1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: The Nightcap on seven hundred WLW, Gary Jeff Walker. Great 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: to be back in the catbird seat. Great to be 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: back on the air with you. Sorry Reds fans, there's 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: not more playoff action to consume. And the Bengals, well, 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: we'll leave that for later discussion. The wild Man will 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: be joining us later, and I know that he has 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: a case of what he would call the anticipated goo 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: after another Bengals loss yesterday to the Detroit Lions, which 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: pretty much everyone expected, I think, including the Bengals. But 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: we start this evening with my friend Peter Bronson, the 11 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: author of so many great books centered on history, especially 12 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: in this part of the country, and the former Inquirer 13 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: columnist and just a guy who has been a great 14 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: boon of content for me and been a good friend 15 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: for many years. Now. Pete, welcome back into the Nightcap studio. 16 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: How are you doing. 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 2: I'm glad to be here with you, Gary Jeff. You're 18 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: very kind in your introduction there. I appreciate well, no, 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: I mean you're like a less gifts. 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: My first show, my very first Nightcap, My very first 21 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: guest was Marty Brenneman. 22 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: Oh I only select the best. Oh well, I'm glad 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: to be in his company. I like Marty, especially if 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 2: you're the leadoff hitter. So how have you been? Very good? 25 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 2: Life is great. I've been very busy this summer traveling. 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: Celebrated my fiftieth wedding anniversary with graduated wife Kathy, and. 27 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun. 28 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: We had the whole family up on Lake Michigan, as 29 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: we used to do when our children were still children, 30 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: and brought the grandkids up there so they could see 31 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: the joy of being on the lake. 32 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: And play in the way. I got to tell you 33 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: that there are so many reasons that I really really 34 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: admire you and look up to you personally, and it 35 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: has very little to do with your great accomplishments, which 36 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: would be enough on their own. But the greatest accomplishment 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: I think a man or a woman can have in 38 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: this life is an enduring relationship with a spouse. Oh yes, 39 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: fifty years is incredible. And the thing is people who 40 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: are if you're listening to this and you've not been married, 41 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: but you're contemplating it for the first time, warning, it 42 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: is very difficult to main it's the best job you 43 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: could ever have, But it is a job, is it not? 44 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: It is there's a lot of responsibility. 45 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: And you know, I would just say to those that 46 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: are in their twenties and thirties and they feel like 47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: this is just not going to work and things are. 48 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: Just too rough, I'll tell you what. 49 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: Stick it out. It's like an investment. It just gets 50 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: better and it pays off better and better and better. 51 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: The interest compounds and your life gets better, your marriage 52 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: gets stronger, your family gets stronger, and that's the real payoff. 53 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: Krista and I just celebrated our eleventh wedding annis relations 54 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: this time. 55 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: And so. 56 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: All told together if you count the first marriage, which 57 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll do just for the sake of 58 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: this conversation. We've we've been together on and off since 59 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: May thirty first of nineteen ninety seven. So good, great, 60 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, we got back together and God showed us 61 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: a way to do that, and it was wonderful and 62 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: it has been a end of that, Bless the Lord. 63 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:48,279 Speaker 1: So okay, So that's one thing. You have been tirelessly 64 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: working on. Another book which is just about ready to 65 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: come out. Yes, the last. 66 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: Book was the last book was called promised about this area, Yes, 67 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: about the first settlers and pioneers who came here are 68 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: a really. 69 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: Tough group of people. Yeah, they were, They had to be. 70 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Miami Slaughterhouse, it was known. Cincinnati was really 71 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: wasn't even known as a city or a town at 72 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: the time. It was just a little tiny settlement around 73 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: Fort Washington. 74 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: But everybody did. 75 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: Know that it was the Miami Slaughterhouse because the Shawnee 76 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: and the Miami tribes were so fierce. 77 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: Well, then all the German settlers finally established a city 78 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: here and it became poor Coppolis and a pig slaughterhouse. Yeah. 79 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: There you go, the other one, the other slaughterhouse house 80 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: to another. And some people say, with the state of 81 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati, it's maybe not necessarily a positive 82 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: thing that in many neighborhoods it's become a slaughterhouse again. 83 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: And that's another topic for another time. But yeah, So 84 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: tell me about the new book, Peter. Well, the new 85 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: book is called Magical History Tour. And what I'm doing 86 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: in this time is is a lot like the other books. 87 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: I'm focusing on our local history and the really rich 88 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,559 Speaker 2: treasure of history Cincinnati has, and so much of it 89 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: is buried, it's undiscovered. When you tell people these stories 90 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: about what happened, for example, during the Confederate invasion of 91 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: Cincinnati in eighteen sixty two in my book called The 92 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: Man who Saves Cincinnati. 93 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: Which you've written about. 94 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people are completely I speak about 95 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: this all the time. I do various groups, service clubs 96 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: and historical societies and so forth, so I stay busy 97 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: with that. I was totally unaware of that, and so 98 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: most of the people that I meet. 99 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: And so there are. 100 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: All these great treasures of history, and this time I've 101 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: found five that I'm using as short stories. And some 102 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: are you know, like you could sit down and read 103 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: it in a couple hours, and some are a couple 104 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: a little bit longer. 105 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: But so it's nonfiction, but it's framed a fiction. Yeah, 106 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: I would call it historical fiction. Historical fiction. 107 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: So the history he is all accurate, and nobody says 108 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: or does anything that would be inconsistent or invented as 109 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: a means of telling our history, but that we use 110 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: the fictional characters in a few instances to help move 111 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: the story along and make it more exciting. So I 112 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 2: might pair up in one story a real detective, a 113 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: Cincinnati detective in the eighteen middle eighteen hundreds, and his 114 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,679 Speaker 2: name was William Rainey, and a very well decorated Civil 115 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: War veteran and a great detective who's a character in 116 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: his own right. But I paired him up with a 117 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: newspaperman who is fictional, but it was based on newspapermen 118 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: at the time, and they're kind of a cohorts to 119 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: try and solve this crime that they see, which is 120 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: that two women from the Whitewater Shaker commit community up 121 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: near Northmen they check into a downtown hotel and commit 122 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: suicide apparently. 123 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: And the rest is very interesting. 124 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: They were kicked out of the Shaker community, banished for 125 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: violating the oath of celibacy, and there was a young 126 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: man who is being allowed to come and stay in 127 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: the community who helped them. 128 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: Both the mother and the daughter violate that oath. 129 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: And it's a very fascinating story of love, of romance, 130 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: of mistakes of crazy cults. I guess you could call 131 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: them like the Shakers. They're a little bit on the 132 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: cultish side, and that's maybe a little bit controversial for 133 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: people who know the Shaker's story. But I'll just leave 134 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: you with this on that one. If you go out 135 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: to the Whitewater Shaker Community Cemetery. You're going to find 136 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: out first of all, that it's not well populated because celibacy, 137 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: you know, a community. 138 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: And Peter, this is how cults die, This is how 139 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: this is how the world may die. With the population 140 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: rate that we've got in this country and around the world. 141 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: You know, we went from this hysteria. We're over populated. 142 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: There's no way that the earth can feed that many people. 143 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: It's going to be horrible. We've got to restrict our 144 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: and you know now our birth rate is not even 145 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: at replacement rate in the United States. But anyway, I digress, 146 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 1: so very good point. 147 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: So celibacy is the cult at sac for this. So 148 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: the cemetery is not well populated. It's a lot of 149 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 2: room with only a few graves in back. But in 150 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: the middle of the cemetery is a monument and it 151 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: says this is dedicated to the Shaker community, a community 152 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 2: of celibate Christian Communists. 153 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: Now who knew that? Who knew that? I did not know? 154 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: Isn't that great? And so that story. 155 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: When I heard about this suicide of these two women, 156 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 2: I began to investigate it and it turned out to 157 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: be very fascinating. It's a bit of a mystery. It 158 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: has some medical mystery in it. It has mystery of 159 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: what were these young men doing in the Shaker community 160 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: who were allowed to come in from Cincinnati. In this case, 161 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: the guy was a drunk, a total black sheep, and 162 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: his wealthy family and they. 163 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: Sent him up there to dry out. So interesting story. Well, 164 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: instead of drying out, he got two women kicked out. 165 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: Yes, and the double standard that becomes evident where he 166 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: was allowed to come back and the women were not 167 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: A very sad story, but fascinating. 168 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: And so that's one of the stories. But yeah, the 169 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: book is a magical history tour, yes, yes. 170 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: And in it also I will include ten places that 171 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: you need to see or visit with your kids to 172 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: show them and explain Cincinnati history, what really happened here 173 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: and the importance of it. 174 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: You've lived in Cincinnati a little bit right around the 175 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: time that I have. I moved here in nineteen ninety four. 176 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: I came here two ninety two, not originally from here. 177 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: But you have so sunk your teeth, oh into the 178 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: culture and history of this town. I love it. Do 179 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: you think that if you had, for example, remained in 180 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: Arizona or remained in Michigan that you would have found 181 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: the same treasure trove there. Is it because you were 182 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: you were eating at the table that's set for you, 183 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: or do you think that there's something very unique and 184 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: special about this area in particular, well from mining history. 185 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: I kind of answered that all of the above, But 186 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: with the exception of Michigan, because I grew up in Michigan, 187 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: I took it all for granted, and I didn't really 188 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: have the history, didn't really interest. 189 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: As a lot of people probably take Cincinnati history for granted, 190 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: and that's the reason people like you write books exactly. 191 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: So you might be living in Arizona for ten or 192 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: eleven years as I would, as I did, and yet 193 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: I didn't go to the Grand Canyon. Well, people that 194 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: I knew that live there all their lives didn't go 195 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 2: to the Grand Canyon. Yeah, you know, so, I mean 196 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: it's sort of like one of those things if you 197 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: just grow up there, you take it in stride and 198 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: it's like that's just the way it is. Whereas when 199 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: I came to a place new, I was fascinated by 200 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: Arizona history and the history of the Arizona Rangers and 201 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 2: the wild West and all the things that happened out there. 202 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: Very exciting history. But when I came to Cincinnati, I 203 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: find it's even richer because it goes back so much farther, 204 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: and it goes back to the seventeen hundred, the late 205 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: seventeen hundreds, you know, for the for the Western civilization 206 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: part of it. And there's just so much rich history 207 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: here and so much that I still haven't uncovered and discovered. 208 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: Do you find that in your research there are ample 209 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: people to talk to that do know these things, so 210 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: you can call this information out into a book. I mean, 211 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: where do you find your sources? 212 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 4: Oh? 213 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 2: There's this is I've it's like the golden age of 214 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: historical research. I believe I can find things that used 215 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 2: to take me weeks in the newsroom to just because 216 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: of the Internet, because I can push a few buttons 217 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: on a keyboard and I know where to go. 218 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: Be careful. Dave Patter has warned me that AI hallucinates. 219 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 3: So do you. 220 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 2: I don't let me say right up front, I do 221 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: not use AI in any way for my books. 222 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: I don't trust it. 223 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: And I, as an artist or a writer, what modest 224 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: level of that I have? I am not willing to 225 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: forfeit my intellectual imagination and my capacity to write to 226 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: some machine that's going to tell me how it should 227 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: be done. 228 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: No way, I don't touch that stuff. Well, the problem is, 229 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: and actually I'll be talking to Dave this week on 230 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: the program, but the thing that he was bringing up 231 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: just last Saturday morning was the problem with AI is 232 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: that it consumes other AI. There will be no human 233 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: content on the Internet at all. That's all scary, replaced 234 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: by artificial intention. And how can we possibly trust that? 235 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: You know, I was listening to an interesting podcast the 236 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: other day, and I like to do that while I'm walking, 237 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: and a lot of times they stimulate your imagination. I'm 238 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: listening to an interesting podcast right now. 239 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 2: And this person, who has done a lot of research 240 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: on this, said that he compared AI. He said, this 241 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 2: is the biblical tree of knowledge by which you will 242 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 2: gain wisdom and the promises that you will be like God. 243 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: Now remember the tree of wisdom in the Garden of Eden. 244 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 2: That was the serpent that said, yes, have this eat 245 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: of the tree of wisdom that God forbids, and you 246 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: will be like God, and you will know all that 247 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: you need to know about good and evil. Well, he's 248 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: saying that this is where AI is going to go. 249 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: It's going to be the tree of knowledge of good 250 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: and evil, and by imbibing in it, you are paying 251 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 2: a huge price, mankind. 252 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I believe that full stop. For Ad and Eve, 253 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: it was being banished from the garden. 254 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: They lost their their relationship with their direct relationship with them. 255 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: They suddenly suddenly found out that they were naked. 256 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: The suddenly Yeah, they realized the self awareness of their 257 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: of their frailty and their weakness. 258 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: And what did they do? They tried to cover themselves up. 259 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: The problem with AI that makes us even more of 260 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: an issue is that, as Hatter told me, AI, AI 261 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: is consuming AI, and AI has already been proven to 262 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: hallucinate and just make things up blatantly. So well, did 263 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: you see. 264 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: The story about the AI that used one of its 265 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: creators and had read her email and found out that 266 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: she was having an affair and it threatened to expose 267 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: this to all of the people in her workplace and 268 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: her family and her social network unless she would promise 269 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: never to unplug it. 270 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: Wow, No, I did not hear that story. Oh, there 271 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: are several stories. 272 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: Out there blackmailing people AI the blackmailing, AI will lie, 273 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: it learns to lie. Yeah, and I mean it's going 274 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: back to the two thousand and one Space Odyssey with 275 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: how the computer. 276 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't do that, Dave. Yeah, you're making 277 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: a big mistake. Dave got chills. Really. So I'll just 278 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: preface the next segment with this talking to Peter Bronson 279 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: on the Nightcap the new fall season, and you need 280 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: to have a little and scenes from last week's episode 281 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: or the Law and Loorder boom uh. But real quickly 282 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: to preface what we're going to talk about next a 283 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: little bit. I was on for Tom Breneman filling in 284 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks back, and I just came out 285 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: of the breaking and it just struck me. I said, 286 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm becoming very concerned that I'm not as concerned as 287 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: I should be about all the craziness going on around me. Yeah, 288 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: and we'll get into that next. Oh, that's a good topic. 289 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: Peter Bronson with us on this new Nightcap. A new 290 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: book coming out, the Magical History Tour. When when's that 291 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: going to be out? It'll be out at the end 292 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: of October. 293 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: If everything goes well, I should have it off the 294 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: presses before the end of this month of October. 295 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: And it'll will be ready then for Christmas sales. 296 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: And I'll be trying my best to get the word 297 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: out everywhere I can, well, including here here, Yes, absolutely 298 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: right now we're doing it more from Chili Dog Press, 299 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: Yes press dot com. All right, Utcher Leaky. 300 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 5: Basement or smelly crawl space permanently. In the past forty years, 301 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 5: they have fixed tens of thousands of basements with their 302 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 5: patentent system and lifetime warranty Inspections are free. Call Ever 303 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 5: Dry Waterproofing now open in Lexington and Louisville. 304 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: We're talking with Peter Bronson seven Otter WLW, Gary Jeff 305 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: with Jeff and Peter on this new nightcap and Pete 306 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: of course, Now do you live You don't live in 307 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati. 308 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 4: No, I don't. 309 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: I live in Milford, so you cannot vote in the 310 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: upcoming Cincinnati mayoral or council elections. No, that's the problem. Yes, 311 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: I always thought. 312 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: I always thought it was an outrageous taxation without representation 313 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: that they take employ taxes from people who worked on 314 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: town as they did for me the. 315 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: Entire time I was working at the enquired, not a. 316 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: Little bit, not a little bit, It was a significant tax. 317 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: And that yet they're taking your taxes and they give 318 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: you no representation. You don't even have any vote in 319 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: who's running the city simply because you're not living there. 320 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: But but you're paying the tax paying the taxes. 321 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: So it's one of the great things about moving the 322 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: studios out here to Kenwood is that we were out 323 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: of the city of Cincinnati and they stopped extracting their 324 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: pound of flesh or maybe a pound and a half 325 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: out of me. And I live in northern Kentucky. 326 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the great migration right out of the 327 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 2: Blue cities. 328 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: People are leaving Blue City. Wait until Zorn Mandani, who 329 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: when's the New York City? In New York? 330 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 2: They are businesses, people with money stock exchange in Texas. 331 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: The tax base that he was planning on using for 332 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: all of these eye eye in the you know, pie 333 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: in the sky social programs that he's promising the millennials 334 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: in gen z who are the only ones that are 335 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: going to come out and vote number one. This is 336 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: the big problem with Cincinnati too, and many other big towns. 337 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: You have an off year, so called off year mayoral election. Yeah, 338 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: council election very thin turnout, uh as little as eleven 339 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: or twelve percent in some cases. 340 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 3: Pete. 341 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have taxation without representation, but the people 342 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: are choosing not to be represented by not going to 343 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: the polls and voting for sure. And in this town 344 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: we have a mayor who continues to say that the 345 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: ongoing violence, which he describes as gun violence. Yeah, it's 346 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: all the guns, is unacceptable, and he says this over 347 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: and over and over again, but yet nothing is really 348 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: done about it. And I'm not sure that aftab pure 349 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: vol alone could stop the violence, whether it be with 350 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: gun or machete. 351 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: Or any other Well, I don't know, Gary, Jeff. I mean, 352 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: what we're seeing happened in Washington, d C. What we're 353 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 2: going to see happen in very maybe Chicago, maybe Chicago. 354 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 2: Right now it seems to be going in the Memphis, Memphis. 355 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Orleans, Yeah, Portland. 356 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: What we're seeing in these cities is just a proof, 357 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: a very vivid, textbook demonstration of lack of leadership. Yes, 358 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 2: if you provide the enforcement, this crime doesn't have to exist. 359 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: If you provide, you have back your parturrence. Yes, you 360 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: back the police. Really, what these National Guard troops are 361 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: doing is the administrative stuff so the police can get 362 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 2: out there and do their job well. 363 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: In the National Guard troops that are being brought in, 364 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: which this judge is Biden appointed judge out in Oregon, 365 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: has stopped Trump's plan to come into Portland, which is 366 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: temporarily right. We'll see how it goes through the court system. 367 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: But what the federal troops are there for are to 368 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: protect federal buildings, yes, that are being attacked, exactly, federal 369 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: law enforcement that are being attacked. That's what they're trying 370 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 1: to bring in the National Guarden of federal troops for 371 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: its immobilizing the caliph Ffornia National Guard, which Gavin Newsom, 372 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: of course, for purely political reasons, not for public safety reasons, 373 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: not for common sense reasons, is roundly rejecting because it 374 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: would be a referendum on how poor the leadership is 375 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: and the lack of enforcement and that has been If 376 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: you say, the mayor of Los Angeles, by the governor 377 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: of California, go ahead. 378 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: If you say, like aftab Our, Mayor, this is a 379 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: problem of gun violence and the solution is in these 380 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 2: root causes. Basically, what you're saying is there's nothing we 381 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: can do about it. It's generational. It's all society's fault. 382 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 2: And then if you have somebody come in to DC 383 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: like President Trump did and demonstrate that in a matter 384 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 2: of even overnight, within days, that city is safe. The 385 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: murders have stopped, people can use the restaurants, they can 386 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: walk alone on the street. 387 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: They went over a week without a murder in Washington, 388 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: d C. That hadn't happened in years in our Nation's. 389 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: So, what he's basically done is he's made people like 390 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 2: aft tab and their root Causes a liar. He's made 391 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: them a fool. He's made them look like they absolutely 392 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 2: have no clue what's going on, and they don't. I mean, honestly, Gary, Jeff. 393 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 2: These problems have always been around, and what we learned 394 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 2: from them is that if you enforce the law with 395 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 2: zero tolerance, with the broken windows theory, with all these 396 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: other things, if you put people on the street that 397 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 2: are enforcing the law, the crime problem goes away. 398 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: So if you're listening to this so difficulty. If you're 399 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: listening to this and you're a citizen of Cincinnati and 400 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: you're not registered to vote, well that's problem one. But 401 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: if you're registered to vote and you're not going to vote, 402 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: with all the opportunities you have to vote within the 403 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: next month, it's on you. It's not an AFTAB pure vault. 404 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: It's not in the city council. It's not on the 405 00:22:54,440 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: prosecuting attorney, it's not on the police chief. If you 406 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: don't vote and let your voice be heard when you 407 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: have more than ample opportunity, then then it then it 408 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: is then it is your fault. Then it is societal. 409 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: Don't you think I do? 410 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: And another thing on the mega trends here that we're 411 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: seeing is that in these blue cities, as you see 412 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: out migration, what happens is the people who stay are 413 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: the most radical. They're the ones who are happy with 414 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 2: a mom dollars a communist as their mayor of New 415 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: York City. 416 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: And that's what we will see in New York City. 417 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 2: We'll see the population begin to evaporate among those who 418 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: would who would fight against that and vote against it, 419 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: and you'll end up with more and more people who 420 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: are basically happy with decline and crime and miserable quality 421 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: of life because their ideology is. 422 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: More important than their actual real world experience. Well, mom Downie, 423 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: for example, keeps claiming over and over that even though 424 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: his policies are blatantly communists, that he's a Democrat socialist. 425 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: Well, what is that. That's just like a Walmart communist. 426 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, it's a dollar start communist. A 427 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: guy who says I'm just a democratic socialist. That is like, 428 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: that's on the ladder and it's just the next step 429 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 2: below a communist. 430 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: And maybe the thought is we have eight million people, 431 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: so we lose a couple of million people, it'll be 432 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: less people to control old, you know, and just retain power. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 433 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: All the loonies, as you mentioned, are staying here. 434 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: Well, and these people really don't care if you leave. 435 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: I mean they kind of want you to because those 436 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: would be the people who might vote against him and 437 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: criticize him. But they're going to leave in droves. I mean, 438 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 2: they already are. And we're going to see the same thing. 439 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 2: And we've seen it over the years in Cincinnati. 440 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: I mentioned before the break talking to Peter Bronson on 441 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: the night Cap on seven hundred WLW, I mentioned before 442 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: the break Peter, for this segment, one thing I wanted 443 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: to discuss with you was how I was expressing that 444 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: I was becoming concerned that I wasn't as concerned as 445 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: maybe I should be about certain things and whether it's 446 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: cultural or whatever, because the more I read the Bible, 447 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: the more I pray, the closer I become my relationship 448 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: with Christ in my faith, the more I realize that 449 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: many of these things ultimately don't matter that much to me. Yeah, 450 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's selfish or if I 451 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: mean yeah, I mean, it's the things that are going 452 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: on right now in our country and in the world 453 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: are terrible. They are you know, it's a healthscape in 454 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: many places well people. 455 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: And we also have a media though that is set 456 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: up to absolutely sensationalize and to incite anxiety, fear, right, 457 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: to to emphasize everything that's at its most insane. And 458 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: so that gives you the impression if you consume too 459 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 2: much of this cable news and broadcast. 460 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: Media, absolutely become obsessed with it. 461 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 2: Because it gives you that constant feeling of anxiety that 462 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 2: the world is falling apart, and that I mean, I'm 463 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 2: not saying these things aren't happening and that they're great concern. 464 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 2: All I'm saying is that their business model now is 465 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 2: to keep you in a constant state of anxiety, so 466 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 2: you feel like you have to tune in and stay 467 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: on top of this. And it's really sad because that's 468 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 2: really not what the media is for. That's not what 469 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 2: I believed in when I became a newspaperman. It's not 470 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: what I tried to do in my career in newspapers. 471 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: I didn't set out to make people afraid or to 472 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 2: give them the absolute worst, sensationalized, darkest view of reality, 473 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 2: which is what we see now. 474 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: Well, it's not like tabloid journalism is though. No, it's 475 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: always been around, but it was always kind of an outlier. 476 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: It was always the National Inquirer. It was you know, 477 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: on the fringes, the fringe for sure, that was the 478 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: goofy kid. It wasn't the mainstay of reporting. Yes, today 479 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: reporting has been replaced in so many cases in the 480 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: news with commentating, with pure agitation and slants just to 481 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 1: as you said, generate anxiety. 482 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: And both sides, the right does it in their in 483 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: their demographic, and the left does it in their demographic. 484 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 2: That's why we can't have any common ground of facts 485 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: because they won't allow those. 486 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 1: To this shows to touch this show. People know this 487 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: show is an opinion show in many cases, right, and 488 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: there's information, but it's largely opinion. Like you and I 489 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: are giving our opinion right now exactly on the topics 490 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: of the day. But don't call I don't call this 491 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: a news report necessarily. 492 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 2: No, it's not supposed to be that we discussed the news, 493 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: but we don't. 494 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we do up front, right out in front. 495 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: But the newscasts, uh, all across the board on radio, 496 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: on TV, have become and it's I swear it's it's 497 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: specifically in the age of Trump. It's just been exacerbated, it. 498 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 2: Has, it's been increased just tremendously, but it's. 499 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: Become this agenda driven, half truth kind of opinion in 500 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: in so called news headlines, and it's just it's unfair 501 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: and it's not right. Well, it's been happening for a 502 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: long time. 503 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: Gary, Jeff, I watched it increasing all the way up 504 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 2: in the in the year's bt before Trump, and it 505 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: was getting worse and worse. 506 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: It got to the point where we had and I. 507 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: Was editor of the opinion section, but we had as 508 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: much opinion in the news pages as we had in 509 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: our opinion section. And if you look at newspapers now, 510 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: a lot of them have totally abandoned their opinion sections 511 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 2: because they're doing it in the news columns. There's no 512 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: longer a wall there. There's no longer a Berlin wall 513 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: that says, hey, you guys, stay honest and just report 514 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: the facts. That will go ahead and spin it or 515 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: try to give opinions to The. 516 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: Inquirer's opinion editor recently departs and they don't have one 517 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: right now. I don't know, honestly, I don't know. I 518 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: don't stay in touch with the Inquirer anymore. 519 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: I check in online from time to time, but now 520 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: and then some of the stories just make me so disgusted. 521 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 2: I just say, all I really look at is sports. 522 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: You know, the Bengals and the Reds, and there's not 523 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: much reason to look at that. 524 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: There's a guy named glennam Harmyer and he writes these 525 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: constant letters to the editor to the Inquirer. Oh really 526 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: that get published? No, of course not. They took away 527 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: the comments. Why did they take away the comments? 528 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 2: Because basically what they've done it's like what we said 529 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: about the Blue Cities. 530 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, they keep. 531 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: Singing to the choir and singing to the choir, their 532 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: lefty audience, and their audience, their subscriber base shrank down 533 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: to a little tide pool of only leftists. And if 534 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 2: the conservative person went into the comments, they would almost 535 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: be eaten alive. 536 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: And when I attack my correct choir is now three 537 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: people who were toned, deaf and out of tune. 538 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean some of the stories are just 539 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: that they make me. I just shake my head. Where 540 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: is the editor that allowed that? All right, so let's reserve. 541 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: I talked about things that I'm not concerned about. Here's 542 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 2: another one. But it turns out you're more concerned than 543 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: the last couple of minutes of our conversation. 544 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: How sad it is it to watch? And it's not 545 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: just the lack of Joe Burrow to watch this collapse 546 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: by the Bengals. I wanted to get Peter Bronson's take 547 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: on sports real quickly. 548 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: Well, I'm no sports reporter by any stretch of the imagination. 549 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: The toy department exactly. 550 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: And I've always been a defender and an admirer of 551 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 2: Mike Brown. I think that he's maligned a lot more 552 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: than his appropriate h And again, everybody always likes to 553 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: revert it's the ownership. 554 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: It's the ownership. Well, look, they've they've put out the money. 555 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: They've put out the money for what the team said 556 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: they wanted, and apparently nobody can figure out that if 557 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: you get you can't protect a multi billion franchise quarterback 558 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: if the offensive line can't block, I mean, how that is? 559 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: What is with the coaches? I mean I got to 560 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: ask what is with the coaches? You know, and a 561 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: lot of people saying, oh, you can't fire Zach Taylor 562 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: because you know, the quarterbacks out the you know, the 563 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback's gone. So it's not Zach Taylor's fault. The 564 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: play calling has been atrocious for the last couple of years. Yes, yes, 565 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: the Bengals did not make The Bengals did not make 566 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs with a record setting sack leader and Joe 567 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: Burrow having possibly the best season in NFL history by 568 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,479 Speaker 1: any quarterback in any era, and the Bengals still did 569 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: not make the playoffs. And the answer is, don't forget 570 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase. 571 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got the number one run believable season free. 572 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: So it's not it's not a lack of talent or 573 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: players it's a lack of talent somewhere else. Well, and 574 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: the draft. 575 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: Picks they're making, the trades they're making, somebody's. 576 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: Just looked no closer than on the sidelines and in 577 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: the front office. 578 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: Well, I agree, it's it's sad, but it kind of 579 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: we're going back. We're falling back now to that place 580 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 2: where we brag about excelling at mediocrity. 581 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: Jeez, Peter, thank you so much for your time tonight. 582 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. It's great, great to see you again. 583 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: It's great to have you back, and it's great to 584 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: know that there's a new book in the in the 585 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: pipeline here. Magical History Tour is the name of it. 586 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: That brings a bell right, Magical History Tour a little 587 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: bit as the former host of Breakfast with the Beatles. Yes, yes, 588 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: it rings major bells with me. 589 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: Coming from all right, all right, thanks great, jeh, all right, 590 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: have a great one, fantastic And there is more Nightcap 591 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 2: just ahead in moments on seven hundred WLW. 592 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: I can't count on my husband, but I can count 593 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: on Willie. Willy is here for you. I just want 594 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: to curl up in his arms and hear his words. 595 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 6: Here to soothe your fears. 596 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: Soothe me, Bill Cunningham, Soothe. 597 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 6: Me here, to stand strong like the great American. 598 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: That I am. I'm not joking. I'd drink his dirty 599 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: bathwater me too. All you have to do is listen 600 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: to me, the great American, Bill Cunningham, Monday at twelve 601 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: noon on seven hundred w L. 602 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 2: You know what your customers are doing right this second, 603 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 2: the exact same thing you are listening to me, which, 604 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: let's be honest, is kind of flattering. 605 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 7: But my point is, ball is sports season, and iHeartRadio 606 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 7: has it all. Dnfler, MLB playoffs is gone. College football, 607 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 7: the NHL and NBA preseason moves are underway. From scores 608 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 7: and reactions to interviews and hot takes, It's all at 609 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 7: your fingertips on the iHeart Radio appp lock in with 610 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 7: your favorite teams with play by play podcasts and local 611 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 7: stations where you can react and join the conversation. Sports 612 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 7: on iHeartRadio where fans live it. 613 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: It is a special Saturday night cat here on seven 614 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: hundred WLW GJ Dubbs back with an old friend. Have 615 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: not talked to this gentleman in months? Of course, you've 616 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: been off the air for a while too, with Red Spaceball. 617 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: But we're back, and so is he a man who 618 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: for a long time went by the moniker Lady Maga Usa. 619 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if he still does or not. It's 620 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: been a while. We haven't talked in a while, but 621 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: I know him as Ryan Woods, and you know him 622 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: as a listener to this program, as a guy of 623 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 1: common sense, of great common sense and principle. It's great 624 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: to have him back on the program tonight, Ryan Wood 625 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: from Utah, welcome to the Nightcap again. 626 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 8: Well, thank you so much. It's an honor. It's an 627 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 8: honor to talk to you. Thanks for that intro. Yeah, 628 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 8: I created a drag character, Lady Maga Usa, as a 629 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 8: political tool to throw it in the face of the 630 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 8: left and attack the radical elements of the so called 631 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 8: lgbt Q y A plus X y z M community. 632 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 8: And yeah, it's been about it. It's coming up on 633 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 8: a year. I haven't done content with the character of 634 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 8: Lady Maga Usa, and I just I don't like I 635 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 8: don't I don't care about that so much anymore. I'm 636 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 8: less politically active than I was in the past. But 637 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 8: you know here here in Utah, we dealt with the 638 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 8: murder of Charlie Kirk. And uh, there was a dance 639 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 8: instructor here in Utah. I'm in the dance world. I teach, 640 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 8: I teach dance. And he is a black dude who 641 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 8: comes as a guest choreographer and he, you know, dances 642 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 8: with people that I know. And he decided to celebrate 643 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 8: Charlie Kirk's death online in the most vulgar, disgusting way possible. 644 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 8: So I'm you know, I made a video exposing him 645 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 8: and screen talks of everything he did and it has millions, 646 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 8: millions and millions of yous. So you know, I'm I'm 647 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 8: not giving up. And when it's time to speak up 648 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 8: and do something, I will do something. 649 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: So on the subject, on the subject of Charlie Kirk's assassination, again, 650 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: there were obvious references in the aftermath of this that 651 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 1: the shooter had had some relationship he thought with a 652 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: trans person. There's someone who is transitioning, and did not 653 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 1: like the truth that Charlie Kirk was speaking about how 654 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: God made us as men and women and you can't 655 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: just simply decide one day that you're going to be 656 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: the other. And I when I heard when I heard 657 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: it happen. When I saw the video, which was horrific, 658 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: of it happening as millions of Americans, millions of people 659 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: around the world saw it, I couldn't believe this was 660 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: happening in Utah. But you've been you've been kind of 661 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: blowing the horns, so to speak, about even in a 662 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: supposed conservative red state like Utah, the crazies are alive 663 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: and well, and the anti American and the anti Christian 664 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: community is alive and well in that state. Can you 665 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: elaborate on that a little bit more? 666 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 8: Well, yes, sort of a two factor situation here in Utah. 667 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 8: First of all, the world needs to know Utah is 668 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 8: not a red state. We are not a red state 669 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 8: for two reasons. We are the third highest city receiving immigrants, illegals, everybody. 670 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 8: We are a sanctuary state. Regardless of what our pathetic, 671 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 8: spineless governor, Spencer Cock says, we are being flooded. We 672 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 8: are the third top city for receiving immigrants. We give 673 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 8: them driver's licensees, we cater to them. I'm currently trying 674 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 8: to help a homeless schizophrenic friend can't find any resources, 675 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 8: but the legals are taken care of, so our allegedly 676 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 8: Republican leadership. Charlie Kirk himself called out our fate governor 677 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 8: a number of times, and so we have that, we 678 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 8: have that element. And then because of the Mormon culture 679 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 8: that was very you know, dominant in the past, it's 680 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 8: not so much anymore. The people who step away from 681 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 8: the Mormon Church go berserk. They go absolutely berserk. So 682 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 8: I've been assaulted here. I've been you know, I've had 683 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 8: to be escorted to my car by the police at 684 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 8: the capitol after testifying to stop transmutilation of children. And 685 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 8: the radical element here is I mean, if you're doing 686 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 8: some trans whatever rally at our state capitol, they have 687 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 8: thousands and thousands of people. We have a pro life 688 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 8: or conservative event up there, You've got maybe one hundred people. 689 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 8: So we're in a lot of deep trouble here in Utah, 690 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 8: and people assume that we're a red state and we're not. 691 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 8: It's absolutely heartbreaking. And of course the fact that Charlie 692 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 8: Kirk shooting happened here, I was not surprised at all. 693 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: We are rapidly. 694 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 8: Crumbling into the Colorado of the sequel and it's heartbreaking 695 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 8: to watch. 696 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this, Ryan is this, this 697 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: new wave of trans violence surprising to you in the 698 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: wake of how evil this militant movement is, you know, 699 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: all of the Satanic references and the as you mentioned, 700 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 1: the transmutilation of children and the indoctrination of children as 701 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 1: young as three or four years old with drag Queen's 702 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: Story Hour and the like. I mean, for you, as 703 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: a person who's lived there life as a gay man 704 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: for years, even though you've been celibate for years, that's 705 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: got to really really discussed you as much as it 706 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 1: discussed anybody else. 707 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 8: Oh more so more so because I get linked in 708 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 8: with them, and there is a massive exodus of common 709 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 8: sense white gay men who are just like, no, you 710 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 8: know what, this was over, We're living our lives. What 711 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 8: people like me want is just to be a good American, 712 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 8: love my country, love God, and do my darn best 713 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 8: to be a good guy. I don't need special treatment. 714 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 8: I don't need people to know how special I am 715 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 8: because I'm a homosexual who cares. I don't care, And 716 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 8: so that's the most frustrating thing. And also, you know, 717 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 8: as a drag artist that's really good at what I did. 718 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 8: I performed in like a celebrity impersonation show. As Britney spears, 719 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,240 Speaker 8: it was good times. But I just hate that people 720 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 8: might associate me with the lea vaginal horror whatever. They 721 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 8: hired it at Harvard. 722 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: You know, you're talking about Lahore Vagistan, not like I 723 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: want to normalize her by actually pronouncing her name. You know, 724 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: I thought, with the advent of President Trump and people 725 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: kind of just getting a grip on all of this, 726 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: that the woke trans stuff was over at places like 727 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: Harvard and with the President, you know, withholding federal funds 728 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: and the like. And then they hire this so called 729 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: traveling professor. I don't know where it came from, but 730 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: Lahore Vagistan, that's just been in the news here the 731 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,280 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. 732 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 8: Ryan and No, It's unbelievable. And the number one person 733 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 8: right now who is standing up against this nonsense, in 734 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 8: my opinion, is Elon Musk. He is sweeting or you know, 735 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:09,280 Speaker 8: posting about it and fighting it. And unfortunately here in Utah. 736 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 8: I yes, I'm against the radical left, but we have 737 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 8: to point out that there's a magazine here in Utah 738 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,720 Speaker 8: called Queer Salt Lake. It is the most leftist, vile 739 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 8: publication They named our so called Republican governor Spencer Coox 740 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 8: as Person of the Year in twenty twenty four, and 741 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 8: I've been posting about it. It's so frustrating because sometimes 742 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 8: even people on our side, so to speak, are not 743 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 8: doing what they need to be doing to fight this. 744 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 8: He detailed the bill to keep men out of women's sports, 745 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 8: and so that's why I'm just double frustrated in our 746 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 8: state we have. You know, God bless the Mormons. I 747 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 8: grew up Mormon. I went on a Mormon mission to France. 748 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 8: God bless them over all. They're very good people, but 749 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 8: they fold their hands and their number one priorities to 750 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 8: avoid contention. They think that being a good Christian or 751 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 8: whatever is to avoid contention and never offend anyone. And 752 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 8: that weak, emasculated attitude has and will continue to destroy 753 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 8: our state. There comes a time when as a Christian 754 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 8: you need to stand up boldly and say you do 755 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 8: not mutilate children. You will rot in hell if you 756 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 8: mutilate little children. That is what a Christian does, in 757 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 8: my opinion. You stand up for the lowest of the low. 758 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 8: And there comes a time to, you know, metaphorical, draw 759 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,760 Speaker 8: your sword and stand up. But it just doesn't happen 760 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 8: in Utah. Like I said, all the rallies and things, 761 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,720 Speaker 8: nobody shows up. And when I was we got Senate 762 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 8: Bill sixteen passed, thank goodness, you know, against the will 763 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 8: of Spencer Cock. But I was testifying with Chloe Cole. 764 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 8: I don't know if you've heard of her. Yeah, the 765 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 8: young woman who regrets being mutilated and groomed into doing that. 766 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 8: So she and I presented a build I was able 767 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 8: to present. Hey, I like to do drag, I wear 768 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 8: a wig and makeup. I'm not a woman. I'm not 769 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 8: going into a woman's bathroom. I'm not going to try to, 770 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 8: you know, invade women's sports. And because I've always liked 771 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 8: these feminine things, you know, Barbie's, Disney Princess whatever, when 772 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 8: I was a kid, I would have been groomed and 773 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 8: trans had I been born today. So she and I 774 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 8: presented the build, and every other person who testified against 775 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 8: us claimed to be a devout morning with a three 776 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 8: year old trans chuck. It was unbelievable. So I moved 777 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 8: back to Utah from Boston, back to my roots here 778 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 8: because I wanted to be in a red conservative, safe, 779 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 8: you know, clean state, and it still is for the 780 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 8: most part. But the people here, most of them don't 781 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 8: even like Trump because he is too contentious and he 782 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 8: says mean things. And this weakness just kills me. It's 783 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:13,720 Speaker 8: really pathetic. 784 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 4: Why. 785 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry you're you're on a roll like you always are. Ryan. 786 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,959 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. But the question I have for you, 787 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: and I don't know if you can answer it because 788 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: I don't have an answer. Yes, why do you think 789 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: that this trans movement and it is it is an evil, 790 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: satanic movement? I believe that. Why do you think it 791 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 1: has become and been able to become so violent? I 792 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 1: know there's a I know there's a group out there 793 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: called the Armed Armed Queers of Salt Lake City. 794 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, I know why. I can explain why. Before I 795 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 8: stepped away from the drag world, and you know that 796 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 8: the stream sort of LGBTQ people, I got along with them. 797 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,240 Speaker 8: You know, not all of them. 798 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 3: Are evil, horrible people, but. 799 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 8: I did get to know a few trans people. One person, 800 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 8: we were doing a performance and the dude had a 801 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 8: beard and he was like, backup to answer. I had 802 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 8: no idea. It was a former, it was a woman, 803 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:30,919 Speaker 8: and this person was always in a fight always freaking out, 804 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 8: always sweating, always nervous, always like horribly imbalanced. Because it 805 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 8: was a woman being pumped full of testosterone. That leads 806 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 8: to imbalance, That leads to vitriol, it leads to violence, 807 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 8: it leads to psychosis. Yes, same thing with the man 808 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 8: taking estrogen. What is estrogen. It's an emotional hormone. You 809 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 8: start pumping your body full of that and you're gonna 810 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 8: become unhinged because it destroys your ability to think rationally. 811 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:00,439 Speaker 3: Of course it does. 812 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,919 Speaker 8: So these people, as much as I pity most of them, 813 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 8: most of them are just very sad, miserable, lost individuals 814 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 8: who are just you know, victims of satanic grooming and influence. 815 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 8: But the ones who do turn violent, the ones who 816 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 8: are screaming in that face, like I'm like, we can 817 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 8: have a conversation, we can have a conversation. Let's go 818 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 8: back and forth there, and I'm just calm, but they're 819 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 8: screaming as you af you trans rights, their humans rights, 820 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 8: trans rights our human rights. So it's because of the hormones. 821 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 8: I mean, this is the bottom line, Dan, If you 822 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 8: started bumping yourself full of estrogen, you would lose your mind. 823 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 8: So would I well, I mean, does that make sense? 824 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does, It makes perfect sense. And I know 825 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: she's not up and listening right now, but I'm glad 826 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 1: my wife has gone through the change. So I'm not 827 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm not exposed to all that estrogen by osmosis anymore. 828 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: It's a much more calm it's a much more calm household. 829 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 8: No, it's true. Any woman's going to admit. Yeah, these 830 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 8: are difficult hormones to deal with. Yeah, and so a 831 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 8: man pumping them unnaturally into their body becomes I mean, 832 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 8: I've just seen it firsthanded, all these rallies and and 833 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 8: you know, going to the Capitol, and like I said 834 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 8: last time I was testifying, I was trying to have 835 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 8: a conversation. The news had their cameras on me, and 836 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 8: these people were screaming and surrounding me, and the police 837 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 8: just said, sir, sir, we're going to go ahead and 838 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 8: escort you as you leave because you're not safe. Because 839 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,879 Speaker 8: I was just going to walk back to my car after. 840 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 8: And so that is what we're dealing with. The left 841 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 8: hates light so much. It's like a vampire. Yeah, but 842 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 8: when the light and they start to they start to 843 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 8: squeal and freak out and it's because you know, darkness 844 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 8: hates light, liars hate truth speakers, and they're deeply depressed. 845 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 8: They are deeply miserable, and nine out of ten of 846 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 8: them are not deliberately embracing evil, but they have been 847 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 8: swept up in it. They have been brainwashed. And people 848 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 8: really need to look into the origins of this movement. 849 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 8: They need to look up the individuals who started this movement, 850 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 8: who have pushed this movement, because it's been very, very 851 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 8: carefully orchestrated. The downfall of our moral society is it's 852 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 8: been carefully orchestrated for a long time and people just 853 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,320 Speaker 8: don't take a stand. And you know, the trans movement, 854 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 8: the drag movement. I just listened to Taylor Swift's new album. 855 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 8: She talks about cocaine, she talks about the size of 856 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 8: male anatomy, she talks about opening her I mean, it's vulgar, 857 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 8: it's vile, right, So this is society wide. LGBTQ is 858 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 8: probably the most radicalized, crazy group pushing all of this, 859 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 8: but it's it's everywhere, and we have to come back 860 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 8: to Christ. I don't care they're homosexual like me. I'm 861 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 8: sober three years because I gave my heart to Jesus 862 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 8: Christ on January seventh, twenty twenty three. And we are 863 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 8: all sinners, we are all imperfect. But unless we believe 864 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,359 Speaker 8: in a higher power, higher than the government, higher than 865 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 8: university professors, higher than you know, social. 866 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 1: Media well and first and foremost Brian, higher than ourselves. 867 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 8: That's exactly right. Not my truth, the truth right. And 868 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 8: we're a Christian nation and we've lost that foundation, and 869 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 8: that is why we're crumbling, because you know, without God, 870 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 8: we are one nation under God, not one nation under 871 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 8: science experts and lgbt QIA plus experts and Harvard professors. 872 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 8: So I just I hope that I do see an awakening. 873 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 8: There is more backlash against the trans nonsense than there 874 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 8: ever has been before. I do think they the world 875 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 8: has heard the message with the Dylan mulvaney thing with 876 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 8: bud Light, because your average American doesn't want to be 877 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 8: mean to trans people. We don't want to hurt them, 878 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 8: but we will not allow them to invade our children's minds. 879 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 8: We will not allow them to take over. They don't 880 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 8: want inclusion, they want dominance. They want it to be 881 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 8: illegal for you and I to disagree with them. 882 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: They probably they probably would would want this conversation to 883 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 1: be illegal as a matter of fact, and not be 884 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,759 Speaker 1: on the ear. I'm glad that we had it. It's 885 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,839 Speaker 1: so great to talk to you, and I swear if 886 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: you've got time, we will do it again soon. But 887 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 1: we got to go. Okay. 888 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 8: Well, God bless you, Gary, thank you so much. It 889 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 8: was an honor. 890 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 1: God bless you, and thank you for disseminating the truth. Yes, 891 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 1: all right, my friend Ryan Wood on the Nightcap on 892 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 1: a Saturday night on seven hundred WLW. 893 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,880 Speaker 9: Listening to a man standing in the park is in funny. 894 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 9: Listening to a man standing in the park getting hit 895 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 9: in the groin with. 896 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 1: A frisbee Oach migroin is funny. Eddie and Rocky are 897 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 1: also funny. 898 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,400 Speaker 9: So when you think of getting hit. 899 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 6: In the groin, Oach migroin, think of. 900 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 1: Eddie and Rocky, Eddie and Rocky. Monday afternoon at. 901 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:33,319 Speaker 5: Three on seven hundred WLW, don't be haunted by the 902 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 5: old stains in your carpet, calls Zera's carpet and dark cleaning. 903 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 1: Now three rooms. As I told you before the break, 904 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 1: Our next guest is Jeff Horowitz, who is Jeff Morrowitz. 905 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 1: He's a fitness guy into coaching and training when it 906 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 1: comes to running, and he has a brand new book 907 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,280 Speaker 1: called The Running bucket List, one hundred and six Ideas 908 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 1: to inspire every and Jeff, welcome to the show. I 909 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,839 Speaker 1: wanted to have you on because Cincinnati is such a 910 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 1: huge running community. I mean, the Flying Pig. The Flying 911 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,439 Speaker 1: Pig is maybe should be on your running bucket list. 912 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 10: If it's not, it should be, and it is. 913 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 11: It is not in a book, and I apologize for that. 914 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 11: There's so many great races in so many places it's 915 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 11: really hard to pick. But I know Cincinnati well, I've 916 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 11: done a lot of running there, but I have not 917 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 11: done that race and is absolutely on my list. And 918 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,359 Speaker 11: thank you for having me on your show. I'm looking 919 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:33,280 Speaker 11: forward to our conversation. 920 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 1: All right. So seemingly, I mean almost every weekend during 921 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 1: this this is something I noticed. I moved up here 922 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 1: from Nashville, Tennessee, and there were some runs there and 923 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 1: they had a marathon forget what it was even cold. 924 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 1: It was probably a gobbler runner, a turkey trot around Thanksgiving, 925 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,240 Speaker 1: and we have one of those here. But I noticed 926 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 1: instantly when I moved to the Cincinnati area in nineteen 927 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 1: ninety four, or that there was in the summer. In 928 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: the spring and summer there was like a ten k 929 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,320 Speaker 1: of five k, a marathon or something like that almost 930 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,320 Speaker 1: every weekend once the weather got nice. 931 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 11: Yes, And you know it's funny because it had not 932 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 11: always been this way. You know, I'm old enough to 933 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 11: remember the old days. When you know runners have thought 934 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 11: of it is a little bit crazy, and maybe we 935 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 11: still are, but certainly unusual. And there's a whole myth 936 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 11: about the loneliness of the long distance runner and how 937 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,839 Speaker 11: we're a strange tribe and we're loaners and you know, 938 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 11: we do that because we can't do other things like 939 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 11: play football or baseball or something. And our coach has 940 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,840 Speaker 11: really evolved to it's become these really great gathering places 941 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 11: for our community, especially since the pandemic ended, and people 942 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 11: have this pent up need to get out there, I think, 943 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 11: and become part of community again. And running clubs have 944 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 11: exploded because of that, and races are all over the place. 945 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:52,840 Speaker 3: And what I love about. 946 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 11: It it's also inclusive, right if you want to if 947 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 11: you want to be competitive, if you want to run fast, 948 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 11: go for it, try and win that's fine if you 949 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 11: want to just have a good time and chat with 950 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,360 Speaker 11: your friends, if you want to walk. So many of 951 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 11: these races include that wide range of participants, So whatever 952 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 11: you want to do, you're welcome in this group. 953 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 3: And I love that about our sport. 954 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,360 Speaker 1: One of the things that I do besides radio is 955 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 1: a bartend. And a couple of years back, about thirty 956 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 1: forty people come into the bar where I'm working, which 957 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 1: was great. I was a little dead, so I was 958 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 1: like happy to see people and they just they're ordering 959 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 1: beer after beer, and they've got all these chants and 960 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,800 Speaker 1: songs that they're doing. They were called a drinking club 961 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 1: with a running problem. 962 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 11: I kid you, right, and I'm gonna guess actually, it's 963 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 11: a small world. 964 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 3: I know these folks. 965 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,840 Speaker 11: So these are probably the hash house harriers. 966 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah they are hash housers. 967 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 968 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 11: So it's yeah, drinkers with a running problem. And that 969 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 11: described as well, because you know, runners want to have fun, 970 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 11: and especially when you've gone for a nice run if 971 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 11: you spent. I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, 972 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 11: but we get a certain sentiment title, right, you know, 973 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,840 Speaker 11: I worked hard, I deserve a little something. I deserve 974 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 11: a beer after a run, or you know, a big 975 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 11: double teezburg or whatever you know you might have and 976 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,320 Speaker 11: I should say, you know, please and goes within reason. 977 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 11: But yeah, I treat yourself. Life is to be enjoyed, 978 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 11: and to me, running is part of the enjoyment. But 979 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 11: I'm not as spartan. I'm not stilling, you know. 980 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 3: I want to have a good time. 981 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 11: And you know, running with a bunch of friends and 982 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 11: going for a beer afterwards sounds great. 983 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 1: The book is just out now. It's the Running bucket List, 984 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,440 Speaker 1: one hundred and six ideas to inspire every runner. And 985 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 1: you have are you about your running the Chicago Marathon 986 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 1: again or you did? Or explain that. 987 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 3: Well, I'll play with on my list. 988 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,920 Speaker 11: And you know, these are the times you live in. 989 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 11: Who knows what's going to happen. But I am registered 990 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 11: for the Army ten miler on Sunday, so that'll be 991 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 11: tomorrow morning. And you know, as of right now, you know, 992 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 11: I'm not sure if it's being run. Maybe it will 993 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 11: have been canceled. I don't know yet because of the 994 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 11: government shutdown. After that, I am registered for the fiftieth 995 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 11: money of the Marine Corps Marathon, which will be in 996 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,560 Speaker 11: another two weeks, and that race is near, and dear 997 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 11: to me, it's in my book. 998 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 3: It was the first marathon I ever ran. 999 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 11: I've run it many times over the years, and that 1000 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 11: went that this culfs up because of the government shutdown. 1001 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 11: So I know that there are a lot of people 1002 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 11: suffering because of that, you know, and not being able 1003 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 11: to run a. 1004 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 3: Race is hardly the worst thing that could happen. 1005 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 11: And yet you know, our lives are disrupted, and now 1006 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 11: I'm well, there's so many that are out there. I'll 1007 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 11: just have to find somewhere else to run. And if 1008 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 11: I can't find a race, I'll just get to the other 1009 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:34,439 Speaker 11: some friends and go for a run. 1010 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 1: Well, you're probably even happier that you don't work for 1011 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 1: the federal government anymore, you know, I. 1012 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 3: Used to for many years. 1013 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 11: I remember going through a shutdown then, and my sympthy 1014 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 11: goes out to all the you know, the civil service 1015 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 11: who was stuck in the crossss here have no control 1016 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 11: over it. So I'm sorry for all you guys. 1017 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 1: So is there one piece of advice you would give 1018 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 1: just someone who has always thought about it and kind 1019 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,160 Speaker 1: of dabbled in it but never really got into it. 1020 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 1: What advice would Jeff Horowitz give to the aspiring runner 1021 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 1: who hasn't really made that commitment yet. 1022 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I've thought a lot about this and 1023 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 11: my answer is going to be surprisingly simple, and it's 1024 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 11: more complex than it sounds. 1025 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 3: That really gets to the heart of all of this. 1026 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 3: Make it fun. You know. 1027 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 11: I see so many people who dislike running because they 1028 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,320 Speaker 11: have made it into something that isn't fun. Running is 1029 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 11: supposed to be fun. I love evolutionary and biology to 1030 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 11: discover the ways in which we've evolved to be the 1031 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,480 Speaker 11: creatures that we are. We have evolved to run, and 1032 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 11: this is how our species developed and how we became 1033 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,480 Speaker 11: top of the food chain because we're able to catch, 1034 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 11: pray and not become prey, and run great distances. Our 1035 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 11: bodies amaze at this. But what I see again again 1036 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 11: as a coach, people when they run, they go too far, 1037 00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 11: too fast, too soon in their training, and they make 1038 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 11: it miserable. Running should be miserable. My wife, when she 1039 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 11: first started running, she said, well, you know, maybe I'll 1040 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 11: just go and run and see how far I can go. 1041 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 11: I said, no, whyting you go for a little bit 1042 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 11: and stop? Maybe the next th eight go a little 1043 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 11: bit further, because if you go into you can't go anymore. 1044 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 11: All you'll guaranteed is that you'll be unhappy at the end. 1045 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 11: Don't make it. Don't make it something that you won't enjoy. 1046 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 11: So find your pace. Find someplace where you can, you know, 1047 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 11: enjoy the scenery. Maybe go with a friend you like, 1048 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 11: but go at a pace that feels easy for you 1049 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 11: and comfortable, where you can talk and enjoy yourself and 1050 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 11: get away from it all. To me, running is like meditation. 1051 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 11: It's it's an escape for my problem. It's a way 1052 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,920 Speaker 11: to deal with things that you know need to be 1053 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 11: dealt with that I have to think through. It's my 1054 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 11: personal private refuge and someplace I share with friends. It's 1055 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 11: fun for me, and everybody should make it a fun thing. 1056 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 3: Well, hopeful, figure it out. 1057 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 1: Hopefully we will see you at the next Flying Pig 1058 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 1: here in Cincinnati. 1059 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 3: Bye. I hope. 1060 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 11: So I'm really looking forward to trying that one sounds 1061 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 11: like a great lad. 1062 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,120 Speaker 1: The book is out now, The Running bucket List. It's 1063 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 1: one hundred and six ideas to inspire every runner. And 1064 01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 1: the man is Jeff Horwitz. A pleasure talking to you. 1065 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 1: Jeff enjoyed it. 1066 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,440 Speaker 11: Thank you. So much I appreciated. 1067 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 1: All right, great luck and keep running. 1068 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 3: Man. 1069 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 1: It's a nightcap on a Saturday night on seven hundred WLW. 1070 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 6: Picture this your wallet, step to the brim with the 1071 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 6: beautiful bills. 1072 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:29,120 Speaker 9: Thousand dollars could be yours. She's listening for your. 1073 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 1: Next chance to win. When you've been hurt, you need 1074 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,840 Speaker 1: more than just advice. You need results. 1075 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 6: At O'Connor, Chaney and Levy, personal injury law is what 1076 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 6: we do. 1077 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 1: Insurance companies know. We're not afraid of court. 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He's not 1085 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 1: Jeane Jean the dancing machine, but bye gosh, he's pretty 1086 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 1: knowledgeable and pretty entertaining anyway, and JP Morgan is not 1087 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 1: going to gong him out of existence before we finished 1088 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 1: this hour, Ladies and gentlemen from moneymusic dot com, my 1089 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 1: buddy Mighty John Marshall, the Ultimate Vinyl Appraiser is joining 1090 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 1: us with a new top top ten list for October 1091 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 1: of vinyl valuable vinyl worth one hundred dollars up to 1092 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars or more. And I say up to John, 1093 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 1: because if you've got a piece of crap vinyl that 1094 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 1: you can't plan a turntable, it's not worth anything. But 1095 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 1: if you have the following records we will detail in 1096 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 1: this hour of tonight's program, you may be sitting on 1097 01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:03,680 Speaker 1: a virtual vinyl gold mine, well maybe a nugget or two. 1098 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,880 Speaker 1: So so, John, how are you doing and how do 1099 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 1: you how do you come up with your appraisals? 1100 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 3: I've always wondered how do you get this? Well, you 1101 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,640 Speaker 3: know I've started this doing this. I've got the website 1102 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 3: now for almost thirty years, and I was doing this 1103 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 3: twenty years before that. And we started together, me and 1104 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 3: a love guy about oh fifty years ago, putting together 1105 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 3: list of what people were buying, not at that time 1106 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,720 Speaker 3: on the internet, but through trade magazines and such, and 1107 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,280 Speaker 3: then figuring out how many of these things were released. 1108 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,720 Speaker 3: So that's one where we put a price on our value, 1109 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,240 Speaker 3: is to know how many were issued and what's the 1110 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 3: current market value. That's why you can determine whether you 1111 01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 3: should sell it, keep it, or trash it. 1112 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 1: All right, So, I mean there is kind of an 1113 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,320 Speaker 1: arbitrary element to it, right, you'll admit that. 1114 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,040 Speaker 3: Well, you can't say, like a record is worth ninety 1115 01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 3: eight dollars. Three cents can't be bad exact, but you 1116 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 3: can certainly get from the ballpark. And that's why we 1117 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,720 Speaker 3: round it off. In this case, ten records worth up 1118 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 3: to one. 1119 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:12,600 Speaker 1: All right, The first one is pretty darn famous. I 1120 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 1: mean it is this This record is almost as iconic 1121 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 1: as the performer is. But what have we got at 1122 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 1: number ten this week or this month in Mighty money 1123 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 1: music dot COM's list of valuable vinyl. 1124 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 3: Well, this guy has a lot of valuable records. This 1125 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,360 Speaker 3: is just one of them. But in nineteen seventy one, 1126 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,479 Speaker 3: Marvin Day released the album What's going On? Current Value 1127 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:36,840 Speaker 3: Up two? 1128 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:39,840 Speaker 1: I love this. 1129 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 12: That's too many of you crying, brother, brother, brother, there's 1130 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 12: far too many love you die. 1131 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,440 Speaker 4: You know, we've got time. 1132 01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 10: To break some love it here today. 1133 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:31,000 Speaker 13: Hey, Bob the Father, we don't need to escalade. 1134 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 10: Let me see what is not the others. We're all 1135 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 10: in love and you know we've got the mind a way. 1136 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 14: To ring some love it here the other day. 1137 01:05:53,480 --> 01:06:00,080 Speaker 10: P get left and pick excience to huns shades when. 1138 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:09,439 Speaker 1: So you can see what's going on. 1139 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 10: What's going on. 1140 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 1: Is a nightcap on a Saturday night on seven hundred 1141 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 1: WLW have a little taste of Marvin Gaye for you 1142 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 1: and John, without any further adi you. Let's get to 1143 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:25,400 Speaker 1: number nine real quickly on moneymusic dot COM's top ten list. 1144 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,240 Speaker 1: What have we got here? And this is a style 1145 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:29,760 Speaker 1: of music I absolutely love. 1146 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the guy that really started at all. 1147 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,439 Speaker 3: Not the Beach Boys, not Jan Anddine, Dick Dale, king 1148 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 3: of the surf guitar. He was from Boston, but everybody 1149 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 3: associates with California. 1150 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,640 Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, he sounds like he's on a beach somewhere. 1151 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,080 Speaker 1: I guess they do have beaches in Boston, but anyway 1152 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:48,440 Speaker 1: they do. 1153 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 3: Yes, take up a surf guitar, Dick Dale. Current value 1154 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:52,600 Speaker 3: up to one. 1155 01:06:53,520 --> 01:07:44,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's give that listen. You know, John, A 1156 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 1: lot of people never were exposed to that, at least 1157 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 1: people who are old enough to experience sixty surf music 1158 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,480 Speaker 1: when it was out until the movie Pulp Fiction came out, 1159 01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,200 Speaker 1: which is this song prominently featured in that of course. 1160 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 3: That's correct, that's correct, Nick Dale, All right. 1161 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,160 Speaker 1: All right? Uh so number eight on the Money music 1162 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:11,880 Speaker 1: dot Com countdown on with the countdown? What's it? Number eight? John? 1163 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 3: A lot of people thought it was Eldest, but it 1164 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,800 Speaker 3: was a guy by the name of Rolddonner who had 1165 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,479 Speaker 3: a lot of hips, even had Elvis's band backing him 1166 01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,800 Speaker 3: up and the Jordanaires as well. His album Taking Care 1167 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,920 Speaker 3: of Business Current Valley up to two hundred dollars. 1168 01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,880 Speaker 1: So this is TCB in a flash without ep. 1169 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:30,840 Speaker 3: You got it. 1170 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 1: It's round Donner here he is. 1171 01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:39,400 Speaker 15: You don't know what you don't until you it. 1172 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,679 Speaker 10: You gave me your love. 1173 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,439 Speaker 3: My used didn't. 1174 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 10: And now I'm sorry. 1175 01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:56,759 Speaker 16: For the things I didn't say, because I know now 1176 01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:02,040 Speaker 16: I acted in a foolish way. 1177 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 15: Oh yeah, oh yeah. You don't know what you've got 1178 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:19,599 Speaker 15: until you lose it. You gave me your love. 1179 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:26,760 Speaker 10: But I misused it. I never knew. 1180 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:33,559 Speaker 17: How lonely lonliness could be. And now I need you, 1181 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,920 Speaker 17: dear as you once needed me. 1182 01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,360 Speaker 4: Oh oh. 1183 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yell. 1184 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:50,880 Speaker 14: So now if you ever come to this lonely heart to. 1185 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,719 Speaker 4: You on, I give. 1186 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:54,800 Speaker 14: You all my. 1187 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,840 Speaker 4: Like you never know. 1188 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,479 Speaker 15: You've got it. 1189 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 4: Too. 1190 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 1: You gave me, you know, John, I can understand how 1191 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,080 Speaker 1: some people thought he sounded more like Elvis than Elvis himself. 1192 01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:21,320 Speaker 1: But it kind of reminds me of Terry Stafford, who 1193 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,160 Speaker 1: had suspicion out And the first time I heard that record, 1194 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know it wasn't Elvis. But there were a 1195 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,360 Speaker 1: couple of people who were making records at the time. 1196 01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,120 Speaker 1: They saw that formula and they well, this guy's voice 1197 01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,040 Speaker 1: is kind of similar. Let's see if we can make 1198 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,320 Speaker 1: this sound as much like Elvis as possible and ride 1199 01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:38,760 Speaker 1: that train. You know. 1200 01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,040 Speaker 3: Very well with ral Donner, that's for sure. He was 1201 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:42,920 Speaker 3: a big Elvis fan. 1202 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 1: Now, do most people like when they find something or 1203 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:55,639 Speaker 1: when they contact you, have you actually purchased vinyl from 1204 01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,040 Speaker 1: people that have contacted money music dot Com and and 1205 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,519 Speaker 1: given them the market value you claim that they have 1206 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,560 Speaker 1: for condition like copies. 1207 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,200 Speaker 3: We do purchase you just go to the website, we 1208 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,360 Speaker 3: get a little link right there, we buy, we sell, 1209 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,599 Speaker 3: and yeah, we'll give you fair market value. 1210 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:18,080 Speaker 1: All right, cool, fantastic man. So, if anybody's tuned in 1211 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:22,479 Speaker 1: and they've got any of these things we're describing and 1212 01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,599 Speaker 1: and say, you know, the bully down the street who 1213 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 1: collects records doesn't want to give them their fair market value. 1214 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:33,520 Speaker 1: Maybe they can contact you, all right, John Marshall, Moneymusic 1215 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,800 Speaker 1: dot Com our guest on this special nightcap top ten 1216 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,160 Speaker 1: records vinyl worth up to one hundred dollars or more. 1217 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,559 Speaker 1: And we're moving right up the list. And this is 1218 01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:47,839 Speaker 1: another song that anybody who's listened to to sixties music 1219 01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,080 Speaker 1: or rock and roll for that matter, over the course 1220 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:54,960 Speaker 1: of the last sixty plus years knows very well. And 1221 01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 1: this is a This is a surprise to me because 1222 01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,479 Speaker 1: sometimes there are very popular records that can be worth 1223 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:03,120 Speaker 1: a lot, right. 1224 01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 3: John, Well, in the case of this, it's the album 1225 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:09,200 Speaker 3: that's worth the money. Forty five the album by the 1226 01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:14,080 Speaker 3: Trogs wild Thing carr value up to two hundred dollars. 1227 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:18,200 Speaker 1: All right, written in fifteen minutes, I understand, which. 1228 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,400 Speaker 3: By John Voight's brother Chick Taylor. 1229 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,600 Speaker 1: Here you go, let's crack into it one time, a 1230 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:50,720 Speaker 1: little wild Thing on seven hundred WLW Wow grooving Wow. 1231 01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:00,840 Speaker 18: Wild Thing. Think I love you, but I. 1232 01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:02,759 Speaker 10: Don't know for sure. 1233 01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:23,920 Speaker 18: Come on, hol me tell I love you. 1234 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:23,720 Speaker 4: Wow Man. 1235 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:38,520 Speaker 14: You make my house say you're my guest plane, wild Name. 1236 01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:08,919 Speaker 18: Wild Thing, think you show. 1237 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:16,640 Speaker 4: You? 1238 01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Now, the lead vocals on that John by 1239 01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:28,280 Speaker 1: a guy named Red Presley. We've had Elvis Presley, not impersonators, 1240 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,120 Speaker 1: but someday so that you know, he sounds exactly like 1241 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:36,840 Speaker 1: Red Presley on that song. Oddly enough. Oddly enough, And 1242 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:42,640 Speaker 1: when you said the trogs and I mentioned the term troglodite, 1243 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:47,160 Speaker 1: Uh I was I was talking about? And you were 1244 01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:48,920 Speaker 1: talking about that they got the name for the band 1245 01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:50,400 Speaker 1: from actual troglodites. 1246 01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, from the band itself. 1247 01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:58,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but yes, from the from the Neanderthals or whatever 1248 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:02,360 Speaker 1: they were U the cave Man cave Women, And I 1249 01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,799 Speaker 1: instantly thought of the Jimmy Castor bunch and the novelty 1250 01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,960 Speaker 1: hit Troglodyte Got a fun, A woman got a fun, 1251 01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:16,680 Speaker 1: A woman gotta find a woman move. I love that 1252 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:21,000 Speaker 1: any any just offhand, since since I brought up Troglodytes 1253 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,960 Speaker 1: by the Jay, what what that that forty five is worth? 1254 01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:24,679 Speaker 1: If anything? 1255 01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,439 Speaker 3: Maybe up to ten dollars? Maybe up to. 1256 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:31,480 Speaker 1: Ten, but only in good condition. Find find a Troglodyte 1257 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:35,760 Speaker 1: in good condition, and I'll give you ten bucks. What 1258 01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,599 Speaker 1: was that great record? Oh yeah, fun stuff, fun stuff, 1259 01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,879 Speaker 1: and we got more fun stuff ahead on this Saturday 1260 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,200 Speaker 1: night nightcap first of the fall season here on seven 1261 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:49,479 Speaker 1: hundred WLW back with Mighty John Marshall Moneymusic dot Com. 1262 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,200 Speaker 1: We'll get to the top five on your list after 1263 01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:56,000 Speaker 1: the news break. But John, let people know again what 1264 01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,280 Speaker 1: money music dot Com can offer them if they are 1265 01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:03,920 Speaker 1: a vinyl connoisseur as you are, and they would like 1266 01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,759 Speaker 1: to have a list of what their collection is worth. 1267 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:10,479 Speaker 3: Well, two ways to find out. You can go to 1268 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,600 Speaker 3: the website and for a dollar you can find a 1269 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,160 Speaker 3: value of any record online. Or if you have more 1270 01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 3: than say twenty five records, consider our price guide listing 1271 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:22,479 Speaker 3: the values for over a million records. It's a flash drive. 1272 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,080 Speaker 3: Pop it into your computer, look up the values. Four 1273 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,920 Speaker 3: twenty four ninety five. All right, we pay the shipping. 1274 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:33,120 Speaker 1: A cool monymusic dot Com and we will continue with 1275 01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 1: this month's October countdown a Valuable Vinyl coming up after 1276 01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:42,639 Speaker 1: the news break, which is now on seven hundred WLW. 1277 01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:48,040 Speaker 9: News Traffic and Weather News Radio seven hundred WLW Cincinnati. 1278 01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,799 Speaker 6: The promised federal layoffs are now underway as the government 1279 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:58,320 Speaker 6: shut down reaches day eleven. With your eleven thirty report. 1280 01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:00,240 Speaker 6: I'm Travis Laird King. 1281 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:00,559 Speaker 3: Now. 1282 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:04,520 Speaker 6: President Trump has called it an opportunity to cut agencies 1283 01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,200 Speaker 6: that don't fit his vision. Here's ABC's Karen Travers with more. 1284 01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,479 Speaker 19: The White House has said that these cuts are going 1285 01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,479 Speaker 19: to be substantial, and they have been threatening to fire 1286 01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,880 Speaker 19: thousands of workers during this government shutdown. The President has 1287 01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,120 Speaker 19: said that this is an unprecedented opportunity to carry out 1288 01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:23,960 Speaker 19: cuts to programs and staff that he feels don't fit 1289 01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:27,479 Speaker 19: his vision. Democrat agencies has he's referred to them, but 1290 01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,479 Speaker 19: the White House says they need to make these cuts 1291 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,200 Speaker 19: in order to keep essential services going. But we have 1292 01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,360 Speaker 19: been told that these are going to be substantial and 1293 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:35,960 Speaker 19: likely there will be more to come. 1294 01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,400 Speaker 6: In North Carolina, TSA union leaders are trying to fill 1295 01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:43,840 Speaker 6: the gap for workers who've missed pay. Union leader Mac 1296 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,120 Speaker 6: Johnson says they're using union funds to help keep food 1297 01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:48,000 Speaker 6: on the table. 1298 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 20: We're going to try to reappropriate a portion about budget 1299 01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:58,639 Speaker 20: to provide non personal food, personal HOIGI items, these things 1300 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,360 Speaker 20: of that nature. They help them out as much as 1301 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:01,160 Speaker 20: we possibly can. 1302 01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,840 Speaker 6: With Congress out until Tuesday, the shutdown will roll into 1303 01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,840 Speaker 6: a twelfth and thirteenth day. It has been four one 1304 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,320 Speaker 6: hundred nineteen days since Donald Trump promised to release the 1305 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,559 Speaker 6: Epstein files. Now, let's take a look at the lateness, traffic, 1306 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,400 Speaker 6: and weather together. No major accidents or slowdowns to report 1307 01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:21,800 Speaker 6: throughout the Try State this hour. Look out for each other, everybody. 1308 01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,040 Speaker 9: Now the ladies forecast from the Train Heating and Cooling 1309 01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:29,680 Speaker 9: Weather Center on news radio seven hundred WLW. 1310 01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,879 Speaker 21: It was another fall like day and that will continue 1311 01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,680 Speaker 21: for our Sunday as well. We'll wake up to temperatures 1312 01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,519 Speaker 21: in that mid to upper forty range. 1313 01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:39,680 Speaker 6: More sunshine as well. 1314 01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:40,120 Speaker 1: Tomorrow. 1315 01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,559 Speaker 21: Expect an afternoon high around seventy three, with temperatures climbing 1316 01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,720 Speaker 21: ever so slightly into the first parts of the week. 1317 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,520 Speaker 21: From a severe weather station, I'm nine First Warning Meteorologist 1318 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:52,559 Speaker 21: Cameron Harden on news radio seven hundred WLW in Green Bay. 1319 01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,680 Speaker 6: For Bengals versus Packers, You're looking at low sixties and 1320 01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,960 Speaker 6: mostly cloudy at kickoff time at lambeau Field. 1321 01:18:59,280 --> 01:18:59,680 Speaker 1: That's at four. 1322 01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,920 Speaker 6: It'll get down to about fifty five, which won't be 1323 01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,599 Speaker 6: too bad, but it will be windy. Your Game day 1324 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,839 Speaker 6: forecast built by American Home Tech, your roof's best defense 1325 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:13,400 Speaker 6: against any weather American home Tech dot Com right now 1326 01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:17,280 Speaker 6: fifty four degrees in Cincinnati. Authorities in Tennessee say they 1327 01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,280 Speaker 6: have now contacted the families of sixteen people presumed dead 1328 01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:24,799 Speaker 6: in the Accurate Energetic System's plant explosion. Humphreys County Sheriff 1329 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:28,000 Speaker 6: Chris Davis says two others who were unaccounted for have 1330 01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,200 Speaker 6: been located. The scene is still being processed and the 1331 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,400 Speaker 6: cause of the blast is not yet known, but the 1332 01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:37,480 Speaker 6: Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms has now joined the investigation. 1333 01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:41,479 Speaker 6: Tyra Cunningham is Assistant Special Agent in charge. She says 1334 01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,519 Speaker 6: they've launched the National Response Team while. 1335 01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 1: This investigation is still in this early stage. 1336 01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,080 Speaker 2: At this point, the cause of this explosion has not 1337 01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,000 Speaker 2: yet been determined. 1338 01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,679 Speaker 6: And the Bengals will head into Sunday's matchup in Green 1339 01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,439 Speaker 6: Bay trying to halt a three game slide and find 1340 01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,280 Speaker 6: some life without Joe Burrow. His injury has left the 1341 01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,439 Speaker 6: offense reeling just two touchdowns in three weeks, while the 1342 01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:07,720 Speaker 6: defense has been stretched thin and fan patience is wearing out. 1343 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:11,080 Speaker 6: Cincinnati is desperate for stability as they look to avoid 1344 01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,800 Speaker 6: a fourth straight loss and to enter veteran quarterback Joe 1345 01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:18,720 Speaker 6: Flacco signed earlier this week and thrust immediately into the 1346 01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:22,360 Speaker 6: starting role. The former Ravens Super Bowl MVP brings us 1347 01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,400 Speaker 6: steady hand and a reputation for keeping his cool under pressure, 1348 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:29,240 Speaker 6: but he'll face a tough first test against a Packers 1349 01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,040 Speaker 6: team who is undefeated at home and coming off. 1350 01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:32,519 Speaker 1: Of a bye. 1351 01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:36,040 Speaker 6: Flacco says he's ready, calling this another chance to compete, 1352 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:40,040 Speaker 6: and Hollywood is remembering Diane Keaton, the Oscar winning star 1353 01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,880 Speaker 6: of Annie Hall and The Godfather, who has died at 1354 01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:43,679 Speaker 6: seventy nine. 1355 01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:45,880 Speaker 1: I just want to cry, That's all I want to do. 1356 01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,200 Speaker 6: It's just been too much, too great for me. 1357 01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,320 Speaker 22: And then I have a speech, and who cares what 1358 01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:51,960 Speaker 22: I have to say. 1359 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,799 Speaker 10: I mean, it's all been said. 1360 01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,080 Speaker 22: I just feel horrible about the fact that I have 1361 01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:56,600 Speaker 22: to do this. 1362 01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,880 Speaker 1: I have no interest in it whatsoever. 1363 01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:03,439 Speaker 6: People mag reports she passed away in California, surrounded by family. 1364 01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:07,080 Speaker 6: Keaton's career spanned six decades, with roles in Baby Boom, 1365 01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,400 Speaker 6: The First Wives Club, Something's Got to Give, and more. 1366 01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,160 Speaker 6: She won an Academy Award for Annie Hall, and she 1367 01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,439 Speaker 6: was nominated three further times, leaving a lasting mark on 1368 01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:17,360 Speaker 6: American cinema. 1369 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:22,479 Speaker 14: Oh well, Latti da Latti da la la Yea. 1370 01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,479 Speaker 6: Keaton never married, though she adopted two children and built 1371 01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:30,000 Speaker 6: a career defined by originality, depth and heart, leaving behind 1372 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,160 Speaker 6: a legacy as timeless as her films. Diane Keaton was 1373 01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:37,000 Speaker 6: seventy nine years old. Next update is at midnight breaking 1374 01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:42,400 Speaker 6: news anytime. I'm Travis Laird News Radio seven hundred WLW. 1375 01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:44,880 Speaker 1: It's Adie More and more of these days, people in 1376 01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:49,840 Speaker 1: pain are looking beyond traditional. We are back when Mighty 1377 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,800 Speaker 1: John Marshall from monymusic dot com on a Saturday night 1378 01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,439 Speaker 1: doing their top ten list of valuable vinyl. If you're 1379 01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:59,200 Speaker 1: a record collector, if you go to yard sales, flea markets, 1380 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:04,160 Speaker 1: you know you've got somebody who unfortunately passed in your 1381 01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:07,960 Speaker 1: life and they gave you an inheritance of stacks of 1382 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,200 Speaker 1: wax and mound of sound, and you'd like to know 1383 01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,679 Speaker 1: what it's worth. If you think you got some pretty 1384 01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,840 Speaker 1: valuable vinyl there, these are the people that can help you. 1385 01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,479 Speaker 1: And here is October's list. We're down to the top 1386 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:23,680 Speaker 1: five now and we've got another album by someone that 1387 01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:29,080 Speaker 1: I absolutely loved his music and so saddened by his 1388 01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,280 Speaker 1: loss we're right up on the anniversary of the death 1389 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:36,880 Speaker 1: of Tom Petty and Tom Petty is in an album 1390 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,679 Speaker 1: by Tom from nineteen ninety nine is on this list. John, 1391 01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:40,680 Speaker 1: tell me what this is? 1392 01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, not Everything That's worth money is from the sixties, 1393 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,559 Speaker 3: getting up there in nineteen ninety nine Tom Petty. The 1394 01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:52,080 Speaker 3: album is called Echos Current Value up two two hundred dollars. 1395 01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,479 Speaker 1: All right, And if you have Echoes by Tom Petty, 1396 01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:58,080 Speaker 1: I highly recommend this. I found this as one of 1397 01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:28,360 Speaker 1: the tracks on it's called Inger. Oh there's a classic harp. 1398 01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:33,439 Speaker 4: What she was. 1399 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:39,280 Speaker 14: Founding by the highly at Fens and. 1400 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:49,240 Speaker 13: Silver Spirds brought hitch Hock to the Yellow Moon. Well, 1401 01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:56,560 Speaker 13: kind of that chop for her, and I said, everybody feature. 1402 01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:01,200 Speaker 4: Gone Away. 1403 01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:38,160 Speaker 1: Not to be confused, of course, with John Anderson Justice Swinging. 1404 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,559 Speaker 1: Tom is not. Tom is not describing Charlotte Johnson here. 1405 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:47,000 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that watching the video, it's pretty cool, 1406 01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:50,759 Speaker 1: all right, Tom and a Diner from the album Echoes 1407 01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,439 Speaker 1: on the money music dot Com Top ten lists for 1408 01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:58,160 Speaker 1: October of records that are worth up to one or more. 1409 01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:03,400 Speaker 1: People always think John mistakenly, unless, of course, they've heard 1410 01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:07,720 Speaker 1: our many conversations in they're edumacated now about this that 1411 01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:15,320 Speaker 1: if someone has passed the the vinyl is worth more automatically. 1412 01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,120 Speaker 1: Not the case, right, not the case. 1413 01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,799 Speaker 3: Generally, the death of any recording artist does not increase value. 1414 01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:25,559 Speaker 3: Then maybe speculation for thirties to sixty days, people thinking, boy, 1415 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,360 Speaker 3: I'm going to put this up on eBay. You know, 1416 01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,920 Speaker 3: he just passed away. But generally that doesn't doesn't happen, 1417 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 3: So doesn't does It may be true for other forms 1418 01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,559 Speaker 3: of collectibles, but not with records. 1419 01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:40,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, and just because it's old, it doesn't. People call 1420 01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,120 Speaker 1: us all the time about you know, when they'll hear 1421 01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,040 Speaker 1: you on the air with me and they said, I 1422 01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:48,880 Speaker 1: got all these seventy eight's, Well are they? Are they 1423 01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:53,080 Speaker 1: pre World War two blues? Because because that that's a 1424 01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:57,920 Speaker 1: big that's a big seller, that's a big vinyl value, right. 1425 01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Delta Blues roberts On. Some people like that Furry 1426 01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:07,320 Speaker 3: Lewis from pre war World War two can be extremely collectible. 1427 01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,600 Speaker 3: But just because a record is old doesn't mean it 1428 01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:11,360 Speaker 3: is collectible. 1429 01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:16,720 Speaker 1: Have another one of the giants all time on this 1430 01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:22,280 Speaker 1: moneymusic dot Com list that we're going to get to next. 1431 01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:28,920 Speaker 1: But it's a special thing. Because this next album that 1432 01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,280 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people may have this album, 1433 01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,200 Speaker 1: but they don't have this particular copy of this album. 1434 01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:37,240 Speaker 1: And I'm talking about a promo copy. And before we 1435 01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:41,640 Speaker 1: get to what that is, John explain the value of 1436 01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:47,320 Speaker 1: DJ copies or promo copies as as opposed to those 1437 01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:49,759 Speaker 1: released to the general buying public. 1438 01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,080 Speaker 3: Well, many times the promotional copies that say not for 1439 01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:57,160 Speaker 3: sale promotional only can be worth a heck of a 1440 01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:00,439 Speaker 3: lot more because there are far fewer of them that 1441 01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:03,760 Speaker 3: are listed that show not every promo copy is going 1442 01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,600 Speaker 3: to be worth more than the commercial copy. But in 1443 01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:10,479 Speaker 3: many cases, the real stars like Eric Clapton, they're gonna 1444 01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:13,920 Speaker 3: be worth more. And we find promo copies amazingly at 1445 01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,800 Speaker 3: so many yard sales, so many radio stations gave them 1446 01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:20,360 Speaker 3: away or threw them away, that they're quite common actually, 1447 01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:24,559 Speaker 3: So find this one Eric Clapton nineteen seventy self titled 1448 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:28,200 Speaker 3: album promo up to five hundred dollars as we copy 1449 01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:29,519 Speaker 3: up to about fifty dollars. 1450 01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,120 Speaker 1: So promotional copy how much again, I think. 1451 01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,599 Speaker 3: I stepped on up to five hundred dollars. 1452 01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:38,719 Speaker 1: Oh wow wow. So the difference is ten tenfold over 1453 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:45,920 Speaker 1: a retail copy in good condition. Yeah, the eponymous Eric Clapton. 1454 01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:09,920 Speaker 13: The braines any do this stuff song that surrounded me, the. 1455 01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:11,520 Speaker 23: Sun and the. 1456 01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:16,360 Speaker 24: Away, this that pace surround me. 1457 01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,519 Speaker 14: Let it bay, had. 1458 01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:21,800 Speaker 23: It Bay that you love? 1459 01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:27,679 Speaker 14: Ray down on me? Let it bad? That it by 1460 01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:32,520 Speaker 14: that Bay raymade. 1461 01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:41,320 Speaker 24: The life was like godds a bow bathing in the sun. 1462 01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:47,240 Speaker 24: July found the way to love this hard set bad done. 1463 01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:49,200 Speaker 4: Let it bad. 1464 01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:54,880 Speaker 14: Let it bay that your love may don on me. 1465 01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:21,200 Speaker 4: Let it bad, Let it by. 1466 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:25,960 Speaker 1: You know John, I don't know if he's the best 1467 01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:27,800 Speaker 1: rock guitarist of all time, but. 1468 01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:29,599 Speaker 3: I could. 1469 01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:32,040 Speaker 1: I could listen to him play anytime, That's for sure. 1470 01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,000 Speaker 1: Eric Clapton on the money music dot Com October list 1471 01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,200 Speaker 1: of Valuable final worth one hundred up to one or 1472 01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:45,720 Speaker 1: more and up next on the list again very very famous. 1473 01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:50,960 Speaker 1: A song that everybody who who loves the Beatles or 1474 01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,439 Speaker 1: loves rock and roll knows very very well. And yet 1475 01:29:55,080 --> 01:30:00,439 Speaker 1: this particular copy of this Beatles single can be worth 1476 01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,599 Speaker 1: a whole lot if you've got the picture sleeve. 1477 01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:08,360 Speaker 3: Those pictures leave so very important, always worth more than 1478 01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,160 Speaker 3: the actual forty five itself in this case, Can't buy 1479 01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:15,000 Speaker 3: me Love Buy the Beatles on Capitol record worth up 1480 01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:18,000 Speaker 3: to about forty to fifty dollars. The picture sleeve by 1481 01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:25,400 Speaker 3: itself up to eight hundred dollars. 1482 01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:37,040 Speaker 14: Love Love that old down, Listen to My Steel, whe 1483 01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:43,640 Speaker 14: want goodbye to and why Sig if. 1484 01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:52,559 Speaker 25: I leave you be, I've be a good all my life, 1485 01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:55,479 Speaker 25: Land Tax in the. 1486 01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:01,360 Speaker 14: Lot of that Night and Iron Mood by the week. 1487 01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,880 Speaker 1: So that's a cold tattoo from Jim Croche. You certainly 1488 01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:19,920 Speaker 1: know bad bad Leroy Brown. It sounds like he produced 1489 01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:25,280 Speaker 1: bad bad one tattoo, bad bad bad cold tattoo. That's right. 1490 01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:29,080 Speaker 1: It sounds like he produced it himself, because well he did. 1491 01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:31,880 Speaker 1: But if you got the album, it's worth up to 1492 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:35,840 Speaker 1: nine hundred dollars. Up next down your list, Johnny. 1493 01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:38,479 Speaker 3: The Stones, I was worth money. Looked for the big 1494 01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:41,960 Speaker 3: album for them Sticky Fingers again. You want to hope 1495 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,439 Speaker 3: and pray to find a promotional copy of store bought 1496 01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:47,759 Speaker 3: copy maybe up to about twenty dollars. Promo for Sticky 1497 01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:50,479 Speaker 3: Fingers up to one thousand dollars. 1498 01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:52,559 Speaker 1: This is this is the Stones, and I can't believe 1499 01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,880 Speaker 1: that it took to nineteen seventy one as the Stones 1500 01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:58,200 Speaker 1: first album to reach number one on both the UK 1501 01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:03,280 Speaker 1: and the US Albums charts, and it's triple platinum. Look 1502 01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:07,559 Speaker 1: for that promo copy of Sticky Fingers. Folks, can't Bobby 1503 01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:18,080 Speaker 1: mine you do ring my friend? 1504 01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:23,559 Speaker 10: He's all right, get you anything, my friend? 1505 01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:25,280 Speaker 4: Itmate you He's. 1506 01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:27,960 Speaker 14: All right cause I don't get you. 1507 01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:33,280 Speaker 10: Watch my money money, and Bobby, I'll give you all 1508 01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:35,680 Speaker 10: I've got to baby, say you. 1509 01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:36,559 Speaker 22: Love me too. 1510 01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:40,840 Speaker 23: I mean I want not to you what I got? 1511 01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:42,000 Speaker 4: Buck you to you. 1512 01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:46,679 Speaker 14: I don't get you what my money money? 1513 01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:53,080 Speaker 13: And bybody, everybody. 1514 01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:53,880 Speaker 18: Help me so good? 1515 01:32:54,040 --> 01:33:07,599 Speaker 23: Bobby, No, no, no, I'm satisfied. Tell me the kind 1516 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,680 Speaker 23: of thing the money is just come fine. 1517 01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:13,559 Speaker 14: Mons. 1518 01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:15,760 Speaker 10: The money, money Money. 1519 01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:24,840 Speaker 1: One of a string of number one monster hits by 1520 01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:27,439 Speaker 1: the Beatles. If you've got that forty five with the 1521 01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:31,960 Speaker 1: picture sleeve important worth up to eight hundred dollars according 1522 01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:36,439 Speaker 1: to moneymusic dot com. Mighty John, We've got an album 1523 01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:39,519 Speaker 1: from nineteen sixty six that made the list this month, 1524 01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:44,919 Speaker 1: and another performer we lost way too early, Jim Crochey 1525 01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:46,680 Speaker 1: tell me what we got here? 1526 01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:50,200 Speaker 3: Well. This is actually produced by Crochy himself on his 1527 01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:54,560 Speaker 3: own record label. His first album it's called Facets and 1528 01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:58,360 Speaker 3: current value up to nine dollars should come across a copy. 1529 01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, most people weren't aware of what Jim Croachey was 1530 01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:06,479 Speaker 1: like up until nineteen seventy or nineteen seventy one. But 1531 01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:08,840 Speaker 1: here's some early stuff if we can find it. 1532 01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:45,120 Speaker 26: Says you have a cut off field in the modern 1533 01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:50,360 Speaker 26: New Holidays, God don't say No, what's doing all right? 1534 01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,360 Speaker 14: And went away and just around. 1535 01:34:54,200 --> 01:35:27,040 Speaker 26: Madnight, Funny Last Stop nos. 1536 01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:27,880 Speaker 14: Is doing all right. 1537 01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:33,639 Speaker 3: We're almost there. 1538 01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,840 Speaker 1: And the album cover leaves no doubt as to why 1539 01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:51,120 Speaker 1: the fingers are sticky as we get to number one 1540 01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:54,360 Speaker 1: on this Saturday night, John Marshall, let's bring it home 1541 01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:58,200 Speaker 1: the most valuable piece of vinyl money music dot com 1542 01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,760 Speaker 1: has listed for ourber. Now there is a Halloween list. 1543 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:05,760 Speaker 1: We may have you back before Halloween to count those 1544 01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:10,960 Speaker 1: down the scary and valuable vinyl. But what's what's number 1545 01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:11,599 Speaker 1: one on the list. 1546 01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:15,040 Speaker 3: Well, this is a big hit from madford Man, but 1547 01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:17,599 Speaker 3: that version is not worth much more than ten dollars. 1548 01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:19,360 Speaker 3: For the big money, you got to give it to 1549 01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:23,200 Speaker 3: the boss, Bruce Springsteen blinded by the Lights with its 1550 01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:26,120 Speaker 3: pictures leave up to fifteen dollars. 1551 01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, madford Man, famous for recording Springsteen songs that actually 1552 01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:33,880 Speaker 1: got them attention because other than do Wah Diddy, nothing 1553 01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:37,120 Speaker 1: else was shaken. Here it is and a mighty John, 1554 01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:38,880 Speaker 1: thank you so much. If people want to know more, 1555 01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:43,080 Speaker 1: just simply go to moneymusic dot com. Here's Bruce Springsteen 1556 01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,240 Speaker 1: blinded by the light. 1557 01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:10,800 Speaker 27: Madman Drummers, Bummers and Indians in the summer. 1558 01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:13,160 Speaker 10: With a teenage diplomat. 1559 01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:18,200 Speaker 28: In the dumps with the mumpsters the otill and thumps 1560 01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:21,040 Speaker 28: his way into his hat. 1561 01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,240 Speaker 14: With a bowler on my shoulders. 1562 01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:25,439 Speaker 3: I feel can. 1563 01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:30,919 Speaker 22: Older I shrip the many go around with this story 1564 01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:36,360 Speaker 22: unpleasing sneezing out, wheezing, the coliabe crashed to the ground, 1565 01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:38,160 Speaker 22: some of. 1566 01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:42,960 Speaker 13: Hat shopper very far spots notapping his fingers. 1567 01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:45,840 Speaker 23: I have, there's some flex. 1568 01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:49,240 Speaker 10: My mascots tied those rubbers. 1569 01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:51,280 Speaker 14: Not with a one good in her hands. 1570 01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:56,320 Speaker 13: And young Scotch the slitch got pilot by the tennis 1571 01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:57,400 Speaker 13: box fool. 1572 01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,040 Speaker 9: His lover and the sands. 1573 01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:01,720 Speaker 14: So blood shots. 1574 01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,800 Speaker 28: Get me not whis Worth daddies within earshot seve the 1575 01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:06,679 Speaker 28: bof shots heard of the vands. 1576 01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:09,479 Speaker 1: Well now you know why the Manford Man version was 1577 01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:13,840 Speaker 1: a hitch and this was not. It's the nightcap on 1578 01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:16,080 Speaker 1: a Saturday night on seven hundred WL. 1579 01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:23,280 Speaker 27: She got nol, but you never got tack for still 1580 01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,720 Speaker 27: pacts already. 1581 01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:34,759 Speaker 28: Sunburn Stone by joh Man I say Slong rolland Stall 1582 01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:40,720 Speaker 28: Preacher Properties These seventy Rolling Dick The Ballad of Him 1583 01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:45,160 Speaker 19: Or twenty twenty five iHeartRadio Music Festival presented by Capital 1584 01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:45,479 Speaker 19: Lunch