1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: And just in case you missed it, it's the top 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: five spoce Tagers of the day. Now it's time for 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: Dan Barrero's Top five and five brought to you by 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Gutter Helmet of Minnesota never clean your gutters again. Learn 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: more at gutter Helmet mnt dot com. 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: All right, guardsy out today, I'm out tomorrow. I think 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: he's back, and then he's out Thursday, Friday. Right, you're 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: on with me? So I'm on Friday through the rest 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: of the week, exactly right? Where would you like to 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: start Today's top everwhere? 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: Else? 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: Time? Now for the obligatory Kevin Fallness Minnesota wild mention. 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 4: Does that get used that I'm gone? Probably not? No, 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 4: it's guards. He doesn't care guards, he doesn't care. Anything 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 4: he can do to annoy Fallness, he's gonna do it, 16 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 4: so he's less likely than you to use it. Fair 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 4: enough the while they get the lightning to uh, pretty 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 4: good squads the lightning. 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 5: No pushovers. Here's the re cap four. 20 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 4: The injury report as it stands, now Fellino the Moose 21 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 4: considered week to week. It's not season ending, but he's 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 4: seeing another doctor that via Joe Smith Brodein expected to 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 4: play tonight. We're happy about that. Gust Bus is in 24 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 4: net for your while. That's a late one. You'll hear 25 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 4: it right here in the fan. Eight thirty two is 26 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 4: the puck drop? Well, you want to be on National 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 4: TV or not? 28 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, But then I'm gonna get sleep shamed 29 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: because I'll probably have their teeth in the glass by 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: ten fifteen. 31 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, so there you go. Whatever. 32 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 4: By the way, the one going back to this, the 33 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 4: girl in Vegas that's thirty eight, that's getting sleep shamee. Yeah, 34 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: her friends need to grow up. You're thirty eight years old? Yeah, 35 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: I want to go to bed. I'm twenty nine? 36 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 5: Is it because she lives in Vegas? 37 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: And the assumption is that you have to be on 38 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: a different schedule or there's no point in living in Vegas. 39 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 5: I don't know, not a great Vegas. 40 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: Mind at this point, but many years since I have 41 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: traveled there. 42 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 4: Also, if you're wondering the Lions Hartman caprisov Zook, you 43 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 4: see the normal second line of ec Boldy Johansson and 44 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 4: then you've got Fabric make in his debut and the 45 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: feel about that, I. 46 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: Mean, Louis seemed to like it, okay, but he does. 47 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: There's a couple of people texting who think it might 48 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: change It's a sneaky move that might change everything. 49 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 5: How do you view it? 50 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 4: I'm whelmed, That's how I described it. I'm not overwhelmed, 51 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 4: not underwhelmed. It's it's fine, he's gonna play with Sturm 52 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 4: and Heinestro nothing to lose. 53 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: And throwing out there, thrown out there, see what happens exactly. Okay, 54 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: And you said Gus bust in the net. 55 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 4: Right, That's what I'm seeing. Okay, so we got that 56 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 4: going thrush. You'll hear right here on the fan. What 57 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 4: you'll hear on the Timberwolves channel is the Timberwolves taking 58 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 4: on the Grizz tonight at home. 59 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 5: That's at seven. 60 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: But some late breaking injury news is they updated the 61 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 4: injury report. This was about fifteen twenty minutes ago. Ant 62 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 4: is now questionable with listed as right foot injury maintenance 63 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 4: for tonight. 64 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 5: Well, I don't know what that means. 65 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: I think that that's the foot that he's had a 66 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: kind of a chronic issue with. I'm pretty sure I 67 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 2: think that's what it is. Who we're playing the Grizz correct, Yes, 68 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: they're not very I don't think I'm in fact, I'm 69 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: looking them up as we speak here. Hold on one second, 70 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: I thought I had the standings called up. Yeah, twenty 71 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: three and thirty six, they're in the eleventh spot. 72 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 5: I don't even know. 73 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Are they tanking irresponsibly? Do they want to tank? I 74 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: don't even know if they have their pick to tell 75 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: you the. 76 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 5: Truth below can be assumed that you're tank. That's probably true, 77 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 5: sad but true. 78 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: But this, this falls out of the classification. You got 79 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: three games in a row here where he should win 80 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: them all, certainly win two of them. But I think 81 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: you need to pretty much get greedy now. If Edwards 82 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: doesn't play, obviously that that changes some things. 83 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 5: We'll see how they go. 84 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: So questionable always for me feels like fifty to fifty. Yeah, 85 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: And I don't you know, Edwards has missed more games 86 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: this year than I think he's probably missed his entire career. 87 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: And I don't think it's it's load management. I think 88 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: he's just been a little bit more banged up and 89 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: some has kind of caught up to him. We mentioned, 90 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: we confirmed yesterday Julius Randall has not missed a game 91 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: this season. You could say, well, how do you mean 92 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: Dan a few games he played and it appeared that 93 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: he missed them. But he has been very durable. They've 94 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: got a pretty durable club, you know, for the most part. 95 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: You know, for Rudy misses time, it's because he has 96 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 2: won too many flagrants. It's more that than it is injury. 97 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: Jaden ends up usually plays, de Vincenzo plays. They got 98 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: a lot of guys who play a lot, and obviously 99 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: if Edwards is out, not very helpful, but still certainly 100 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: should be able to win even without him. 101 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 5: I would think this is a key game. 102 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 4: It feels like where the Wolves potentially sleepwalk because well 103 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 4: it's a bad team at Rome, yes, you know, and 104 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: it's just it would be classic Wolves. Hopefully they don't 105 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 4: do that tonight. The big story of the day is 106 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray. The Cardinals informed him that they're releasing him 107 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 4: barring a trade before the start of the league year. 108 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 4: I've already seen tweets here, one from Robert Smith, our 109 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 4: new QbH. 110 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 5: Is that what he said? 111 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 4: I think Meat Sauce has tweeted about sixteen times about 112 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: how much he's excited for Kyler to come here. It 113 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 4: seems like it's that's what we're looking for. That's where 114 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 4: we're at. 115 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 5: That's Vikings football. 116 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: I might, you know, and again I I'll admit this, 117 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: I might be too bored with it. There might be 118 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: more there that I'm giving him credit for. I he's 119 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: one of those quarterbacks who's somehow gotten on my bad side. 120 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: And sometimes that's fair, and sometimes it's just you just 121 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: you just do some projecting and you you end up 122 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: making him appear worse than he really is. He doesn't 123 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: excite me. He probably does excite me more than Geno 124 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: Smith would. I'll say that, for whatever that's worth. 125 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 5: I don't know. 126 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: I just I haven't sensed a lot of stability there. 127 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: I'm still not convinced. I know, you know, Seffert said 128 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: he makes a lot of the throws that Koc likes. 129 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: But I also think he's more mobile in a way 130 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: that I'm not sure Koc completely understands Now, he's little. 131 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: Obviously you don't want him getting killed, you know, you'd 132 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: have to be smart about it. But I hope it 133 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: doesn't come down to that. But you know, my obviously 134 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: every day goes by and makes it feel like the 135 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers dream that I have is disappearing. I still think, 136 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: as I said earlier, and maybe here's what we'll do. 137 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 2: We got a guest at five thirty, So there is 138 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: another Viking story definitely worth covering that we got into 139 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: during the first hour that it's not quarterback related, that 140 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: I don't really think makes this organization look very good 141 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: at this point, even if what is being done or 142 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: being suggested might be done was a necessity on the 143 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: basis of the way things had been mishandled when it 144 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: comes to money, salary cap, etc. But the Murray story 145 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 2: is definitely worth discussing because he's now going to be 146 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 2: available next week. That's basically all but official at this point, 147 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 2: and you're gonna be able to get him, probably cheap, 148 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: We're gonna be able to get him on a decent contract, 149 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 2: and he has started games in the National Football League. 150 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: I do think he's viewed as good enough when he 151 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: has played or established enough that if you sign him, 152 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: he's going to start, and I don't think there could 153 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: be much pretense about that no matter what takes place 154 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: in training camp. To me, it's you're bringing him, You're 155 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: not going to bring him into I be shocked if 156 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: they're bringing him in to compete for the job, so 157 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: we'll see. The good news is I think we're gonna 158 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: we're gonna have a lot of this result pretty quickly. 159 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: I really do think throughout the next two or three weeks, 160 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: I I think we're going to know exactly what they 161 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: have in mind at the quarterback position. 162 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 4: He may not be available lot. If it were me, 163 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 4: i'd move heaven and Earth to get Burrow and after that. 164 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: Well right, yeah, that's but that might not even be 165 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: a possibility. 166 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 5: It probably isn't. 167 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: Well who's who's the who is the defensive uh sack 168 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: specialist that that the Bengals have? What's his hendrickson? Yeah, 169 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: he said, I think the decision has been made. They're 170 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: not franchising him. 171 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 5: Yes, thank he's on his way out. 172 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: That came up in a couple of texts, like, all right, well, 173 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: maybe that's something that we're going to try to sniff around. 174 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 5: I have absolutely no idea. 175 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: That would be, of course, enormous money and again we're 176 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: way over the cap, which we'll discuss in more depth 177 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: next segment. As it pertains to another player who he 178 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: thought was a pretty important part of this. 179 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 4: Team, what was your favorite Drew Dolman moments for your 180 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 4: Chicago Bears. Yeah, he's two years younger than me and 181 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: he's calling it a career. I can only imagine it's 182 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 4: how I haven't read his reasoning behind it. I can 183 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 4: only imagine it's health related. Which thinks you're on the 184 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 4: old line, you're a center. You're probably getting their big 185 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 4: acquisition at this last season he signed last year, he 186 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 4: signed a three year, forty two million dollars deal with 187 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 4: the Bears. He was a big reason why that old 188 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 4: line was so good as much improved. 189 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 5: And there he goes. 190 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 4: So Drew dolmend retiring at twenty seven five seasons in 191 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 4: the NFL, and that's a big hole for Bears. 192 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: That's a massive hole. And speaking of centers, the Vikings 193 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: don't have one either. Nobody's to believe that we do. 194 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 2: That's another thing that has to be discussed. That doesn't 195 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 2: get as much of attention as the quarterback position. And 196 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: we all know how important it is, the interior part 197 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: of the line. And because of our guys concussion issues 198 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 2: who we just just signed, the Vikings, just like the Bears, 199 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: need to find yet another center. Yet again, that's two 200 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: straight years for both teams. If there's going to be 201 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: significant changes at the center position. I don't think they 202 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 2: grow on trees, So that's going to be a very sneaky, 203 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: crucial move involving this division, the Bears as well. 204 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 5: As the Vikings. 205 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 4: Lastly, I'm not going to make this Atlanta Braves fan line, 206 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 4: but are you familiar with the player Jerks and profar 207 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 4: that his name. 208 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 5: He's thirty three the Brave signed a couple of years ago. 209 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 5: Last year he. 210 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: Got to spend at half the season for Peds and 211 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 4: he just got popped again. The he's facing a one 212 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 4: hundred and sixty two game suspension after positive I am 213 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 4: testing positive. I just, first of all, either the fool one, 214 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: shame on me for me twice. 215 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, how do you get caught twice? I don't know. 216 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 4: How do you get suspended a half year and think 217 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 4: you know what I'm going to do? 218 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 5: Do it? Double down on it? 219 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 4: Last year, he said, quote is because of my deep 220 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 4: love and respect for the game that I would never 221 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 4: knowingly do anything to cheat on it. 222 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 5: And here we are. Yeah yeah, wow. 223 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: Well here's my question. Has there ever been an occasion 224 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: where an entire team has been suspended for one hundred 225 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: and sixty two games because you could argue that we 226 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: wouldn't really be that devastated if that's exactly what happened 227 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: to your favorite baseball team, the Minnesota Twins. By the way, 228 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray was drafted as a baseball player, I think 229 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: by the formerly known as Oakland A's so I think 230 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 2: it was Gleaman mentioned perhaps the Twins can get him 231 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: on the cheap, just as it's expected the Vikings would 232 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: be able to get Kyler Murray on the cheap, and 233 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: we can have him play for both of our local 234 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: teams as well. Let's talk a little bit more Vikings 235 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: when we come back, and then we'll go a section 236 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: some very juicy, controversial stuff playing out in the courthouse 237 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: in the Twin Cities of Minneapolis, and Saint Paul Paul 238 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: Bloom will take us through all of it when he 239 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: joins at five point thirty. 240 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 5: If you want to chine on what's happening with your 241 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 5: favorite KFN show, you can. 242 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 4: It's very easy, and make your voice shart on the 243 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 4: branch on Bryant kfaan text line. 244 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 5: Here's what you do. 245 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 4: You let us know what you have to say by 246 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 4: texting your message to six four six eighty six at 247 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 4: six four six eight six standard text message in data 248 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 4: rate supply. 249 00:12:26,960 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 6: Can started you start? 250 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 5: WHOA? 251 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: I don't realize that ended any of that music. Sorry 252 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: about that emotional right now, let me get some coffee. 253 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: I could use water actually, But update regarding the guest 254 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: lineup might be delayed on getting intrepid Fox nine reporter 255 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: Paul Bloom because I think the case he's been covering 256 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: all day, at least as of the top of the hour, 257 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: was ongoing in a courtroom. And as soon as we 258 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: get more information, will pass it along to you and 259 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: we'll we'll hopefully get him at some point because what 260 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: he's covering is pretty big. Bratchewan and Brian Kafe in 261 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: text line is open at six for six eight six. 262 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: I had one other vikings item I did want to 263 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 2: at least discuss that's not as sexy as the ongoing 264 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: quarterback speculation and the possibility of now the door being 265 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: open to Kyler Murray coming here. And we always assume 266 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: here because we think the whole NFL revolves around us. 267 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: It doesn't, but that's the way we like to think here. 268 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: And there may be some other places that have interested 269 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: in Kyler Murray and are looking for a QB, and 270 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: that might even be willing to spend a little bit 271 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: more money to convince him to go to. 272 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 5: Them as opposed to someplace else. 273 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: But the news broke earlier today that it appears the 274 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: Vikings are having some difficulty we're moving forward with Jonathan Grenard. 275 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: And when I first heard the name, I thought it 276 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: might have been a typo of some sort or a misunderstanding, 277 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: because I everything that I had been led, you know, 278 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: had been told, was that even though his numbers weren't 279 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: as good last year as the year before, Grenard is 280 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: still a guy in his prime. 281 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 5: Look up his age. I think he's like twenty eight. 282 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: And considered an important player in this team, considered a well, 283 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: it's twenty eight years old, and he's due to make 284 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: only nineteen million dollars in each of the next two seasons. 285 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 5: That's thirty eight MILI total. 286 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: I think the cap number might be a little bit 287 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: higher for the upcoming season. But the reporting indicates that 288 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: one or two things is going on here. One is 289 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: the Vikings are just so hopelessly screwed up with the 290 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: cap that unless they can convince him to get on 291 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: a more salary cap friendly deal in terms of the 292 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: yearly outlay against the cap that they might have. 293 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 5: To move them. 294 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: The assumption is that they would want a second round 295 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: choice to move them, because as he is in his prime. 296 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: And on the other hand, is it possible that what 297 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: Grenard's people are saying is, look, I know his numbers 298 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: weren't great last year, but my client is vastly underpriced 299 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: at nineteen mil. Given I think the most expensive edge 300 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: rusher isn't it your guy Micah, And that's forty million dollars. 301 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: So it could be one or either of those things 302 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: that are involved here, But none of it, to me, 303 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: is a good look at all for the Vikings. Again, 304 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: because we come to expect year after year, aging players, 305 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: injury prone players, have to make adjustments. You can't keep 306 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: paying him them same money. The salary cap hit is 307 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: too much. But when a guy is twenty eight years old, 308 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: in his prime, still considered a good edge rusher and 309 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: a pretty valuable member of your club, and you apparently 310 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: have boxed yourself into a position where you have no 311 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: choice but to still consider trading him away, I don't 312 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: I'm not. 313 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 5: Excited if it's a second round draft choice. 314 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 2: Obviously it's better than nothing, but The fact is, there's 315 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: no guarantee the second round pick is ever going to 316 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: be as good as what Jonathan Gernard has already been 317 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: for you. And I'm not saying he's a top five 318 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: edge rusher, but as Seafert said, he's probably a top ten. 319 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: So to me, all of it is should be concerning 320 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: to Vikings fans that that's the position therein. It's one thing, 321 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: as I said, to have to make tough decisions, cold 322 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: calculating decisions on aging players that aren't as important to 323 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: you or their number has just gone up too high. 324 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: Once it's an in your prime, in the prime player who, 325 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: by the way, you know you basically traded him for 326 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: Daniel Hunter. Hunter was brilliant last year. It's not a 327 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: good look for your club. It is a very concerning look, 328 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: and it probably further indicts the previous adminis about how 329 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: reckless and irresponsible they were to be in this position. 330 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 2: I asked Seaffert whether what we're seeing here is that 331 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: the Vikings made a decision to be more likely to 332 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: stick to TJ. Hockinson, another high salaried guy, or Grennard, 333 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: and he said, I don't know if it's that simple, 334 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: because we don't know. Behind the scenes. There may be 335 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 2: stuff going on with Hockinson right now where he knows 336 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: he's gonna have to take less money. But I got 337 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 2: to tell you, if I'm asked who I would rat, 338 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: I can only have one of these two guys in 339 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: the team, and the choices are Grenard or Hockinson. I'm 340 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: picking Grenard not because I love him and I know 341 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 2: we got Dallas Turner behind him. I get that, but 342 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 2: because I just don't think at this point Hockinson he. 343 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 5: Has not impressed me that much. 344 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 2: And I guess you have to factor in is that 345 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: his fault or is it again the problems at the 346 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: quarterback position that made it difficult for you to get 347 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: most out of what he had. I still might have 348 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: to offer. I don't know. But when you're in such 349 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: salary cap heal that you have to start messing with 350 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: in your prime popular key members of your in this 351 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: case defense not a good sign for the current condition 352 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: of the club. 353 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 5: And then drafting. 354 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: Well immediately is no longer just a maybe, it's a 355 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 2: it's a it's almost a pre You're you're saying, it's 356 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 2: a prerequisite. You have to be great in your drafting 357 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 2: from the beginning, and I still don't think it makes 358 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: sense to turn your back on a pretty good player. Now, 359 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: maybe you get a haul, Maybe you got some other 360 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: larger goal out there that you've already worked out somebody else. 361 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: You're gonna be able to think to get along the 362 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: defensive line, whether it's via free agency or trade or 363 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 2: perhaps even the draft. But again, there are no guarantees 364 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: in the draft. Having a high pick sounds good until 365 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: you attach the name to a player, and if the 366 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: player isn't great, or doesn't turn out to be great, 367 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: or needs a lot of time to be good, then 368 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: you're back to I'd rather have the proven player, who 369 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: in this case again is not aging and is in 370 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: his prime. So we'll see where that goes. It's definitely 371 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: worth keeping an eye on. It's still also possible they 372 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 2: could come to terms. There may be some creative way 373 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: out of the box. Maybe this is part of the 374 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: posturing that's gone so public so early, but it almost 375 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 2: sounds to me like it's the most likely scenario. Is 376 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: Grenard says, I know my numbers weren't great, but my 377 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 2: sack rate, I should say pressure rate was actually better 378 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 2: than it was the year before. Still very good. I 379 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: within top ten in the league. Therefore, I'm underpaid when 380 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: I look at some of these other contracts. I don't 381 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: expect to be paid like Michael Parsons, but I'm making 382 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: half that this year, and the going rate is much 383 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: higher than the nineteen million that the Vikings were supposed 384 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: to pay them. And the fact that we can't even 385 00:20:54,760 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 2: pay him that that's big time salary cap mismanagement for sure. 386 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: If indeed you're left with no other choice. Bottom of 387 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 2: the hour break, we'll keep you posted on our effort 388 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: to get Bloom on the program before we wrap it 389 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: up at six thirty and what's turning into a very very. 390 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 5: Busy day, but we'll see how it goes. 391 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: In fact, we may end up getting him after his 392 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: hit on the six o'clock news. We'll give you some 393 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 2: details on what he's covering today if you're curious or 394 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: have not heard, and we'll have a chance maybe to 395 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: get back to our sleep shaming discussion and a couple 396 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: of other stories as well when we return state. 397 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: They ever miss your chance to know what the last 398 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 4: sports news is in town. Chances to win tickets are 399 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 4: just knowing what's going on with your favorite KFA and shows. 400 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 4: You can follow the fan KFA, N one's or zero 401 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 4: three on all of our social channels like Instagram, TikTok, 402 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 4: and x you can stay connected to the sports leader 403 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 4: the fan. 404 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 2: As I mentioned, the plan is to chat with Paul Bloom, 405 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: but it might end up being after six o'clock today. 406 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: We'll see if it's possible, because he's got a lot 407 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: of a significant Fox nine duties to get to and 408 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 2: let me kind of reintroduce the subject a little bit 409 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 2: regarding what he has, what he's been covering. If you 410 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: go back to the beginning, as the day began much 411 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: earlier today, a good six hours ago, US Attorney Daniel 412 00:22:54,720 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: Rosen was in court defending his office and ice from 413 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: potential civil and or criminal contempt findings for violating court 414 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: orders in twenty plus cases, specifically regarding the return of 415 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: personal property to previously detained immigrants. 416 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 5: And he's got a long, long thread. 417 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: This involves this doesn't involve our guy, Judge Schiltz. This 418 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 2: involves Judge Jeffrey Bryan, And early it got so ugly 419 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: that the judge said to Rosen, I have not ruled 420 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 2: out the consequence of imprisonment. Judge going on to say 421 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: that that's unlikely, doesn't want to do it, but that 422 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: all outcomes are on the table, testing back and forth 423 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 2: outlining arguments for today's hearing. Over the first twenty minutes, 424 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 2: then there was a there have been a couple of 425 00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 2: recesses in this case. The hearing resis zoomed, the contemptary resumed. 426 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: I want to say about three hours ago, a little 427 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 2: bit more than that, and I mean it's been extremely tense, 428 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 2: apparently a number of these changes and the debate that 429 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 2: has broken out. So part of the reason he's delayed. 430 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 5: Is that, as I said. 431 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: It's been ongoing pretty much all day. So I'd love 432 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: to hear from him to sort of distill the cases, 433 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: the back and forth, and also ultimately if there's any 434 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 2: ruling this afternoon as well, that would be helpful. So 435 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: that's what Bloom has in others. But Bloom for our 436 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: purposes has been, as I said, has been covering for 437 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: much of the day and I'm trying to find the 438 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: most recent so I can find the most recent Bloom. 439 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 2: This was from forty one minutes ago. Rosen just has 440 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 2: just been sworn in as a witness in this contempt hearing. 441 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: Asked to say and spell his name, and is now 442 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 2: answering questions from Judge Jeffrey Bryan under oath. So for 443 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: all I know, oh, he may still be taking questions. 444 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure. There's nothing newer from Bloom than that, 445 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 2: but it's a pretty We've seen this a couple of times. 446 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: We've seen this with Schiltz, and this is pretty unusual stuff, 447 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: which again speaks to just how badly a lot of 448 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: these cases have been has been bungled. I said this 449 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: a couple of times to the folks who are on 450 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: the side of the President and his administration. By God, 451 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 2: this is what he pledged to do, and this is 452 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 2: what he's got to do, and we got to take 453 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: out all the illegal immigrants as much as possible, whether 454 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: they've committed crimes or not. If you believe that, you 455 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: should be angerer than anybody else. 456 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 5: That clearly. 457 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: The Trump forces did not put in place the infrastructure 458 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: to give itself to give themselves a chance to pay 459 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 2: off on all these quotas, leaving aside the impropriety and 460 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 2: the illegality of some of what they were doing. But 461 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: if you're going to do it, you got to do it. 462 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: Where you've got people in place and the system has 463 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 2: not been They were not prepared to get this done, 464 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: and that's been part of the complaint about the judges, 465 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: because these are people's lives who have been adversely affected, 466 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: families adversely affected as well. So we'll see where that goes. 467 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: That would be I think part of the discussion. Dan, 468 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 2: your no doubt right, You're correct on Grenard and Hockinson 469 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 2: as opposed to one or the other. Dan, why is 470 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: everyone so excited for Kyler Murray? Arizona can't even trade 471 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 2: him and they have to flat out and release him. 472 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not that excited. There's I mean, this 473 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 2: was the trade part of it, though, is the financial part? 474 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: You're not even if there are teams interested in Murray, 475 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 2: they're not going to trade for him to get ahead 476 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: of it to actually, you know, have exclusivity because of 477 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 2: the financial ramifications of doing it. That doesn't necessarily mean 478 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 2: they don't value him. It has more to do with 479 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: the money. I still don't know. I just don't Maybe 480 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: I don't value him as much as I should. I'm 481 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: not sure. This is from six' five one. Guy dan 482 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: has no clue what he's talking about Regarding. Grenard we 483 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: signed him for a great, price he has a bad 484 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: year and wants a, raise and you're making fun of the. 485 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 5: Vikings, WELL i. CAN i can. 486 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: Deconstruct what you're saying on about five, levels but Maybe 487 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: i'll leave it at. 488 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 5: Three let's, say for the sake. 489 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 2: Of, argument, again that you believe it is absurd That, 490 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: grenard if indeed he's asking for a, raise which some have, 491 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: reported not. All that you think it's absurd that after 492 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: a year he had which again in terms of sacks 493 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: wasn't great but analytically in terms of pressure rate was 494 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: still actually pretty. 495 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 5: Good is. 496 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: Ridiculous that makes no sense that you should have to tolerate. 497 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 5: That let's SAY i agree with. 498 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: You the fact is he's still got to replace, him 499 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 2: and you still Have and for, me it's not enough 500 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: to just Met Dallas turner like that with a flick 501 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 2: of the, wrist everything's fine with a snap of the. 502 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: FINGERS i don't think that's necessarily true at all On. 503 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: Turner and the point, is if you've invested In grenard 504 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: to the degree you, have you did so because he's 505 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: still twenty eight years, old regardless of whether he did 506 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: not perform as productively start to finish last year as 507 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,719 Speaker 2: he did the year. Before if you give up on 508 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: him or have to concede and trade, him you still 509 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: lose because you have to replace. Them so you can 510 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: get on your high horse and say that's. Preposterous would 511 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 2: why are The vikings Should why should The vikings consider 512 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: giving him more? 513 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 5: Money you don't have. 514 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: To but, again AS i pointed out to The, texter 515 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: he's at nineteen million for the upcoming. 516 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 5: Season that's not even. 517 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 2: Close the average of the top ten edge rushers for 518 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six was twenty eight. 519 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 5: Million so let's say. 520 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: He wants to go from NINETEEN i don't, know to 521 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: twenty five or maybe to twenty. Eight you could, say, 522 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: well after that, season why should be? Rewarded And i'd 523 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: say you can cut your nose to spite your. Face 524 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: but the fact is you've invested in. Them you decided 525 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: the way to go was to Let daniel go and 526 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: then and basically in, return you're gonna Get. Grenard so 527 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: you clearly thought you had something in, him and if 528 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: you don't have, him you still have to replace. Him 529 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: you can feel good about yourselves, that By, god we 530 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: didn't give in to him because we shouldn't Give hi more. 531 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: Money but that leaves out so much of the story 532 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: THAT i don't think you're doing your homework if you 533 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: can't understand again where he is, financially And i'll say, again. 534 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 5: They should not be in a. 535 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: Position it's another sign of how poorly run this team 536 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: has been recently that they're in a position where they 537 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: can't afford not a thirty three year old defensive, lineman 538 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: a twenty eight year old defensive lineman who they once 539 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: upon a time, loved who is, welp who is extremely 540 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: respected in the, building considered one of the team. Leaders 541 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: and at this point you're in such salary cap, hell 542 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: you not only have to move on guys Like Javon 543 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: hargrave And Aaron, jones WHICH i think is, logical but 544 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: even on a guy like, this you. Failed you've already, 545 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: failed regardless of whether you think that he's being too 546 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: demanding about what he is. Offering just doesn't make any 547 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 2: sense to. Me, now somebody did email this. Earlier you've 548 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: got don't you have one hundred million dollars in two? 549 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 5: Players? ISH i think IT'S i know. 550 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 4: THERE i think it's like ninety ninety five, well how 551 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 4: do you not have any cap? 552 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: Issues, well is that gonna? Is that'll be like in 553 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: two years that the chickens will come home to. Roost 554 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: it's just the timing or how is it that you 555 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: don't seem to be any kind of salary cap hill 556 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: compared to The, vikings who have to worry about the 557 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,239 Speaker 2: possibility of keeping one of their main defensive players from 558 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: a year. 559 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 4: Ago, OH i feel like a they've got a lot 560 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 4: of drafted players that they're playing offensively that are not 561 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 4: paying a lot of money to ae almost all the 562 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 4: wide receivers that they. Have but also they're just straight 563 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 4: getting rid of guys LIKE i want to, say It's 564 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 4: jenkins who they're just gonna let. Walk they're gonna Let 565 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 4: Romeo dobbs. Walk, Probably so, basically when it comes to 566 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 4: any point where there it's time to pay, up they're 567 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 4: just not going to do it and they'd rather go 568 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 4: the young. Way but, that, yeah in doing, that you've 569 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 4: got to draft. Well and for the most Part Green 570 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 4: bay has that they haven't hit on a corner and 571 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 4: Since chaier probably so it's not, perfect but, right. 572 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 5: Yeah they. 573 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 4: DO i think The mica thing will cost them three 574 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 4: years two three years from, now that's when the cap 575 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 4: thatits are still. 576 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 5: That's a good. 577 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: Point, yeah so it maybe they'll they'll get, there but 578 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: they're not there right. 579 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 4: NOW i mean Green bay's in order for this move to, 580 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 4: work Green bay's got to win the big game in 581 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 4: the next two to three years. 582 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 5: Because after, that that's, true that's a good way to. 583 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 4: Look love is going to be in his thirties at that, 584 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 4: point which is still you can be a serviceable quarterback 585 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 4: into your mid, forties the fan has, learned, Correct but 586 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 4: still you're going to have to pay him and so 587 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 4: And micah is not going to Be micah. Forever so 588 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 4: you've got to win the big game the next two 589 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 4: to three. Years that seems. 590 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 2: Fair AND i guess you could say that's, always you, 591 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 2: know that's sort of always the way that that that 592 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 2: this thing goes right is that you have to you 593 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: have to strike at a certain. Point it's sort of 594 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 2: the nature of the, game knowing that sooner or, later 595 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 2: it's just the nature of the system that it's gonna 596 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: it'll probably catch up with. You but that that's exactly 597 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: what you have to. Do by the, way, TODAY i 598 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: noticed that also now that we have a little bit 599 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: of of of of time, Here i'm trying to scroll 600 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: to the uh correct. 601 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 5: Place. 602 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: HERE a senator from A republican senator From North, Carolina Tom, 603 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: tillis had your Gal Christy nome on the stand today 604 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 2: and apparently it wasn't. Pretty tillius calling for, it called 605 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: For nome to leave her. Post what we've seen under 606 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: you as a disaster under your leadership is a. Disaster 607 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: he went on to be very front and center and 608 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 2: vocal about the way ice took over this town and 609 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: to a certain and a large, degree terrorized the. Town and, 610 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: again this is A republican now he's not been a 611 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: free to criticize in the, past but he was very 612 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 2: specific AND i thought very effective in that regards as. 613 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: Well i'm sure it's a subject That special k might 614 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: get into tomorrow as. Well Bratchewan Brian kave in text 615 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: line is six four six eight. Six now somebody is 616 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: also reminding us That Murray Kyler murray if you go 617 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 2: back to twenty twenty four his qbr if you care 618 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: about that, rating and you, Know i've sometimes respected, it 619 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 2: sometimes not so, much but it's so hard to know 620 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 2: which one really is the one that, matters but he 621 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: FINISHED i believe ninth IN qbr in twenty twenty. FOUR 622 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 2: a number of his stats are, okay the record hasn't been, 623 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 2: again how much do you how? 624 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 5: Much is? That it's always the age old, question. 625 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 2: Right if you get a quarterback Like murray who becomes 626 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: a available the mystery that has to be, Solved and 627 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 2: this is where you have to trust your instincts and 628 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 2: you have to TRUST i. 629 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 5: Guess your ability to. 630 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: Evaluate is it he elevated the team beyond what it 631 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 2: was really capable of just playing five hundred football largely 632 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: throughout his career or was he not good enough to elevate? 633 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 2: Them and were they not as bad as a lot 634 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 2: of people. Thought that's basically what this comes down. To 635 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 2: if you come to the conclusion that he didn't really 636 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 2: have much and to the extent that they were, competitive 637 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: he's the guy who helped them be competitive and all 638 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 2: he needs is better infrastructure around, him THEN i guess 639 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 2: you have to throw him into the. MIX i just 640 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: have not been all that impressed with what he has. 641 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 2: DONE i know there's the stories behind the scenes about work. 642 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,959 Speaker 2: ETHIC i don't know how true they. Are that became 643 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 2: kind of a talking. Point may have been fair to, 644 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:10,439 Speaker 2: him maybe. Not BUT i just never felt like he's. 645 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 2: AWAY i never GOT i never left long stretches of 646 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 2: watching me say that's a winning. Quarterback if he just 647 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 2: he gets get him in the right, situation he could 648 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: make pretty. Plays BUT i guess over the YEARS i 649 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 2: have tried to learn to look past, that as odd 650 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 2: as it, sounds because pretty plays can deceive you like 651 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 2: whoa who else can do? That that was he made 652 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 2: something out of nothing. There i'm far more interested in 653 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 2: consistency and just making the right, play making the fundamentally sound. 654 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 2: Play AND i DON'T i just didn't sense that appeal 655 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: to him all that. 656 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 5: Much AND i Guess i'm still not. 657 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 2: Convinced that he's the greatest fit at the quarterback position 658 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 2: for this particular quarterback. Whisperer but, again if The vikings 659 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 2: do their due diligence and they're, right you could hit 660 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 2: the mother load with them. Right and, again you're probably 661 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 2: gonna be able to get him on a one year, 662 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 2: contract which is gonna be. Cheap it's gonna be like 663 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 2: A Russell wilson sort of. Situation and although that might 664 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 2: be an, Analogy vikings fans don't like because that didn't 665 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: work out all that well In. Denver BUT i think 666 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 2: that's that's why allegedly you pay these guys the big. 667 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 2: Bucks they have to make those they have to be 668 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 2: able to project and look past whatever the rest of 669 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 2: us on the outside look at and say, no, no, no no, 670 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 2: no we get them here in our, situation it can 671 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 2: at least be. 672 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 5: Good BUT i just have. 673 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 2: NOT i just don't feel that interested in investing in, him 674 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 2: AND i know it would probably be investing. Him, realistically 675 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 2: you're investing in him for one year and it's low 676 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 2: risk to the extent that you're not gonna have to 677 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 2: pay him a lot of, money and if he, struggles, 678 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 2: hell by the end of the, season you could you 679 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: could be playing McCarthy. Again if he's, brilliant then you 680 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 2: probably have to commit to. Him and you, say we 681 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: don't mind committing to him because of his, age there's 682 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 2: no reason he can't be good for a. While and 683 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 2: then at that point maybe you decide on McCarthy you're 684 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: gonna trade, him or you're just going to go another, 685 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 2: direction or whatever the case may. 686 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 5: BE i JUST. 687 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 2: I just AND i maybe it's a size. THING i 688 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 2: don't you, KNOW i think his size is a. Problem 689 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 2: he just he just feels like he feels to me 690 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 2: as if he's older than he. Is and just, now 691 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 2: is it maybe a new team might that refresh? Him 692 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 2: is that maybe what he? NEEDS i guess that's, Possible 693 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 2: But i'm not particularly. Outstanding i'm particularly excited about. Him 694 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 2: if you tell me that the choices are Either murray 695 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 2: Or Gino, SMITH i probably would Take murray BECAUSE i 696 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 2: can't get past what a textor said. 697 00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 5: Earlier and he's. 698 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 2: Right gino did resurrect his career From New. York, right he, 699 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 2: Did there's no question about. That but what did they 700 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 2: ultimately decide In? Seattle we got upgrade, there nice, job 701 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,919 Speaker 2: we got upgrade and that Was. Donald and we'll see 702 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 2: What darnald does in his second. YEAR i, mean maybe 703 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 2: he'll cool. OFF i don't. Know and, again he wasn't, 704 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 2: great but he's good. Enough AND i just don't like 705 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 2: getting another team's you, know we're going to be smarter 706 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 2: than another team that just went to the Super, bowl 707 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 2: really well run organization that said that's not good. Enough he's, 708 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 2: okay he's not. Bad he's. Serviceable, now if you think 709 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 2: McCarthy's going to be the starter from the start of 710 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 2: the year and, say, well we just want a guy, 711 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,479 Speaker 2: who when he gets, hurt has a chance to help 712 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 2: us win games in a way that several of the 713 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 2: backups that we went to last, year. 714 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 5: DON'T i guess then you'd say he's. 715 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 2: Definitely an upgrade over the backup quarterbacks that The vikings 716 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 2: used this last. YEAR i don't deny, That but then to, 717 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 2: me it feels more like where you're getting another, backup, 718 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 2: Right you're just getting another backup WHEN i thought the 719 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 2: whole idea was somebody that we think could challenge the 720 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 2: INCUMBENT qb immediately almost immediately be plugged into that position 721 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 2: and might actually give you a chance. 722 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 5: To win enough games to make the. 723 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 4: Playoffs So i've been doing some research on just the 724 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 4: contract situations BECAUSE i keep seeing the, text how does 725 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 4: you got one hundred million in you, know love And? 726 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 4: Parsons how are The packers? Not how Many vikings right? Now, 727 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 4: Well i'm just going to tell you are on rookie deals. 728 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 4: Fourteen that's how many rookie deals fourteen and names Including Dallas, 729 00:40:53,640 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 4: Turner Jordan, addison, McCarthy Donovan. Jackson The packers of thirty one. Players, 730 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 4: wow that's and that all is purely on your ability to. 731 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 5: Draft that one hundred. 732 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 2: Percent and as we talked about, earlier that's what teams 733 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 2: like The Kansas City chiefs have historically been able to 734 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 2: do and and and it's almost like, you they have 735 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 2: learned to get through the imbalance from a salary standpoint 736 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 2: on the. 737 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 5: Team and that's. 738 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 2: The only way you can do it is have that 739 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 2: many guys on rookie. Contracts you're one hundred percent, Right 740 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 2: and you, know all the story has been told over 741 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,399 Speaker 2: and over. Again if we've learned anything from the last few, 742 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 2: WEEKS i think it's been confirmed that the general manager 743 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 2: did not do his job very. Well and Again i'm 744 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 2: not gonna pile on and blame him for all the quarterback, 745 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 2: dysfunction BECAUSE i don't think that's. FAIR i Think koc's 746 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 2: got his fingerprints all over. That but when it comes 747 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 2: to the, draft, largely that's got to be on the 748 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 2: guy who's the general manager of the. Team even on 749 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 2: a team that it seemed LIKE koc had an outsized 750 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 2: influence in the draft room a little, bit you still 751 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 2: have to put that guy, on the guy making the, 752 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 2: draft who's got the final call on, that and the 753 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 2: numbers speak for. Themselves there just has not been enough 754 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 2: success at. All all, right we're going to make this 755 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 2: the top of the hour. Pause i'm still holding on. 756 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 2: Hope maybe we can get a minute or two at. 757 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 2: Bloom if, not we'll punt and, uh we'll figure we'll 758 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 2: get him on sometime down the. Road thirty minutes yet to. 759 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 2: Go we've got some more wild stuff to, discuss maybe 760 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 2: a little bit more on The. Wolves do we have 761 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 2: any final word yet On Anthony edwards because he is 762 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 2: now listed as of the top five at five he 763 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 2: was listed as questionable. 764 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 4: TONIGHT i know that slow mos gonna. Play that's the 765 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 4: indication from the head. Coach Star if If anthony doesn't, 766 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 4: go probably. NOT i think he said he'll, play he'll, 767 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,240 Speaker 4: play all, right fair, enough all, Right so we're getting 768 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 4: a new info On Anthony, edwards who was downgraded to 769 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 4: questionable because of that ongoing chronic foot. Issue we'll let 770 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,280 Speaker 4: you Know wolves on the Timber Will channel tonight hosting 771 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 4: The Memphis Grizzlies The. 772 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 5: Wild ON fm one hundred point. 773 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 2: Three the fan tonight and we're hosting is A Tampa 774 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 2: Bay Tampa Bay Tampa, Bay Tampa, Bay Tampa bay, tonight 775 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 2: and we let's get a. Victory let's not let's not be. 776 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 2: Labored let's not turn this losing streak into A wagnerian op. 777 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 2: Man you know WHAT i would give to chat with 778 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 2: the late Great Ron rosenbaum or the late. 779 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 7: Great Joe friedberg on a day like. This what's going 780 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 7: on in the courts in The Twin. Cities oh my, 781 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 7: GOD i miss those guys so so much each and every, 782 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 7: day not to mention the the personal side of all of. 783 00:43:54,360 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 7: That if you are heading to targets For wolves grizz 784 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 7: your troubles are. 785 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 2: Over Anthony edwards upgraded, again will be available. Tonight he'd 786 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 2: been listed as questionable earlier in the afternoon with a 787 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 2: foot issue that has kind of plagued him this season 788 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 2: and has sidelined him for some. Games the latest info 789 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 2: is he is officially in for, tonight at least to 790 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 2: start the. Game now The wolves relax too much as 791 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 2: a result of his, availability that's been known to. Happen 792 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 2: we'll see how that, goes but he is indeed. Available 793 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,720 Speaker 2: let me give you a quick hit regarding the update 794 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 2: in the four day. Conflict now in The Middle east 795 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 2: because there are some significant developments that we need to. 796 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 2: DISCUSS us embassies and diplomatic missions are taking the brunt 797 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 2: of what's going. On in response to The american And 798 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 2: israeli military. OFFENSIVE a drone struck the parking lot of 799 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 2: THE us consulate In. DUBAI us embassy In riod came 800 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 2: under attack twice, today causing part of the roof to, 801 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 2: collapse according to people familiar with the. Matter this is 802 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 2: according to A Wall Street journal. Roundup President trump said 803 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,439 Speaker 2: That iran's military has been largely, neutralized including His Navy Air, 804 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 2: force and he said THE us could start escorting tankers 805 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 2: through The strait Of Horn moves the strategic waterway Where 806 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 2: iran warned it could begin attacking. Ships israel struck a 807 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 2: Building iranian clerics used to choose the country's supreme. Leader 808 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 2: iranian official media said the building had been. Evacuated SIX 809 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 2: us troops have been. Killed thus, far over seven hundred 810 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 2: people have died in THE Us israeli strikes On, iran 811 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 2: according to The Red. Crescent The State department says it 812 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 2: was getting charter flights and military aircrafts For american citizens 813 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 2: who want to leave The Middle east that warning has 814 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 2: been sent. Out President trump has talked before about that 815 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 2: the biggest wave is yet to. Come whether that's true or, 816 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 2: not we don't, know because we've had various versions of 817 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 2: the events as they have taken. Place one of the 818 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 2: STORIES i read earlier today regarding the drones is the 819 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 2: concern that some of The Middle east countries may soon 820 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 2: to deal with the, drones some of them may quickly 821 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 2: start running out of weaponry to, neutralize and that that 822 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 2: that there's a concern that when it comes to, drones 823 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 2: that might be the One iranian strength where they could 824 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 2: go a lot. Longer and so there's concern that maybe 825 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 2: you have to, START i, guess deciding when to use 826 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 2: your defensive, weapon right, weaponry and when to save it 827 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 2: for what might be more dangerous attack via missile From 828 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 2: iran as. Well now maybe a lot of that has 829 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 2: been taken, OUT i don't. Know but the, whole the 830 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 2: whole drone, technology which AS i understand, it The ukrainians 831 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 2: have been forced over a period of years to get 832 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:10,399 Speaker 2: inventive on and creative on regarding how you handle, it is. 833 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 5: A key issue to watch moving. 834 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 2: FORWARD i am beginning to, think you, Know we've had 835 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 2: about nine versions of why we, attacked and the, question 836 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 2: here's the question on the, table if is it possible 837 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 2: that the number one reason, was AS i have, read 838 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 2: we with The, israelis using a lot of our, intelligence 839 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 2: became aware that The iatola was going to be meeting 840 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:54,439 Speaker 2: with other major dignitaries in a place that gay afforded 841 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 2: the opportunity to take him out in a way that 842 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 2: was highly, unusual and ultimately the decision, was we're going 843 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 2: to take advantage. 844 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 5: Of that. 845 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 2: Opportunity if the president has just said that's that's we 846 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 2: just this isn't a regime that's been evil for forty seven. 847 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 2: Years we did want given that, opportunity given the, negotiations 848 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 2: according to, him at least we're not going very, well 849 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 2: we're going to do what we're going to, do what 850 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 2: we finally have a chance to. Do what would the 851 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 2: acceptance level have, been rather than we've had about an 852 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 2: ever shifting series of motivations for the approach that we 853 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,720 Speaker 2: have ultimately. Taken, obviously a lot more has happened since 854 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:54,280 Speaker 2: we took out the you, Know iran's top top, officials 855 00:48:54,360 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 2: a lot more and what we heard in one case From. 856 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 5: Rubio Marco rubio. 857 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,479 Speaker 2: Was, well we Knew israel was going to be doing, 858 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 2: this and therefore we knew this was going to be 859 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 2: a response we wanted to get ahead of the. Response 860 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 2: was that real or. Not we had the discussion about that. 861 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 2: Yesterday there's a debate on that as. Well i'm just 862 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,280 Speaker 2: wondering if just going straight ahead on what the impetus 863 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 2: of this was at the start of it might have 864 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 2: been a little bit clearer and a little bit easier 865 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 2: for individuals to. Understand we'll we'll never. Know the other 866 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 2: mystery continues to be although you, know the obvious question has, been, 867 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,280 Speaker 2: well if you run on a campaign of or tired 868 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 2: of the neo cons trying to run the world in 869 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:48,320 Speaker 2: terms of get us, involved our hardware, involved our bodies, 870 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 2: involved we're not interested in doing that. Anymore we're not 871 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 2: interested in nation. Building that was largely what the president ran. 872 00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 2: On so the assumption was that he'd have some explaining 873 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 2: to do his own constituency based on this is. Contrary 874 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 2: this is the sort of aggressiveness That trump fans hated 875 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 2: in the rest of The Republican. Party they were repulsed by. 876 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 2: It and now that's what's taking. Place and yet in the, 877 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 2: POLLS i think there's a pretty good. BREAKDOWN i think 878 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:29,760 Speaker 2: Among democrats and independence The poles heavily indicate no belief 879 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 2: in the. 880 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 5: Approach that The United states has taken. 881 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 2: Here but AMONG i think Hardcore trump, FANS i believe 882 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 2: the polls INDICATE i saw this ON cnn earlier, today 883 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:47,240 Speaker 2: a belief that they endorse the approach or they're willing 884 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 2: to accept that approach as. Well it's a story That 885 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 2: i'm very curious to see how it's going to. 886 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 5: Go and, again. 887 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 2: What is it Possible we're heading for stretch where there's 888 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 2: likely to be more damage in serve of These Middle 889 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 2: east countries as they have to become more discriminating as 890 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 2: to when they call out their best defensive equipment to 891 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 2: deal with the. Drones if they're running out of, DRONES 892 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 2: i should, say if they're running out of defensive equipment 893 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 2: to deal with exactly that we will indeed have to 894 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 2: see Bratchean brian cafe in text line is open at 895 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 2: six four six eighty. 896 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 5: Six we are hoping for. 897 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,720 Speaker 2: A hotline phone call From Paul. 898 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 5: Bloom did we get? It did he just? 899 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 3: Call all? 900 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 5: Right can do we have? 901 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 2: Time to take a quick break and come, back or 902 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 2: what's the? Schedule what do you? Think and then just 903 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 2: do a quick five minute hit with. Him on the other, 904 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 2: END i would, Say, brik, now no break. Down, okay 905 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,800 Speaker 2: we'll break and see if we can get just a 906 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 2: quick five minutes From bloom on whether there was any 907 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 2: resolution on a very busy day in the. 908 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 5: Courtroom he's been covering it all. Day state it's the 909 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 5: bumper to bumper show. Rat it's probably to By american. 910 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 5: Pressure all, right let's hit it. 911 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,479 Speaker 2: Quickly Paul bloom kind enough to call the hot line 912 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 2: on a very very busy day for him, Him thank, 913 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 2: you sir for the. 914 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 5: Time just a few minutes. 915 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 2: Left as you, know So i'm looking at a tweet 916 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 2: from you twenty six minutes. Ago contempt under. Advisement Judge 917 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 2: bryan has just wrapped up a. 918 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 5: Grueling full day. 919 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 2: Hearing he has taken all issues under, advisement did not 920 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 2: issue any, rulings no timeline for his. 921 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,439 Speaker 5: Ruling what does that mean? 922 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 3: Exactly, well you, know we put in all, day we 923 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 3: thought we'd got a ruling at the end of the. 924 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 3: Day he had called In Daniel rose, in he had 925 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,240 Speaker 3: called THE us, attorney he put contempt on the, table 926 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 3: even said this morning he was even considering imprisonment a 927 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 3: criminal contempt finding Against trump administration officials for continued violations 928 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 3: of court. Orders he took Testimony Daniel rosen sworn. In 929 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 3: at one point down the witness, stand rosenl so made 930 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,919 Speaker 3: the government. Argument so it was kind of an odd 931 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 3: situation for THE Us. Attorney but in the, end the 932 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,399 Speaker 3: judge that he's just going to take everything he heard 933 00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 3: today under advisement and issue a written order at some 934 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 3: point down the. Road he didn't put a timeline on. 935 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 3: It but this specific, case, again we talked a lot 936 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 3: about habeas petitions civil litigation From Operation metro serves with 937 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 3: more than a thousand of these cases filed by detained 938 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 3: immigrants that argued that their arrests were, unconstitutional and the, 939 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 3: bench the district court, judges in THE Us Attorney's, office 940 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,359 Speaker 3: The department Of justice have been at odds over what 941 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,439 Speaker 3: the judges believe or continued violations of court. Orders these, 942 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 3: cases specifically In Judge brian's courtroom, today twenty eight of 943 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 3: them we started. With they were all related to the 944 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,839 Speaker 3: returning of possessions personal. Belongings the detained immigrants who were. 945 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 3: Free so think cell, phones, passports visa's work, permits The 946 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 3: minnesota STATE id. Cards that these judges when they ordered 947 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 3: the release of the, immigrants ordered the release of all 948 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 3: belongings they were arrested. With and in you, know several 949 00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 3: dozen cases Of Judge, bryan's he had found that his 950 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 3: orders to return those items immediately were. Violated and today 951 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 3: this hearing brought all those together and the things started. 952 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 3: Pasty it was Fifty rosen on the, defensive and at 953 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,359 Speaker 3: the end of the, day eight hours plus, Later Judge brian, 954 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 3: says we'll consider everything and make his order in due. 955 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 2: Time all, Right so we had previously some very strong 956 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 2: commentary from the bench Involving Judge, schultz AS i recall, it, 957 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 2: Right so is is that a completely different set of 958 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 2: cases and circumstances are? They is that at all connected 959 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 2: to what is being examined here In Judge bryan's. 960 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 3: Courtroom, no a very Interesting Chief Judge Patrick, Schultz republican. 961 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:47,240 Speaker 3: Appointe he brought to light more than two hundred broad 962 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,440 Speaker 3: court order violations last week in which he threatened again 963 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 3: Of Daniel rosen that criminal contempt meaning you, know behind 964 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 3: bars government official being jailed for violations of court. Orders 965 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,359 Speaker 3: So Judge shiltz was speaking for the entire. BENCH i 966 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 3: don't know specifically how many of These Judge brian cases 967 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,800 Speaker 3: fit into the now two hundred plus That Judge shiltz 968 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 3: is alluding. To it does get, confusing but it was 969 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 3: interesting Because Daniel, rose in THE Us attorney made that, 970 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,320 Speaker 3: argument you, know In Judge bryan's. Courtroom he, said don't 971 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 3: come here with your you, know beliefs and understanding of 972 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,280 Speaker 3: all the violations you, think you KNOW ice is violated 973 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 3: over the last few. Months we are in this courtroom 974 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 3: for very specific issues related to personal. Belongings and when 975 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 3: you get down to the individual, cases AND i got 976 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 3: to say some of the like the personal, belongings the 977 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 3: government acknowledged it in two cases they blatantly, lost you, know. 978 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:45,319 Speaker 5: The person's right. 979 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 3: Items but you, Know Daniel rose is, like that's a human, 980 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 3: mistake that's not a contemptible. Issue it was like it 981 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 3: came down to a shoe race that the detained immigrant 982 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,359 Speaker 3: was concerned about The god forbid it ever ended up 983 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 3: in a crime. Scene HIS dna might be on. It 984 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,360 Speaker 3: and you're just sitting in the court And you're, like, 985 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 3: WELL i don't know if the one shoe lace of 986 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 3: itself is. Contemptible he, argues he didn't get it. Back 987 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 3: he was arrested and he had a shoelace and it's gone, 988 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 3: now and you know several. Others you, know the driver's 989 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 3: license wasn't you, know directly returned to the, individual but 990 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 3: instead was at the front deck at The Whipple, Building 991 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 3: so it created an extra. Step is that a contemptible? 992 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 3: Offense obviously the judge will. Decide different people have different, 993 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 3: opinions but very some of these were very WHAT i 994 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 3: would describe as very small. Issues but If Judge brian 995 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 3: does look more at the totality of, things that all 996 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 3: of a, sudden you, know those contempt MATTERS i think 997 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 3: become more. 998 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 2: Relevant how testy did it get when the judge was 999 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 2: examining Rosen. 1000 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,280 Speaker 3: Or ask questions of his well at the very, beginning 1001 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 3: And daniel rose and really got on the defense Of 1002 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 3: they really went back and forth trying to establish the 1003 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 3: parameters for the rest of the. Day everybody calmed down 1004 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,360 Speaker 3: at one point mid. Morning if you look back at 1005 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,359 Speaker 3: My twitter threat, today you'll see that there was a 1006 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 3: sort of a judge called the time out and took a. 1007 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 3: Break but he described that we got, off meaning the 1008 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 3: judge in THE us attorney to a feisty and test the, 1009 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 3: start and it was frosty and it was, intense and 1010 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 3: the things calmed down once he was on this. STAND i, 1011 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 3: mean they went back and forth a little bit throughout the. 1012 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,160 Speaker 3: Day Daniel rosen firmly believes his office is doing everything 1013 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 3: it can possibly can to comply with some court. Orders 1014 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 3: his office takes. Issue some of these court orders are 1015 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 3: being issued like, immediately you, know and and these things take, 1016 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 3: hours so you, know his his, positions they're going to 1017 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 3: miss a deadline or two where human beings that just 1018 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 3: the paperwork process takes a little. Bit but of course 1019 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 3: the judges come at it with you, KNOW i don't 1020 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 3: want to get into their, heads but they don't believe 1021 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 3: these these, immigrants writ, large eighty plus percent of these 1022 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 3: habeas cases should even be detained at, all so they're 1023 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 3: frustrated by the. ARREST Us attorney doesn't necessarily speak for 1024 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 3: the Entire trump. Administration they have very specific, clients very 1025 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 3: specific court orders they need to, follow and it comes down, 1026 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,640 Speaker 3: to you, know human beings in the courtroom And Judge 1027 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 3: brian's gonna have to make an ultimate decision whether to 1028 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,880 Speaker 3: hold you, know A Daniel rosen or A Civil division 1029 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 3: chief in contempt of, court whether it's to send a 1030 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 3: message to the government at, large or whether they firmly 1031 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 3: believe these human beings are responsible for some of these 1032 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,680 Speaker 3: non compliance or violation of court. Orders, SO i, mean 1033 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 3: fascinating to watch all. Day but WHEN i tell you 1034 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 3: that's a, ruling that's a ruling miss in the federal 1035 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 3: courthouse or, courtroom it took a lot out of everybody 1036 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 3: in that court. 1037 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 5: ROOM i gotta believe that's. 1038 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 2: True AS i recall, it some of the stuff That 1039 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 2: Judge schultz either said or wrote was the larger belief 1040 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 2: that you make this decision to go as broad as you, 1041 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 2: did and you clearly did not have Your regardless of 1042 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 2: us discussing the legitimacy of a lot of these detained the, 1043 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 2: arrests it's you did not have your ducks in a. 1044 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 2: Row you did not have the people in, Place you 1045 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 2: don't have the infrastructure in place to possibly do this 1046 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 2: in a way that as a judge we. Could we 1047 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 2: are our the judges in totality believe that that made 1048 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 2: it even possible that you could follow the law and 1049 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 2: do this in good. 1050 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 5: Fashion that was a. 1051 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,200 Speaker 2: Lot AS i recalled what the What Judge schiltz had 1052 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 2: to say PREVIOUSLY. 1053 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 3: Bingo that was in his order as unprecedented Supplemental order 1054 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 3: that he filed last, week he, says you, KNOW i 1055 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 3: mean he turned it on the. Government you made a 1056 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 3: plan to arrest thousands of individuals During Operation Metro, surge 1057 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 3: but did not create the infrastructure to handle what was 1058 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 3: going to be an onslaught of litigation and what. Started you, 1059 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 3: know a couple of mon months, Ago January, february we 1060 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 3: were really talking about the release, time, right how long was? 1061 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 3: It you, know someone would be ordered released On january, 1062 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 3: fifteenth but it would be Until january twenty until they 1063 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 3: could get the detained immigrant back up here From texas 1064 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 3: Or New mexico or somewhere. Else but now we've sort 1065 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 3: of as An Operation mester of surgeons weren't wound. Down 1066 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 3: we've now turned to sort of the bookkeeping, matters Like, 1067 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,920 Speaker 3: okay we're going to take your, passport we're going to 1068 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 3: take your, wallet we're going to take your driver's. License 1069 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 3: that's going to go into this bag and that's going to, 1070 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 3: continue you, know to follow. You but those, items you, 1071 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 3: know get, lost they get, misplaced somebody gets, moved but 1072 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,960 Speaker 3: then release from somewhere else and the items haven't caught 1073 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,920 Speaker 3: up to. Them so, logistically we've gone into the, logistics 1074 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 3: and that's WHAT i Think Judge bryan was trying to 1075 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 3: get at. Today and in, fact there was a nice, 1076 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,919 Speaker 3: administrator a deputy field ops director out Of Saint, paul 1077 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 3: the operations center, there who had to testify today about 1078 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 3: what sort of policies are in place to make sure 1079 01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:00,200 Speaker 3: individuals property stay with the Individual and then, clearly you, 1080 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 3: know the items were lost in two very obvious, cases 1081 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,920 Speaker 3: including a guy who was released even without the footwear 1082 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 3: he was arrested. With he's missing his, boots his cell, 1083 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 3: phone HIS, id his driver's, life and his bank, cards 1084 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 3: everything that was in his. Wallet so you, know the 1085 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 3: government argues, that, look we feel, bad we're, sorry it's not, 1086 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 3: contemptible but we'll certainly pay for your, stuff while the 1087 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 3: immigrants attorneys are saying it's. Contemptible this is a human beings. 1088 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 3: Life you had no rationale for arresting, him and now 1089 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 3: here he is without all of his goods and then, 1090 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 3: again that's kind of what unfolded today in the. Courtroom great. 1091 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 2: DISTILLATION i appreciate you still finding time for. US i 1092 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,600 Speaker 2: know that this has been a much busier and longer 1093 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 2: day than perhaps you even. Expected good to chat with. 1094 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 2: You we'll talk. Again thanks, Man. 1095 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 3: Yeah thank. You. 1096 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 5: Dan always a. 1097 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 2: Pleasure Paul bloom with great stuff on a busy day 1098 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 2: that in the courtroom that he was covering and perhaps 1099 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,080 Speaker 2: more yet to come regarding a ruling that actually did 1100 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 2: not in this case take place at the end of 1101 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 2: a marathon session in the. Courtroom that's the music meaning 1102 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 2: we're wrapping things up, here so the plan. 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