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Speaker 1: I wanted to believe that PTI, the venerated Program PTI

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: So one of the headline questions today, just moments ago.

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Speaker 3: Was bigger loss and or you honest?

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Speaker 1: Why does it have to be put in those It's

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Speaker 1: one of those nobody's debating that. That's not a good

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Speaker 1: debate question. Just talk about the losses. Why do you

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Speaker 1: have to turn everything in? Some debates, even I acknowledge,

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Speaker 1: about one guy out of you. No, what's a bigger loss?

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Speaker 1: Who cares? It doesn't advance the story. I was disappointed.

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Speaker 3: But it's okay.

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Speaker 1: I guess the big breaking news on Giannis is the

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Speaker 1: they've got an interesting relationship. Very true. I s wouln't

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Speaker 1: did you see the new Wolves acquisition last night, which

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Speaker 1: He played great. His kid's doing, you know, on his

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Speaker 3: I think it's a lot. But Julius Randall was great

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Speaker 1: Needed him like he has to be good, especially now

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Speaker 1: it was a close game. Here's here's the kicker on

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Speaker 1: this game again. Did you watch Early? No, the first

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Speaker 1: They were actually implementing the strategy defensively that the coaches

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Speaker 1: then the adjustment came and then they looked better defensively

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Speaker 1: It only comes up when we want to explain our

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Speaker 3: You saw it, right, Blackhawks.

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Speaker 1: ways is the statement. Motsco is sixty four years old,

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Speaker 1: Why has it become difficult to say in a story

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Speaker 1: Mark Coyle announced Tuesday, March seventeen. Why are you creating

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Speaker 3: He was dismissed.

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Speaker 1: It happens, it's not illegal, and it doesn't make him

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Speaker 3: It is not that tough.

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Speaker 1: it was very funny. Johnny Hecker is his name. Because

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Speaker 3: Gessler, because people have got to know whether or not

435
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Speaker 3: their presidents are crumb. I can't trust down the dish wall.

436
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 3: I did nothing wrong at the Minneapolis Airport Senator, you know,

437
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Speaker 3: Jack Kennedy.

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Speaker 1: Makssler, and now to help Dan break down all the

439
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Speaker 1: tough questions in politics.

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Speaker 3: It's our own Kessler political walk. I feel like a supermodel,

441
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Speaker 3: except like Times ten.

442
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Speaker 2: It's Channel forced Kessler with Dan Morrero on the fan.

443
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Speaker 1: Why can't I hear the sounders not working?

444
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Speaker 3: You know it's not good? The music was just too loud.

445
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 3: Just Dave Fleck has Uh? Why did I have PJ

446
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Speaker 3: Fleck there?

447
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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you? I don't know what's that from? What's

448
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: that brero with PJ Fleck? When did I have him on?

449
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 3: Oh?

450
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Speaker 1: That's probably from I don't know why that's there. I

451
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: think Brett might have put that there somewhere somehow. That's

452
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Speaker 1: I think either when we had him at the super Bowl,

453
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Speaker 1: you know, eight years ago.

454
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Speaker 3: Or when you join or the only time we also

455
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Speaker 3: had him on.

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Speaker 1: As part of the Dealing Foundation radio time we did

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Speaker 1: during the pandemic.

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Speaker 3: He was one of our guests.

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Speaker 1: Keesser, do you believe that Speaking of PJ Fleck, do

460
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Speaker 1: you think he fears the smiling assassin?

461
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 4: I would say be cautious, but not afraid. That's what

462
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: I would say. I would say, nobody's untouchable, nobody's irreplaceable.

463
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 3: But if there is somebody, it's probably believe him. I

464
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Speaker 3: know he's your favorite ad. All he does is get

465
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Speaker 3: rid of people. How about that? I mean, I'm just saying,

466
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 3: you're you know that that.

467
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Speaker 4: Knife goes in so smoothly it almost feels the smiling

468
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: part feels good. Velvet glove, that's it is what he uses.

469
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 4: So yeah, I've never seen him without a smile, you know.

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Speaker 4: And in my frequent discussions.

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Speaker 3: With I was just gonna say, drop the names you tail?

472
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Speaker 1: Does he how fast does he run in the other

473
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Speaker 1: direction when he sees you coming?

474
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 4: Also, it's it's it's he's very very gracious. I will say,

475
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 4: he's there's a vacant air over my shoulder when he

476
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 4: sees you coming. No, No, when I when I when?

477
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 4: When I capture him? And then make it?

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Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about Mark Coyle For those just

479
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Speaker 1: joining the show. I sort of given him a nickname

480
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Speaker 1: he probably doesn't necessarily appreciate, would because he's been firing people.

481
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: Uh and although today is viewed what are your hockey

482
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Speaker 1: sources say Moscow is claiming that it was mutual. Uh,

483
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: and the university says it was mutual. Sometimes you covered

484
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Speaker 1: enough dismissals to know that sometimes it can be mutual.

485
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: But sometimes that's just a more graceful way to put

486
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Speaker 1: a spin on it. So everybody feels a little bit

487
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Speaker 1: better about a kind of an unseemly situation.

488
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Speaker 3: And that's okay. That that is really okay. It is.

489
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Speaker 4: I don't think anything is mutual when you're at that

490
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Speaker 4: high level and a change needed to be made, if

491
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Speaker 4: I may speak in the passive voice, Yes, they needed

492
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Speaker 4: to make a change there, and I think he did

493
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Speaker 4: what he had to do. So for all of the

494
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Speaker 4: talk we've had over the years about different athletic directors,

495
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,239
Speaker 4: you always were a big Tommy mul guy, weren't you, babe? No, no,

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Speaker 4: Joel Maturi mother material. Oh yeah, well they named it.

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Speaker 4: They didn't name the position after Maturi. They named it

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Speaker 4: after Mo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Is that the new name? He said?

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Speaker 1: And guards you when would that get When did that

501
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Speaker 1: get established?

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Speaker 3: I never heard that before.

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Speaker 1: That was established within the couple of days after mister

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Speaker 1: Mo died. A couple of weeks Ago. I think his family.

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Speaker 1: I think his family had it like an endowed interesting naming. Okay,

506
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: he had a gift I think to the school and

507
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Speaker 1: that was the deal.

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00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 4: So now I can't say anything about absolutely.

509
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: A lot of director. He had to pay for the

510
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: Maturi pavilion, that was just given.

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Speaker 3: That's true. That's true.

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Speaker 1: Now he had to pay for that. He had a

513
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Speaker 1: lot to do with volleyball being good. I mean, that

514
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: was his deal. It makes sense. But that's the difference.

515
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that's why. Yeah.

516
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, so for all of the talk we've

517
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Speaker 4: had about the different athletic directors, I gotta say, uh, Coyle,

518
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 4: when it's time to pull the trigger, he does, he doesn't.

519
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 4: And you know, you got to keep bringing people in

520
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 4: and one of these times we're going to click. I

521
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 4: think Nico is going to be awesome.

522
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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 4: I think Nico is going to be great. And uh

524
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Speaker 4: and of course PJ is only.

525
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Speaker 3: Getting better by the year. I wanted to make sure

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Speaker 3: you were paying.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure you're paying at did you

528
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Speaker 1: were you around for the Paul Gil era? Were you

529
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Speaker 1: already in TV when Paul gil was the A d well?

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Speaker 1: I think when I first got here, wasn't Paul Giel

531
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Speaker 1: the a D in the mid eighties?

532
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Speaker 3: Thank you?

533
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Speaker 4: Well, I remember that. Yeah, but I was Murray warmuth

534
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Speaker 4: Are so yeah, Paul gill was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody was a SID guy. Yeah that's true at

536
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Speaker 3: the you for sure, yeah, for sure at the end.

537
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Speaker 4: So you know, I never ever ever want to wish

538
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 4: people to lose their jobs. No, no, no, and so

539
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 4: but sometimes somebody's got to make a call. And Coyle

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00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 4: did it, and you know, we'll see where it goes

541
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Speaker 4: from here.

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Speaker 1: Why can't I find your stuff?

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00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: Hold on? So, what's the date today? Today is eighteen

544
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,479
Speaker 3: March eighteen. I got three eleven.

545
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Speaker 1: Why can't I find your three eighteen?

546
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: I thought I archived it.

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00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: Well it's okay, I mean, because you you got the

548
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: list in front of you, so you can you can

549
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Speaker 1: lead the way to well maybe you don't I but

550
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Speaker 1: I do want to lead with the understanding of why

551
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Speaker 1: what is the legal what is the legal distinction between

552
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Speaker 1: a kickback and an example of fraud? I this has

553
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: become the later point of debate regarding the latest scandal.

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Speaker 3: This is DHS related, correct our DHS?

555
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: It is more for that Department of Homeland security, and

556
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Speaker 1: this is autism related because.

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Speaker 4: This is the autism program, which you know people, I

558
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 4: guess didn't notice that in twenty eighteen when they set

559
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Speaker 4: up the Autism program of the Department of Human Services

560
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 4: to help children with autism and their families, it costs

561
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Speaker 4: three million dollars and seven years later it's like four billion,

562
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Speaker 4: one hundred million dollars. It's far in a million dollars.

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Speaker 4: Here's the backdrop for all of this.

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Speaker 3: People.

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Speaker 4: There's a new watchdog report which says that the Department

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Speaker 4: of Human Services in Minnesota didn't realize that they would

567
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Speaker 4: be able to even though they had allegations of kickbacks,

568
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Speaker 4: they didn't realize that they would be able to take

569
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Speaker 4: legal action against them. Are you kidding? What's the emoji

570
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 4: for banging your head against the wall. That's what goes here.

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00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 4: So they could not investigate, they said, which the watchdog

572
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 4: group says, no, that's wrong. Also that they could not

573
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 4: suspend payments if there were kickback allegations. Now, this didn't

574
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 4: go back just to twenty eighteen. This has been going

575
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 4: back for years. They got the legal interpretations wrong, so

576
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 4: they haven't been paying attention to fraud.

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Speaker 3: So what is the difference fraud versus kickback.

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00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: Well, here's I'm trying to scroll down to the specific

579
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Speaker 1: place here that I'm confused by. Here, here's what the

580
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: Star Commune story says about the kickback scheme. In a

581
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Speaker 1: case brought in or brought by federal prosecutors, parents received

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Speaker 1: illegal kickbacks as a part of a fraud scheme run

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Speaker 1: by illicit healthcare businesses enrolled in the state's autism program.

584
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: Owners of two autism centers, Smart Therapy in Minneapolis and

585
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: Star Autism in Saint Cloud, really clever names paid off

586
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: parents of children a proof for autism care to keep

587
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: kids enrolled and over bill a state. Some received between

588
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars and one thousand, five hundred dollars. That's

589
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: a lot of money from month per child, a lot

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Speaker 1: of money, according to prosecutors. So I read that example

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Speaker 1: and I say that to me, defines fraud. That's a

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00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: form of fraud. It's a specific form of fraud. But

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Speaker 1: how is that somehow.

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00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: No, that's just a kickback. That's just a kickback.

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00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 4: A kickback is taking a bribe, and that's what they

596
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 4: are doing, taking a bribe five hundred bucks to a

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00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 4: thousand play you.

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00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: Play ball with us, and we'll get you the money,

599
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: and you tell everybody that we're's worse.

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00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 4: Meanwhile taking care of over bill over for the services

601
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Speaker 4: that we're providing you.

602
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Speaker 3: So fraud is stealing.

603
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 4: They're committing fraud, stealing directly from the state of Minnesota.

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00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 3: But the other people are it's a.

605
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 4: Kickback because they're taking a bribe to allow the fraud

606
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Speaker 4: to continue. So you know, when you order a pepperoni pizza,

607
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Speaker 4: I know you did this when you were at university.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, unlike Larry Joe Bird, I wasn't intimidated by the

609
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: size of it. I went and despite the fact that

610
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: I was bullied. We all were bullied the first year

611
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: Wilkie Quad. But I I life, come, you're still being bullied, you.

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00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: Know by you?

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00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean, didn't Don Shelby used to bully you a

614
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: Channel four That's what I thought.

615
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: I mean the story someday will be told your buddies

616
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 4: would sell you a pizza, yes, and charge you a

617
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 4: red stick there, yes, there it is, it is and.

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Speaker 3: Then that's that's the fraud.

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Speaker 1: But in Chicago, that's that's called commerce. That's just that's

620
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Speaker 1: just doing business. That's the price of doing that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so a kickback would be, Hey, give me

622
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: ten bucks and I'll make sure your pizza is delivered free.

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Speaker 4: So that is going on still in the state of Minnesota,

624
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Speaker 4: and the watchdog report from the Office of Legislative Auditor

625
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Speaker 4: is shocking.

626
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Speaker 3: Again. Is this ever going to end? You know it will?

627
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 4: I have a feeling, and I've told you this for

628
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 4: a long time. I was doing stories on fraud in

629
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Speaker 4: Minnesota the human services programs ten fifteen years ago, and

630
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 4: nobody paid attention.

631
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Speaker 3: And I will say.

632
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: You feel like you feel a little neglected and little

633
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: like vindicated Dan, indicated, vindicated Dan.

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Speaker 3: No one would pay attention to it.

635
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 4: And I will say that the Democrats were not as

636
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 4: interested in looking into this stuff, particularly if there were

637
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 4: a Democratic governor.

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00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 3: So this has been going on a long time.

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00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 4: I think the only way and Governor Wallas is doing

640
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 4: the right thing right now, trying to figure out new

641
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 4: ways to slow it down and stop it. I really

642
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 4: think they're going to have to do two things. They're

643
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 4: going to have to use AI artificial intelligence because they

644
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 4: might be able to ferret this stuff out. And number two,

645
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 4: you've got to update the computers and the computer systems

646
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 4: in the state of Minnesota making this up. But back

647
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 4: in the day when these computer systems went in in

648
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 4: the seventies and eighties, they have not really updated them.

649
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 4: And the people who maintained them have now retired thirty

650
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 4: years later, and there's nobody to fix computers.

651
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 3: I don't know how they're going to fix it, but

652
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to move on it quick.

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Speaker 1: Alan and Aften, we please ask special K who seems

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Speaker 1: to be says sometimes their heads have to roll and

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Speaker 1: praising the current ad he's a great being, a great

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Speaker 1: athletic director for doing what he has to do. Why

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Speaker 1: hasn't anyone been Why hasn't anyone been dismissed in this

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Speaker 1: administration over the fraud? You hear this constantly, isn't didn't

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Speaker 1: somebody need to go somewhere along the food chain?

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Speaker 3: In the food chain? Two things about that.

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Speaker 1: The answer to the questions from Alan and Afton, Ali speak.

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Speaker 4: Director one right, and I think people should have been fired.

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Speaker 4: What happens in politics, and I think what has happened

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Speaker 4: in the Walts administration for the last eight years is

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Speaker 4: that people quietly resign, they're told to leave, and by

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Speaker 4: mutual agreement, they leave. There is no dramatic you're fired.

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Speaker 4: There isn't any of that, And I think perhaps to

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Speaker 4: regain confidence for the state of Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: I think maybe somebody should be fired.

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Speaker 4: I think there are questions about what education commissioners, why

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Speaker 4: suddenly they're gone. Human services that very didn't see me

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Speaker 4: very transparent. It's absolutely not what you have tended to

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Speaker 4: believe in covering this stuff. Transparency I do. I think

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Speaker 4: that if you're going to it's tough. It's tough. But

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Speaker 4: if you're going to fire somebody, you're going to have

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Speaker 4: to do it. But the former Legislative auditor watchdog group

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Speaker 4: Jim Nobles says that he was told directly by top

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Speaker 4: Democrats in Little God Bless Her Rest in Peace, Melissa Hornban.

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Speaker 4: He says that she told them they weren't going to

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Speaker 4: go further with it. This is what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Dan Minnesota asks, was Cassie around when A. D. Marsh

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Speaker 1: Ryman and John Mariucci mutually agreed to part ways.

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Speaker 4: Well, Mary Ucci was playing hockey. He was playing when

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Speaker 4: I was say, that's true. That's a good one, very

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Speaker 4: good point.

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Speaker 3: That's that's a good one. I thought that was well played.

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Speaker 3: It is all right, let's get to.

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Speaker 4: So. Yeah, so this fraud stuff, you know, we we

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Speaker 4: should just have a sounder for that, because every we should.

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Speaker 1: Have a fraudt downder. We're going to have a T shirt.

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Speaker 1: But we didn't for the fair maybe well it's by

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Speaker 1: the way, it still might be current this coming year.

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Speaker 3: Or did we thought we thought about it. We didn't.

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Speaker 3: We think about some under pressure stuff.

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Speaker 1: We're under pressure to not use that by the Walls administration.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you take your orders. We bowed to. That's

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Speaker 3: what I hear.

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Speaker 1: We curled up. I get well, I'm Dantifa. It's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, here's and your comrade Kessler.

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Speaker 3: I got my script right here.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of scripts, is this name real? By the way,

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Speaker 1: is the name Mark Wayne Mullen a real name? Mark

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Speaker 1: Wayne Mullen? Is it a real name?

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Speaker 3: And who is it?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's a real name.

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Speaker 4: And Mark Wayne is one capital M, M A R K,

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Speaker 4: small W A Y n E.

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Speaker 3: Mark Wayne Mullen. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The the damomology. I mean, is that a common term

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Speaker 1: in the common name in the South.

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Speaker 3: Are people naming their kids because he's from He's from Oklahoma, Oklahoma.

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Speaker 4: And so h he Yeah, Mark Wayne Mullen, I thought

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Speaker 4: there was going to be a fight.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 1: It got ugly today, fireworks ugly this morning. Yes, he

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Speaker 1: was going to get in a fight.

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Speaker 3: And what's the occasion.

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Speaker 4: What was Mark Wayne Mullen is the guy who is

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Speaker 4: nominated to replace Christine Nome.

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Speaker 3: Christine Nome who.

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Speaker 4: Sent all the ice agents who occupy Minneapolis resulting in chaos, violence,

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Speaker 4: and death here in Minneapol in that order, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Two million and also spent was a two point two

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Speaker 1: million on that ad campaign on two.

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Speaker 4: Hundred I would call it two hundred and twenty mil.

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Speaker 4: I say two point two, two hundred and twenty million. Well,

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Speaker 4: here's the deal.

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Speaker 3: She was riding a horse in the commercial, wasn't she she?

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Speaker 3: And she looked great.

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Speaker 4: I mean the costume with the horse and the exactly

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Speaker 4: come on, no, I mean, well, that's the point I'm

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Speaker 4: going to make is that Mark Wayne Mullen didn't wear

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Speaker 4: a costume coming to the hearing today for the replacer

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Speaker 4: for the Secretary of Homeland Security. And he had his

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Speaker 4: confirmation hearing today and it was very, very interesting because

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Speaker 4: the fireworks began almost immediately because fellow Republican Rand Paul,

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Speaker 4: who many of our longtime listeners will remember, got the

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Speaker 4: hell beat out of him about six seven years ago

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Speaker 4: that neighbor.

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Speaker 3: By a neighbor just kicked the you know what.

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Speaker 1: He was a little guy and he's not much taller

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Speaker 1: than Nyler Murray.

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Speaker 3: I do I'm just Aaron Culkin.

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Speaker 4: A snuck up behind him, kicked and broke six ribs,

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Speaker 4: gave him a concussion.

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Speaker 3: He was terrible.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Mark Wayne Mullan said, do you know what.

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Speaker 4: I don't condone it, but I understand it.

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Speaker 3: That's what he said. He's a snake.

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Speaker 4: And he refused to he refused to apologize for it.

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Speaker 3: And these are fellow Republicans. So that happened this morning.

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Speaker 4: That's what he said at the time, and then today

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Speaker 4: they asked him about and he said, he.

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Speaker 3: Said, will you apologize? Will you apologize?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm not going to apologize, but I do understand it.

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Speaker 4: You know, it was crazy.

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Speaker 1: He did apologize for what he said about Alex pretty correct,

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Speaker 1: just stopped short.

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Speaker 4: However, that was I think very significant because if there's

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Speaker 4: going to be a difference between the chaos of Minneapolis

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Speaker 4: and ice and Christinome. They asked him if about his

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Speaker 4: comments because what he said about Alex Pretty after he

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Speaker 4: was killed by ice agents here, shot six times in

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Speaker 4: the back.

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Speaker 3: Here's what Mullen said.

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Speaker 4: He said, Unfortunately, he calls Pretty a deranged individual who

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Speaker 4: came in to cause max damage with a loaded pistol

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Speaker 4: that was completely loaded, was shot and killed. How much

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Speaker 4: more does this have to go on before democrats take

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Speaker 4: responsibility blaming democrats blaming Pretty. You know, it was a terrible,

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Speaker 4: terrible day for everybody, most of all the Pretty family.

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Speaker 3: So today, he said, Mullen says.

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Speaker 4: He regrets and retracts those comments, but he did not apologize.

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Speaker 4: Asked him if he would apologize, and he said no.

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Speaker 4: He said he's going to wait for the investigation and

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Speaker 4: to be completed. Now, frankly, I'm not confident in any investigation.

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Speaker 4: I'm not even sure there's an investigation going on into

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Speaker 4: pretties real you could validly call it a murder by

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Speaker 4: by ice agents.

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Speaker 3: So you know, so there there was that.

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Speaker 4: He did come in, not as hot as as Christy Nolm,

783
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Speaker 4: where you know, she.

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Speaker 3: Was all over the place.

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00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 4: It was warm and fuzzy, and and was somebody saying

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Speaker 4: he's going to look at a lot of the stuff

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Speaker 4: they want ice agents the Democrats in particular, don't wear masks,

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Speaker 4: don't lead with your guns, don't beat the hell out

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Speaker 4: of people, don't run into their houses if you don't

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Speaker 4: have a warrant to do it.

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Speaker 3: So all of this is what he.

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Speaker 4: Said, He's going to agree, He's going to take a

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Speaker 4: look at it. He'd the temperature the only thing.

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Speaker 1: Sort of like in Tom Holman like fashion, very.

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Speaker 3: Much so, very much so.

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Speaker 4: So he is a kind of an over the top

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Speaker 4: MMI crazy ass Oklahoma. But he did really lower the

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Speaker 4: temperature today, I think, But you can't be sure until

799
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Speaker 4: we see exactly what he Besides he's going to do,

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Speaker 4: will he get approved they generate is an excellent question

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Speaker 4: because Rand Paul, you know, with the six broken rims,

802
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 4: he's not going to vote for him. No, he's the

803
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 4: chairman of the committee. But so they need a Democratic vote.

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Speaker 4: Who is on the committee that might vote for him?

805
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 4: A Democrat, your guy John Fetterman Sylvania. So why John

806
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Speaker 4: Fetterman doesn't become a Republican after this?

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Speaker 3: I mean, if they approve.

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Speaker 4: This guy out of all so, Rand Paul still has

809
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Speaker 4: a couple of tricks up his sleeve. He may try

810
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Speaker 4: to hold the nomination not let anybody vote on it.

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Speaker 4: But I think people are so still afraid of Donald Trump,

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Speaker 4: afraid of incurring his wrath crossing him, that I do

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00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 4: think he'll be confirmed eventually.

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Speaker 3: This was all I missed. This was this morning. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was awesome.

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Speaker 1: She and n cover it.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a lot of people. Do you ever watch

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Speaker 3: she span anymore? All the time you do a big season,

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Speaker 3: you do not?

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Speaker 1: I do, don't don't try all.

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Speaker 4: All of the hearings with our guy Tim Walls and

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Speaker 4: Keith Ellison.

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Speaker 3: Watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a big c SPAN guy. You know, is

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Speaker 1: Brian Lamb still alive? The guy who's kind of still alive?

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Speaker 3: He has gone, Yeah, he is now left. He's emeritus.

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Speaker 1: He's okay, he's emeritus guy.

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Speaker 4: But one of the things that's kind of phones liked

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Speaker 4: him have a few shots, you know, during the day

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Speaker 4: of whiskey.

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Speaker 3: And then you watch the coll In shows. They they

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Speaker 3: on SPAN.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a Democrat Republican and wait to see who gets.

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Speaker 1: Didn't they in the old days they literally had a

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Speaker 1: different phone number.

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Speaker 3: They did right when you were a Republican or a Democrat.

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Speaker 3: And Independence.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Independence had their own phone number

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Speaker 1: or not. And then the Whig Party had their own

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Speaker 1: number two. So everybody, Yeah, so you watched these men,

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Speaker 1: But then.

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Speaker 3: You have the the.

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Speaker 4: Tulsi Gabberton and Cash Betel hearing today too.

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Speaker 3: Where did you tell President Trump.

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Speaker 4: That that the Iran would fight back if you attack them?

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Speaker 3: That kind of thing. I will not discuss what I've said.

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Speaker 1: To the President, John Bolton Wall Street Journal today. If

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Speaker 1: the President was not fully resolved to remove the ittol as,

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Speaker 1: he should never have initiated so ambitious a military effort.

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Speaker 1: Strikes on military targets alone will not topple the regime,

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Speaker 1: and staid they must debilitate the institutions of state power,

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Speaker 1: notably that the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and the Bazi

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Speaker 1: Basij Militia. I don't have to press that b A

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Speaker 1: s I J. That's according to Bolton. Bolton is no

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Speaker 1: a friend of the the Iran run.

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Speaker 3: He supports the military.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Is that the issue if you're gonna do it, if

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Speaker 1: you really, if the objective is really to remove the iatolas,

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Speaker 1: can you change Yeah, using the route that we're using here,

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Speaker 1: Probably not.

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Speaker 4: It's very very difficult, maybe too late. It is becoming

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Speaker 4: increasingly clear that President Trump did not anticipate the unintended consequences.

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Speaker 4: When you kick a hornet's nest, it's the hornets who

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Speaker 4: decide when it's over right, and that's what's happening here.

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Speaker 4: Trump started a war, but there are three places, three

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Speaker 4: other countries that will decide how the war ends. It's

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Speaker 4: not the United States, it's Iran, and it's Israel. So

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Speaker 4: you're going to have to figure out probably a negotiated settlement,

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Speaker 4: figure out all of this kind of stuff. President Trump

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Speaker 4: is still bellicos and belligerent and threatening mass destruction of everybody.

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Speaker 4: But you're not going to be able to change the

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Speaker 4: Iranian culture and society unless you remove this group that's there,

874
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 4: put in a new group that is at least neutral

875
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 4: to the United States, and begin again. And they don't

876
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 4: seem to be in right now our country in any

877
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 4: mood to do that.

878
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: All right, Let's make it SAPA our break.

879
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: A couple other things to get into with Kessler, keep

880
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: the text coming as well. We're out at six point

881
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: thirty tonight, not six fifteen, and then tomorrow six fifteen,

882
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: leading into more Minnesota wild hockey.

883
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 3: Right here in the fan.

884
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 5: This is the greatest honor of my life to be

885
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 5: able to report to people in Minnesota. Stop at my people,

886
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 5: what's happening in their state? What kind of legacy?

887
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: What are you doing? You did the best job? I mean, yeah, there.

888
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: We were just talking about TV and sincerity and that's

889
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: one of my favorites.

890
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 3: So I thought i'd bumped back. Why are you thinking

891
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: that I was insincere? What kind of legacy is the

892
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 3: nature business? I just did the best.

893
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 4: Job I could well well guards he let me ask

894
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 4: you this, Yeah, what kind of legacy will you leave?

895
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 3: I just tried to do the best job I could.

896
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: Fifty in another fifty nine years when he has sixty

897
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: straight years?

898
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: Is the think about?

899
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: Is of goal of the high school girls girls basketball?

900
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: You guys almost nailed it between the two of you.

901
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: He really two season a lot, two Hall of famers

902
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: right there?

903
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: Wasn't he great?

904
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: He was outstanding?

905
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 3: Just really great. These are back to back texts that

906
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 3: have come in. OK, thank you as.

907
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 1: Always for having Kessler on informative real Whether one agrees

908
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: or not, we need that in this world we're in.

909
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: That's right after just more dumbcrat talk from Moron Kessler,

910
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: not doumbocrat, but dumbkrat.

911
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: Uh seven six three? Guy ripped you?

912
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 4: Okay, Guy, I want to edit that. I think dumbkrat

913
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 4: is really you can do much.

914
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 3: Better than that. Yeah, it's that very I think.

915
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: No, I think dumbo crat democrat is the thing. That's

916
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: what mister fun used to use much. I have one

917
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: item another item that in this is not on your list.

918
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: I want to well, no, but it's better this way.

919
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 3: I see.

920
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about gambling, by the way. I

921
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: think Wisconsin a bill just passed one of their chambers

922
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: for online sports betting. I don't know if it needs

923
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: to like if if there's still a couple of steps yet.

924
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: But I read that this morning or I heard it somewhere,

925
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: and it sounds like like the fan duels of the

926
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: world are out of it. These are I think, where

927
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: you're doing betting related to tribal casinos. I think so.

928
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: I don't know all the details. We still don't have

929
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: it here, right, it's still not on the front burner here, right,

930
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: we do not.

931
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 4: And I will say I don't know the chances this year,

932
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 4: but it's probably fifty to fifty again because of just

933
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 4: the best close. Yeah, the closeness how close this legislature is.

934
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 4: But I think nationally the tide may be turning a

935
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 4: little bit about against states doing this.

936
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 3: Well, that's an interesting point.

937
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: And the other here's where I thought you were going

938
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: that it may become moot what happens in other states

939
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: because of something called and this is where I need help.

940
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 1: The prediction markets calshi, yes, sir, polymarket? What the hell

941
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: are they? How do they distinguish? How do they differentiate

942
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: it from what we're used to when we talk about

943
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: sports betting? Is this the stuff where you're like, you

944
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: bet on the data, war is going to start or

945
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: who's going to die?

946
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 3: You can bet all that kind of stuff. You can

947
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 3: bet on almost everything.

948
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: And by the way, I think you can do that

949
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: right now in Minnesota. I don't think so. That's why

950
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: I'm also confused. Why is that something we can do

951
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 1: here without any kind of legislation or in the sports

952
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: betting we can't.

953
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 3: Because it's like trading stock. Okay, that's what this is.

954
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 4: So you can trade on stock, yes or no, on

955
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,479
Speaker 4: the outcomes of real world events. And there's a big

956
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 4: problem coming I think with it. I do believe that

957
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 4: these prediction markets are generally pretty accurate. They are very

958
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 4: accurate about what's going to happen. When we see polling,

959
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 4: for example, in politics that so and so is going

960
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 4: to win.

961
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 3: So and say.

962
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: Predicted Trump was going to win in twenty twenty.

963
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 4: Four, so early these Yes, so you can predict us,

964
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 4: but you can also predict will not just the winner

965
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,959
Speaker 4: of the World Baseball Classic, but you could predict when

966
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 4: the United States will go to war with Iran.

967
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 3: You can bet on stuff like that, and they're generally accurate.

968
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,959
Speaker 4: What I see coming on the horizon, which may be

969
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 4: very very problematic, is that there's no real way to

970
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 4: prevent insider trading, is my understanding.

971
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 3: So that if you know, one of the things that's happening.

972
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 4: With Mark Wayne Mullen, who we just talked about, the

973
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 4: nominated secretary for Department of Homeland Security, one of the

974
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 4: things they are going after him about is that he

975
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 4: was making stock trades based on inside information. So you

976
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 4: got that going and with Calse, are there members of

977
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 4: the Trump administration who know in advance that President Trump

978
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 4: is going to slap a one hundred percent tariff on

979
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 4: Switzerland because he's pissed off at the President Cuba. There

980
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 4: it is again right there, So that I think is

981
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,959
Speaker 4: very active. I think they're extremely accurate, and I find

982
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 4: them fascinating.

983
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: Prediction markets proponents say these markets are different from traditional

984
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: gambling because they double as valuable sources of information that

985
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 1: can help governments, businesses, and ordinary citizens makes more decisions.

986
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: On the other hand, critics counter that platforms like Calshi

987
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: and polymarket are just another way to builk gambling addicted

988
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: Americans and that they are rife with to use your term,

989
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 1: insider trading.

990
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: The day before the US went to war.

991
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: With Iran, more than one hundred and fifty accounts placed

992
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: a total of eight hundred and fifty five thousand dollars

993
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: in bets correctly predicting an American strike over the next

994
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. There's a guy named Logan Sutteth, twenty

995
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: five years old, claims he quit his job as a

996
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: financial risk analyst to become a full time gambler on

997
00:53:54,880 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: Calshi and Polymarket. He tells NPR that he made one

998
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars in one month, twenty five thousand dollars

999
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 1: more than he used to make in a year.

1000
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 3: A time.

1001
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 1: A bet on Time Magazine's Person of the Year alone

1002
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: earned him forty thousand, two hundred and thirty six dollars.

1003
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 4: That's really amazing, And I'm not saying these are bad.

1004
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 4: I think they're very, very very interesting. You can buy

1005
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 4: these contracts, is what we understand. The Federal Reserve Board

1006
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 4: today decided not to change the rates. There were a

1007
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 4: lot of people betting on that. How much are you

1008
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 4: going to bet? You can bet from a penny to

1009
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 4: a dollar or something like that. You can bet on

1010
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 4: the weather, you can bet on elections, and you can bet, unfortunately,

1011
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 4: on when you're going to war, if somebody.

1012
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: Inside when somebody's going to die, right when somebody's.

1013
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 4: Going to die, if somebody inside the Trump administration is

1014
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 4: doing this?

1015
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 3: Do we know that?

1016
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 4: Do we know the people who are suddenly twelve hours

1017
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 4: before something happens. You've got literally hundreds of thousands of

1018
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 4: dollars being bet on an event and we don't know

1019
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 4: who it is. And so I think it's kind of

1020
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 4: something we really need to watch.

1021
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just beginning to read about it, and it's

1022
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: fascinating because it's a whole and as I understand it,

1023
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, in fact this piece. How are they regulated lightly?

1024
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 1: Is their response? Prediction markets are overseen by the Federal

1025
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: Commodity Futures Trading Commission, and the Trump administration has taken

1026
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: as soft touch with the industry. This may have something

1027
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: to do with that President Trump's son, Donald Trump Junior,

1028
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: has invested in poly Market through his venture capital firm

1029
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 1: and is an advisor to Calshi.

1030
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 3: So how much did the Trump's son make on this stuff?

1031
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 3: We probly a couple of billion. Trump is not going

1032
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 3: to be president forever? You sure? Well, I'm not sure

1033
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 3: now that I said that, Martin Wayne Mullen.

1034
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 4: Could send ice agents to every polling place in America

1035
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 4: and we'll find.

1036
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 3: So it happens, He's not going to be president forever.

1037
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 4: Leave. So how is this all going to unravel? If

1038
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 4: there is fraud, bribery things going on?

1039
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not going to say bribery, right,

1040
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 3: I'm just going to say corruption.

1041
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 4: I shouldn't have said briber, but corruption if they are

1042
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 4: making money off their father's name. As your guy, Hunter

1043
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 4: Biden did off Hiss and they had congressional hearings.

1044
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: Several states have sued or sent seasoned assist letters to

1045
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: prediction markets over sports gambling, which is banned in twenty

1046
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 1: states and where it is allowed is typically legal only

1047
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: for over twenty one states, say that markets are skirting

1048
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: those rules as well as the tax obligations of sport books.

1049
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: So that's going to be a whole another chapter to

1050
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: follows this as it seemingly gets bigger and bigger. Is

1051
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: this and it will and how well will be regulated?

1052
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: Is that how people like in the state of Minnesota

1053
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,919
Speaker 1: get around it? About My prediction is we are never

1054
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: going to have sports gambling here.

1055
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 3: You can bet on that on call SHP.

1056
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah you probably can'ly can.

1057
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to happen. Yeah, I think

1058
00:56:58,600 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 3: the tide is turning.

1059
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 4: I'm never going to say never, but it's the odd

1060
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 4: odds are against it.

1061
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 3: You like you if I may. I liked that. He

1062
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 3: really liked that. I smiled at myself. Will you be

1063
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 3: going to Gold and.

1064
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: Go for women's basketball tournament action Friday night at the Barn?

1065
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 3: It's a great opportunity for you. Got nothing else to do.

1066
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 4: I've got five o'clock is here now than when I

1067
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 4: was working.

1068
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 3: That's what you keep saying.

1069
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 4: I really would I would love to. You're not going

1070
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 4: I'll be I really want to say, I am.

1071
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 3: You'll beware. You can't even figure it out. No, I

1072
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 3: know you can't even come up. I know where I'm

1073
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 3: going to be. I know where I'm going to be,

1074
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 3: out of town.

1075
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 4: I am and I and I don't want to the

1076
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 4: keys and I don't want to lie about it.

1077
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 3: You know, how are the Florida Keys? I liked them

1078
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 3: a lot. I've never been did you? Was that your first?

1079
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 3: Love them? Okay? But I liked it a lot too much?

1080
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I thought it was too touristy, although

1081
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 4: you know all of the college kids were pouring in

1082
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 4: when I was there. But the Ernest Hemingway House and

1083
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 4: your story and I walked his steps from bar to

1084
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 4: bar to bar. It was freaking awesome. So there, there's

1085
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 4: a lot to like with my dolphin watching.

1086
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: And you probably prefer a little more privacy. You're saying

1087
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: it was maybe a little too tourist not at all,

1088
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: but I says the tourist that it was too tourists

1089
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: while you were there.

1090
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 3: No, I'm just talking. You know I was young once

1091
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Speaker 3: and strong. You're still strong, you know.

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Speaker 4: I am what I'm saying is that I used to

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00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 4: I used to roll with the spring break, you know,

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Speaker 4: I used to do all that.

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Speaker 3: But I loved Key West.

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Speaker 4: We did dolphin watching, you know, we went to all

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Speaker 4: the best restaurants.

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Speaker 3: It was awesome, it was good. It was very nice.

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Speaker 1: And the Friday, thank you for people going to the

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Speaker 1: Gopher game, because you'll be out of town again.

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Speaker 3: I will. All I do is travel.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, so you're not that busy.

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00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: You're busier, but with things that have nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with work, is what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 3: I'll make you a deal.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'll sit next to you.

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Speaker 3: You go to the game, and I'll be right next

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Speaker 3: to you. I can't I'm on the air doing a show.

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Speaker 3: You guys can both go Sunday.

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Speaker 1: If they win, I actually might want to try to

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Speaker 1: get Giovanzi are going to win.

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Speaker 3: If they win, they are going to win. Well, they're

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00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 3: heavily favored. Yeah, but Trap's incredible. We don't like that.

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Speaker 3: That's where we.

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00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: Get cocky, and then before you know it, we're sitting there,

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Speaker 1: you know, drowning in our tears.

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Speaker 3: I'm just going to stay home and listen to Guardzi.

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Speaker 4: He's so good at this, he's so good at the

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Speaker 4: play by play?

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Speaker 3: How long until he gets a statute?

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Speaker 4: Think?

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Speaker 1: Just the TV insincerity and full it's just it's amazing,

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Speaker 1: how it's amazing, how natural it is.

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Speaker 3: Can I say something that's real and natural we love it?

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Speaker 3: It'd be a first.

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Speaker 4: And and I feel that way about you. I care

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Speaker 4: about you, and I think you're great.

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Speaker 3: I love you too, Pat.

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Speaker 1: Last item from Nate, who says I'm an avid Calshi user.

1131
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: I use it primarily for sports, but dabble in other areas.

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00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: I made about four grand on Kyler to the Vikings.

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01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: That's incredible, Like it's full of potential for fraud, but

1134
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: I have decided to accept the risk.

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Speaker 3: That's very honest on the part of that is amazing money.

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01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 3: So that's a sports best so you but but it's

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01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 3: it's it's but it's not.

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01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well right, it's an event, an event.

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Speaker 4: You're right, And and Nate is smart enough to say,

1140
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 4: you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna put some money

1141
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 4: down on this.

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Speaker 1: Sixty five to one guy, Key West is garbage. Largo

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Speaker 1: and Marathon are magnificent.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm going to go there next.

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Speaker 1: It's just his opinion. Yeah, thank you, thanks for seeing.

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Speaker 1: We'll see again maybe in a week or two. Yeah,

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01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: when I get Trent trips, when I get bat Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: I have to come back during the week. Will you

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01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: bring back some pukah shells for you next time? I

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01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: will for us, I will make pukash shell It's thank

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Speaker 1: you you are Kessler, five, six, and ten on Channel four.

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Speaker 3: Will wrap it up now.

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Speaker 1: Show Rap is presented by American Pressure commercial grade pressure

1154
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,479
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Speaker 3: It's the bumper to bumper Show Rap.

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Speaker 1: What are we got tonight on the fan, well, we

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01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: have as usual Fan on Demand and then on the

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Speaker 1: flagship we've got Wolve's Hoop Action. Second night of the

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Speaker 1: back to Backer Tonight it's the Utah Jazz and tonight

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01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: we are not only without Anthony Edwards, were also without

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Speaker 1: nas Red. They're both out for this game. Utah, we

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01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: assume is still trying to lose, although occasionally they win.

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Speaker 3: Anyway. Eight I think I saw, so we'll see how

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Speaker 3: it goes tonight. I mean the.

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Speaker 1: Beauty of winning last night, which was a good win

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01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: given the circumstances and given Edwards was out, is well

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01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: I should I'm phrasing this wrong.

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Speaker 3: The devastation that would come with.

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Speaker 1: Even after having won last night would be if we

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Speaker 1: blow it by turning around and losing to Utah, right,

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01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: that would kind of I guess it doesn't totally nullify

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01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: it because it's against Phoenix, but you've created the same distance.

1173
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: But you got The idea is you won the tougher

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01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: of the two, fair and square. After a bad start,

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01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: you regroup nicely, You played better, You had good balance

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01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: on offense, even though obviously Julius Randall was instrumental. Offensively,

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01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: you had other players step up and score the ball.

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Speaker 3: I think did move pretty well.

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Speaker 1: And then defensively you finally came around a little bit

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01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: as as well. So you create the space between you

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Speaker 1: and Phoenix right between six and seven. That's important. Now

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Speaker 1: go ahead, and and and and realize the full potential

1183
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Speaker 1: of opening that door by not spitting up the bit

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Speaker 1: this evening against Utah, even though now you're down two players.

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01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: My assumption is Utah is always down six players, right,

1186
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: and they don't want to play anybody, like you said,

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01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: Like you've talked about, the schedule gets a little trickier

1188
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: at times, and every game it's you don't have to

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Speaker 1: just stay in the six spot.

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Speaker 3: You were in the three spot a week and a

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01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 3: half ago. You can move up because there are other

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01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 3: teams kind of meandering as well, so be aggressive.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow is a Thursday, so that means doctor Dan's inbox

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01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: will be reopened, and we expect to visit with Russo Radio.

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01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: We'll have to, I think, explore again with him, or

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01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: maybe even before he joins Your guy. Is it Gary Bettman,

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01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: the NHL commissioner, doubling and tripling down on the current

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01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: playoff format and it's just stupid. I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: talk about his logic, which makes no sense to me whatsoever.

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01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: But he's probably getting defensive about all the criticism. He's

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01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: turning it into a thing about well, you're just talking

1202
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Speaker 1: about one division this year.

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Speaker 3: It changes year to year.

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01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: And he's missing the overall that has nothing to do

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01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: with this particular division that the while they're in this year.

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Speaker 1: So we'll explore that in a little bit more depth

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01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: on tomorrow's broadcast and get to many other good things.

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Speaker 1: Keith O'Brien, great writer of a new Larry Bird book,

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01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: joined at three p thirty. Kevin Kernan on International Baseball,

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01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 1: he was hot World Baseball Classic, and he was on

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Speaker 1: Far and of course Pat Kessler, Comrade Kessler at five

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Speaker 1: point thirty. All podcastable, downloadable later. You missed it the

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Speaker 1: first time around, we will talk.

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Speaker 3: To you at three o'clock. A lot of things that

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01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 3: are easily correctable,