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Speaker 3: Oh Nicks on the Broncos being underdogs to the Packers.

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Speaker 1: As we typically do.

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Speaker 3: On Wednesday's a little after four thirty four to forty five,

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Speaker 3: continue to have this sort of disrespect and again locally,

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's the case obviously, but from a

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Speaker 3: Literally the words that were used by a writer from

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Speaker 3: Ringers a big one. They called the offensive performance versus

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Speaker 4: For the Broncos, like, why, what would how would they

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Speaker 2: What did they not like about it?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll just I'll read you.

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Speaker 3: So, I don't think it's unreasonable for anyone to think

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Speaker 3: AFC West leading Broncos and the Raiders. And that was

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Speaker 3: the case on Sunday. Denver's offense was disgusting again against

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Speaker 3: one of the league's worst units, and quarterback Bonix now

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean I would I would say this, I

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Speaker 2: Meaning that score.

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Speaker 4: seven points that game, that game was not a seven

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Speaker 2: I mean the Broncos so dominated that game.

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Speaker 4: They had three drives of almost nine minutes or more. So,

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Speaker 4: I mean, are there things that realistically, you'd like to

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Speaker 4: They found ways to win games. I think it's a

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Speaker 4: And if you watch the game then then I would

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Speaker 4: You can't argue with the quarterback rating, which I'm not

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Speaker 3: So I was thinking about it in terms of the

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Speaker 3: But I started to think about, as you play this

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Speaker 3: But you get to the postseason, there's gonna be a

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Speaker 3: If it's Buffalo, for example, the Buffalo Bills will be

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Speaker 4: That doesn't mean they're not dangerous, that doesn't mean they

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Speaker 2: But I think the only way the.

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Speaker 2: You're going to win.

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Speaker 3: But it reminds me and I know that we've made

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Speaker 4: In the twenty fifteen seeds, the Broncos were a seven

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I just remember.

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Speaker 4: I think I think this is a really good defense,

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Speaker 4: fifteen and fifty two and ninety two and others. They've

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Speaker 4: I mean the number one seed I think is important

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Speaker 2: But to me, that's exactly this year, give it everything.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly how the Broncos should be thinking they should

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Speaker 2: One of those years. Folks, it might just be what

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Speaker 4: Well, they're tied now with the Patriots, so it has

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Speaker 4: Well, that would require the Patriots to go four and

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Speaker 4: go three and one. The Patriots have the number one seed.

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Speaker 4: Patriots play Buffalo, Patriots play the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Yep, doing the South top of head Ryan. The other

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Speaker 1: Are I know the Jets are in there and the Dolphins.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think this I think, I mean, I

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Speaker 4: But realistically, the way the Patriots are playing, I would

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Speaker 4: I mean, this weekend you've got two very very big

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Speaker 3: what what's the number of that game? Just out of

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Speaker 4: Say Casey would be a two point favorite, four and

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Speaker 5: Really, that's to me, that is very telling. The Chargers

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Speaker 5: I don't know Herbert's It was painful to watch Herbert

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Speaker 2: Actually, Philadelphia had five turnovers, right right, I think I

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Speaker 1: I imagine that's good.

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Speaker 3: It's so tough under the circumstances because it is the

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Speaker 4: Well, what has to happen now with Casey losing this

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Speaker 1: Well, they went out just to get to ten. They're

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, let's just say they do went out. Are

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Speaker 2: I don't believe Chargers are four. No, Troncos are three

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Speaker 1: That's correct, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, So if the Chargers and the Broncos would finish

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Speaker 2: Do the Chargers have the tiebreaker in terms of that.

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Speaker 2: Would have beaten the Broncos twice.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I can't have that. Yeah, Now I don't see

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Speaker 4: Ryan Chargers are in Kansas City, we know, the last

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Speaker 3: So they've got at the Chiefs at the Cowboys. That's

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Speaker 2: That's no gimme. Yeah. I don't see the Chargers win

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Speaker 5: I I think there's a chance by the time we

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It may be meaningless in terms of winning the AFC West,

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Speaker 4: but I doubt very seriously it's going to be meaningless

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, Deva would have to be win three and

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Speaker 4: We really never has to match New England's record of

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Speaker 1: We will be really remarkable.

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Speaker 3: Is if the Chargers seating can't improve with a win

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Speaker 4: Maybe, I mean, just maybe the Chargers could pull off

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Speaker 2: Yeah, be kind of cool. Could Joe get traded again?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, say they cut him. There's seasons over.

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Speaker 5: Say they cut your Flacco and then he's available for

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Speaker 4: Jonah forty. Right, Yeah, he's a youngster compared to Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 3: To Philip Rivers, did you see him warm up?

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Speaker 3: I'm wondering when they officially announced because right we talked

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Speaker 4: Press are talking favorably about how Rivers is already acclimated

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Speaker 1: It's just so it's it's unprecedented.

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Speaker 3: I mean when we say those things, and sometimes it

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Speaker 1: To, and they're better.

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Speaker 3: See that's the thing I could say though, based on

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Speaker 3: So that by itself is also remarkable to say out loudly.

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Speaker 2: Was Jonathan Taylor to turn around?

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's got Tyler Warren and Michael Pittman and Alex Pearsman.

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Speaker 3: They got there loaded with talent.

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Speaker 2: He's got kids older than Tyler Warren. Think about that.

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Speaker 3: how much roster turtle are I suppose so nine starters

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Speaker 3: weren't even playing in the league.

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Speaker 2: I mean, where was this Michael vickopp when he went

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Speaker 2: to prison.

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Speaker 4: Four year or four probably, I think he was in

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Speaker 4: prison for two or maybe twenty two months or something

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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 5: Obviously he was much younger when he came back, and

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Speaker 5: Philip Rivers, but he was out several years, I believe.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think.

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Speaker 1: Five no, no, I don't think five no.

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Speaker 2: I don't not long.

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Speaker 3: Well way, the Broncos practice report had some pretty good news.

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Speaker 3: DJ Jones got a full practice in today. Good, that's

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Speaker 3: gonna be a big deal. Nate Atkins was limited been powers.

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Speaker 3: I saw powers limited. Probably should not.

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Speaker 4: Report this, but I did see him getting some individual

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Speaker 4: work and so it's good to just good to see

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Speaker 4: him back on the right track.

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Speaker 2: I mean, who knows when he's going to be ready?

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Speaker 1: Would you?

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Speaker 3: And this is all hypothetical, when he's ready, is he

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Speaker 3: immediately your left guard?

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Speaker 4: I think it depends on how you feel Alex Paulchwski

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Speaker 4: has played. I think it would depend on the staff

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Speaker 4: and how they feel. Paulchessky, what sort of you know

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Speaker 4: bump has he given him? How's he been in past protection,

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Speaker 4: how's he been and if he if he's playing to

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Speaker 4: the level that they had hoped he would play, or

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Speaker 4: maybe a level that they're very happy with, then I

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Speaker 4: think you got to think twice about making a change.

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Speaker 4: Now if and only the only ones that would know

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Speaker 4: would not be anybody in the media, including me, It

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Speaker 4: would be those coaches that look at that, look at

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Speaker 4: the practice tape every day, and look at the game film. Now,

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Speaker 4: if they felt like, hey, gosh, I mean he's done okay,

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Speaker 4: but we are limited in a few things, and Ben

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Speaker 4: Powers was healthy and ready to go, well, then maybe

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Speaker 4: in that case you make the switch.

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Speaker 5: You know, the stats and analytics, which I know you love.

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Speaker 5: Ryan showed that they ran the ball better with Ben Powers.

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Speaker 5: When Ben Powers went down, they weren't running the ball

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Speaker 5: as well. Then, of course JK. Dobbins goes down later,

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Speaker 5: But it does feel like they found their running back

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Speaker 5: in RJ.

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Speaker 2: Harvey, and he looks like he could be special.

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Speaker 5: He really does the way he catches the ball, which

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Speaker 5: I think is a bonus.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they, I don't think anybody really.

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Speaker 5: He looked at him as a guy who's going to

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Speaker 5: catch a lot of balls out of the backfield like

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Speaker 5: he does. David, you mentioned that early in the season,

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Speaker 5: just how comfortable he looks catching the football, and now

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Speaker 5: he's figured out how to run the ball.

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Speaker 2: He could be special for this team.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 3: And you wonder early on in the season when JK

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Speaker 3: was running, and you're right, Ben Powers was having a

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Speaker 3: great start to the season if that had a little

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Speaker 3: in the Roctor. Yeah, in the run game. Certainly, you

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Speaker 3: guys want to listen to some highlights from around the league. Yep,

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Speaker 3: all right, let's get through it, all right. Let's start

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Speaker 3: here with the Buffalo Bills and a comeback win over

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Speaker 3: Grant Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Burrow under center on first and ten for the thirty

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Speaker 4: three and it's intercepted. Jumping up in the air is

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Speaker 4: Bedford gets away from barrel thirty twenty ten to five.

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Speaker 1: AFC Defensive Player of the Week has done it again,

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Speaker 1: Christian Bedford with a go ahead touchdown.

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Speaker 3: That is Chris Brown WGR Sports Radio five point fifty in.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo, thirty nine to thirty four. It's a snow game.

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Speaker 1: I love NFL snow games there. They are a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun.

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Speaker 3: But sometimes, Dave, they can lead to some wacky results,

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Speaker 3: and this was one of those Bills that have scored

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Speaker 3: twenty one points in the fourth quarter to come back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I actually got a chance in the booth wherever we

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Speaker 4: were to watch.

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Speaker 2: Sort of the comeback.

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Speaker 4: And I mean, Buffalo's defense has been so maligned this year,

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Speaker 4: but in that game, they played great and they needed

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Speaker 4: him to because there were there were times that I mean,

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Speaker 4: they couldn't when Joe Burrow was on the field, they

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Speaker 4: had hard time get them stopped.

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow threw four past touchdown passes yep in the game,

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Speaker 3: but two interceptions, including that pick six rick Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And of course Josh Allen's Superman. Yeah, you know you

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Speaker 5: can never kill him.

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Speaker 1: Forty yard rushing touchdown in that game. Amazing, It was

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Speaker 1: really really amazing. The Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: Initially looked like they got a good beat by the Falcons,

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Speaker 3: but Hattime came and Rashid Shaheed showed up sh from

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Speaker 3: the goal line. Their rightside numbers up the field ten

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Speaker 3: twenty looking for a gap.

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Speaker 1: He's got one. He's dropped to the racers.

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Speaker 6: Lookout, this could be at fifteen, burning, burning, They're not

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Speaker 6: gonna touch him ten five.

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Speaker 7: He looks back cuts down, say Hawks.

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Speaker 6: What a way to start got second half?

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Speaker 1: See Rabel Dave Wyman chuckling in the background. Seahawks broadcasting

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Speaker 1: k I r SO is sixth all at halftime.

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Speaker 6: Rick, they went thirty sevens at nine, as far as seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Points in the third quarter, fourteen in the fourth. But

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Speaker 3: Seattle's legit. Could they be a super Bowl contender?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, They're a super Bowl contender in the NFC. I

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Speaker 5: like them on the Rams and Seed a wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: We talked about this on the show that we were

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Speaker 5: hoping the Broncos, yeah, would have picked up. He's really good,

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Speaker 5: gonna be a difference maker for them. So you think

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Speaker 5: about Seattle, Dave.

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Speaker 2: I like him a lot. I think they're really good

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Speaker 2: on defense.

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Speaker 4: They can run the ball, and Sam Darnold is kind

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Speaker 4: of settled in to that role.

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Speaker 2: I agree with Rick.

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Speaker 4: I think Seattle is a very scary team, especially if

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Speaker 4: they can get you in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: In Seattle, you.

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Speaker 1: Mentioned the Rams, they were dominant again.

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Speaker 3: Stafford gets a new possession in plus ta ritzor short

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Speaker 3: set of ball fit.

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Speaker 1: He wheels, he deals jumping.

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Speaker 6: At the five pooka gun on one play a thirty

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Speaker 6: one yard strike Hookah Loukoa with a new career high

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Speaker 6: in touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Just a cool name. Poka de Coua.

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Speaker 2: What a great player too. JB.

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Speaker 1: Long sevent ten ESPN Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: He had seven catches for one hundred and sixty seven

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Speaker 3: yards and two touchdowns. Rams won forty five to seventeen.

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Speaker 3: But I can't even say it was really that close.

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Speaker 3: They had a total of twenty fourth or thirty four

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Speaker 3: points through the first three quarters.

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Speaker 5: You could put Matthew Stafford on any team and they'd

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Speaker 5: be good, other than the Lions, of course, back when

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Speaker 5: he was on the Lions football team. Surprisingly they couldn't

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Speaker 5: win with him. But Matthew Stafford man, I'm a huge

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Speaker 5: fan of his. Great quarterback.

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Speaker 4: I think the thing with the Rams this year, I

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Speaker 4: mean Matthew Stafford. You didn't mean he got He was

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Speaker 4: ginged up in training camp, so you weren't really sure,

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Speaker 4: and he's older. But he's back and now to me,

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Speaker 4: he's playing just like you expect matt Stafford to play.

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Speaker 2: The biggest thing for me for the Rams has been

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Speaker 2: their defense. Right. The young defense at times has.

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Speaker 4: Looked really good as long as you had Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 2: You are capable in that running.

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Speaker 4: Game, and the guy designed in the offense is pretty

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Speaker 4: damn good too. You are capable of beating anybody anywhere.

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Speaker 4: That should be scary, I think for really good NFC teams.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the Texans Chiefs is all Texans over

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Speaker 3: Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: Two receivers left and right.

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Speaker 7: Shotgun snapped the Bahols back to throw on second at ten.

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Speaker 7: He looks, he double clutches, he throws, He's bobbled. It

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Speaker 7: is intercepted, maybe looking for a single. I think the

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Speaker 7: Texans picked it off. Uz al Shire intercepted it off.

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Speaker 7: The deflection had the Texans have their third takeaway of

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Speaker 7: the game.

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Speaker 1: But that hit Kelsey in the hands again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was Ryan Radkey Mike Golick with Westwood one.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, how do you describe.

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Speaker 3: We see the Texans and they're just kind of a

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Speaker 3: rocket shift right now after the Broncos lose to the

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Speaker 3: Broncos and they just kept winning after that. Meanwhile, the

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Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs in all these must win games, they

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Speaker 3: keep losing.

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Speaker 2: Two things.

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Speaker 4: One you sort of expect Houston, at least I do

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Speaker 4: to be that way every single week defensively, because they're

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Speaker 4: really good on defense.

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Speaker 2: What has surprised me is and now they got CJ.

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Speaker 4: Stroud back, they've been better than I thought they would

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Speaker 4: be on offense. And so they're not scary to the

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Speaker 4: level of Matthew Stafford and the Rams in the NFC.

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Speaker 2: But I think.

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Speaker 4: Anybody, because of the Texans defense and now Stroud is

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Speaker 4: back healthy, I think they're a tough They're a tough

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Speaker 4: matchup no matter who they play and no matter where

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Speaker 4: they play.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, nobody's gonna want to play them in the postseason

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Speaker 5: if they get in that that defense is so good. Uh,

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Speaker 5: they're a better football team that people thought they were

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Speaker 5: when the Broncos beat them down in Houston. That defense

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Speaker 5: will keep them in every game.

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Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers. How about the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: All these people calling for Mike donalind to be fired,

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Speaker 3: and they beat the ravens of multipore hard Jackson rush

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Speaker 3: coming from the backside, he's.

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Speaker 1: Hit, take it down, hits.

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Speaker 7: He spit with the sack back at the thirty eight

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Speaker 7: yard line, and that will do it.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers.

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Speaker 7: They are back in first place by themselves in the AFC.

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Speaker 3: Nor it's Rob King one two five WDVE and the

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Speaker 3: Steelers audio network.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was some controversy in this one, Dave.

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Speaker 3: Did you see the catch there from Isaiah Likely two

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Speaker 3: steps third didn't quite miss.

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Speaker 4: You're asking the former the NFL wide receiver to define

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Speaker 4: exactly what is the catch these days in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: And honestly, I I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess by rule it wasn't a catch.

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Speaker 4: It's like the Desbriant catch he has a playoffs a

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Speaker 4: few years back at Lambeau. To me, that was still

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Speaker 4: is always will be a catch, but it wasn't a catch.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. Ask Rick, Yeah, well, I really

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I.

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Speaker 5: Was gonna say about Lamar just seems like he's lost

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Speaker 5: some mojo this year.

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Speaker 2: There's something going on with him.

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Speaker 5: I know he's been banged up a lot the last

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Speaker 5: couple of seasons, but he just kind of lost a

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Speaker 5: little bit of his magic and he's like, and it

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Speaker 5: doesn't look good on him.

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Speaker 3: The Jacksonville Jaguars they keep rolling dropping his trouble looking

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Speaker 3: looking He's gonna run it.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna fire into the back of the end zone.

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Speaker 6: Im all caught up touchdown, touchdown, No earth, there is

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Speaker 6: a flag down.

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Speaker 1: It is caught in the corner of the end, zme,

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Speaker 1: but there is a flag down at that time. Tim

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Speaker 1: Patrick held off. Tim Patrick. Frank Frazi there, Jaguars Radio Network,

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Speaker 1: w j X. Hell.

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Speaker 3: Now, of course this is the game that Daniel Jones

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Speaker 3: went down, but it didn't seem to matter. Jacksonville thirty

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Speaker 3: six points, Trevor Lawrence two winner, forty four passing yards,

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Speaker 3: two passing touchdowns. Travis et In had seventy four yards

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Speaker 3: two touchdowns as well.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars looked pretty good.

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Speaker 8: Dude.

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Speaker 5: I still don't know what to think about Jacksonville, a

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Speaker 5: bit up and down that you seem to be playing

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Speaker 5: better now when you really need to be playing better

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Speaker 5: here in December. Still not sold on Trevor Lawrence. You

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Speaker 5: know at crunch time, Well you will find out.

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Speaker 1: What about you, Dave?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've seen I think they're more of

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Speaker 4: a roller coaster team than maybe some of the other

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Speaker 4: AFC teams, which, really, after I said that doesn't make

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Speaker 4: a hell of a lot of sense because they call

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Speaker 4: Bronco games and that's been a bit of a roller

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Speaker 4: coaster right too.

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Speaker 2: So I get that.

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Speaker 4: I've seen Trevor Lawrence where it's like, Okay, that's the

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Speaker 4: guy that was the first pick in the draft not

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Speaker 4: that many years ago, and see where he hasn't looked

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Speaker 4: that way. So him not fearful of the Jaguars. I

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Speaker 4: don't underestimate them. I think they've got a very good defense.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of funny the teams in the AFC, the

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Speaker 4: the contending teams when.

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Speaker 2: You think about it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the Chargers are a defensive oriented team, the

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Speaker 4: Texans same thing.

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Speaker 2: You could make the case the Broncos are.

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Speaker 4: New England has a good young quarterback, but that's a

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Speaker 4: run team and a defensive team. It's sort of everybody

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Speaker 4: is just sort of packed in the defensive talent and

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Speaker 4: they're building their teams around it.

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Speaker 2: And I got to say, I think it's pretty smart.

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Speaker 2: That's old school.

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Speaker 1: It is, indeed.

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Speaker 3: A last one. The Broncos opponent this week, the Green

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Speaker 3: Bay Packers survived the Bears.

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Speaker 8: Second and ten Chicago forty five of the Packers, working

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Speaker 8: from left to right in the shotgun, here's the snap

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Speaker 8: Jordan love Blet's on. They pick it up good block

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Speaker 8: that time from the running back glove, rainbows, middle.

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Speaker 2: Touts down forty five yards.

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Speaker 3: Waye Larvy, Larry mccaeron jumping in there. Packers Radio Network

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Speaker 3: on that call. Keishawn Nixon had the interception, the game

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Speaker 3: sealing interception that ended up getting the Packers the win.

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Speaker 4: But Wayne's done that in a long time. Wayne used

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Speaker 4: to be the voice in the Sea Buffs back in

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Speaker 4: the day. Really, and I would I would say this.

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Speaker 4: He's one of the very few radio play by play

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Speaker 4: guys that has been the voice of one team and

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Speaker 4: then changed in the same division be the voice. He

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Speaker 4: was the voice of the Bearer and then became the

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Speaker 4: voice of the Packers.

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Speaker 2: He was also the voice of the Indiana Pacers. I

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Speaker 2: mean he's kicked around multiple pieces. He's very good at

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Speaker 2: what he does.

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Speaker 5: Did Michael Parsons knocked the nail Paulo shop of Caleb

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Speaker 5: Williams like he threatened?

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Speaker 2: Did that ever happen?

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Speaker 3: I don't think he got a sack in this game.

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Speaker 3: But I mean he's he impacted a lot of plays.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he he does like no matter what. He

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Speaker 3: gets a lot of pressures. But I mean Jordan love

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Speaker 3: Man thirty four to three touchdowns. They push the ball

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Speaker 3: down the field.

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Speaker 4: I mean the Broncos, I will say this, have been

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Speaker 4: pretty damn good at when a team comes into play

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Speaker 4: and they've got one.

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Speaker 2: Of I like to call those guys. They have done

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Speaker 2: a nice job.

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Speaker 4: You think of Miles Garrett, you think of Max Crosby,

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Speaker 4: you think of the big defensive end linebacker for the

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Speaker 4: Chargers to Leo Mack. They've they've been pretty good at

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Speaker 4: coming up with the game plan that allows them to

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Speaker 4: deal with that one guy, and.

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Speaker 2: They've got another opportunity on Sunday. I like our tackles

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Speaker 2: D two. Both of them playing really well.

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Speaker 1: No doubt about it either. You let's start to look

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Speaker 1: around the league a week fourteen. We'll right back Okawa