38.720 going to be out? It'll be out at the end 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:39.400 of October. 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:41.400 If everything goes well, I should have it off the 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:45.600 presses before the end of this month of October. 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.400 And it'll will be ready then for Christmas sales. 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:49.680 And I'll be trying my best to get the word 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.560 out everywhere I can, well, including here here, Yes, absolutely 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:57.240 right now we're doing it more from Chili Dog Press, 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:01.960 Yes press dot com. All right, Utcher Leaky. 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:05.359 Basement or smelly crawl space permanently. 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Yes, 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:37.600 I always thought. 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:40.600 I always thought it was an outrageous taxation without representation 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:44.040 that they take employ taxes from people who worked on 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:45.520 town as they did for me the. 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:47.680 Entire time I was working at the enquired, not a. 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:51.200 Little bit, not a little bit, It was a significant tax. 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.119 And that yet they're taking your taxes and they give 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.800 you no representation. You don't even have any vote in 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.720 who's running the city simply because you're not living there. 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.160 But but you're paying the tax paying the taxes. 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.280 So it's one of the great things about moving the 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.440 studios out here to Kenwood is that we were out 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:11.480 of the city of Cincinnati and they stopped extracting their 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.720 pound of flesh or maybe a pound and a half 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:15.840 out of me. And I live in northern Kentucky. 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:19.119 I mean, that's the great migration right out of the 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:19.920 Blue cities. 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:24.080 People are leaving Blue City. Wait until Zorn Mandani, who 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.680 when's the New York City? In New York? 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:31.360 They are businesses, people with money stock exchange in Texas. 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:35.320 The tax base that he was planning on using for 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.920 all of these eye eye in the you know, pie 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:41.080 in the sky social programs that he's promising the millennials 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.919 in gen z who are the only ones that are 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.560 going to come out and vote number one. This is 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:52.040 the big problem with Cincinnati too, and many other big towns. 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:57.760 You have an off year, so called off year mayoral election. Yeah, 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:03.200 council election very thin turnout, uh as little as eleven 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:05.000 or twelve percent in some cases. 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:05.439 Pete. 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:10.800 Yeah, so you have taxation without representation, but the people 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.240 are choosing not to be represented by not going to 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:16.560 the polls and voting for sure. And in this town 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:22.280 we have a mayor who continues to say that the 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:26.560 ongoing violence, which he describes as gun violence. Yeah, it's 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:31.200 all the guns, is unacceptable, and he says this over 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.119 and over and over again, but yet nothing is really 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:37.000 done about it. And I'm not sure that aftab pure 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:43.119 vol alone could stop the violence, whether it be with 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:44.879 gun or machete. 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:46.720 Or any other Well, I don't know, Gary, Jeff. I mean, 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.960 what we're seeing happened in Washington, d C. What we're 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:54.639 going to see happen in very maybe Chicago, maybe Chicago. 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:58.879 Right now it seems to be going in the Memphis, Memphis. 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.480 Los Angeles, Orleans, Yeah, Portland. 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:05.480 What we're seeing in these cities is just a proof, 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:10.119 a very vivid, textbook demonstration of lack of leadership. Yes, 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:14.120 if you provide the enforcement, this crime doesn't have to exist. 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.560 If you provide, you have back your parturrence. Yes, you 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.080 back the police. Really, what these National Guard troops are 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.800 doing is the administrative stuff so the police can get 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:24.120 out there and do their job well. 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:27.040 In the National Guard troops that are being brought in, 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:31.639 which this judge is Biden appointed judge out in Oregon, 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:36.600 has stopped Trump's plan to come into Portland, which is 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:41.399 temporarily right. We'll see how it goes through the court system. 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:45.919 But what the federal troops are there for are to 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:53.040 protect federal buildings, yes, that are being attacked, exactly, federal 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:55.880 law enforcement that are being attacked. That's what they're trying 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:57.959 to bring in the National Guarden of federal troops for 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:02.680 its immobilizing the caliph Ffornia National Guard, which Gavin Newsom, 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:07.480 of course, for purely political reasons, not for public safety reasons, 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:12.439 not for common sense reasons, is roundly rejecting because it 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:16.040 would be a referendum on how poor the leadership is 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.760 and the lack of enforcement and that has been If 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:22.240 you say, the mayor of Los Angeles, by the governor 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:23.480 of California, go ahead. 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:26.600 If you say, like aftab Our, Mayor, this is a 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:29.720 problem of gun violence and the solution is in these 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:32.439 root causes. Basically, what you're saying is there's nothing we 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:36.800 can do about it. It's generational. It's all society's fault. 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:39.359 And then if you have somebody come in to DC 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:43.920 like President Trump did and demonstrate that in a matter 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:48.920 of even overnight, within days, that city is safe. The 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:51.560 murders have stopped, people can use the restaurants, they can 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:53.240 walk alone on the street. 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:56.280 They went over a week without a murder in Washington, 0:21:56.359 --> 0:22:00.000 d C. That hadn't happened in years in our Nation's. 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:03.240 So, what he's basically done is he's made people like 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:06.440 aft tab and their root Causes a liar. He's made 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:09.600 them a fool. He's made them look like they absolutely 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:14.679 have no clue what's going on, and they don't. I mean, honestly, Gary, Jeff. 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:19.399 These problems have always been around, and what we learned 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:22.119 from them is that if you enforce the law with 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:25.360 zero tolerance, with the broken windows theory, with all these 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:27.240 other things, if you put people on the street that 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:30.639 are enforcing the law, the crime problem goes away. 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:33.600 So if you're listening to this so difficulty. If you're 0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:37.400 listening to this and you're a citizen of Cincinnati and 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:41.199 you're not registered to vote, well that's problem one. But 0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:44.119