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Speaker 1: Win a thousand dollars. It's the keyword. What's the keyword website?

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Speaker 1: What's the keyword dollar?

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Speaker 2: Dollar?

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Speaker 1: That's dollar. Hey does anybody? Does anybody cover the Bengals one?

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Speaker 3: Esp No?

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Speaker 4: Oh, ESPN fifteen thirty. Hey, what Cincinnati's sports station.

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Speaker 2: It does not matter. It does not matter who's on

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Speaker 2: this radio station. It doesn't matter what they do to it.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who's on in what spot.

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Speaker 1: This promo will outlive us all.

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Speaker 4: No one covers the Bengals that matter. Yes, Timeless fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati's sports station.

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Speaker 2: Promo is like absolutely timeless. Hosts may change, times may change,

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Speaker 2: the teams may win, the teams may lose. But I'm

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Speaker 4: No one covers the Bengals like ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. That's that's the beauty of this right.

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Speaker 2: That thing, well, that thing is made of teflon. That

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Speaker 2: promo that they this consortium of radio stations may be

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Speaker 4: No one covers the Bengals like ESPN fifteen to thirty,

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Speaker 2: Hi, my name's Mawager. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for joining us. I hope you're having

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Speaker 2: an unbelievable Thursday where it's like fall. Now we have

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Speaker 2: Two weeks ago, three weeks ago, everybody was like, you

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Speaker 2: know what, the Packers might be the best team in

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Speaker 2: our buddy Bill Michaels, who's from Cincinnati. That is coming

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Speaker 2: up in just about ten minutes. Full show preview is available,

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Speaker 2: by the way, at Moegger on Twitter thanks to Shareffacts

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Speaker 2: We are going to do a normal or since I'm

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Speaker 2: and by the way, Al Golden, since the entire premise

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Speaker 2: Bill Michaels from Elder High School is the king of

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee and Wisconsin sports talk radio. I watched a show

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Speaker 2: This guy's swamp because you got the Brewers game four,

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Speaker 2: You've got everybody in Wisconsin waiting to find out who

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Speaker 7: What's got me? Probably the most.

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Speaker 9: I'm a part of Vice Channel doing a documentary on

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Speaker 7: Entertaining to do.

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Speaker 2: I was asked by a fellow graduate of yours in

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Speaker 1: The shine has come off. What's gone wrong?

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Speaker 7: To be an even worse offensive line. If you look

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Speaker 9: He's only got one pick, but he hasn't played to

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Speaker 9: And when I did the comparison, you go back and

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Speaker 9: It wasn't until they took over and maybe their third

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Speaker 9: That's what you're waiting on with Jordan Love. Now I'm

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Michaeh Parsons. That was the Michaeh Parsons revenge game,

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Speaker 7: Dak Prescott got rid of the ball real quick.

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Speaker 7: So we had to drive to Green Bay.

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Speaker 9: But it all started in the trenches. They don't have

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Speaker 2: I attended the last Bengals Packers game in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 9: Just get the Lambeau and get out and walk, you know,

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Speaker 7: But just still walk around.

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Speaker 2: While I have you and you're always good with your time.

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Speaker 2: How much do they hate Luke Fickle up there?

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Speaker 9: With a passion, Absolutely with a passion. They don't feel

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Speaker 9: They went after Luke Fickle, so he already Fickle had

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Speaker 9: It just they have no intestable fortitude, and that starts

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry, it just does. And I love Luke. I've

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Speaker 9: The program, and I thought what he did in Cincinnati

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Speaker 7: Side of the football. And so I'm rooting for him.

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Speaker 9: But I think we did the eulogy today that if

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Speaker 1: I think I'm in the minority, but I root for him.

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Speaker 2: Too. It just it went south quickly. Are the Brewers

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Speaker 7: Night now goes.

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Speaker 9: They would then have the Packers. Remember went in got

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Speaker 9: the Hollis Trophy at Soldier Field. When on the Super

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Speaker 9: Bowl two twenty eleven, the Brewers won one sixty three

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Speaker 9: the playoff game at Wrigley Field to win the division

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Speaker 9: in advance and playoffs from there and knock him out

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Speaker 9: of the postseason. How apropos would it be to win

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Speaker 9: the NLBS at Wrigley Field, so Chicago for everything they

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Speaker 9: had going for him and all their arrogance, they can

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Speaker 9: suck it, because they can. They just we own them.

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Speaker 9: And I love it because we've always been looked at

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Speaker 9: it as the redheaded step child just above you know,

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Speaker 9: Wrigley North.

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Speaker 2: So kiss my butt, all right, I'm rooting for it

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Speaker 2: and enjoyed the game on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: You're the man. Thank you as always.

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Speaker 7: Hi, Buddy thuk you.

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Speaker 2: That's our guy Bill. That guy is like massive. He's

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Speaker 2: on like a million radio stations throughout Wisconsin. He's on

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Speaker 2: for four hours every single day. He's got a YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: He's awesome about what he does and always kind enough

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Speaker 2: to join. We had him on before the Reds played

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Speaker 2: the Brewers and that was cool, and whenever the Bengals

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Speaker 2: play the Packers every four years. Bill joins us and

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Speaker 2: he's from Cincinnati. Worked here for like I think our

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin sports, the king of making his money is our guy,

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Speaker 2: Lee Sterling.

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Speaker 1: He joins us.

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Speaker 2: Twenty four from four. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Moegger.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening on Thursdays at this time. We

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Speaker 2: talked with our guy Lee Sterling by the way three

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Speaker 2: and all on this show last week.

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Speaker 1: He has crushed it for us four years.

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Speaker 2: He'll crush it for you if you go to Paramount

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Speaker 2: sports dot com and he's.

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Speaker 1: On Twitter as well at Paramount Sports. Lee. What's up.

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Speaker 7: I'm good. I'm good.

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Speaker 11: Can't complain everyone who's calling this happyes that's that's a

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Speaker 11: fun feeling. Want to you know, I know it's he

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Speaker 11: didn't pass away or anything, but I want to relay

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Speaker 11: my condolences to Tony. So thank you, big loss. And

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Speaker 11: I know what it's all about. I encourage anyone. I

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Speaker 11: obviously live in Miami, but I tell them, you know,

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Speaker 11: support your local radio. And I've had a couple of

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Speaker 11: great successes. Even the guy does all the papers, you

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Speaker 11: know for driveway He was doing it sponsor my segment

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Speaker 11: for two years, and all of a sudden he stopped,

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Speaker 11: and I said, what happened? He goes, I don't have

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Speaker 11: enough cruise to do all the work. So he goes,

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Speaker 11: until I get more cruise, I can't keep advertising. So

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Speaker 11: that's a good thing to happen. So anyone out there listening,

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Speaker 11: you have a business, support your local radio shows and

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Speaker 11: hosts and advertise and it can really pay off.

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Speaker 1: We'll give you commissioned Lee. Thanks so much. Okay, no problem,

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Speaker 1: Well well said, and thank you.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about what's going to happen at Nippert Stadium

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Speaker 2: on Saturday. The Bearcats are hot, one of four teams

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Speaker 2: undefeated in the Big Twelve. Beat UCF on the road

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Speaker 2: last year, Big favorites at home on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Do they win? Do they cover.

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 11: The biggest question, we don't know who's going to play

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Speaker 11: quarterback central full I mean, David Jackson last week was playing.

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Speaker 11: They're doing great, they're up by two touchdowns. He gets hurt.

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Speaker 11: We don't know if he's going to be able to

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Speaker 11: give it a go. If not, it's Jae Curry Brown,

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Speaker 11: who is here in Miami. Cam Fancher. These two guys

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Speaker 11: are retreads. Retreads, so you know if that's the case,

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Speaker 11: I mean, this is uncharted territory, not used to being

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Speaker 11: a double digit favorite here in conference. But bottom line

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Speaker 11: here is UF They're running back Miles Montgomery ran for

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Speaker 11: one hundred nineteen hundred and ten yards the last two

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Speaker 11: weeks and they lost and still didn't cover here. So

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Speaker 11: this is a team the defense since they held UCF

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Speaker 11: to thirteen points last year against a better UCF offense

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Speaker 11: in Orlando, and betting on Scott Frost since he left

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Speaker 11: the first UCF gig has been like dropping money onto

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Speaker 11: a pile of dollars soaked and lighter fluid. Bout City

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Speaker 11: Cincinnati forty one seventeen.

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Speaker 2: I love it least Sterling Paramount sports dot com. Do

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Speaker 2: we have blowout City in the tilt between Ohio State

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Speaker 2: and Illinois with the Buckeyes a larger than two touchdowns favorite.

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Speaker 11: But since they lost Ohio State to Michigan, they're nine

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Speaker 11: and oh straight up eightho to one against the spread.

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Speaker 11: You want to step in front of this bus, I

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Speaker 11: mean probably not going to be pretty here. So it

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Speaker 11: is the first time these teams have played each other

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Speaker 11: since twenty seventeen. It's the number one statistically ranked defense.

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Speaker 11: Last week, Ohio State just did a number on Minnesota

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Speaker 11: here in Illinois. Their offense looks better, but their defense

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Speaker 11: looks for worse. And I didn't like their play calling

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Speaker 11: in the second half. So Ohio State, I mean, they

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Speaker 11: could literally have four or five guys being the top

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Speaker 11: ten if they just based it on talent and output

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Speaker 11: for the Heisman voting day. Are that talented? I think

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Speaker 11: Ohio State gets the job done here thirty eight twenty.

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Speaker 2: This is our guy Lee Sterling from Paramount sports dot

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Speaker 2: com making us some money on college and pro football.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Sunday at lambeau Field. Joe Flacco in

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Speaker 2: the Bengals, which I still can't believe. I'm saying that

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Speaker 2: Joe Flaco and the Bengals big dogs on the road

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Speaker 2: against the Pack.

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Speaker 11: I mean, Jimmy Testaverdi wasn't available. I mean, come on,

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Speaker 11: I mean this is ridiculous. Do they really think that

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Speaker 11: Joe Flacco? I mean, he looks pretty much the same

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Speaker 11: in the uniform at maybe twenty eight years old.

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Speaker 7: He evades the rush a little bit.

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Speaker 11: This could get ugly. I don't get this also if

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Speaker 11: I was forty years old, I played many years in

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Speaker 11: the NFL's him, if they wanted to trade me to

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Speaker 11: another division opponent, he played so many years for the Ravens,

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Speaker 11: your third and four teams, I would say no way.

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Speaker 11: I had it happened to me my senior year. We

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Speaker 11: graduated eighteen out of twenty two starters.

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Speaker 7: It was me and three other seniors.

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Speaker 11: Left the top high school in the county. Came to

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Speaker 11: me and said, hey, you want to come play here.

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Speaker 11: I'm like, no, we're rivals, not going to happen. I

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Speaker 11: don't get it here. I think Zach Taylor is. The

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Speaker 11: writing seems to be on the wall. Most of the

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Speaker 11: twenty four points they scored it Detroit came in garbage

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Speaker 11: time sixteen to forty run to pass split when Jake

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Speaker 11: Browning was playing at quarterback. I mean, that's not going

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Speaker 11: to get it done here. And the Packers are usually aggressive,

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Speaker 11: scripted their plays to the start off a road loss

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Speaker 11: and a road tie, they probably aren't going to be

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Speaker 11: Flatski here, blowout city here, Green Bay thirty eight fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I think you might be right. Lee Sterling is

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Speaker 2: with us. You are game of the week. I think

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Speaker 2: is a fun one Indiana seven and a half point

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Speaker 2: dog against Oregon.

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Speaker 11: Great game. This could be the game of the week.

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Speaker 11: A couple of these quarterbacks they're talking now. These two

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Speaker 11: guys could go in the top five in the NFL

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Speaker 11: Draft in the first round.

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Speaker 7: First five callers.

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Speaker 11: Get it for free. Call eight hundred four hundred nine

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Speaker 11: seven four to one. Give you the Oregon Indiana game.

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Speaker 11: Two top ten teams eight hundred four hundred nine seven

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Speaker 11: four to one coming off at eleven and one.

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Speaker 7: Weekend.

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Speaker 11: Last weekend, worst weekend we've had the last three weeks

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Speaker 11: is nine and five. We don't call it October. We

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Speaker 11: call it October. Use coupon code stay one hundred just

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Speaker 11: three hundred and ninety seven dollars. That's right through the

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Speaker 11: end of the month on our phone service, just one place,

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Speaker 11: Paramount sports dot com.

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Speaker 2: Let our guy Lee Sterling do the work for you.

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred four hundred and nine seven four one Paramount

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Speaker 2: sports dot Com. You're the best. We'll talk next week.

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Speaker 7: Thanks Moe See, but that's our guy.

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Speaker 2: Lee Sterling, Paramount Sports dot Com. Robert Wintroub on the

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Speaker 2: Bengals at four to twenty. I think that number, by

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Speaker 2: the way, for me, it's a little bit too much

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Speaker 2: to go either way. I could see the back door opening,

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Speaker 2: by the way, nearly did on Sunday. Uh, excuse me,

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Speaker 2: in the game against Detroit. Let's be honest. This has

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Speaker 2: disastrous potential. Disastrous potential. Jake Browning playing against the against

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Speaker 2: the Packers disastrous potential as well.

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Speaker 1: It does.

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Speaker 2: I hate, I hate to frame it that way like,

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Speaker 2: but uh, I as as these things go, and we've

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Speaker 2: talked about it a lot this week, I'll take the

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Speaker 2: guy who's a quick study, Chad Brand. Chad Brendle just

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Speaker 2: got off the air and he's gonna join us to

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Speaker 2: talk UC football and basketball next.

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Speaker 5: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 6: one three five eighty four pink. In Sharonville on northbound

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Speaker 1: Three reported the Bearcats. Why not.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you have listened to this radio station

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Speaker 2: all day, it's it's been like forty eight minutes since

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Speaker 2: you heard Chad Brendle and I I don't want to

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Speaker 2: deprive you anymore. Bearcat journal dot com hosting since he

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Speaker 2: three sixty tomorrow at noon and joining us now for

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Speaker 2: his weekly segment on the Bearcats.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Chad, I'm a long kind of sea lightey.

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Speaker 1: In a while. How you been, Dan, I'm.

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Speaker 7: Hanging in there, hanging in there, just driving home from work.

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Speaker 2: You know, good, good, Well, it's nice. It's nice to

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Speaker 2: have you. The Bearcat football team is four and one.

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Speaker 2: They host UCF as big favorites on Saturday. They're coming

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Speaker 2: off back to back conference wins. This team is playing well.

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Speaker 2: What has been the most surprising thing about their performance

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Speaker 2: so far.

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Speaker 8: How well the offensive line has played in both phases

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Speaker 8: of the game. I expected this to be a pretty

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Speaker 8: good offensive line. But you lost your left tackle to

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Speaker 8: the NFL. You lost both starting guards to NFL training camps.

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Speaker 3: Like for a school like Cincinnati that.

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Speaker 8: Generally spells disaster for a year or two until they replenish.

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Speaker 8: You know that group of offensive linemen, and man, I

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Speaker 8: mean you got to go back a while for me

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Speaker 8: to remember feeling this good about an offensive line in

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Speaker 8: both pass blocking and run blocking. And it just feels

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Speaker 8: like they're setting the tone. I mean, look, there were

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Speaker 8: some holes that they opened up against Iowa State that

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Speaker 8: I think Austin Elmore could.

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Speaker 12: Have ran through for touchdown.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and they've given up one sack all year.

656
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Speaker 8: Like they are killing it in the running game, and

657
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Speaker 8: Brendan Soorsby more often than not has headed a ton

658
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Speaker 8: of time to stand back there and pick up our defenses.

659
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Speaker 8: Everybody looks at how explosive the offense has been. I

660
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Speaker 8: think the biggest reason is that offensive line has been

661
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Speaker 8: really good at both run.

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Speaker 12: And as quack.

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Speaker 2: So they're four and one, and I don't even love

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Speaker 2: to make the comparisons to last year when they were

665
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Speaker 2: five and two and totally fell apart. But if there's

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Speaker 2: if there's one or two things that should worry Bearcat

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Speaker 2: fans at this stage in the season, what are.

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Speaker 8: They You're in the Big twelve, So I mean outside

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Speaker 8: of Oklahoma State. Like i UCF, the Middle Florida Institute

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Speaker 8: of Hospitality is talented. They just they're not a complete team,

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Speaker 8: but they do enough things well that if you're not

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Speaker 8: on top of your game, just like Kansas last Saturday, Hey,

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Speaker 8: Kansas is probably a good deal better than the Middle

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Speaker 8: Florida Institute of Hospitality. And it was still a twenty

675
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Speaker 8: seven to twenty game with Central Florida at the goal line.

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Speaker 8: You can't really tied a Middle Florida Institute of Hospitality.

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Speaker 8: It takes a lot. I'm gonna have to workshop that

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Speaker 8: m F I.

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Speaker 12: Florida.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Central Florida was at the one yard line four

681
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Speaker 8: times and couldn't score to tie that game. So if

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Speaker 8: Cincinnati doesn't play well, this can be a close game

683
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Speaker 8: into the fourth quarter. And if it's a close game

684
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Speaker 8: into the fourth quarter, you're opening yourself up to things happening.

685
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Speaker 8: So they need to go out, I think and take

686
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Speaker 8: control of this game. Because the one thing about Central

687
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Speaker 8: Florida it's not a passing team. So if you get

688
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Speaker 8: up to you know, fourteen to seventeen points on them,

689
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Speaker 8: they're in trouble because they're not gonna be able to

690
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Speaker 8: just drop back and throw the ball around. If you

691
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Speaker 8: let this game to hang within ten points, it concerns

692
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Speaker 8: me because they get after the passer. They've got a

693
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Speaker 8: good defensive line, and Miles Montgomery is a really good

694
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Speaker 8: running back, and that can cause problems if you don't

695
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 8: if you're sleepwalking, if you're thinking, we beat Kansas at Kansas,

696
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Speaker 8: we beat Iowa State, like we're good, we got this.

697
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Speaker 3: How many times have we seen that comeback and fight

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Speaker 3: somebody in.

699
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Speaker 7: The rear end?

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Speaker 1: Is the Big twelve wide open enough?

701
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Speaker 2: And is this team good enough for them to be

702
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: a legitimate factor in the conference race?

703
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Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, I think.

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Speaker 8: Well there is one problem I think this year, and

705
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Speaker 8: that is I think Texas Tech is substantially superior to

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Speaker 8: everyone else in the league. So that means there's really

707
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Speaker 8: only one spot that everybody's fighting for. And I think Cincinnati,

708
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Speaker 8: Arizona State, Iowa State, BYU Utah, like, There's maybe even Baylor,

709
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Speaker 8: maybe even TCU, Like there is a large number of

710
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Speaker 8: teams that there's gonna be some separation that happens as

711
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Speaker 8: we go through, but still you're probably talking about three, four,

712
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Speaker 8: five teams that are going to be in contention for

713
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Speaker 8: that spot against Texas Tech right down to the wire.

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Speaker 8: But I do think with the way the schedule sets up,

715
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Speaker 8: you've got these two years. If you can take care

716
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Speaker 8: of these two you get the four to zero in

717
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Speaker 8: the league. The back half is tough, but I don't

718
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Speaker 8: see any of those games that I don't think are

719
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Speaker 8: are winnable, or at least you know you can go

720
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Speaker 8: three and two. If you go three and two, then

721
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Speaker 8: you're seven and two in the conference and you're in

722
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Speaker 8: the conversation to be in Dallas.

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Speaker 2: I listen to your conversation, excuse me, your conversation with

724
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Speaker 2: Wes Miller. Today, I heard a coach who sounds confident

725
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Speaker 2: but sort of not even sort of kind of understands

726
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: the mandate this year.

727
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Speaker 8: I think he definitely does, like you got to win

728
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 8: last year. The thing is, I think people get so caught.

729
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 3: Up in the moment.

730
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Speaker 8: There had been significant progress from year one to year

731
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Speaker 8: two to year three, and I think everybody expected that

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Speaker 8: to continue, me included, you, included, and it didn't.

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Speaker 3: And it was a disappointment. It was a significant disappointment.

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Speaker 8: But it's not like this thing has been backsliding for

735
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Speaker 8: a while. It is correctable, but it has to be

736
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Speaker 8: corrected this year, and I think a lot of that

737
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 8: comes down to the philosophy of roster building, because I

738
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Speaker 8: think West kind of was in an old school mentality

739
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Speaker 8: of just go get the most talent and figure it out, right,

740
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Speaker 8: there's any good players.

741
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Speaker 3: As you can, and it'll work itself out.

742
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Speaker 8: Eventually, it didn't, and I think this roster is much

743
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 8: more fundamentally constructed to be good than the one last

744
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 8: year was so well, we'll see how that plays out,

745
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 8: but but I like them makeup of this team a

746
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Speaker 8: lot better.

747
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Speaker 12: The other thing, though, that I've.

748
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 3: Been able to see a lot tougher, like this should

749
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 3: be a team that plays really hard. And there's nothing

750
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 3: that drove all of us more insane last year than

751
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 3: watching a team that didn't play hard.

752
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Speaker 8: It's not that we didn't think they played hard, didn't

753
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 8: play hard hard.

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Speaker 12: They didn't play hard.

755
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 8: Time and time again, we're looking at each other going.

756
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Speaker 3: This isn't Cincinnati basketball. I don't want to watch this.

757
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: In thirty five years.

758
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: Last year was the first time that I have repeatedly

759
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: questioned effort, and if I'm doing that this year, then

760
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw more than pens on the floor.

761
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 12: Are you Are you gonna throw Terry throw Terry might.

762
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Speaker 2: Pick Terry up and heave them onto the floor. Yeah,

763
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: we'll see. We'll see how that works out for me.

764
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Speaker 2: All right, man, thank you as always be listening tomorrow.

765
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Speaker 12: All right, thanks, well, I appreciate that's our guy.

766
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Speaker 2: Chad Brendall Bearkad Journold. Come you see basketball plays an

767
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Speaker 2: exhibition game weeks two weeks from tomorrow against Michigan on

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Speaker 2: the road in ann Arbor.

769
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Speaker 1: That is no, it's not true. It's next week.

770
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Speaker 2: I should know it's ann Arbor first next week and

771
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Speaker 2: then Arkansas in the twenty fourth. These are the things

772
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: I should commit to memory before I open my big MoU.

773
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Speaker 2: I'm almost certain that's the case next week. See now,

774
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Speaker 2: what I'm gonna have to do is like go on

775
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Speaker 2: the internet and make sure I have that career. We've

776
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Speaker 2: had a lot going on here. They play exhibition games

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Speaker 2: against Michigan and against Arkansas. The Arkansas games on twenty fourth.

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Speaker 2: Michigan game is yeah, next Friday, Good job, mo. Couple

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Speaker 2: the way from four o'clock, which Red's picture? Will they

780
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Speaker 2: trade next?

781
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Speaker 8: And she has to win one thousand dollars enter this

782
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Speaker 8: nationwide keyword on our website.

783
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Speaker 1: Win that's win.

784
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Speaker 7: Enter it now.

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

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Speaker 2: Five minute after four o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.

787
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Speaker 2: My name's Moeger. Appreciate you listening. In fifteen minutes, Our

788
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Speaker 2: guy Robert Wintrob I'm want to start the hour very quickly.

789
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: I want to give you a quick reminder. It's been

790
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Speaker 2: I think it's been an hour since we reminded anybody.

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Speaker 4: No one covers the Bengals like ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's

792
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Speaker 4: sports station.

793
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: I think we have an obligation to remind you of

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Speaker 2: that once an hour, play that at least one time

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Speaker 2: per hour. So so just FYI and if I taran,

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Speaker 2: if we don't play that every hour, you're gonna get

797
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Speaker 2: a demerit. And I don't want that to happen. We've

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Speaker 2: had enough, We have enough problems right now. I can't

799
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Speaker 2: have you getting in trouble if you play the wrong promo.

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Speaker 2: That's that's not what we need. So in fact, you know,

801
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Speaker 2: maybe just to cover our own bases, just one more time,

802
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Speaker 2: no one.

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Speaker 4: Covers the Bengals like ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station.

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00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: One hundred years from now, one hundred years now, that

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Speaker 2: promo will still be played on this radio station. Let's

806
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Speaker 2: see Robert Wintrop, Dan Klaskins, plus you're gonna hear Jamar

807
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: Chase Jamar Chase. Now the team spokesperson, Joe Flacco, I guess,

808
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: is quite busy learning the Bengals playbook, which, let's be honest,

809
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 2: doesn't feels like it doesn't feel like it should take

810
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: all that long. But he's too busy learning the playbook

811
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Speaker 2: that he can't talk until Friday. So you'll hear Joe

812
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Speaker 2: Flacco tomorrow. Ain't gonna hear him on this show because

813
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: it ain't gonna be on Bengals pep rally will be

814
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: on in our place, and I might be making myself

815
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Speaker 2: scarce on the old social media.

816
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Speaker 1: So we'll see. We'll see.

817
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: But Joe Flacco is going to talk tomorrow, but Jamar

818
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: Chase is going to satisfy our need for Bengals audio,

819
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: and Taran is in the middle of cutting it up

820
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Speaker 2: to give you the best of Joe of Joe of

821
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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase at four thirty five.

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Speaker 1: Between now and then.

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Speaker 2: We're happy to take phone calls because it's a it's

824
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Speaker 2: a call in show. Ostensibly, let's see here, John Michael,

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Speaker 2: You're on ESPN fifteen thirty, John mikel Well, how are you.

826
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 9: Hey, man?

827
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Speaker 13: How are you doing?

828
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: I'm doing well? How about yourself?

829
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Speaker 14: I'm not gonna lie, ma'am a little bit upset about

830
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 14: what transpired and everything yesterday too. You didn't know that

831
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 14: Carlos Dunlap worked for iHeart Radio and he's trying to

832
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 14: get another sack on Tony Man.

833
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: I wasn't aware that that was who made that decision.

834
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Speaker 2: I'm a little bit out of the loop.

835
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Speaker 14: Well, it just makes me really upset, man, that Carlo's

836
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 14: Dunlap Man. He took all that money from the Bengals

837
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 14: and he just took mylife away. So I can't call

838
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,959
Speaker 14: on that program anymore. Between twelve and three?

839
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: Why not you know that the show is still on?

840
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: You know, Austin's gonna host it.

841
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Speaker 2: Austin's off the rest of this week because he was

842
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: going to Green Bay for the Bengals game and so

843
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: this was planned. But I would hope that if you

844
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: have been a regular caller or a contributor to since three,

845
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 2: that that will continue because I think Austin deserves that.

846
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: I think he has earned that, and I think he

847
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 2: will make it worth your while.

848
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Speaker 7: All Right, you changed my mind.

849
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Speaker 14: I want to call in again and stuff like that.

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Speaker 14: Well you're the man man. I got two things to say.

851
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 14: One thing about the Bengals playing in Green Bay. I

852
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 14: went a few years ago when any Adulton was quarterback

853
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 14: and they should have won. Weird, but it was like

854
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 14: the hottest game ever in Green Bay history for a

855
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Speaker 14: football game. And that guy that was talking about like

856
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 14: it's like a college tailgate atmosphere, like we was walking

857
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Speaker 14: to get to like to where we was going and

858
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 14: people are like hanging out beers and we was like

859
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 14: doing all that kind of stuff, and it was a

860
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 14: really really nice atmosphere. There was like no commotion like oh,

861
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 14: you're a Bengals fan. No, you're a football fan. This

862
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 14: is our house and you're welcome.

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Speaker 2: I always feel like, like go ahead, I'm sorry, John Michael.

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Speaker 15: No. It was like no.

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Speaker 14: Difference, like if you knock them up door to deliver

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Speaker 14: a package of like hey, would you like a sandwich?

867
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Speaker 14: I can I've got Do you want a glass milk

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Speaker 14: or anything like that? And that's how I failt about

869
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Speaker 14: all that stuff.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 2: I was at that same game. It was eight years ago.

872
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: You're right, it was the hottest game in lambeau Field history.

873
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: It was one of my bucket list places to go.

874
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: I've never wanted to go like in December. It's just

875
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: not my thing. So you know, the game was in September.

876
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: It's like, you know what, this is my shot, and

877
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: so we went. And I've always felt like places like

878
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: that that are sort of, you know, bucket list venues.

879
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 2: They're used to fans coming in from out of town.

880
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: They expect it right, Like I've always felt like the

881
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 2: bleachers at Wrigley Field are the same way. Like I've

882
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: been to the bleachers at Wrigley Field like fifty times,

883
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: usually to see the Reds, And I feel like environments

884
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: like that where they understand that's a tourist destination. That's

885
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: a place where people make, you know, pilgrimages too, that's

886
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: a place that people use to cross items off their

887
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 2: bucket list. And so they're used to fans from out

888
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: of town and they're not bothered by it, as opposed

889
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 2: to other venues where sometimes you'll find people who seemingly

890
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: just can't get over the fact that somebody might be

891
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: rooting for a different football team.

892
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 14: I agree, Man it's like it I went to a

893
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 14: Steelers Bengals game down at that pay More Stadium and

894
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 14: it's like, oh, I'm better than you because the team

895
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 14: I root for is is better than your team that

896
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 14: you root for in football. And it's like, you're not

897
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 14: better than me as a person, like you really you

898
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 14: try to be egregious right now, and I don't like it.

899
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 14: Like I'm here with my mom, like, and you just

900
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 14: jumped the beer on her and I can't fist a

901
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 14: cuff like that, and it's just it kind of makes

902
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 14: me upset. But I want to talk about the Reds,

903
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 14: like starting rotation, starting rotation.

904
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm gonna break it down.

905
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 14: Okay, yeah, not that I'm a big baseball fan, but

906
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 14: I love baseball. I love it with all my heart,

907
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 14: my passion, all my beings. You got an opportunity here

908
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 14: in the next year and then the year after to

909
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 14: have four out of five guys and you're starting rotation

910
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 14: drafted fifteen and lower, you know, fifteen to one in

911
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 14: your starting rotation.

912
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 10: You got that.

913
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 7: And Rabbit he's got a.

914
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 14: Sub three ERA All Star this year. He got drafted

915
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 14: in the second round, early second round. I can't imagine

916
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 14: another baseball team that has four first round draft picks,

917
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 14: early second round draft pick that Hey, here's the ball now,

918
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 14: the problem is it's the bullpen. I get that, everything

919
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 14: like that, But if it were me as far as

920
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 14: the starting rotation, I'm fine.

921
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 7: As far as everybody.

922
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 14: In the field, hey allie got the center field and

923
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 14: pick up that first base bat when they're I paid

924
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 14: the money for I don't know. It's not my money obviously.

925
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 14: I mean I collect sporting cards and everything like that

926
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 14: in candles. But you know, Peter Lonzo's out there, that

927
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 14: guy hits you about thirty five bombs.

928
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 7: The year contract.

929
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

930
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 14: Do you think I'm Do you think I'm a sub

931
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 14: part like I took classes in the basement like my school.

932
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 7: Think at all?

933
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 1: No, No, not at all, not at all.

934
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: I think Number one, the Reds are operating from a

935
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 2: place of strength and envy where they have a collection

936
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: of young and before their prime or in their prime

937
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: starting pitchers who you know start with Hunter Green is

938
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 2: is caused controllable and none of those guys are going

939
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 2: anywhere anytime soon. You control them for a while. Andrew

940
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: Abbott still has another pre arbitration year, and so you

941
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: have a starting staff that has a ton of upside

942
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: and is still collectively really really cheap, and you have

943
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 2: you've got options, like you know what's Ret Louder gonna

944
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: be is Brandon Williamson. A part of the mix is

945
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: Chase Burns absolutely earmarked to be a starting pitcher? Could

946
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: they trade one of those guys? What do we do

947
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: about Chase Petty down the road? Like, there's that they're

948
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: operating from a place of strength, So start with that.

949
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: You should have optimism based on that, and then it's

950
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: what's the best way to acquire a slugger. Let's be honest,

951
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: chances are they're not gonna They're not gonna dip their

952
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: toe into the Kyle Schwarber or Pete Alonzo sweepstakes. And

953
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: by the way, there wasn't much of a market for

954
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 2: Pete Alonzo last year, which is why he went back

955
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: to the Mets. Does that? Does that? Does that repeat

956
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: itself this offseason? If the plan is to not acquire

957
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: a slugger in free agency, how much would you have

958
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: to get up to get somebody who is a genuine

959
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 2: thirty home run threat? So you to me, like the

960
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: entire offseason starts with, what is the plan for acquiring

961
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: a power hitter? Is it we can find a free

962
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: agent that is not gonna be at the top of

963
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: the market. Is it we are gonna trade from our

964
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: surplus of starting pitching, and then how much do you

965
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: compromise your depth? And then you go from there. I

966
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: don't think you can go in the next season feeling

967
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: like Emilio Pagan is going to be the closer. That

968
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: doesn't seem likely. So you're probably gonna have to go

969
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: get a back of the bullpen guy. Probably gonna have

970
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: to go get a few bullpen arms somewhere. What's that

971
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: gonna cost? How you're gonna go get them? And then

972
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 2: you have to make some some decisions about some guys

973
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: on your team right now. Uh, where is Ellie Dela

974
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: Cruz gonna play for the rest of the decade?

975
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't think.

976
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: I think it is a massive failure if we're sitting

977
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: here a year from now still entertaining the possibility of

978
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 2: him moving moving positions, which means he's either gonna You're

979
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: gonna pass or fail with him a shortstop and he

980
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: has to clearly get better, or you make a decision

981
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: about him playing elsewhere. But if he plays elsewhere, who

982
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 2: is your opening day shortstop? What do you do with

983
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 2: Matt McClain. Last year he was earmarked as the team's

984
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: number two hitter. The Red's number two production was like

985
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 2: the worst in the sport. That can't be the case

986
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: this year has Christian and Karnassi on strand exhausted all

987
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: of his chances. Are they really gonna go with a

988
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: guy who can't hit at third base and key Brian Hayes.

989
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 2: Can sal Stewart make a significant leap in his first

990
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: full season? Who are your outfielders gonna be? Can you

991
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: really go into next year with a revolving door of

992
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 2: fourth and fifth outfielders that you know, spend time in

993
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: Louisville and then come up and then you sign a

994
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: guy like a Connor Joe Like. They have a lot

995
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: of decisions to make, but first and foremost for me

996
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: is who's the big bat, how you gonna get him?

997
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: And what position do they play?

998
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 14: I agree you on harp sent, I mean keep Ron Hayes,

999
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 14: I mean go glove, go glove, like you kind of

1000
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 14: need that. But he's swinging the bat.

1001
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of the worst offensive players in the sport.

1002
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: He is marvelous with the glove, like there's no getting

1003
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 2: around that. But how good with the glove does he

1004
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: have to be? Or I guess the bigger question would

1005
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: be how what is the bare minimum that you'll put

1006
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: up with offensively that you go, you know what, he's

1007
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 2: on the team and he's in the starting lineup because

1008
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: he's great.

1009
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: With the glove, Like I don't know the game.

1010
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 2: I don't know that at a corner position you can

1011
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 2: legitimately put a guy out there for one hundred and

1012
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 2: forty five games who is an offensive zero. I just

1013
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 2: and so the offense is if the answer is, well,

1014
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: that's what we're gonna do, then where's the offense gonna

1015
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: come from? Like they were done into a degree this

1016
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 2: year offensively by the fact that Christian and karnassion Strand

1017
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 2: just didn't work out, because I think everybody was hopeful

1018
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 2: he could hit him twenty five to thirty home runs

1019
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 2: and be an offensive force, and he was so bad

1020
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: they didn't even call him up in September. He was

1021
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: that much of an afterthought. And so if the offense

1022
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: isn't gonna come from third base, okay, to me, it's

1023
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: then got to come from your corner, outfield positions not

1024
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: as constructed, or it's gonna come from first base. I

1025
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: guess maybe Sal Stewart. You go, Okay, that guy can

1026
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: hit thirty, but are you counting on that? Like, I

1027
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: want a guy that I know can hit them twenty

1028
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: eight to thirty two home runs, somebody who provides a

1029
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 2: level of protection for Ellie Della Cruz. And they also

1030
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 2: need a guy batting second who can get on base,

1031
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 2: because I think that was a huge problem this year too,

1032
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: John Michael, I appreciate.

1033
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: The call man, thanks so much. I love you now

1034
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 1: I love you as well.

1035
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: I find it hard to believe they're not gonna trade

1036
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: a pitcher, and so if you operate under the premise

1037
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 2: that they're not gonna go shopping for you know, Kyle

1038
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: Schwarber last night in the first hitting hit a ball

1039
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: to like San Diego. Let's be honest, as cool as

1040
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 2: it sounds and as much as it shouldn't be a

1041
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: non starter, you're gonna lose money if you bet on

1042
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: the Reds acquiring Kyle Schwarber. Okay, you're probably gonna lose

1043
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: money if you're betting on the Reds acquiring Pete a lonzo.

1044
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: By the way, they should have sign him last off seas.

1045
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: So how are you getting that slugger? Chances are they're

1046
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: gonna deal from a place of surplus. Which pitchers are

1047
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: you willing to give up? And how much are you

1048
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 2: willing to compromise your biggest asset, which is your starting

1049
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 2: pitching depth, for the sake of getting a slugger or

1050
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: do they legitimately look at sal Stewart? Do I think

1051
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: we're all high on and go, you know, we think

1052
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 2: this guy can be exactly what we're looking for, and

1053
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 2: so he's going to be our big bat. We're gonna

1054
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 2: pla him at first base and then you know, figure

1055
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: out where you go from there. With Spencer's here, I

1056
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: think the key Brian Hayes discussion is fascinating because he's

1057
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: not unlike Billy Hamilton. Right, Billy Hamilton was an amazing

1058
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 2: center fielder and there was value in that, but he

1059
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: was a nothing offensively, a nothing. Now he could run fast,

1060
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 2: but that skill doesn't matter as much if he can't

1061
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: get on base. How much can you put up with

1062
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 2: an offensive zero just because he's terrific with the glove.

1063
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 2: And let's be honest as cool as it is to

1064
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 2: have a guy who's great with the glove at third base,

1065
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: it is I'm not considered. I think a premium defensive position.

1066
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: I think that, and I think the Reds told us

1067
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: when they traded for him, like, we're cool with key

1068
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 2: Brian Hayes being the starting third baseman, but in the

1069
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 2: games that mattered the most, when he came to the plate,

1070
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: you knew he had no chance of succeeding. And so

1071
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: you're starting a guy next year at third base that

1072
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 2: in close games you're thinking, like in the middle innings,

1073
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: I might have to lift for a pinch hitter. I

1074
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: don't know, man, this is there's some really tough decisions

1075
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: to make. Easy decision for us. Robert Wintraub on the show,

1076
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Speaker 2: After a week off, our friend Robert Wintraub is here.

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Speaker 2: He writes a weekly Bengals column for Cincinnati Magazine. You

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Speaker 2: can read it at Cincinnati Magazine dot com. This week's column,

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Speaker 2: as you might imagine, about the dawn the Joe Flacco era.

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Speaker 2: When I say that, do you still chuckle the way

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Speaker 2: I do? Forty eight seventy two hours later, if we

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Speaker 2: found out he's a solution at quarterback.

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Speaker 18: Oh my god. It's it's everything changes overnight with the

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00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 18: dawn of the Joe Flacco era. It's really amazing that

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Speaker 18: a guy that has Bengal fans we've been conditioned to

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Speaker 18: loath basically decades now the savior you know from it

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00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 18: out of nowhere trade. It really is amazing and that

1110
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 18: just goes to show you what the season has been

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Speaker 18: like it It turns out a dime and another plot twist.

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Speaker 18: So that's good for us in the content creation.

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Speaker 2: You know, I said all the time, be good or

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Speaker 2: be interesting, ideally be both got to be one. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure how good this is going to be. It's

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Speaker 2: it's going to be interesting. There is there's a track

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Speaker 2: record with Joe Flacco, you know, joining a team, being

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Speaker 2: a quick study and in a reasonably short amount of

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Speaker 2: time operating the offense. We've seen this happen in other,

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Speaker 2: you know, situations, very short. A couple of years ago,

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield goes to la on a Tuesday, plays on

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Speaker 2: a Thursday and wins. Josh Dobbs with Minnesota a few

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00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: years ago, gets traded on Tuesday, plays on Sunday and wins.

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Speaker 2: When this typically happens, how dumb down is the offense.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I remember when Bobby Lane got traded for the

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Speaker 18: Season's almost the same thing, remember, kids, Yeah, you know

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Speaker 18: it depends on the quarterback.

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Speaker 7: Really, right, it's the case.

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Speaker 18: My case basis, I think in the case is that

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Speaker 18: you said it, especially with Josh Dobbs.

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Speaker 15: I mean that was.

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Speaker 18: Basically they were drawing up the plays in the dirt with.

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Speaker 7: Six, right.

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Speaker 18: I think the value of Flacco, He's had two hundred starts,

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Speaker 18: he has seen essentially everything there is to see. They're

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Speaker 18: not gonna run a highly you know, detailed and complicated

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Speaker 18: offense necessarily with him there. But then again, the Bengals

1138
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Speaker 18: don't necessarily really do that anyway. There's sort of plan

1139
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 18: of attack has always been under Zach Taylor to you know,

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Speaker 18: kind of out match up teams rather than outscheme them.

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Speaker 7: Then it's a broad stroke, but.

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Speaker 18: You know, our guys are better on the outside and

1143
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 18: we're gonna win that way. And you know, Joe Flacco's

1144
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 18: inexperience in the offense doesn't really make too much of

1145
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 18: an effort in that context, And I think that's why

1146
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 18: he's valuable to them. Picked up a different quarterback off

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00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 18: the scrap heap who happened to be available at this

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Speaker 18: point in the season.

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Speaker 7: We'd be talking it a little bit about it a

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Speaker 7: little bit differently.

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Speaker 18: So I think that is where they thought Flacco was

1152
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 18: really the best case for them. Obviously, it's not much

1153
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 18: of a not much of a deep pool of guys

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Speaker 18: who can come in and play that way. But yeah,

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Speaker 18: I don't think like when Carson Palmer went to the Raiders,

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Speaker 18: you know, off the retirement demand, I don't think they

1157
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 18: really gummed it all the way down because they knew

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Speaker 18: Carson what he could do and what his strengths weren't

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Speaker 18: they played to it. It didn't necessarily work out and

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Speaker 18: wins and losses there, but probably won't hear either. But

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Speaker 18: I don't think they'll be, you know, just chucking ninety

1162
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Speaker 18: five percent playbook out and hoping for the best. I

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Speaker 18: think that's why you have it, Joe Flacco come in.

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Speaker 2: Of all of the possibilities, some far fetched, some may

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Speaker 2: be a little bit more serious, was Joe flacko I

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Speaker 2: think was the most surprising, But was he the best?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: So, I mean of the realistic ones. You know that

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Speaker 18: you heard about a lot of ones that were so

1170
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 18: far just Twitter Twitter ridiculousness, and Twitter's that in real life.

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Speaker 18: By the way, follow me on Twitter at Roland a

1172
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Speaker 18: little self promotion there. And amongst the Blaco talk, I mean,

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Speaker 18: certainly in a case where you match him up against

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Speaker 18: the guy like Russell Wilson and the fact that, as

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Speaker 18: everybody has pointed out, you know, the Bengals offensive line

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Speaker 18: is deleterious to most quarterbacks health and you just put

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Speaker 18: them side by side. You got Russell Wilson, who's a

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Speaker 18: mini me, and he got Joe Flacco at six six,

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Speaker 18: two forty five, who's a guy has taken a lot

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Speaker 18: of beatings over the years, but he hasn't been injured

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Speaker 18: all that often. He just has that body type that

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Speaker 18: can absorb a lot of punishment. Probably a good thing

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Speaker 18: because he's probably gonna get somehow in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 7: And I think I.

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Speaker 18: Don't know how much the Bengals really put that into

1186
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 18: their you know, sort of thought process, but it works

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Speaker 18: out pretty well where sort of the biggest guy available

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00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 18: and the and the you know, just kind of most

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Speaker 18: physically imposing guy is the guy who also matches up

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Speaker 18: with what they want to do best. So in that sense,

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Speaker 18: I think he was by far the best, you know,

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Speaker 18: and obviously he had this you know, tradition or you know,

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Speaker 18: ability to come out of nowhere, literally off the couch

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Speaker 18: in the case of the Browns, and not only be competent,

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Speaker 18: but be very good. If the Browns, the Bengals can

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Speaker 18: run the ball the way the Browns did in twenty

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Speaker 18: twenty three, even without Nick Chubb that year, they had

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Speaker 18: a really good ground attack. If the Bengals can have

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Speaker 18: any semblance of that, that can only make Flacco's life

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Speaker 18: a little bit easier. But obviously we haven't seen that

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Speaker 18: thus far, and there's no reason to expect it, certainly

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Speaker 18: in the next couple of weeks or Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Well, and you referenced the offensive line and the lack

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Speaker 2: of mobility, and I think for a lot of folks

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Speaker 2: that means that this is a ticking time bomb.

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Speaker 1: Is that fair?

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Speaker 18: That's a little strong, Like I reference as a guy

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Speaker 18: who's not really a guy who has been injured like that.

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Speaker 18: I mean, if that's what you mean, he's going to be,

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Speaker 18: you know, immediately sacked crumble into fifty pieces.

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Speaker 7: And we have to see Jake Brownie again. I don't

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Speaker 7: necessarily think that's the case.

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Speaker 18: I would imagine that the offensive line will continue to

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Speaker 18: hinder the offense's ability to move the ball with consistency

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Speaker 18: and efficiency, no.

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Speaker 7: Question about that.

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Speaker 18: I don't know if that's a slow ticking time bomb

1218
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Speaker 18: or a fuse that's you know, one hundred feet long.

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Speaker 18: We've seen it all season, and we've seen that a

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Speaker 18: lot over the past few seasons, so it's it's nothing new, really.

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Speaker 18: I just don't think that it's like a combination of

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Speaker 18: his lack of mobility with the Bengals porousness up front,

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Speaker 18: this automatically going to get him injured. I think Flacosto

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Speaker 18: smart for that. I mean, I just think part of

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Speaker 18: his ability to still play at this age is his

1226
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Speaker 18: ability to you know, know, one to fold them, so

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Speaker 18: to speak, chuck the ball out of there quickly, you know,

1228
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Speaker 18: check out of plays that are immediately going to get

1229
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Speaker 18: him killed if he sees it, and you know, get

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Speaker 18: into a safer play physically, so to speak, and just

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Speaker 18: you know, play in a certain way that'll insure him

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Speaker 18: of another drive, another quarter or another game, as opposed

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Speaker 18: to what we've seen that of a lot of other quarterbacks,

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Speaker 18: even Jake Browning. I mean, he didn't get injured, but

1235
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Speaker 18: he was just playing with his hair on fire so

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Speaker 18: much you never you knew what the next play is

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Speaker 18: going to bring. You won't do that with flackol He

1238
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Speaker 18: you know, you know what you're gonna get. But it's

1239
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Speaker 18: not gonna be something where he just like, what is

1240
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Speaker 18: this guy doing at here? He'll be professional, and he'll

1241
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Speaker 18: be experienced, and he'll get him out of bad situations

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Speaker 18: as best as possible.

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Speaker 2: Robert win Trump is with his weekly Bengals column is

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Speaker 2: up now at Cincinnati Magazine dot com. You referenced in

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Speaker 2: this week's piece to me, among all the stuff that

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Speaker 2: happened last week, it's the one that was most frustrating

1247
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Speaker 2: to me because it answered a question I had all

1248
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Speaker 2: off season and all off season. You know, you heard, well,

1249
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Speaker 2: the Bengals just need a league average defense, which sounds

1250
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: neat right, But regardless of who the quarterback is, can

1251
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Speaker 2: your unit get a stop when the game is hanging

1252
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: in the balance, and so they they crawl back into

1253
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Speaker 2: it at least sort of ten and a half to

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Speaker 2: go fourth quarter. If they get a stop, there's hope

1255
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Speaker 2: and the Lion shut the door in eight plays and

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Speaker 2: there were a bunch of mistackles there. And so I

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Speaker 2: guess there's two different things. Number one, how much has

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Speaker 2: the defense failed essentially uh in year one of Al Golden?

1259
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Speaker 2: And I guess more specifically, they missed a ton of tackles.

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Speaker 2: Still that was a hallmark of last year's team. It

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Speaker 2: remains one this year.

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Speaker 1: Why is it?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: I guess if I had the definitive answer to that,

1265
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Speaker 18: I'd be on the sidelines with them. You see it,

1266
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Speaker 18: and it's really frustrating, especially the drive that you that

1267
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Speaker 18: you refer to, where it was just like, yeah, I

1268
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Speaker 18: mean down eleven with most of the quarter to go,

1269
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Speaker 18: It's hardly insurmountable, you know, especially in modern NFL. And

1270
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Speaker 18: it's one thing to give up some points in that situation,

1271
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Speaker 18: but to have it just break down so completely, and

1272
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Speaker 18: so it looked like the Lions were barely trying and

1273
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Speaker 18: they just waltzed right down the field and scored.

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Speaker 7: Really disheartening.

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Speaker 18: And it had to be crushing Al Golden because even

1276
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Speaker 18: with the way the units played so far this season,

1277
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Speaker 18: you know, he had an opportunity to kind of make

1278
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Speaker 18: it go away with a couple of stands there and

1279
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Speaker 18: it just didn't happen. Yeah, the Bengals are tied for

1280
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Speaker 18: last in the league or first in the league, I guess,

1281
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Speaker 18: depending on how you want to look at it. In

1282
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Speaker 18: miss tackles and they're tied with the Jets, And I

1283
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 18: think you see a lot of the time times it's

1284
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 18: a question of want to and when the defense knows

1285
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 18: the offense is atrocious and they're not gonna you know

1286
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Speaker 18: that that last drive notwithstanding, they're not.

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Speaker 7: Going to have a chance to win games.

1288
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Speaker 18: You know, the effort in the want to to rally

1289
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Speaker 18: to the ball and really play with the kind of

1290
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 18: speed and violence that you need to play with in

1291
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Speaker 18: the NFL is is lacking. And you know you have

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Speaker 18: losing teams missing a lot of tackles. That's not a coincidence.

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Speaker 18: And usually teams that don't have great offenses missing a

1294
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Speaker 18: lot of tackles, the Bengals last year again notwithstanding, and

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Speaker 18: you know it's a little early to look at out

1296
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Speaker 18: golden and say, all right, this guy hasn't done anything

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Speaker 18: and it's been five games.

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Speaker 7: I mean, give the guy a chance.

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Speaker 18: You know, their number one draft pick, a guy that

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01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 18: they're really counting on to you know, help the offense

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01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 18: at the defense in a lot of different ways has

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Speaker 18: barely played Schamar Stewart and you know, again, everything went

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Speaker 18: to hell when Burrow went down, and they're all still scrambling.

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Speaker 18: I think if if nothing else, Flacco can give them

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Speaker 18: a little bit of ball control, have at least a

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Speaker 18: little bit of extend drives, you know they had. The

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Speaker 18: Bengals are near the bottom of the league also and

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Speaker 18: just average yards per drive.

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Speaker 7: They hardly move the ball at.

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Speaker 18: All, and it's just it compounds on a defense and

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Speaker 18: you know what looks like a lack of effort and

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Speaker 18: and poor tackling, you know, fundamentals really is a lot

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Speaker 18: of times just being on the field far too much.

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Speaker 18: And you know, they have to get out of that

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Speaker 18: rut otherwise they have no chance.

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Speaker 2: I've got, like you minted here is the biggest glimmer

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Speaker 2: of hope, the fact that the AFC, just top to

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Speaker 2: bottom doesn't appear to be very good.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, well, it helps, right, I guess it sort of

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Speaker 18: depends if you really think that this team has any

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Speaker 18: kind of contention possibility and is it worth being you know,

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Speaker 18: sort of six and eight and still have a chance,

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Speaker 18: and it was last.

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Speaker 7: Year we all felt. But we also felt that with

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Speaker 7: Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 18: All they had to do was get into the playoffs

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Speaker 18: and then they really had to get crack.

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Speaker 7: Did they have that? Is Burrow really going to come back?

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Speaker 18: Are they going to do anything with Joe Flacco even

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Speaker 18: if they somehow sneak into that seventh wildcard position? And

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Speaker 18: you know, because the AFC has said, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 18: it's it's it's you know, it's better than tanking and

1333
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 18: looking already to twenty twenty six. Right, nobody wants to

1334
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 18: do that, even though maybe in the big picture it

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01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 18: probably is the thing to do, right because the Bengals

1336
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:14,959
Speaker 18: have proven they can only really hit in the draft

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Speaker 18: that they're picking them the top five or eight, so

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Speaker 18: maybe they should go down that route. But I think

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Speaker 18: it definitely helps them that and maybe they don't even

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01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 18: make this trade if they don't look around the landscape

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Speaker 18: and see, boy, nobody else here is really any good.

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01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 18: The Ravens are totally demolished, the Browns of the Browns,

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01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 18: the Steelers nobody believes in, and even the rest of

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Speaker 18: the af he doesn't look that good. You'll talk about

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Speaker 18: Daniel Jones being an MVP candidate, So I definitely think

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01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 18: that's part of the overall context. And you know, I

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01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 18: think it does give the Bengals a little bit of hope.

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Speaker 18: But first and foremost, you got to play better before

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Speaker 18: you can take advantage of other teams being crap. You

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01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 18: can't be direct yourself.

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Speaker 1: Well said, We'll talk next week. Thank you as always.

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Speaker 7: Can't wait, Mom, Thanks so much.

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01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: Go read our.

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Speaker 2: Guy Rob Wintrobs Cincinnati Magazine dot com. He joins us

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Speaker 2: every single Thursday right here on ESPN fifteen thirty because.

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Speaker 2: Do we have time if we break now to play

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Speaker 2: the Jamar Chase audio that you've been working on, Tarana,

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Speaker 2: Do we have to wait till next hour?

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Speaker 1: I'll have to wait till next hour? Right, very good.

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Speaker 2: Dan Klaskin's coming up in just about fifteen minutes to

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01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 2: help us win fantasy football games. I'm zero to five

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01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: in one league, so that seems like a tough test

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01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,439
Speaker 2: for him and for me, but we'll try anyway. Coming

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Speaker 2: up on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: to a post malaw. If you're injured called eight four

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Speaker 2: to four Postman. Let's see Jamar Chase back at it today.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday was a Veterans Day for him. You're gonna hear

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Speaker 2: from Jamar in just a second second straight day. Dylan

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Speaker 2: fairschild of Nogo, bj Hill Andogo. After a full participant yesterday,

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01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 2: Charlie Jones limited Lucas Patrick back as a full go

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Speaker 2: today as well. Shamar Stewart limited to four to twenty

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Speaker 2: five Sunday on ESPN fifteen thirty. Pre game coverage begins

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Speaker 2: at twelve o'clock. Meanwhile, you've got Thursday Night Football tonight,

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Speaker 2: Giants and Eagles. You could listen to that on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports thirteen sixty, a pair of game fours in the

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Speaker 2: National League in the respective division series. You've got the

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Speaker 2: Phillies and Dodgers. Philly winning last night, la is still

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01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 2: up two games to one. That game starts a little

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01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 2: bit after six o'clock. Then at Wrigley Field, Cubs and Brewers.

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Speaker 2: After Chicago survived last night to extend that series to

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01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 2: a game four, first pitching that one a little bit

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Speaker 2: after nine o'clock, our guy, Chase Jamar Chase earlier today

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01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco. Typically the Bengals make their starting quarterback available

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01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 2: on Wednesdays. As you might expect, that didn't happen yesterday.

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01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's been a whirlwin for Joe Flacco. He

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01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 2: is going to talk tomorrow. So they made Jamar Chase

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Speaker 2: available today and here he is sharing his initial reaction

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01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 2: to finding out about the Flacco trade.

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01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 12: Actually didn't know.

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01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 19: I didn't see nothing. He called me first, and I

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01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 19: was like, you be asking me for real? But I

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01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 19: didn't really know what was going on. I thought he

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01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 19: was just playing with me. And then, like I would later,

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01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 19: Zach called me and told me what was going on. So,

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01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 19: I mean, it was just a lot going on. But

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01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:16,520
Speaker 19: I you know, enjoying it. You know, I appreciate organizations

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01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 19: trying to make this work. So got to make it work.

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01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 1: Gotta make it work.

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01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase one where we talk a lot about Joe

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01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 2: Flacco learning the offense and being a quick study and

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01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 2: all the work that goes into that and the fact

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01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,520
Speaker 2: that he has done that before. But there is chemistry

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01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 2: and there is timing, and so Jamar talked about the

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01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 2: extra work needed or maybe not needed with his new QB.

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01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 19: I mean, extra work after practice is always the key.

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01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 19: You know, you always want to get bill chemistry with

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01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 19: a new quarterback. But yet we haven't yet did that yet.

1427
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 19: But right now, we just throwing ourselves out there and

1428
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 19: just getting it done at the end of the day.

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01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 19: That's what they expect us to do, and we gotta

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Speaker 19: do it.

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01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: Sorry, Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 2: Earlier today, more on the Roundtable Show at six o'clock

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Speaker 2: with Lance and Rocky on seven hundred WLW from Long Next,

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01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 2: our guy Dan Klaskins on fantasy football.

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Speaker 6: On eastbound two seventy five. Still got that accident after

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Speaker 6: five mile off on the left shoulder. Police there on

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Speaker 6: scene and on the westbound side the left lane blocked

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Speaker 6: off as well. Gal Bread, that's an accident near seventy

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Our guy Jay Morrison at five twenty. Our

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Speaker 2: friend Dan Klaskins is with us every week. Help us

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Speaker 2: with fantasy football. Host of Fantastics Insider Football on series

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01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 2: XM on x AD Dan Klaskins, this is like his

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Speaker 2: fiftieth year doing this show in this spot, and it's

1451
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 2: always awesome to have you. Although in one league, Dan,

1452
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 2: I'm zero to five. I followed every case of advice.

1453
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 2: I am putting up big point totals, and I am

1454
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 2: still losing the people that find a way to outscore me.

1455
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1456
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 20: Well, and getting at a pointment where it's like that, well,

1457
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 20: you have one less line, don't give up.

1458
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 12: You gotta keep that in mind.

1459
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 20: I am cutting some bait on some of my teams

1460
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 20: as well. The injury tile up some disappoints.

1461
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 2: Uh, we'll say, we'll see if we get things turned around.

1462
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 2: Let's roll through some We're we're a few weeks in, right,

1463
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 2: we're getting set for week six. Give me some some

1464
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 2: players who have emerged as early season heroes.

1465
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 12: Wow, I mean Pukaku has the top to listen.

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01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 20: One, I mean wide receiver one, probably number one overall pick.

1467
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 12: Right now, I'm drafted to You're.

1468
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 20: Talking about a dude twenty three plus PPR points and

1469
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 20: every single game of the season, and you know, people

1470
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 20: were cooling off of it, Man draft because we're worried

1471
01:11:58,479 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 20: about Stanford's.

1472
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 12: Being healthy all these things, but uh.

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01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 20: You know, if he got him in a round two especially,

1474
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 20: you're probably in first place.

1475
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 12: Amiko Kabuka, this was a guy back here in August.

1476
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 20: I told you this was my league winning ticket the

1477
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,799
Speaker 20: position going in the sixth round. Man as he's delivering

1478
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,839
Speaker 20: big time now. The odds on favorite to win Offensive

1479
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 20: Rookie of the Year most sports booking got twenty three

1480
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 20: percent target chair, twenty point PPR points per game, a

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01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 20: touchdown eighty nine yards the game.

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01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 12: What more do you want from the rookie? Christian mcchanftery.

1483
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 12: Nobody wanted him. He's always hurt, ironically, the only forty

1484
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:29,799
Speaker 12: nine or healthy.

1485
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 20: And if you throw out all of his rushing stats

1486
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 20: and just focus on what he's done as a receiver,

1487
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 20: his ninety five point seven PPR points would be the

1488
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 20: best receiver.

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01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 12: So that's how good he is. He's RB two.

1490
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 20: He's staying at the MVP where if he's probably the

1491
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 20: guy that nobody doesn't going to be this good Buttervonte

1492
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 20: Bones he finishes RB thirty four in the final month

1493
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,759
Speaker 20: of the nnft ADP, which is the High States Draft.

1494
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 20: He got has been a seventy eight percent running back

1495
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 20: rushing chair at four or five games.

1496
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 12: He's RB three on the season, and Patrick.

1497
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,839
Speaker 20: Mahomes he looked pretty good to twenty four plus fantasy

1498
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 20: points of four or five games.

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01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 12: It's the rushing for doing it for him. He's leading

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01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 12: the team in.

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01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 20: Most games fifty seven rushing yards and three five three

1502
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 20: rushing gunchime.

1503
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 12: Already one shot in his career.

1504
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 2: Math Let's roll through some critical Week six injuries, starting

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01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 2: with tonight's game between Philly and New York.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well, good news.

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01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 20: We'll start there to take one Barkley, he was a

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01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 20: little limit at early in the me.

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01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 12: That looks like he's going to be a fool go.

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Speaker 12: You'll start him with trust. I've been struggling to run

1511
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 12: the ball, that's the problem. But his health will not

1512
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 12: be with that knee issue.

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01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 20: He'll play time other running backs. It's not as good

1514
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Speaker 20: as we talked about every.

1515
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Speaker 12: Week there's a big name. Good well.

1516
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 20: Last week's IR placement is a Marion Hampton ankle injury.

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Speaker 12: He's got four weeks.

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Speaker 20: It's a real murky situation in an LA backfield there

1519
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 20: for the Chargers. Who's going to emerge Tom Haskins come

1520
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 20: on with the doll. I really don't want to.

1521
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 12: Have to start either unless the dend. Bucky Irving looks

1522
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 12: like he's going to miss a second Street week.

1523
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Speaker 20: Last week when I was here, I talked about his

1524
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 20: foot in everybody actually was a shoulder injury kepting out

1525
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 20: of the game.

1526
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Speaker 12: So it looks like he's going to keep you out

1527
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 12: of Gambra. Seawan White flourishing there. Shot m Humper didn't

1528
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 12: practice today with the caff issue, likely not the play

1529
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 12: versus Dallas.

1530
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Speaker 20: That means Carolina will turn to Rico Dowell, who went

1531
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 20: off last week and out a revenge game at Swords

1532
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 20: versus the team who played on as he's very up

1533
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 20: filling the man Fantasy Daylen Morrene expected back from the

1534
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 20: knee issue. He was a late morning scratch in that

1535
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 20: London game before the buye. We thought Kenneth game will

1536
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 20: blow up. Now they're both in the mix, so both

1537
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 20: could be limited to RB three value. Lamar Jackson didn't

1538
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Speaker 20: practice it it's like he's going to miss a second

1539
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 20: straight week.

1540
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Speaker 12: There for the Ravens. I don't think he's coming back from.

1541
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 20: After the by Tyler Murray also signedline today with to

1542
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 20: put issue. He started to look really nicy for Arizona

1543
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 20: as they traveled Indianapolis this week to Kobe Percent would

1544
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 20: start for the Cardinals. In his appen rock Perdy didn't

1545
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 20: practice again with the toe injury. I'm not sure why

1546
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 20: it wasn't played on the card but a Jent sure

1547
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 20: looked good last week.

1548
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Speaker 12: And if you have to use the need a good.

1549
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 20: Spot here versus Tampa uh uh. And then Terry McClure

1550
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 20: another receiver there hamstring issue trending towards missing a third

1551
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 20: straight team. Brock Powers, I don't think he's coming back

1552
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 20: this week, probably not to the week seven by with

1553
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 20: his knee issue, and George Kittle at least one more

1554
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 20: week away with the hamstrings.

1555
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:07,759
Speaker 12: Brothers the position.

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Speaker 2: Everybody Dan in, I mean our guy, Dan Klaskins with

1557
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Speaker 2: us follow on Twitter at Dan Klaskins. Let's roll through

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01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 2: some Week six studs, duds and sleepers.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, let's start with the studs. I talked about those Rams.

1560
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 20: Let's talk about Matthew Stafford. Three of the five quarterbacks

1561
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 20: to face the Ravens this season scored thirty plus Fantasy

1562
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 20: points different sit that market.

1563
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 12: Each of the Rams fan of two games. I think

1564
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:30,719
Speaker 12: he did it again on Sunday.

1565
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 20: Jackson Smith and the Jigbook one of the top wideouts

1566
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 20: all season.

1567
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 12: They're at Jacksonville. I like this game.

1568
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 20: The only two scud of whiteout to Jacksonville's faseball seasons

1569
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 20: of March Chase and Nigo Conda each broke one hundred

1570
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 20: yards and scored a touchdown.

1571
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 12: JSM will do the same on Sunday.

1572
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 20: My duds, Justin Fields and Denver are excuse me going

1573
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 20: against Denver.

1574
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 12: For the Jets.

1575
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 20: That's the London game this week. Only two teams have

1576
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 20: allowed fewer fantasy points to quarterbacks this year, the Broncos,

1577
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 20: and no team has allowed fewer than rushing years.

1578
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,440
Speaker 12: Taf onely given a fifteen rushing.

1579
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 20: Yards in perspective on the year fifteen rushing arts. They

1580
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 20: faced Cam Woard, Daniel Jones, Justin Herbert, Jake Browning, Jalen

1581
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 20: Hurbs that group because the average three yards in game.

1582
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 20: So Justin Fields is rushing as a big part of

1583
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 20: the floor.

1584
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 12: I don't think it's there this week. I don't think

1585
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 12: there's much of.

1586
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 20: Before with Derek Henry, without Lamar Jackson looking ugly for Baltimore,

1587
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 20: we won.

1588
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 12: Henry had twenty nine point two PPR points, who was

1589
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 12: looking like gold in every game since he's combined for

1590
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 12: thirty points. Yeah, it's pretty ugly there. And a couple

1591
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 12: of sleepers. Michael Carter in Indianapolis.

1592
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 20: He played twenty more snaps than the mccartert last week

1593
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 20: and he didn't pumble with the Goldie, So I like

1594
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 20: him this week. Maybe not as much as Murray's up,

1595
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 20: it's still startable. And Chris Alabbit, the guy that frankly

1596
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 20: I was auditioned and telling people stay away from in August.

1597
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 20: He's finished all but one game this year, but ten

1598
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 20: or more targets. He's also scored a touchdown in that game,

1599
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 20: so he's.

1600
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Speaker 12: Proven to be pretty useful. I like him in the

1601
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 12: wide receiver three if he gave.

1602
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Speaker 2: This, would you categorize Joe Flacco as a stud dutters leeper.

1603
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Speaker 12: I don't think there's a word that quite cate of

1604
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Speaker 12: your guys.

1605
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Speaker 20: That perrectly, I will say from Fantasy now right Fantasy, Yeah,

1606
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Speaker 20: I do believe he does raise the poor of the

1607
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Speaker 20: Bengal high end as at like Jamar Chaseteg and Chase

1608
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 20: from the early round pick. I got to think their

1609
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Speaker 20: floor is gonna go up a little bit as president Hope.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it can't get much longer.

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Speaker 20: You set a lineup each week every week, then you

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Speaker 12: But I get it out right now. As many people

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Speaker 2: love that. Dan, You're the best.

1641
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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, all right, I appreciate it.

1642
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Speaker 12: Enjoying the game.

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1647
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1650
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Speaker 2: look ahead to Sunday's tilt Bengals and Packers on Sunday,

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1669
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Speaker 2: Jay Morrison is gonna be with us int minutes Bengals

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Speaker 2: Talk dot Com. Not a very big newsy Day from

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Speaker 2: a Bengals perspective, it is going to be worth paying

1672
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Speaker 2: attention to. In Green Bay, where the Packers have had

1673
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Speaker 2: all sorts of special teams issues. Brandon McManus, their kicker,

1674
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 2: has shown up on the injury report. They had a

1675
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 2: kick blocked against Cleveland, which is the main reason why

1676
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 2: they lost that game. That a pat get blocked against

1677
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Speaker 2: Dallas in that game they tied, and so that will

1678
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Speaker 2: be worth paying attention to. We'll go to Wisconsin coming

1679
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Speaker 2: up in just about forty minutes in the meantime. Uh, Terrell,

1680
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Speaker 2: you're on ESPN fifteen thirty Aryl.

1681
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Speaker 7: How are you are yourself? It's been a while.

1682
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Speaker 1: How you been downtown?

1683
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Speaker 12: What I've been fine?

1684
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Speaker 1: Good?

1685
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Speaker 15: So I think that Joe Flacko's thing may work, and

1686
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 15: I'm gonna tell you why.

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01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 7: Okay, he could be covered too.

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01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 13: And one thing about Joe Flaco, he loved the tighties.

1689
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 19: I think the tiers are going to eat and they're

1690
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 19: gonna open it up for takes and Tie Higgins.

1691
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Speaker 2: I think he likes to throw the open guy. And

1692
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 2: so for me, we're we're comparing him to horrific quarterback

1693
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 2: play the last three weeks. And when I think of

1694
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 2: Jake Browning, I think of these last three games, the

1695
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 2: amount of times that I saw a guy who was open,

1696
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 2: whether it be Chase, whether it be Mike Asiki, whoever

1697
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 2: it was, And there have been times where Jake Browning

1698
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:19,919
Speaker 2: did not even look at him. If if Joe Flacco

1699
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 2: gets time, I believe he will throw the ball to

1700
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,719
Speaker 2: the guy who's open, whether that's Chase or anybody else.

1701
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 2: And that sounds like a very basic place to start.

1702
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 2: But Jake Browning couldn't do.

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01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 7: That, and I agree even when he had time.

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01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 2: I hope we're right, all right, nice, all right, No,

1705
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:41,799
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I'm like, that's that's the thing here, okay,

1706
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 2: Like God knows, we've talked about this all week long.

1707
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 2: They were sifting through a bunch of not great options,

1708
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 2: like a lot of folks wanted Russell Wilson.

1709
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: Had it been Russell Wilson.

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01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 2: Fine, my take was basically, any living breathing human being

1711
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 2: that's not Jake Browning and Russell Wilson would have call it.

1712
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 2: But the dude has been let go by Seattle, given

1713
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 2: away by not given away necessarily, but traded away by Seattle,

1714
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 2: like teams don't just trade good quarterbacks. The Broncos said,

1715
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 2: now we're good with this, The Steelers said, yeah, we're

1716
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 2: good with this, and the Giants have said, yeah, we're

1717
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 2: good with this. Now we can we can go on

1718
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 2: about how those teams may feel like they have upgraded.

1719
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:25,560
Speaker 2: But still so, Russell Wilson would have been okay considering

1720
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 2: the circumstances. But chances are you weren't getting vintage twenty

1721
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen Russell Wilson. Jameis Winston would have been fun

1722
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 2: I'd have had a blast with Jameis Winston, and chances

1723
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 2: are there would have been high moments. There's a reason

1724
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 2: that dude is a third stringer in New York. Joe

1725
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Speaker 2: Flacco lost his gig. Joe Flacco's old Joe Flacco is immobile.

1726
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco couldn't hold down the starting gig in Cleveland.

1727
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 2: But the bar is so low, The bar that you're

1728
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 2: trying to get your quarterback now to clear is so low.

1729
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 2: I'll take simply throwing the ball to the open guy.

1730
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 2: There's a bit of a ticking time bomb element to

1731
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 2: this because of the bad offensive line, Joe Flacco's lack

1732
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:14,520
Speaker 2: of mobility, Like that's that's inescapable, literally and figuratively inescapable.

1733
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 2: But I'm I'm starting with can can do learn the offense?

1734
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 2: Can he diagnose what the other team's defense is doing,

1735
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 2: which it didn't feel like Jake Browning could. And when

1736
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase is twelve yards away open, will Joe Flacco

1737
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 2: try to throw Try to throw him the ball. It

1738
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 2: may not get completed, maybe he can't get it there.

1739
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 2: Though arm strength and Joe Flacco, those things have never

1740
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 2: been questioned with Jake Browning the answer was no, So

1741
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 2: I'll start there. We're this is it's beyond unfortunate that

1742
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 2: we're here. The main reason why we're here is Joe

1743
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 2: Burrow got hurt. The main reason why Joe Burrow got

1744
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 2: hurt as they couldn't protect him.

1745
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 1: This is.

1746
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 2: This is where we are, though, trying to improve upon

1747
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 2: quarterback play where the dude couldn't do the absolute basics

1748
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:14,799
Speaker 2: where he failed a remedial class in QB play.

1749
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 1: And so.

1750
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 2: They're fourteen and a half point dogs for a reason.

1751
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 2: Green Bay is probably better than they've played the last

1752
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 2: two weeks. I don't trust the Bengals defense. They've missed

1753
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 2: a lot of tackles. Ryan Rico doesn't look like he

1754
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 2: knows how to punt. They can't run the football. The

1755
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 2: offensive line is putrid. They would be underdogs in this

1756
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 2: game with Joe Burrow, maybe not fourteen and a half.

1757
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 2: They would be underdogs in this game with Joe Burrow.

1758
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 2: Chances of winning this game don't seem great.

1759
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 12: But.

1760
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 2: I think there's a better chance of watching them compete

1761
01:24:55,960 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 2: with Joe Flacco as opposed to Jake Browning. And in

1762
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 2: lieu of Jake Browning, you were gonna get a less

1763
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 2: than ideal option a desperate football team. It's a desperate

1764
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:11,560
Speaker 2: football team that still sees a path to the postseason.

1765
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 2: And I get it, Like we may laugh at it.

1766
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: It's week six.

1767
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 2: Man, if somebody called our show on Tuesday and want

1768
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 2: of the Bengals to tank, like you may look at

1769
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 2: the bright side of them falling apart and earning a

1770
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 2: top five seed. I cannot imagine. I cannot imagine what

1771
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 2: it would have felt like to watch the Bengals run

1772
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:37,639
Speaker 2: Jake Browning out there because now they're trying to lose.

1773
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:41,680
Speaker 2: That was not gonna happen. That shouldn't happen. By the way,

1774
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 2: you can't say to a head coach you're on the

1775
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 2: hot seat and then give him no chance at working

1776
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 2: with somebody who might be a better option that that

1777
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 2: doesn't work. I'm gonna believe the Bengals have not made

1778
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 2: any decision about Zach Taylor's future. You can't say he's

1779
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 2: on the hot seat. But man, I wish they would

1780
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 2: blow the season. That's not fair. So I don't think

1781
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 2: the Bengals will make the postseason. With Joe Flacco. I

1782
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 2: didn't think the Bengals were gonna make the postseason with

1783
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 2: Jake Browning. I didn't think the Bengals were gonna win

1784
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 2: a championship with Joe Burrow, but anything but the status

1785
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 2: quo had to be what they did, and they have

1786
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 2: and we'll seem right my expectations. I'm starting from the

1787
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 2: lowest possible point. Can Joe Flacco look at Jamar Chase

1788
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 2: and go, hey, he's open, Mike, try to throw it

1789
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 2: to him. If he can check that box, We'll go

1790
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 2: from there. Corey, thank you for your patience. You're on

1791
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,640
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty.

1792
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 21: Hey Mo, thanks for taking my call. I'm a fist

1793
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 21: time caller, a longtime listener, and just quickly wanted to

1794
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 21: pour one out for Tony Pike. I'm actually a Buckeye

1795
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 21: fan up in Columbus, but of course remember the Orange

1796
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 21: Bowl in two thousand and eight, and it's got a

1797
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 21: kind of followed him ever since. And uh just want

1798
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 21: to echo some other people and just you know, your

1799
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 21: your guys chemistry made me care about ut.

1800
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:12,799
Speaker 7: And I think that's.

1801
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 21: Saying a lot about his talent, both of your talent.

1802
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 12: But.

1803
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 21: I just just to see him go from that level

1804
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 21: of quarterback play and then into this sports broadcasting career.

1805
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 21: I just I think it's a huge shame that he's

1806
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 21: not gonna be with you anymore and not with the network,

1807
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 21: and uh, but I do think, you know, something big

1808
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 21: is gonna happen for him. So I just wanted to

1809
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 21: shout him out because I think, especially like the Tony

1810
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,719
Speaker 21: and Mo Football Show is one of the best sports

1811
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 21: radio shows I've heard in my life, and I've been

1812
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 21: listening to sports radio for a long time. So just

1813
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 21: the credibility and evaluating and evaluating the game as a

1814
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 21: former quarterback, I think.

1815
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 12: It goes a long way.

1816
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 21: But them bringing the humor and the kind of self deprecating.

1817
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 12: Humor and out too is it's huge.

1818
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 21: But yeah, I do have a question about Zach Taylor

1819
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 21: if you have a second, and kind of in the

1820
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 21: spirit of Tony, because I always loved how honest he was,

1821
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 21: and I know in your guy's line of business, you

1822
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,640
Speaker 21: kind of have to tow the line with some of

1823
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 21: you know, your rubbing elbows with these people and have

1824
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 21: to see him face to face. But it's the Zach

1825
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 21: Taylor part of all this, and I have a legitimate

1826
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 21: question for anyone. It's like, has this guy ever in

1827
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 21: his career with the Bengals ever out coached a team,

1828
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:36,719
Speaker 21: and that's a legitimate question.

1829
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 7: I'm not even.

1830
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 21: Necessarily punching down. I'm going through the rollot X since

1831
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 21: he's been here, and I'm wondering if there's ever been

1832
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 21: a game that we can honestly say he straight out

1833
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 21: coached the other team.

1834
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 1: So I'll answer that first of all.

1835
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 2: First of all, everything you just said about Tony number

1836
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 2: one referencing the show, thank you. That's kind of you,

1837
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 2: and we're thrilled that you've listened. Hopefully you continue to.

1838
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 2: And everything you said about Tony, I could not agree

1839
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 2: more with. You know, I miss him and I miss

1840
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 2: being in here with him, and we miss him at

1841
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 2: the radio station, and the idea that we're going to

1842
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 2: do a show on Monday not together kills me because

1843
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 2: it's fun, it's also good, and I hate it when

1844
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 2: we take away what's good. And Tony is good and

1845
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 2: good at what he does, and he makes me better,

1846
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:27,639
Speaker 2: He makes the radio station better. I think he makes

1847
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 2: football fans smarter. He adds an element of analysis that

1848
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 2: you're not going to find anywhere else, and you'll find

1849
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 2: it somewhere wherever Tony goes. Because he's going to go

1850
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 2: somewhere and he's gonna be awesome, and I.

1851
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: Will be.

1852
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 2: A loyal member of that audience. But yeah, man, I

1853
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 2: couldn't agree more. As for Zach Taylor, here's here's how

1854
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 2: I'll answer that question. I'll give you a specific example

1855
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 2: where I think, and I'm not here to tell you

1856
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor's a great coach because we've wailed away on

1857
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 2: him now for a little bit. I thought the game

1858
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty where he had Ryan Finley against the Steelers,

1859
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 2: I thought Zach Bak Taylor did a great job of

1860
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 2: just piecing together something that worked. It helped that the

1861
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 2: Steelers at that point were starting to trend downward. But

1862
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 2: I thought there was that was a night where in

1863
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 2: a game that nobody expected them to win in primetime

1864
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 2: with Ryan Finley, who would never play another game in

1865
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 2: the NFL, the team that night I thought looked ready.

1866
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 2: I thought in the postseason, I thought the fact that

1867
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 2: they were able to put together offensive game plans knowing

1868
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 2: the offensive line wasn't going to block anybody in twenty

1869
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 2: twenty one, where they were sitting down going all right,

1870
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 2: our quarterback's going to get hit and get hit a lot,

1871
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 2: and he's going to take sacks and he's going to

1872
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 2: have to make the right decisions. But to sit down

1873
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 2: and come up with a way to beat opponents when

1874
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 2: you know your offensive line is that bad, I think

1875
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 2: that's a credit to Zach Taylor. I think the twenty

1876
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 2: twenty three stretch where Jake Browning played here, you have

1877
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 2: a quarterback who has never played before and you won games.

1878
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 2: I think that is it was a credit to Jake,

1879
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 2: a credit to their team. I think that was a

1880
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 2: credit to Zach Taylor. I don't know though, that there

1881
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 2: are enough examples of that to make anybody feel like,

1882
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:11,480
Speaker 2: on a consistent basis, he gives the Bengals a tactical advantage.

1883
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 21: I completely agree, and I appreciate and pointing out those

1884
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:19,679
Speaker 21: specific games because it's.

1885
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 12: Been a while.

1886
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 22: But to me, it comes down to like the audacity

1887
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 22: that he's won like forty years old, and he how

1888
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 22: he could believe that he's one of the.

1889
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 21: Best thirty two offensive minds in the call of the world.

1890
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 21: I just don't understand how he could believe that, because

1891
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 21: when you look at his career trajectory, it almost is

1892
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 21: like he's fallen upwards and I do appreciate culture, and

1893
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 21: I think he's a really good culture guy. But when

1894
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 21: he looked at Martin Lewis's superpower, because that wasn't x's

1895
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 21: and o's either, but he got ownership to let him

1896
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 21: kind of make this visions, and I don't see Zach.

1897
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 21: So he's not bringing the x's and no's, and he's not,

1898
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 21: in my opinion, playing the front office to make the

1899
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,639
Speaker 21: right decisions, whether it's in the draft or free agency

1900
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 21: or what have you. But I'll hang up and listen.

1901
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 21: I appreciate you taking my call.

1902
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 1: Okay, I appreciate the phone call and the kind words. Corey.

1903
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 2: I guess I look at it. I look at it

1904
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 2: like this. I think, there, this is not the first

1905
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 2: time I've said this. This isn't the first season I've

1906
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 2: said this. When I think of the last five years

1907
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 2: where the Bengals have not had a losing season at

1908
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 2: least to this point, during that stretch, I often think

1909
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 2: of long offensive lulls. And that's even been when Joe

1910
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,839
Speaker 2: Burrow has been terrific in the middle of great years

1911
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:51,719
Speaker 2: with terrific offensive weaponry. And so my take has always

1912
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 2: been that it's worth examining whether or not somebody else

1913
01:32:57,280 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 2: calling the plays could improve the offense's overall efficiency. I

1914
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 2: have no remote idea into.

1915
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 1: What goes into calling an NFL play. I don't pretend to.

1916
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 2: It's why I'm like the last guy on earth to

1917
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:14,640
Speaker 2: ever talk about play calling. But I've watched like a

1918
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 2: level of clunkiness that has been there, and I've often

1919
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 2: this is something Tony and I have talked about for years.

1920
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:22,639
Speaker 2: Does it make sense to just have somebody else call

1921
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 2: the play? And if the answer is, well, we'll try it,

1922
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 2: but it doesn't work, okay? And so I view Zach.

1923
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 2: I've viewed Zach as a decent NFL head coach. I

1924
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:35,879
Speaker 2: don't really feel that strongly about him, and that's maybe

1925
01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 2: an indictment against him because he's been here for six

1926
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 2: and a half years. After six and a half years,

1927
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 2: I should feel strongly. But I do think he's been

1928
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 2: a decent game manager. I do think for the most part,

1929
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 2: you've seen teams play hard for him. I do think

1930
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 2: he has avoided having the team collapse when there's been adversity.

1931
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 2: Maybe the last few weeks aren't very good examples of that.

1932
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 2: My biggest question has always been why doesn't the offense

1933
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:03,919
Speaker 2: function at its fullest capability, and is it worth examining

1934
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 2: whether or not he should be the guy calling plays.

1935
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 2: I I'll look at twenty twenty six this way for

1936
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 2: the Bengals to go from what they were at the

1937
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 2: beginning of the year to what they are right now,

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Speaker 2: to a team that can legitimately go into next season

1939
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Speaker 2: contending for a championship. I think so many things have

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Speaker 2: to happen that don't have that much to do with

1941
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Speaker 2: who Zach Taylor with Zach Taylor's job, like if they

1942
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Speaker 2: hire a new head coach, Okay, if they keep Zach Taylor.

1943
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Speaker 2: I think they need a better roster. I think they

1944
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Speaker 2: need a dramatically better defense. I think they need an

1945
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Speaker 2: improved offensive line. I just this team when Joe Burrow

1946
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Speaker 2: was healthy. Many of us did not look at this

1947
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Speaker 2: from the standpoint of them being a championship contender because

1948
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Speaker 2: the roster was either unproven or deficient or brought too

1949
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Speaker 2: many guys back from last year's team. I think the

1950
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 2: Bengals coaching should be examined. I think Zach Taylor is

1951
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:03,720
Speaker 2: very much on notice, at least for me, over the

1952
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Speaker 2: course of the next twelve games.

1953
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Speaker 1: But I look more at the roster.

1954
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Speaker 2: I look more at the inactivity this offseason and the

1955
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Speaker 2: unwillingness to overhaul the defense, the inability to the front

1956
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Speaker 2: office to build good offensive lines and protect Joe Burrow.

1957
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Speaker 2: Those to me are bigger issues, and I look at

1958
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Speaker 2: those as kind of independent of Zach. I don't feel

1959
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Speaker 2: that strongly about Zach. I feel more strongly about guys

1960
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Speaker 2: like Kyle Shanahan because I watched that dude a week

1961
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Speaker 2: ago figure something out against the LA Rams on a

1962
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,679
Speaker 2: short week, and maybe they should get a head coach

1963
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Speaker 2: that I feel that way about. But I don't know

1964
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Speaker 2: man from twenty twenty five to twenty twenty six, I

1965
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Speaker 2: don't think the biggest change can be head coach if

1966
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Speaker 2: they change head coaches.

1967
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Speaker 1: Jay Morrison.

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Speaker 17: part five Postman Law and Vice. Skyline Chilly on ESPN

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Speaker 17: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengal.

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Speaker 2: All Right, J Morrison from Bengals Talk dot Com is

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Speaker 2: with us because he joins us every single Thursday. Also

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Speaker 2: part of the Growler podcast, and uh with us because

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Speaker 2: you know it's Thursday at that time. Hi, Jay, Hey Moe,

1986
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Speaker 2: as have you noticed this is the building? Are the

1987
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 2: guys reinvigorated with the arrival of Joe Flacco?

1988
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Speaker 7: Yeah? I think they are.

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Speaker 13: I don't think anybody has any delusions of grand or

1990
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Speaker 13: that he's going to be, you know, the next coming

1991
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 13: of whoever, Tom Brady or whatever. But when you're going

1992
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Speaker 13: as bad as they were, any kind of change can

1993
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 13: light a spark. So I think there's there's a lot

1994
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 13: of optimism. And I do get the sense that it

1995
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Speaker 13: kind of feels almost like a rebirth for the offense.

1996
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Speaker 7: We'll see what it looks like. But things were so

1997
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 7: bad and even.

1998
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:30,680
Speaker 13: They knew that what that fourth quarter was that was

1999
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 13: just kind of a cosmetic comeback, and I do get

2000
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 13: the sense that there is renewed energy in the building.

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Speaker 2: Is his lack of mobility compare with that offensive line,

2002
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 2: does that make him a ticking time bomb?

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Speaker 7: It's hard to say.

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01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 13: The experience would let you think that that if he

2005
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 13: sees danger coming, he'll get rid of the ball.

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Speaker 7: But you still get hit after you get rid of the.

2007
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Speaker 13: Ball sometimes, So that is a concern because is not

2008
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 13: just the volume of hits, but he's forty and as

2009
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 13: all of us that have crossed that threshold knows, the body,

2010
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 13: the body starts breaking down at that time and any

2011
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 13: hit can can become a problem. And you've got one

2012
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 13: of the most fearsome edge rushers in the league waiting

2013
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 13: for him and Michael Parsons, so that that part is

2014
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 13: a little unnerving. And you know, I know Paul Danner

2015
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 13: and I have talked about it on the podcast. We

2016
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 13: don't think we've seen the last of Jake Browning throwing

2017
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 13: passes for this team. Not that you're wishing any kind

2018
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 13: of ill will, but logic would say that that, you know,

2019
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 13: at some point Joe Black was probably going to miss

2020
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 13: some snaps here, if not a game as this season

2021
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 13: goes on, that that offensive line just is a little

2022
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 13: too leaky to feel really good about putting anybody back there,

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01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:48,880
Speaker 13: especially someone who's as immobile.

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Speaker 7: As Joe Flacco. So you're over forty yeah, yeah, quite

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Speaker 7: a bit.

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Speaker 13: Like the fifty percent.

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Speaker 1: More, gotcha?

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Speaker 2: Okay, just figured I figured i'd ask, uh, what's your

2029
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 2: what's your take? I thought it was cool that he

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01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 2: made himself available because he had no obligation. What are

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on how Jake Browning has handled his demotion?

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Speaker 7: I think it's everything you'd want.

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Speaker 13: You want a guy to be upset and and and

2034
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:21,439
Speaker 13: you know, maybe there is a tinge of uh, it's

2035
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 13: not all my fault and that, and that didn't sound

2036
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Speaker 13: the best. But the fact that he talked alone, you know,

2037
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:31,000
Speaker 13: he didn't have to do that, and he talked about

2038
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Speaker 13: how brutal it is. He that you know, when you

2039
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,640
Speaker 13: get cut, that's really hard, but you don't have to

2040
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:37,799
Speaker 13: sit there and do meetia and talk about why it happened,

2041
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Speaker 13: and to get benched in a public way like that,

2042
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Speaker 13: and then to have to sit there and answer questions

2043
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Speaker 13: about it. I thought he handled it really well and

2044
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Speaker 13: and I think he's going to handle it going forward

2045
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 13: really well. That's he's a guy that he knows he's

2046
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 13: want snap away from being thrown back in there. He

2047
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,040
Speaker 13: doesn't want it to look like what it looked like

2048
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:57,679
Speaker 13: the last three four weeks. So he's going to study

2049
01:39:57,680 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 13: and prepare and do everything he needs to do to

2050
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Speaker 13: to make it look like twenty twenty three if he

2051
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:05,679
Speaker 13: does get another chance, instead of looking like weeks two

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Speaker 13: through five.

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Speaker 2: How quote dumbed down do you expect the offense to be?

2054
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Speaker 13: That's a good question.

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Speaker 7: I would say not that much.

2056
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Speaker 13: Talking to Jamar and Tea today, they were really impressed

2057
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:28,759
Speaker 13: with how much Placco knew the offense already, and Jamar

2058
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 13: talking in there, he's just like spitting the plays out

2059
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:35,640
Speaker 13: faster than Joe Burrow ever did. And they don't feel

2060
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 13: like he's a new guy. You know, he's in it's

2061
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 13: what forty eight hours that he's been learning this, But

2062
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 13: you know, when you've been in this league, this in

2063
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 13: the league this long, it's all kind of the same.

2064
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 13: It's just different terminology, and he is really bright, really smart,

2065
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Speaker 13: and he's able to translate what this was somewhere else

2066
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 13: and learn getting the verbiage down. And I don't think

2067
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 13: it could be expanded. I think we might see more

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01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 13: under center. We might see some of the things people

2069
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Speaker 13: have been clamoring for, more play action, more running game.

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Speaker 13: I'm really interested to see how that's going to look

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Speaker 13: on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: How do you have more of a running game if

2073
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Speaker 1: you can't run the ball.

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Speaker 7: Well, more running attempts?

2075
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:18,520
Speaker 12: How about that?

2076
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 14: Oh?

2077
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Speaker 1: Oh great, I can't wait.

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Speaker 13: Jay, it's been a struggle. But if you're under center

2079
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Speaker 13: and I just I don't know. I think this one

2080
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:35,680
Speaker 13: change could unlock some things. And if it does go

2081
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 13: poorly early, then yeah, it's going to look like the

2082
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 13: last few weeks where they're dropping back the throw all

2083
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 13: the time. But this I do think that the way

2084
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 13: that they would put Jake and Joe and Shotgun as much,

2085
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 13: that might go away a little bit and it could

2086
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 13: could call some ripple changes.

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Speaker 2: We will see. It's definitely interesting, there's no question about that.

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Speaker 2: Jay appreciate it as always, Thanks so much. All right,

2089
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Speaker 2: thanks Bo, that's our guy. Jay Morrison on Twitter at

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Speaker 2: by Jay Morrison, read him Bengals Talk doc. We are

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Speaker 15: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You been doing this show for seven years? Am I correct?

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Speaker 12: Yes? Eight years?

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Speaker 1: Eight years?

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Speaker 2: How many callers when they call the show and don't

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Speaker 2: get on immediately send you a mean email while they're

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Speaker 2: waiting on hold?

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Speaker 1: Only one? Mike? Why is that?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike, why are sending Tarn mean emails while we know?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 7: I didn't. No, no, no, he said.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna do better. Take Mike's call. He's sent him

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Speaker 1: a grumpy email.

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Speaker 15: No I didn't.

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Speaker 7: I said I got some good content for most see

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Speaker 7: if you can help me get on the show. I

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Speaker 7: got some content for an MLB playoffs tonight. That's what

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Speaker 7: I said. It wasn't an.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the Tarn categorize and now I've gotten some grumpy

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Speaker 2: emails from you before while you're waiting, so you know,

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Speaker 2: but that wasn't.

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Speaker 15: One of them. Just look at it.

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Speaker 7: Verbatim. So anyway, thanks for letting me on. Thank you Karen.

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Speaker 7: By the way, I know you threw me under the

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Speaker 7: bus for some reason.

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Speaker 2: But now I fear that we have set a precedent

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Speaker 2: where if you're waiting, you're going to get to the

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Speaker 2: front of the line if all you do is send

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Speaker 2: a grumpy email while you're waiting. And so now I

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Speaker 2: feel like everybody is going to copy this tactic.

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Speaker 7: Oh no, I'm sorry. Well, yeah, I got a hole

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Speaker 7: on my leg right now, so I'm a little cranky.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I would be too.

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Speaker 12: Go ahead, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 15: Uh you know how you know how they when you

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Speaker 15: go to these molpe these uh these model home developments,

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Speaker 15: these new home developments, and out front they'll say.

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Speaker 7: Built by so and so builder. This is what I

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Speaker 7: think is they should have parenthetically regarding since he's three

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Speaker 7: sixty and then in parentheses built by Tony Pipe.

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01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 1: I think I think that's appropriate. I think that's I

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01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 1: think it is very appropriate.

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01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:30,600
Speaker 7: Yes, thoughts and things happen in threes, right, the Bengals,

2159
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:33,679
Speaker 7: Joe got hurt and the Reds crept out in the playoffs,

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01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:36,559
Speaker 7: and now Tony gets the acts. I mean, it's it's

2161
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 7: kind of weird how those three things, those that threesome thing.

2162
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:42,720
Speaker 7: I've noticed that my whole life. I used to discount,

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01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:44,360
Speaker 7: but now I'm starting to think it's real.

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01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 1: But I hadn't made that correlation. But maybe maybe I

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01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 1: should have.

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01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:55,799
Speaker 7: Go ahead. That's not that important. It's an interesting facts

2167
01:45:55,840 --> 01:46:00,559
Speaker 7: on tonight's game with Billy and the Dodgers. Okay, chaoscar

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01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:03,799
Speaker 7: Hernandez is hitting three thirty three with two home runs

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01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 7: in his career against Sanchez. The starter for Phillips, jo

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01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:12,679
Speaker 7: Hey O'tani is hitting just two eleven or for nineteen

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01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 7: in his career against Sanchez. Wow. Kyle Schwarber is hitting

2172
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 7: is two for thirteen one fifty four in his career

2173
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:26,439
Speaker 7: against glass Now, and the only Phillies player to have

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01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:31,639
Speaker 7: gone yard against Tyler glass Now is Max Kepler, who

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01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 7: I thought I saw in some kind of seedy movie

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01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:42,759
Speaker 7: one time years ago when they did the credits.

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01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,760
Speaker 2: What's interesting to me is Otani. You know, we saw

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01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 2: him like single handily obliterate the Reds in game one,

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01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 2: and since then he's two for what two for his

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01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:52,560
Speaker 2: last eighteen.

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01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 7: Don't like that? Yeah, it's not good. I can't figure it,

2182
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 7: but nobody can figure it.

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01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 2: Did you feel like the Dodgers did, did Clayton Kershall

2184
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 2: dirty by kind of leaving him out to dry last

2185
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:06,760
Speaker 2: night when they brought him in and he had the

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01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 2: disastrous I got one, they brought him in, he got

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01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:12,639
Speaker 2: a great ovation, he had a disastrous eight inning eighth inning,

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01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:14,600
Speaker 2: and it kind of felt to me like they just

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01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:16,920
Speaker 2: they let him wear it in a way that you

2190
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 2: don't let a Hall of Fame pitcher wear it, especially

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01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:19,439
Speaker 2: at home.

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01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I hit mixed feelings on that, because we know

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01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:26,840
Speaker 7: Clayton has a lot of trouble in the postseason. It's

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01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:30,720
Speaker 7: the most strange thing I've ever seen in sports. You know,

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01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 7: It's almost like Jim Kelway. You can be a great

2196
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 7: quarterback to regular season, you can't win a damn super Bowl,

2197
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,720
Speaker 7: but Clayton is just so bad in the playoffs. I've

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01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 7: never figured that out. But I thought it was a

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01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:45,400
Speaker 7: little classless that Dave Roberts did that. But I know

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01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 7: Dave Roberts, who isn't a classless guy, So yeah, I

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01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 7: think he was just trying to save as many guys

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01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 7: as he could, and he almost gave up the game

2203
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 7: and said, to hell, it will play tomorrow.

2204
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:57,840
Speaker 2: Maybe I just he gave up the homer to Real

2205
01:47:57,920 --> 01:47:59,679
Speaker 2: Moodo to lead off the eighth.

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01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:00,960
Speaker 1: They made it for one.

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01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 2: He walked Kepler and then there was an air on Muncie.

2208
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 2: They bunt the guy over. Turner gets a hit at

2209
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:11,840
Speaker 2: six to one, and it's like, all right, this game

2210
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 2: is out of hand. He had already pitched the seventh.

2211
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 2: Now he's back out there for the eighth. And then

2212
01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 2: Schwarber hits a home run off of him, and Clayton

2213
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,479
Speaker 2: Kershaw is a Hall of Famer and by all accounts

2214
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:25,200
Speaker 2: like one of the classiest dudes ever. I just thought,

2215
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:27,880
Speaker 2: in that moment, all right, you're gonna have to have

2216
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 2: somebody else pitch the ninth. I understand, you don't want

2217
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 2: to burn every bullet you've got to play the next day.

2218
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:36,480
Speaker 2: I just felt like there are a lot of managers

2219
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 2: who would have said to Clayton Kershaw, Okay, we're gonna

2220
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:40,680
Speaker 2: pull you and not let you wear it.

2221
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:41,799
Speaker 1: And that's not what happened.

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01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, and believe me, believe me. Dave Roberts and the

2223
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:49,679
Speaker 7: pitching coach, Mark Pryor had taken a lot of heat

2224
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 7: today in the LA time, a lot of heat and

2225
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 7: also on a couple of talk shows out there. So

2226
01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:58,840
Speaker 7: most people are in agreement with you, and I am too.

2227
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 7: I don't.

2228
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 12: I'm not.

2229
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 7: I'm not really sure that. I thought it was a

2230
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 7: little bit for So who do you like tonight?

2231
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:11,040
Speaker 2: I think Milwaukee's gonna close it out. I worry that

2232
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 2: that Philly lineup for year behalf. I worry that that

2233
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 2: Philly lineupists has started to get going. M h. I

2234
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 2: want game fives, like I want in every possible series.

2235
01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:24,479
Speaker 2: I want a decisive game. So I am, You're not

2236
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:26,400
Speaker 2: gonna like it? I am, I am. I am rooting

2237
01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:28,800
Speaker 2: for a Game five in at least one of the

2238
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 2: two series. So we have we have that on Saturday.

2239
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, I do too. But if the Dodgers went and

2240
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:40,240
Speaker 7: I won't be mad, of course, anything you got anything

2241
01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:40,640
Speaker 7: on it?

2242
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:44,640
Speaker 2: No, No, I have a I have a Brewers Mariners

2243
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:47,439
Speaker 2: World Series wager that I made at the start of

2244
01:49:47,479 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 2: the postseason where those two teams just have to make it.

2245
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, we you and I were in agreement. We both

2246
01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:56,880
Speaker 7: have that. Yeah, let me ask you this and then

2247
01:49:56,920 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 7: I'll go. I know you gotta go. How did you

2248
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:01,599
Speaker 7: end up? Well, we should have ended up the same

2249
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 7: with the home Dog for the regular season. If you've

2250
01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 7: played every day.

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01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:07,280
Speaker 2: Home Dog this year was the best it's been since

2252
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 2: you told us about it three or four years ago.

2253
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 2: Home Dog this year was awesome, Like it was from

2254
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:16,720
Speaker 2: the get go. Uh, it's it's the best piece of

2255
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 2: gambling advice I literally have ever heard, Mike.

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01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I get it from some guys you would

2257
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:24,639
Speaker 7: never ever.

2258
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:29,519
Speaker 1: Dream you got it from a guy in prison, right, Yeah.

2259
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 7: Vito jack Alonia, handsome Italian guy with a wooden lake

2260
01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 7: from the knee down, and he was about thirty years

2261
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 7: older than me.

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01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:42,360
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad he I'm glad he made that positive

2263
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 2: contribution to society. Mike, I I do have to run man. Okay,

2264
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 2: thanks a lot, buddy. I appreciatere you go.

2265
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 1: Did we ever figure out why Mike was in prison?

2266
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:55,799
Speaker 11: Uh?

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01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 2: Tony, you're on ESPN thirty high Tony. I'm sorry, Jason.

2268
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Jason you're on ESPN. Been a long week, Jason,

2269
01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:04,759
Speaker 2: You're on ESPN fifteen thirty.

2270
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 7: How you doing?

2271
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 1: Do you sound amazing? What's up?

2272
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:10,360
Speaker 7: All right?

2273
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:13,719
Speaker 10: So I've been following this on Twitter with Tony.

2274
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:14,960
Speaker 7: You know all that.

2275
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:17,559
Speaker 1: How's it? How's how's it? How's it going over there

2276
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 1: on Twitter by the.

2277
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:24,680
Speaker 10: Way, uh fad okay, gotcha, it's bad, yes, but he

2278
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:27,800
Speaker 10: posted a tweet and I just wanted to read one

2279
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:28,760
Speaker 10: and I sent back to.

2280
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:32,200
Speaker 1: Him okay and just real quick.

2281
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:37,120
Speaker 7: And I lost it.

2282
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:42,800
Speaker 10: So long story start, It was like, it's hard to

2283
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:48,000
Speaker 10: find Treating people like numbers is no way to operate

2284
01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:50,599
Speaker 10: a business. It's hard to find, it's hard to find

2285
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:54,600
Speaker 10: people that excel at their job. Letting one go is inexcusable.

2286
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 10: That's basically what I.

2287
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:59,719
Speaker 1: Said, get no argument for me, and and.

2288
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:00,519
Speaker 7: That's what they did.

2289
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 10: Man. I mean, he was it was part of my day, right,

2290
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 10: and I'd come home from work and my wife a kiss,

2291
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 10: get her hug, and she knew. For next two to

2292
01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:13,600
Speaker 10: and a half hours, I'm sitting here listening to the

2293
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:19,680
Speaker 10: podcast right and it just, uh, it sucks me. My

2294
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 10: My all time favorite Tonati sports thing is pipe.

2295
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 7: The beds mm hm, both you and me, both all

2296
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 7: time favorite.

2297
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:31,519
Speaker 10: I always remember where I was, what happened seeing that

2298
01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 10: flag and then seeing him excuse me, jump up and

2299
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:40,599
Speaker 10: down after he saw the flag was on the defense

2300
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 10: and it and it sucks.

2301
01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 1: That's all I got I have.

2302
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:49,559
Speaker 2: I have a no I can't add any more to

2303
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 2: that that I haven't already I do.

2304
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 1: I do want to know this.

2305
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 2: When you come home and kiss your wife and tell

2306
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:56,120
Speaker 2: her you're going to listen to a podcast, what is

2307
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 2: usually her reaction.

2308
01:52:58,560 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 7: She she knows.

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01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:01,680
Speaker 21: It's it's part of my.

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01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:04,640
Speaker 1: Deal, gotcha? All right? That's the thing, man, you know,

2311
01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 1: and I said this yesterday.

2312
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:08,680
Speaker 2: The fact that people feel that way about Tony, that

2313
01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:10,240
Speaker 2: he was a part of their lives. And you know,

2314
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:13,040
Speaker 2: somebody called us yesterday and said, I feel like, you know,

2315
01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:15,400
Speaker 2: somebody has taken away a member of my family. That

2316
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:19,479
Speaker 2: to me, more than anything else, shows you that Tony

2317
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:23,360
Speaker 2: did his job. Because that's ultimately the goal here, right,

2318
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 2: And I don't know that I've ever achieved it, but

2319
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 2: that is ultimately the goal here. Where you want people

2320
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,600
Speaker 2: to tune in, and maybe it's for ten minutes, you know,

2321
01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:34,200
Speaker 2: during their their ten minute drive home, or maybe in

2322
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:37,559
Speaker 2: Tony and Austin's case, it's during Hey, I got thirty

2323
01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 2: minutes for lunch, and I'm going to turn those guys on.

2324
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:42,679
Speaker 2: The idea is to become a part of people's routine

2325
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 2: and for the audience to feel like you're a part

2326
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:48,400
Speaker 2: of their life, and the fact that you and others

2327
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 2: have said that about Tony and that show means that

2328
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 2: he did his job. I don't know if there's a

2329
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 2: better reflection of how well he did his job than that.

2330
01:53:59,360 --> 01:53:59,880
Speaker 7: Exactly.

2331
01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:02,640
Speaker 10: I mean, he was he was one of us, the

2332
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 10: way you bubble thirty English language and remissed and standpoint,

2333
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 10: you know, all that stuff that was just that was

2334
01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 10: still that was what he was, and they would make

2335
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:17,240
Speaker 10: fun of them. And I swore one of these days

2336
01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 10: I was going to sit there and count how many

2337
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:19,920
Speaker 10: times he was a standpoint.

2338
01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:23,879
Speaker 2: You know, we we all, Jason, we all have our crutches,

2339
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:26,880
Speaker 2: and that might have been his. But that's uh, you know,

2340
01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:29,160
Speaker 2: that's that's part of the fun of listening to a show,

2341
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 2: right you. You pick up on all those things, you

2342
01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 2: pick up on people's verbal tics, you pick up on

2343
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:36,880
Speaker 2: you know, the their go to phrases. God knows I

2344
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 2: of mine. There are way too many. But I I

2345
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 2: hope you stay in the audience of this radio station

2346
01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:45,480
Speaker 2: and at the very least of Sincy three sixty, because

2347
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:48,240
Speaker 2: Austin's still there and is going to do a hell

2348
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:48,640
Speaker 2: of a job.

2349
01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:49,000
Speaker 1: Okay.

2350
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 10: I will absolutely continue to listen Austin's a good do

2351
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:54,080
Speaker 10: doo terrific.

2352
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 1: All right, man, thanks so much.

2353
01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 7: Thanks, all right, there you go, Taren.

2354
01:54:58,720 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 1: How are we on time?

2355
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:00,680
Speaker 12: We're at three minutes?

2356
01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 1: I got three minutes? Vinnie? You can have those three minutes?

2357
01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 1: What's up?

2358
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 15: Oh?

2359
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:07,040
Speaker 1: No, how you doing?

2360
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:07,440
Speaker 7: Vinnie?

2361
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 8: From me?

2362
01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 13: Eskate Man, Vinnie, it's I don't want to sound.

2363
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 23: Like a broken record, man, but I can't believe this

2364
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 23: Tony thing man, And most so you gotta understand, like

2365
01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 23: I'm going to talk back. I'm an honorary talkback Hall

2366
01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:23,840
Speaker 23: of Famer. You've got to understand, man, Like Tony's like

2367
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 23: a big.

2368
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 13: Brother to me.

2369
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,760
Speaker 7: What can we do? Like I'm old enough to remember.

2370
01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 23: When Eddie was let go and came back.

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Speaker 10: Can we get him back?

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01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 23: Man?

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01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:32,840
Speaker 6: Like?

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01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 7: Maybe me you Willie Rocky?

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01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 21: Can we like picket somewhere? What do we gotta do here?

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01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:40,040
Speaker 15: Yeah?

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01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing.

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01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 2: Right as somebody in the audience, you you feel helpless, right,

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01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 2: Like that's that's the worst part decisions made and you

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01:55:47,240 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 2: feel you feel helpless.

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01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:52,200
Speaker 1: I don't I don't have the answer to that. I

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01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 1: don't know.

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01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:55,960
Speaker 2: What we do is we give folks a chance to

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01:55:56,880 --> 01:56:01,080
Speaker 2: let their voices be heard. And I'll say this, Nobody

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01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 2: since this happened on Tuesday has told me what I

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01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:06,800
Speaker 2: can and can't say. Nobody has told me not to

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01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 2: take phone calls. Nobody has told me to tell people

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01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 2: not to talk about Tony. And I think that's a

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01:56:12,040 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 2: credit to the people that I work for here, because

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01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 2: I don't think that's always the case. I know that's

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01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:19,320
Speaker 2: not always the case in terms of what you could do.

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01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:22,880
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, follow Tony and wherever he goes next.

2393
01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:28,520
Speaker 2: Consume his content, be in his audience, support him, and

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01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:32,360
Speaker 2: if that's at a competing medium, then so be it.

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01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:35,120
Speaker 2: When they let him go, they gave him an opportunity

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01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 2: to go work for a competitor. And I would certainly

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01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 2: not get in the way of anybody who said, I

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01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:43,240
Speaker 2: want to go watch and listen to Tony whatever that is,

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01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 2: whatever that looks like. He is gonna do the football game,

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01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:47,880
Speaker 2: So he's going to be on the air with Dan

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01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:52,000
Speaker 2: and myself on Saturday. I can't wait for that. Consume that,

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01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:57,560
Speaker 2: and beyond that, I don't know I have. I have

2403
01:56:57,640 --> 01:57:00,600
Speaker 2: survived for twenty eight years because for the most I

2404
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:06,040
Speaker 2: have spent very little time. Uh worried about or invested

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01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:10,800
Speaker 2: in the decisions made by management. But but if anybody

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01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:13,240
Speaker 2: asked me my opinion and says like we have a

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01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:16,360
Speaker 2: chance to get Tony back, I I'd be the very

2408
01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:18,440
Speaker 2: first one to say, well, how can I help make

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01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:18,960
Speaker 2: that happen?

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01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 9: How about this?

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01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 23: Yeah, how about you me, Austin, Tony, we start our

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01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:25,640
Speaker 23: own radio station.

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01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'm in start our own You got it?

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01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:32,960
Speaker 12: All right?

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01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 1: We got it? Did Tara come to.

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01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:37,080
Speaker 7: Absolutely?

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01:57:37,160 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 1: Okay? All right, Vinny let me know, Okay, I'm on it.

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01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:42,360
Speaker 1: Very good.

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01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:44,400
Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna uh, We're gonna start our own

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01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:51,760
Speaker 2: radio station tomorrow in this time slot will be Bengals

2421
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:54,320
Speaker 2: bet rally and and let's be honest, I think for

2422
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:57,920
Speaker 2: all parties involved, that's probably for the best. Chad is

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01:57:58,360 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 2: in for Austin tomorrow and since from noon to three

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01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:08,320
Speaker 2: we have a show in Westchester on Monday at Twin Peaks.

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01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:11,040
Speaker 1: This is absurd.

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01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be having a few beers at Belterra Park

2427
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:19,560
Speaker 2: tonight for the Thursday night game in the baseball games.

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01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:22,280
Speaker 2: Come on out and have one with me. We will

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01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 2: talk to you on Monday. Have a great week. I

2430
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:29,720
Speaker 2: really do appreciate everybody's words about Tony and the radio

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01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 2: station and the staff here. Thanks to Taram Bland for

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01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 2: producing this show and putting up with as much uncertainty

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01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:40,560
Speaker 2: and chaos as the rest of us. We're back Monday,

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01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:43,360
Speaker 2: have an awesome weekend. Thank you very much for listening,

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01:58:43,360 --> 01:58:45,640
Speaker 2: and I truly do mean that, thank you very much

2436
01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:49,400
Speaker 2: for listening to ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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