1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:00,800 Speaker 1: Double. 2 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 2: I'm on the extra joining me now from the trip 3 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 2: Tim Ben's. By the way, the last segment bucked was 4 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 2: by Danny's Peacher and Hogies on Route eighty eight in 5 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: Bethel Park. Tim, we'll talk mostly Steelers, but what's your 6 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: take on the Jari deal. I'm not surprised that happened. 7 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: It happened a little sooner than I suspected. 8 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 3: But then again, maybe it's just the right time, right 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 3: after what we saw last night. There were a lot 10 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: of very typical Jari red flags. 11 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 4: That were out there. 12 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not sure what exactly it was that 13 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 3: caused the oilers to come off of the no retention thing. 14 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 4: Maybe it was getting pulling in the deal. 15 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: Is that official that the Penguins didn't retain any salary? 16 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 4: I saw it on Twitter a couple of times. I 17 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 4: don't know. Maybe that's been refuted since, but no, it's. 18 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: Not been refuted so but but I've kind of heard 19 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: that too. 20 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't know what it was. Maybe they 21 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: just got desperate enough. Maybe they thought that puling was 22 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 3: enough to make that worthwhile to pay it all. 23 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 4: I did like the one remark I can't remember who. 24 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 3: Had it out there, that said basically was Skinner for 25 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 3: Skinner East and also a more expensive Skinner, so that could. 26 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 4: Be a way to look at it. 27 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 3: People are panting it from Edmonton's point of view because 28 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 3: it's just more expensive version of the same. 29 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they needed to take a gamble. The other 30 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: guy proved he couldn't do it. I do think Jari's 31 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: more talented than Skinner, so I understand why they'd done 32 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: what they'd done. I think Kulak might fit in and 33 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: you know, be better than one of the left side 34 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: of d they got, although we were debating who should 35 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: sit if Qulac goes right to the lineup. And by 36 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: the way, Dubas said a couple moments ago, he's not 37 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: sure if Skinner at Qulak will be available for tomorrow's 38 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: home game against San Jose because of immigration reasons. That's 39 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: it's just tough to get through when you're coming in 40 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: to work. But yeah, maybe Qulec goes in for Watherspoon. 41 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: I think he struggled recently, and Graves has been a 42 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: pleasantly average. 43 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: Pleasantly average is a great way to describe I is 44 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: this all gonna be so well? Jarry has no such 45 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: issues because he was because he is Canadian, right, so 46 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: he can go right back over and then I don't know. 47 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. 48 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: I would think there would be the case and no, 49 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: maybe he should just stay until Epanton Blazer. 50 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 4: I can't help but. 51 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: Think that the president should get involved. Trump would straighten 52 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: this crap out, Yes, right, exactly. 53 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: I don't it's taking him so long to weigh in 54 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: on this burning topic. But yeah, he should just hang 55 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 3: out here and play against the Penguins to close out 56 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: the homestead. 57 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: Oh you know what's gonna happen Tuesday, Tim Jarry is 58 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: gonna be here with Edmonton and beat the Penguins in 59 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: a shootout, beat Hilloffs in the shootout. You know, we've 60 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: been debating if you're the coaches, do you play Jarry 61 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: versus Skinner. That's a direct comparison of the two guys 62 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: in the trade. But if the Penguins would play Showoffs, 63 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: that's a direct comparison of the two guys who were 64 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 2: the tandem just a week before. 65 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 3: Oh, for sure, it's more of a I think a 66 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: risk in that regard for the Pens, because you're right, 67 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: the narrative can be spun either way. 68 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: And you would say Skinner would be motivated play Edmonton. 69 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he did get him to the two finals, 70 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: but I think the feeling was that was despite him 71 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: and I tend to agree. 72 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: I just want to see Murrishaw take the reins as 73 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: fast as possible. But if it's all too fast for them, 74 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: I guess I understand. 75 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 4: But I really do think Mark that the timing is 76 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 4: right on Jari. 77 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: You know, Tim, you had to trade him whenever you 78 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: could dump the contract. The important thing was to get 79 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: rid of the next two years at five point three 80 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 2: seven to five MILI when the best he could hope 81 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: for was to be Morrischof's backup. 82 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: It doesn't really matter who gets the better goaltender by April. 83 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: What matters is this goaltender coming here is at half 84 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: the price. 85 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 4: I'm amplifying your point absolutely. 86 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: And and it's contracts up. He's a rental and he's gone. 87 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: And then you then you have Morischoff and Shiloffs, or 88 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: more Schoff and Bloomquist. They're more Schoff and whoever, because 89 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: Morrischof's the guy Tim moving on to the Steelers. Here's 90 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: kind of a broad question that I brought up. Has 91 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: having Aaron Rodgers been worth it. Seriously, He's only seven 92 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: and six, his stats are men, and he's only played 93 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: a couple of good games. 94 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: My definitive, blunt, without a doubt answer is I guess. 95 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 3: I think the cliche bark is what nothing ventured, nothing gained? 96 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: Well, they haven't. 97 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 2: No, I'm not being blanket critical of it, but I 98 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: think that probably like six and seven with Rudolph, and 99 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: not that Rudolph's the guy in the future, but every 100 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: year you spend bringing in this old, you know, homeless 101 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: looking guy, whether it's Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers, is 102 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: a year wasted, a year treading sludge. 103 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: I think Russell Wilson is a much better looking homeless 104 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: guy than Rogers, but Rogers might be the better homeless 105 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: guy at quarterback. Yes, and I don't even know how 106 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: to make Trubisky fit part of that, but he's basically. 107 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 4: The same version they're of, only less talented. 108 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: Well, Rogers looks like a pow. Trubisky held all of 109 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: us prisoner. 110 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 4: We were all hostages, not volunteers. 111 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: As Tomlin lakes to say, there you go. Yeah, so no, dear, 112 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: I mean I wasn't trying to do the same thing either. 113 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 4: I was not trying to make a blanket statement there, 114 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 4: But the theory of nothing ventured, nothing gain is. 115 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: Very prudent to attach to this because they didn't venture anything. 116 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 4: There's no risk associated with this. 117 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 3: Right, he's cheap, he can go at the end of 118 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: the year. 119 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 4: They're not putting themselves out and what else were they 120 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 4: going to get? 121 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: Because that is part of the equation too, is it 122 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: wasn't really Rogers or somebody else who was better because 123 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 3: they're never going to pay for Donald. 124 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 4: It could have Donald, but they weren't going to pay 125 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 4: for him. 126 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: Well, see this, this will sound ridiculous, especially given how 127 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: he's played for New York, but I would have gone 128 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: with Justin Fields just on the off chance he can 129 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: prove himself to be worthy moving forward. And if he doesn't, 130 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: you're in the same spot you are now having used Rogers, 131 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: you know, still trying to find your guy. 132 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: I think Fields. You know. The problem with Fields, though, 133 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: is they still would. 134 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 3: Have had something on the back end, whether it's dead 135 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: money or him here at a high hit. 136 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 4: They order to draft a quarterback next year. 137 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: They could have used him as the backup, I guess, 138 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: But how would that dynamic have been it's just cleaner 139 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: moving on from Rogers after this year, if they have 140 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: their quarterback at the draft, or if they have a 141 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,119 Speaker 3: quarterback that they can acquire. That's not the latest version 142 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: of one and done. But you know you've been on 143 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 3: the internet mark for the last forty eight hours. I'm 144 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: sure too, looking at various sites and tweets. 145 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 4: Oh, it's all. 146 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: It's a done deal before the Bengals gladly and willingly 147 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: trade Joe Burrow to the Pittsburgh Steelers because he's unhappy there. 148 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 4: That's the newest one that I'm seeing. 149 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, why would Joe Burrow want to come to Pittsburgh. 150 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: I mean, he got Jamar and t there if nothing else, 151 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: He'll get stats there, and if he had been healthy 152 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: all year, probably roughly the same amount of wins and 153 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 2: maybe even win the division. We're talking to Tim Benz 154 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: here on the X. Tim, if the Steelers are gonna 155 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: win this game against Mynai, how are they gonna do it? 156 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 2: Because I can tell you how Miami might. But that's 157 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 2: because they have an identity and the Steelers still don't. 158 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 5: Correct. 159 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: The easier way to talk about the winner would simply 160 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: be to say, well, Miami's gonna win because they're great 161 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: at running the ball. 162 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 4: And the Steelers suck. 163 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: It's stopping the run that's and it's happened before this year, 164 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: it's happened two weeks and will happen against Buffalo, and 165 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: there was enough run game shopped up by the Ravens 166 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: that they could have won through that part of their 167 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: offense alone. But you know, if you're trying to come 168 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: up with a way for the Steelers to win the game, 169 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: it's likely going to be they stopped the run enough 170 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: like they did against Indy and against Chicago, and they 171 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: turned the ball over on short fields that they accrue 172 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 3: enough points to beat Miami in a twenty something too 173 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: high teams kind of game, like a twenty five to 174 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: nineteen game, that that's probably. 175 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 4: The formula for the Steelers to do it. 176 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: And I will say this mark like when they when 177 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: they've done a good job against good running teams this year, 178 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: namely the Bears and Colts, it's because they essentially said, 179 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: we don't care what the quarterback does. 180 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 4: They let Danny Dimes try to beat him. He couldn't. 181 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 4: They stopped Taylor. They threw everything at Taylor. 182 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: They got ninety nine yards against them, but one of those. 183 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 4: Is a run from the wide receiver and scramble yards. Williams. 184 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: They really did a good job slowing down the Chicago 185 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: run game, Williams. 186 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 4: I guess did enough to beat them because their coverage 187 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 4: was horrible in the secondary. 188 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: But you know, if they are really committed to stopping 189 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: the opposing run, not caring what the other quarterback does 190 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: to them, then they can be proficient there and maybe 191 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 3: Toua will throw them the ball. 192 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: All right, that's not a bad plan with Tua. 193 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: If you want me to even go more basic, they 194 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: gonna lead somehow fluky or not, and then Miami has 195 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: to rely on Tua, right, and then. 196 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: Is doing less every week, by the way. 197 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 3: And that's probably part of the reason why they're in 198 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: it and still alive, and you know, a threat to 199 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 3: beat them is because they're leaning into what they do best, 200 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: which is run the football with a fast running back, 201 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: good run blocking offensive lineman in a good run. 202 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 4: Game scheme like they have now. 203 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: It is a real thing that they've talked about a 204 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: couple times this week, so at least they're cognizant over 205 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 3: on the South side about this as to how good 206 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 3: that Miami offensive line is particularly at the center position, 207 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 3: getting out, getting on the inside linebackers, getting to the 208 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: second level and creating those run seams for Chen to exploit. 209 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: So they know what those guys do well, you know. 210 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: Then again, we heard the same thing about stopping Cook 211 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: even perhaps before stopping Allen, and look how that turned out. 212 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: What's not gonna play? I'm not sure that's a big deal. 213 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: I don't think Herbig's played enough, and I think both 214 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: Herbig and Heismith have out performed a lot this year. 215 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 3: Frustration for me how they've handled the outside linebacker rotation. 216 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: I wanted to see more looks with three of them 217 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 4: on the field. 218 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: At the same time, I thought that was a way 219 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 3: to force her Big onto the field, especially in passing situations. 220 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 3: As the year goes along, they just get more and 221 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: more settled and more and more into their conventions, and 222 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 3: that includes using Watt and Highsmith almost all the time. 223 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: I understand that those are two run based defense offenses 224 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: that they just played last two weeks against Buffalo and 225 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 3: the Ravens, but there were plenty of pass opportunities for 226 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 3: Herbig to be in there more often, and he never 227 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: got to forty percent of the snaps, and that means 228 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: less of a chance in my opinion, to create negativity 229 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 3: on pass plays and get them off of their run comfort. 230 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 4: That never happened. And we kept hearing Mark, you. 231 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 3: Know, in August, September, October, especially when Herbig was playing 232 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 3: well and really becoming a splash player. Well, he can 233 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 3: make plays on pass downs because he's playing better on rundowns. 234 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: They kept telling us so much better he was against 235 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: the run, and then when the chips are really on 236 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: the table in that regard, they're kind of hiding him. 237 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: And same thing with Sawyer, who was brought here to 238 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: be sort of a hybrid version of a defensive end 239 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: and a linebacker who could pass rush but also be 240 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: stout against the run, and he's had eleven total snatch 241 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: the last two weeks. 242 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 4: I'm disappointed in that. 243 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: Tim. 244 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: One thing I find hilarious the Steelers have an old 245 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 2: depth chart and they find a way to make an 246 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: order with mvs and thling, and it's obvious Rogers has 247 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: bullied their way onto the field at the expense of Roman, 248 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: Wilson and Calvanos. In third, Rodgers has very quietly taken 249 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: over very passive, aggressive but he's in charge and I 250 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: can't help. But wonder if that's why Firemouth and John 251 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: who've been minimized because he likes the fat kid out there. 252 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 4: And he also likes receivers. 253 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: Remember Mark, we talked about this way back when in 254 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: August even I would say, going back to right when 255 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,599 Speaker 3: the Johnny Smith trade happened, and everything's sort of coalesced 256 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 3: with the roster finally being completed after the deal and 257 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 3: Rogers being signed. 258 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 4: That Rogers has had good tight ends in Green Bay, 259 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 4: good but nobody great. And maybe that was part of 260 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 4: the reason. 261 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: Why is is he always preferred throwing to wide receivers 262 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: and it was a weird fit, just like it was 263 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: a weird fit trying to force four guys onto the 264 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 3: field to tight end. And how strange it's been that 265 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: a teacher's pet and John news Smith comes here. 266 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 4: It is barely used. 267 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: But like I said, that's Rogers. Rogers has taken over. 268 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: And I think the way he talked about having those 269 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: guys out there, and even if I'm not throwing them 270 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 3: the ball, the fact that they're running the routes in 271 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 3: the right place and pulling the coverage away so I 272 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: can get the ball to DK that was like an 273 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 3: earworm for me, Like Okay, that's it, Like that's that's 274 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: gonna be the talking point for the next four weeks. 275 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: Here Tim, great stuff as always enjoyed the game. We'll 276 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: talk next to way you got it. 277 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 6: Mark. 278 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: Thanks, that's Tim Bens right now for calls on the fifteens. 279 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: Do you think having Aaron Rodgers has been worth it 280 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: for the Steelers this year? And I want your take 281 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: on the Jari deal as well. I'm Mark Madden one 282 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: oh five to nine. 283 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 7: It's The Woody Show weekday mornings at six well. 284 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 2: New Leus no matter what we do, so we might 285 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 2: as well have a good time. 286 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: Toe go hoe, gut txe. 287 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: We got Rotter McGroarty the Penguins at the bottom of 288 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: the hour if you're just tuning in. Jarry got traded 289 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: to Edmonton along with Sam Pulin, goaltender Stuart Skinner, defenseman 290 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: RTT Kulak, and a second round pick in twenty twenty 291 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: nine coming to Pittsburgh. Edmonton fans are reacting unfavorably. Not 292 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: that they were big fans of Skinner, who lost in 293 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: the last two Stanley Cup finals with them, but they 294 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: don't think Jarry is good enough. Well, he's probably not, 295 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: but are you gonna go out there and get who's available. 296 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: There's only like ten good goalies in the league, and 297 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: nobody's trading them. By the way, this kid debuted for 298 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: Montreal last nink Gold Jacob Foler first NHL game made 299 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: thirty six saves A couple of neat things about that, 300 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: even though I would prefer to have seen the Penguins win. 301 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: But father played for the Youngstown Fantoms right down the 302 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: road in the North American Junior Hockey League, and it 303 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: reminded me of seeing Ken Dryden make his first ever 304 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: start for the Canadians, first ever NHL start here in Pittsburgh, 305 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: So that was kind of cool. Despite the Penguin's loss, 306 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: a couple other Penguins moves because they're coming thick and fast. 307 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: Matt Dumba got waived. No word on if he's. 308 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: Cleared yet, and Harrison Brunick, as expected, has been loaned 309 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: to Team Canada for the World Junior Championships, but not 310 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: Ben Kendall, as a bunch of dopes up north had 311 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: tried to wish into existence time for calls on the fifteens. 312 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: Let's go to Brad, Brad, you're talking to. 313 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: Mark Hey, Mark. 314 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 5: In regards with it worth bringing Aaron Rodgers in for 315 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 5: the price, it would be hard to argue not. But 316 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 5: for what you got out of DK Metcalf and John 317 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 5: Us Smith. Their production to have dropped. 318 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: It's like, I don't care what you're getting on to them, Bro, 319 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: they're seven and six. You didn't bring Aaron Rodgers into 320 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: go seven and six and stumble into a playoff berth narrowly, 321 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: although the division. If it wasn't for the division, that'd 322 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: be dead in the water. But the division is so bad. 323 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 5: But no, I don't think if you couldn't get the 324 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 5: average numbers for both of those players out of Rogers, no, 325 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 5: it was not worth bringing him in. 326 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: Let's go to Nick. Nick. You're on with Mark. 327 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 6: Hey, Mark, I'm so excited to be part of the 328 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 6: fetch movement. 329 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 330 00:15:58,800 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: That is so fetch. 331 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 4: So I have actually two things. 332 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 7: One is, when you're talking about beating Miami, you know, 333 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 7: I think Tim is right when he alluded to the 334 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 7: only way you're gonna beat them stop the run and 335 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 7: let to a beat you, which the Steelers can do 336 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 7: because they can do a single objective stop the run. 337 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 7: They can't do both, so I think that's their best 338 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 7: option of being able to win is simply just by 339 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 7: stopping the run and hopefully things can push forward. But 340 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 7: it does scare me a little because you look at 341 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 7: the first game of the season, taking five turnovers away 342 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 7: from New England and still almost. 343 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 4: Finding a way to lose. I'm definitely not confident. 344 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, were you referring to the Jets game as well? 345 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: Because the Jets ran all over them and they, you know, 346 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: beat I think, the worst team in the league by 347 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: only a couple points. 348 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, the Steelers are vulnerable every game. 349 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: I think your notion of stopping the run concienting on 350 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: one thing, because they can do one thing on defense, 351 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: not always, they don't always even do the one thing 352 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: on defense, but that. 353 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, is their best bet. 354 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: Jay, Real quick, Jay, which part of real quick didn't 355 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: you get? 356 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 6: Yes, sir, listen, just two things real quick. I agree 357 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 6: with the trade Jori to Edmonton. Great trade. I think 358 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 6: that was a good move to get a couple of 359 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 6: guys in. But this is okay, we'll see what happens 360 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 6: with that. But also, the Steelers are no better than 361 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 6: last year, No way, no way, and they should have 362 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 6: never made that trade the Dallas for a wide receiver. 363 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 6: I just disagree with that. 364 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: Well, no, they wouldn't have found a way to get 365 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: Pickings involved with this offense. If they can't even make 366 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: proper use of DK, why would they make proper use 367 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: of a second receiver. I just don't think bringing in 368 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 2: Rodgers is worth it because you're only seven and six 369 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: and probably won't win a playoff game. 370 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call up. 371 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: Next, I'm gonna talk to Rutger mc groarty the Penguins. 372 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 2: He w on the Home of Depends one oh five 373 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: to nine. Listen to the X everywhere you go, nowhere everywhere. 374 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: Tell your sport device Alexa play one oh five point 375 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: ninety X on. 376 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio, Ho Ho Ho, and now the super genius Mark Madden. 377 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 5: Mark, you struck my last ner. 378 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: You say that like you think I would remotely give 379 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: a dump. But do go on t exit one oh 380 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: five nine. 381 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: Peg was a lot of exciting young town on the 382 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 2: ice this year. Joining me now is one of those players. 383 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: He is rookie winger. Rutger McGroarty Rotker big trade today, 384 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: a switch of goalies. 385 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: I know you've not been in the NHL very long. 386 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: But how does that shake up the dressing room? 387 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 8: I would just say, uh, we're we're super excited for 388 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 8: jars Uh to go to Edmonton and hopefully have a 389 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 8: lot of success, and then we're really looking forward to 390 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 8: get sir Skinner and and Kulak and it'll it'll be 391 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 8: great meeting those guys and having them help us win. 392 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: Now you're only twenty one, but people forget already that 393 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: you got traded from Winnipeg to Pittsburgh. That's a weird experience, 394 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 2: especially when you're that young, isn't it. 395 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's definitely a little different. You grow up, You 396 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 8: grow up watching the NHL and all the trades, so 397 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 8: so it's it's a weird feeling being a part of one, 398 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 8: for sure. 399 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: Now you had some good chances last night, Rodger, you 400 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: hit the post, you had some other good looks. You 401 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 2: gotta feel like you and your line are coming close. 402 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's coming for sure. We've got to stick to 403 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 8: the process though. It's all process oriented, and then it 404 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 8: can't be production oriented because I feel once you get 405 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 8: to that, then you start pressing and you start gripping 406 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 8: the stick. 407 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: A little tighter. 408 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 8: So we're just we're just sticking to the process right now. 409 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 2: Now, when you say the process, where do you feel 410 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: you guys are adding the process? What has to get 411 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: a little better for the results to reflect it. 412 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 8: I just think it's a comfortability factor. I think comfortability 413 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 8: of playing with each other, comfortability of being this league, 414 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 8: and then not deferring. I feel like we just got 415 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 8: to take the bowl by the horns and and just 416 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 8: shove a puck in the nut if it comes to that. 417 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 8: So I think I think we've been really close. I 418 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 8: think we're we're playing really well together. 419 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: Well, let's stick with that, Rutger. 420 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: Because you're on the line with two other young guys, 421 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: it's a lot of fun to watch you Ben Kindled 422 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: and Billy Cloyvenan. What's that like with the energy and 423 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: to kind of grow together as a kid. 424 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 8: Line, Yeah, it's super exciting. I think we're going through 425 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 8: it together. So it's so it's super easy to talk 426 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 8: to them, just kind of asking them what they're seeing, 427 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 8: how they're feeling, kind of just go through it together. 428 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 8: I feel like it's been a lot of fun and 429 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 8: we've continue to get better and better. So I'm just 430 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 8: looking forward to keep going. 431 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 2: Now, you're twenty one, the Kindle's eighteen. Does he make 432 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: you feel old at all? 433 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 5: Hey? 434 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel like the old man. I think it's 435 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 8: crazy seeing what he can do in the in the 436 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 8: league at such a young age. He's he's got a 437 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 8: really bright future and he's got a good, good head 438 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 8: on his shoulders. So I'm super excited to see see 439 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 8: what he does in the future. 440 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, eighteen, that that's pretty amazing. 441 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 2: Now, Dan mue said last night after the game that 442 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: you guys maybe to get to the chances quicker. 443 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: Do you know what he means by that? How would 444 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: you define what he said? 445 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 446 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 8: I just think being more efficient with with the opportunities. 447 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 8: I think that it's a fast league, and so defensemen 448 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 8: are are really quick, quick to close on gas and 449 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 8: get a stick in the lane. So if that's getting 450 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 8: a release off quicker, making a play a split second quicker, 451 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 8: it's just being more efficient with those opportunities. 452 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: Now, you played for coach muse with the US developmental 453 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 2: program Rutger, has that made your adjustment this year easier? 454 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 2: Do you know what he expects? Maybe more than you might. 455 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's it's definitely Ah, it's comfortable for me. 456 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 8: I feel like i've I know what to expect from him. 457 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 8: I think that he he respects hard work and UH 458 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 8: and our team loves working hard. So I think that 459 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 8: it's very fun for me to be be coached by 460 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 8: him again and it's been cool. 461 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: What do you feel he wants from you? Specifically? 462 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 2: If you had to describe what is expectations are for you, 463 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: what would they be? 464 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 8: I would just say I kind of like what I 465 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 8: was saying about working hard, driving poks down low, creating 466 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 8: opportunities from from below the dots. I think that I 467 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 8: like to play heavy game b B F one on 468 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 8: the four check, you the first guy in there, create turnovers, 469 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 8: and then responsible in my D zone. I think that 470 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 8: I like to play two hundred foot games, so responsible 471 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 8: in my D zone and then uh, just hunting pucks 472 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 8: in the ozone and creating opportunities. 473 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 2: Now, you talked about being F one on the four check, 474 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: and I think you've done that really well. 475 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: And for my UH. 476 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 2: Observation, you've improved your skate in quite a bit during 477 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 2: your time as a pro. What's that process been like, 478 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: what what's the work like? 479 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a lot of work. 480 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 8: I mean a lot of people don't see what goes 481 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 8: on behind the scenes, but I think that are The 482 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 8: development staff that we have here, from top to bottom 483 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 8: is incredible. So it's it's a lot of a lot 484 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 8: of stuff in the in the gym and then a 485 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 8: lot of stuff on the ice. So Jeff Murray, he's 486 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 8: our head skating guy here. He's He's been incredible for 487 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 8: me and I can't thank him enough. 488 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 2: Now, you miss training camp in the start of the 489 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: year with an upper body injury, Rodker, what's it been 490 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: like catching up and you feel like right now you're 491 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: at one hundred percent. 492 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I'm definitely still growing. I feel like 493 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 8: missing camp with an injury definitely sucks. I had a 494 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 8: huge summer and I was really looking forward to coming 495 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 8: into camp and making it make an impact from day one. 496 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 8: But obviously that's going to happen, so I just kept 497 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 8: kept my head in it statementally locked in and now 498 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 8: I uh. I went down to Wilkes for for five 499 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 8: games there. I really liked my game there, and then 500 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 8: since I've been in the NHL, I'm just getting more comfortable. 501 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 8: I feel like I'm creating more opportunities. I'm starting to 502 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 8: find my game at this level, and uh, it's only 503 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 8: up from here. I think I'm just going to continue 504 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 8: to get better and better. 505 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 2: I agree, and I think defense is a big part 506 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: of that for you. You have pretty solid defensive acumen 507 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: for a younger player who drilled that India, because that 508 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 2: had to have started a long time ago. 509 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 8: Yeah, my dad's always been a coach, so I've always 510 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 8: been around the game, and I think that you can't 511 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 8: take care of things on the offensive side as if 512 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 8: you're not taking care of him on the defensive side. 513 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 8: I think a lot of offenses generated from the D zone, 514 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 8: and so managing that end of the ice leads to 515 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 8: better opportunities on the offensive side. So I would say 516 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 8: my father really really drilled that into me just from 517 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 8: being in the ranks since I was three days old. 518 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 8: I think that he's he's really instilled that in me. 519 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 2: What's the Sydney Crosby experience been like being on his 520 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: team and him being your captain. I always joke with 521 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: Sid that he's in a dressing room full of people 522 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: who were his biggest fans. 523 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's cool. I think I think Sid is a 524 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 8: really really good human. I think that he leads by 525 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 8: example every single day, and he drags us into the fight. 526 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 8: So I think that him being able to do that 527 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 8: night in night out is really cool. And then also 528 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 8: you've seen what he's done throughout his career and what 529 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 8: he does on a nightly basis, So it's been really 530 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 8: cool to be a part of. 531 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: And uh yeah, Well, one thing I've noticed is, you know, 532 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: Sid stays out on the ice for extra worker lot 533 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 2: the Penguins veterans doing. You young guys, you stay out 534 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: there with him every chance you get, don't you. 535 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 536 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 8: I think anytime you can learn from guys like that, 537 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 8: if it's Sid, Gino, Uh Tanger, Carlson, Rusty, I think 538 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 8: that you can pick up on little things that they're 539 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 8: doing and and little things that they see. So anything 540 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 8: that we can. 541 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 6: Pick up from them is a plus. 542 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 8: So I think that being able to play with those 543 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 8: guys in practice with them and getting to pick their 544 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 8: brains has been great and really cool. So we we 545 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 8: definitely take every opportunity that we can to to get 546 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 8: to talk to them. 547 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: Now, you guys have had a couple of tough losses 548 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: at home. 549 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 2: After a pretty good road trip back at home tomorrow, 550 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: Gainst San Jose, how do you guys get back on track? 551 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the I think the Dallas game and 552 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 8: I think the Anaheim game. I think we got some 553 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 8: really good opportunities. I think that just bearing down last 554 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 8: night wasn't wasn't a great start, and I think that 555 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 8: we definitely have better. 556 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 4: I think it. 557 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 8: Starts with starts with our work ethic and starts with 558 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 8: our execution. So I think that going in tomorrow's game 559 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 8: basement just has to be hard work. I think everybody 560 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 8: has to be working hard and and uh and driving 561 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 8: the play and then just executing the small details like 562 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 8: little passes, stopping in our spots, getting pucks out on 563 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 8: the wall. The little details add up to the big things. 564 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 8: So take care of the small things and uh and 565 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 8: eventually and we'll hopefully we get two points from that. 566 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: Finally, R Kurt, I always ask all the young guys this, 567 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: because you're just twenty one, This is a lot of fun, 568 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: isn't it. This NHL is then it's got to be 569 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 2: the time of your life. 570 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's pretty cool. I mean, you you grow up 571 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 8: always dreaming of this opportunity, and now that you're here, 572 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 8: you just you just want to stay so I think 573 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 8: that I haven't really thought about it in that winning 574 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 8: of just like this is awesome. I've just more than 575 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 8: trying to come in and help the team win in 576 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 8: any way possible and try to play my game and 577 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 8: try and make an impact in every game. So obviously 578 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 8: it's very cool, but I also I want to be 579 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 8: here and do my thing and try and help the 580 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 8: team win. 581 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: Rodger, great stuff out there, Thank you for taking a time, 582 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: good input, and I'll see at the rink tomorrow. 583 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 8: Perfect sound good. 584 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 6: Thank you so much. 585 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: That's Rutger mcgrorty. He can talk, he can play too. 586 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: Penguins hosting San Jose tomorrow. Hopefully get off the snide 587 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: with these two losses in a row at home. If 588 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 2: you're just tuning in, Big trade Jari to Edmonton along 589 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: with Sam Poulin for goalie Stewart Skinner, defenseman Brett Kulack 590 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: and a second round pick in twenty twenty nine, and 591 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 2: I really will be dead in twenty twenty nine. Another 592 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: news item I want to touch on. I'ld that Terry Pigola, 593 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: the owner of the Buffalo Bills and Buffalo Sabers and 594 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: a huge Penn State alum. You know he built the 595 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 2: ice rink up there. He's the guy who wanted Franklin 596 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: fired and paid his nine million dollar buyout out of 597 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 2: his pocket. That's how bad he wanted him gone. Is 598 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: it good or bad that that guy can make that decision? 599 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, And also I want some calls. Has 600 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: it been worth it the Steelers bringing Rogers in this year? 601 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: Has it turned out like it like you hoped? One 602 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: oh five ninety x