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Speaker 1: Oh good, what's that fool doing? I don't know football.

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Speaker 2: The Soldier field is silenced. You could hear a snowflake

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Speaker 2: kiss the crossbar.

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Speaker 1: Have the silence you hear is lambeau Field nine to noon,

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Speaker 1: Bob personal foul clipping. This an old fashioned ass kicking

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Speaker 1: right here and that's a fact. Kiss rushing time for

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Speaker 1: two more big boys back.

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Speaker 2: Right, signs of Zukie trying to get a round start

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Speaker 2: he did, Suzuki, I'm off near the goal line by Karasankos,

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Speaker 2: with Loma back up Tom for Hudson once more.

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Speaker 1: Suzukie on the pop up lay papers Field fifteen second

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Speaker 1: tap that put Montreal in fiance George in the paint.

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Speaker 3: Hanks Bailey rises rooted in the DMPEX ricage.

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Speaker 1: But back. That's still good. Jazz still with it.

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Speaker 3: George thirty mill Tarter his career night continues, forty three

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Speaker 3: shads now leading by five. Fiance George will dribble this

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Speaker 3: out for the second time this season. The Timberwolves have

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Speaker 3: lost three consecutive games. Friday in Houston, Saturday at San Antonio,

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Speaker 3: Tonight into Utah. A forty three point fourth quarter for

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Speaker 3: the Utah Jazz.

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Speaker 1: They rally from fifty down to win it.

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Speaker 2: Cool night on the local sports landscape. Last evening mister

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Speaker 2: Medved's team ll Benchi l Heinze Hell and now it's

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Speaker 2: knowing Helle.

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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: This is nine to noon Paul Allen, mad producer by

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Speaker 2: my side, Parker Fox, by our side at Parker Fox

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Speaker 2: two four via the tweet machine follow if you are

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Speaker 2: so inclined. Twins manager Derek Shelton will be in this

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Speaker 2: studio today at eleven o'clock. Mister p Fox, are you're

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Speaker 2: going to come back from First Resource Bank Minneapolis and

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Speaker 2: get a selfie for your insta with the manager?

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Speaker 1: I need one.

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Speaker 4: I heard he's an excellent guy, so I'm excited for

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Speaker 4: the ability to listen to that and to see the

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Speaker 4: direction that Twin's going.

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Speaker 1: Now, you know, notice how you stopped there.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited for the season, okay, and then you stopped

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Speaker 2: because you're MoU to meat. I raised very respectful young man.

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Speaker 2: You're not really excited for the season. You're excited for

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Speaker 2: the opportunity for mister Shelton. You're excited for the gregarious

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Speaker 2: nature of said manager. Nine to noon today at eleven o'clock,

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Speaker 2: and you're excited for whatever deals you're surge me is

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Speaker 2: gonna cut with mister Shelton because he's a bourbon connoisseur

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Speaker 2: and I happen to have three bottles of aged Woodford Reserve.

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Speaker 2: Oh from the Kentucky Derby. Hello from like one from

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Speaker 2: a Derby gone by twenty three years ago, and like

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Speaker 2: a deal for some Champions Club seats and I ain't

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Speaker 2: going by myself, So you're excited for that?

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm throwing a bottle of Yamasaki twelve year

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Speaker 4: and we'll call it today.

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Speaker 1: I'm Asaki. Watch your language in front of the ladies punk.

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Speaker 1: Come on? Do I need to bump that? Do I

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Speaker 1: need to dump that comment there?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I'm Asaki twelve ye SOFTI doesn't join until tomorrow. It's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yea, I'm a Suckia twelve yea, I'm a suckys

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Speaker 4: Well they have an eighteen year as well, but the

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Speaker 1: What happened to your GPS on overtime last night in Columbus?

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Speaker 1: And good morning? Yeah, good morning, fun game? You take

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Speaker 4: We took Ohio State to double overtime last year and

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Speaker 4: unfortunately lost. They just didn't have the depth on the stretch.

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Speaker 4: We've talked about it on this show. They only play

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Speaker 4: seven guys, they'd prefer to play five guys, and Kate

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Speaker 4: Tyson fouls out and overtime, and when that happens, you

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Speaker 4: just don't have the offensive process that you wish you

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Speaker 4: If you can win the possession battles, limit the turnovers,

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Speaker 2: We we and the Love Covenant the nine to noon

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Speaker 4: You got number seven Nebraska coming into your homes, Freddy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And they wish you'd done that before Perry's transferred.

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Speaker 1: Is that where he went? No where to go, Koy Perrich.

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Speaker 4: Throughout a season, it only gets tougher and tougher. So

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Speaker 4: you gotta find ways to protect home court. That's something

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Speaker 4: I've always preached throughout my time. If you can protect

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Speaker 4: Tough losses, tight losses, you're at least in the game.

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Speaker 4: I know there's no moral victory, but you got to

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Speaker 2: Freddie Hoiberg and his seventh throwing Huskers like you said

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Speaker 4: sindor Yeah, exactly right, talk of the AAU circuit exelt.

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Speaker 4: But no, they just have awesome pieces. And you know Hoiberg,

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Speaker 4: he's been here in Minnesota. He's famous around these parts.

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Speaker 4: He's an excellent coach. We were talking about this morning.

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Speaker 4: Not a lot of success. Seven wins in his first season,

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Speaker 4: it's his son Sam, Yeah, the senior who has come

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Speaker 1: He's playing for his dad.

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Speaker 2: The Hoiberg single handedly ruined my son Derek Allen's youthful

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Speaker 1: And I think he ended up in Michigan State. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Derek, you know, we're fourth fifth gradeish, we're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Jackson played at Michigan State, right he did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was migrade as well, so we would play

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Speaker 1: He's a pest. He's one of those guys.

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Speaker 4: Where you just hate playing and Sam because every pass

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Speaker 4: He's been calling the Husker women's basketball games as the

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Speaker 4: he's doing all his school work and nonetheless, but in

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Speaker 1: What do you think it would be like playing for

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Speaker 1: Right, He's still your dad.

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Speaker 4: But I think to your teammates, you have to kind

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Speaker 1: Now, I never got to experience.

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Speaker 4: It'd be fun to kind of hear the perspective of

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Speaker 4: I think he's got to be your coach on the court,

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Speaker 4: of flip that switch. Like I said, But in terms

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Speaker 2: So Fred had arranged for through media relations for Spearfish

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they lost one twenty two eighty three. Oh in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. And like Kawhi didn't play. I

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Speaker 5: Yeah it was. It was a bad night for Freddy.

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Speaker 1: Wow. How you doing all right? Man?

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Speaker 2: Well, anyway, appreciates the tickets and everything. We were in

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Speaker 2: We saw professional dead man sitting Yeah, tough, uncomfortable.

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Speaker 5: So you may have watched the game where is it still? Rhinsdorff?

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Speaker 5: Is it still? What is it?

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Speaker 5: I forget the name of the decision makers with the bills,

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Speaker 1: Which is awful?

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Speaker 5: By the way, because he's going to work with I mean,

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Speaker 2: Breddy Hoiberg one of the kind. Just ever, don't leave

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Speaker 2: Lavelle Neil the Third texting nor do and I bad

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Speaker 2: loss for Wolfs?

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Speaker 1: I do?

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Speaker 4: I think if you want to be a championship caliber team,

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: So you can look on this on paper and say,

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Speaker 4: to finish it off. That's okay, we'll go back home

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Speaker 4: and we'll win these next two and you'll find a solution.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you're going into

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Speaker 4: Utah a team that you should beat by fifteen to

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Speaker 1: Incorrect, You don't agree with that?

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Speaker 2: Huh No, No, not, I mean because NBA is not

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, anybody can beat anybody. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: that you should lose the game. And they were twelve

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Speaker 2: But as we discussed yesterday with Chris Finch, Keyante George

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Speaker 2: nobody talks about him. Why because he's mired with charts

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Speaker 2: this man Ace Bailey skilled?

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Speaker 2: Way, when a'st Bailey, like, I don't know how old

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Speaker 2: I mean he's rail thin. First time I've really watched

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Speaker 4: Yeah, played against him lastyear at Rutgers. I was sharing

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Speaker 1: So I was like, Oh, it's gonna be it's gonna.

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Speaker 3: Be a long night.

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Speaker 2: Guarded players do yeah, exactly. Walter Clayton, you can't find

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Speaker 1: And no he is he he was non existent, played

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Speaker 4: But I love the wheel what you're saying, and I

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Speaker 1: We can steal one here. And I think you're right.

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Speaker 4: You look at a guy in Keyante George, you wouldn't

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Speaker 4: NBA closely.

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Speaker 1: He's eighteenth in the NBA scoring.

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Speaker 2: He gets to the line a million times a game

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Speaker 2: he is, which is the separator.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's exactly right.

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Speaker 5: Wouldn't you be kind of frustrated though, on a night

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Speaker 5: where it's like, okay, Keyante young budding he had I

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Speaker 1: Thee Mahollick, who knew, come on, it's.

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Speaker 4: My guy, Makay Luke's Yeah, we were at the same

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Speaker 5: Like, I mean, you can't have everybody go off? So

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Speaker 5: it's like, I get where you're where you're going with this.

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Speaker 5: Totally agreed in some respects, but it's like you lose

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Speaker 5: three in a row. This was the slumpbuster after the tough,

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Speaker 1: Everybody with a pulse.

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Speaker 5: On that team went off last night, it felt like

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Speaker 2: That was that was ugly, not arguing Utah has I

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Speaker 2: well the one he missed was at Utah and they

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Speaker 1: So hopefully this one doesn't come back to bite them

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Pea Fox.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you just look at the bench production too, and

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Speaker 1: If you ever heard of it?

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Speaker 4: Come on, that's a Cody Williams is out of Colorado

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Speaker 1: I loved his minutes.

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Speaker 4: He was probably a little bit more excited playing his

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Speaker 4: I just didn't love the effort. I watched the whole game.

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Speaker 4: I just didn't love the effort from start to finish.

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Speaker 4: You gave up one twenty seven. That's not that's just

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Speaker 1: What a game. But I watched him, I mean the defense.

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Speaker 2: In the fourth quarter, they gave up forty three points

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Speaker 2: like they weren't getting in front of people. And I

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Speaker 2: mean Nurkic sixteen points, eighteen rebounds, ten assists. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: he channeled his inner joker last night. But Nurkic is gifted, yes,

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Speaker 2: and he's the rebounder right right, but he's not you know,

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Speaker 2: he's a veteran, but he's not like super old. Near

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Speaker 2: the end of his career, he's had injuries and stuff.

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Speaker 2: But Nurkic, I believe, was with the Denver Nuggets and

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Speaker 2: then they drafted Joker and they're like, hey, these guys

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Speaker 2: play the same. So the Nurkics, they they moved him

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Speaker 2: off to Portland.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Then he was like battling injuries and everything, so, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and then the Suns and then he was with Charlotte.

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Speaker 5: He's kind of become just kind of big guy gun

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Speaker 5: for higher part of his career.

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Speaker 2: Now, the New York Knickerbockers have lost I think nine

455
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Speaker 2: of eleven. Yeah, and reports are they've become bored with

456
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Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe they want to trade him now, those

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Speaker 1: are reports.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a lot of them, got a lot

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Speaker 2: of sources, you know, sources here, sources there. It's like

461
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Speaker 2: nobody's like. An associate to owner Jane Dolan has confirmed

462
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Speaker 2: to the New York Post that Karl Anthony Towns is

463
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Speaker 2: tradable and Memphis and Orlando, and a bunch of other

464
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Speaker 2: teams are calling. Man, they get when things are bad

465
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Speaker 2: with like I mean, I guess it's all the New

466
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Speaker 2: York pro teams, maybe all the college teams. Man, it

467
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Speaker 2: gets loud in New York when things go the wrong

468
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Speaker 2: way with the Knicks and the Giants and the Yankees.

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Speaker 4: Damn, welcome to the spotlight, right, welcome to Welcome to

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Speaker 4: the moment.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the spotlight, young man. Exactly right.

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Speaker 4: But the Knicks have been so terrible defensively, Pa, They've

473
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Speaker 4: been one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA

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Speaker 4: over that stretch.

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Speaker 2: And you know, TIBs, you know this. Why did they

476
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Speaker 2: get bored of tips? I don't understand how the conference finals.

477
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Speaker 2: I don't understand that one either. It doesn't make sense

478
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Speaker 2: to me what they're doing in New York.

479
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Speaker 4: And now you look at you're finding a scapegoat, right,

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Speaker 4: And if that happens to be Carlon Towns, it happens

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Speaker 4: to be somebody. But this is the this is the

482
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Speaker 4: life we live in here where the spotlight's extra bright

483
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Speaker 4: in New York, and you gotta find somebody to put

484
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Speaker 4: the black and granted, yeah, Carl hasn't been the player

485
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Speaker 4: that he needs to be for this team.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brunston last year he was, Oh, he was excellent

487
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Speaker 2: last year. Bomb last year he was Actually everybody's like,

488
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Speaker 2: we got done on the trade. Yeah, nah, we won

489
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Speaker 2: that trade. I agree Randall for half the price Evincenzo,

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Speaker 2: and I think we got a first out of it too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That there has to be somebody to blame it. And

493
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Speaker 4: they're putting it on Carl, which is too bad. But

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Speaker 4: ain't putting it on Brunson. No, put it on Buns.

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Speaker 2: And Jalen Brunson is a dog show father, Rick and

496
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Speaker 2: assistant on the staff would whoop anybody's ass anytime. That right,

497
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Speaker 2: Rick Brunson man when he played, he was tough. This

498
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Speaker 2: is self destruction though.

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Speaker 5: I mean whether you guys were just talking about Hoiberg

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Speaker 5: and you mentioned Parker, you said he he started out.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was abysmal right in Nebraska, but.

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Speaker 5: With patience and time and growth, now he's finding his

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Speaker 5: squad as a top ten operation. Now pro sports we

504
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Speaker 5: have less patients. We just saw ten coaches fired or

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Speaker 5: ten openings, I should say. And you hit it, Pa,

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Speaker 5: I think it was you that said like forty six coaches,

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Speaker 5: or that there was something just the turnover when it

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Speaker 5: comes to coaches and regimes, the lack of patients. If

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Speaker 5: they were going to shop Carl, I would have thought

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Speaker 5: Tibbs would have gotten board with them, you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean, where there would have been some sort of outburst.

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Speaker 5: There's the emotional superstar versus the gruff head coach. Tibbs

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Speaker 5: loved him, Tibbs figured out how to use him at

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Speaker 5: a high level. They've gone they went to the playoffs

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Speaker 5: I think four out of the five years that Tibbs

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Speaker 5: was there. To now have him as the scapegoat is

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Speaker 5: ridiculous and it's only going to set the Knicks back.

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Speaker 5: I mean, as hungry as they are for a title,

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Speaker 5: the lack of patients is going to prove to be

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Speaker 5: disastrous for him.

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Speaker 4: It's almost mind boggling to think this is a team

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Speaker 4: that won the NBA Cup about a month ago, a

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Speaker 4: month and a half ago.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's the problem. It could be put all their

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Speaker 2: energy into winning the wrong championship.

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Speaker 4: Cop and they've won two of their last eleven and

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Speaker 4: they go, yeah, right, they were fired out to win.

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Speaker 1: They've been diseased. You're exactly right.

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Speaker 4: I think they might have just been too excited to

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Speaker 4: finally win something in New York.

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Speaker 5: But they hang that banner next two years. That's problem

532
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Speaker 5: the issue. They got a little too excited about it.

533
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's what the players meeting was. Jalen Brunts

534
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 5: was like, we're taking that banner down. We can't have

535
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Speaker 5: this thing hanging up here. But it's been interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I messed up the clock already.

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Speaker 2: Give me your best fifteen seconds on Patriots at Denver.

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Speaker 1: Who wins? And why? Yep?

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Speaker 4: At Patriots it's easy to meet. Quarterback plays the most

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Speaker 4: important thing in the play season. It's an easy win

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Speaker 4: for the Patriots. I think they win by two scores.

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Speaker 4: Nice Yep, Rams and Seahawks. Rams are my pick from

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Speaker 4: the jump. I so you like both the road teams.

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Speaker 4: I like the most important game of the year. I

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Speaker 4: like both the road teams. That was the hard one

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Speaker 4: for me. Two close games in the regular season, one

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Speaker 4: point victory and a two point victory. But I picked

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Speaker 4: the Rams from the jump and I got I got

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Speaker 4: the Rams winning at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, understandable in a game.

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Speaker 2: Where home field advantage means so much. He's taking the

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Speaker 2: road teams will be damned. Come on, when do you

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Speaker 2: like it? When do you leave for Milan? Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: don't leave.

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Speaker 4: Taylor leaves next Thursday, and I don't leave till February ninth.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we got some time together.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: All right, so let's see two.

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Speaker 1: Three, four.

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Speaker 2: So it's like four five or six o'clock in Milan

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Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, yeah, which means you're gonna be getting

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Speaker 2: some calls from nine to now. Come on, man, are

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Speaker 2: you going to go to the to the USA Men's

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Speaker 2: Hockey Games?

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Speaker 1: Also? Yeah, we're working They're a little expensive, so we're

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Speaker 1: working out roll.

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Speaker 2: Your fiance is going to steal the show in worldly

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Speaker 2: fashion in the Olympics for the Red, White, and Blue.

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Speaker 2: We hope you should be able to get a couple

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Speaker 2: in the upper deck.

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Speaker 1: I know that's what I'm hopeing too. I can we

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Speaker 1: get some cop tickets here? About that up?

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Speaker 4: Jack Eichel, No, I'm hoping to get over to some events.

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Speaker 4: It's all dispersed throughout Italy, so it's gonna be tough

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Speaker 4: to like do the skiing and stuff.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna be in my hockey mode, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So so let's do some Covenant check ins from Milan.

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Speaker 1: If you get the opportunity with all right.

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Speaker 2: All right, have a good day, brother, I'll love you,

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Speaker 2: New England Patriots, joins thirty minutes from now and New

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, down the street is the Regressive Boat Show.

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Speaker 2: There they have displays of the Titanic and the boat

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Speaker 1: I always love that one at the Regressive Boat Show.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to hit two things over the next few

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Speaker 5: minutes here, Vike spits. I'm going to hit the purple

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Speaker 5: momentarily with Derek Sheldon, new Twins manager. He's going to

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Speaker 5: be in studio at eleven. I would love to potentially

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Speaker 5: get a few talkbacks from listeners. Twins fans, baseball fans

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Speaker 5: season around the corner, good times, bad times. We get

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Speaker 5: all of that, but the opportunity for me maybe to

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Speaker 5: fire off some talkbacks from you, the listener as he

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Speaker 5: jumps in studio at eleven, big questions for the new manager.

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Speaker 1: Well, free iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 5: Shello eleven quite possible.

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Speaker 1: Rethought it a little bit after a saying of the

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Speaker 1: set list.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I should have asked you before I said that

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Speaker 2: that's okay. That technically comes back to my bad speaking

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Speaker 2: of talkbacks. About forty five minutes from now, we have

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Speaker 2: a Hodgepodge ten twenty. I do want to put this

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Speaker 2: in front of people right now, and with the free

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Speaker 2: iHeart Audio app, you can leave that talkback. You know

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Speaker 2: how to do it, and we'll set them up like

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Speaker 2: this with the Minnesota Twins and the Timberwolves. Yeah, how

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Speaker 2: close excuse me the wild in the Timberwolves? How close

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Speaker 2: are the wild being considered a legit Stanley Cup candidate?

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Speaker 2: And how tough was that Wolves game for you last night?

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Speaker 2: How good are the wild? And what do you like

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Speaker 2: or loathe about the timber Wolves? I have reasons for

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Speaker 2: putting one of these talkbacks in there and we will

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Speaker 2: share those in the ten o'clock hour.

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Speaker 5: Well, I totally dig all that. Let me hit you

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Speaker 5: with this, Derante Jones. It's been hoarded that the Packers

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Speaker 5: have requested a chance.

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Speaker 1: To interview Dorante.

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Speaker 5: That's nice, say it ain't so, and that's kind of

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Speaker 5: We're gonna go down the line.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna hear more.

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Speaker 5: Inside steam and in bits and opinning, opinions and opining

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Speaker 5: from Florio around the corner. But that's a nugget there,

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Speaker 5: Deronte Jones potentially interviewing for the Packers defensive.

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Speaker 1: Coordinator spot Floraz.

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Speaker 5: Brian Flores did his interview with the Steelers yesterday. They

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Speaker 5: announced the completion of it as is in vogue. Now

656
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Speaker 5: there's a social media post, so they get schefter to

657
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Speaker 5: say our interview with Brian Flores has been completed. Interesting though,

658
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Speaker 5: as Mike McCarthy, former Packers coach former Cowboys coach, has

659
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Speaker 5: a meeting with them today, so maybe that's something to watch.

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Speaker 5: And I've also maybe this is a question. That's that's

661
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Speaker 5: the thing is Don's grandson, Chremuler. He's not just the

662
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Speaker 5: Rams defensive coordinator, but well known McVey Tree acolyte as

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Speaker 5: he is, he is heavily favored to be the next

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Speaker 5: coach for the Steelers or the Steelers, So that may

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Speaker 5: be means Flores is going to be back in Purple,

666
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Speaker 5: and we'd love to have him. No charges being filed

667
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Speaker 5: against Jordan Addison that misdemeanor trespassing bit at the hard Rock.

668
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Speaker 5: He was asked to leave, he didn't, He got arrested,

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Speaker 5: but the state attorney not following through with charges in

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Speaker 5: Addison's own lawyer maybe moving forward with a civil suit

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Speaker 5: alleging of false arrest.

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Speaker 1: So I guess watch that.

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Speaker 5: I did have some Kyle Rudolph audio that we don't

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Speaker 5: have time to play now.

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Speaker 1: I might hit that later on in the ten What's

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Speaker 1: Up with Rudolph?

677
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Speaker 5: Al Rudy was on up and at it with Kay Adams,

678
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Speaker 5: and he was just kind of giving his perspective on

679
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Speaker 5: maybe where the Purple aired in twenty twenty five as

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Speaker 5: it relates to the QB spot and moving forward. He

681
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Speaker 5: even offered up a name of somebody maybe that comes

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Speaker 5: in and elevates that QB.

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Speaker 1: Room in twenty six.

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Speaker 2: We have to have that at ten twenty I had

685
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Speaker 2: no idea that took place.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I could throw that in there, absolutely so. But

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Speaker 5: other than that, that's some vikes bites. Raheem Morris being

688
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Speaker 5: bandied about as a name. Maybe we talk about that

689
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Speaker 5: at ten twenty. There's some actions the six degrees of

690
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Speaker 5: Ko and McVay, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh hired Mike McDaniel. That's not a bad hire

692
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Speaker 2: for the chargeow, that's not a bad hire at all.

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Speaker 2: And we'll continue this conversation throughout nine to know p

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Speaker 2: F t A.

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Speaker 1: You know we is next.

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Speaker 6: Father of mine, teller, Where have you been close my

697
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Speaker 6: father of.

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Speaker 1: The day. Yeah, well, I'll still you're going hardcore football.

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Speaker 2: Mike Florio is the creator of Pro football Talk dot Com,

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Speaker 2: our favorite pro football.

701
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Speaker 1: Website, pro football Talk dot Com.

702
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: He's also part of NBC's Football Night in America and

703
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Speaker 2: the author of a book called Big Shield. Big Shield,

704
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Speaker 2: a book about pro football and gambling. And Mike Florio

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Speaker 2: joins us. Now, speaking of gambling, how about that point

706
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Speaker 2: shaving bit that emerged in college basketball prosecutors This is

707
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Speaker 2: a little old, but we haven't chatted with you since,

708
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Speaker 2: and you're smart about this stuff. Prosecutors allege the scheme

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Speaker 2: targeted more than twenty nine games involved more than thirty

710
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Speaker 2: nine players across at least seventeen NCAA Division I programs

711
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Speaker 2: expanded from overseas professional leagues into US college basketball as

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Speaker 2: recently as January twenty twenty five. Federal authorities say the

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Speaker 2: FBI's investigation uncovered text messages, social media, direct messages, FaceTime calls,

714
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Speaker 2: and travel arrangements, leaving a substantial digital trail. Good morning, Mike,

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Speaker 2: And what do you think about all that?

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Speaker 7: I'm not surprised by any of it, Paul. Every time

717
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 7: we hear about one of these scandals, I think to myself,

718
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Speaker 7: Number one, when's the next one? And number two, how

719
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Speaker 7: many are out there that we're never going to find

720
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Speaker 7: out about? With so many of the ones that happened.

721
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Speaker 7: When there's an attempt to rig prop bets, we only

722
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Speaker 7: know about it because the people who have the inside

723
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Speaker 7: information decide to be pigs at the trough and they

724
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Speaker 7: engage in betting activities that set up alarms within the

725
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Speaker 7: sports books. If you just don't go crazy with that information,

726
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Speaker 7: if you decide to take it slowly with a stream

727
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Speaker 7: of inside information, over time, no one's even going to

728
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Speaker 7: detect it. So I just think that these isolated incidents

729
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Speaker 7: are evidence that it's much more widespread. Then maybe we know,

730
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Speaker 7: and we'll find out in specific examples here or there.

731
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Speaker 7: It's also normalized now, that's really the key. Beyond legalized

732
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Speaker 7: and clearly monetized by the NFL and other sports leagues,

733
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Speaker 7: it's normalized. People are seeing these ads everywhere. They're on TV,

734
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Speaker 7: they're masquerading as content in pregame shows, and so the

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Speaker 7: players much more easily just to fy crossing the tracks

736
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Speaker 7: and engaging in things that give them a little piece

737
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Speaker 7: of the action too. It's just easier to justify it

738
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Speaker 7: because everybody's betting, and the sports books are making billions

739
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Speaker 7: of dollars off of the bets that lose. My dad

740
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 7: told me, my dad the booky back in the seventies,

741
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Speaker 7: you can't win. There's a book that came out yesterday.

742
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Speaker 7: Everyone loses. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to

743
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 7: read it. It's about the whole sports betting phenomenon. It's

744
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 7: rigged against the betters. This isn't the stock market where

745
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 7: a rising tidealists all boats. Your money goes into their pockets.

746
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Speaker 7: They have billions because they've taken it from you. Through

747
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Speaker 7: all the ways that the system is set up and

748
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 7: all the little ways that's rigged. A dollar at a

749
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Speaker 7: time becomes billions for the sports books, and billions that

750
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Speaker 7: the individuals lose. And I think it's very easy for

751
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 7: the players to now justify doing things that used to

752
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 7: be very, very very rare because they see it everywhere.

753
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 7: It's just part of the fabric of their existence now.

754
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Speaker 7: So that's my take on it, and I expect more

755
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 7: of these issues to come, and eventually there will be

756
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Speaker 7: one that is big enough that sparks a massive change

757
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 7: and a phony cry by the NFL that we had

758
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Speaker 7: no idea this could happen.

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Speaker 2: Dude, do you think it's tougher to fix games in

760
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Speaker 2: a digital age because of the digital trail and things

761
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Speaker 2: like that, Well.

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Speaker 7: I think it's always tough to fix outcomes of games.

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Speaker 7: The more players on the field, the more people involved.

764
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Speaker 7: You know, you do a boxing match, you got one

765
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Speaker 7: person you have to get to. You do a basketball game,

766
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Speaker 7: you got five. You do a football game, you got

767
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Speaker 7: twenty two and the coaching staff and the officials. So

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Speaker 7: rigging a game, I think is a real challenge. The

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Speaker 7: prop bets the crack cocaine of the sports betting industry.

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Speaker 7: Those are the things that need to go away. And

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00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 7: you know, people who are bought and paid for by

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Speaker 7: the sports books get mad when I say that, and

773
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Speaker 7: they say, oh, you pick games. Yeah, we're picking games

774
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Speaker 7: for fun, And I tell you, I tell them all

775
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 7: the time. Don't listen to me. Don't listen to me

776
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 7: if you're gonna go wager your hard earned money. Those

777
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 7: thats allow the gambling types and this is part of

778
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Speaker 7: the storyline of Big Shield to get to specific players

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Speaker 7: and either get information from them or get them to

780
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 7: participate in these situations where somebody is suddenly going to

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00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 7: be injured and exit a game and the under on

782
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 7: their prop bets is going to hit. So yeah, look,

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00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 7: there will be a treasure trove of digital evidence if

784
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 7: somebody actually investigates first, you got to know there's a problem.

785
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 7: And that gets back to my point. Only when someone

786
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 7: who has that information overdoes it in their betting that

787
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 7: it sends up red flags within the sportsbooks and they

788
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Speaker 7: start investigating. That's when they work backward. I suspect there's

789
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Speaker 7: plenty of digital evidence out there if somebody was actually

790
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 7: looking in the right places and looking at the right people,

791
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 7: But there's an entire universe of athletes and programs and coaches,

792
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 7: and where do you even start. You're fishing. So the

793
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 7: first indication that there are fish in the pond is

794
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 7: when someone overdoes it with their betting and someone at Draftking,

795
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 7: Sport of the Fan Duel wherever, they're like, oh wait,

796
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 7: we got a problem here, because all of a sudden

797
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 7: there's a crapload of money coming in on on this

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Speaker 7: guy's under tonight.

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Speaker 2: Right or like like And I read this relatively closely,

800
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Speaker 2: but it was a week ago. Greed brought this group down, right.

801
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Speaker 2: I mean when you start, you know, when you start

802
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Speaker 2: betting fifty dimes on South Carolina State and Kennesas State games,

803
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: I mean, who doesn't think that's going to be on

804
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Speaker 2: somebody's radar?

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00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 7: Well exactly, and that's when they start looking. So, you know,

806
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 7: you scratch an itch, so the itch has to pop up,

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00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 7: and I think the reality is a rash all over

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00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 7: the body of the entire sports industry, But they only

809
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 7: scratch at the spots where that itch is the most

810
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 7: pronounced by somebody doing something that causes someone to say, hey,

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Speaker 7: something weird is going on here.

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Speaker 2: Hey it's and lastly here, I mean, it's the easy

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Speaker 2: way out.

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Speaker 1: What's your majority of people take?

815
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Speaker 2: And so maybe these players thought it would be easy

816
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 2: money and obviously thought they'd never be caught. I wonder

817
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 2: if the Purps were frustrated they didn't get nil money

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00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 2: and others on the team, did you know what I mean?

819
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Speaker 2: I just wonder if there's a name, image and likeness

820
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Speaker 2: money that like factors into what about me?

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I'm going to do this.

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Speaker 7: I think that's a great point, beyond the fact that

823
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 7: the gambling is now so normalized and everybody is getting paid.

824
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 7: The schools have their sponsorship deals, the leagues have their

825
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 7: sponsorship deals, the sports books are making money hand over fist.

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Speaker 7: Now on top of it, the star players have their

827
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Speaker 7: nil deals. I'm gonna get mine. John Tay Porter's brother

828
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Speaker 7: explained at some point last year on a podcast appearance,

829
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Speaker 7: that it's so easy for a guy, you know, the

830
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 7: one guy out of a group of friends who strikes

831
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Speaker 7: it rich by becoming a professional athlete, and his group

832
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Speaker 7: of friends didn't have those same skills, And hey, I

833
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 7: can throw them a bone, I can give them a

834
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 7: little here, I can tell them a little something, and

835
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Speaker 7: they can go make some money, no harm done, no

836
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Speaker 7: victims involved. That's part of it too, And I just

837
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 7: think that that what was overlooked in this whole wild

838
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Speaker 7: West approach to legalizing gambling and having these ads everywhere

839
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Speaker 7: everywhere we look, and an whole generation of kids growing

840
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Speaker 7: up where it's as normal as anything else. It's going

841
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 7: to create incentives, and it's going to create temptations, and

842
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 7: it's going to make it easier for people to say,

843
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 7: you know what, I'm going to go get mine and

844
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Speaker 7: I'm not going to feel bad about it, because everybody's

845
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Speaker 7: getting there is one way or another.

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Speaker 2: Championship game weekend games weekend in the NFL AFC. Does

847
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: winning the next two solidify Sean Payton's place in the

848
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Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 7: I think so because look, without a second Super Bowl win,

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Speaker 7: and specifically without becoming the first coach to ever win

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Speaker 7: Super Bowls with two different franchises, and no one has

852
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 7: ever done that. You had guys like Parcels who won

853
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 7: and gotten back, but no one's ever taken two different

854
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 7: teams to a super Bowl championship. The guy who does

855
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 7: that is the guy who breaks through the current Mike

856
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 7: Holmgren Mike Shanahan. There's a logjam of coaches that can't

857
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 7: get in, and they're always changing the rules and the

858
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 7: voting thresholds, and it's one of the reasons why I'm

859
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 7: very frustrated with the whole Hall of Fame process. They

860
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 7: change the rules all the time. The consistency isn't there.

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00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 7: It's going to be hard for a coach who retires

862
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 7: with one Super Bowl win to get past all the

863
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 7: other guys that are still stuck there, whether they have

864
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 7: one or where they have two, like Mike Shanahan. So

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Speaker 7: you get too with different teams. That's what puts you

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Speaker 7: in that Belichick category, not that it's the same. The

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Speaker 7: Belichick's a no brainer. He's going to jump past everyone

868
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Speaker 7: else who's waiting in line, who maybe already should be in.

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Speaker 7: That's the kind of thing that's going to get Payton in.

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Speaker 2: So so, how does one win this one with Jared

871
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: Skidham at the Helm, Well, I.

872
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 7: Don't think it's impossible. He's been in the program for

873
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 7: three years. Sean Page believes in him, and now Sean

874
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 7: Payton has the card to play with his players all

875
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 7: week long. Nobody believes in us. Look at everything we've accomplished.

876
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 7: No one thinks that this is a twenty two man

877
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 7: starting roster. They think it all rose and fell with

878
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 7: bow Nix. I mean, think about that. Bone Nix was

879
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 7: viewed as a liability to the team. You know that

880
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 7: he's not yet where he's going to be. He could

881
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 7: maybe become Drew Brees at some point, but it's not

882
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 7: like he's out there slinging missiles all over the place

883
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 7: like Peyton Manning or Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady. And

884
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 7: so yeah, you take out Nicks, you put in Stidham,

885
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 7: who was there in Denver longer than Nicks and in theory,

886
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 7: knows how to go out and run the offense the

887
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 7: way Sean Payton wants it to be run to the hell.

888
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 7: Have an opportunity, right because I don't know how much

889
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 7: of a fall off there is. And the benefit that

890
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 7: they pick up from it is we can now have

891
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 7: a legitimate and true and authentic no one believes in

892
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 7: us moment that can fuel a team to win a game.

893
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 7: Maybe they weren't supposed to.

894
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Speaker 2: Win NFC Mike Florioprofootballtalk dot Com p FT Sunday marks

895
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Speaker 2: the fifth road trip in six weeks. For the Rams

896
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: seventh time in the last nine weeks. They played away

897
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: from home. But no big deal, right, given so many

898
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: road fans infiltrate so far.

899
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think it's an issue at all. I

900
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 7: think they're well suited to playing on the road. You

901
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 7: look at what they did in that game in Seattle

902
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 7: Week sixteen. They had five hundred andy one yards of offense,

903
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 7: They were up thirty to fourteen in the fourth quarter,

904
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 7: they just fell apart. They had the punt return that

905
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 7: got Chase Blackburn, the special teams coordinator fired, because that

906
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 7: started at all. That moved everything in the direction of

907
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 7: the Rams and or the Seahawks. Excuse me, the Rams

908
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 7: suddenly stopped functioning on offense after that until they drove

909
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 7: down the field at the start of overtime to score

910
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 7: a touchdown. And other than that, the Rams win that game.

911
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 7: So they're capable of going up there and winning that game.

912
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 7: And yes, the Seahawks was pretty damn good in their

913
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 7: playoff went over the forty nine ers, winning forty one

914
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 7: to six, and their defense looked incredible in the thirteen

915
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 7: to three loss to end the regular season. They seem

916
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 7: to be far better than they were when they gave

917
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 7: up five hundred and eighty one yards.

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Speaker 1: To the Rams.

919
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Speaker 7: But it wasn't all that long ago that they gave

920
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 7: up on the same field where they're going to be

921
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 7: playing on Sunday, five hundred and eighty one yards to

922
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Speaker 7: the La Rams.

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Speaker 2: Mike Florio PF team PFT. You know we and with

924
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Speaker 2: the head coaching opportunities, man, that was quick for Jeff

925
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Speaker 2: Afflee decoordinator for a couple of years with Green Bay

926
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: and Boom head coach of the Miami Dolphins.

927
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Speaker 1: That's a tricky job down there, isn't it.

928
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 7: Well, it's always tricky because look, this function in any

929
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 7: NFL team that has a history of it comes from

930
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Speaker 7: the top. And you've got an owner who doesn't live

931
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 7: in Miami, he's not in the building on a regular basis.

932
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 7: You'll have different people with different agendas, different fights. There's

933
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 7: no one there to really resolve it the right way.

934
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Speaker 7: And now that you take a couple of packers got

935
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Speaker 7: in John Eric Sullivan and Jeff Halfley, and ideally they

936
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 7: work together, they cooperate, they try to address the issues

937
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 7: that the team has had in the past. They're gonna

938
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 7: have a ninety nine million dollar cap burden on the

939
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 7: back end of the Tua tongue by Lowa contract that

940
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 7: they have to deal with. But you know, Halfley made

941
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 7: the ultimate bet on himself, leaving Boston College's head coach

942
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 7: during the earlier years of the college football chaos, rolling

943
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 7: the dice on a defensive coordinator job in the NFL,

944
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 7: and two years later here he is head coach of

945
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 7: the Miami Dolphins. So we'll see what happens. I'm surprised

946
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 7: that neither the Dolphins nor the Titans pressed paws on

947
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,959
Speaker 7: their searches once Sean McDermott became available, because I'll take

948
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 7: a proven winner who's gone to seven straight playoffs. But

949
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 7: at least Halfley has been a head coach. You know,

950
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 7: so far, we haven't seen a first time head coach

951
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 7: hired in this cycle, and there may not be many

952
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 7: of them because teams are looking for guys who have

953
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 7: shown they can do it. When you hire someone who's

954
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 7: never been a head coach before, you're taking the chance

955
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 7: that he just doesn't have the skill set, because it's

956
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 7: a very different skill set to go from x's and

957
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 7: o's to running a full team.

958
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: Does anybody want to coach Arizona or Las Vegas. I mean,

959
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: I know we have second interviews at least with Arizona, Like,

960
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: does anybody really want to coach those teams?

961
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 7: Well, you'll hear people say from time to time that

962
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 7: there's only thirty two of these jobs, and that's true,

963
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 7: but one of them's in Arizona and one of them

964
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 7: is in Cleveland. And what you're doing, especially if you

965
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 7: have head coaching experience, if you had a head coaching

966
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 7: job that didn't go well and you rebound with a

967
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 7: team that you possibly won't be the head coach at

968
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 7: for very long. It's the Eric Mangini, it's the Adam Gase.

969
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 7: After that second one, you're never heard from again. So

970
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 7: making the right decision the second time around is critical.

971
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 7: I don't think Robert Solid takes the job in Tennessee

972
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 7: unless he firmly believes it's going to be a much

973
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 7: different outcome for him than it was with the Jets,

974
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 7: where it never really got off the ground, no pun intended.

975
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 7: He never had a quarterback, he only had access to

976
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers for four plays one season and five games

977
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 7: of another, and he got fired after Week five. So

978
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 7: I think he sees cam Ward and what he can

979
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 7: be a lot of cap space, new stadium. He sees

980
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 7: an opportunity, But I don't see that same opportunity with

981
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 7: the Cardinals, who have never had Paul. They've been around

982
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 7: for over one hundred years, They've never had a head

983
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 7: coach for more than six years. Wow, no one has

984
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 7: made it more than six years and the two here's

985
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 7: your trivia answer and press your friends and family or

986
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 7: strangers who care. Jim Hannifon and Ken wizen Hunt made

987
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 7: it six years.

988
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: Wow.

989
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 7: Nobody else has made it six and no one has

990
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 7: made it longer. Bruce Arians lasted five.

991
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's brilliant. With Robert Sala and that Titans job,

992
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe five year deals are the norm

993
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: these days for like second second time coaches. Five years,

994
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: I mean five years. That's aggressive, don't you think.

995
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 7: Well, that's what dysfunctional teams have to do to get

996
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 7: someone who may have options to take the job. Halfley

997
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 7: got a five year deal. When the forty nine ers

998
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 7: hired Kyle Shannan. I think he got a six year

999
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 7: deal because they had gone Jim Harbaugh, Jim tomsull A,

1000
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 7: Chip Kelly. It was so bad you had the owners

1001
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 7: sitting up there explaining why you can't fire the owners. Hey,

1002
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 7: you know what, you just can't do it. In some

1003
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 7: cities that would be the best way to turn things

1004
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 7: around is to find a way to get rid of

1005
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 7: the owner based upon incomfidence. But you know, Paul, I

1006
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 7: say this all the time. You got to pass two

1007
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 7: tests to drive a car. You got to pass zero

1008
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 7: tests to own an NFL team. You just have to

1009
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 7: either show up with the biggest bag of money or

1010
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 7: have your name in the will.

1011
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: That's it.

1012
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 7: That's the only qualification. You don't even need to know

1013
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 7: a thing about football. So you get these teams that

1014
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 7: have owners that just keep spinning their wheels, and it

1015
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 7: puts the coaches who they're going to hire in position

1016
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 7: to say, I don't want a four year deal. I

1017
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 7: want a five year deal. I want a six year deal.

1018
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 7: And you proved the world by paying that extra money

1019
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 7: and making that extra commitment that we're going to stick

1020
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 7: with this guy a little bit longer. The buyout may

1021
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 7: save And how I think the buyout saved Aaron Glenn

1022
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 7: this year in New York. And we all know the

1023
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 7: buyouts save Zach Taylor in Cincinnati there'd be a clean

1024
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 7: sweep in the AFA North if Mike Brown was willing

1025
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 7: to pay the remainder of Zach Taylor's contract.

1026
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: Buy out terrorism. I forgot about that all right. Lastly,

1027
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: a minute and forty seconds, you get it off. Two

1028
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 2: interviews Now for Flores in Pittsburgh. What do you think

1029
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: happens next there?

1030
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 7: Well, he's under consideration with the Ravens and the Steelers

1031
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 7: and the coordinator's job with the Commanders. I believe at

1032
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 7: the end of the day that Brian Flores will be

1033
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 7: back with the Vikings as defensive cornat That's what I believe.

1034
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 7: I don't know it, but reading the tea leaves, knowing

1035
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 7: the things that have been reported, the other stuff that

1036
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 7: is out there that you hear about on the grapevine,

1037
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 7: and you know, these teams are going to do a

1038
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 7: deep dive. They're gonna look at what happened in Miami.

1039
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 7: They're gonna look at what happened in Pittsburgh during his

1040
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 7: one year there. They're gonna look at his time in Minnesota.

1041
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 7: The thing that he has in his favor in Pittsburgh,

1042
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 7: they loved him during the one year he was there.

1043
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 7: They loved him and that's the kind of hard nosed

1044
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 7: defense style they like. Now. I'll say this, even though

1045
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 7: the Steelers have gone defensive coordinator with their last three

1046
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 7: hires dating back to the first Nixon administration in nineteen

1047
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 7: sixty nine, Chuck Nobill, Kauer, Mike Tomlin all defensive coordinators,

1048
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 7: they understand that in the nineteen years since they hired

1049
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 7: Mike Tomlin, the game has changed. It's offensive now, it's

1050
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 7: player safety now. And they may decide we got to

1051
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 7: go with an offensive coach this time around. But the

1052
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 7: formula that has been very successful, and I'll submit to

1053
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 7: you that with each successful head coaching higher in Pittsburgh

1054
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 7: that lasts at least fifteen years, it's gone twenty three years,

1055
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 7: fifteen years, nineteen years, you put more pressure on yourself

1056
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 7: to get it right. So I think Floria is going

1057
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 7: to get serious consideration in Pittsburgh. I don't think he's

1058
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 7: gonna get serious consideration in Baltimore. He will in Pittsburgh,

1059
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 7: and we'll see whether or not the Steelers are comfortable

1060
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 7: making that move. They're gonna have a lot of options.

1061
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 7: The problem is having a lot of options, you eventually

1062
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 7: got to pick one. It's like being at the cheesecake

1063
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 7: factory and flipping through that phone book menu. A lot

1064
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 7: of stuff looks good. You got to ultimately pick.

1065
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 2: One brilliant Call you next way, Mike Florio p f T. Yeah,

1066
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,479
Speaker 2: you know, we we have a joining us next calls

1067
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: Patriots games, and of the Patriots play this weekend against

1068
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 2: the Broncos in the AFC Championship Game.

1069
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Speaker 1: A Bob socius now