1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: It's nice side. I'm doing you easy Boston's news Radio. 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: Well, I am delighted to welcome to Nightside my good 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: friend of many, many, many years, Jordan Rich, colleague here 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: at wb Z. Jordan, I can't say welcome back because 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: you haven't been away. Everybody here's you doing Connois's Corner 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: and now streaming the BS book Club The Upside. So 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: welcome back to Nightside. We haven't had you on Nightside 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: for a couple of years. 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's great. Thank you for the invitation. I 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 3: really appreciate it's great to be back. 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: Our pleasure. And with you is a friend who I 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: don't know, but has been a friend of you for 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: quarter century. John to Chico, John, welcome to Nightside. Any 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: friend of Jordan's, as they say, it's a friend of mine. 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 4: Thank you, Ray, it's a pleasure to be here. 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: You call me by my first name, Okay, Dan. 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 4: Now what did I say? Oh my god? 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: You call me Ray. Just don't call me late for dinner. 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 3: John, I've got two first names too, Dan, don't forget. 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 2: Absolutely you got We're the two first name club, right, 21 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: absolutely so. So Jordan, you were dealing. Let's get this 22 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: right out in the open here. You have been dealing 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: with Parkinson's now for a little over two years. 24 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be officially three years in October, since the diagnosis. 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: Two years and a few months here. The first thing 26 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: I know my audience wants to know is how are 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: you doing medically physically at this point, two years and 28 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: a few months into this this situation. 29 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for asking, and I'm happy to say 30 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: that I'm still standing. I've got all my limbs working well, 31 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: and as far as I know, I haven't lost too 32 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: much off my memory and other fastballs up in my brain. 33 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: But I'm doing relatively well. I mean I do have 34 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: bad I should say bad. I do have less fulfilling 35 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 3: days physically. It comes with the territory. And this is 36 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: the kind of condition. I won't call it a disease. 37 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: I'll call it a condition that really doesn't give you 38 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: a vacation. You know, it'd be nice to say, take 39 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: a day off Parkinson's, but it doesn't. So you have 40 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: to be very vigilant, as I've come to discover, and 41 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: I know we'll talk a little bit about what John 42 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 3: and I worked on book project. But I'm doing relatively well. 43 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 3: I mean I do fatigue pretty easily, as I never 44 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: did before. But I'm keeping a full schedule for the 45 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: most part, and you know, still love working at WBZ. 46 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: So the book is called Jordan's Rich Journey, obviously play 47 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: on the name Jordan Rich, A path of purpose, strength 48 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: and hope with Parkinson's John You. I ended up writing 49 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 2: the book. You were helped along the way with a 50 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: colleague who we wanted to at least acknowledge tonight, Robert 51 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: Cuomo as the contributing author of this book. You and 52 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: he collaborated. I believe it's on three books. And sadly 53 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: you lost this great friend a year. Is it a 54 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 2: year or so? Now? Was it November twenty. 55 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 4: Well, actually he went in for an operation, yeah, and 56 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 4: that was in I believe that was in May of 57 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 4: twenty four, and unfortunately I just had a bad feeling 58 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 4: about it. I can't explain why, Dan, but I just 59 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 4: didn't feel right. And it was a back operation. He 60 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: had the best doctors at the Mash General, and long 61 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: story shot contracted bacteria and ultimately ended up not being 62 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 4: able to fight aeumonia. Back and forth to rehab and 63 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 4: so forth, and Sally in November he passed and we 64 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: wrote three wonderful books together. 65 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: Okay, well again he gets he gets a credit tonight 66 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: and hopefully he's in a better spot listening to our 67 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: to our conversation tonight, John, I hope I want to 68 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: get to the overriding theme. I also want to get 69 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: people an opportunity to call in and talk with Jordan. Jordan, 70 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: I remember when you called me it would have been 71 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: I think in December or January of December of twenty 72 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 2: three or twenty four and told me what you were 73 00:04:55,320 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: dealing with. And you used to be always very kind 74 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: and gracious and allow me to have some nice holidays off. 75 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: But the one thing that I think when this disease 76 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: hits you, there's this fatigue involved. And you said to 77 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: me at the time that you could not do a 78 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: four hour talk show, which kind of framed it pretty 79 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: well for me. What are the what's the toughest part? 80 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: I know that there's some positives. You're athletically, much more active, 81 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: maybe than you've ever been. I think you're in as 82 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: I understand that in the in the best shape of 83 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: your life. Physically, You're no, I'm serious. You have you 84 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 2: have taken up boxing. You know not to box in 85 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: the ring in six round or ten round fights, but 86 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: uh to, uh to, to basically keep your body as 87 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: strong as as you can be. Tell us what the 88 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: toughest part of it is, and then what have you 89 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: found has worked for you? 90 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 4: Sure? 91 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: And I know that you've been in contact with John 92 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: throughout this entire process, So if John wants to jump 93 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: in here, he's more than welcome as well. But the 94 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: name of the book is Jordan's Rich Journey, So I 95 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 2: want people to understand it and maybe buy this book 96 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: because it's pretty inspirational. 97 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: Well, and thank you, Dan, And also part of the 98 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 3: proceeds are going to two wonderful organizations, one of which 99 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 3: i'll highlight now because it's the reason I'm doing well, 100 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: and that's a place called One ten Fitness in Rockland, Massachusetts, 101 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 3: south of Boston and founded by gentlemen I have great 102 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: respect for, an admiration for Brett Miller, and his story 103 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 3: is interwoven through my story. But you ask what's the 104 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: toughest for me? The toughest and everybody might have a 105 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: different answer because it's a snowflake situation with Parkinson's, everyone's 106 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 3: path is sort of different in everyone's symptoms. I wouldn't 107 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 3: say everyone's, but they vary, so mine, unfortunately for me, 108 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: because it takes me out of the moment, is rigidity 109 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: and stiffness, muscle stiffness, and I've been working very, very 110 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: hard to try to mitigate that, and I'm using everything 111 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: at my disposal just to get more comfortable and get 112 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: through the day. Because pain, as many of our listeners 113 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: know and anyone will know, if you live long enough, 114 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: pain is a tendency to keep you occupied if you're 115 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: not unless you're mister Spock, you can't really dull the 116 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: pain by thinking it away. It's there all the time. 117 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: So that's been it. But the exercise, and along with 118 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: medication and diet and good sleep and when I can 119 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: get it, the exercise has been the savior. And that's 120 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: the number one I don't want to say treatment, but 121 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: I will say creepment. It's the number one way to 122 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: ensure that you're going to at least keep things at 123 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 3: bay and feel good. So I owe a lot to 124 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: the exercise. And that keeps my muscles smoother and more relaxed. 125 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: And hey, you know, there are many worse things. I 126 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: am no hero by any stretchedy imagination. I would love 127 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,119 Speaker 3: John note of comment on how this came about because 128 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: he approached me and I let him tell the story, 129 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: and I was at first reticent because I didn't think 130 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: I had anything to offer. I was scared, I was upset. 131 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: I went through the five stages of grief that everyone 132 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: seems to go through, and then John came along. John, 133 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: do you want to tell the story from your vantage point? 134 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 5: Sure? 135 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 4: Sure? I think the important thing to recognize here is that. 136 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 6: I write. 137 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 4: I'm a teacher and I write books, and I'm very, 138 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 4: very strong on leadership. I love to write about leadership 139 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 4: and what takes a good lead either and I looked 140 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 4: for different people to do that, and a simple phone 141 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 4: call I made almost a quarter of a century ago 142 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 4: to Jordan Rich came from the fact that I actually 143 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 4: was a professor at Curry, and I found out in 144 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 4: further conversations that he graduated from Curry. And I said, 145 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 4: oh my god, why don't you come into one of 146 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 4: my classes and talk about leadership? And Jordan's the man 147 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 4: that he is, said to me, I'll tell you what 148 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 4: you do that. I mean, I'll do that if you 149 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 4: come in and speak at one of my night shows 150 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 4: on leadership. And I said, okay. He said, the only 151 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 4: thing is you're going to come here around midnight. So anyway, 152 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 4: what had happened was that we really got to be 153 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: good friends. He would take a shower after work, come 154 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 4: into my class, talk to my class. And I said, 155 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 4: this is what leadership is all about. It's about someone 156 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 4: that is able to motivate others just by his voice. 157 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 4: Thousands of people he has interviewed over the years, and 158 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 4: here he is in my class, with every aspect of 159 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 4: humility that you could ever want to ask. And I 160 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 4: said to them, how can I pay you back for 161 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 4: talking on your show? They said, donate the Children's hospital 162 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 4: by Jordan. 163 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: That's what you say, Yes, give. 164 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: A donation or do something. And I'm thinking, after all 165 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 4: these years and I found out he had Parkinson's. I 166 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 4: came to him when he was in I don't want 167 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: to say the lowest of low, but he was angry. 168 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 4: He was upset that why me, Why am I being 169 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 4: take it out of this element? Not that he was 170 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 4: a victim, but because he couldn't do the way what 171 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 4: he loved to do, the way he loved to do it. 172 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 4: I said, well, I'll tell you what I want to 173 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 4: give you. Something back. Let's say Bob and I write 174 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: a book about that, and then, by the way, that's 175 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 4: when Bob was still around. I would say we probably 176 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: threw ideas around for maybe six months or so back 177 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 4: and forth with Jordan, shortly before Bob passed. 178 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: Well, gentlemen, let me do this. As Jordan well knows, 179 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: we've got to occasionally take a commercial break here, so 180 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 2: I think this would be a little bit of a 181 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 2: pause point everybody can catch their breath. To my audience members, 182 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: if you would like to talk with John or with 183 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: Jordan Rich, we would love to have you join the conversation. 184 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: I have a million questions to ask. I have read 185 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: the book. It is. 186 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 4: It is. 187 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: It's a book that is easy to read. You can 188 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 2: finish it in two or three hours. If you want 189 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: to put your head down, you can take your time. 190 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: There's a lot of lessons to be learned and lessons 191 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: to digest and understand that Jordan finds himself, you know, 192 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: Jordan in his life and we'll talk about this a 193 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: little bit after the break. Has known tragedy, having lost 194 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: his first wife, Wendy at a very early age. He 195 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: found love with Roberta and ironically Roberta's dad. I was 196 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: fortunate enough to be at Jordan and Roberta's wedding, and 197 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 2: Roberta's dad also was afflicted by Parkinson's and she was 198 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: really the one who first noticed some of the symptoms. 199 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: So we're going to make this a celebration of what 200 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: Jordan is doing. This is not a pity party whatsoever. 201 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: Jordan would not have it anyway like a pity party. 202 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: This is who someone who has got off off the 203 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: mat to carry the boxing metaphor going. He may have 204 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: been knocked down, not knocked out, and he's fighting back, 205 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: and that is exactly what we would expect Jordan to do. 206 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: Those of us who know him with us as the 207 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 2: author of the book, John de Chico, who's a PhD. 208 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 2: So we could call him doctor John, but I'll just 209 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: call him John uh and Jordan Rich six one seven, 210 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: two five four ten thirty six one seven nine three 211 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: one ten thirty. Don't be shy if you like to 212 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: call and say hello to Jordan and offer a comment 213 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: or a word of encouragement. I'm sure he would love 214 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: to hear from some of his regular listeners. He's still 215 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 2: doing radio. He continues to do radio. This fifty year 216 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: career is not anywhere near over. Uh, but in terms 217 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: of being available as a talk show host, perhaps that 218 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: portion of career is no longer with us. But you 219 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: hear him in WBZ quite a bit. Nonetheless, Night's Eye 220 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: with Dan Ray coming back right after this. 221 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 222 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 2: We're talking with w bez's own Jordan Rich. The book 223 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: is Jordan's Rich Journey Path of Purpose, Strength and Hope 224 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: with Parkinson's his author. Author of the book, John de 225 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: Chico is with us as well, Jordan, as I knew 226 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: the phone lines would lead would light up, so uh, 227 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: let's tell you a story. But let's also talk to 228 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: the callers here. I think I think that is so important. 229 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: Let me start it off with Larry down to the Cape. Hey, Larry, welcome. 230 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: How much snow did you get there this week weekend? 231 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 7: Larry about fourteen? But to be honest, you haven't been 232 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 7: out of the house. I'm struggling with the flu. 233 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'll say it's a good time to have 234 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 2: the flu in January if you got to have the flu, 235 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: because you're not going to miss any any great any 236 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: great wind weather of the Cape, Larry, say hi to 237 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: Jordan and to the author of his book, John to Chico. 238 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 7: John and Jordan. Yes, I love Jordan Rich's segments with 239 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 7: it was a satisfy with. 240 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: Gold God oh Mona, Yeah, one of my connoisseur's corner 241 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: of bells. I loved. 242 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 7: I loved those segments. 243 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: I love those segments. 244 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 7: And then I just want I missed part of the 245 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 7: eight o'clock segment. But I know Dan that you mentioned 246 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 7: last night that today is International Holocaust Remembrance Day. 247 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: Yes, and we did it. We did an entire segment 248 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: on it last hour. If you listen tomorrow, was it. 249 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: It was at eight fifteen, and there was a woman 250 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: whose mother in law was a survivor of the Holocaust, 251 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: and she she wrote a book in tribute to her, 252 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: to her mother in law, and you can you could 253 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: easily find that book if you listen to the eight 254 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: fifteen you know, approximately eight fifteen, you know, in the 255 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: show somewhere and get posted. The book is called ednes War. 256 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Larry War. 257 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 7: Okay, Yes, and I think if you remember, I won't 258 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 7: repeat it now, but I told you my father starring 259 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 7: World War two, being in one of the German prison camps, 260 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 7: so I won't repeat it now. So I have a 261 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 7: question for Jordan. I'm dealing with a similar chronic well 262 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 7: it's not similar, but a chronic condition that I'm trying 263 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 7: to deal with myself, and I have an exercise question 264 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 7: to him. I'm dealing with post COVID vaccine syndrome. The vaccine. 265 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 7: I'm vaccine injured from the Maderna vaccine, and then I 266 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 7: got COVID twice afterwards, so I got long COVID. So 267 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 7: my question to you is with your exercise program. I 268 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 7: before all this happened, I was an avid mountain biker cyclist. 269 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 7: I could ride. I'm seventy seven, but I could ride 270 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 7: with people half my age, and this whole thing just 271 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 7: set me back terribly. So my problem is I'm trying 272 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 7: to do even minimal amount of exercise, but I end 273 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 7: up with a condition called post exertional malaise. Are you 274 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 7: familiar with that term? 275 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: I'm not. But I just want to cut right to 276 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 3: the possible step you can take, and that's I mentioned 277 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 3: this gentleman earlier where I work out one ten fitness 278 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 3: which is in Rockland, not two from the Cape. I 279 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: mean he Bread's amazing and that he's a physical therapy 280 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: power excellence. But he came to people with all kinds 281 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 3: of issues. Obviously Parkinson's is the biggest one, but other issues, 282 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: MS and other body issues. And I would definitely look 283 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 3: into somebody like him because he got one to one 284 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 3: training and help and has helped people immeasurably. I'm not 285 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: a physiologist to an exercise trainer or anything, but I 286 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: know the benefits of exercise. And one of the things 287 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: that I learned and Dan and I have talked about 288 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 3: this is that you can actually do more than you 289 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 3: think you can. 290 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: Uh. 291 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 3: And the body is amazing even at seventy seven or 292 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 3: whatever age you are. The body is amazing if you 293 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 3: build up to exercise and you and you're told or 294 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 3: taught by someone who's an expert and knows your body. 295 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 3: So I just the point we make in this book 296 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 3: Jordan's Rest Journey is don't think that you're done. No 297 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: matter what it is. You know, if it's a chronic disease, 298 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: you can you can deal with it in very many ways, 299 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: and one of them is course exercise. But the right 300 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 3: program for the right person. 301 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: And Larry, look, the book is available, It's it's easy 302 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: to find. You can get it. We'll describe how you 303 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: can get it. It's Jordan's rich journey, a path of purpose, 304 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: strength and hope with Parkinson's. I've read it and I 305 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: learned a lot from it, and I work out, you know, 306 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: several times a week. And I had had nothing to 307 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 2: do with with with the situation Jordan's dealing with. But 308 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: if this can apply to his situation, it can apply 309 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: literally to anyone who wants to feel a little better 310 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 2: and maybe reactivate certain you know, cells in their body 311 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 2: which will help them feel better. Because I think that, 312 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 2: ultimately is what Jordan has been able to do. I 313 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: am not a physiologist either, but Jordan may you might 314 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 2: agree with me. 315 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely, daned and dorphins are released and you know your 316 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 3: your blood pumping, and the brain is the central organ 317 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 3: that really matters the brand of the gut, as I've discovered. 318 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 3: But moving the body is critical. Sedentary is well, they say, 319 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 3: sitting is the new smoking. I know that sounds silly, 320 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 3: but that's what people say. And so you've got to move. 321 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: And I, as a pre Parkinson's guy, was always on 322 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 3: the move, you know, always busy and standing and walking, 323 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 3: but never exercising the way I do now. It's high 324 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: intensity interval training and you've got to get your you know, 325 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 3: your heart pumping and your aerobic and anaerobic sides moving. 326 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 3: And that's what we do at One ten Fitness. If 327 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 3: I can just mention very quickly, and I'll let John 328 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 3: step if he wants to. One of the goals is 329 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 3: to not just tell a story, but also to inspire, obviously, 330 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: but also to raise awareness and funds. So part of 331 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 3: the proceeds from the sale of this book are going 332 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 3: to One ten Fitness in Rockland and the American Parkinson's 333 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: Disease Association of Massachusetts, a great organization. We do the 334 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: Optimism Walk in May. So all of this is sort 335 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 3: of wrapped up in this one project that I'm so 336 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: happy that John convinced me to do it. 337 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: All. It's all interrelated, is what I'm hearing you say. Jordan. 338 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: I mean it is, you know, it's it's it's so important. 339 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: And Larry, I know it's tough sometimes just to get 340 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: out of bed, but I'll tell you there's nothing like 341 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 2: getting out of bed, and just whether it's taking a 342 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 2: walk in the summertime. I know that you used to 343 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: be a guy that was riding the trails. You can 344 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 2: get back at it. You don't have to do an hour. 345 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: You start off and do ten minutes a ten minute walk, 346 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 2: and the next day, you know, do it a little 347 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: more quickly and go a little further and just build 348 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 2: up slowly. It's going to help you, trust me, Larry. 349 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, no, no, you know. 350 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 7: It's one of the neurologists that I saw is called pacing, 351 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 7: and you go out and you do just a minimal 352 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 7: amount and see if it triggers this thing. But the 353 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 7: problem with this condition that I have, I might have conjured. 354 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 7: Your cells sometimes work against each other. So I'll build 355 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 7: myself up. I'll start with a mile, two miles, five miles, 356 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 7: feel great. Two days later, I can't get out of 357 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 7: bed with this post exertion of the lafe even when 358 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 7: I build up. So it's been a frustrating battle. But 359 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 7: I'm sticking with it. And I'm definitely gonna get that 360 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 7: book because I tell you you're giving me some hope. Jordan. 361 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 3: Okay, Larry, can I we're blowing through the news break here, John, 362 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 3: go right ahead. 363 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 4: Oh yes, I keep it the road time. But anyway, Larry, 364 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 4: the thing is that this book has also been endorsed 365 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 4: by Davids Spinney. Yeah, and the David Spinney Foundation is 366 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 4: probably next to the Michael J. Fox is one of 367 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 4: the largest organizations for Parkinson's. And what he said was, 368 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 4: I've spent most of my life on a bike, learning 369 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 4: to keep ongoing no matter how difficult the road. Jordan's 370 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 4: Journey with Parkinson's reflects that same spirit of resilience and purpose. 371 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 4: His words will inspire anyone facing the challenges of Parkinson's 372 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 4: to keep moving forward with hope and strength. And Larry, 373 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 4: the thing is, this is what you did. You were 374 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 4: an exercise. You put people to shame that were half 375 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 4: your age. Okay. The thing is, if this guy can 376 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 4: do it, you can do it. I really believe that 377 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 4: if they're listening to you. 378 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: All right, gentlemen, I gotta cut it off. Here we 379 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: are now six minutes after the nine thirty news. Pray so, Larry, 380 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: thank you much, appreciate your call. We'll be right back 381 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 2: on nightside after the news with Jordan Rich. His book 382 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: a book about his journey, Jordan's Rich Journey, A Path 383 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 2: of Purpose, Strength and Hope with Parkinson's Alongside is the 384 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: author of the book John de Chico back on Nightside 385 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 2: right after this. 386 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: You're on Nightside with Ray on Boston's news radio. 387 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: We're talking with my friend and colleague, Jordan Rich. The 388 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: book is Jordan's Rich Journey A Path of Purpose, Strength 389 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: and hope with Parkinson's. The author of the book, John 390 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: di Chico, is also with us. Let us get back 391 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,239 Speaker 2: to the phone. Call is going to go next to 392 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: Jane in Shrewsbury. Hey, Jane, welcome. You're on with Jordan 393 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 2: Rich and with John di Chico. 394 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 8: Go ahead, Jane, Hi, Dan, Jordan and John. 395 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 9: A couple of click questions. 396 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 8: I'll get right to it. I had a chance to 397 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 8: look through one of the Ray Dorsey Michael Oaken books 398 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 8: called The Parkinson's Prevention Plan. I think our Parkinson's Prevention. 399 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 8: I was just curious if you were familiar with that, 400 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 8: and if you recommend that or any other books and all. 401 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 8: The second question is about genetic testing for familial inheritances, 402 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 8: which is only fifteen percent of the cases. 403 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 4: Apparently right. 404 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: I can comment on both of those things. I'm familiar 405 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: with the book you mentioned. I've read several books. I'd 406 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 3: poured my efforts into finding out as much as I can, 407 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 3: and sometimes you can over find out things, if you 408 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 3: know what I mean. But those are two reputable people 409 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 3: as far as I know. As far as the genetic factors, 410 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 3: You're absolutely right. It's a low number. And I have 411 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 3: not personally tested myself because as far as I know, 412 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 3: there's no one in my immediate family or rereacent generations 413 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 3: that have had it. But it is something that will 414 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: hopefully lead to well better treatments for people who do 415 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: have Parkinson's. And I'd like to segue from that into 416 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 3: a bit more about why we did this book. One 417 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 3: reason we did it was to bring attention to the 418 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 3: fact that you can do what you can to mitigate 419 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: the condition with exercise and holistic living as well as medication. 420 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 3: But the other thing is, you know, people are fighting 421 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 3: for relief from a disease that's affecting millions of people 422 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 3: around the world and is the fastest growing next to Alzheimer's, 423 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 3: the fastest pological on the planet. And there's a reason 424 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 3: for that. I believe it's environmental as well as anything else. 425 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 3: So there's that, and I'm trying to get a lot 426 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 3: in because I remember how quick the hours go by. 427 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: Dan two more things I'll mention Jane, and one of 428 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 3: them is the care partner part of this. Whether it's 429 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 3: a friend or a mate, or a husband or wife, son, daughter, 430 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 3: It takes a toll. A disease like this takes a 431 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: toll on everyone and not just the person who has it, 432 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 3: so you have to be aware of that. And finally, 433 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 3: the community I'll just end with is the community that 434 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 3: I have developed and formed and been part of and 435 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 3: feel close to. Is the greatest gift because I would 436 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 3: not have known any of the people I know who 437 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 3: have Parkinson's or have connection to Parkinson's, and my life 438 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 3: would not be as rich as it is because of that. 439 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: But by the way, Jordan and Jane, I just noticed 440 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: that you did a segment with Kim Carrigan of Karragan 441 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 2: and Company recently, and it looks as if it's just 442 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: been hosted on YouTube. When did you do that? 443 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, we did that on Monday, in the middle of 444 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 3: the snow disaster. I decided to take the subway over 445 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: to North Station where she tapes her podcast. 446 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 2: It's called I Read there myself. They have a great setup. 447 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: Kim is a wonderful person in human being. I can't 448 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: wait to watch that myself, and I'd recommend it to people. 449 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 2: All you get to do is look up Kerrigan and 450 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: Company on YouTube and you'll see Jordan in person. 451 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 3: And you'll see one of our other colleagues, Dan mister 452 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 3: Williams with Jack Williams was part of it too. 453 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 2: Oh really, I haven't talked to Jack in about a year. 454 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: He's out in Lost Wages, Nevada, Las Vegas as we 455 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 2: used to as we used to call it. Jane, I 456 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 2: hope those answered your questions. 457 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 8: Yes, and ongoing good health to Jordan. 458 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 3: Thank you, Jane, thank you so much. 459 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: Thanks Jane talks. So we got to take a very 460 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: quick break. We're going to catch up here back with 461 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: my guest, a colleague and friend and in many respects 462 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: of mentor and radio. I was a TV guy and 463 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 2: had to learn radio from Jordans his book Jordan's Rich 464 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 2: Journey A Path of Purpose, Strength and Hope with Parkinson's. 465 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: The author of the book, John de Chico, who did 466 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: the book for some time with fellow author Robert Cuomo, 467 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: who is a contributing author, but he passed away in 468 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: November of twenty four unrelated to Parkinson's. He had some 469 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: back surgery from which which he did not recover. Sadly. 470 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 2: We'll be back on Nightside. The only line I have opened, 471 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: if you want to try is six one, seven, nine, three, one, 472 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: ten thirty. We will get to Neil and Suzanne and 473 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: Gregory and Alex. I hope everybody's going to be quick 474 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: for us, and we'll be back on Nightside right after this. 475 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: It's night Side with Boston's News Radio. 476 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 2: We're talking with Jordan Rich. No needs no introduction the 477 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 2: book Jordan's Rich Earning a Path of Purpose, Strength and 478 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 2: Hope with Parkinson's his author. The author of the book, 479 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: John Dichica, was with us. We have, as you would expect, 480 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 2: full lines, and we gotta fly. So let's get rolling. 481 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: Gonna go to Neil and Watertown. Neil, I know he've 482 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: been waiting a little while. We got full lines behind you. 483 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 10: Go right ahead, all right, Thank you, Dan and and 484 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 10: John Enjeory. I recall because I just wanted to say 485 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 10: hello to Jordan. Now know if he remembers me, but 486 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 10: I have profited whatever you want to say, spiritually or 487 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 10: intellectually from talking to him on so that's that's fine. 488 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 3: To hear your voice, I do recognize your voice. 489 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 10: Neil, Okay, all right, that's that's that's it. 490 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: Well, that's thank you. That's a lovely comment. Thank you 491 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 2: so much. It just is another indication of that Jordan 492 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: always took time and has always taken time to be 493 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 2: good to people, and it's time for us to keep 494 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: him in our thoughts and prayers as he battles Parkinson's 495 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 2: let's keep rolling. He're gonna go next to him, Suzanne 496 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: and Newton, Susanne, we we are pushing it a little bit. 497 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 2: How are you tonight? 498 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 6: Thanks you for taking back to all. This is a 499 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 6: celebration of the marvelous mister Jordan Rich. I'm an assistant 500 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 6: living Mata and I've got you don't need to know 501 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 6: about that, but connoisseur Storder book Club. It brings back many, many, 502 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 6: many happy hours, as well as his son Andrew occasionally 503 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 6: a string for night Side. 504 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: That's right. We had the only father and son team 505 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: I think in Boston radio on a talk show working 506 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: a while. That was fun. But thank you so much 507 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 3: for calling and for your kind words. And I wish 508 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 3: you the best too, of course, cause in I. 509 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: Think you'll enjoy this book. It's called Jordan's Rich Journey 510 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: available virtually everywhere Amazon bookstores. And again, I think you'd 511 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 2: enjoy reading it. 512 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 6: Okay, sure, what, thank you? 513 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: Thanks Thanks San, Alex and Millis. Alex Is going to 514 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: have to be as quick as you can. Go right ahead, Alex. 515 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 5: Hi, good eating. Hi Jordan. I just wanted to reach 516 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 5: out and say hello, talking to you when you were hosting. 517 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 5: You know, you kept me company going into work on 518 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 5: the overnight shift, and I remember you all the best. Yeah. 519 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 5: And can I ask is medication, uh, you know, help 520 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 5: helping stabilize you know this condition? 521 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: Oh? 522 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I'll turn things over to John with a 523 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 3: question that John can answer. But medication is is very 524 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: important that the gold standard that's been around for about 525 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 3: fifty years is levadopa carbon dopa uh, sometimes referred to 526 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 3: as it's it's brand named Cinema, but it's basically a 527 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 3: dopamine replacement medication. And I'm on it, and everybody I 528 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 3: know who's got parkins is on some kind of medication. 529 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 3: There's also deep brain stimulation for those who require it. 530 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 3: And the good news is there really is a lot 531 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 3: of good news. There are new therapies and new drugs 532 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 3: coming down the pipeline, some very promising ones, and there's 533 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 3: also stem cell replacements. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed 534 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 3: and my boxing gloves cross that it's going to work out. 535 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 3: But I wanted John to And by the way, Alex, 536 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: I remember talking about Greek food with you a lot, 537 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 3: so thank you, thank you very much. But John, one 538 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 3: of the things that you wanted us to do was 539 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 3: not just talk about you know, inspiration and all that, 540 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 3: which is all well and good, but I sort of 541 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: a shopping list of what it is I do, just 542 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 3: as an example. Do you want to comment on that? 543 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 4: A shopping list of what you do? We're referring to 544 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 4: what's in the book. 545 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean the things that I do, the 546 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 3: sleep and the meditation and you know, food, diet, exercise 547 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. I mean, I think 548 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 3: that was your intent to not just tell a story 549 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 3: about an individual who just happens to be known to 550 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 3: some people in radio. 551 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, I understand where you're coming from here. Let 552 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 4: me just break the book down real quick. The book 553 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 4: has to do with not just the physiological part of Parkinson's, 554 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 4: and that's what I wanted to get out of Jordan. 555 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 4: It was also the spiritual and it was also the 556 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 4: physical part of the disease as well. And I think 557 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 4: that the inspiration to move forward was one of the 558 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 4: main catalysts of writing this because that tied in with Jordan, 559 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 4: his voice, his inspiration. But along with that, he wanted 560 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 4: to share many of what he did rest meditation. I 561 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 4: think you even did acupuncture as well doing it. 562 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm still doing it. And you know, I think 563 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 3: this has taught me Dan and the callers and listeners 564 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 3: and friends, is that you know, I took like a 565 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 3: lot of us my health for granted. I was always healthy, 566 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 3: and now I don't take it for granted, and I 567 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 3: do whatever I can to stay in the game. And 568 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 3: it's really kind of fun in a way. It's exciting 569 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 3: and adventuresome. You know, medication is terrific, and I've got 570 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 3: a great neurologist and motor specialist, but I also use 571 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: other therapies, including a good hot shower with the cold 572 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 3: water sprits. I mean, I'll do it all. I mean, 573 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 3: whatever it takes to stay in the game sounds great. 574 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 2: I got a couple more folks who want to say 575 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 2: hello to your Jordan's so we'll thank Alex. Thank you, Alex. 576 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,479 Speaker 2: Very much. Let me go to Greg and Dorchester. Greg, 577 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 2: you got to be quick for me, buddy, go right ahead, 578 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: all right. 579 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 9: Dan, thanks for taking my call. 580 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 4: Hey John, Hi Greg. 581 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 9: Oh you wouldn't you wouldn't forget me, but just any 582 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 9: so too often I remember that, I'm so happy for 583 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 9: you to hear you in the radio. And I taught 584 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 9: some prayer so with you, and then I'll keep it 585 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 9: very sharp because you're a gentleman that met you a 586 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 9: couple of times, and I never forget you. And you'll 587 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 9: get a great pass that there in that ray. You 588 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 9: cann't get any better than that. And the power of 589 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 9: prayer is great, Jard and you're my prayers. So thank 590 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 9: you very. 591 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 2: Much, Greg, thank you, thank you very much. Great great comments, 592 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: great great call. Thank you Ron. And Ron. I got 593 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: about thirty seconds for you, and you're the last guy up. 594 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 4: Go right ahead, Ron, okay, and thank you. I just 595 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 4: want to say thanks for all that you've done and 596 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 4: continue to do, and let you know that there are 597 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 4: some good things in the pipeline. I'm sure you may 598 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 4: be aware of it. We can from molecular targeted receptors 599 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 4: to delivered systems. So I think the future is hopeful. 600 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for that. 601 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more. And that's what keeps a lot 602 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 3: of people. And one thing that we didn't mention, I'll 603 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 3: make it very quick. The young on set development is 604 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 3: really startling. I mean I'm sixty seven years old and 605 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 3: I didn't get this till I was sixty five or so. 606 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 3: But I know people in their thirties and early forties 607 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 3: with kids, and this is why we have to really 608 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 3: step up the game. And Michael J. Fox and Davis 609 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 3: Finney and all the foundations are doing a great job. 610 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. Ron I gotta close it out. Thank 611 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 2: you very much, kind words. Jordan. I just want to 612 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 2: end if I could. I wrote a brief endorsement and 613 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 2: I want to tell people what I think. Sure, please 614 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 2: don't be embarrassed up. No, Jordan Rich is a friend 615 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 2: and colleague for decades. I stand in awe of all 616 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 2: these accomplished and simultaneously in dured. I have no intention 617 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: in trying to tell his amazing story of love lost 618 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 2: and love rekindled, of forging a public career only to 619 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 2: face a medical diagnosis that can only be called cruel, 620 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 2: while maintaining his dignity and personal sense of irony. Throughout 621 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 2: his series of triumphs and tribulations, Jordan gives us all 622 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 2: hope every day, and in the process he gives us 623 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 2: hope for our lives. 624 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 3: Danner, you know I read that and when, but hearing 625 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 3: your words from your mouth really make my heart saying 626 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 3: thank you, thank you my friend. 627 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 2: And John, thank you for your friendship. And you're writing 628 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: this book. The book is Jordan Rich's, Jordan's rich journey. 629 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 2: Jordan's a possessive Jordan's rich journey. He owns it. He's 630 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 2: going to defeat it. A path of purpose, strength and 631 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 2: hope with Parkinson's. Gentlemen, thank you for your time tonight. 632 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: I really appreciate the time, and Jordan, I appreciate your courage. 633 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 3: I bless you. Dan wanted to be on. 634 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining. 635 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 2: We will be back right after the ten o'clock news. 636 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about keeping you safe in an 637 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 2: unsafe world. Stick with us.