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Speaker 2: Of the Huskies.

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Speaker 1: A couple of days ago, Softie and I had a

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Speaker 1: the Washington Huskies, Jed Fish, to which Jackson has pared

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Speaker 1: Softie asking Jed flat out, I mean, how much money

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Speaker 2: To work with for these players?

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Speaker 3: Just a couple of weeks ago, I think you and

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Speaker 3: How much of your daily grind is spent convincing people

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Speaker 3: have the war chest, as Dick talked about, to get

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Speaker 3: the players you're looking for and the players you have.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it certainly takes up a good amount of time

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Speaker 4: as we're continuing to try to, you know, create the

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Speaker 4: throughout the last two weeks, there's been a lot of

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Speaker 4: reports of programs, you know, trying to get to ten

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Speaker 4: most of these programs that we've heard about on Twitter,

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Speaker 4: And you know that those are going to be the

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Speaker 4: And it's going to be our goal to be able

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Speaker 3: Well, let me just let me just jump in then,

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Speaker 3: because you mentioned between twenty and thirty million. Where are

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Speaker 2: It's here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, We're gonna have to We're gonna have to find

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Speaker 4: as big of a gap as there as there was

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Speaker 4: I think we all can see the way the gaps work.

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Speaker 4: Some programs that we we had a big gap on

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Speaker 4: that we played our team a lot more than their team,

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Speaker 4: and you could see the scores, and there's other times

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Speaker 4: we feel like that quarter is a quarter of depth,

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Speaker 3: but he's got one more year if he wants it.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you think Denzel's coming back next year?

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Speaker 4: There's great arguments for both. You know, there's always opportunities

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Speaker 2: Never know, no doubt Jed fish with us and Jeed

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Speaker 2: tell you what you know?

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Speaker 3: Dick and I mentioned the other day we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: So this one's for the two five three. Ask Jed

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Speaker 3: why he didn't run the ball more against Oregon. Mohammed

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think we ran it thirty three times.

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Speaker 4: the fact that we outgained them by sixty yards. It

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 3: And this is from the eight oh eight area code.

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Speaker 3: the group that's potentially coming back. Can you please ask

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Speaker 4: Respond to that, I will be coaching Washington in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty six, he should buy his tickets. Okay, they should

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Speaker 4: buy their tickets. There was a there was a lot

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Speaker 4: I really one hundred percent to leave in this team.

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Speaker 1: Was that a distraction at all for your kids in

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Speaker 4: You know, I hope not, but I'm sure they were

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Speaker 3: Well before you go, jed to get to that point

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Speaker 1: A lot to get to their great stuff from Jed

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll have a macro discussion later on about you know,

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Speaker 6: Hugh is here.

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Speaker 1: We are chatting about what we heard from the Jedfish

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Speaker 1: If you've got some thoughts what jumped out at you

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Speaker 6: Well, I think that demon similarly while the offense has

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Speaker 1: this amount of games. But I don't think it really

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Speaker 1: works that way, does it?

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Speaker 2: In college? For a sudden, it really doesn't work that way?

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Speaker 2: In baseball?

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Speaker 1: Hell, the Mets don't make the playoffs and the Mariners

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Speaker 1: go to the Alcs with one hundred and fifty million

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Speaker 1: dollars less.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, there's clearly correlations between more talented rosters and

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Speaker 6: winning championship courts, right, And and yet there are teams

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Speaker 6: that are better. Take Indiana, right, like, like you get

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Speaker 6: a really white hot coach like Signatty and he's done

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Speaker 6: it for two years now, Like that's that's no accident.

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Speaker 6: What's happening there? And so I think on the one

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Speaker 6: I have mixed feelings because on the one hand, it

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Speaker 6: strikes me as a little bit of an excuse making

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Speaker 6: you know in advance. But on the other hand, it

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Speaker 6: strikes me as as just pragmatism, Like I think that's bad,

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Speaker 6: Like this is the reality of now football. Yes, that

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Speaker 6: you got you as a fan base have to decide.

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Speaker 5: How much this is.

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Speaker 6: Important to you. And it's important to Ohio State in

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Speaker 6: the Michigan and h Oregon, and and of course Oregon

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Speaker 6: has a unique booster. But but then Wisconsin, they're a

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Speaker 6: top twenty five defense. You know, you'd like to think

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Speaker 6: moving forward, that's going to be an aberration that you

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Speaker 6: that you have that bad of a game in Wisconsin

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Speaker 6: probably is comparably compensated.

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Speaker 5: But at any event, I see your point.

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Speaker 6: I think he's just he's just trying to deal in cold,

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Speaker 6: hard facts. It can be a little off putting, but

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Speaker 6: on the other hand, it's you know, it can be refreshing,

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Speaker 6: you know, because he's because he's speaking reality.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I didn't have a b And that's why

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Speaker 1: I didn't have a big problem with I was just like, ah,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of interesting that that's how that's how he

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Speaker 1: phrased it, and then about his future. He's gonna be

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Speaker 1: at Washington next year, and then he says, I hope

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Speaker 1: to have a tenure at a place where people can

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Speaker 1: look back and say that was a hell of a run.

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Speaker 1: And that to me can be seen in two ways.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can say, you can say, hey, he

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Speaker 1: really wants to be somewhere for a long period of time.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't always want to be two years and gone,

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Speaker 1: two years and gone, two years and gone like he

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Speaker 1: has been his entire career. He wants to be someplace

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Speaker 1: for a long period of time. But I didn't hear

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Speaker 1: him say Seattle in that sentence. I didn't hear him

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Speaker 1: say the University of Washington in that sentence, And I

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Speaker 1: think that would have been a perfect time for him

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Speaker 1: to add that point.

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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Speaker 6: It startles me how people can't think through and parse

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Speaker 6: the words that coaches say. And now, I granted they're

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Speaker 6: in a tough position, but back in what October or whatever,

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Speaker 6: that conference, he never expresses commitment, even though that was

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Speaker 6: the headline he said. He spoke for a minute and

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Speaker 6: forty two seconds, and he's basically, if you had to

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Speaker 6: sum it up in three seconds, a minute and forty two,

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Speaker 6: you'd say Jetfish loves Washington or likes Washington, doesn't say

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Speaker 6: anything about commitment. And then in this interview you guys

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Speaker 6: had two days ago when he says the rumors didn't

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Speaker 6: come from me.

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Speaker 5: Of course they didn't. They never have, they never have.

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Speaker 6: It was Nick Saban, They never came from him, Jim,

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Speaker 6: you know Brian Kelly when he left, So you don't

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Speaker 6: expect the rumors to come. And then a tenure at

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Speaker 6: a place. Look, he's being cantid. He'd like there to

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Speaker 6: be a place where the ten years out of place.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, but he's not saying whether it's Washington,

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Speaker 6: and so I just take nothing out of it.

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Speaker 5: I think he's saying what he needs to say.

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Speaker 6: But as far as taking any comfort about oh, the

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Speaker 6: rumors didn't come for me, Oh, that tells me nothing.

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Speaker 6: What you said six weeks ago tells me nothing. And

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Speaker 6: by the way, I don't hold that against you, because

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Speaker 6: coaches have to answer it the question how you did,

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Speaker 6: how you did?

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Speaker 5: What I'm actually.

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Speaker 6: Expressing is explain to me how you can glean anything

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Speaker 6: from those comments. I don't think you can, because because

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Speaker 6: the real question would be are you interested? In other jobs.

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Speaker 6: My son plays at Florida for the last two years,

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Speaker 6: got to know people there. I am not reporting anything

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Speaker 6: because I don't know. But there are people, not just kids,

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Speaker 6: but adults in that program who are of the belief

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Speaker 6: that Jed had conversations with Florida and that shouldn't surprise anybody. Again,

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Speaker 6: I don't know enough to I'm not submitting any reports.

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Speaker 6: The real question for whether it's not Jed whether you

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Speaker 6: love Washington, it's if somebody offered you how many schools

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Speaker 6: or teams in the NFL, right, But let's just restrict

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Speaker 6: it to school. How many schools would you leave Washington

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Speaker 6: for if if you had a better contract, even a

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Speaker 6: dollar more? And nobody can ask them that he shouldn't

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Speaker 6: answer it. Only he knows and the people that he's

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Speaker 6: close to if he's divulge that. But as far as

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Speaker 6: gleaning anything out of comments, I think it's a fool's Errand.

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Speaker 2: I like Jed Fish.

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Speaker 1: I think he's leading the program in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: I certainly think this recruiting class is exceptional. And that's

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Speaker 1: you know, partially on him, partially on the finances that

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Speaker 1: the Huskies have, but really on him right now, and

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Speaker 1: I really have no super tangible complaints other than nitpicky

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Speaker 1: here on play calling in there, and we can go

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Speaker 1: into that a little bit more. It's if his coaching

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Speaker 1: resume said Weaber State head coach for ten years and

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Speaker 1: Colorado head coach for seven years, and he then came

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Speaker 1: to the University of Washington, I'd be thrilled, and I

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Speaker 1: think we'd have a guy for a decade plus. He is,

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Speaker 1: but he is saddled by the history of his constantly

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Speaker 1: jumping to other jobs. On one hand, I think that's

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Speaker 1: unfair because until until now, he's never had a top

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Speaker 1: twenty coaching job in America.

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Speaker 2: But on the other hand.

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Speaker 1: I think it is fair because there's been no concrete

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Speaker 1: indication that he or his family want to stay here

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Speaker 1: for a decade plus. And I think Husky Nation deserves

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Speaker 1: to have a football coach that wants to be in

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Speaker 1: Seattle for a decade plus.

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Speaker 2: I thought we had it a couple of years ago

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Speaker 2: in Kaitlin de Boor.

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Speaker 1: And maybe there's nobody that exists in America in today's

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Speaker 1: college football environment.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there's no person.

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Speaker 1: That exists that will stay at a place for ten

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Speaker 1: plus years.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's just the facts of the matter,