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Speaker 1: This fine three hours and fifteen minutes. Kevin here holding

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, really fun show, jam packed with guests.

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Speaker 1: Dave Jackson, one of my favorite referees ever that worked

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Speaker 1: John Van Bisbrook, who I covered him. You discovered him.

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Speaker 1: I think he played for the Rangers before that. Ninety

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Speaker 1: thirty years ago. Kevin, I'm sure you're going to join that.

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Speaker 1: our Vancouver Canucks writer. We're going to talk a lot

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Speaker 1: of Quinn Hughes, Marco Rossi, Liam Ogrin, and Zee Boyam

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Speaker 1: all came about and man, what a turnaround since October

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Speaker 1: thirty one, Kevin. This team nineteen four and two in

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Speaker 2: The schedule has been unbelievable and it's not an excuse.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Colorado was the better team that night. It

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Speaker 3: Don't feel like that game was.

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Speaker 2: There was such an emotional game against Edmonton, and everyone

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Speaker 3: First. Yeah, they've been playing a ton of hockey.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I said this on X to a

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Speaker 1: You just don't throw lineups into a computer and spit

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Speaker 1: just fatigued. And this I mean, I said this on

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Speaker 2: It's not a small like over a weekend or a

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Speaker 2: why it's so incredible, the complete one eighty that they've

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Speaker 2: All of it is culminated into just a wonderful twenty

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Speaker 1: And we'll talk to Matt Sells about this, the Wilds

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Speaker 2: And that's the other thing that's so weird about this

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Speaker 3: In those twenty five games.

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Speaker 2: They've pulled in forty out of a possible fifty points

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Speaker 3: But you at one point last week, I think the

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Speaker 2: Columbus, you're missing half of your defensive course crazy, You're

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Speaker 2: I mean, and yet here they are. They're still pulling

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Speaker 1: Let's see where it goes. Yeah, in that game in Columbus,

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Speaker 2: So I know you've documented it quite a bit in

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Speaker 2: He says, no, the Wild got Queen Hughes. I said,

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Speaker 2: that absolutely did not happen. And as I'm talking to him,

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Speaker 2: and right. The buzz inside the snake pit in Coleraine,

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Speaker 3: It's incredible, the buzz.

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Speaker 2: As that news started to filter out, I still didn't

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Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, I was more Narth than Coleraine.

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Speaker 2: So that morning, besides the fact that I talked to

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Speaker 1: And then I said to him after the trade, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm working on a feature on Ellen Hughes. Ellen Hughes

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Speaker 1: here on the fan. This is Michael Russo Park, Michael

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Speaker 4: How are you, Michael?

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Speaker 5: Good to be with you, How are you?

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Speaker 3: Isn't it crazy? I'm doing great? Isn't it crazy? Actually?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's awesome. You know Tommy Fitz general manager in

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Speaker 1: after Christmas. John uh and and Wild fans by the way,

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00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 1: a couple of really good players that the Wild. Uh

436
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 1: that if you're a fan of Finland Keevy Rard you

437
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 1: and also Adam Bennick for Team Checchia.

438
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Speaker 3: What what do you think?

439
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 6: You know?

440
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,880
Speaker 1: I got to go to some of the games over

441
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 1: at at Ritter Arena this summer to watch some of

442
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,880
Speaker 1: the teams. Obviously Bob Motsko is coaching the team. How

443
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 1: have you guys looked so far? And who are some

444
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 1: of the players that uh that, uh, hockey fans here

445
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,879
Speaker 1: in the Twin Cities will get to really appreciate in

446
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 1: the in the coming weeks.

447
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

448
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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, from the summer forward, we didn't

449
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 5: have a great summer and so we were a little

450
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 5: concerned coming out of this summer. But I think we're Unfortunately,

451
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 5: I was going to mention the name Trevor Connelly, but

452
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 5: he got hurt recently and is not going to play

453
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 5: in the tournament. So that's a big loss for us,

454
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 5: as he was playing for the Vegas Golden Knights, a

455
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,479
Speaker 5: minor league team in Henderson, So that's a loss and

456
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 5: so we but we have depth and other guys to

457
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 5: fill the roles there, and I think that our returners.

458
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 5: You know, Cole Hudson is one name that everybody knows.

459
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 5: His brother Lane, but Cole led the tournament scoring last year.

460
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 5: Returning to US a left shot, very dynamic point guy.

461
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 5: You know, he and Ze Boom have led the way

462
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 5: for us last year on the D side. But we

463
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 5: have some really good young right shot defenseman. One of

464
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 5: the guys to watch out for is a draft eligible

465
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Speaker 5: and Chase Reid, who I think is going to turn

466
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 5: a lot of heads in this tournament. So you know,

467
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 5: as a draft eligible and a young guy, it's it's

468
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 5: hard to do in the tournament, but he is really

469
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,199
Speaker 5: playing well. And so as we moved to the forwards,

470
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Speaker 5: I think everybody knows Brody Zemer from the U real

471
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 5: captain type player. He's gonna be on line with James

472
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Speaker 5: Hagen's first round pick, the Boss and who's really fun

473
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 5: to watch, great edges, great playmaking ability. But the guy

474
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 5: that has really stepped up in college hockey this year

475
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 5: is a former players son as we were talking about

476
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 5: is Will Horcoff. And Will playing at the University of

477
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 5: Michigan eighteen goals coming into the season, has just looked

478
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 5: great and six' five left shot plays the left, side

479
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 5: great power play. Guy his season has just been. Fantastic

480
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 5: but we do want to get a shout out to

481
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 5: to our another former players son In Max. Plant max

482
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 5: is probably the leading candidate this year for The Hobe

483
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 5: baker playing at The. Louth you, know his emergence this

484
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 5: year is probably not a surprise, everybody but a great,

485
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 5: playmaking great head for the. Party he's just an overall hockey.

486
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 5: Player so those are some of the.

487
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Speaker 1: Names and Obviously Bob motsko at The helm led The

488
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Speaker 1: United states to coach to get The United states To

489
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: Old medal in twenty, seventeen and it just made the

490
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: perfect Sense john to tab him as the coach in

491
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: his right in the shadows Of.

492
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Speaker 5: Mariucci, yeah it was just a great, fit you, Know

493
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 5: bob's a. Winner he's a proven winner at every level

494
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 5: he's coached. At but you, know the fit for us

495
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 5: going To minnesota and Having bob at the helm and you,

496
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 5: know hopefully having everybody behind, us not only from The

497
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 5: university Of, minnesota but from the state Of minnesota and.

498
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Speaker 5: BEYOND i know that for the first time Since i've

499
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 5: been doing, this my family's gonna come and they're all

500
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 5: talking about. IT i, mean the vibe of what's happening

501
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 5: from The Minnesota wild and obviously Obtaining Quinn hughes has

502
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 5: created a huge. Impact and you, know someone we know really,

503
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 5: well And Bill, garren who you, know we all Alloted

504
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 5: debt a gratitude for not only for at the facility

505
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 5: and the room and allowing us to do, things but

506
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 5: just being A Usa hockey guy first and leading Our

507
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 5: olympic movement too with being THE gm of that. Team

508
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 5: so we have some really good tides going on and

509
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 5: that helps. Us it helps us with everything that we

510
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 5: have to, do and it makes our flow of work really.

511
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 1: Professional And, billy your former teammate at the ninety Eight,

512
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: olympics by the, way does he does your Son ian

513
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 1: still live?

514
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 5: HERE i lives down with his, family his Wife kristen

515
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 5: and two, Kids elliott And. Hannah they live In, Rochester.

516
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: MINNESOTA i don't know if you, remember many many years,

517
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: AGO i actually was helping a buddy of mine move

518
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Speaker 1: into an apartment and like it In, roseville AND i

519
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Speaker 1: all of a, Sudden i'm looking at the, list the

520
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Speaker 1: directory of people that lived, there and it SAID I

521
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Speaker 1: Van beswork AND i took a. Picture i'm, like this

522
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Speaker 1: has got to be your. Son so many he.

523
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Speaker 3: Was going To.

524
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Speaker 5: Bethel he was going To bethel at the, time AND

525
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 5: i remember. That, yeah that's pretty.

526
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: Cool last, Question, john you KNOW i mentioned at the

527
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: top of the show before you were on that That

528
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 1: december twenty, Eight Stan, Bowman Tom, Fitzgerald Chris, drury Bil

529
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Speaker 1: zito will be coming to.

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00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 3: Town you'll be, Here Pat. Kellerher i'm Sure Chris kellerher.

531
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: To meet With Bill garon and have a zoom probably

532
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: with the coaches to maybe make the final selection before

533
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: The olympic team is. Named On january tewod on The Today.

534
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: SHOW i might, add these are really tough, Decisions. JOHN

535
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 1: i can't even imagine what you guys are going to

536
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: and when you have such a huge crop of players

537
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: that you all. Have obviously they're gonna be some good

538
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: names left. Off but how excited are you about putting

539
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: this team together that can maybe bring a second gold

540
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: medal in the last forty five years To.

541
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 5: Milan, yeah we're super excited about the. TEAM i think

542
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 5: those that watch The Four nations got a glimpse at

543
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 5: our group and probably going to be very similar to that.

544
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 5: Group but it is it's hard decisions and the other

545
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 5: factor in this, mic and for everybody, listen the injury.

546
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 5: Factor right. Now there's just so many things going on

547
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 5: right now and as we get to you, know naming

548
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 5: our team and then managing our team in is really

549
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 5: going to be a hard piece because everybody's nicked up an.

550
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 5: Injury it's it's some of the long, term fluky things

551
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 5: that have been. Happening you, know we just have to

552
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 5: stay on top of. It but our, staff you, know

553
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 5: led By billy and the other gms you've, mentioned are

554
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 5: doing a great. Job they communicate a, lot they're all,

555
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 5: winners and we have total trust in them to you,

556
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 5: know make the right decisions for the right.

557
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: Reasons, well and great goaltending is you, Know john potential

558
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: on this team With hellabuck And swamen And, otinger and

559
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: you have other couple of nominees as, Well SO i,

560
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: Mean i'm sure you're can have backup plans for all

561
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: the potential. Injuries BUT i can't wait to see who

562
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: is named to that team On january two at eight a.

563
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: M eastern that that time slot on The Today.

564
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 5: Show, yeah tune into The Today show to get that.

565
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 5: Information hopefully it doesn't come out sooner than, that but

566
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 5: seems like the team's been picked every week for the

567
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 5: LAST us. Anyway so, yeah, actually, see it's fun actually

568
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 5: seeing people name our team and then actually sitting back

569
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 5: and saying you're wrong about, that and you're wrong about.

570
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: That but, yeah even the other NIGHT i was watching,

571
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: him like like Brock, nelson you could see why you

572
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: guys love him and and but even, TODAY, i like you,

573
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: SAID i picked my team, today AND i apparently ticked

574
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: off the entire state Of texas BECAUSE i didn't Have

575
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: jason ROBERTSON i know on, There SO i know that

576
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: it's these are hard, decisions but these are really appreciated

577
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: AND i have a great time during The World juniors

578
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: and good luck to The United.

579
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 5: States, yeah thanks for having me on and let's GO

580
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 5: usa yeap.

581
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: That is A Usa Hockey hall Of famer and one

582
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 1: of the Great american goalies of our. Time john Van.

583
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Speaker 1: Biesbrooke This Mike russo from The athletic filling in For Dan.

584
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: Burrero when we come, Back we're going to turn our

585
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: attention To Quinn hughes in the big trade that happened

586
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: To Vancouver canucks On december, Twelfth harmondle Whenever canucks writers

587
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: at The.

588
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: Athletic he'll be joining me next on the. Fan thanks.

589
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 7: Memories this winner the twenty twenty six I Jef World

590
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 7: juniors In. Minnesota see the bright young hockey, players the

591
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 7: best in the, world compete for. Gold bring your family

592
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 7: and experience the. Excited make at your tickets Today mnsports

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Speaker 7: And events dot, ORG Mn sports at events dot.

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Speaker 6: Org hockey Quit News.

595
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: Minnesota Michael ruser from The athletic back here on the.

596
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: Fan lots of shows still to.

597
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: Come thanks To John Van, biesbrook we Got Matt sells

598
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: The wild assistant general, Manager Alex lewis from The athletic

599
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: Or vikings beat, Writer Nico sturm from The Minnesota, wild

600
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: and Then Dave jackson FROM espn The Rules analyst will

601
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: be coming into. Studio he's in town for THE Espn plus.

602
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: Game while In nashville tonight we Got Joe, Smith joe

603
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: o'donald coming on as, well and my next. Guest there

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00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: are diner serves like Me Michael, russo by the, way

605
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: that have been doing this for a long long. Time

606
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: we're in the twilight of our. Careers we don't know

607
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: anything about analytics all that. Stuff and then we got

608
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: young up and coming writers that are just the smart

609
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: people at The athletic and this is one of, them

610
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: one of Our canucks. Writers but you see him do

611
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: so many great national stories for us that combine video

612
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: and analytics and all that. Stuff Harmon, dyle how are?

613
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 4: You i'm doing, great Russ, So you're seriously underselling yourself

614
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 4: though you're an absolute legend AND i look up to

615
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 4: you as one of the best writers in our. Industry

616
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 4: so don't tell yourself showed. IT i feel a little

617
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 4: bit embarrassed with an introl like.

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Speaker 1: That, WELL i appreciate, it and you could definitely Follow

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Speaker 1: harmon as well ON x and read his fine work

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00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: at The. ATHLETIC i, mean there are just so many

621
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: great stories that you have every, day and we're a

622
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: huge part of so many of our great. Stuff the

623
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks here on this Unbelievable Quinn hughes

624
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: trade that SHOCKED i think a lot of. Us you,

625
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: know you have been you And Thomas, rants who are

626
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: both In, vancouver and you do a lot of radio

627
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: and podcasts In vancouver as. Well we've all been talking

628
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: About Quinn hughes potentially being on the. Move at some

629
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: point in the last three four, weeks it really became

630
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: looking at him on the ice apparent that he was

631
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: no longer happy, there and so it started to come

632
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: out that they were already starting to talk. Trades but

633
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: did you have any idea that this would come as

634
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: quick as it did with a trade On december, twelfth

635
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: and To, minnesota of all.

636
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 4: Teams, YEAH i certainly didn't Imagine minnesota being in the.

637
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 4: Picture they didn't stand out to me as one of

638
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 4: the obvious. CANDIDATES i was looking out east to teams Like,

639
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 4: carolina To New, jersey To, detroit totet with. DESTINATIONS i

640
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 4: THINK i had a feeling just looking At quinn's body

641
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 4: language and even just going back to the way last

642
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 4: season ended disappointment of missing the playoffs and how much

643
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 4: of a weight it was just The Peterson miller, feud

644
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 4: and how much that would have waited Up quinn as

645
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 4: a captain trying to play peacemaker in that WHERE i

646
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 4: wasn't confident That quinn was going to stay long. Term

647
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 4: AND i think the turning point was When elliott came

648
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: out with that report that The devils had, called BECAUSE

649
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 4: i immediately, got you, know texts from managers from different

650
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 4: teams sort of taking that as a sign, That, okay

651
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: the auction has. Started AND i think the moment that

652
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 4: that report came out and became so public and the

653
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 4: rumor mill started, ACCELERATING i of course didn't know when

654
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 4: exactly it was going to get, done but it didn't

655
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: come as a shocker that he was. Traded the surprise

656
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 4: really was that it Was minnesota at the end of

657
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: the day that ended up winning.

658
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: The auction, Absolutely AND i remember about fifteen minutes before

659
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: or twenty minutes BEFORE i tweeted it. Out first of,

660
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: ALL i got this call that the while they traded

661
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: Zev liam And Rob see To, vancouver AND i immediately

662
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: Alerted Joe smith and my. Editor but then you just

663
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: know that It's elias Or, quinn, right it's got to

664
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: be one of the. TWO i remember writing the tweet

665
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: and having it sitting there and my hands were like

666
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 1: shaking because it's LIKE i wanted to just tweet. It

667
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: but and even THOUGH i was convinced THAT i was,

668
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: right if you're, wrong even about one of the, names,

669
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: man do you look? Stupid like what if you tweet

670
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: out that Ze boyam's been in this deal and then

671
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: it turns out that he's. Not you're just never going

672
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: to live that down as long as your. Career but

673
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: then when it became apparent That vancouver did so well

674
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: before we get talking About, quinn were you surprised that

675
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: they were able to get such a really quality price

676
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: back and three really good players and another first round

677
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: pick that makes it the equivalent of.

678
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 8: Four i'm not entirely surprised that they were able to

679
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 8: get a lucrative, hall because in the aftermath of some

680
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 8: of the rumors, STARTING i actually wrote a piece where

681
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 8: a lot of the buzz was Around hughes and The,

682
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 8: devils with the obvious connection that he has with his.

683
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 4: Brothers but the point THAT I i made was is

684
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 4: that The canucks are more power and leverage than people

685
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 4: realize and more options Because quinn didn't have trade production

686
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: and while he at the end of the day was

687
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 4: really involved in the process of the trade getting done

688
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 4: and The conchs wanted to do right by him and

689
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 4: send it to destination that he was actually excited to go,

690
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 4: to the fact of the matter is that The canuck

691
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 4: didn't owe it To quinn to send him To New jersey,

692
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 4: specifically and also just some of the other dynamics at,

693
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 4: play where the point that other execs made to me

694
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 4: was if any team Acquires quinn, now they'll have a

695
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 4: unique opportunity to extend him in the summer where they'll

696
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: be able to offer him the at under the, term

697
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 4: under the terms of the CURRENT cba and all the

698
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: front loaded, structure the the signing, bonuses and the kicker

699
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 4: is that even if worst case you aren't able to

700
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 4: Get quinn, extended you can still flip him to another

701
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,239
Speaker 4: team for an absolute. Haul and the point there was

702
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 4: as as a buying, team even if you don't one

703
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 4: hundred percent know That quinn is going to, extend you're

704
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 4: going to feel pretty confident about a being able to

705
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 4: financially offer him more than any team can this, summer

706
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: and then be course case you still have an insurance

707
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 4: in terms of being able to let him to another

708
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: team and recoup a ton of. Assets So i'm not

709
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 4: entirely surprised that The canucks were able to get a significant.

710
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 5: Halt but the.

711
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 4: Package, SPECIFICALLY i Mean cannocks fans have rightfully been excited about.

712
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 4: IT i Mean Zeeve wulliam specifically the potential that he

713
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 4: has to be a star defenseman one. DAY i don't

714
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 4: think any team could have realistically topped that, package and

715
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 4: just around the league canvassing people's, opinions they all thought

716
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 4: that that while it's a home run For minnesota to

717
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 4: land of superstar used as, caliber how The canucks made

718
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 4: out very well at the end of.

719
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 7: The day as.

720
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: Well, Absolutely Marco rossie is going to BE i think

721
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: a top two center in this. League, obviously we've Seen

722
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: Liam ogeren play great so far for The, canucks and

723
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: then they get the first rounder as. Well everything you said,

724
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: There harmon made absolute, sense especially on the fact that

725
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: The wild could maybe recruit some of those assets If

726
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: quinn doesn't want to sign. Here and WHAT i loved

727
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: About quinn is that he Gave vancouver much notice that

728
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: he was essentially not resigning. There so you know that

729
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: if it ever came to the point that he just,

730
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: decided you know, WHAT i want to test free, agency

731
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: that he's going to give the wild plenty of notice

732
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: as well where they're going to be able to be

733
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: able to.

734
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 3: React and SO i think that is a huge.

735
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: Thing we're talking With Harmon dyle from The athletic covers

736
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: The canucks and a bunch of national stories for us as.

737
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: Well what happened With quinn?

738
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: There why did it not work out where he just

739
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: couldn't take the losses? Anymore obviously we heard all the

740
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 1: noise behind the scenes of just you, know controversies there

741
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: with you, Know elias AND. Jt miller and now stories

742
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: out that Maybe elias And quinn grew, apart you know what.

743
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 4: Happened, Yeah, Ultimately quinn is as competitive as of a

744
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 4: player As i've seen and at the privilege of, covering

745
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 4: and to, me it's really about lack of faith he

746
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 4: had in the team's not not just where they were

747
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 4: today where they started the season and were thirty second

748
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 4: place in THE nhl by the time they pulled the

749
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 4: tror on that, deal but also just having a lack

750
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 4: of confidence that it was going to change anytime, soon

751
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 4: where The canucks had some up and coming young, talent

752
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 4: but they didn't have any franchise changing. Pieces and, ultimately

753
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 4: the way you have to think about is this two

754
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,959
Speaker 4: years ago when The canucks won The Pacific, division made

755
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 4: that run to the second round of the, Playoffs game

756
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 4: seven Against, edmonton that team had six players that made

757
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 4: The All Star. Team so it wasn't Just, quinn it WAS.

758
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 4: Jt miller And Brock besser was a forty goal, Scorers

759
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 4: peterson was it was still at that point producing at

760
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 4: a legit elite Level Thatcher demko was the runner up

761
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 4: for The Vesno conversation that. Season and then you look

762
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 4: at what's transpired since WHERE. Jt, miller because of the

763
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 4: few he had between him And, peterson he's. Gone Elias

764
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 4: patterson mysteriously from the twenty twenty Four All star break

765
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 4: onward has been unable to be like he's mysteriously fallen

766
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 4: off a cliff where even though he's modestly bounced back this,

767
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 4: season we're not talking about the one hundred point two

768
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 4: way stud that we were three years, ago for, Example

769
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: so you've lost a legit co star, there and then

770
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 4: Thatcher demko as brilliant and sensational as he can play

771
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 4: when he's, healthy the fact of the matter is he's

772
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 4: become an injury prone player where there's no guarantee that

773
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 4: he is going to be able to play a consistent

774
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 4: starting goaltenders workoude over a course of the. Season so

775
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 4: you just look at the nucleus Round quinn and he

776
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 4: was essentially left on an island where not just this,

777
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 4: season but the year before or it was If quinn

778
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 4: isn't able to carry the carry the team all by

779
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 4: himself on the, back no one else is going to

780
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 4: be able to realistically step. Off and it just got

781
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: to a point WHERE i don't think he saw the

782
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 4: vision for how the organization was going to be able

783
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 4: to contend for A Stanley cup in the.

784
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: Future, yeah it makes, sense AND i know this was

785
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: a tough decision for, him LIKE I. I, COINCIDENTALLY i

786
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: was taught telling earlier in the Show harmon THAT i

787
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: was In edmonton WITH Usa Women's hockey a couple of

788
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: weeks ago during the rivalry, series and SO i got

789
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: to spend a lot of time With quinn's, Mom, ellen

790
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: and after the, trade she told me it was bittersweet

791
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: that she that it was unbelievable the way The canucks

792
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: treated her, son especially the, owner WHO i know he

793
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: gets a lot of flat there as. Well and, this,

794
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: this this had to be. TOUGH i talked To Brock

795
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: besser for a story THAT i wrote last, week and

796
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: he kind of painted the picture of what it was

797
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: like on that bus when All quinn's teammates found out

798
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: that he was, traded and how angry and sad he

799
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: was even and he and the final meal that they,

800
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: Had SO i, Mean quinn was absolutely love. There turning

801
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: your attention to The Wild, harmon you have your fear

802
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: of the pulse of all. Teams how do you think

803
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: when you look at The wild's lineup That quinn fits

804
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: in and how much better does he make?

805
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 4: Them? Oh he. Is he's a game, changer especially from

806
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 4: the back. END i think The wild. NEEDED i Love Rock,

807
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 4: FABER i Love Spurgeon, brodein BUT i think what could

808
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 4: have really and and is really going to take This

809
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 4: Wild blue into the next level is somebody that is

810
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 4: just a natural powerplay quarterback somebody that can create offense

811
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 4: in their, sleep but just another elite play driver to

812
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 4: have on the on the. Ice and For, Quinn i'm

813
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 4: really excited to see what this also looks like when

814
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 4: the while they're, healthier right when they get fully healthy

815
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 4: on the back, end because right now you're having to

816
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 4: Use quinn in A quinn in favor together in a

817
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 4: tough matchups roll where But quinn defends well enough THAT

818
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 4: i have full confidence that he can absolutely crush those

819
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: minute as. Well and we saw just how dynamite he

820
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 4: was against The Big david the other. Night but what

821
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 4: does that look like when let's when let's Say minnesota

822
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 4: second pair can take on some of those tougher matchups

823
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 4: and then you absolutely free Up quinn in favor to

824
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 4: to Play hill sixth. COMPETITION i mean like that's going

825
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 4: to be something that makes The wild and, unguardable especially

826
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 4: when you look at now the talent they have up

827
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 4: front two where With capriza you've got you've got a game, Breaker,

828
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 4: boldie you've got a game, Breaker Quinn use you've got

829
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 4: a game. Breaker and Then walstad And gusta center are

830
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 4: one of the league's best goaltending. Tandems it's certainly closed

831
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 4: the gap between them and The Dallas. Stars and, look

832
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: there's still some distance we had with The Colorado, avalanche

833
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 4: but that's true for every team in THE. NHL i

834
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 4: don't think anyone's close To colorado right. Now BUT i

835
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 4: think this is the kind of move where when you

836
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 4: add a superstar Of quinn's, caliber who isn't just going

837
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 4: to make an impact on the power, play not just,

838
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 4: offensively but it's going to be one of the league's

839
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: best play drivers on a night, in night out, BASIS

840
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 4: i think that takes The wild from a spot where

841
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 4: previous to the, TRADE i didn't view them as a

842
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 4: Realistic cup contender. Too All, right they've got a legit

843
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 4: chance to go on a deep. Run and, look it's

844
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 4: unfortunate with the way the divisional platformat is that you

845
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 4: could profile as a Legit cup contender and still end

846
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 4: up bounced In round one if you end up playing

847
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 4: The Dallas stars In round. One BUT i don't think

848
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 4: there's a huge gap right now between The Dallas stars

849
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 4: in The Minnesota. Wild AND i think unless If garin

850
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 4: hadn't made a trade like, THIS i just don't see

851
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 4: how The wild within the next few years would have

852
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 4: even had an opportunity to break through and being an

853
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 4: actual formidable team that could go in a deepost.

854
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: Season, yeah AND i don't think he's done last one for, You,

855
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: harmon BECAUSE i know you got your own radio show to.

856
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 3: Do let me ask. You has the sting worn off

857
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: with the fans?

858
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: There Obviously quinn was incredibly, beloved but now you know

859
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: all you all have to move, on and then you

860
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: see how Good Marko rossi can, be how Good Ze

861
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: boyam can, be how Good Liam ogrin can. Be do

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Speaker 1: you think now that That canucks fans are starting to

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Speaker 1: get excited that whatever you want to call, it a

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Speaker 1: hybrid retool or a rebuild has been accelerated by adding

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Speaker 1: three really good young.

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Speaker 4: PLAYERS i think everybody's excited by the package without a,

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Speaker 4: doubt especially seeing the way That ogren played on the

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Speaker 4: weekend and he was viewed viewed by many as the

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Speaker 4: sort of afterthought After william And. Rossi BUT i think

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Speaker 4: for this fan, base the more important question is whether

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Speaker 4: this organization actually commits the kind of rebuild that will

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Speaker 4: allow this team to build up more than what they already,

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Speaker 4: have WHICH i think the way a lot of people

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Speaker 4: are looking at it is all, right this is a

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Speaker 4: great starting point for the next phase that The canucks

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Speaker 4: are entering, in but they want to see this organization

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Speaker 4: continue to, sell continue to accumulate draft, picks hopefully land

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Speaker 4: a top five or even a top three pick this

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Speaker 4: year so you land up potentially elite. PLAYER i think

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Speaker 4: more than just The quinn trade, return which everybody is

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00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 4: on board, with it's about what comes next and actually

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Speaker 4: having a plan that is future. Oriented WHERE i think

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Speaker 4: over the last, decade this franchise has been. Impatient it's

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00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 4: chased shortcuts to pursue short term. Competitiveness they've traded away

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Speaker 4: a lot of draft, picks and they haven't shown a

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Speaker 4: lot of. Patience AND i think that's going to be

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Speaker 4: key where if they do build the right, way THEN

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Speaker 4: i think the pain of Losing quinn is going to be.

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Speaker 4: Minimized but if they end up end up making missteps

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Speaker 4: along the, way and they end, up let's, say Trading

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Speaker 4: minnesota's first round pick for when now help and they

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Speaker 4: have an Aggressive july one free, agency and you can tell, That,

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Speaker 4: okay they're not actually rebuilding a proper. Way BUT i

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Speaker 4: think that's where the pessimism is going to grow grow

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Speaker 4: again in the.

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Speaker 1: Market makes absolute. Sense, well take care Of, Rossy boyom

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Speaker 1: And ogre and There. Harmon i'm telling, you these are

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Speaker 1: three great, kids great, pros and you'll absolutely love covering

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Speaker 1: those three their.

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Speaker 4: Gems thanks for So.

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Speaker 3: Yep that Is Harmon diyle of The.

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Speaker 1: Athletic you could follow him ON x as well At

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Speaker 1: Harmon dile. Two that's D a y A. L by the,

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Speaker 1: way D a y A. L That's Harmon, dyle one

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Speaker 1: of the greats at The. Athletic just an absolute star

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Speaker 1: on our. Staff when we come, back we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk really the nitty gritty of how This Quinn hughes

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Speaker 1: trade came. About When matt, sells who is the original

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Speaker 1: person that put the seed In Bill ghren's mind to

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Speaker 1: actually go and swing for the. Fences, Here Matt, sells

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Speaker 1: The wild's, Assistant Cheneral, measure will be coming up next

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Speaker 1: with me on the.

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Speaker 3: Fan we'll be right back