1 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Hockey Time Russo Radio kind enough to join us via 2 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: the Connecticot water System highlight. Why are you not with 3 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: the team? 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: Uh just the Joe Smiths with the team right now? 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great, But I mean he. 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: Wanted to go on this trip, so we let him. 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 2: And then yeah, but I'm actually missing seven in a row. 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: Then when he comes back in the wild, I have 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: I think a four game homestead. In the first three games, 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: I'm actually going to Edmonton where he was the other day, 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: uh for for the women's rivalry series again and uh 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: so yeah. Then I mean then I come back and 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: and I think they played the Capitol so I'll be 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: covering that. So that's really the next time I see 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: him is like middle of this month. 16 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: Have you had any success? We may try to get 17 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: Garret on again the next week or two. One of 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: the odds I can get him going. Saying that, really, 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: it's pretty clear the difference in in volstet between this 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: year and last year. Last year you saddled him with 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: that silly three goalie experiment, and now that you've clarified things, 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: you know he's a different goalie. I mean, can I 23 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: get him going that way? Or do you think he'll 24 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: see me coming. 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: He actually might agree with you. So I mean, look, 26 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: I think there's something to that. I also think there's 27 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: something to the fact that Iowa was just a bad 28 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: hockey team. They've been bad for three years in a row, 29 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: or actually off to another terrible start this year. So 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: I think that's part of it too, is he's playing 31 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: in front of NHL guys. But I do think that 32 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: his mind is clear, you know, last year, Like like, look, 33 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: even before last year started, I remember Joe Smith and 34 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: I co Bylinding a story that said, you know, we 35 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: really didn't understand where the wild were coming from with 36 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: this because they're one injury from this not being something 37 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: they could at all to. It just made no sense 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: with their cap situation that they were ever going to 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: be able to achieve a three goalie system. You know, 40 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: you're essentially wasting a roster spot with a salary. He 41 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: made no sense, and so then you know what, two 42 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: games since the season, he was sent down to the 43 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: minors and we basically never saw him again. So I 44 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: I do think that that he felt like his you know, 45 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: I think his head was unclear last year and he 46 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: felt like they were playing mind games. With him or 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 2: whatever the intention was. And and I think he's come 48 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: back here this year a lot of things have changed. 49 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: I mean, he just he came in in you know, 50 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: tremendous shape. That's always been one of the things that 51 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: he even admits has been you know, a knock on him. 52 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: And and and obviously he's just you know, come in 53 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 2: with this great mental, uh you know, fresh attitude right now, 54 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 2: and he's been just sensational. 55 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: I want to go back to because you guys laid 56 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: it out nicely in the piece the other day about 57 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: the sort of what the thinking was on him before 58 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: the draft, and that it was clear that there were 59 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: some for some teams at least some alarm bells that 60 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: sort of had them staying away from him. So as 61 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: you recall from that time, I'm sure you explored a 62 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: decent amount of that. And obviously, especially when the wild 63 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: said no, no, no, we're going to move up to 64 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: get him. So what did you make of what was 65 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 1: most of the criticism fair? Was it a little bit 66 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: sort of polarizing or what do you remember about that 67 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 1: whole period in terms of evaluating him. 68 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: You know, it's tough because it was one of those 69 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: things where he didn't have a ton of viewings based 70 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: on the pandemic, so really you were dealing with European 71 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: scouts for every team that were doing everything via zoom, 72 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: So a lot of the North American scouts didn't get 73 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: over there to watch him in the year leading up 74 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: to his draft year. But he did have this wrap 75 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: on him that he fell way deep in the draft 76 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: because there was just this perception out there that he 77 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: was uncoachable and had a bad attitude and didn't take 78 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: care of his face witness. And I talked to him 79 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: about that the other day. I mean in the story 80 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: that Joe and I wrote yesterday where we talked about 81 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: the Oilers. They were one of those teams that seemed 82 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: to I don't want to, I don't want to say 83 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: fall for it, but they were certainly a team that 84 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: believed that stuff, because Wally told me point blank that 85 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 2: he was told that the second that the Detroit Red 86 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: Wings took Sebastian Cosa at number fifteen, who, by the way, 87 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 2: is still not in the NHL, but he's having a 88 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: great year in the Age yell that they were not 89 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: drafting him by any stretching imagination. So I remember at 90 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: the time the Wild tried had four different attempts that 91 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: they tried to move up in the draft to draft 92 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: volst At. They struck out the first three times, and 93 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: they were convinced that the Oilers going to take him 94 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: at twenty and Bill Garran basically said to Judd Brackett, 95 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 2: I mean, should I call Ken Holland and judge like 96 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: I guess, but it's going to go nowhere because they're 97 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: going to take him. And he calls them and was 98 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: able to swing a deal where they just flipped picks 99 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: that you know, they got the twenty second pick in 100 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: the Wild just gave him a third round pick for 101 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: their trouble. So you know, the Wild, you know, clearly 102 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: at this point it's early in his career, seems to 103 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: have gotten a diamond in the rough here. And but 104 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: he said that, you know, look, I was seventeen, eighteen 105 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: years old, and you know, I think that people just 106 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 2: took my confidence as cocky. And either way you're seventeen 107 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: or eighteen, you grow. And we've seen him grow both 108 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: mentley and physically in the last couple of years. So 109 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: that's the danger in this sport. I mean, we hear 110 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: it all the time of players that fall and fall 111 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: and fall based on, you know, an opinion that's generated 112 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: at seventeen or eighteen years old, when these guys are 113 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: not really men yet and guys can mature, and clearly 114 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: he feels like he has, but he admits that there 115 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: was this rap on him that did cause him to 116 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: fall to number twenty when a lot of people going 117 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,559 Speaker 2: into his draftyear thought that he'd be a top ten pick. 118 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: And look, it's very rare that goalies. You know, a 119 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: lot of teams don't like drafting goalies in the first round. 120 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: I'm not sure Ken Holland ever has in his career. 121 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,119 Speaker 2: And I think that you know, that's that's probably also 122 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: waves into it, is that you know, it's such a 123 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: crapshoot position that teams don't want to waste an early 124 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: pick on them. 125 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: That is interesting because I know, and it's easy for 126 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: me to say, because I'm evaluating on the basis of 127 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: what we're now seeing as opposed to when you have 128 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: to project. But the position seems so important to me 129 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: that I would never hesitate if I really love the goalie, 130 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: if I really was convinced the guy was big to 131 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: use my first round pick. It's it's it's it's it's 132 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: counterintuitive to intuitive to me, even though as you say, 133 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: some of it as well, they're harder to maybe to evaluate. 134 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: So it's a little bit more of a risk than 135 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: a forward, I guess or a defenseman I don't know, 136 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: But I mean we see the impact it has historically, 137 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: let alone in the wild, you know, in this recent 138 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: run for me to say, yeah, if I love them, 139 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: and I'm convinced I love him, I got no problem 140 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: to taking a goalie in the first round, Yeah. 141 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: No doubt. And you know, I think the biggest isn't 142 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: for this belief in the than the perception is that 143 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: that so many goalies that have been you know, drafted 144 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: in the NHL that turn out to be incredible goalies 145 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: or taken you know, mid rounds or even on draft. 146 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: I mean, Henrik Lenquist is the first one in the 147 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: pops in my mind. I mean, here's a seventh round 148 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: pick and he turns out to be a Hall of Famer. 149 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: And I think that, you know, obviously there are the 150 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: carry prices of the world, but I think that's the 151 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: reason why is that, you know, is that it's just 152 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: such a hard position to predict at such a young 153 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: young age. You know, there were twenty people that there 154 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: were nineteen teams that essentially missed out on Volstatt. But 155 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: I agree with you. I do think that there's just this, 156 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: you know, there's this philosophy and maybe it's dinosaursh in 157 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: the NHL that you just don't want to waste a 158 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: pick on somebody like that when it's so much easier 159 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: to recognize if a guy's a great skater or things 160 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: like that. It's such a mental position and it's hard 161 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: to recognize at eighteen years old, how you're going to 162 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: be able to metlely withstand the pressures of just being 163 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: alone on an island every single night for sixty minutes 164 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: and you know, to get to what the wild you're 165 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: doing now. This is why I have I love kind 166 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: of this rotation that they've done now tonight being the 167 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: twelfth game where this is the fifth time now coming 168 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: off a shutout, the goalie that got to shut out 169 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: the night before is not starting the next game. But 170 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: it's kept both these guys fresh. I mean, Gustason has 171 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: been really really good as well. Here the team you know, 172 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: as a whole, while said and Gustus and the have 173 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: the best say percentage in the league since November first, 174 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: And I think that in a season like this where 175 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: things are just so condensed and injuries are happening rampant 176 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: around the NHL, this makes all the sense going into 177 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 2: the Olympics, where Gus is also going to be in 178 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: the Olympics. Most likely to just split these guys for 179 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: it right now, as long as they're both playing and 180 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: you know, well and delivering them victories, Can you give. 181 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: Us an injury update on I know you're not there, 182 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: but I know you're on top of all the injuries. 183 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: Who's in, who's out, who's close, who's not. 184 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're av skated today. He's the only one of 185 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: the injured guys that's on the trip. He's not going 186 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: to play tonight, but the hope is that he can 187 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: play in Vancouver. This is an odd trip where the 188 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 2: Wild has four games, but they have an off day 189 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: before each of the games, so it allows him to 190 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 2: get practice time in and things like that. So that 191 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: was good news that he was on the ice today. 192 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 2: Marco Rossi, they had hoped to would join at some 193 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: point on the trip, as long as he progressed back 194 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: here in Minnesota. Right now, from what I saw with 195 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: my own two eyes on Monday, I don't think he's 196 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: close to returning. You know. John Hines said today that 197 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: he's not going to be joining the trip. And he 198 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 2: was on the ice for like two minutes the other 199 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: day and came off and I talked to him briefly 200 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: and he said that it didn't go well. So I 201 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: think that he's still going to be out a while 202 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 2: if Leno hasn't started skating yet. He got hurt there 203 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: in Chicago in that game a week or so ago, 204 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: right before Thanksgiving, and same thing with any Hose Hittoestrosa. 205 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: He got hurt that game. And he's also still in 206 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: a walking boot. So those are the injuries right now 207 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: going into tonight's game, and we'll have to tell you 208 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 2: tomorrow what the new injuries are, because it seems like 209 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: they lose one a game. 210 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: I get this text, and I understand it a little 211 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: bit right, and I want to get your reaction to it. 212 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: This is a plead directly at you, please, Russo, how 213 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: right now is? Tell us? How right now is not fools? Gold. 214 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: It feels like the past five years or so horrible. 215 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: October improved, November almost the best record in December, then 216 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: falling apart by March with poor player injury and barely 217 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: make the playoffs in first round exit. And if he 218 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: says it's different because of some guys first eight games 219 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: and we can protect project greatness, I'll know we're in trouble. 220 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: So what would you say to that, I think, to 221 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: a certain extent understandable skepticism. 222 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh of course, I mean this team is this 223 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: is I mean I said this to somebody the other day. 224 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 2: I've never covered a team where every single year they 225 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: look like the best team in the league for like 226 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: two or three months, so then they don't and then 227 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: they're not. And look, you know, the one thing I 228 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: do like about this year is that they are sustaining 229 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: the injury. I mean, you know, the last couple of 230 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: years to that, to that person's point, it's the second 231 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: they've gotten devastated by injuries, that they've fallen apart, and 232 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: this year it's been anything but that. They have been 233 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: just you know, ramp you know, ravaged by injury really 234 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: the last month, and yet no matter who is out 235 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: of the lineup, they seem to win. Now, the one 236 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,479 Speaker 2: thing they haven't sustained yet or an injury to either goaltender, 237 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: or an injury to Juel Risinek, or an injury to 238 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: Crow Caprice off for an injury in Matt Boldie the 239 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: last couple of years, those are the guys that would 240 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: come out of the lineup where things would fall apart. So, 241 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: I mean most teams are like that. If you take 242 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: Nathan McKinnon Cale mccarr out of Colorado's lineup, you know 243 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: what's going to happen. So you're seeing right now what's 244 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: going on with Winnipeg by taking their goalie out of 245 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: the lineup. So yeah, I'm not gonna sit there and 246 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: say this is the real wild I mean, you know 247 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: me too well for that, right you know. But but 248 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: right now, all I can say is that they are 249 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 2: playing really, really good hockey and this is what they 250 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: hoped coming into this year, is that if they continue 251 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: to give Bill Garron a reason to maybe go out 252 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 2: move later in the season, that he would do it. 253 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: And so now they're sort of back into that where 254 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: at the beginning of the season you don't know where 255 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: this thing is going. Now all of a sudden, when 256 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: he's talking trade, he's I think try to talk to 257 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: teams about potential substantive type moves, So we'll see what happens. 258 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: You know, the roster that's on the ice now doesn't 259 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: necessarily mean that's going to be what the roster looks 260 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 2: like on March eighth, the day after the trade deadline. 261 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: But I really do like obviously what we're seeing now, 262 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: and it starts with the goaltending. 263 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think what's fair to say, trying to keep 264 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: some measure of perspective, is that at the very least 265 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: they needed to turn around. They're a bad start, right, 266 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if they're still wallowing in a similar position 267 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: to where they started the season, the season would be over. 268 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: So absolutely, we don't know where it's going to head. 269 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: But that's the alternative, And that's why I don't think 270 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: there's any problem with sort of following this story and saying, well, no, 271 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: this is a reversal that was an instrumental and crucial 272 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: as a spark because it opens the door. Whether they 273 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: go through it and whether they take full advantage of it, 274 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: we don't know yet, But without it, we're done. Right. 275 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: You're talking about draft choices, yeah. 276 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: And maybe yeah, a lottery pick, maybe a new coach, 277 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: all that stuff, you know, look, I would have been 278 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: the last person on Earth on October thirtieth to tell 279 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: you to predict to you that they would be right 280 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: now twelve one and two in their last fifteen games 281 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 2: and on a twelve game point streak. I did not 282 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: see this coming. But what I do love about what 283 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: we're seeing now is that the guys that need to 284 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: play great are playing great like Matt Zugrello has. The 285 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: team has not lost in regulation since Matt Zucrello has 286 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: been back in the lineup, which is crazy. They're ten 287 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: h and two with him in the lineup. He's turned 288 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: cro Capriso back into what we all expect, and that's 289 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 2: the superstar. Matt Boldie has been as consistent a player 290 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: as there has been all year, and he's just doing it. 291 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: He's as good a playmaker as he is a goal scorer, 292 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:03,599 Speaker 2: and he's absolutely you know, from protecting the puck standpoint 293 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: to wall battles everything about his game right now. As 294 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: a lead Eric Sinek is on a nightly basis shutting 295 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: down other team's top players. Favor and Brodein have been excellent, 296 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: Middleton and Spurgeon are almost never on the ice for 297 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: goals against, anymore so, and then we as we mentioned 298 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: the goaltending. So this team right now is giving you know, 299 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: I think I heard you talking about this yesterday, or 300 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: maybe I heard comment it was one of you two 301 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: about the fact that, like, you know, the cynics out 302 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: there and we all know that I could be very cynical, 303 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: are just saying, well, wait till the playoffs. But look, 304 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: the whole point of professional sports is to enjoy what 305 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: you're seeing now, and right now this team has been 306 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: really entertaining to watch, and they're giving people a reason 307 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: to watch, and they continue to win games on a 308 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: nightly basis. So you know, nobody knows what tomorrow is 309 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: going to bring, but right now, you know, if you're 310 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: a wild fan, enjoy it until they give you reason 311 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: not to. Well. 312 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: I think it's a kind of conversation Louis and I 313 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: definitely got into two days ago. I don't know if 314 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: that was maybe there was a different one yesterday. I 315 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: think what I heard and that it's again, you can 316 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: both things can be true where we all know, we 317 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: all know ultimately how they're going to be measured and 318 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: what it's going to take. But if you're invested in 319 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: the team, you're watching now, and so to a certain extent, 320 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: then you're you're going to react to to you know, 321 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: to sort of what you you know, what you see 322 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: to to this point, eventually it might get juicy regarding 323 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: the goaltender, because, as you know, if once you get 324 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: into the playoffs, it can be it is easy second guess, right, 325 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: if you have a situation which you feel like you've 326 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: got cold number ones, there's still strategic decisions sometimes that 327 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: have to be made in the best of seven series, right, 328 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: and that's where it may get interesting. 329 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I mean maybe the rotate, right, if 330 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: they go eighty two games doing this and it's working, 331 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: maybe they do it in the playoffs too. I don't 332 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: think that's probably the right move to make. Look, i 333 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: mean Cam Talbot had a what twelve or thirteen game 334 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: point streak, can They started marc Andre Fleury game one 335 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: of the playoffs, and it obviously didn't go well. This team, 336 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: you know, in game one Philip Gustson in the Dallas 337 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: series fired a fifty game bullet and they came back 338 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: with a different goalie in the next game, and that 339 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: obviously backfires. So they don't always make the smartest decisions 340 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: with their goaltending. But we'll have to see. I mean 341 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: that's still what fifty five games off yep, you know 342 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: my guess, Like if we were there right the second, 343 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: I could see them starting with Gus just based on 344 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: the experience. But we'll see. I mean a lot of 345 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: things can change. Right now. Jesspervalstad has been as good 346 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: as it gets in the National Hockey League. And if 347 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: he has that, you know, it does this for another 348 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: fifty games with you know, twenty five thirty of them 349 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: being starts. I mean, things could very well change. 350 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: Well the clee as you know, the football cliche is 351 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: if you say you have two quarterbacks, you have none, 352 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: But that doesn't apply hockey. If you have two goaltenders, 353 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: you have two goaltenders, and so you ride it out 354 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: and and milk it at least through the length of 355 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: the regular season, and then you got some decisions to 356 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: make later for sure. 357 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: And the one thing I'll say about Waal said is 358 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: this guy is so supremely confident that I would feel 359 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: one hundred percent confident if I were the while putting 360 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: him in Oh Me Night, and it would be something different, 361 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: you know, like, look, we were all looking you know 362 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: that to the person that texted point, I mean, you know, 363 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: I think we're all used to seeing eventual downfall of 364 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: this team, and usually that comes in the first round 365 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: of the playoffs. Well, if you want to change it up, 366 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: yes and have finally something different, you might as well 367 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: go with a different goaltend there in there not that 368 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: Gus was at all a problem last year in the 369 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: Vega series. He was sensational, I thought, But the reality 370 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: is that would be one thing that's different, and this kid, 371 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: you know he is there's something about him that's pretty special. 372 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: Are you. 373 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: So what's the update on the scheduled cage match between 374 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: you and lanch Guy? Uh? Play guy? So for those 375 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: who haven't followed that story, set that up for us 376 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: and let us know how it has evolved. 377 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: Well, I haven't talked to him, but I don't think 378 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: he's probably happy with me. 379 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: You know. 380 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 2: Look, Uh, it feels like every single week on the show, 381 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 2: I'm in the middle of some sort of online controversy. Well, yeah, 382 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 2: as I always say, as I always say, I am 383 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: my father's son, I am a New Yorker, I am Italian. 384 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: There's a lot of a lot of things in my 385 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 2: blood that caused me to just one, you know, at 386 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 2: some point just go erupt. And there was the other night. 387 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: You know, I got home from the game, and I'm 388 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: seeing all this like wild fans going nuts and and 389 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out what it is. And I 390 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 2: know the two play by play guys for the Colorado 391 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: Avalanche are you know, very passionate guys. And so I 392 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: listened to the radio thing. And I love, like every 393 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: night after after a while game I I do. I 394 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: listen to all the gold calls. I listened to it 395 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: at home and away because I just love listening to 396 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: the callbacks, whether it's Lapant and Joe O'Donnell or the 397 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: road guys. And so I went and listened to the 398 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: the radio guy and and uh, you know Connor mcgahey 399 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 2: in Colorado, who's the broncos PA guy. He's a great, 400 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: you know, play that play guy, but he's passionate and 401 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: he gets really enthusiastic and and he took a shot 402 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 2: at Gus saying that he you know, or sorry walstat 403 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: that he was celebrating like he won the Stanley Cup, 404 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 2: which he did not. And I just, you know, here's 405 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: a rookie that just stopped Nathan McKinnon and cal mccarr 406 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: back to back. He's gonna have no reaction. Like goalscorers 407 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: are allowed to go crazy and jump in the glass after, 408 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: you know, if they score and make it six to one, 409 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 2: and a goaltender after the in the one moment, after 410 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: being in this pressure filled island for sixty five minutes, 411 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: he can't just react. I just thought it was stupid, 412 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 2: so I just pointed it out and the next thing 413 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: I know, as usual, I go to sleep and wake 414 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: up next to you. Biggest contract, biggest controversy in the NHL, 415 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 2: and unfortunately for him, everybody seemed to be on my 416 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: size side except for Avalanche fans and and so you know, 417 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: and then you know, the John Butchie grasses in the 418 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: world probably you know joined in and it didn't help. 419 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 2: It didn't help matters. 420 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: So thanks for joining. We will chat next week. 421 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: Have a great night, ye see it? 422 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: Dan, make sure radio helping us out breaking a little 423 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: bit early because we're out early today about six o'clock. 424 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: Wild Flames Tonight pregame show, because I guess Faalmas doesn't 425 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: want to work that hard, is scheduled to begin at 426 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: seven forty five opening face off just past eight o'clock. 427 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: As you're Minnesota Wild try to continue their very hot 428 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: ways as of late. 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He's a confirmed Vikings fan, Rube, 439 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: and I'm curious to get reaction on that part of 440 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: our conversation from the audience from Vikings fans, because in effect, 441 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: what he's saying is not only do I want to 442 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: see JJ McCarthy the rest of the season, I want 443 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: to see air McCarthy the rest of the season, even 444 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: if it's at the expense of a rational approach to 445 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: play calling, because he believes that there's nothing at stake. 446 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: Now at four and eight, you're not going to make 447 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: the postseason and it should be testing his passing metal 448 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: as an mett l Do you agree with that? Is 449 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: that the way to go? I don't think he wants 450 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: to see your guy Brozmer anymore. That was clear man, 451 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: because the other guy, yeah, Vicious, that's fine, demeaned your loyalty, 452 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: wanting to know if it was a bit, and I said, well, 453 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: I think it's eighty percent true. But in radio, what 454 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: happens is if something catches, then you kind of become 455 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: captive to it, and so therefore it becomes one hundred percent. Well, 456 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: you had to defend my honor. I didn't realize that. Well, 457 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: I did more generally, But I do think maybe I 458 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: have the wrong percentage. Maybe you would say it is 459 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I said eighty to eighty five. But 460 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: then when people get into it, then it's like, yeah, 461 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: well I got to stick with it. I got to 462 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: go with it until I until he throws a garrow 463 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: your premium, like pass Uh. It's funny that we both 464 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: he and I both have the same historical reference. Yeah, 465 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: that's that's that's ancient for sure, showing how old we are. 466 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: But I'm very curious to know whether you agree with 467 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: his view on that no other quarterback worth seeing because 468 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: I worry, I said, my concern about making it air 469 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: Mac is you run the risk of further traumatizing the kid, 470 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: despite his reputation is nine and the guy who bring 471 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: it on whatever you got, I just put an extra code, 472 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: I black on, I'll be fine. I don't think you 473 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: want him traumatize me the end of the year. And 474 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: I fear that if you go to air now, you 475 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: go to too much air McCarthy, Air Mac, that's what 476 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: might happen now. On the other hand, you might as 477 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: well test him in that area, one would hope. Being 478 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: a little bit simpler, as we talked about earlier in 479 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: the show, we've gone in just two or three weeks 480 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: from you know, koc talking about every fundamental flaw in 481 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: his form and his posture and his posture to just 482 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: start throwing it. Man worried about that nonsense. You're not 483 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: a statue, just throw it. So we've gone from one 484 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: extreme to the other. But you do need to find 485 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: out and that means you don't want him to throw 486 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: the ball nine times a game. So there's no one 487 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: else I don't think to look at the rest of 488 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: this season. Honestly, I really don't, with all due respect 489 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: to the other guy, because I think you have to 490 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: find out as much as one can, and let's face it, 491 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: it's a way to tank responsibly. Tanking responsibly means you 492 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: might deep down know that you're enhancing your draft position 493 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: with the approach you're taking, but you can't really be 494 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: you can't really be be ripped or taken to task 495 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: for your approach because you're trying to give your young 496 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: quarterback the experience that guys like Drake May and Caleb 497 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: Williams got a year ago, exactly right. 498 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 3: So as our great friends would say, we're not tanking, 499 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 3: we're developing. We're not tanking. Who they were developing, I'm 500 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 3: not exactly sure because they were tanking and then they 501 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 3: got Karl Anthony Towns, which worked out pretty well. 502 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: I'm not sure who they were developing in twenty fourteen 503 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 1: around there, But that's how you got to go about it, right. 504 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: Pretty much, we're not tanking, so do you. 505 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 3: I'm with Luger. Yeah, there's five games left. That's the 506 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 3: other thing. We're not talking about a slot a month. 507 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 3: We're talking about the month of December and you've got 508 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 3: three home games. You got some good opponents coming up, 509 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 3: obviously with Dallas and Detroit and Green Bay. Well, and 510 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 3: I'm not saying they should, Like I'm like luger light. Yeah, 511 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 3: Like I'm eighty percent of the way there. You gotta 512 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 3: just let him play and let him get out there 513 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 3: and not worry about the base body ball posture, bahamas, 514 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 3: feet and eyes. I mean, we've heard so many phrases 515 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 3: this year. It's like, and I'm a I'm a sideline 516 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 3: reporter for PJ. Fleck, and I feel like there's been 517 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,239 Speaker 3: too many phrases in this year, right, Like I'm all 518 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 3: about the phrases and all the things, but I feel 519 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 3: like we've had so many. Yeah, and well, i think 520 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: it's good for him to have some games that really 521 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 3: don't have any stakes. Now, just go out and just 522 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: get yourself comfortable. Here's the other thing, in all honesty, if. 523 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: If he's weak, if his constitution is so weak that 524 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: he could be traumatized, that in itself tells you you 525 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: got to find that out. So you got to find 526 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: that out, a little bit of the old you know, 527 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: throw into the deep end. But again I'd say, don't 528 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: throw him into the deep end, immediately throw him into 529 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: the You don't have to put him in the shallow end, 530 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: but somewhere in between, and let him get something going 531 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: in there. As we said earlier, you can kind of 532 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: build on it. I think all those things would make 533 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: some sense. Will come back with some texts on the 534 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: question I just asked. We may also get back to 535 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: a very nice performance and victory for the Golden go 536 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: for men's basketball team. The first game of the Nico 537 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: Medved Big Ten game of the Nico Medved era of 538 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: Golden Golpher men's basketball went surprisingly well inside the Bar, 539 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: and we might review a little bit of that as 540 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: well when we return it. 541 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 3: Show Rap presented by American Pressure Commercial grade Pressure Watchers 542 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: since nineteen seventy five. 543 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: It's the Bumper to Bumper Show Rap. Dan writes, eight 544 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: oh one, guy, you know exactly how the rest of 545 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: the season plays out. KOs is paid to do one thing. 546 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: Win. 547 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: He has a coaches record that matters to him. They 548 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: will not experiment like we're talking about. They will game 549 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: plan to win each game. Now that it doesn't matter. 550 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: We'll probably win more than we think miss the playoffs. 551 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: Put ourselves right in the middle of the draft. I 552 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: actually don't have a problem. I don't get as offended 553 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: by that as other people. As long as you're closer 554 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: to getting the McCarthy question answered, that's and if you 555 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: do that and win a couple of games you didn't expect, 556 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: that's fine. But it winning the game. I don't think 557 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: he can come at the expense and probably won't come 558 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 1: at the expense of finding out about McCarthy because he's 559 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: the guy who's gonna play, so presumably he's you know, 560 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: you're going to get a little better read on whether 561 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: he's starting to figure some stuff out or they're they're 562 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: they're adjusting some things in terms of what they expected 563 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: him or what they ask him to do, et cetera. 564 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: Agree with Luger and Carter and JG develop have offensive line. 565 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: Do their jobs support the kid who's Carter Chris probably 566 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: we had him on what two weeks ago? Yeah, but 567 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean, I don't know how. I'm 568 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: not sure I understand remember what he got into in 569 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: that regard anyway, Do their job support the kid less 570 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: talking psychic value evaluation, more action playing and slash playing instead, 571 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: that's what we're saying. I don't think Chris Carter was 572 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: saying it that much like O'Connell a lot, respectfully, though 573 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: perhaps he could tweak his postgame press conference out of 574 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: being in between Koc and Zimmer six point two Vike's 575 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: gal since the seventies. You also may have to evaluate 576 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: how sending McCarthy out there to wing it the rest 577 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: of the season affects your roster in future years. Are 578 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: they ready to trade JJ if Jefferson if things go poorly, 579 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: Possibly they are and look looking at a full rebuild. 580 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: But you can't look at the kid in isolation. No, 581 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: you can't. That's all part of the same, Amiba for sure. 582 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: I agree, hundred percent. Let him er it out. Let's 583 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: see what he has treat it like preseason trout, see 584 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: if we need to go in another direction, seek how 585 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: to starter at least somebody to compete for the job 586 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: this season. I'm really anti McCarthy at this point, but 587 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: he deserves a shot to see if he has potential. 588 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: Let's be real, he doesn't have a game plan that 589 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: includes anything but air mac. Yeah there's something to that now, 590 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: he he thinks. Last week, you know I showed I 591 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: made the ultimate sacrifice. You know I've called a bunch 592 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: of running plays until we got the fourth and one, 593 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: and then I had the boot perfectly called. If he 594 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: just actually, if we'd had the blocking executed properly, would 595 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: have been an easy touchdown. We might have scored fourteen 596 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: points on that play. Think about it. Had so many 597 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: people open, Greg would have loved it. That's true, you 598 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: said this layer Mondela guy. You said the showcasing McCarthy's 599 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: passing would be would be tanking responsibly. But wouldn't nine 600 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: throwing the ball forty times again be the equivalent of 601 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: Mark Manson shooting a dozen three pointers. Well, if it is, 602 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: we're in trouble. But I guess that's very pos. He 603 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: was coaching now, by the way, he said Col. Yeah, 604 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: he's been coaching for a coach. Oh, he's a head coach, 605 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: head coach at CAL. I think it's Cal. Yeah, the 606 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: Stanford grad he was at Cal at one point. I 607 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: don't know if he's still there. Yeah, he was in 608 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: the Lakers organization for a while. He had a team 609 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: in Utah for a while, and I'm pretty sure he's 610 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: at CAL now, mad Doc. I think the Tim Brewster 611 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: might be on his staff. Well, no, that'd be a 612 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: different sport, but with Tim you never know. You could 613 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: see him going anywhere. 614 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 2: Couldn't. 615 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: If you're a coach, you can coach, that's for sure. Also, 616 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: I want to remind you you're hearing the music early 617 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: or the rap I guess I should say early, and 618 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: you'll hear the Spinner's music early as well, because we've 619 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: got Vikings. This is Thursday, so there's this Viking's Uncensored, 620 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: It's the Vikings podcast, and then the Vikings Tailgate, and 621 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: then it's Wild Flames pregame show a scheduled to start 622 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: at seven forty five opening face off just past eight. 623 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: Timberwolves rematch in Nolans against the Pelicans can be heard 624 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: on the Timberwolves channel. Is that correct of your iHeart 625 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: Radio app? Yes, you should make it a preset. Only 626 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: joined us yesterday if you'd like to go back and 627 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: podcast that discussion. We did talk a little bit of 628 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: pro hoops today as well, with the news regarding Chris 629 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: Paul being unceremoniously unceremoniously dumped by the Clippers. Also want 630 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: to thank an outstanding array of guests today. Sean Salisbury 631 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: has never been better than he was between three thirty 632 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: and four Wait had no technical issues. That's very true. 633 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: He ran into a travel snaffoo. So we are hoping 634 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: to get bonus Salisbury tomorrow Russell Radio at five and 635 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: a good hour with Andy Lueger in studio bringing he said, 636 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: the whole family. 637 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: I think. 638 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: He's got five going to Vikings, Washington. He is still 639 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: bullish on the club. Grew up as a bit of 640 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: a Giants fan, but once he got here he has 641 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: never ever looked back. Tomorrow will be Friday Football Beast Day. 642 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: So in addition to the bonus Salisbury picks with Kerby 643 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: Guestling and Lavelle Golden go for men's basketball team first 644 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: Big Ten game of the season. They hosted favored and 645 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: undefeated Indiana. And he has got a new coach too, 646 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: don't they Darrenes and the guy who replaced Nico at Drake. 647 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, all those years ago. Yeah, So Nico 648 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: medved down to seven players and it was I felt 649 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: it was one of those games. What I did hear 650 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: of it. 651 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 2: Was early. 652 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: There are a couple times where I thought the game 653 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: was on the verge, are getting out it a little 654 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: bit out of hand for Indiana taking control of it. 655 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: But they never could, and then your club hit a 656 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: couple of late threes at the end of the first 657 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: half to make it was a tied at the half. Yeah, 658 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,959 Speaker 1: so at that point you're going, well, we're here, now, 659 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: what the hell, let's go win the game, which they 660 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: ultimately did, and they actually built the lead, right They 661 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: led by ten with the last couple of minutes. That's correct, 662 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: and a lot of it was a testament to I 663 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: think good effort on the boards. Indiana is not a 664 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: good rebounding team. Minnesota took full advantage of his exactly that, 665 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: even with their own injury issues, had a huge advantage 666 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: on the boards. I think by fifteen they doubled up 667 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: the Hoosiers on offensive rebounds. I don't know if that's sustainable, 668 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 1: but it came off as the sort of game where 669 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: you do, I think, get the feeling that you have 670 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: a coach who knows how to coach, who's not, as 671 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, I'm going to have to learn on 672 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: the job to become a head coach. That's the advantage 673 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: of having Nico Medved. Even if when he came here, 674 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: I know that there was massive fanfare, it's not like 675 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: he's a huge, huge name, but he'd already established his 676 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: coaching bona fides as a head coach. He'd been through that, 677 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: and these are the kinds of games that in this 678 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: market you gotta start at least trying to get your 679 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: share of them, because otherwise it becomes too easy to 680 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: go back to out same old Gophers. And really nothing 681 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: has changed. And I'm not saying this opens the door to, 682 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, winning ten in a row in the Big Ten, 683 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: because they have roster limitations injuries in it as well. 684 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: And as you pointed out earlier, the other thing is 685 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: he runs a really good offense and they reliably use 686 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: that offense to get good shots where it didn't look 687 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 1: like the last three or four minutes they were scrambling 688 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: right where it was like, okay, we're just we're just 689 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: gonna hope something opens up offensively. His offense runs well 690 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 1: and it's fun. The guy can coach, So the issue 691 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: will be garnering talent and keeping talent from this point forward. 692 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: I hope this isn't, by the way, a sign that 693 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 1: now that Indiana basketball is no longer undefeated, that Indiana football, 694 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: well all he started the whole week, you might be 695 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 1: they're undefeated stretch ends against the favored by I think five. 696 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: Last I checked five, five and a half okay points 697 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: the Ohio State Buckeyes. 698 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 3: Your guy Don Fisher has quite a day on Saturday. 699 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 3: He's doing the basketball game in Bloomington and then driving 700 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 3: up to Indy to do the Big Ten Championship. 701 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: He is one of those ageless wonders. 702 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 2: Guys. 703 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: If you found a photo of Don Fisher when I 704 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: was at IU, yeah, and he is already broadcasting, and 705 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: then compared it to a photo of Don Fisher like 706 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: earlier this week, you go, he's one of those people 707 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: that he's literally not aged. I's all believable. 708 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 3: I've met him only one time at Big Ten media 709 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 3: days in Indy where else. He came over to talk 710 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 3: to Grim and after he left, I said, who was that? 711 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 3: And he said that was Don Fisher, and I go, 712 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 3: that's impossible. There's no possible way that was Don Fischer. 713 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 3: The guy looked like he's forty six years old. He 714 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 3: looks like he could be one of my guys. And 715 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 3: he's been doing it for fifty two years. 716 00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: I think something like that. 717 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 3: It's over fifty. How is that Don Fisher? Grim's like, hey, 718 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 3: I know he's incredible. He was talking about golfing and 719 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 3: doing all this stuff. 720 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: He's good. He is really good. Oh yeah, he does 721 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: a really nice job. He's enjoying himself. Yeah yeah, texture guy, 722 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: this this encapsulated, it kind of captures it nicely. I 723 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 1: listened to the Gopher game on the fan, and it's 724 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: a miracle. The Gophers won despite the refs being clearly 725 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: against them. I don't know how you would have gotten 726 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: that impression listening to Grimmer. There were some questionable calls. 727 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 1: There were, of course, there were you always thinking moving screens. 728 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 3: A couple of things. Yeah, wait till you hear me 729 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 3: on mar against Maryland on Sunday. For the women, I'm 730 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 3: gonna go grim times ten. They draw a lot of 731 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 3: fouls Brenda Freeze's terrapins, So I'm. 732 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: Just warning you. 733 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, depending on how still highly ranked. Oh yeah, their 734 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 3: usual they're undefeated. Yeah, they're coming to the barn three 735 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 3: o'clock on Sunday. I still I still ower a pair 736 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 3: of hose. Remember remember when I yeah, remember when I 737 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 3: was she she had to like climb over us. This 738 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 3: was before you, right, I had to have been like 739 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 3: she was here interview up high at the barn And 740 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 3: and she ended up getting a run in her hose, right, 741 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 3: you know, so we we ower that. 742 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: I guess the coach, she'll be here Sunday if you 743 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: want to damn good follow up, Absolutely excellent coach, very 744 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: good program. 745 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 2: Is this winnable? 746 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's what you got. These are some of 747 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: the games you canna start winning. This is a huge game. Yeah, 748 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 1: can we score game? Problem defense? 749 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,280 Speaker 3: Not so much guarding everybody, so outside shooting or just scoring, 750 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 3: actually inside scoring, inside, scre scoring at the rim, as 751 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 3: they say, and that will be on the iHeartRadio app 752 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 3: as well. 753 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: Nix point seven even you don't even know that. If 754 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: you just look for the plus, you got it, then 755 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: you can what times kickoff three o'clock, three o'clock exactly 756 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: so right after the vikings. Okay, that's a good big 757 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: if you can get it. I'm looking forward to a 758 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: perfect thing. I'm excited for Sunday. How many years has 759 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: been since the Indiana basketball team lost their first game 760 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: before the football team? Probably never? That's pretty good. Yeah, 761 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: that's that's not a bad point. Yeah, it's got to 762 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: be fairly rare. I would say at this at this point, 763 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: we appreciate you listening full of I think three and 764 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: a half hour show tomorrow, but least so it's a 765 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: six maybe six thirty. We'll find out. As I mentioned 766 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: Minnesota Wild, I'm the fan Tonight that pregame show will 767 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: begin at seven forty five, opening face off just past 768 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: eight o'clock. Enjoy the rest of the evening and we 769 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: will talk to you tomorrow at three o'clock. Thank you 770 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: for the memories, Thank you for the great time. We 771 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: love your dad. Your job is done. We can go 772 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: home now. Well go twins. Thank you for the airtime, 773 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: and I'll talk to you soon.