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Speaker 2: I have one of those big topics that I want

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Speaker 2: my old radio show, it was one of those topics

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Speaker 2: that I'm got to go on for ninety minutes about. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to go on for about ninety minutes

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Speaker 2: here because this one's more isolated into one area and

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Speaker 2: we can cover it. But it's a topic that needs

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Speaker 2: to be addressed, and it's one that hardly anybody ever

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Speaker 2: focuses on. Before we get to that one, however, we're

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Speaker 2: going to deal with the big story of the day,

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Speaker 2: and that is there's a deal. There's a piece deal

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Speaker 2: between Israel and Amas over Gaza. This seems impossible and

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Speaker 2: nobody will know if it holds. And you know, we

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Speaker 2: don't know if any peace steel holds. You know, some

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Speaker 2: peace steal that was struck one hundred and fifty years

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Speaker 2: ago could fall apart in ten years. Does that mean

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Speaker 2: that it didn't hold? But there is a peace steel

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Speaker 2: now and Israel is leaving Gaza and both sides are

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Speaker 2: going to send all of their hostages back. Apparently one

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Speaker 2: hold up, as Hamas said, well, some of the hostages

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Speaker 2: we don't control, somebody else may have them. So I

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Speaker 2: do want to dive into this story and also explore

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Speaker 2: how Trump, who I think seems to be almost solely

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Speaker 2: difference today visit you line dot com. Hamas has accepted

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Speaker 2: the Trump piece deal that Israel had earlier agreed to. Essentially,

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Speaker 2: it means the war is over. Israel has to withdraw

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Speaker 2: all troops from Gaza. There'll be no Israeli presence left,

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Speaker 2: which is how it was prior to October seventh of

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Speaker 2: two years ago. For all these people say, well, it's

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Speaker 2: occupied here, it's not occupied territory. There were no Israel,

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Speaker 2: there is no There were no Israelis in Gaza. Gaza

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Speaker 2: was controlled by the Gazans who chose to elect idiotically

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Speaker 2: Israeliefs Hamas agrees no more of this going into Israel

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Speaker 2: and killing people. The hostages that have been held are

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Speaker 2: going to finally be released, including some prisoners that Israel

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Speaker 2: has old who go back to Gaza. Now, first of all,

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Speaker 2: one of the reasons that this is happening is Israel

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Speaker 2: kicked Hamas's ass. Israel is willing to agree to this

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Speaker 2: after Hamas started a war two years ago, because Israel

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Speaker 2: realizes that it is dismantled a huge part of Hamas.

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Speaker 2: On the other hand, Hamas never surrendered, and Trump's Trump,

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Speaker 2: I think of trying to broker a deal here, realize

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Speaker 2: the one thing that he wouldn't get is what, in

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Speaker 2: my opinion, you almost always need to end a war.

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Speaker 2: Somebody has to surrender and say we lose. Hamas isn't surrendering,

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Speaker 2: but what's left of Hamas, their tunnels appear to be

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Speaker 2: totally destroyed. Their weaponry appears to be almost non existent,

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Speaker 2: the communication structure is in shamples. So from the perspective

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Speaker 2: about Israel the other component of this, It's just clear

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Speaker 2: the entire rest of the Middle East is tired of

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Speaker 2: How much effort does Iran want to spend in continuing

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Speaker 2: to send hundreds of millions to Hamas over there in Gaza.

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Speaker 2: So Hamas is lost. It's sugar Daddy, the Russians. Putin's

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Speaker 2: of the rest of the Middle East, they're tired of

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Speaker 2: Trump is willing to work with everyone in the Middle East,

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Speaker 2: they've been tied to hesbal On Hamas. What Trump brings

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Speaker 2: You've had all these people on the left free Gaza, free, Gaza, free,

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Speaker 2: Israeli's and Israel is not gonna put up with it

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Speaker 2: every single time it happens. How do you achieve a piece?

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Speaker 2: What you've had, unfortunately here in the West is people

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Speaker 2: they would have left well enough alone and not gone

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Speaker 2: in and invaded Israel two years ago. To understand, you know,

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Speaker 2: Trump is a developer and he understands real estate. You

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Speaker 2: can't have better location than Gaza. It's on the It's

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Speaker 2: first of all, it's a strip. That's its name, the

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Speaker 2: on the water. It could have been anything. In addition

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Speaker 2: to that, they're getting all this international aid pouring in

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Speaker 2: tourism destination. They spent all this money to buy bombs

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Speaker 2: the people of Gaza were evidently too stupid to put

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Speaker 2: some sort of Satan, even though Israel did not occupy Gaza.

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Speaker 2: This is not the West Bank, where you've got Jews

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Speaker 2: that are in Jerusalem, and you've got Christians in Jerusalem

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Speaker 2: at this at fresh eyes. Nobody else in the rest

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Speaker 2: Hamas is essentially beaten. They all, however, want to have

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Speaker 2: a good relationship with the United States for reasons that

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Speaker 2: Trump felt that that was a bridge too far. Now

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Speaker 2: people don't have to say Trump's just doing this so

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Speaker 2: he wins the Nobel Peace Prize. Well maybe he is

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Speaker 2: Just the Nobel Committee is lefties. It doesn't Trump could

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Speaker 2: it to him. More importantly, has he accomplished something that

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Speaker 2: still have their concerns about dealing with Hesbela, the other

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Speaker 2: terrorist organization, the one that has greater control in the

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Speaker 2: West Bank. But what he has achieved here, this is

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Speaker 2: as close as we've come, I think to what Sadat

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Speaker 2: role of Egypt in this. Almost nobody. But you know what, Paul,

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Speaker 2: I'm smarter than everybody else. Well I am, I've picked

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Speaker 2: up on it. Oh, they kept talking about the Gazza.

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Speaker 2: You know, the people of Gaza have nowhere to go.

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Speaker 2: They can't go into Israel. They aren't wanted there. They

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Speaker 2: have to leave Gaza because Gaza's flattened. Whoa Gaza is

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Speaker 2: not surrounded by Israel to the south of Gaza as Egypt.

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Speaker 2: Egypt doesn't want one damn Gazan to come into that country.

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Speaker 2: Nobody wants the Palestinians because no matter who it is,

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Speaker 2: it's dealing not just Israel. The Palestinians have always been

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Speaker 2: nothing but trouble. And that's because Palestinians, for whatever reason,

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Speaker 2: keep gravitating towards terror groups. Do you think Egypt wants

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Speaker 2: any part of Hamas sitting in Egypt. No, So there

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Speaker 2: not accepted a cease fire that will now probably include

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Speaker 2: I'm developing a term here. I don't think I've invented it,

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Speaker 2: mission drift. It's a problem with organizations on the right.

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Speaker 2: Just about every nonprofit that we have in the United

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Speaker 2: First of all, let's discuss why it happens. Nonprofits are

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Speaker 2: is the Badger Institute. I've been ragging on them for

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Speaker 2: some time. They just they're focusing on some like some

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Speaker 2: Most conservative Americans right now are somewhere between upper middle

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Speaker 2: some nitpicking public interest law firm is crabbing because the

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Speaker 2: funding is supposed to go to a fund that bank

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Speaker 2: rolls blooded public schools and overbuilt library systems. Both are

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Speaker 2: hellholes of liberal and doctrination that will finds this a

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Speaker 2: priority is troubling to me and is an indication of

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Speaker 2: the mission drift that plagues so many conservative groups. In

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Speaker 2: the last two years, Republican lawmakers have made numeros compromises

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Speaker 2: with Milwaukee Democrats. The gist of these is, we will

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Speaker 2: give you more money, but you have to use some

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Speaker 2: of it on crime fighting. If WILL gets its way,

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Speaker 2: they will have the money and none of it will

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Speaker 2: be spent on crime fighting. If you respond, I will

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Speaker 2: share it, but please don't use that tired old rule

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Speaker 2: of law tripe. The rule of law is trampled on

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Speaker 2: daily in our country. And the question here is which

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Speaker 2: instances are worth objecting to. If the ACLU or WEAC

447
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: had brought this lawsuit, I would not have been surprised.

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Speaker 2: Isn't WILL supposed to be a counter to all these

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Speaker 2: well funded leftist legal interest groups. If not, what is

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Speaker 2: WILL for? Is will for conservative Americans? Or is it

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Speaker 2: for something or someone else? Again, I have not gotten

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Speaker 2: a response, but again, I send it this morning. We

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Speaker 2: tape in the early afternoon. If there is a response

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Speaker 2: that he wants to share, I'll follow up on a

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Speaker 2: podcast next week. So that's my concern over this whole area.

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Speaker 2: Of mission drift of organizations that are set up. I'm

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Speaker 2: the right. I have this concern now about Turning Point.

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Speaker 2: The reason Turning Point didn't have mission drift is Turning

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Speaker 2: Point was run by Charlie Kirk. There's no drift in

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Speaker 2: the guy. But now as we see internal fights, power

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Speaker 2: scrabbles and so on and avoid in leadership, there's only

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Speaker 2: so much Erica as Widow is taking over can do

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Speaker 2: those chapters all over the country. Is it going to drift?

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Speaker 2: It happens to almost every conservative organization, some of these

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Speaker 2: big foundations that we have at the national level that

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Speaker 2: now you know, the Ford Foundation, all the Carnegie the

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Speaker 2: Fund leftist stuff they started conservative Carnig give was a

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Speaker 2: steal guy, big fat cat corporate titans start these foundations

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Speaker 2: and over off on one hundred years they become essentially

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Speaker 2: Marxist funding organizations. It's just this is this issue of

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Speaker 2: drift is a big one. Now. One of the things

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Speaker 2: that I've do talked about and taking on projects that

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Speaker 2: I can talk to deal with before I croak, is

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Speaker 2: to actually get WILL is not a think tank. WILL

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Speaker 2: is a legal organization. They file lawsuits and defend rights

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Speaker 2: and so on. A think tank, a conservative thing tak

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Speaker 2: to advance these ideas, because we don't have one in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: We have Badger Institute that's not conservative. Badger Institute worries

479
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Speaker 2: about we should make it easier for somebody to get

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Speaker 2: a plumber's license. Someone qualified people come in and fix

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Speaker 2: your toilet, whether or not somebody knows what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: That's their like libertarian thing because they got all this

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Speaker 2: Coke Brothers. I'm a little bit more concerned about the

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Speaker 2: fact that you've got people who've been arrested thirty nine

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Speaker 2: times on felonies that are out there. Darrow Brooksing all

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Speaker 2: over the place. I just throw turned Darrow Brooks into

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Speaker 2: a verb that means it's time for a break. This

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Speaker 2: is the Markedlling podcast. This is the Marked Delling podcast.

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Speaker 2: I have to do a ps on the issue of

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin Institute of Law and Liberty. I pulled their board

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Speaker 2: of directors here. They're all conservative people. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: read them to you. Jim Barry, he's big commercial real

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Speaker 2: estate guy. Conservative, he's not really a suburban type. Michael White,

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Speaker 2: he runs Right Height, which is a local corporation. He's

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Speaker 2: a conservative guy. And then both Michael Greeby's Michael Greeby

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Speaker 2: and his son have the same name, obviously, Michael Greeby

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Speaker 2: form head of the Bradley Foundation, big shot at fully

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Speaker 2: and Lardner the other Michael Greeby, his son. I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's junior, but they're both Michael. I think a

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Speaker 2: different middle initials maybe. Anyway, he's the chief legal consul

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Speaker 2: at right height. Christopher Wolfe, who's a professor at the

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Speaker 2: University of Dallas. I don't really owe him. And then

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Speaker 2: two staffers from the organization. Again, these are all fine people.

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Speaker 2: I just wish some of these organizations, rather than choose

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Speaker 2: somebody who's a big time donor, would get an actual conservative,

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Speaker 2: grats roots advocate. This is one of the in there.

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Speaker 2: That's one of the things that made Turning Points so strong.

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Speaker 2: It was driven from the base. The reason it does

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Speaker 2: such a better job of political organizing than the Republican

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Speaker 2: Party of Wisconsin is the Republican Party of Wisconsin sitting

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Speaker 2: there with fat, lazy old fart sitting on offices in Madison,

512
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Speaker 2: whereas Turning Point is out there, going into campus dorms

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Speaker 2: and organized all right, moving on, Ready to move on, Paul,

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Speaker 2: here's a shock. Can you tell that this that this

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Speaker 2: is sarcastic? In other words, this is it's not going

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Speaker 2: to be a shock. Here's a shock. The guy who

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Speaker 2: started the Palisades fires a lefty, who would have thought

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Speaker 2: they burned down most of southern California. We now have

519
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Speaker 2: found out who started the fire. There were two fires.

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Speaker 2: The Palisades fire was the second one, but it became

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Speaker 2: the bigger one. By the way, why are they all

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Speaker 2: Uber drivers? I mean I think he got it fired

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Speaker 2: from Uber before then, which I mean. The thing is,

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Speaker 2: Uber does have standards. They do have standards. You almost

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Speaker 2: never hear about an Uber driver pulling a gun and robbing.

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Speaker 2: It happened. I mean, you consider it's resilient. They have standards.

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Speaker 2: But part of it is it's not easy work. You

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Speaker 2: can't have a zillion things going on if you're gonna

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Speaker 2: do it unless you're just a hard working kind of person.

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Speaker 2: In some of those are just hard working anyway. So

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Speaker 2: he's like an Uber driver, it's a California Uber driver,

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Speaker 2: and he's unhappy and miserable and angry and this that

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Speaker 2: and the other thing. And he started to get into

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Speaker 2: websites and take a look at big fires and so

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Speaker 2: forth and so on. He's a donor to Act Blue.

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Speaker 2: Act Blue is one of those groups that gives money

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Speaker 2: to Democratic candidates. What a surprise that is. So he

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Speaker 2: starts his fire and burns down all of Liberalville in

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Speaker 2: southern California. People are saying, well, it's both sides. I

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Speaker 2: grant you there are wing nuts on the right. Almost

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Speaker 2: all of them are on the left. And it's not

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Speaker 2: just you say did it, it's why? And I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you why. Almost everybody on the left. This is my observation.

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Speaker 2: And I'm a good observer. Don't you think I'm a

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Speaker 2: good observer of social trends? Almost everybody on the left

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Speaker 2: is a miserable, the unhappy person. And I think that

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Speaker 2: they're miserably unhappy because they don't have God in their lives,

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Speaker 2: which is true of most liberals. So that's an emptiness

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Speaker 2: and a void. They tend not to be aspirational because

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Speaker 2: they're miserable and unhappy. They don't like anything good that happens,

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Speaker 2: because you know, it's like the people who see happiness

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Speaker 2: on Facebook when they're all alone, they get unhappy. Will

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Speaker 2: that Well, that's leftists. They're miserably unhappy. They don't want

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Speaker 2: to see the United States of America thrive. So they

555
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Speaker 2: end up hating the country because they're not happy in it,

556
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Speaker 2: and they blame the country the fact that they're miserable.

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Speaker 2: So they get this alienation and disaffection, and it is

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Speaker 2: fed by all their media sources and their online sources,

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Speaker 2: the messages they're getting on TikTok from leftist grooms, the

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Speaker 2: messages they're getting from the idiots on the view in MSNBC.

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Speaker 2: It's just drilled and drilled and drilled and drilled and

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Speaker 2: drilled into them, and it fuels their unhappiness and their rage.

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Speaker 2: Add in all the drugs that they're all on that

564
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Speaker 2: seem to be backfiring on them, and you get what

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Speaker 2: you get now of this. Katie Porter. Now, I know

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Speaker 2: many of you don't know who she is. Even though

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Speaker 2: you talk about somebody who's gone viral, there's a larger

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Speaker 2: issue in Katie Porter. Katie Porter is the front runner

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Speaker 2: for governor of California. She's a congresswoman. I am fascinated

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Speaker 2: and I brought this. I brought this up with after

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Speaker 2: you know, with Kamala California know is about sixty million.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to say how many they have given, how

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Speaker 2: many illegals that they are. California is a huge state,

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Speaker 2: and it's overwhelmingly democratic, right if you're talking it, there's

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Speaker 2: a like Rhode Island's overwhelmingly democratic, but it's tiny, so

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Speaker 2: you know, you gotta get two senators and when you

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Speaker 2: don't have that many to pick from, you might get

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Speaker 2: a golf right. In fact, Rhode Island has a golf,

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Speaker 2: but California it. Every one of these Democrats in California

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Speaker 2: is ambitious and wants to get to the top. I'm

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Speaker 2: fascinated how some of these dopes get there. Newsim's an exception.

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Speaker 2: New Sims are radical and so on, but he's a

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Speaker 2: well spoken, glib, articulate guy. Most of them are. Kamala

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Speaker 2: can't put a sentence together. How'd she leap frog above her?

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Speaker 2: It isn't just that she bomed Willy Brown, because from

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Speaker 2: what I can tell, Willie Brown boings so many women

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Speaker 2: that did be fifteen thousand of them competing with Kamalo.

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Speaker 2: Now there's Katie Porter, she's the front runner for governor.

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Speaker 2: TV station in Los Angeles. They have all the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: California has a weird way of electing politicians. They don't

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Speaker 2: have a primary system. Republicans and Democrats all run on

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Speaker 2: the same ballot. The top two advance, so and there's

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Speaker 2: a tiered structure to it and so on. But often

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Speaker 2: you'll get a general election where the top two candidates

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Speaker 2: are both Democrats. Usually there's a Republican who will finish,

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Speaker 2: say second, because there's nine Democrats running, splitting the vote,

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Speaker 2: and then in the general election the Democrats. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: the key to winning the governorship in California is to

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Speaker 2: get enough Republicans to join your Democrats. See, you get

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Speaker 2: a plurality of the votes. So the reporter for CBS

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles asked them, and she asked them. She

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Speaker 2: had a script that she asked every one of the

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Speaker 2: main contents is the same three orport questions. They're all softballs,

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Speaker 2: and one of them is how do you expect to

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Speaker 2: appeal to the forty percent of Californian's voted for Trump.

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Speaker 2: It's a fair enough question. And in their system out

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Speaker 2: there where you need to get Democrats and Republicans to

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Speaker 2: vote for you in order to get to the top

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Speaker 2: two or win. And they all answered the question. He said,

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Speaker 2: Kitty porter, why would I need anybody who vote for

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Speaker 2: trupted by me. Another reporter said, well, because of our

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Speaker 2: system here, do you think you're gonna get all sixty

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Speaker 2: percent of the Democrats? You have to get over sixty

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Speaker 2: percent in order to have the knockout. Where you're you know,

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Speaker 2: trying to explain this, and she's barking back at her,

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Speaker 2: and then she asked another like softball question, and like

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Speaker 2: ninety seconds in, Katie, I'm done, takes off her microphone.

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Speaker 2: The thing that was so weird about it is this

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Speaker 2: was not a hostile head of view. First of all,

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Speaker 2: she's a cat, she's a Los Angeles TV reporter. I mean,

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Speaker 2: she's a lefty herself. She was asking all of them

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Speaker 2: these softball questions, and Katy port by the way, they're

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Speaker 2: show it. So they showed this thing and they show

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00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 2: her melt down. They showed the reporter kind of mystified

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Speaker 2: as to why she's blowing up like this. She's getting

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Speaker 2: ripped by everybody out there, including other Democrats, and all

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Speaker 2: the other Democrats are running against her. Say, we answered

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Speaker 2: the question. We don't even think it's an unfair question.

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Speaker 2: She just looked ridiculous. In addition, Megan Kelly's been all

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Speaker 2: over this is you might guess, Megan Kelly's focusing on,

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Speaker 2: among other things, her odd fashioned choice. She's like a

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Speaker 2: big woman, and she's wearing this sleeveless thing, and she's

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Speaker 2: she didn't look good in the interview and the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: And and there's a backstory. It's the same backstory as Kamala.

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Speaker 2: She apparently is a total bitch. You know, Kamala Harris

636
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Speaker 2: had a reputation for going through Stafford's like crazy and

637
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Speaker 2: just eviscerating the well. Katy Porter, who's a member of Congress,

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Speaker 2: has the same reputation. And they are apparently former staffers

639
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Speaker 2: who were on the receiving end of her abuse are

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Speaker 2: now jumping out and leaking their own stuff. And the

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Speaker 2: point I'm bringing all of this up is I actually

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Speaker 2: am surprised that California, which has more Democrats than any

643
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Speaker 2: state of the Union, that it doesn't have more, say

644
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 2: Gavin Newsome types, because they have so many to pick from.

645
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: I mean, in Wisconsin, what we tend to get from

646
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 2: Democrats who get to the top is not common. The

647
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: types we tend to get empty suit non entities. The

648
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: Democrats and Wisconsin are basically a bunch of mediocrities. Tony

649
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: eavers so bland and dull. Nobody outside of Wisconsin ever

650
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 2: heard him. The only introduction is what he was either

651
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: drunk or seeneul or whatever, and he couldn't read the

652
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: photo of the Democratic Tammy Baldwin, the least consequential member

653
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: of the United States Senate. When Moore doesn't do a

654
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: damn thing other than vote yes when the Democratic leaders

655
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: tell her to a vote know when they tell her

656
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 2: to do that. They generally tend to be non entities.

657
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: But in California, the ones that are rising to at

658
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: the very very top appear to be bad at politics.

659
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: It's confusing to me, and it's kind of a new phenomenon.

660
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 2: I mean, California Democrats in the past were sort of eclectic,

661
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 2: like Jerry Brown, brilliant guy, a little unusual, but a

662
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: brilliant guy. Or Cranston died in the wool Liberal but

663
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 2: generally people who would develop a national profile because they

664
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: are smart people. The only one that could put a

665
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: sentence together from California that I noticed anymore, seems to

666
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 2: be Newsome. But otherwise you get like Maxine Waters, I mean,

667
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 2: Pelosi could put a sentence together. Pelosi's smart, but these others.

668
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: How in the world was skaty to the front runner?

669
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: If indeed she's this battle axity. Everybody hates her at

670
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: this interview that she did here that fell off the rails.

671
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: Obviously she must have done other interviews before. And it's

672
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 2: not like, well, of course you're gonna vote for a democract.

673
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: She's got to fight through all these other Democrats to

674
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: get herself up to the top. Next, they held a

675
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: hearing on this stupid proposal to put in red light

676
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 2: cameras all over the city of Milwaukee. It's being proposed

677
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: in the legislature. I'm here to explain why it won't work.

678
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: The bill, by the way, is sponsored by, remember the

679
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: state legislature from Milwaukee. It's not gonna work for the

680
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: same reason that me or Chevy ripping up all the

681
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: streets and putting in the bump of curves isn't gonna work.

682
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 2: It doesn't address the problem. All right, you're right, We've

683
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: got lots of people who just run red lights in Milwaukee.

684
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: They don't stop. For those of you that are naive

685
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: and not understanding of what it's like to live in

686
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: urban America, I'm here to wising you all up. You

687
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: know who's gonna stop when there's a red light camera?

688
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: You and me, You and me, and I know this.

689
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: There's a few of them in Floord, are not many

690
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 2: by Wayzapp even tells me which ones they are. Which

691
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: is but you can actually tell you see the little

692
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: thing here in Milwaukee, people get used. You'll see those

693
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: little things about the trafficking. Those are the sensors that

694
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: tell it when there's no traffic coming, switch over to green.

695
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: The cameras, you can see them, they're sitting there. Illinois,

696
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: Chicago had them all over the place and they were

697
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: just a rebellion. They took them out. You and me.

698
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: The people who are driving recklessly aren't going to be

699
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: deterred by the red light cameras. Said, why they don't

700
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: pay their fights? We don't in Milwaukee jail, people who

701
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: won't play pay traffic fights. They don't pay their fights.

702
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: They're gonna keep doing it. They have ninety seven zillion

703
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: of these the mill. I keep saying this and it

704
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: doesn't sink into people, and people keep forgetting it. I

705
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: want you not to forget this. Milwaukee County Jail will

706
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: not accept someone on a traffic ward. So if there's

707
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: a warrant for your arrest for unpaid fines, the jail

708
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: in Milwaukee rejects you because it's full. They have to

709
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: keep enough space for more serious criminals. So if you're

710
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: somebody that has a zillion traffic warrants, there's no reason

711
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: unless you're like a responsible citizen for whom there are

712
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: consequences for not doing these things. Here's what will work.

713
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: Should I explain what will work? Will you laugh? You

714
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: don't like you think I'm making this? See well, I

715
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: understand I am sometimes sarcastic. This isn't they do this

716
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 2: in some states. We don't do it in Milwaukee. Everyone.

717
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: The one thing you do they do do when you

718
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: don't pay your fines is they take away your driver's license.

719
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: So we have a combination in Milwaukee. If people who've

720
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: never had a driver's license and people who are you

721
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: the suspended are revoked. If you are pulled over and

722
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: you don't have a driver's license, you tow the car, Paul.

723
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: That will work. Now, I know that some of you

724
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 2: who've never had your cars to would have no clue

725
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: as to why this will work. Do you know why

726
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: this will work? You gotta pay fortune to get it

727
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 2: out of the toll lot. You get told once that

728
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 2: car might be gone. Secondly, if the vehicle is not registered,

729
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: which zillions of them are not because they don't pay

730
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: the registration fee, or they were suspended because of the

731
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: non payment, you told the vehicle. If we passed the

732
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: law that everybody who was caught driving without a license,

733
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 2: or they're an unregistered vehicle who was pulled over by

734
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Speaker 2: the police for any reason, or if there's a warrant

735
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: on them for unpaid fines, had their vehicles told, this

736
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: would fix most of this problem. It doesn't fix the

737
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: problem of the young people that are stealing cars and

738
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: joy riding and running through the red lights. But all

739
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: the others no car, they can't do it. Why don't

740
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 2: you just ask me to solve these problems? Well, am

741
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: I not right? Do you think this would work? Well,

742
00:44:54,880 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 2: of course it would work. One story here to share

743
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: with you. Earlier in the week, I was discussing this

744
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: issue of the Milwaukeeans who do not have flood insurance

745
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: who are now facing massive bills after the flood that

746
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 2: we had, and I explained the problem with flood insurance.

747
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: Flood insurance actually is not a smart thing to buy.

748
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: The only reason you buy it is what you end

749
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: up doing is you overpay for something you're hardly ever

750
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: gonna need along the lines that well, maybe you will

751
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 2: need it. And if you don't live in a flood

752
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: plain money, you're gonna flood when you have a storm

753
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: like we had on the south side of then those

754
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 2: people got flooded. I was contacted by an insurance agent

755
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 2: who I won't name him here, but he gave me

756
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: the numbers, and he points out that almost nobody it

757
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 2: has a homeowners policy with his agency has flood insurance.

758
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: But after August, he's got a chart here, the request

759
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: for information on flood insurance exploded. He's got a zero

760
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: to thirty six chart and it went from like one

761
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: one on one to thirty six in August. And then

762
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: when we're picked out, however, he pointed in why did

763
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: that happen? All these people, you know, saw the impact

764
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: of the people that got damaged by the flood and

765
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: the askt of a flood insurance, he said, almost none

766
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 2: of them actually bought the flood insurance. The flood insurance

767
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: can run anywhere from five hundred and twenty five hundred

768
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 2: dollars a year. Well, that's a lot of money on

769
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: the rare chance that you're going to have a flood

770
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: in your basement. And most people don't buy it because

771
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: you know, the insurance companies that sell this stuff, obviously

772
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: they're making a killing off, but they take a big

773
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: hit when they have to make payouts on this. But

774
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: they usually one to pay out a fortune and flooding

775
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: because most people don't buy the flood insurance. So I

776
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: have an insurance agent came who said, it's exactly the

777
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: problem flood and the reason flood insurance is so extremely

778
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: high is when the insurance companies pay it's offen a

779
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: massive big check that's out there, but they would just

780
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 2: as soon not deal with it, so they charge a

781
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: high premium forward and so on. And of course the

782
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: rates are higher if you live in a floodplain, so

783
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: the people who have tend to buy flood insurance if

784
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: people who live in a flood playing, because there's a

785
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 2: risk for flooding that goes on. If you don't live

786
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 2: in a flood playing, you think, well, what are the chances, Well, really,

787
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: the only chance is going to be if you get

788
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: a storm so badly that your some pup can't keep

789
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: up like the one that we just had. And we

790
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: got twelve to fourteen inches of rain, and I ask

791
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: you if you had flood insurance? You said no? Is

792
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 2: that still the answer? You don't know it? It would

793
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: be kind of funny now if you, like, three days

794
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 2: after that, got a flood or something. I would find

795
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 2: that in music. I don't think I would have any

796
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 2: sympathy because I think that it would be an interesting

797
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: topic and I'd rather have an interesting topic and Peel,

798
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd feel a little bad for you. Sure

799
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: quickly get over. This is the Mark Belling Podcast Football Preview.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, It's time for the Mark Belling Weekly

801
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: Football Preview and some point spread picks, and we're joined

802
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: as always by Mike murletta of American sports analysts in Madison.

803
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: Their website is a sa win ones dot com. We're

804
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: getting into the guts of the football season. Almost all

805
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: the college teams are now moving into conference play. NFL

806
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: games have started to get important. What would you like

807
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: to share about anything going on this weekend?

808
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: Mike at asa, I think what we're gonna do, Marcus,

809
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: we'll decide later today and they can check our website tomorrow.

810
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 3: I think we'll have a discounted weekend package all of

811
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 3: our football plays between Friday and Monday, and we may

812
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 3: throw in baseball to our base I don't do baseball,

813
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 3: but our baseball run has been insane, where since the

814
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 3: end of July, we have a record in baseball of

815
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 3: fifty three and twenty three since the end of July. Wow,

816
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: So we may throw something.

817
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: You know, one of these guys that's picking these minus

818
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: three twenty five favorites.

819
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 3: Right, No, no, no, no, no, no, nope, no small favorites

820
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 3: and underdogs and totals. Well, I have.

821
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 2: A sacred never play a team in baseball over minus

822
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 2: one forty. I have no idea if the math holds

823
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: up on that or not. But I mean, you just

824
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: have to win so many games to make up for

825
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 2: one loss. Anyway, as long as you're here, we're doing

826
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: the podcast early in the afternoon on Thursday, before the

827
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: Brewers play. Do you have any sense on the remainder

828
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: of the Brewers Cubs game? Where As you said, you're

829
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: not the baseball guy over at the company, and you

830
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: don't really have anything better to offer than the rest

831
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Speaker 2: of us.

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00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't do the baseball for US.

833
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 3: I follow the Brewers obviously, and uh, you know the line.

834
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: The line was around even when they didn't know who

835
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: was pitching. And now it looks like since Parolta's been

836
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 3: thrown up there, it looks like they're minus one twenty. Yeah,

837
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 3: the Brewers are the better team. They're the better team.

838
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 3: I think they'll win in the long run here and

839
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 3: hopefully they ended today.

840
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: Well. The problem is is that now that Quinn Priester stunk,

841
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 2: the Brewers have one starting pitcher. They just they won.

842
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: It's Freddy Peralta. And I'm a nervous nelly about the

843
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: whole thing, but I think that that first inning last

844
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 2: night against the Cubs was just a disaster. They don't

845
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 2: have that inning, they win the game, and Freddie Parolta

846
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 2: pitch's game one of the championship series. The pitching's totally

847
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 2: set up. Now, best case scenario, they survive and they

848
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 2: had to use up Freddy. Anyway, let's talk about football.

849
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: Enough about baseball, let's first turn our attention to college football.

850
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 2: Once I found myself talking about Indiana every week. But

851
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 2: one of the feature games this week, which I think

852
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: is really interesting is Indiana, which continues to look like

853
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 2: a powerhouse in the Big Ten, either winning big or

854
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: winning by just enough. And they face Oregon, who might

855
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: be one of the best teams in the country. They

856
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 2: started this skid that Penn State had. They're both unbeaten.

857
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: The game is out there in Oregon. Oregon's a pretty

858
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: hefty favorite. Really hard to evalue it. I think how

859
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: good both of these teams are. Is this the week

860
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: that Indiana gets its come up and said is blown

861
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 2: out of the stadium? Or do they make another statement here?

862
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 3: Well? The line the line move is interesting because it

863
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 3: open Oregon nine and a half and it's down to seven.

864
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 3: So those are guys that bet money for a living

865
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 3: that move that quickly down to seven. I don't know

866
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 3: necessarily agree or disagree with it. The East to West thing,

867
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 3: Let's talk about something first before I get to the

868
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 3: East to the West Big Ten. Both these teams are

869
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 3: a lead on both sides of the ball. If you

870
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: look at their numbers so far this season, there's eighteen

871
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 3: teams in college that average at least seven yards per play,

872
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: and there's twenty two defenses that allow four and a

873
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 3: half yards per play or less, there's five that do both,

874
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 3: and these are two of the five, along with Ohio

875
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 3: State Old Dominion in Texas Deck, so two very good teams.

876
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 3: The east to West thing would worry me a little bit.

877
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 3: Since the start of last season, teams going from the

878
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: Midwest or the East to play in the West Coast

879
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 3: are four and fourteen straight up and five twelve and one.

880
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 2: Again, No, I never would have thought that. I know,

881
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 2: it's hard to go the other way, time zone and

882
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: all of that stuff, but you know, and West Coast

883
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: isn't all the same. You know, you go to play UCLA,

884
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: you're at an empty stadium. You go to play Oregon

885
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: and you're in a rock as packed home field stadium.

886
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: I never would have not thought it would have been

887
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 2: that drastic. There's probably no reason for it other than

888
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 2: home field advantage, but it's obviously something to take into consideration.

889
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 2: And now that the Big Ten stretches from coast to coast,

890
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: it's probably something to keep an eye on.

891
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, definitely. I ran those numbers yesterday and

892
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 3: I was a little shocked too, not only straight up

893
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 3: but against the spread too, only five twelve and one.

894
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 3: Oregon's won forty one of the last forty two home games.

895
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: They're tough to beat there. And just Signetty, the head

896
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 3: coach of Indiana, put what he's done in perspective quick

897
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 3: He's sixteen and two at Indiana. Before he came the

898
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 3: previous four years they won fifteen games total in four

899
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 3: years and he's sixteen and two there, so he's turned

900
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 3: them around quick well.

901
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: And Lanning, the coach of Oria. You might have the

902
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: two best coaches at all of college college football in

903
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: this game. Dan Lanning at Oregon is just you know,

904
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: that's always been a good offensive program. He ran the

905
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: defense at Georgia and now they're just good on both

906
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: sides of the ball. Another really interesting game, Wisconsin plays Iowa.

907
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: The game is in Madison on Saturday. This is probably

908
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: Wisconsin's best chance for a win. Iowa was a very

909
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 2: good team, but as usual with their offense, isn't that good.

910
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: Wisconsin has no offense, but their defense has looked better

911
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: and better. I believe Iowa is favored by three or

912
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: three and a half, which is the smallest side in

913
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: Wisconsin seine in a couple of weeks. Do the Badgers

914
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 2: have a chance to win this game? And do they

915
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 2: have any kind of an offense, given that they appeared

916
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 2: to now be committed for maybe the rest of the

917
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: season to Hudter Simmons, the third stringer transfer from Southern Illinois,

918
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 2: as their quarterback.

919
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 3: Well, don't expect much offense in this game. Obviously. This

920
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 3: is the lowest total of the season in college football,

921
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 3: right around thirty five points, so it hadn't been anything

922
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 3: lower this season. Both offenses are poor. I mean, they

923
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 3: both rank in the bottom twenty in yards per game,

924
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: yards for play, all that kind of stuff. Wisconsin's dead

925
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 3: last in scoring in the Big Ten. Wisconsin struggled offensively

926
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 3: this year, and now they play a really good defense

927
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 3: that's had their number the last two years. And to

928
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 3: put it in perspective, mark the last two seasons against Iowa.

929
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 3: Wisconsin's had twenty five offensive possessions and scored one touchdown

930
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 3: in the last two seasons against Iowa. They need to

931
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 3: find some offense somehow. I think they'll slow Iowa down.

932
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 3: But you know, Iowa might get to thirteen points and

933
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 3: win this game. They might not have to get to

934
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 3: more than that. I don't know if Wisconsin's going to

935
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 3: score more than a couple of touchdowns even if they

936
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 3: get to that. The one thing Wisconsin has I don't

937
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 3: want to say has going for them, but this is

938
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 3: the one game they focused on the offseason, the number

939
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 3: one game they focused on after losing forty two to

940
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 3: ten and giving up over three hundred yards rushing last year.

941
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 3: A lot of Iowa talk, forty two pushups after practice

942
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 3: for the Iowa game, all that kind of stuff. So

943
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 3: they're really focused on that game. Are they good enough

944
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 3: to make it matter? I don't, And they have to.

945
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: Do it with a third string quarterback, and just third Yeah,

946
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 2: who's looked better I think than the second string quarterback.

947
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 2: But neither of them approached for Billy Edwards, who I

948
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 2: think he's out for the season. They're not committing to that,

949
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 2: but I don't see any particular sign that magically he's

950
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: going to have a good knee. Again, let's turn our

951
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: attention to the NFL and start with the Packers game.

952
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 2: The Packers Bengals game the middle of this week got

953
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: a lot more interesting than it did before. The Bengals

954
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 2: now have a new quarterback. Their star quarterback, Joe Burrow

955
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 2: is out for many more weeks. They traded to Cleveland

956
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: for Joe Flacco, who is about eighty six years old,

957
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: but isn't bad. He not good, but he isn't bad

958
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: the Packers. Yeah, poll points out. He already beat the Packers.

959
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 2: He's got an opportunity to beat the Packers twice with

960
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: different teams before the middle of the before the middle

961
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: of October. Very very interesting game. First of all, is

962
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 2: Flacco going to start just after a couple of practices

963
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 2: and your thoughts on the Packers and the Bengals in

964
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 2: green Bay?

965
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like he's going to start, which is

966
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if that's good for green

967
00:55:58,600 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 3: Bay or bad for green Bay.

968
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 2: First of all, Browning, Jake Browning was terrible for Cincinnati.

969
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 2: I mean, they had no offense at all after Burrow.

970
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 3: Had done no. They've scored thirty seven total points in

971
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 3: the last three games, so they can't score. Can Flacco

972
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 3: come in one week and beat a savior there? I

973
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean he's thirty first out of thirty

974
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,479
Speaker 3: two starting quarterbacks and QBR, ahead of only cam Ward

975
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 3: of the Titans. He hasn't been great, and as Paul said,

976
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 3: he beat green Bay already, but he beat green Bay

977
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 3: by because the defense.

978
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cleveland's defense beat Green Bay. Joe Flacco didn't do

979
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: anything to beat to beat Green Bay. And if the

980
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: Packers lose, it's going to have to be the same thing.

981
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 2: I think for Cincinnati's defense beats Green Bay and that's.

982
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 3: Not gonna happen. I'm in their defense ranks twenty fifth

983
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 3: or lower in scoring, total yards, pretty much everything. And

984
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 3: if you take up Cincinnati's first game against Cleveland, where

985
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 3: they held a bad offense to sixteen points, they've allowed

986
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 3: thirty five points per game from that point on. You know,

987
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 3: I just don't think they can stay in this game.

988
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 3: There's a reason Green Bay's favored by fourteen points. One

989
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 3: of the Packer.

990
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: The Packers need to kill somebody. They need to get

991
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: their mojo back, and it's off the by, it's in Lambeau,

992
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 2: Cincinnati is you know, it's everything points and if Green

993
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: Bay doesn't win big, there's reasons to be really concerned

994
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: about what the Packers are. Like a lot of other

995
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: interesting games in the NFL, I mean, you've got Detroit

996
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 2: playing Kansas City and so on. The one I cherry

997
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 2: picked out though, is the Seahawks and the Jaguars. They're

998
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: both having very good seasons, and I think it's fair

999
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: to say that not many people expected either of them

1000
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: to have very good seasons. In both cases, however, there's

1001
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: just a sense that it's a mirage. I mean, I

1002
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 2: have no clue as to how Jacksonville beat Kansas City

1003
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: last week, but they beat Kansas City last week. I mean,

1004
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: they're all gained by eighteen zillion yards. They had to

1005
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: score on a remarkable touchdown run by Trevor Lawrence, whose

1006
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: quarterback stats are not any good at all. Seattle, they're

1007
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: in a really, really tough division. They look to me

1008
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: like maybe they were the worst team in that division,

1009
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: but they're not. Another two of them faced one another.

1010
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: Give me your thoughts on the Seahawks and the Jaguars.

1011
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Seattle's off a tough wall. We were on Seattle

1012
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 3: last week at home against Tampa They lost that game.

1013
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 3: They averaged eight point six yards per play on offense

1014
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 3: in that game. But their defense, who had been really good,

1015
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 3: was not good last week against Tampa Bay. And and

1016
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 3: on a side, no Tampa Bay one on the last

1017
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 3: second field goal. Again, Tampa Bay has got four wins

1018
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 3: this year have all come in the last minute, and

1019
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 3: three of their last three other four wins have come

1020
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 3: in the final six seconds of the game.

1021
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: So the weird thing about Tampa Bay is every week

1022
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: the points spread in their game it's three three, they're

1023
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: favored by three or dog by three. It's always three,

1024
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 2: and sometimes the infrontal the three and a half.

1025
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 3: Anyway, Yeah, that's because they win on the last play.

1026
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 2: Of the game, I guess.

1027
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 3: So neither team's in great situation. Obviously, Seattle's longest travel

1028
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 3: you can probably make. But Jacksonville off Monday night and

1029
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 3: you mentioned they got out game four hundred and seventy

1030
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 3: six to three nineteen Jacksonville doing it.

1031
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: We'll took the chiefs of that game, and it was

1032
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: just it was Kansas City played better. In fact, Kansas

1033
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: City's another hard read in the Detroit Kansas City game

1034
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: this weekend, which we don't have time to get to.

1035
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 2: Really really tough call as well, because Kansas City is

1036
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 2: usually they're worse than their record. This year they're better.

1037
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: They're better than the record. Anyway, finish off your thought

1038
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: of Jacksonville.

1039
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 3: Mike, Yeah, Jacksonville's winning because of the turnover margin. We

1040
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 3: know how important that is in the NFL. They're plus

1041
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 3: eight turnovers. They got fourteen takeaways, which is four more

1042
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 3: than anyone else in the NFL. And last week they

1043
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 3: won by three points despite a ninety nine yard interception return.

1044
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 3: That's a fourteen point swing and they still had to

1045
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 3: score in the last few seconds to win that game.

1046
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 3: They shouldn't have won that game, Paul, that was a tough,

1047
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 3: tough loss there. You know, if they can keep creating turnovers,

1048
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 3: they're going to keep winning. That's just the way it is.

1049
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 3: I don't think Jacksonville's as good as their record.

1050
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: There's a lot of teams that are as good as

1051
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 2: their record this year, and there's a lot of teams

1052
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 2: that seem better than their records. But nineteen million coaches

1053
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: have said, your record is your record, all right, speaking

1054
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: of records, I'm having a very good year with my

1055
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: picks here, and nobody else said. This program seems to be.

1056
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: Paul was the only losey last week with that aforementioned

1057
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: lost to Jacksonville. Took the Chiefs to win by four

1058
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 2: or more. Mike got off the Schneider had a very

1059
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 2: good pick. Cincinnati. That's college Cincinnati, University of Cincinnati. They

1060
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 2: beat Iowa State. They were favored by one and a half,

1061
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: and I think that it was an eight point game

1062
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 2: and kind of dominated them. Cincinnati is one of those

1063
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: kind of under the radar teams in college football that

1064
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 2: appears to be pretty good, and I had to win

1065
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 2: as well. I'm now five and one. I'm going to

1066
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 2: keep going out about five on one, because Paul, after

1067
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: this week, I'm going to be five and two. I

1068
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 2: could not find a game that I liked. I just

1069
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 2: could not. Anyway. I took the Lions to beat the

1070
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 2: Bengals by more than ten, and it was only thirteen,

1071
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 2: but a little misleading there. They were up twenty eight

1072
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 2: to I think three in the late in the third quarter,

1073
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: and Cincinnati scored a couple of late touchdowns two point

1074
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: conversion and Detroit got a safety and all of that

1075
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: at the end. But I won and I covered that.

1076
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 2: All right, All of that is the past. Let's get

1077
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 2: to this weekend, Paul. You get to go first. Which

1078
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 2: game are games you want to hear? The line on

1079
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 2: the Bears at the Commanders every week he asked me

1080
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: about a game that's impossible to figure out. I have

1081
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 2: no clue on that game. Let me find it. The

1082
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 2: Bears at the Commanders games in Washington. It's on Monday night,

1083
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 2: and the Commanders, who still don't have Daniels, are four

1084
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 2: and a half point favorites. They were looked much better

1085
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 2: last week than most people thought they would. Let me

1086
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: find that here he's asking you, surely, oh, here it is.

1087
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: That's that's yeah. There's two Monday night games. That's a

1088
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 2: little mixed up. There's two Monday night games, which is

1089
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 2: really stupid that they did. Don't we all agree that

1090
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: that's stupid. Well, especially they're up against it's going to

1091
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 2: be there's two Major League Baseball playoff games that night

1092
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 2: that night too, and hopefully the Brewers that were in

1093
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 2: one of them. If they're not in one of them,

1094
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 2: it's because they've lost the cub Series altogether. Anyway, that game,

1095
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 2: Buffalo is at Atlanta and the Bills are favored by

1096
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 2: four and a half on the road four and a half.

1097
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 2: They're both four and a half. You're going to take

1098
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 2: Washington to beat the Bears by more than four and

1099
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 2: a half. By the way, before you get to that,

1100
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 2: do you prefer Buffalo or Atlanta? You would have taken Buffalo.

1101
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 2: I would have taken Atlanta, but as I said, I

1102
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 2: don't have a strong opinion on anything. I think we're

1103
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 2: talking about teams. Some teams are not as good as

1104
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 2: their record, and other teams are better than the record.

1105
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 2: I think Buffalo has struck me as a team that

1106
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 2: is nowhere near as good as their record. They just

1107
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 2: seem to have. They don't seem as strong to be

1108
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 2: as they were as I thought they were going to be. Anyway,

1109
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: you're saying the Commanders over the Bears. Boy, these are

1110
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 2: too completely question mark teams to me that are hard

1111
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 2: to figure out. I mean, why do you like the Commanders?

1112
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 2: Paul says, the Bears are off the by The Bears

1113
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: just came off of they had a win before their bye.

1114
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 2: You say, yeah, Dallas, But well, how did Green Bay

1115
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: do against that same Dallas team. I mean, Washington doesn't

1116
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 2: have the quarterback, but they're still putting up points. But

1117
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: their defense is She's I have no clue on that game,

1118
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 2: but I'm kind of clueless on every game in the

1119
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 2: NFL this weekend. What are your thoughts of the Bears

1120
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 2: in Washington?

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01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bears are in a better situation. I mean, they

1122
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 3: have the week off and Washington played in LA last week.

1123
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 3: But Daniels is back. He played last week?

1124
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 2: Is back. I guess I was mixed up about that.

1125
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 2: There's so many quarterbacks that have been heard of it

1126
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 2: and mixed up about who's back and who isn't.

1127
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 3: Okay, Daniels playing, Yeah, he played last week. Chicrgo's coming

1128
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 3: off a bye. They beat the Raiders two weeks ago,

1129
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 3: the twenty five to twenty four and got dominated yardage

1130
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 3: wise by the Raiders. This is the infamous hail Mary

1131
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 3: from last week. If last year, if you remember Washington

1132
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 3: scored on like a fifty five yard hail Mary at

1133
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 3: the buzzer to beat Chicago last week. If you're the

1134
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 3: last year, if you remember that game, I don't have

1135
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 3: a real feel on this game. We probably won't use

1136
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 3: it either way.

1137
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 2: Okay, give me a gamer games you'd like her about Mike.

1138
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 3: Let's stay in the NFL. Let's look at the game

1139
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 3: we talked about Seattle.

1140
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 2: Jacksonville, Seattle and Jacksonville. All right, Yeah, that game is

1141
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville and the line is one and a half.

1142
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 2: The Jaguars are favorite at home by one and a half.

1143
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 3: I'm taking Seattle, You're taking Seattle.

1144
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 2: Well, Jacksonville just came off of one of the most

1145
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 2: implausible wins I've ever seen. Seattle is as we're saying

1146
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 2: that they're better than I thought they'd be. You like

1147
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 2: the Seahawks on the road. This is one of those

1148
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 2: West Coast teams going over and playing on the East

1149
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 2: Coast and the long trip and all of that. But

1150
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 2: we went through some of your thoughts and give me

1151
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 2: the reason that you tip over towards Seattle.

1152
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the only thing I'd don't like about this

1153
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 3: game is Seattle going to the west going to the

1154
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 3: East Coast. Again. We talked about it. Seattle is off

1155
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 3: a loss where they probably should have won. They're going

1156
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 3: to the East Coast against Jaguars on a short week,

1157
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 3: which kind of negates the long travel, coming off their

1158
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 3: biggest win in three or four years, a game they

1159
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 3: never should have won. Jacksonville's had three or four games

1160
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: they probably shouldn't have won this year. We talked about

1161
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 3: the turnovers. Jacksonville is getting out gained yards for playing

1162
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 3: yards per game this year in their games, Seattle has

1163
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 3: the second best yards per play margin in the NFL.

1164
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 3: They have much better numbers offensively and defensively. Seattle's the

1165
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 3: better team here, they're getting points. If Jacksonville doesn't get

1166
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 3: two or three turnovers again from Seattle, I think. I

1167
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 3: think Seattle wins this game. So I'm gonna take Seattle

1168
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 3: plus the one and a half all.

1169
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: Right time to get a pick for me. And as

1170
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 2: I say, I struggled, part of me wants to take

1171
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: the Lions again to beat Kansas City. They're an underdog

1172
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 2: for having sakes against Kansas City, and Detroit's offense just

1173
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 2: is unstoppable. But there's something that bothers me about that game,

1174
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 2: and that is that I can't get a full rid

1175
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 2: on Kansas City right now. And I also think that

1176
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 2: Kansas City needs to win a whole lot more than

1177
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 2: Detroit does, so I just can't go there. So I'm

1178
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 2: not doing that. I talk myself out of about a

1179
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 2: zillion other games, so I'm gonna get it out of

1180
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 2: the way very very early. I've got a game that's

1181
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 2: going on tonight, and you talk about an innocuous game

1182
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,959
Speaker 2: in which hardly anybody listening to me is gonna know anything.

1183
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 2: But either of these teams, they're both pretty good. Though.

1184
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 2: I'm going into the AAC, the American Association Conference East

1185
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 2: Carolina is at Tulane. Toulane, of course, is from New Orleans.

1186
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 2: Tulane at home is favored by six and a half,

1187
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 2: and I'm taking East Carolina. East Carolina is off to

1188
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,919
Speaker 2: a pretty good start. They're only bad loss so far

1189
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: was to BYU, who's really really good. Tulane just does

1190
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 2: not have much offense. Tulane started the season with a

1191
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: couple of impressive wins, and they paced it Northwestern. But

1192
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 2: I don't think they have a lot of offense. The

1193
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 2: quarterback isn't any good at all, is competing only fifty

1194
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 2: four percent of his passes. East Carolina's quarterback is competing,

1195
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 2: completing sixty eight percent of his passes. The Tulane coach

1196
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 2: is an overrated guy named some Row. East Carolina's coach

1197
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 2: is a genius. He took over in the middle of

1198
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 2: last season on an interim basis from the head coach there.

1199
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: His name was Houston, and they've done nothing but win

1200
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 2: ever since. They've been rolling since that point. And I

1201
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 2: think that they're very good on defense and decent enough

1202
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 2: on offense. I think that they win the game straight up.

1203
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 2: I just think East Carolina is a better team than

1204
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 2: people think. Also, there's been some line movement on that

1205
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 2: game in which the line went down. In other words,

1206
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 2: East Carolina is not getting as many points. Mike talked

1207
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 2: about that a little bit earlier. I think East Carolina

1208
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 2: is a better team than people think, and they can

1209
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 2: win the game. It's a very tepid pick. However, at

1210
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: a normal week, that would have been my sixth or

1211
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 2: seventh choice. I just really couldn't find anything I like

1212
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 2: more than that, so went in doubt. I took an

1213
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 2: underdog so I can get some points and maybe, if

1214
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 2: nothing else, lose by six points and still cover the spread.

1215
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 2: Do you have any thoughts in that game? I know

1216
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 2: you know about every single game that's being played this weekend,

1217
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 2: what about that one?

1218
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I don't disagree with that. The line came

1219
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 3: from plus seven nine and plus six and a half,

1220
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 3: which is telling it.

1221
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 2: In the early season, line was higher, and the power

1222
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 2: ratings at the beginning of the year were higher, and

1223
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 2: Tulane was expected to contend to win the conference in

1224
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 2: East Carolina and the second half, and I think after

1225
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 2: what we've seen right now, I think the teams are

1226
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 2: equivalent teams. I don't know if Tulaane is a home

1227
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 2: field advantage planned on there. They used to have to

1228
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 2: play in the super Dome. They don't do that anymore.

1229
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 2: They've got a campus, they think on the stadium. But

1230
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 2: anything else you want to give me, I want to

1231
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 2: hear any other reason I'm right. Do you have any

1232
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 2: other reason to think I'm right?

1233
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 3: Mike, No, I definitely agree with that side. I do

1234
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 3: if you look at Tulanes played a little bit tougher schedule.

1235
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 3: But if you look at just the statistics, and that

1236
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 3: can sometimes be misillading, but East Carolina's a top thirty

1237
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 3: offense and defense. Tulane ranks around seventieth offense and their

1238
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 3: defense is below one hundred, ranked one hundreds.

1239
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 2: I looked at both of those numbers. East Carolina also,

1240
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 2: even though they don't score a lot of points, they

1241
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 2: play at a high pace, and I know you talk

1242
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 2: about that whole pace factory and so on. They've got

1243
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 2: an innovative offensive guy. And as I say, the quarterback

1244
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 2: over there isn't bad, and Tulane's quarterback just u isn't

1245
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 2: any good at all. One other quick point, not to

1246
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 2: obsess on my game. East Carolina's off the by They

1247
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 2: played Army two weeks ago, Army always moves the ball

1248
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 2: because they've got that unique running game. They held Army

1249
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 2: to six points and Army's okay, Army beat Kansas State

1250
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 2: this year. They beat him twenty eight to six. I

1251
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 2: was just impressed by that game. That's a beatdown on

1252
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball of a team in their

1253
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 2: conference and one that usually puts up a fair number

1254
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 2: of points. So I think East Carolina's defense can hold

1255
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 2: to lane and check. So that's my thought.

1256
01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't disagree with that, all right.

1257
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 2: Mike's website is ASA wins dot com. You can see

1258
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 2: what he and his partner Lee have going on, and

1259
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 2: they mentioned they have a special little come up. We're

1260
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 2: doing this on Thursday afternoon, a little bit later on,

1261
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 2: so check their website and see what's going on there

1262
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 2: ASA wins dot com. That's it for this weekend for

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01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,320
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