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Speaker 1: Now on the Voice of New York Still Mark Simonne

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Speaker 1: Show on seven to ten.

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Speaker 2: Woo Hey, we'll get to Minnesota. We'll get to Jimmy Kimmel, Colbert,

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Speaker 2: We'll get to CBS. We'll get to the Hilton, We'll

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Speaker 2: get to Milania. We'll get to the Mayor. We've got

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Speaker 2: a lot to talk about today. What the hell? This

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Speaker 2: is ridiculous, this weather. We you know, we've had big

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Speaker 2: snowstorms before, in fact, much bigger than this one. But

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Speaker 2: in every case, the day or two after the snowstorm,

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Speaker 2: it gets over freezing, over thirty two degrees and it

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Speaker 2: starts melting. We've never had this happen before, where you

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Speaker 2: get the snowstorm and then it stays in the teens

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Speaker 2: for the whole week, and the snow just doesn't go away.

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Speaker 2: So it's just miserable outside. It's hard to stay outside

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Speaker 2: very long. You don't even have to go to Jimmy.

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Speaker 2: Get all your exercise jumping over snowbanks and puddles and slush,

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Speaker 2: and it's gonna be a while before you can go

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Speaker 2: back to regular shoes. You got to wear your snow shoes,

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Speaker 2: your snow boots, your ugly shoes. It's just a mess

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Speaker 2: out there. The mayor is calling it code blue. That's

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Speaker 2: the new term. Eleven people have died already outside. They

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Speaker 2: found dead people outside who are out in the streets

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Speaker 2: and just died in the cold weather. And it's cold blue.

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Speaker 3: That's what the city remains in Cold blue, which means

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Speaker 3: that we are intensifying outreach, that we are conducting round

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Speaker 3: the clock checks and have loosened traditional shelter intake procedures

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Speaker 3: to accommodate as many New Yorkers as possible.

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Speaker 2: You gotta admit he's very good at those press conferences.

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Speaker 2: He sounds very authoritative when he talks. He may not

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Speaker 2: know what he's doing, but he sounds good. But it's

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Speaker 2: been a horrible situation. People have died outside.

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Speaker 3: But at least ten New Yorkers have tragically lost their

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Speaker 3: lives after being found outdoors. We don't yet know whether

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Speaker 3: every case will be ruled hypothermia, but we need every

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Speaker 3: New Yorker to be on alert, looking out for their neighbors.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it actually hit eleven after that statement.

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Speaker 3: We are mobilizing every resource at our disposal to ensure

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Speaker 3: that New Yorkers are brought indoors during this potentially lethal

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Speaker 3: weather event.

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Speaker 2: Well, so Minnesota. The Trump administration trying to reset things

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Speaker 2: a little course correction. The border patrol has been pulled out,

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Speaker 2: not just the leader of the border patrol, but the

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Speaker 2: entire border patrol. Because they're a border patrol. They operate

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Speaker 2: on the border with no population around them. To suddenly

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Speaker 2: be operating in a city, he's a whole different thing

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Speaker 2: for a border patrol. And to be operating in a

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Speaker 2: city where the police have been ordered to go away

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Speaker 2: and let the protesters go at the border patrol. This

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Speaker 2: is the key to this whole situation. The shooting of

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Speaker 2: the nurse pretty if you look at it from what

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Speaker 2: we know so far, doesn't look justified. It doesn't look

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Speaker 2: like a good shooting. I mean it's I'm sure it's

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Speaker 2: legal because in that kind of mayhem struggle guy resisting,

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Speaker 2: they're probably covered legally. But it doesn't look like a

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Speaker 2: good shooting. It doesn't look like it was necessary. But again,

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Speaker 2: border patrol not used to being in a city, not

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Speaker 2: used to working in crowds. They work all alone on

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Speaker 2: a border, and they're certainly not used to being physically

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Speaker 2: confronted by a mob of protesters. They're not used to it.

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Speaker 2: They're untrained for that, they're inexperience with that. So the

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Speaker 2: real key to all of this. You can argue about

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Speaker 2: the officers shooting all of that stuff, but the real

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Speaker 2: key to this is the mayor and the governor's decision

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Speaker 2: to remove all police from the scene, which created the

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Speaker 2: total chaos. No, We've had many times where there's massive

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Speaker 2: protests going on, but the protesters are under control because

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Speaker 2: the police are there setting up barricades, keeping the crowd

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Speaker 2: on that side of the street, and the protesters are

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Speaker 2: certainly allowed to yell all kinds of things and wave

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Speaker 2: their signs and yell and scream. That's a protest. What

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Speaker 2: happened in Minnesota is those are not protesters. Pretty was

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Speaker 2: not a protester. Protester is a guy with a sign,

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Speaker 2: yelling and protesting. But when you physically get involved, you

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Speaker 2: try to interfere with a law enforcement operation, you try

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Speaker 2: to actually stop the law enforcement operation, interfere with law

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Speaker 2: enforcement and prevent whatever. That's not protesting. That's a whole

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Speaker 2: other category. And the police were not anywhere near any

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Speaker 2: of this. They had been deliberately called back. You got

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Speaker 2: the police. The president of the police union in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: The president of the police union now coming out and

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Speaker 2: saying that this is what caused this. He's specifically blaming this.

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Speaker 2: He's the head of the police union. I'm looking for

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Speaker 2: his statement here. Minnesota Police union boss Mark Ross tells

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Speaker 2: his staff there would have been no loss of life

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Speaker 2: had the police been there, had they not been held

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Speaker 2: of life. Things would have remained under control. He says. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: our local politicians would not allow the police there, would

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Speaker 2: not allow them to maintain order. As a result, Ice

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Speaker 2: and Border patrol agents, who are not trained to deal

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Speaker 2: with civilian clashes like this, have been all on their

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Speaker 2: own trying to deal with angry locals. He said that

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Speaker 2: such cooperation didn't even interfere with Minnesota's sanctuary laws. All

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Speaker 2: they had to do was allow the police to maintain order. Now,

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Speaker 2: Democrats have a history of this when it comes to this,

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Speaker 2: of pulling back the police, so this sort of stuff happens.

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Speaker 2: She saw the same thing on January sixth. They were

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Speaker 2: offered ten thousand troops to guard the capitol, and that

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Speaker 2: would have kept the protesters at a distance from the capitol.

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Speaker 2: They wouldn't have gotten near the capitol or into the

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Speaker 2: Capitol Pelosi and she later admitted to this on video,

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Speaker 2: and the mayor, Muriel Bowser turned it down, And who

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Speaker 2: knows who was behind that decision to turn down the troops. Now,

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Speaker 2: all they had were the building police, you know, the

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Speaker 2: building security people, the Capitol Hill police force, who were

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Speaker 2: not equipped in any way to handle a mob of

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Speaker 2: four hundred thousand people. A handful of building cops can't

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Speaker 2: handle four hundred thousand people. So the whole place got

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Speaker 2: over again. It's the same thing in Minnesota. The police

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Speaker 2: were told to go away, do not go there, do

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Speaker 2: not maintain order, do not control the protesters. So they

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Speaker 2: left the category of protesters. They're physically clashing with the

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Speaker 2: officers and actually trying to interfere with their operations, trying

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Speaker 2: to block them. And the other problem is you got

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Speaker 2: the mayor and the governor spreading this false crap that

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Speaker 2: they're not police. The governor saying stop preferring to them

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Speaker 2: as law enforcement. They're not law enforcement, which is absolutely

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Speaker 2: not true. You got other Democrats there calling them mall cops,

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Speaker 2: not police. This is not true. They're actual official law

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Speaker 2: enforcement police officers. That's the main cause. Then you got

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Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer. We can't play it on the air because

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Speaker 2: he's using the F word and cursing. It's up on

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Speaker 2: my Twitter if you want to see it. Schumer trying

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Speaker 2: to sound tough, using the F word a lot about this.

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Speaker 2: Here's a cleaned up. This is another statement.

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Speaker 4: I felt.

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Speaker 5: I was punched in the stomach. I looked at those pictures,

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Speaker 5: those videos over and over again and said, this can't

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Speaker 5: be America. This is some kind of a fascist dictatorship.

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Speaker 2: It's what happens if you got crazy out of control

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Speaker 2: of protesters rioters, and you take the police away and

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Speaker 2: let them physically clash with the cops. It's what happened

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Speaker 2: in January sixth. And look at Ashley Babbitt, and that

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Speaker 2: was a far worse shooting than Pretty. In the case

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Speaker 2: of Ashley Babbitt, she was twenty feet away, She was

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Speaker 2: nowhere near anybody. There was no physical confrontation. She wasn't

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Speaker 2: confronting them. She was trespassing, trying to come through the window.

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Speaker 2: But from twenty feet away, the officer just shot her

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Speaker 2: in cold blood. Pretty was different. He was there confronting

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Speaker 2: the police physically he was resisting arrest was a whole

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Speaker 2: different things. So and after Ashley Babbitt, poor woman shot

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Speaker 2: in cold blood right in Schumer's own building office building,

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Speaker 2: did he say a word. Nope. So Obama put out

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Speaker 2: a statement yesterday about the killing of pretty and we're

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Speaker 2: still waiting for his statement on Ashley Babbitt. We haven't

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Speaker 2: seen that yet. It's about five years later. Jimmy Kimmel

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Speaker 2: crying on the air last night. The President has talked

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Speaker 2: about and other people have talked about these protesters being funded,

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Speaker 2: you know, Soros type money. We mentioned one of the

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Speaker 2: guys funding this, Neville Roy Singham, the guy that's working

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Speaker 2: with the Chinese communists out of Shanghai, funding this kind

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Speaker 2: and screaming there's no proof. Trump has no proof, calling

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Speaker 2: on him to prove it. Well, it's currently under investigation

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Speaker 2: actually by the Justice Department, by Congress tracing the money.

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Speaker 2: So I wouldn't state of that line too long because

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Speaker 2: the proof may emerge pretty soon. Hey. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Colbert goes off the air. May first, they've announced the

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Speaker 2: But you got to remember Colbert, regardless of the politics. Colbert,

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Speaker 2: you know, in his lawsuit at CBS where they had

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Speaker 2: replace it with a talk show. They'll put something else on.

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Speaker 2: They'll put a game show reruns or some kind of reruns. Now,

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Speaker 2: remember remember Kimmel was taken off the air for a week. Well,

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Speaker 2: when that happened, during that week, ABC put on reruns

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Speaker 2: So that's what CBS will do. So it'll help Kimmel

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Speaker 2: a little. He'll pick up some of that Colbert audience,

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Speaker 2: means a lot more revenue because you can charge more

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Speaker 2: at ABC you'll say, why don't we do that and

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Speaker 2: What do we need Kimmel for? So expect that this

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Speaker 2: Colbert will go away. Remember they didn't re sign Kimmel

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Speaker 2: final year. Two. The Tonight Show, that's a little different.

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Speaker 2: It's it's hard to remove that. That is the uh,

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Speaker 2: That's where it all began. The Tonight Show. Steve Allen,

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Speaker 2: Jack Parr, Johnny Carson, Jay Lennods. You can't just if

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Speaker 2: there's gonna be one thing standing, it'll be The Tonight Show.

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Speaker 2: And you know, one good thing about Fallon he doesn't

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Speaker 2: being a comedian, which he's pretty good at. Hey, he's

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Speaker 2: speaking of CBS. The new woman in charge of CBS News,

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Speaker 2: Barry Weiss, did her town hall yesterday. The people there

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Speaker 6: Doing, Hey, Mark her are you you know? I just

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Mark. I have a question about this Ashley

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Speaker 7: Thank you Mark for taking my call. Just all these

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Speaker 5: Hey, Mark Good, I'm sorry, I just tuned in. Did

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Speaker 2: That was We didn't get to that yet. It's a

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Speaker 2: Even the President Trump wanting to take a look at that. Hey,

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk to him about Minnesota, about all of this.

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Speaker 2: how you doing well?

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Speaker 5: Hi, Mark, Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Where do we even start? Minnesota? You know, the police

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Speaker 5: Oh? Absolutely he could. And in fact Justice Kavanaugh in

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Speaker 5: he surely meant the Insurrection Act to send in troops

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Speaker 5: on federal property. And throughout history we have seen fifteen

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Speaker 5: presidents invoke the Insurrection Act under similar circumstances. The president

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Speaker 5: has the power. I did write in a recent columnlaning

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Speaker 5: the president's power that you know, Minnesota may not be

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Speaker 5: quite near the standard for riots and destruction that would

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Speaker 5: justify such a move. Uh, you know, calling of federal

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Speaker 5: troops could incite more protests, and you know, having the

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Speaker 5: power to act is always tempting, but wisdom is often

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Speaker 5: found in restraint, and I think the President has exercised that.

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Speaker 5: He's attempting to defuse the situation there. He's made some

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Speaker 5: changes in the leadership on site in Minnesota and pulling

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Speaker 5: back some of the ICE and Border Patrol personnel, mostly

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Speaker 5: because you know, they've accomplished a lot of what they

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Speaker 5: intended to do there, so you know, sort of time

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Speaker 5: to move on. But you know, as far as all

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Speaker 5: of the violence that has taken place there, Tim Walls,

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Speaker 5: the governor, Jacob Fry, the mayor, they bear blame. I mean,

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Speaker 5: they embraced sanctuary status for criminal aliens, they refuse to

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Speaker 5: cooperate with ICE. Then they publicly in front of cameras,

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Speaker 5: gin up the street rage against federal law enforcement, and

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Speaker 5: that only fuel the agitators and the anarchists to harass

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Speaker 5: and impede and even get into fights with ICE agents.

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Speaker 5: I mean, what did the mayor and governor think was

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Speaker 5: going to happen? Inevitably? You know, somebody armed was going

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Speaker 5: to show up and bloodshed would ensue.

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Speaker 2: Are these even protesters? The protesters, the guy standing over

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Speaker 2: there with a sign yelling. But when you physically try

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Speaker 2: to stop law enforcement operation, or you physically go into

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Speaker 2: a church and try to interrupt the service, that's no

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Speaker 2: longer protesting. That's beyond protesting.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously. And you know, look, it's always a terrible

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Speaker 5: idea to show up at a law enforcement operation and

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Speaker 5: blowing whistles and harassing with a gun stuffed in your

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Speaker 5: waist belt. And then you know, actively injecting yourself by

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Speaker 5: interfering with the officers, resisting arrest, trying to you know,

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Speaker 5: subdue another protester, I mean getting into physical fight with agents.

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Speaker 5: Bad idea. When you do that, terrible things can happen

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Speaker 5: because it's a crime to obstruct officers who are doing

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Speaker 5: their jobs.

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Speaker 2: That's an important point. If you pull your car in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the street and block them from moving,

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Speaker 2: or if they're trying to do something and you try

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Speaker 2: to stop the operation, that is actually a crime, right there, isn't.

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Speaker 5: It, Yeah, it absolutely is. You're obstructing justice, s obstructing

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Speaker 5: law enforcement. You are arguably engaging in an assault and

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Speaker 5: battery of a law enforcement official. It's a variety of crimes.

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Speaker 5: And you know, Mark, you bring.

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Speaker 2: Up the church protests.

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Speaker 5: You know, the right to protest does not extend to

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Speaker 5: private property, and it certainly does not extend to churches.

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Speaker 5: They are protected spaces by law. So the mob that

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Speaker 5: stormed the church and terrorized and tormented the congregation, they

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Speaker 5: can and should be prosecuted for a variety of crimes,

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Speaker 5: including truspath disorderly conduct, but most importantly violating what's known

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Speaker 5: as the Face Act. It is a civil rights law

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Speaker 5: that strictly protects houses of worship from threats and intimidation

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Speaker 5: here against Christians. And you know, Don Lemon could also

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Speaker 5: be prosecuted as a willing participant hit himself with the mob,

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Speaker 5: knowing full well that they intended to commit crimes by

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Speaker 5: invading the church. And you know, just calling yourself a

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Speaker 5: journalist is not a defense and the First Amendment is

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Speaker 5: not a shield from criminal charges.

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Speaker 2: Now, some of the protesters argue, the church is open

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Speaker 2: to the public. Anybody's allowed to come in, but you're

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Speaker 2: not allowed to distop it or stop the service.

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Speaker 5: That is correct, And you know, it's private property. They

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Speaker 5: have their rules. Worshipers are welcome, but these were not worshipers.

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Speaker 5: This was a mob who you know, decided to trespass

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Speaker 5: out of that property, hault the service of people worshiping.

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Speaker 5: And that's, as I say, a violation of the Face

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Speaker 5: Act and a companion statute eighteen USC. Two forty seven

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Speaker 5: in the Criminal Code.

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Speaker 2: Hey, when guys like you say, you know it's about

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Speaker 2: law eighteen C. Two seventy four, how do you guys

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Speaker 2: remember that? How do you remember all these numbers? That's

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Speaker 2: an incredible feat.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know. You learn some of it in

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Speaker 5: law school, others in the practice of law. But you know, here,

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Speaker 5: I knew there.

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Speaker 2: Was a law.

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Speaker 5: I'm when it happened. I you know, looked it up

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Speaker 5: and it's right there and plain English.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's some people in the president's ear

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Speaker 2: now telling them pull out of Minnesota. Just announce, just

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Speaker 2: call their bluffs that we're leaving Minnesota. We're pulling out completely.

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Speaker 2: You can have all your illegals. Let's see how this

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Speaker 2: works out for you. But that's not a good idea,

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Speaker 2: is it. It would just encourage the rioters.

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Speaker 5: Well, rioters and protesters don't get veto power over federal

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Speaker 5: law enforcement, and neither do states. So the question becomes

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Speaker 5: have we done enough? And I don't know what the

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Speaker 5: percentage is, but I somewhere around seventy percent of their

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Speaker 5: objectives have been accomplished, so it's time to scale back,

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Speaker 5: and that's reasonable. They did that in Los Angeles. They

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Speaker 5: had achieved what they wanted to achieve for the most part,

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Speaker 5: so they reduced their operations and their personnel. Makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 2: He Now, the federal government, their law enforcement, their troops.

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Speaker 2: They're legally entitled to enter a city and do whatever

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Speaker 2: they have to do. Correct the federal law overtakes the

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Speaker 2: local law.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, it's the supremacy clause. And you know, federal

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Speaker 5: law supersede state law whenever there is a conflict. So

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Speaker 5: you know, for example, the state has hauled off and

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Speaker 5: you know, file a lawsuit to evict all Ice from Minnesota. Well,

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Speaker 5: you know, they're idiots if they think the law supports that,

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Speaker 5: because it doesn't. As I said before, you know, states

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Speaker 5: don't get to dictate what the federal government does in

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Speaker 5: terms of law enforcement. The supremacy Clause of the Constitution

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Speaker 5: makes that abundantly clear, and the US Supreme Court has

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Speaker 5: consistently upheld the supremacy clause and the right of federal authority.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Greg Jarrett, great stuff. Mcgett's books. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I love Trial of the Century. It's one of the

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Speaker 2: best books. And the latest book is The Constitution Other

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Speaker 2: patriotic Documents. Are you working on a new book?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm taking a break, Palell. Writing books is an

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Speaker 5: onerous process, and I deserve a break after.

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Speaker 2: Four books, I know, but we deserve another book. They're

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Speaker 2: all great books, and just go to Amazon. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. You can get Greg Jarrett's books and

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Speaker 2: read his columns, and of course Foxnews and foxnews dot Com.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff, Greg Jarrett, thanks for being with us.

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Speaker 5: My pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Mark, Take care, take care. It is a very tough

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Speaker 2: thing to write a book. I've been trying to do

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Speaker 2: it for years. I think I got so far half

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Speaker 2: a page. It's really I don't know how anybody does it.

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Speaker 2: I know got people that are best selling authors. This

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Speaker 2: able to lock themselves in a room for like six

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Speaker 2: hours a day, sitting there at the keyboard, hour after

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Speaker 2: hour after hour. Anyway, we got a lot coming up

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Speaker 2: in the next hour. We'll get to Hey, it's it's

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Speaker 2: Well, freezing cold all this week, there's ridiculous weather. We'll

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Speaker 2: continue through the weekend. Now on Sunday, there's a chance

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Speaker 2: weather models they use. One it's moving this storm now,

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Speaker 2: it could turn towards us, or it could turn away,

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