1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: It's Night's Eyes Dan, I'm going you easy Boston's news Radio. 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 2: Thanks Madison is always a great idea, particularly about this time, 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 2: eight oh seven at night head to Nightside. I want 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: to welcome everyone in. Rob Brooks, my partner in time, 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: the producer at WBZ for Nightside, is back in the 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: control room in beautiful Medford, Massachusetts. All he's actually really 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: at the heart of Medford, Massachusetts. All set to hinder 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: your phone calls beginning at nine o'clock. We are supposed 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: to be talking tonight at nine o'clock. I mean, the 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: big story of the day is the Brian Walsh murder 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: case with the defense, after having promised, in effect promised 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: that their client would take the witness stand, they chose 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: to present no witnesses, stunning, stunning case today and they 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: come back. We'll see what the jury does with this case. 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: We'll talk with Phil Tracy at nine o'clock and then 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: later on tonight we'll talk about a new trend in 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: restaurant downing where a lot of people now instead of 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: going out and having a couple of you know, each 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: having an entree, maybe one gets an entre, someone else 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: gets an app and they kind of split things up, 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: or they get a couple of apps, or maybe three 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: apps and just a different way to dine. We'll see 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: if maybe you've changed your dining habits as a result 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: of everything that has been going on around the country 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: for the last eleven months or so. My name is 26 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: Dan Ray. I'm the host of Night Side, and we 27 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: have four really interesting guests coming up, starting off with 28 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: Linda Matchett. Linda is the Boston Globe Correspondence. You're the 29 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: writer and editor for the Globe Santa. This is the 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: seventieth anniversary of the Globe Santa, almost as old as 31 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: I am. What a great program that helps thousands of 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: children each year and has been in continuous operation. I 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 2: guess since is it nineteen fifty six if I'm doing 34 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: my math correctly. 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: Linda, Yes, it is nineteen fifty six that Globe Santa 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: graded over from the from Post Santa, which was another 37 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: newspaper in one I was seven at that time in Boston, 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 3: and it folded, and there was a lot of worry 39 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 3: in the city, including in the Mayor's office, about who's 40 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: going to help these kids, Who's going to give them 41 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 3: toys of Christmas, if they're if their parents can't afford to, 42 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 3: and so the Boston Globes stepped up and something called 43 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 3: the Boston Globe Mayor Heinz Santa Fund was started, and 44 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: it had it was announced with a lot of fanfare 45 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: in the in the Globe, of course, a great undertaking 46 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: to see that no child in Greater Boston goes unremembered 47 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: on Christmas. 48 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: And Mayor John be Hindes, I think I covered that 49 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: news conference back then. 50 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 3: I might have been there too. 51 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: I don't love that. I doubt that. So over the 52 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: seventy years, how many children is there any sort of 53 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's not a count, but is there any 54 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 2: sort of an estimate as to how many children who 55 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: might have gone with a giftless Christmas actually found something 56 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: under their actual tree or their figurative Christmas tree. 57 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: Well, we say millions of children have been helped by 58 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: Globe Family, but to take it sort of year by year, 59 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: last year there were close to thirty thousand kids who 60 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: were helped from like seventeen thousand families. Yeah, so we 61 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: get letters from these families telling us that they're in need, 62 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: and we read every single one of them, and I 63 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: need a portion of them. We have a whole team. 64 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: And the way Gloves operates is that I or other 65 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 3: writers tell stories that are based on the letters to 66 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: really give readers sense of what is going on in 67 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: the city, why or in the greater Boston, why there 68 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: are so many people in need? And I have to say, 69 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: I've been doing this for five years. This has been 70 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: I think the toughest year, the saddest letters. And the 71 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 3: bar was already pretty high. 72 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: So so so let's go through the logistics. If there 73 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: are people out there who need help tonight, so they 74 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: write a letter to the Boston Globe. Now it's no 75 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: longer at Morrissey Boulevard, or maybe the press is No, 76 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: the presses aren't even there at Morrissey Boulevard. 77 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're downtown. So beginning in the fall, people who 78 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 3: are in in connection one way or another with the 79 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: Department of Transitional Assistance, either directly or through a social 80 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 3: service agency, or through a church or synagogue or or 81 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: a religious organization, they're told that they can write to 82 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 3: Globe Santa and their need is sanded. And they have 83 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 3: to be you know, they have to be sure that 84 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 3: they really. 85 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 4: Truly are in need sure. 86 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: And they they're given a form to fill out, and 87 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: it always starts with your Globe Santa, and people, even 88 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: children themselves poignant moving letters saying what the situations are. 89 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: Sometimes the kids write them themselves. Sometimes the parents. 90 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: Are able to so logistically what I'm trying to what 91 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: I'm trying to understand here, because I grew up in 92 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: Boston and we never had to depend upon the Globe Santa. 93 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: But there's no shame in that. So so the letters 94 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: come in and the child or the parent is asking 95 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: for a firetruck or a baseball bat or a what 96 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: are a doll? Right? Do you try to literally, what 97 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: do you do when is a specific request you try? 98 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 5: That's a really good question. 99 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: That's a really good question, and it's hard. Of course, 100 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: we can't fill fill seventeen thousand different requests, but. 101 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 6: We we have. 102 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 3: We go to toy Fair in February and we get it. 103 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: We take a reading of what is in demand this year, 104 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: what kids really want, what is educational, what they'll have 105 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: fun with but they won't get tired of, you know 106 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 3: what doesn't It's something very basic like what doesn't require 107 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: batteries so that they won't have to keep replacing them. 108 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 3: And some of the best books of the year that 109 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: have been chosen you know, that have won Caldecotta Awards 110 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: or others, and they divided into by age group and 111 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: by gender, and there's a number of different categories that 112 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: go out, but we for sure max to the kid's 113 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: age and their gender. 114 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: So then how how would they delivered? I can see 115 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: that if a church is sent in or ifglogue is 116 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: sent in fifty letters, all those could be booked off. 117 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: But just from a bulked up from a logistical point 118 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: of view, this has to be a tremendous undertaking. I 119 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: assume you must have people who volunteer or who help. 120 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: This is not something that you and your staff could do. 121 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: Do you need besides obviously contributions, which are always important, 122 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: do you need volunteers to help deliver these items? 123 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 3: We actually depend on. We have people who are contracted 124 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: to work with us. They set up an operation in 125 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: the Taunting facility, which, as you mentioned, is where the 126 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: printing presses are, and they're going day like long days, 127 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: packing boxes which are then delivered to USPS facilities and 128 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 3: they're delivered by by the Post Office to homes. We 129 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: make sure that they arrive on time for Christmas. Sometimes 130 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: they don't just I mean, sometimes people don't live in home, 131 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: sometimes are delivered to homeless shelters, but we follow up 132 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: and make sure every kid who asks gets their their gifts. 133 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you it's a great, great project. So 134 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: let's let's give us at an address. If any people 135 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: are listening tonight and would like to make a financial contribution, 136 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: which I'm sure you would welcome, where would they send 137 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: that and they make it out to what just the 138 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: Globe Santa Thank you so much. 139 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: All the information is spelled out on our website, which 140 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: is Boston Globe dot org. And it'll tell you how 141 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: to phone, how to make a telephone call, if you want, 142 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: where to send the money to, if you want to 143 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 3: write a check, how to do it online. That's how 144 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: to do it perfect. 145 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah. All we try to do here is to 146 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 2: is to give the information to people. So if anyone's 147 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: listening to this interview, I assume many people will be moved. 148 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: Boston Globe, Santa dot org. 149 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: I'm no going to just correct Thatta. 150 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: Globe Santa dot org. Okay, thanks for that correction, Globe 151 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: Santa dot org. Linda again, you're going to be very 152 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: busy I know that Santa and his elves are working 153 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: feverishly in the North Pole, and you're in direct contact 154 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 2: with them. So let us you have a lot of 155 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: elves who will help you out tonight and check out 156 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: Globe Santa dot org. Thanks so much for joining us tonight, Linda. 157 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: I really do believe you're doing God's work over there. 158 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much for having me on. 159 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 3: Thanks Logain more than welcome. 160 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: When we get back, we're gonna tell you a little 161 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: about Big Brothers Big Sisters of Central Mass and Metro 162 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: West hit a big milestone this year with more matches 163 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: so far this school year than in the previous ten years. 164 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: Big Brothers, Big Sister Sisters, great organization. This one is 165 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: in Central Mass and Metro West, and we will talk 166 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: with Connie Askin, she's the CEO of that organization. After 167 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: this break on a very cold, a very cold Thursday night. 168 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: It's probably as cold tonight here in New England as 169 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 2: it is at the North Pole. I'm sure of it. 170 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: We'll be back on Nightside right after this. 171 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news Radio. 172 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 2: Well, there are a lot of charities around, but I 173 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: think very few have the fabulous reputation of Big Brothers 174 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: and Big Sisters. We're going to talk with Connie Askin. 175 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: She's the CEO of Big Brothers Big Sisters of Central 176 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 2: Mass and Metro West. Connie, Welcome to Night's Side. You're 177 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: not the first Big Brothers Big Sister agency that we've 178 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: talked to, but you guys do such great work matching 179 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: Big Brothers and Big Sisters up with kids who need 180 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: someone to look up to in their lives. Tell us 181 00:10:54,960 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: about the mission, the general mission of Big Brothers Big Sisters. 182 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: I think most people know it, but there may be 183 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: a few out there who aren't exactly sure of what 184 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: we're talking about. Welcome to Nightside. 185 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 6: Thank you so much. Dan. Yes, Big Brothers Sig Sisters 186 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 6: has been around for a long time. We've been in 187 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 6: Central Mass and Metro West for sixty years. Nationally, we've 188 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 6: been around for one hundred and twenty years. It's really 189 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 6: a simple mission. We connect caring adults with children who 190 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 6: need an extra hand to hold and somebody who just 191 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 6: can be in their corner sharing them on. It's a 192 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 6: simple mission, but it's powerful. 193 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: It certainly is. You've been around for sixty years. How 194 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: many young people have you matched up with over that time, 195 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: It has to be a tremendous number. I know you've 196 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: just had a big year with one hundred and eighty matches, 197 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: but I assume over the course of the history of 198 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: Big Brothers Big Sisters of Central mass and Mentro West, 199 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: it has to be in the tens of thousands. 200 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, we think it's thirty thousand children that's have been impacted. 201 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 6: And this year, already the school year, we've made one 202 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 6: hundred and eighty eight new matches, so in total we'll 203 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 6: serve set one hundred and twenty five this year. We're 204 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 6: on a growth streak. 205 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: Give us an idea. I mean, I think everybody understands 206 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: the concept, but how much time is involved? What's the profile? 207 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: Let's start with the profile of your volunteers. What is 208 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: the age range of the Big Brothers Big Sisters. I 209 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 2: know there's no age limit, but what's the maximum range 210 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: where people either have the time as well as the 211 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: inclination to reach out and help someone who's younger than 212 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 2: they Maybe some of them had been Little Brothers and 213 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: Little Sisters themselves. Give us just a little profile of 214 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: who comes in the door as a volunteer. 215 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 6: Well, It's interesting because we have different programs in different sites, 216 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 6: so there are some high school students who are big 217 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 6: to younger children. We have a lot of college students 218 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 6: in the Worcester area who mentor at local elementary and 219 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 6: middle school. So Holy Cross alone has about one hundred 220 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 6: and sixty student athletes who mentor as bigs. Typically, though 221 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 6: we see anywhere from early thirties all the way to 222 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 6: eighty years old. You know, somebody can offer their wisdom 223 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 6: and their experience no matter what age they are, and 224 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 6: being a big with us, being a volunteer with us 225 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 6: means hanging out with a kid who is between the 226 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 6: ages of six and twenty five, a kid who might 227 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 6: be a little shy, or might be super creative, or 228 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 6: who might love dogs. The point is their children with 229 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 6: big dreams and who just just need that special, caring 230 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 6: adult to help them do life. 231 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: And the activities that you're involved in. I know, did 232 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: you help out the big brothers and the big sisters 233 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 2: in terms of taking kids to ball games or to 234 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: activities what some might want to be Some might be 235 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: roller skaters or ice skates, or other children might like 236 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 2: to go to the theater. You've have plenty of theaters 237 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: in the Worcester area, including one of my favorites, the 238 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 2: Hanover Theater. I'm assuming that a lot of the organizations 239 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 2: help out in terms of giving everyone access to great 240 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: activities in the Greater Worcester area. 241 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 6: We absolutely do have that. But you know, the most 242 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 6: important thing is a person's time. So I can give 243 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 6: examples of long matches and short matches. There's a match 244 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 6: who's been together just eight months, and the little has 245 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 6: been interested in books, so they often read books together. 246 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 6: Actually mostly the little reads the big. So that is 247 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:48,119 Speaker 6: the kind of activity that really multiplies a simple interaction, 248 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 6: build together to make a life changing relationship. It's really 249 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 6: about the consistency. 250 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: Some part, something as simple as a book is used 251 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: as the connective tissue, if you will, between the big 252 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: brother and the and in that case little brother, or 253 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: the big sister and the little sister. But I know 254 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: a little about about the organization, but I know that 255 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: sometimes you folks provide, say tickets to a college basketball game, 256 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: or a college hockey game, or for that matter, maybe 257 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: you know, a football game, whatever college football game, where 258 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: without the companionship of the big the the the little 259 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: brother or little sister might not be real comfortable to 260 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: go on their own, and this might be the best 261 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: person to bring them to an event and have them 262 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: see a Holy Cross football game or a holy Cross 263 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: basketball game for the first time in their lives. I mean, 264 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: that's to me the magic of these this organization. How 265 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: far off am I with that analysis? 266 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 6: No, you're You're one hundred percent right. And for the 267 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 6: college students to have the littles look up to them 268 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 6: and idolize them as they're out on the game field 269 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 6: is incredible. Sure we also get tickets to you know, 270 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 6: Celtics boxes and Red Sox boxes, and the WU Sox 271 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 6: and Worcester have been incredible partners to us, and in 272 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 6: fact their front office has been mentoring as a group 273 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 6: at a local elementary school in Worcester for the last 274 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 6: few years. So doing the sports is a way that 275 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 6: little and big can connect on the subway right into town. 276 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 6: Sometimes the littles have never been on the subway. 277 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: Well. For the for the first several years in Worcester, 278 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: my son Daniel was the general manager of the WU 279 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: Soax and I suspect that he was very much Yes, 280 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: he was very much involved in that. He actually also 281 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: between high school and college did a gap year for 282 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: City Year, another great organization in which young people volunteer 283 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: to interact with kids. So, you know, we're very familiar 284 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: with the activity. What can folks do if that if 285 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 2: they're interested. Such a walkable city and an easy city 286 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: to get around in. The parking is a lot easier. 287 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: I assume that you have volunteers that come from what 288 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: twenty thirty forty miles away, it's wor's easy access, easy park. 289 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 2: Tell us how folks can get in touch with you 290 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: and how far to some of your big brothers and 291 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: big sisters come to spend quality time with the little 292 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: brothers and little sisters. 293 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 6: Well, we'll do outings for sure, like for instance, the 294 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 6: Lister Art Museum has a new armory exhibit that people 295 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 6: are flocking to from all over. But usually we make 296 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 6: the matches. That's an easy driveable distance for both the 297 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 6: big and the little and they come from all over. 298 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 6: We serve eighty seven towns in cities in the middle 299 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 6: of Massachusetts, so the activities can be you know, in 300 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 6: act in Boxborough as well as in Worstern. 301 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's fine and sometimes sometimes that workscept but 302 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 2: you you make the geography work. My recollection is that 303 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: you're not just putting people's names in a hat. You're 304 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: trying to find commonalities geographic and and also uh interest 305 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: as well. Obviously, if someone has a is a musician 306 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: and as a child who's interested in music, music, that's 307 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: the that's the match. So thank you for what you do. 308 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 2: How can folks get in touch? Give us the website 309 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: in case people either want to contribute, support you financially, 310 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 2: or maybe even volunteer for the first time in their 311 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: lives or for the second or third time in their lives. 312 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: What's the what's the website? Connie. 313 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 6: The easiest place to find us is big CM dot org, 314 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 6: so that's for Central Mass big CM dot org. Volunteer 315 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 6: with us. Go to our website, learn more about us. 316 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 6: Email me I can talk to you about it. Come 317 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 6: to one of our events. It's really easy to plug 318 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 6: into our work, and I love introducing people to the 319 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 6: power of mentoring perfect. 320 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 2: Biggs CM dot org Connie ask it. Thank you very much. 321 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 2: I appreciate your time tonight. A great organization and a 322 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: great great role models. Congratulations to you and to everyone 323 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: associated with Big Brothers Big Sisters of Central Mass and MetroWest. 324 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 6: Thanks so much, Connie, thank you. 325 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: When we get back right after the news at the 326 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 2: bottom of the Era, we're going to be talking with 327 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 2: a couple of doctors. We're going to talk about a 328 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: tough flu season as well as later on our second guest, 329 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: we'll talk about the CDC dropping the newborn Hepatitis B recommendation, 330 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: leaving some parents or water parents with conflicting guidance. Back 331 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: on Nights with doctor David Hill, director of clinical research 332 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: at Waterbury Pulmonary Associates and volunteer medical spokesperson for the 333 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: American Lung Association. This is a tough flu season. If 334 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: you haven't gotten a flu shot, you may want to 335 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: rethink that that consideration. Doctor David Hill will explain. 336 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray, Boston's news Radio. 337 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 2: I'm back and I'm joined by doctor David Hill. Doctor 338 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 2: David Hill, welcome to night Side All Night. 339 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 5: Thanks for having me. 340 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: I see that you're a pulmonologist and director of clinical 341 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 2: research at Waterbury Paul Murray pull Mammary Associates. I'm assuming 342 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: that's Waterbury, Connecticut. 343 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 5: That is correct, just down the road in Waterbury. 344 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: Hometown of former Red Sox center field of Jimmy pearsall. Indeed, 345 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 2: indeed do you is he is he still remembered in Waterbury? 346 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, you know part of the Waterbury 347 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 5: Sports Hall of Fame. 348 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: So, oh absolutely, where Jackie Jensen was in right and 349 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: Ted Williams was in left and Jimmy pearsall about whom 350 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: they made the movie Fear Strikes Out. Yeah, that's the 351 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: one thing I know about Waterbury. Now I know, doctor 352 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: David Hill. So we're looking at a tough, a very 353 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: severe flu season, the worst in over a decade. Tell 354 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 2: us about it, doctor Hill. 355 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 5: No, we can really take what's coming by what's happening 356 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 5: in Europe in the UK, and they're having a very 357 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 5: severe early flu season there. What we're seeing actually here 358 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 5: in the Northeast. I'm attending in my hospital, Waterfir Hospital 359 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 5: this week and I have multiple patients hospitalized with influenza A. 360 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 5: Almost all of them are unvaccinated. So the message here 361 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 5: is the ideal time to get your flu shot is 362 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 5: September and October, but it is not too late. You 363 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 5: can go out and get your flu shot tomorrow and 364 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 5: you will be protecting your loved ones when you gather 365 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 5: for the holidays and protecting yourself as well. 366 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 2: How quickly does the flu shot. I know you get 367 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: it on a Monday, it doesn't impact you one hundred 368 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 2: percent right away. Give us some idea about that timeline. Obviously, 369 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: they say when's the best time to plant a tree? 370 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: Seven years ago, best time to get a flu shot 371 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: was in September. So if someone is going out tomorrow 372 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: and is convinced by what we're talking about now to 373 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 2: get a flu shot, when does that sort of start 374 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 2: to give you some protection. 375 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 5: You get about peak response two weeks later, so the 376 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 5: response is lasting. It does take a week or two 377 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 5: to really kick in. But again, if you're planning on 378 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 5: gathering with family on Christmas and family and friends on 379 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 5: New Year's tomorrow's still a good time to get that shot. 380 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: And how long I got my shot? My flu shot 381 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: in September, because I've always been under the impression that 382 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: the flu season runs September, October, November, December, January, and 383 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: February maybe into March. And that's the area when I 384 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: want to be protected. Is it about six months that 385 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 2: you get protected with a flu shot? Yeah? 386 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 5: Get you get six months or longer of protection. The 387 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 5: flu shot changes every year, primarily because the virus changes, 388 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 5: so you will get some lasting immunity from a shot, 389 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 5: but one shot for the vast majority of people should 390 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 5: cover them for the entire flu season. 391 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: Now, I'm not a medical person, nor do I play 392 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 2: one on the radio, but i do know a little 393 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: bit about this because I've had the pleasure to speak 394 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: within the benefit of speaking with folks like you over 395 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 2: the years. My understanding is that our flu is what 396 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 2: we build the flu shot on, is what happened in 397 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: the Southern Hemisphere during our summer last summer? Correct, And 398 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 2: how did we get what happens get surprised? How do 399 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: we get surprised with what's going on in Britain because 400 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 2: I read about this Britain stuff about three weeks ago, 401 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: and that's some nasty stuff floating around over there. Yeah. 402 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 5: So they do their best efforts to guess what's going 403 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 5: to circulate based on what circulated last year here and 404 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 5: what is circulating in the Southern hemisphere, you know, six 405 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 5: months before us. And sometimes the scientists who put this 406 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 5: together come up with a great match. But there is 407 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 5: a little bit of guesswork. The flu virus are constantly 408 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 5: recombining and mutating. So some years the flu vaccine is 409 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 5: a great match for what's circulating, and some years it 410 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 5: doesn't match quite as well. And the severity of the 411 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 5: flu virus itself in any year can differ. Even when 412 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 5: the vaccine matches well to it what we do know, 413 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 5: and even when people go out and say, oh, the 414 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 5: vaccine was only thirty or forty percent protective, that's a 415 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 5: thirty or forty percent decreased risk of getting really sick. 416 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 5: So even in years where it doesn't work well, it's 417 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 5: still the right idea to get the flu shot. 418 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: So clearly you referenced early on what's going on in 419 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: Britain or England. Is that always the predictor that we 420 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: look at, or is the outbreak? They are just a 421 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: little more intense this year, and that's really what has 422 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: our concerns raised. 423 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 5: I think that combined with what we're seeing early in 424 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 5: the flu season here. You know, so the world is 425 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 5: a much smaller place now than one hundred years ago, 426 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 5: so what's happening in Europe tends to come here fairly quickly. 427 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 5: And as I said earlier, here in the Northeast, we 428 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 5: are seeing an uptake in severe flu in hospitalizations so 429 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 5: we're concerned that this is going to be a rough 430 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 5: blue season for US. 431 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: I remember, and I might be wrong, but when COVID 432 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: hit here in the late twenty nineteen, and actually more 433 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 2: so in January, we had some outbreaks. My understanding that 434 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,239 Speaker 2: there had been an outbreak a little bit before that 435 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 2: in Milan. There was some sort of big fashion week 436 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: in Milan, and that became a real hotspot. Am I 437 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: correct in that recollection? 438 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? So back in you know, twenty twenty, when COVID 439 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 5: made its way to the US. You know, obviously the 440 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 5: initial description was in Asia, but then there were outbreaks 441 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 5: in Iran which became concerning to those of US with 442 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 5: the public health lens, followed by Italy UH, and then 443 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 5: the first cases here in the States, first on the 444 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 5: West coast, but then it sort of hit everywhere. 445 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it hit up in the state of Washington. 446 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: So is there anywhere we're the reason I asked that 447 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: question as a predicate to this question, and is there 448 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: something going on in Europe or England, uh, which which 449 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 2: resulted in a spate of activity that that we're now 450 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: concerned about. I'm just trying to drill down a little 451 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 2: bit on this or is it just a general influence 452 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,719 Speaker 2: a wave in England, which obviously is a relatively small 453 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: geographic location with fairly compact, particularly in major cities over there, 454 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 2: compact living circumstances that has that has caused us to 455 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: be concerned. 456 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's the latter. There's just been a 457 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 5: you know, a pretty significant wave of flu activity both 458 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 5: in the UK and Europe, and we're anticipating seeing that 459 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 5: here and again, the best thing people can contect themselves 460 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 5: first and foremost is getting vaccinated against the flu. 461 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 2: And since I have you, I'm just going to ask 462 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: you one other question, which I think is important. And 463 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: five years out from COVID, I get a sense that 464 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: we're becoming a little complacent about COVID and maybe a 465 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 2: little complacent about flu. A couple of years ago, the 466 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,239 Speaker 2: speculation was that everybody would be able to get a 467 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: combined COVID flu shot those who wanted them, but that 468 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: hasn't materialized. Is the inconvenience of still getting the two 469 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 2: separate shots starting to wear on people? Do you believe. 470 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 5: I think that is. I think there's a lot of 471 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 5: misinformation about vaccines being circulated on the internet, and some 472 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 5: of it by people in power as well. I know 473 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 5: in Massachusetts, the last data I have is, you know, 474 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 5: less than ten percent of the population has got it 475 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 5: in the latest COVID shot, and only about a third 476 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 5: of the overall population has gotten flu vaccine. And those 477 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 5: numbers are too low. We need we need people to 478 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 5: get vaccinated because that protects everyone. 479 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that's the herd. That's the herd mentality, you know, 480 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 2: the herd theory. I should say, not herd mentality, the 481 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,479 Speaker 2: herd theory. The more people vaccinated. But that is kind 482 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: of a sad commentary for Massachusetts because we have as 483 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: well as Connecticut, between your great schools and universities and hospitals, 484 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: we have a wat here as well. And you would 485 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: think that in a in a state like Massachusetts, that 486 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: would be a very high number, because I'll bet you 487 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: if you compare that to some of the other states 488 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: who are who have less medical facilities there, some of 489 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: those states in other regions of the country are probably 490 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: even lower. So a word to the wise, doctor Hill. 491 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: Really pleasure to talk with you. I enjoyed our conversation. 492 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: We don't script questions here on nights side, and whenever 493 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: I know a little bit about a subject I like 494 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: to drill down a little bit. And thanks thanks for 495 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: answering my questions. It was really helpful for me and 496 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: hopefully for everyone in our audience. 497 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 5: Sure, I really appreciate being on the show. Certainly, the 498 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 5: American Lung Association has information if anyone wants to learn 499 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 5: more about vaccines for respiratory diseases, if you go to 500 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 5: lung dot org slash vaccines. That's a great place to 501 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 5: get some information. 502 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: That's great, and it gave me an opportunity to mention 503 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 2: the name of the late great Jimmy Piersoll doesn't happen 504 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: often anymore. Thanks very much, doctor Hill. 505 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 5: Appreciate that he it's the first. 506 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: Major League baseball player I ever got an autograph and 507 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: a picture with. That's why I remember him so well. 508 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: Really quite a nice guy, very funny guy as well. 509 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, doctor. 510 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 5: Hill, or thank you a great night. 511 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: Good night. We get back when we talk about the 512 00:29:54,480 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: CDC decision to drop the newborn Hepatitis B recommendations somewhat controversial, 513 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: leaving parents with conflicting guidance. Going to talk with doctor 514 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: Charles Hannam. He's a pediatrician, General pediatrician at Tuft's Medical Center, 515 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: back with doctor Charles Hannam, and that is our last 516 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: interview on this hour. We will move on to topics 517 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 2: including the Brian Walsh the case murder case in which 518 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: the defense today unexpectedly rested without calling a single witness. 519 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that after the nine o'clock news, but 520 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 2: we have in the on deck circle carrying the baseball 521 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: commentary is similar Doctor Charles Hanham coming up right after this. 522 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's News Radio. 523 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: Delighted to welcome doctor Chaz Hanham. His first name is Charles, 524 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: but it goes by Chazz. Doctor Chaz Handham. Welcome to Nightside. 525 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: How are you, sir? I'm doing well. 526 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 4: Thanks? How were you? Dan? 527 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: You're a general pediatrician at top Medical Center. I'm doing great. 528 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: Always great to talk to folks from the medical community. 529 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: And there was a decision recently by the CDC, the 530 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: Center of a Disease Control, which dropped the newborn hepatitis 531 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: B recommendation. That's a fairly controversial decision. What sort of 532 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 2: an impact do you think that's going to have? And 533 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: this certainly is going to be some confusion what are 534 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: most pediatricians telling their their their patients. Obviously their patients 535 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: are infants, so telling the parents of their patients the 536 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: great question. 537 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 4: There's there's a lot going pack with the recommendation, and 538 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 4: I think the biggest takeaway is that we're likely not 539 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 4: going to change our recommendations, I think with the with 540 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 4: the biggest impetus for that being that there's really not 541 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 4: a great evidence based reason for the change that came 542 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 4: into the play last week. And you know, us as 543 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 4: pediatricians and I think in the medical community in general, 544 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 4: really try to use evident to guide the decisions we make, 545 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 4: even if that may be that there's uncertainty of how 546 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 4: safe it is and you know, modifying the risks and 547 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 4: the benefits of humanization practices and discussing that with families. 548 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 4: But overall, the American Academy of Pediatrics of the AAP, 549 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 4: which we refer it to as the governing body of 550 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 4: pediatricians in the country, and I think we are going 551 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 4: to be looking to them a lot more now for 552 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 4: guidance on the best ways to protect our patients and 553 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 4: really discussing that with our families and unfortunately not necessarily 554 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 4: recommending what the CDC is proposing. 555 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 2: Here's my question. I understand the influence that the Healthy 556 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: Human Human Service, as Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior, has, 557 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: and I do know that there are people in this 558 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 2: country who are skeptical above vaccines. And I know that vaccines, 559 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: you know, nothing is ever guaranteed, but obviously over time 560 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 2: hepatitis B has been effective. Where does this this skepticism 561 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: spring from? 562 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 4: That is a really hard question to answer in a 563 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 4: short amount of time. Sure, I think the biggest choice 564 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 4: in the you know, the thing that we really want 565 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 4: to make sure that people recognize that has existed since 566 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 4: immunization and vaccination has has been around, is we want 567 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 4: to have a conversation with people about the risks and 568 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 4: the benefits of that and have people make informed decisions, 569 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 4: I know, about their health, the health of their children, 570 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 4: and us as pediatricians, you know, hoping that people can 571 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 4: recognize the expertise and the science that we bring to 572 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 4: the decisions you know about immunizations and vaccination in particular. 573 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 4: And I think the challenge that a lot of us 574 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 4: have is, you know, where does where does that feeling 575 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 4: come from? Unfortunately, it's not new, It's been around for 576 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 4: one hundred of hundred, one hundred years essentially since smallpox 577 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 4: as one of the first vaccines, has existed, where people 578 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 4: are feeling that they're forced to do things that may 579 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 4: not be what they consider to be safe or effective. 580 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 4: And I think a lot of the decisions we make 581 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 4: and the kind of public health sphere, but also just 582 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 4: as pediatricians, comes down to trying to, you know, discuss 583 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 4: with parents and patients what's best for them, but also 584 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 4: bringing in the lens of what's best for the community, 585 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 4: what's best for our country, what's best for our neighborhood, 586 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 4: And that I think is where a lot of the 587 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 4: skepticism concerns really are more prioritizing the individual over the 588 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 4: public health policy that we know is going to protect 589 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 4: more people on average that we want to make sure 590 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 4: that we can, you know, balance that with individual rights 591 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 4: and parents' choice. And it's it's a hard place to be. 592 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: So what do you say to a perspective. You know 593 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 2: a parent who says, gee, I've read all this stuff 594 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: about these Hepatitis B shots, and I have some concerns. 595 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 2: You obviously have to assuage their concerns, and I don't 596 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 2: want you to do the entire presentation. But what is 597 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 2: the strongest argument that a doctor will summon you know what, 598 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 2: what can you say to a parent who's who is hesitant, 599 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: maybe a little skeptical, but at least is open minded 600 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 2: enough to listen to what you say. What do you 601 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: say to that parent. I'm not talking about the parent 602 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 2: who says no, the my kids not taking any shots 603 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 2: or any think the person who you know you're not 604 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 2: going to be able to change their mind. What do 605 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 2: you say to someone who at least will listen to you. 606 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a that's a great question. And I think 607 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 4: you know, generally speaking, most people are willing to ask 608 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 4: questions and we're willing to answer them. And that's I 609 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 4: think a really important part of this conversation, and I'm 610 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 4: happy to talk about how I might approach it. The 611 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 4: general sense I would bring is that, you know, hepatitis 612 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 4: BE screening, for example, the recommendation is that if a 613 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 4: mom is hepatitis BE negative, which is part of routine 614 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 4: prenatal screening, you know that the hepatitis B vaccine is 615 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 4: not going to be something they would recommend at birth. 616 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 4: And I think there's there's some kind of things to 617 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 4: understand about the timeline of how that testing works, and 618 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 4: I would let parents know often you know that testing 619 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 4: is just one isolated point in time, and sometimes tests 620 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 4: are wrong, or sometimes tests aren't done, and so it's 621 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 4: important to recognize that there may still be a very 622 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 4: small risk of the infant contracting hepatitis B, maybe not 623 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 4: from the mom if we know that they're negative, but 624 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 4: potentially from somewhere out in the community or from other 625 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 4: family members, and the risk is quite small. I have 626 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 4: to admit that, and I think that's important to kind 627 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 4: of recognize that there are limitations to our advice. And 628 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 4: you know, generally speaking, hepatitis B is transmitted via blood, 629 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 4: but can come from other secretions. And we're not testing 630 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 4: everybody who's at home living with you know, a patient 631 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 4: or infant. We're not testing people that are. 632 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 5: At dacating people at schools. 633 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 4: You don't know this. You know the appetitis be status 634 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 4: of some party that goes to preschool with you. And 635 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 4: so I think from a you know, a protection standpoint, 636 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 4: we know the vaccine is very safe from decades of 637 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 4: safety and efficacy work, we know that it's effective, and 638 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 4: for us, it's kind of we just want to do 639 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 4: what is best, which is, even if the risk is small, 640 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 4: we want to try to reduce that even as much 641 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 4: as we can. And that's where I think evidence suggests 642 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 4: that that that's still the best choice. 643 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: And what is the If the parent says to you, 644 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 2: I'll play the role of the parent here, Well, well, 645 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 2: I get it, and I understand it, but I think 646 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to risk it. What do you say to 647 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: them and to make them aware that if they don't 648 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 2: get the hepatitis shot for their child and the child 649 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 2: is subsequently affected, how dangerous is that to the child? 650 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 2: And can anything be done to reverse that once the 651 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 2: child's infected. 652 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a that's a great talking point that I 653 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 4: often don't bring up immediately, I think, but I think 654 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 4: Hepatitis B in particular is a vaccine preventable disease, and 655 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 4: when children, especially young infants, get it in infancy but 656 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 4: even through childhood, the risk of that progressing to a 657 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 4: really severe chronic illness is really high, kind of upwards 658 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 4: to ninety percent or so. So, you know, an infant 659 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 4: who gets hepatitis B, they've got a ninety percent or 660 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 4: higher chance of likely having liver failure, cirrhosis, liver cancer 661 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 4: at the adult and it's something that we can't care. 662 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 4: There's no treatment for appetitis B, and so it really 663 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 4: comes down to, you know, it's a risk adjustment that 664 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 4: we're trying to do. It really hard to see, like 665 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 4: what's life going to look like fifty years in the 666 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 4: future for your infant, especially for your parents, you know, 667 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 4: twenty four hours of birth. It's like, oh my gosh, 668 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 4: I need to make these big decisions. But ultimately, you know, 669 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 4: our job is to try to say there are some 670 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 4: risks here and again we can do something about it. 671 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 4: And and I think that's really some of the powerful 672 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 4: tools that we use of you know, we don't thankfully 673 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 4: see heppatitis be complications that often, and that is because 674 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 4: of the vaccine. 675 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 2: And you know, you had done a great job in 676 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 2: the thing way to me and to my audience. I 677 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 2: know that a lot of these conversations as we won 678 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 2: on one, this was much more than a one on 679 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 2: one conversation tonight, But I thank you do a great job. 680 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 2: Is there somewhere that people can go and get reliable 681 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 2: information on this that you would recommend, whether they're a 682 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 2: grandparent or an aunt or an uncle and they might 683 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 2: want to learn about it so they can weigh in 684 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 2: with the with the parents along with the doctors. 685 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, there's there's some great resources. I think. Unfortunately, 686 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 4: the CDC is not really trustworthy in my opinion anymore 687 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 4: so the American Academy of Pediatrics the AAP. They've got 688 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 4: a great website designed for patients, families and i'm really 689 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 4: designed for parents. It's called Healthy Children dot org. And 690 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 4: then there's another really great vaccine website called the Vaccine 691 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 4: Education Center. It's out of the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia 692 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 4: and really gets a deep, deep dive into vaccine components, 693 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 4: safety risks, the benefits. It's one of the best I 694 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 4: think online resources that exist to really help promote and 695 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 4: answer questions that people have that are going to be 696 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 4: one of them to be well informed about. So i'd 697 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 4: recommend those two. 698 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 2: Doc Doctor Chess Hannah, thank you very much for your 699 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 2: time tonight. I'd love to have you back. You're very 700 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 2: good communicator, which is what people need at that particular 701 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 2: time in their lives. Thanks so much, and I hope 702 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 2: you have a great Christmas season. 703 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 5: Thank you you too. 704 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 2: All Right, me back with attorney Field Tracy, and we're 705 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 2: going to talk about this case, the Bryan Walsh murder case. 706 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 2: The defense rested today without calling a witness, coming back 707 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 2: on Nightside right after the nine o'clock news