1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Catty a cheater, one sake, bouquet of roses at a time. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 2: Four of the Roses starts right now on Katie WB. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 3: Okay, I want to let you know we've had some 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 3: unusual war of the Roses lately, and this one fits 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 3: right into that one. So this is not just like 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 3: they're cheating. I'll want to find out who they send 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 3: roses to. This is I want to have Madison explain 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 3: the whole thing, because you know the story better than 9 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 3: I do. Madison, you're on KATIEWB. Go ahead and tell 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: us what we're doing today. What's up? 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 4: Hi? 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: So, yeah, I, my husband and I have not been 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: having the best time lately, Like things have been very 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: weird at home. And so he was caught the other 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: night by my friends. 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: He was up. 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: Holding this woman from like behind, undeniable. 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 5: Stuff's going on. 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: My friend saw him and took pictures and sent them 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: to me. 21 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: Okay, what did you see in the pictures? 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: Kind of like you remember that Chris Martin thing. It's 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: not funny then, yes, Like he's just like got his 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: arms around this woman. 25 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 5: It's like noodling her and it's just undeniable. 26 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 3: Okay, So so he's out and you maybe did you. 27 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: Know he was at or did he lie and say 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: he was somewhere else? 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: Oh no, he's been lying up the storm about everything. 30 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 5: I didn't know where he was. 31 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 3: So what a dummy to go to. Yeah, there are 32 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 3: gonna be people who might know you. And sure enough, 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: your your who was it your sister that. 34 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: Who saw him? 35 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 5: My friend? 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: Okay, so your friend sends a picture? 37 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 5: Yeah okay, yep. 38 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: And so I am just like he gets home and 39 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, get your shoe and get out of here 40 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: because I showed him the pictures. 41 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: Oh boy, yeah, and he deny that. 42 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, you just can't. 43 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: And so anyway, he's been gone since then, and I'm 44 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: just assuming he's probably staying. 45 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 5: With this person. 46 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: And I have her number because my friends knew her 47 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: and gave me her number, and I I just. 48 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 5: Want to like. 49 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: Tell her that he's married or you know, was what. 50 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 5: It's not going to be long, but. 51 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: Like, okay, so they're both dumb. So they go to 52 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 3: a place where she knows people. Uh huh, he knows people. 53 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: What would make you do that unless you're like I'm 54 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: so into this person and I'm so done with my marriage. 55 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: I don't care who sees. 56 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 6: Like, but at that point, just leave, like, leave your partner, 57 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 6: your you know what I'm saying, don't go. 58 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 5: I can't. 59 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: So we're not calling to find out whether he's cheating. 60 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: What are we calling? 61 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 5: Who? 62 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: We got her phone number? We're calling her I. 63 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 7: Want to I don't. 64 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: I hope, I mean, I hope she doesn't know that 65 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: he's married. I just want to tell her this person 66 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: is actually married. So, you know, I feel. 67 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 8: Like ninety percent of the time i'd say that the 68 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 8: person does not know that their partner is married. 69 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know about that. I think initially, oh, 70 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 3: one hundred percent. There are so many people that are 71 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 3: willing to cheat with married people. Yeah, oh one hundred percent. 72 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 73 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 6: Shout out to your friend for telling you, for getting 74 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 6: you this girl's number. 75 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: Your friend came to clutch, can't for taking pictures. Yes, 76 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: she came out good. 77 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 5: Friends, had a good husband. But I got a good friend. 78 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: She ever thought about going in the FBI? 79 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: All right, we'll make the phone call. Well, well, I 80 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: will get her on the phone. Okay, I'm not sure 81 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: we've never done this before, but we will just say hey, 82 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: I'll just tell her who I am. It's like all right, 83 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: it's Dave Ryan over Kato. You be there's somebody on 84 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: the phone that wants to talk to you. Let's just 85 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: try that. 86 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, let's do it. Okay, we'll do it when 87 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: we come right there. 88 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 8: Spoiler alert, someone's about to get exposed. 89 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: Part two of Where the Roses starts right now on 90 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: one on one point three kd w B. Well, it's 91 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: a different War of the Roses this time because she 92 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 3: knows her husband has been seeing this woman, and didn't 93 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: she kick him out of the house. 94 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: I mean, she's like, you had to go. 95 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so she wants to call the woman that 96 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: he's been cheating with and tell her I don't know 97 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: if you know this, but that's my husband. 98 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and just like kind of catch him in the act, 99 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 4: like I know, and. 100 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: Then see what this other woman said. 101 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 102 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a great idea or a 103 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: bad idea. It is an idea though, it is for sure. 104 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 3: Let's make the phone call on kd WB and see 105 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 3: what happens. Hi, I'm calling for Justine. Please, Hi, Justine, 106 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: It's it's Dave. Dave Ryan over at KDWB Radio. And 107 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: do you ever listen to KDWB. 108 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 9: Yes, did I win? 109 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: No? Oh? 110 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 3: Ouch no, But that's a logical question because but here's 111 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 3: the funny thing. I don't quite know how to break 112 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: this year. First of all, nobody died, okay, but I 113 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 3: don't have the best news for you. 114 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: Nobody's in the hospital. Nobody died. 115 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: But there is somebody on the phone who called me 116 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: and asked me to call you so she could speak 117 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: to you here on KATIEWB. 118 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: Do you know a woman named Madison? 119 00:05:58,760 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 6: Uh? 120 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, Madison. 121 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: Is here on the phone, and Madison wants to talk 122 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: to you. 123 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: Okay, Oh there, I just heard that. 124 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 5: You do know who I am? I just. 125 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 9: But I was hoping to give you the benefit. 126 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 1: Of the doubt and let you know that Troy is married. 127 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 5: If you don't know, is a liar. 128 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: Oh, I know he's married, Madison. 129 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 5: I know he's married. 130 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 9: I know all about you. God, this is so weird. Yeah, 131 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 9: I've heard all about you. I know how you treat him, 132 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 9: I know how you won't touch him. I know all 133 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 9: the things I've heard you talk about him. 134 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 4: I know. 135 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 136 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, why are you calling? Wow? 137 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 5: I am so stunned. What Wow? 138 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: You are? 139 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 9: Really? 140 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 4: You? 141 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 9: I am? 142 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: I thought like I would call you and give you 143 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt, you. 144 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 9: Know, but because you don't what. 145 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: For not not being part of something like this? But 146 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: I guess not my mistake. 147 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 9: Oh my god, listen you. He tells me all about 148 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 9: how you you spend all your money on, like stupid 149 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 9: things like designer bags that are half are fake and wow, 150 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 9: sad mouth him constantly. You're not a good wife, You're 151 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 9: not a happy marriage. I don't know why that, you know. 152 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 9: Are you surprised that he is not wanting to be 153 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 9: with you anymore? 154 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: You guys, I guess to have my answer. This is 155 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: an you know, this is sign you guys deserve each other. 156 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: I thought you would see you. 157 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 9: Just want the drama. You went on the radio to 158 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 9: do that, and you thought you're gonna have that big 159 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 9: confrontation and turns out, jokes on you, Madison. You have 160 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 9: done this to yourself. 161 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 5: Now. The joke's on you because you're stuck with this nasty, 162 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 5: nasty man. So okay, that's all I wanted you guys. 163 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 5: Thank you harng him on. 164 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 9: No, it's all right, I love it. 165 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 5: Bring it. 166 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 7: You ruined your own. 167 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: Marriage, honey, you wrecked your own home. Madison, Okay, good, 168 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: you guys deserve each other. 169 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 5: Thank you. 170 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: I don't want to pick sides here, but they both 171 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: sound I don't know. Somebody did text in and say, 172 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 3: Justine sounds hot. 173 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. 174 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 3: Really, that's the point if that's what you got out 175 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: of this war with the Roses, is that Justine sounds hot. 176 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: Another text says Justine sounds drunk. 177 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 6: Well, okay, maybe she says it so that he was married. 178 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that's the crux of it. She knew that 179 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: he was married. 180 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 6: But Dave and I said, there are plenty of people 181 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 6: that are fine like sleeping with people know when they're married. 182 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 183 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 4: I felt like I was watching back and forth on 184 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 4: like Real Housewives kind of situation, like it was Caddy. 185 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 8: Argument a little bit like that. Yeah, there was less 186 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 8: swearing than there would be a Housewives. But yeah, no, 187 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 8: I agree. I just think that anyone is ridiculous to 188 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 8: start a relationship based off of cheating. 189 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 190 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 8: I know there's a lot of people out there that 191 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 8: like that's how you ended up with your partner, but 192 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 8: I think it's a long road of trying to build 193 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 8: trust in a relationship like that. 194 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: I totally agree. I just it sucks that it does happen. 195 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: It is a reality. I think you're right, it is 196 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 2: a reality. 197 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: We can all sit there and judge, but I don't 198 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: know people will you know, people will do what people 199 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 3: will do, and we can judge. But sometimes it does 200 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: work out. Maybe there's a couple that should have never 201 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: been married. But I mean the obvious thing is to like, 202 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 3: well leave and break up before you cheat. 203 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: But I don't know. What do you think? What did 204 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: we miss? On War of the Roses. 205 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 3: There's a text that says that wife sounds like an 206 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: absolute d bag. I'm not surprised the guy is cheating. 207 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: Wow. 208 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: Another one says this lady is awful. I know he's married. 209 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 3: How dumb is this lady? Of course, the cheating husband 210 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: complains about his wife. 211 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: Well yeah. 212 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: Another text says, so who gets the flowers again? I 213 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: think you might have missed the whole point War of 214 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 3: the Roses. On Katie WB, we do have somebody on 215 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 3: the phone with a commentary. Tolanda Yolanda, Good morning, Jolanda, 216 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: Hi Jelanda, good morning. 217 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: Your thoughts. 218 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 7: Please have a little input on that. For the lady 219 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 7: who's cheating with the cheating her husband, Justine, he's sound 220 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 7: to be pretty happy and believing of the of the husband. 221 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 7: What are he's saying about his wife? That is the 222 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 7: typical cheating husband. Oh my wife is so bad and 223 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 7: she does this, she puts me down and she buy 224 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 7: a designer bag. She buy me buy her own bag 225 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 7: because he can't buy her bag. 226 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: Talk about talk about it, Golanda. 227 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 9: It's not even that a married man period. 228 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 4: Honestly, that's thanks for calling in, have a good day. 229 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 4: This this text agrees that they say. I feel like 230 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 4: people that blindly take someone's word about how terrible their 231 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 4: spouse is while they're cheating deserve. 232 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: What they did. 233 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. 234 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 8: I would also say, be wary of someone who constantly 235 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 8: says that their ex was crazy. Yeah, because that's like 236 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 8: a lack of emotional maturity. 237 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 2: What if they really are crazy? Though? 238 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 3: I think about this once in a while. It's like, 239 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 3: you know what, you know, if Susan and I split up, 240 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be like, oh, she's crazy, she's crazy. But 241 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: Julie I would have said she's crazy because she was 242 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: the meanest woman I've ever met in my life. 243 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 4: Was she crazier to just do things that you didn't like, 244 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 4: like actions. 245 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: Her actions were things. 246 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 3: You didn't like that too. Yeah, she wasn't crazy, You're right, 247 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 3: she was very, very lucid. Yeah she wasn't crazy. But 248 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: she was a mean, mean woman. 249 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: But I still loved her because sometimes you do