WEBVTT - 10-22-25 Lance with Charlie Goldsmith

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>My first guest covers the Reds and the Bengals with

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie's chalkboard. You can get an email to you daily

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<v Speaker 2>for free through Substack. Also rad him at Fox nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. He's a regular contributor to Fox nineteen now

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<v Speaker 2>Digital shows. We welcome in Charlie Goldsmith. Charlie I said

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<v Speaker 2>earlier today, the more Joe Flacco talks, the more interesting

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<v Speaker 2>I find him. I wonder what has most impressed you

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<v Speaker 2>about him since his arrival.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the fact that he feels like he's done this before.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just walking around the building, the way he fits in,

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<v Speaker 1>the way dropping back in the pocket, he seems to

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly where to go, the way that he's turned

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<v Speaker 1>an incredibly bizarre, for lack of a best term experience

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<v Speaker 1>of coming into a new team and becoming a starter

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<v Speaker 1>and just popping right up and saying all right, let's go,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do this. And this will never be totally normal.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's not gonna get a full training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>but it feels like everyone's reached a point now where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, yep, we know the drill, we're rolling, We're going,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what it's going to look like for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody expects them to rush for six

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<v Speaker 2>point two yards to carry every game from here on out.

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<v Speaker 2>But can the run game the success they found Thursday night?

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<v Speaker 2>Can that be replicated or is that more of a

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<v Speaker 2>one off because of the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 1>I went through all the runs and all the most

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<v Speaker 1>notable runs especially, and all those plays, you can see

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Brown just doing remarkable things. And like, Chase Brown

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<v Speaker 1>is in Jamar Chase, But you know how, we just

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<v Speaker 1>expect Jamar to do remarkable things every week as long

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<v Speaker 1>as he has a quarterback who can functionally get him

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. Well, as long as Chase Brown has a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback who can functionally run the offense and make defenses,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, play certain coverages and do this and that schematically,

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<v Speaker 1>then yeah, I think Chase Brown is a guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>more than talented enough to break a lot of tackles,

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<v Speaker 1>to break off one or two big runs a game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's those explosive that really rack up the average, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's just who Chase is. When it's any sort of

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<v Speaker 1>functional offense. I think it wasn't even anything schematic. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think by having Flaco Chase Brown gets to be

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<v Speaker 1>in self again.

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<v Speaker 2>You wrote an excellent story earlier in the week, or

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<v Speaker 2>may have been tail end of last week about this

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<v Speaker 2>defense being young by choice, Charlie. That feels like something

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<v Speaker 2>a rebuilding team would do as opposed to a team

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<v Speaker 2>and contention. Does it say more about the youth or

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<v Speaker 2>say more about the reality of their veterans.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if they wanted to, they could be starting Logan

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson Orrin Burkes. You know Cam Taylor, BRIT's a fourth

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<v Speaker 1>year veteran. They could be starting all of these older players,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the veterans. You know, you look at Cam,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at Geno Stone. I think Logan Wilson has

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<v Speaker 1>been fined, but put them in this group as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Just have regressed. And that's concerning for a defense that

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<v Speaker 1>was counting on some semblance of veteran presence to lead

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<v Speaker 1>an otherwise young unit through the hide lows, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know Barret Carter, Demetrius Knight, Josh Newton, Volph Murphy, Samar Stewart, who,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, played a very poor game against the

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers that hasn't been talked much about, but he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of quietly got his role reduced significantly, not quite benched,

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<v Speaker 1>but that happened with Schamorrow over the course of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's life. When you're playing that many young players,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about what you expect, So there should be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of attention on man, these veterans are letting the

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<v Speaker 1>defense down significantly because those are the guys you thought

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be able to count on.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie, you study these guys, and you've studied cam Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>Britt for a couple of years. How do you begin

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<v Speaker 2>to explain the fall off of a guy who at

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<v Speaker 2>one point looked like an emerging core player to now

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<v Speaker 2>being inactive.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a massive organizational loss. Like I know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't expect the Bengals to, you know, be in the

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<v Speaker 1>divisional round this year. Maybe they do it for our

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<v Speaker 1>comes back, but these are the types of developments that

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<v Speaker 1>cost you Divisional AFC Championship game. When you have a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's supposed to be a corner giving you a

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<v Speaker 1>matchup advantage against Josh Allen and it turns out doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>even have a place on the field. It reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>of a pitcher who just can't find the strike zone

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<v Speaker 1>and the way that that leads to an individual I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to use the word spiring, but snowballing would

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<v Speaker 1>be the word I'm going for, because then you start

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do so much. And Cam it's just been

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<v Speaker 1>such a hyper active player as opposed to just locking

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<v Speaker 1>in on the fundamentals, the details. He's trying to use

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<v Speaker 1>another baseball analogy. You know, hit an eight run homer

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<v Speaker 1>when he steps up to the plate, and then when

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<v Speaker 1>he's over ten, then he's trying to hit a sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>run homer. And he keeps digging and digging and digging

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<v Speaker 1>that hole. And you know, now today he's working on

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<v Speaker 1>special teams. I mean, this is seemingly how it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be with him going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>You also had an excellent piece about the possibilities of

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<v Speaker 2>Jamar Chase and receptions, and I mean, if it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>funny to say out loud, but twenty catches isn't out

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<v Speaker 2>of the realm of possibility at a game Jays, isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the stats in front of me, Blake,

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<v Speaker 1>He's already one of six players in NFL history to

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<v Speaker 1>have two games of fourteen catches and one of eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>players to have I believe more than like however, many

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<v Speaker 1>games of ten plus catches, but he's already proven that

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<v Speaker 1>he can get the ball as well as any receiver

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of the league at that level on

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<v Speaker 1>a consistent basis. Sixty catches on Thursday, there were two

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<v Speaker 1>catches overturned by replay, there were two so called drops,

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<v Speaker 1>there were two defensive pass interference, Like he legitimately could

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<v Speaker 1>have gotten twenty four catches. It was a really like

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<v Speaker 1>they're all fun, but this was a really fun story work,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just wanted our asking people how many could

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<v Speaker 1>Jamark get, like twenty twenty five? Thirty? Oh cool? Thirty

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<v Speaker 1>was crazy. My answer after doing this deep dive and

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<v Speaker 1>talking to people is twenty five. Part of that too,

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<v Speaker 1>is the big thing with Jamar this year is they've

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<v Speaker 1>remade the screen game and that's really helped him.

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<v Speaker 2>You have the you've had your finger on the on

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<v Speaker 2>the pulse of this team through ups and downs over

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<v Speaker 2>the years. I wonder about the vibe now and the

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<v Speaker 2>is there a true sense of found juice and now

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<v Speaker 2>possibilities for this team.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the power of Flacco just in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of everyone feels like they can do their job again

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<v Speaker 1>and operate in exactly the way I was described with

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Brown. But I also want to be a little

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<v Speaker 1>cautious too, because, like you know, Joe Fla will look

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty twelve Joe flaccol the other day. He's still

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<v Speaker 1>going to take a lot of stats. He's still going

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<v Speaker 1>to abandon downs by throwing the ball away too quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Turnovers have been his biggest problem over the last few seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't seen any yet, and that will probably come.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, Flacco's probably what the twenty fifth ish

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<v Speaker 1>best quarterback in football, and he's performed at the top

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<v Speaker 1>ten level over the last couple of weeks. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have some concern as the pass rushers get more daunting,

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<v Speaker 1>as you face some sticky secondaries, as Slacker himself just

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<v Speaker 1>has games where he's not humming, where he's not rolling.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something they'll have to guard against. That will be

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<v Speaker 1>the challenge they face during the second half of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now, Flacco has brought juice back to an

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<v Speaker 1>organization that had no juice, and that is worth a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Try to I gotta drop a reds question too before

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<v Speaker 2>I let your run always great catch it up. I

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<v Speaker 2>talked to La last night. I'll ask you what, in

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<v Speaker 2>your mind, what is Elie's best position for him and

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<v Speaker 2>this team in twenty twenty six, And do you get

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<v Speaker 2>a sense that is an internal conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a conversation. I'm going to be at the

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<v Speaker 1>GM meetings in a couple of weeks, and that's my

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<v Speaker 1>number one question because you know, when I asked a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks though, I think those conversations hadn't yet

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<v Speaker 1>been had. I think the underdiscussed Sure, you could very

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<v Speaker 1>well talk me into Elie playing center, but the underdiscussed

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<v Speaker 1>part of this is where the heck with the then

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<v Speaker 1>find another middle endfielder because Edwin Oriyo. We like Edwin Arroyo,

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<v Speaker 1>but the plan would not be to just plug Edwin

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<v Speaker 1>into a spot in twenty twenty six. We like Avin

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<v Speaker 1>Lux you know, I think he's a polished hitter, but

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<v Speaker 1>the limitation t show defensively. The plan would not be

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<v Speaker 1>McLain at short, luckst second, you know, is it Stewart

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<v Speaker 1>at second? Like? Where are you finding that second basement?

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<v Speaker 1>If the Reds can find that and target that and

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<v Speaker 1>move pieces around and get Elliot center, Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 1>you could talk me into that. You can also talk

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<v Speaker 1>me into the fact that they just don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>way to find realistically that type of player. So the

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<v Speaker 1>best combination that they can come up with still when

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<v Speaker 1>include Elliot's short We'll see, you know, we'll see. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just the true answer on that, the most

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<v Speaker 1>accurate thing I can report, and we'll see how the

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<v Speaker 1>market unfolds.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie, tell everybody what you've got cooking and where they

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<v Speaker 2>can read watch follow along?

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<v Speaker 1>You hit it off the top Charlie Stockboard, substat Fox nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a fun time of year ago, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So with the Bengals, we know who they are. Again

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned some Reds off season stuff. So thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>having me.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. Always good catching up. Hope we can

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<v Speaker 2>do it again soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, Charlie Goldsmith Charlie's Chalkboard. How about that

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<v Speaker 2>for a jam packed, informative ten minutes plus with Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>G very much enjoy it.