1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: I've always been an advocate of a more ballroom. 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: I've been saying that for years. 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 3: I've been pro ballroom my entire life. Good to know 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 3: he actually had more to say. That's unfair of me 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 3: to do. He didn't want taxpayers to have to support 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 3: more ballroom. But taxpayers aren't paying for any of this ballroom, 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: so you don't have to worry about it. Our two 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: on a Freedom Friday twin Cities News Talk AM eleven 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: thirty and one three five FM. 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 4: My name is John Justice, and the master control both. 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 4: We have Sam. 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 3: He's gonna go get grace keeping from American Experiment. She'll 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: be joining us in a moment. The Representative Max Rymer 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: is in studio today for a Freedom Friday. 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 4: Good morning. 16 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 3: I didn't talk about this yesterday, and I'm glad I didn't, 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 3: but it is kind of funny now. I was supposed 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 3: to be on Laura Ingram last night and uh yeah, 19 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: so they'd reached out the day before, and I was 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 3: supposed to be on last night, and then when I 21 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: left yesterday is the FBI the dual indictments broke of 22 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: the illegal poker games taking place by the NBA situation. 23 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 3: Remember the numerous mafias that I didn't even know existed anymore, 24 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: but apparently they do. And then the NBA situation, I 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I'm not going to be on Lord tonight. 26 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's talk about there's too much. 27 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: There's too much news going on, too much news going 28 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: on right now. So Representative Tom Emmer will be joining 29 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 3: us shortly here on Twin Cities News Talk. I want 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: to revisit this from Wednesday. This week, I have a 31 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: piece here from Bill Glone Center, the American Experiment, and 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: I want to go a little bit, a little bit 33 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: deeper on this. In a new video, Minnesota Governor Tim 34 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: Walls carries the National Democrats message about health insurance subsidies 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: home to Minnesotan's while playing indoor miniature golf. 36 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: Here's a bit of that audio. 37 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 5: You might receive notice that your healthcare costs are increasing 38 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 5: for next year here in Minnesota, healthcare premiums will. 39 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 6: Skyrocket fifty four percent for eighty nine thousand Minnesota and 40 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 6: oversea that two thousand Minnesotas are expected to drop coverage 41 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 6: in addition to those losing coverage over Medicaid. At a 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 6: time when the cost of everything's going up, like a 43 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 6: can of soup. Republicans in Washington are making even harder 44 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 6: for folks. 45 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: We're wondering why the federal government shut down. Just bear 46 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 4: with me. 47 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: To get the. 48 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 6: Government funded and opened up, Republicans need to come to 49 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 6: the table, set down with Democrats to protect America's healthcare. 50 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: So we'll just stop it here. By the way, here's 51 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: another quick clip. Leftists of MN posted this. This was 52 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 3: Governor Tim Walls from a couple of years ago, complaining 53 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 3: about how he was supposed to tow the party line 54 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 3: relating to the ACA, but he couldn't because he knew 55 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 3: it was damaging his constituency. 56 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's why the message, and we were talking about 57 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 7: the DNC. The DNC wanted the message to me, the 58 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 7: ACA is working fine, and don't talk about the words. 59 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 7: I said, I can't do that because it's failing my 60 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 7: constituents in a lot of ways. 61 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: So I hear you allowed to clear. 62 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 3: As Bill Glant says, Walls repeats the dead wrong talking 63 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: point that all the advanced premium credits are going away. 64 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 4: It's simply not true. 65 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 3: The advanced premium tax credits under the ACA that subsidized 66 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: monthly insurance premiums through marketplace exchanges. They were enhanced in 67 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty one American Rescue Plan acted and extended 68 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: through twenty twenty five by the twenty twenty two Inflation 69 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: Reduction Act. Those were temporary Pandemic era infusion of dollars 70 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: made by those credits. They were more generous by lowering 71 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: the required income based premium percentages and eliminating the four 72 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: hundred percent federal poverty line. And these were votes that 73 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: even Walls himself took. You have Amy Klobischer out there. 74 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: She's looking for sympathy. I'm looking at a piece here 75 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: fling from John Field. She's looking for sympathy for a 76 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: retired sixty one year old with a six figure income 77 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: who essentially complains that they may not be able to 78 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: travel as much, they'll have to take less vacations if 79 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: the temporary taxpayer subsidies were to expire. 80 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 8: And in that very tweet, Amy Klobushar calls out not 81 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 8: just retirees. She uses this example of early retirees who 82 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 8: are traveling the world so ridiculous. 83 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 4: Have lost the plot. 84 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, early retirees like Bill and Shelley will see their 85 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: health insurance premiums increase if the Congressional Republicans refuse to 86 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 3: extend the enhanced A tax credits and later in the piece, 87 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 3: so what will happen if the taxpayers do not pick 88 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 3: up this tab With these significantly higher premiums, The couple 89 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 3: said they will have to make tough financial and lifestyle 90 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: lifestyle decisions, such as traveling less. 91 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 4: I can't. 92 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 8: I'm telling you, they've lost the plot. They've lost the plot. 93 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 3: Absolutely incredible. Chris Keating American experiment. Good morning, good morning. 94 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 9: How we doing so much worse than I thought I would? 95 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 4: Good morning there. It is nice to see you this morning. 96 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 4: It's so good to see both of you. 97 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: So any travel plans for you in the near future. 98 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 3: I know you like to travel a lot. You may 99 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 3: not be able to if these if these, if the 100 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 3: government doesn't get back open. 101 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 9: Comparently I was traveling this week. Actually I was in 102 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 9: Salt Lake City for a few days. 103 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 4: You are a world traveler for these past few weeks. 104 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: Yes. 105 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 4: Was it vacation or was it was it for fun? 106 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 4: Or was it for work? 107 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 9: I was at a meeting of actually communications professionals who 108 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 9: work at think tank state based think tanks from around 109 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 9: the country. 110 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 4: Nice it was wonderful. 111 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: Well, it's good to have you in studio, as always 112 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: in the Bill Blonde piece, just really quick on another 113 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: point on walls. Here he wraps up on this because 114 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: it's it's it needs to be noted. More than twenty 115 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 3: thousand undocumented immigrants on Minnesota Care will constant the state 116 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: of Minnesota, and we talked about it earlier in the week, 117 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 3: over one hundred and four million dollars this year, and 118 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 3: they will pay nothing. Many able bodied, unemployed young people 119 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 3: who live with their parents will get Medicaid and they 120 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: will pay nothing. After the pandemic, there were more than 121 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 3: fifty thousand people on Medicaid Minnesota then when it started, 122 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: more people than when it started five years prior. 123 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 4: They pay nothing. 124 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: It isn't fair that such a small fraction of people 125 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: should shoulder the volatility of the market exchange is caused 126 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: by foolish policy decisions by the fabulous who doubled the 127 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 3: cost of caresince Obamacare. The Democrats and the Senate need 128 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: to vote for the clean spending resolution that's on their 129 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 3: desk that will reopen the government so bipartisan work can 130 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: begin to solve the upcoming challenges and expanding access and 131 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: smoothing out the cost of spikes. 132 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 8: And you know what's crazy in Minnesota is during the Trifecta, 133 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 8: there were dozens of new mandates that were passed on 134 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 8: insurance companies. So what we're essentially doing is we're asking 135 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 8: insurance companies, especially those who actually have to implement Medicaid plans. 136 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 8: We're basically saying we're going to add new restrictions to 137 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 8: what you can and can't offer, and then we're going 138 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 8: to have to fund the thing that makes insurance more expensive. 139 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 8: So these people don't understand how healthcare pool works, how 140 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 8: actually having high risk people is going to increase the 141 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 8: cost for everybody. And as you get this proliferation of 142 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 8: Medicaid dollars that flow into our state and then are 143 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 8: administered by private insurance companies, people seem to think that, oh, 144 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 8: insurance companies are these big bad entities and they're not perfect. 145 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 8: But what we're doing is we're essentially saying we're going 146 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 8: to put more mandates on plans, We're going to add 147 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 8: more regulation, and then as the cost of insurance increases, 148 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 8: adn't it, taxpayers have to come in and save the industry. 149 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 8: It's a ridiculous notion here in Minnesota. 150 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 9: And that's the problem, isn't it. That's the pattern you 151 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 9: see in so many industries in the state and even nationally, 152 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 9: the people who vote for policies, who craft policies and 153 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 9: then pass them that make things more expensive for average 154 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 9: Americans and Minnesotans and turn around and say, oh, it's 155 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 9: the other party's fault. We are going to now force 156 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 9: other you the taxpayer, to fund UH to make these 157 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 9: things more affordable. 158 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: For everyone else. It's so messed up. 159 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: You know, there's an interesting turn here, and we'll take 160 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: a quick break here in a moment, and Representative Tom 161 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 3: Emer should be joining us on the show, will continue 162 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: discussion about the about the shutdown. 163 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 4: But on the show, it used to be that, you know, 164 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 4: you talk about. 165 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: These issues, you had foes of the show leave comments, 166 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: and you know, I'm using that term throughout my entire 167 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 3: career of people that listen to the show but don't 168 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 3: agree what I have with what I have to say. 169 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 3: And you know, there was a mentality though maybe those 170 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: individuals will hear some of the of the truth of 171 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: what we're talking about and the proper context over these issues, 172 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: right well, you know, they'll help those individuals out and 173 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: it's changed now Now there's no reasoning with anybody on 174 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: the left. I'm going to continue to push this. There 175 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: is absolutely no reasoning with these with these individuals right now. 176 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you just start with the baseline of advocating 177 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 3: the murder of your political opponent and not pushing back 178 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 3: and criticizing that, and the conversation just ends. So when 179 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: you end up talking about things like healthcare and subsidies 180 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: and ACA and pandemic dollars, that doesn't matter to anybody 181 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 3: on the left. I feel like now when we talk 182 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: about these issues and bring clarity, it's for the friends 183 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 3: of the show, just so you continue to have that 184 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 3: information necessary so you don't fall into the trap of 185 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: the individuals right now who are conservative but continue to 186 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: complain about Trump and Republicans because they buy into all 187 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: these ridiculous. 188 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 4: Arguments that are about that are being made on the 189 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 4: on the on the left. 190 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: Right now, it is such as such a very strange 191 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: time in terms of our political division, and something that 192 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: in the entirety of my career I've never experienced, nor 193 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: that I ever imagined we would be in this moment 194 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 3: right now. 195 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 8: And I think what you're seeing right now from specific candidates. 196 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 8: I'm always curious about when there's a messaging pivot on 197 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 8: the left. 198 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: But when I see JB. 199 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 8: Pritzk or go on Fox News and I see Bernie 200 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 8: Sanders given an interview, and both of them have now 201 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 8: said that Donald Trump has done a better job on 202 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 8: the border than Joe Biden. Both of them have come 203 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 8: out and said that, and Bernie Sanders went a step 204 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 8: further and said, in order to have a country, you 205 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 8: need a border. 206 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 4: That was something that Bernie Sanders. 207 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 8: Used to believe and then he changed his belief and 208 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 8: he seems to be changing back now because I think 209 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 8: most normal people are saying, if you think that boys 210 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 8: can play in girls' sports, and if you think that 211 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 8: we need to have an open border, then I can't 212 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 8: trust you on healthcare. I can't trust you on education. 213 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 8: I can't trust you on taxes. And you see, you're 214 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 8: starting to see a slow pivot of the ship back 215 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 8: to some semblance of normalcy. And if Left figures that out, 216 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 8: you know we'll actually have competitive elections again. 217 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if they're capable. I don't know if 218 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: they are either, they're capable at this point in time. 219 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: All right. 220 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: Representative Tom Emmer joins his next we'll get back to 221 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 3: more of your comments from the iHeartRadio, iboun A Freedom Friday, 222 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: Grace Keating, American Experiment, Representative Max Rymer, and studio Ak 223 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 3: Kamara joining us very soon here on Twin City's News Talk. 224 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: Gee, conservatives told you that Obamacare wouldn't work, and now 225 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: we're seeing again Obamacare doesn't work. Conservatives told you this 226 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: Republicans didn't vote for, did you, guys keep trying to 227 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: push it. How about let's get a nice private health 228 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: insurance system. If we did it well, we could probably 229 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: have costs go down because the courses of competition always 230 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: drive prices down and efficiencies up. 231 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 4: Oh hell yeah, Oh man, I just realized. I just 232 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 4: now realized. 233 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: I had a woman that had emailed me specifically this 234 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: week because she wanted to know when Representative Tom Emmer 235 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: was going to be on. Told her because you didn't 236 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: want to miss him, so be on at eight o'clock. 237 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 3: And then yesterday it moved. Oh I forgot to tell it. 238 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 4: You know what I'll do. 239 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 3: I will go out of my way as a host 240 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: here on Twinesday's News Talk from the six five one 241 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: carpet next day, install studios, and I will make Sam 242 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: pull the interview and I'll email it to her because 243 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: I've got Tom. 244 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 4: I've got Tom on hold right, Yeah, Sammy signed up 245 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 4: for that. 246 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: Representative Tom emmer Good morning, sir, Welcome to the show 247 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: on a Freedom Friday. 248 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 4: It's always good to speak with you. 249 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: Wow. Thanks John, Good to be with you. 250 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: You know, this is I figured you'd appreciate this. You 251 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 3: can always you can instantly tell that there isn't negative 252 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: news about Trump when you just consider the headline of 253 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: a story. For example, Tom here from Fox nine locally 254 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: new poll shows how Americans feel about Congress Trump during shutdown. 255 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 3: I read that and I went, oh, apparently there's nothing 256 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: negative about Trump in this new poll, or else it 257 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: would have been. 258 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 4: It would have been in the headline. 259 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 3: Is sure enough in the piece and says, oh, Trump's 260 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 3: job rating remains steady. As a matter of fact, his 261 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 3: current approval rating is up slightly that it had been 262 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: even with all of the controversies. Doing nothing with my 263 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 3: fingers that continue to follow our president. Tom emmery, I 264 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 3: figured you'd appreciate that. 265 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: What controversy, I mean, the guy, this idiot at that 266 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: local fish wrap this morning is writing about the demolition 267 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: of the White House. For goodness sake, this guy has 268 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: done something to the while he's creating world peace job, 269 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: while he's securing the southern border, while he's helping bring 270 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: down prices for everyday Americans and trying to fix what 271 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: these crazy democrats had broken. He's so he did this 272 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: construction project in the road garden that I'm going to 273 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: tell you I was there. It should have been done 274 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: years ago. The road garden will now be used on 275 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: a regular basis for you know, whatever president is in 276 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: the Oval Office to host a you know, Americans and visitors, 277 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: et cetera. And now he's going to expand the ballroom 278 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: in the White House so that they don't have to 279 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: put a tent up outside when they have a large 280 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: state dinner, for instance, when a foreign dignitary a president 281 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: of another country comes in and they do these big 282 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: state dinners. Now you'll be able to do it inside 283 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: in the White House. And by the way, he's paying 284 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: for it with his own money. It's amazing. What is 285 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: the controversy? Job? 286 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't know, especially this one. 287 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: Tom. 288 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: I said it a couple of times this morning. I 289 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: mean of ridiculous criticism of Trump. This has to be 290 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 3: one of the most ridiculous. It doesn't impact ninety nine 291 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: point nine percent of anybody complaining about it. They're probably 292 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: not going to go to DC to look at it. 293 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: They're not going to be invited onto the White House 294 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 3: grounds to actually go to the ballroom. And as you mentioned, 295 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: it's not costing the taxpayers any money, but it continues 296 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: to go and show just this ridiculous approach the Democrats 297 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: have that's not working for them, of opposing everything that 298 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: Trump does, including you know, going so far as to 299 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: defend drug runners for crying out loud. 300 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 4: I mean, this is how ridiculous all of this has gotten. 301 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: Tom Emmer, Yeah, blow them out of the water. I mean, 302 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you it's long overdue. The United 303 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: States of America under previous leaders has been nothing more 304 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: than a patchyat for these cartels and people who are 305 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: killing our kids with their fentanyl. At this point, I 306 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: got to give Donald J. Trump credit because he is 307 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: actually doing what he said he was going to do 308 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: when he was on the campaign trail. John, And to 309 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: your point, it doesn't matter what Donald Trump does. Their 310 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: Trump derangement syndrome, and their hatred of our president is 311 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: so deep us For these left wing journalists that are 312 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: reporting in the Twin Cities area too, it is so 313 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: deep they can't help. But when he says yes, they 314 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: have to say no. And it just it's got to end. 315 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: Americans are sick of this. And you know what, you 316 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: don't have to be a Republican or Democrat to be 317 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: sick of it, Which is why I'm going to argue. 318 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: All this stuff is going on, and they keep trying 319 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: to portray it as that problematic, and his popularity keeps rising, 320 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: why is that job? Is it? Because the majority of Americans, 321 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: the seventy seven million people that voted for Donald Trump 322 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: last November, are happy that someone is finally doing what 323 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: they promised to do when they were running their campaign. 324 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it's amazing to me. 325 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 3: How much longer do you think this shutdown is going 326 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: to continue? Tom at this point in time? I know 327 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: there was some talk that maybe there was some moderate 328 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 3: Democrats on the Senate side that we're looking to end this, 329 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: but so far that hasn't happened. 330 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 4: And how long is this going to go on for? 331 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 2: Well, you're right, we thought after the Hate America rally. 332 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: And by the way, anybody who's listening who texted me 333 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: and said, oh, I don't hate America, Well, that disavow 334 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: the people that were carrying signs calling for the assassination 335 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: of our president. Disavow the third of your party that 336 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: now supports Hamas terrorists instead of Israel's right to survive. 337 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 2: If you disavow yourself, then yeah, you are. Otherwise you 338 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: are supporting the pro terrorist wing of the new Democrat, 339 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: Socialist Marxist Party of America. And we thought after that 340 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: day that a horrible display of anti American behavior last 341 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: Saturday on the mall, we expected that that would be 342 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: the thing that they needed to vote to reopen the government. 343 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: Why because Chuck Schumer and company I had to you know, 344 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: they had to keep the government closed until that rally happened, 345 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: because if they opened it before it happened, then the 346 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: rally would have been about them. So the rally ended. 347 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 2: And guess what we learned, John, We learned that they 348 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: came into this thing. They did this thing Democrats in 349 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: the Senate without having an exit strategy. This is the problem. 350 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: They should have wrote the book that Republicans wrote. You 351 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: cannot leverage your policy objectives from the minority. With the 352 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: federal government shutdown and all these polls, people who are 353 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 2: listening understand the polls don't mean anything. Right now. You 354 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: can find a Republican poll that says we're winning the shutdown. 355 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 2: You can find a Democrat poll that says they're winning 356 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,239 Speaker 2: the shutdown. Hey, look, nobody wins in a shutdown, but 357 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 2: more importantly, nobody cares until it's important to them, and 358 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: it's about to get very important to a lot of people. 359 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: John on a Friday today, federal government employees are not 360 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: getting paid. What does that mean? Air traffic controllers are 361 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: not getting paid. We were already two thousand or so 362 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: short through the three thousand short to the guys work 363 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: long hours as it is. By the way, you got 364 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: a credit to Sean Duffy, our Transportation secretary, and Donald J. Trump. 365 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: They have two thousand of the brightest, best young kids 366 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: at the Air Traffic Control Academy in Oklahoma. But you know, 367 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: with a government shutdown, they're probably wondering right now why 368 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: they want to get into government work. Regardless what you're 369 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: going to see now, which is it's going to start 370 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: to cause the heartburn. People are going to have their 371 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: flights delayed. People are going to have flights canceled. Come 372 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: next week. When you get to November, forty two million 373 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: people are going to be without their SNAP benefits, the 374 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: food assistance. You're going to have women, instance in children 375 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: who rely on the WI program that are going to 376 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: have problems. This is going to become a real big 377 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: thing for a lot of people. They are hurting a 378 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 2: ton of people, and it is Democrats. They're the ones 379 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: caused this. And as soon as people start to it 380 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: becomes important to them, they will train their eyes on 381 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: this party without a leader, without a message, and without 382 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 2: a plan. All their full strategy is we hate Trump, 383 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: you should too, and that's not gonna fly. 384 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: Representative Tom Emmer, we are out of time this morning, 385 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: but thank you so much for calling in. 386 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 4: Always great to speak with you. 387 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 3: We've got emmor weather outside right now was lower than 388 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: thirty two degrees this morning. Thought about you once again, 389 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 3: but great speaking with you and hope talk to you 390 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: again next week. 391 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: All right, John, have a great weekend. 392 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 3: Coming up more with our guests on our Freedom Friday. 393 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 3: Ak Kamar will be joining us as well. You're on 394 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: and off topic comments. We'll continue from the iHeartRadio app 395 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 3: brought to you by Lindahl Realty. We'll also get into 396 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: the former auditor makes explosive fraud claims about the DFL. 397 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 4: They knew and they let it happen. 398 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 6: Now, all these people worked up about the White House construction, 399 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 6: just tell them that there is a statue of Christopher 400 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 6: Columbus in that'll fix it. 401 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 4: Three point five add on the iHeartRadio app. 402 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: It is another Freedom Friday care on Twin Cities News 403 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 3: Talk from the sixty five one Carpet Next Day Install Studios. 404 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 4: My name is John Justice. 405 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 3: We have our guests in studio on our Freedom Friday 406 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 3: and of course Sam is next door in the Master 407 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 3: Control booth today. 408 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 10: Good morning John, and just a reminder, Aquarius Home Services 409 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 10: has your shot at four tickets to see Green Bay 410 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 10: Take on the Purple in early January plus five hundred 411 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 10: dollars in game day cash. 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The Trump arrangement syndrome 422 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 11: is insane. We used to always joke that a Trump 423 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 11: cured cancer, and they would say, what took him so 424 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 11: long or have some sort of complaint. He literally secures 425 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 11: piece in the Middle East and they cannot give him credit. 426 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 11: They've institutionalized revenge and fear amongst everyone. There's a new 427 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 11: story that just came out that FEMA was denying helping 428 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 11: people if they had a Trump sign that starting twenty 429 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 11: twenty one. 430 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 4: Hen I yeah, I remember that. I remember that going back. No, 431 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 4: you're not listen, You're not wrong. 432 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 3: And it's why I simply cannot take any criticism at 433 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: all coming from anybody on the left right now. 434 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 4: Seriously. 435 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're going to go to the links 436 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 3: to go and defend drug runners, to say that murder 437 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 3: is acceptable when it comes to your attorney general candidate, 438 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 3: or spend this amount of time getting this upset over 439 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,479 Speaker 3: White House renovations. You know, I can't. I cannot take you. 440 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: I cannot take you seriously. 441 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 8: There's an element again I said it earlier, of conservatives 442 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 8: don't take don't take the bait right when these stories 443 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 8: come out, you have to really analyze what was the 444 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 8: heart behind these stories, because you could have maybe a 445 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 8: problem with them building a new ballroom on the side 446 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 8: of the White House. But what you have to remember 447 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 8: is these stories originated from leftist hit pieces. 448 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 9: And that's also why it is frustrating for conservatives to 449 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 9: waste time and give more energy than is needed to 450 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 9: criticizing other conservatives on things that don't really matter, like 451 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 9: I don't know. We're in a fight for for bigger 452 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 9: things than a extension on the White House. 453 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 4: I want to play this clip. 454 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 3: I shared this right at the end of the show 455 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: yesterday we had Tim Slagel was in for Crash and Burn, 456 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 3: acting many nice and so I had a little commentary 457 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 3: surrounding this. In normal times, if you had a clip 458 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: like this, this would be dominating the news headlines right, 459 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 3: this would this would be covered wall to wall if 460 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: you if you were living in normal times now, comments 461 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 3: like this just get made. They end up popping up online, 462 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 3: you know, there's commentary, and then they just disappear. This 463 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: is state representative Democrat out of Texas, Yolanda Jones going 464 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 3: on CNN. Just listen to what she has to say here. 465 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 12: No, it absolutely doesn't work out from the hood. Okay, 466 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 12: So when a bully comes, like, if there are no rules, 467 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 12: you literally have to figure it out. So Donald Trump 468 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 12: has changed things and people trying to do what's always 469 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 12: been done is not going to work. And I think 470 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 12: that's why Democrats are losing black people. That's why they're 471 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 12: losing poor people, because poor people all they want is 472 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 12: for us to fight. So if you hit me in 473 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 12: my face, I'm not gonna punch you back in your face. 474 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 12: I'm gonna go across your neck. Because we can go 475 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 12: back and forth fighting each other's faces. You've got to 476 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 12: hit hard enough where they won't come back. And so yeah, 477 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 12: for the same way, I went to New York and 478 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 12: spoke with Governor Kathy Hockel and said, if they're going 479 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 12: to try to wipe us out in Texas, we need 480 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 12: to wipe out every Republican in New York, in California 481 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 12: and Illinois. 482 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: Well, she did the slashing of the next like she 483 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 3: did this throat motion, like basically, if you punch me, 484 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: I'm just going to turn around, just going to to 485 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 3: your throat. This is the level of rhetoric that we've 486 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 3: that we've landed on. 487 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 4: I get self defense, I understand that. 488 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 3: But then to couple that with the Republican comment and 489 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 3: and like I said, if this was normal times, this 490 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: would be wall to wall coverage over egregious comments like this. 491 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, are you not aware that people in your party 492 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 9: are killing conservatives? 493 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: Where have you been? 494 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 495 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 8: It doesn't matter, especially referencing the throat with Charlie curse. 496 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 4: Classes. All right, so let's go here. 497 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 3: So the the article, the editorial former Legislative Auditor is 498 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: the Walls Administration finally awake about fraud. The recent messes 499 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 3: and state programs represent failures in the executive branch and 500 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 3: among some legislator. This is being written by h This 501 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 3: was written by Minnesota Legislative Auditor Jim Nobles. Former Minnesota 502 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: Legislative Auditor Jim Nobles. At the start of the piece, 503 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 3: Jim says Rachelle Olsen's interview with Minnesota Legislative Auditor Judy 504 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 3: Judy Randall, on which, by the way, Rachelle rash. This 505 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 3: interview seemed, despite its headline, to offer a ray of 506 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 3: hope that the Walls administration is maybe finally doing something 507 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 3: about the problem of fraud in Minnesota government programs. It's 508 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: good news, but make no mistake about it, the theft 509 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: of millions of tax dollars from Minnesota programs resulted not 510 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 3: just from the actions of the thieves, but from the 511 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 3: failure of state executive officials to implement basic financial safeguards 512 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 3: recommended in numerous audit reports for several years. What Jim 513 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 3: Nobles lays out here is something that we've sort of 514 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: speculated on the show and the questions that we've raised 515 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 3: of when you see this increase in the amount of 516 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 3: money that's being requested from these different programs that turned 517 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 3: out to be fraudulent, why wasn't anybody at DHS raising 518 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 3: an eyebrow calling it into question? So let me share 519 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: some of the A real quick summary here. I got 520 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 3: this from the Minnesota House Fraud and Oversight Committee X 521 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 3: account to kind of bullet points it here. So former 522 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 3: Legislative auditor Jim Nobles massive fraud State programs. Wasn't just 523 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 3: theft it enabled was enabled by negligence political cover from 524 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 3: top officials in the Walls administration. For years, auditors warned 525 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 3: about week oversight at DHS and other agencies. State offish 526 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 3: let unvetted organizations run programs and failed to verify their claims, 527 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 3: opening up the door to repeated fraud. When the OLA, 528 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 3: the Office of Legislative Auditor, reported on proven childcare fraud, 529 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 3: the DFL Human Services Committee chair brushed it off, saying 530 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 3: there's always going to be fraud. The DFL committee chairs 531 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,239 Speaker 3: were further instructed not to allow any public hearings on 532 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 3: the OLA reports related to the fraud. Other lawmakers attacked 533 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: the auditor for referencing proven prosecutions, claiming it was harmful 534 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 3: to include them. Instead of fixing the problem, incredible, they 535 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 3: tried to bury it. And the last little point here, 536 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 3: Noble's message is clear state officials completely failed in their 537 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 3: jobs to protect taxpayer dollars, and even when as far 538 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: as hiding just how extensive the fraud was to the public. 539 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 4: Again, things that we. 540 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 3: Had all sort of seen with our own eyes but 541 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 3: didn't hear from anybody on the inside of how this 542 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 3: was all actually occurring. 543 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 8: And if you talk to anybody who has served at 544 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 8: the legislature for a long time, or not even that 545 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 8: long of a time, but just even in the last 546 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 8: five six years, what most people will tell you about 547 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 8: Jim Nobles as the Legislative Auditor is that he is 548 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 8: truly a balls and strikes guy. He was universally respected 549 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 8: when he was the Legislative Auditor. So for him to 550 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 8: come out with a piece like this that explicitly blames 551 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 8: the Walls administration for this systematic failure, just know you 552 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 8: are hearing from a man who would not come out 553 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 8: and say this if he did not have a leg 554 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 8: to stand on. This is not some Republican activist or 555 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 8: partisan hack. This was a guy who was universally respected 556 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 8: down in Saint Paul doing. 557 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 9: His job, getting this glimpse behind the curtain of what 558 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 9: allowed this fraud to happen. Internally, it feels as significant 559 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,239 Speaker 9: as like when the Twitter files came out and we 560 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 9: realized that they were suppressing accurate information that they knew 561 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 9: was factual because oh, well, it might be harmful to 562 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 9: the country even though it's true. 563 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 4: Even though it's true, we shouldn't let people talk about. 564 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 3: This you get into and I'll work off of I 565 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 3: got a couple different sources here. I have the article 566 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 3: in and of itself from Jim Nobles, but others have 567 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 3: done a really good job, like the one I was 568 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 3: sharing with you from the ex account of summarizing all 569 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: of this, and Bill glaugh had centered the American experiment 570 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 3: as doing a fantastic job as well. This repeats a 571 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 3: bit of what we mentioned a moment ago, but let's 572 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 3: get back into it. So it's the some legislator's part 573 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: of this whole thing that Bill says should raise eyebrows. 574 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 3: The occasion of Nobles piece was in response to the 575 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 3: commentary of his successor, the Auditor post Ola Judy Randall. 576 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 3: Her interview on the subject of state fraud and the 577 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 3: crisis jogged memories loose for Nobles, he writes in paragraph six, Again, 578 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: while executive officials were obviously negligent, less obvious is the 579 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 3: fact that some key legislators tried to minimize the fraud 580 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 3: and shield the Department of Human Services in the Walls administration. 581 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 3: And this idea that the then chair of the House 582 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: Human Services Committee just dismisses this, saying, oh, there's always 583 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 3: going to be fraud. I mean that in and of 584 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 3: itself is just a bombshell revelation. 585 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 4: I mean, in what world, in the private sector a 586 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 4: billion dollars in any way, shape or form. Can you 587 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 4: just say, oh, it's you know, we're always going to have. 588 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: Theft, We're always going to have this fraud. 589 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 4: There's always going to be fraud. 590 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 3: And then to say that and not go on one thing, 591 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 3: to go and say there's always going to be fraud, 592 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: let's go and do something about it, right, Okay, But 593 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 3: in this case, no, she refused to actually allow the 594 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 3: Office of Legislative Auditor to. 595 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 4: Even present the report to the committee. I mean, that's 596 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 4: just stunning to me. No, it truly is. 597 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 8: I've been telling people it is a matter of practicality 598 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 8: to vote Republican in this next election, right if you 599 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 8: want to change, even if you're Democrat. Usually it's this 600 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 8: partisan thing to say, hey, go go and vote Republican, 601 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 8: or I want you to vote Republican. But what has 602 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 8: been very apparent during my time in the House is 603 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 8: that you have one party that is serious about tackling 604 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 8: the fraud. You have another party who tacitly excuses it 605 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 8: or embraces it. Or sometimes participates in it. It sticks 606 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 8: with me that Representative Tina Leebling, one of my colleagues, 607 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 8: said on the House floor, there is zero corruption in Minnesota. 608 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 8: We don't have a corruption problem here. Imagine being that disconnected, ignorant, 609 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 8: or indulgent of the bad policies that we've developed over 610 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 8: the last ten years. 611 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 9: And you made this point earlier in the show. But 612 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 9: how broken is the DFL party in Minnesota that Tim 613 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 9: Walls is the best viable candidate. 614 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 4: They have after all of this. 615 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 9: I mean, he should be unable to step foot in 616 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 9: a voting place, let alone run for governor again. 617 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 3: Well, we were talking yesterday, well throughout the week this week, 618 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 3: do you guys hear about that heist at the Louver music? 619 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 8: Oh right, hey, you see do you see the lead 620 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 8: investigator by the way in this story and what. 621 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 4: He looked like. It's just just he. 622 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 8: Looks like a cartoon character, a French investigator. Excellent, imagine 623 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 8: a French investigator in your mind, and this guy plays 624 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 8: to every stereotype. 625 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 4: Go on, the director of the Louver came out and 626 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 4: said I'm going to resign. I mean she straight up 627 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 4: came out. 628 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 3: Now, the individuals in charge said, no, you know, we 629 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 3: need you here, We respect you, know your wishes, but 630 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: you know this isn't all your fault. I only point 631 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 3: that out because that's what real leadership does. Yes, they 632 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 3: look at a situation that happened under their watch, even 633 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 3: if it wasn't their fault, and they. 634 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 4: Go, the buck stops with me. 635 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 3: This happened under my watch, and I, at a bare minimum, 636 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 3: Walls shouldn't be running for re election. But he also 637 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 3: should have stepped down a long time ago in the 638 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: wake of all of this. 639 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 4: That's exactly it. 640 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 9: He Walls used those exact words in an interview. 641 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 4: We said, the buck stops here. 642 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 9: But then he's going to turn around and what promised 643 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 9: to just not let it happen again. 644 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 645 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 8: It reminds me of David Cameron, the former Prime Minister 646 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 8: of the UK. After Brexit happened, David Cameron the next 647 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 8: day came out and just resigned because he had felt like, hey, 648 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 8: I campaigned against Brexit, it failed, and I'm a failure, 649 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 8: so therefore I resign. That doesn't happen in American politics. 650 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 8: In fact, in most cases, these politicians are failing upward 651 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 8: until they're ninety years old. And that's the way we 652 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 8: do politics here. I want to play a quick talk 653 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 8: back here. 654 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 12: It is. 655 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 3: Always entertaining to me how because it's a freedom Friday 656 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 3: and I'm going to allow myself to do this. It's 657 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 3: always entertaining to me how foes of the show they 658 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 3: all fall under the same the same arguments, the same 659 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 3: tried arguments, and then the same attempts to sort of 660 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 3: undermine the show in and of itself. So let me 661 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 3: let me play this again. This is deep throat to. 662 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 13: Eric and more than Eric from Brainard Auditors just wondering 663 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 13: why what happened to the interview with Elliott Ingen that 664 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 13: was supposed to happen today. 665 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 4: I know is Binky and Bob. 666 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 13: Bob probably wasn't ready, but uh yeah, I don't not 667 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 13: sure why we should be showing up to vote for 668 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 13: him if he's not even going to show up to 669 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 13: do an interview on the show. 670 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 3: I never said that Elliott Ingen was going to be 671 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 3: on the show today. I mentioned yesterday his announcement to 672 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 3: run for auditor. I said maybe we would have him 673 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 3: call in today. He's actually going to be in studio 674 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 3: on Monday morning at seven point thirty to talk about 675 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 3: his run. I just I love the fact that when 676 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 3: I have these foes of the show listeners, what happened 677 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 3: to this way? 678 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 4: Is he not ready yet? 679 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 3: I must be doing and we must all be doing 680 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 3: a bang up job here on the show with out 681 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 3: of everything that we've talked about this morning. That's the 682 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 3: criticism that you have regarding it. I just had to 683 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 3: deviate for a second while ak Kamara gets settled in. 684 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 3: I want to go back to Tina Leebling really quick. 685 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 4: Your girl waiting, So, my girl. 686 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 3: The OLA Report the Office of Legislative Auditor on Child 687 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 3: on the childcare subsidy fraud that was issued in March 688 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 3: of twenty nineteen. So American Experiment had covered the report 689 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 3: when it first came out. In a March twenty nineteen story, 690 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 3: MPR quoted the then chair of the House in Human 691 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 3: Services Committee, Tina Leebling, who you mentioned earlier, who said this, 692 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 3: we need to be very careful when we start accusing 693 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 3: people and accusing entire communities really of being less than 694 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 3: concerned about where the public money is going. Leeblin continues 695 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 3: to serve in the legislature. In his commentary, Nobles recalls 696 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 3: another twenty nineteen event, where he says, as like minded 697 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 3: House members joined in criticizing the OLA for investigating allegations 698 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 3: of fraud and human services. I met with then Speaker 699 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 3: Melissa Hortman. As always, she was thoughtful and supportive of 700 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 3: the OLA's work, but acknowledged that some members of her 701 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 3: caucus were upset. They felt the OLA reports were subjecting 702 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 3: human service programs to too much criticism, particularly programs administered 703 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 3: by the Somali community organizations, to which Bill Glohm rights 704 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 3: too much criticism of DHS programs. Six years later, it 705 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 3: turns out to have been far too little correct. Billions 706 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 3: of dollars worth of new frauds have gone out the 707 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 3: door since the OLA's March twenty nineteen report. That report 708 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 3: struck a nerve and Democrats are still smarting over it. 709 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 3: And again, I understand the reluctance to go and point 710 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 3: to particular demographics and communities here in Minnesota. And it's 711 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 3: not to go and disparage particular communities as a whole, 712 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 3: but you need to go and address the situation and 713 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 3: the facts of the situation, and the truth of the 714 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 3: matter is it's actually hurting the Somali community because it's 715 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 3: the Somali community that was in large part taking not 716 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 3: taking advantage, but using the services that were found out 717 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 3: to be fraudulent. And when they go to use these 718 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 3: services and they can't, then they're not getting service, which 719 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 3: is which was supposed to come from the taxpayer dollars. 720 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 3: So you've got a really complicated issue here, but you 721 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 3: have a lot of political care directness and fear that 722 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 3: certain demographics of Democrat voters are going to get upset. 723 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 3: And that's what this ultimately comes down to, and Tina 724 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 3: Leebling's concern and at the end. 725 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 8: Of the day, when we're talking about solutions, remove the 726 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 8: demographics from it. 727 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 4: Right, just stop the fraud period. 728 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 8: I mean, if there are demographic groups that are being 729 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 8: more impacted by the fact that you're stopping the fraud, 730 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 8: well that's too bad. Because if you're a criminal, I 731 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 8: don't care what race you are, stop being a criminal, right, 732 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 8: just stop the fraud. And what's very apparent is that 733 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 8: Democrats in the Minnesota House especially are not concerned. They 734 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 8: don't think it's a problem. Tina Leebling said there is 735 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 8: a zero corruption. We have zero corruption in the state 736 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 8: of Minnesota. I heard her say. 737 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 3: That business owner ak Kamara, RNC Committee man, Good morning, 738 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 3: Tina Leebling. 739 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 14: Saying that we have zero fraud is like saying that 740 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 14: Keith Ellison has never been accused of credibly beating his 741 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 14: ex girlfriend. 742 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 4: It's just not reality. 743 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 3: Wow, you're coming in, whoa the conservative ravel rousers coming 744 00:38:59,120 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 3: on hot. 745 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 4: Super hot man. 746 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 14: I mean, I've been pushing this so hard because I 747 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 14: can't believe that Keith Ellison has the audacity to run 748 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 14: for a third term. And he's just like, yeah, I 749 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 14: don't care, like whatever, Like you can go back to 750 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 14: twenty eighteen and find all these articles of my ex girlfriend, 751 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 14: like literally giving her testimony of what happened of me 752 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 14: beating her. I don't care, And I think it's crazy 753 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 14: because most people don't even acknowledge. So yeah, I'm coming 754 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 14: in hot on Keith Ellison. I'm gonna be on him 755 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 14: until he either loses by like twenty points or he 756 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,959 Speaker 14: resigns an absolute shame. 757 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 3: Speaking of which, Ron Schultz, the Attorney General shoots and 758 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 3: the date shoots, shoots, shoots. Thank you for correcting me, 759 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 3: or shoot ty if you prefer, because it's this C 760 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 3: H U E T T. 761 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 8: I don't know, but any of that that sounds like 762 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,479 Speaker 8: North Dakota talk right there. 763 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 4: It's still it's still ways at right? 764 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 2: Is that? 765 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 4: Is that right? 766 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:53,439 Speaker 3: In my getting? 767 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 2: Why? 768 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 4: Why calls about that one? Why is that I was choking? 769 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 4: That was a joke. Are you longtimers? You know what 770 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 4: I'm talking about? 771 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 3: So Ron Shoots he confused me over there, so I 772 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 3: don't know. Ron Shoots will be on the show. 773 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 14: Awesome. 774 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 3: Just for Deep Throat Eric here, that will be Tuesday morning. 775 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 3: If you're keeping tabs, I'm glad that you're thinking about 776 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 3: when the next guests are going to be on. He 777 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 3: will be in the in studio on a Tuesday morning. 778 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 3: Representative Elliott Ingen will be in studio. 779 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 4: On Monday morning. 780 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 3: All right, and we're gonna get back to all of 781 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 3: our guests coming up in just a moment here on 782 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 3: Twin City's News Talk. 783 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 4: We do have business owner ak. 784 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 3: Kamara coming to Hot, very Hot, Grace keating American Experiment 785 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 3: American Experiment podcast. We also have representative Max Rymer, and 786 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 3: of course you on the iHeartRadio app brought to you 787 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 3: by Lyndahl Realty. 788 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 4: That would be the talkbacks. 789 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 5: Good Morning, John Sam and guests as somebody that's been 790 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 5: in the business world. For over thirty five years, I 791 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 5: have worked under many leaders and it is a rare 792 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 5: individual who has the courage and fortitude to say, you 793 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 5: know what, I screwed up. 794 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 4: I'll take the blame. 795 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 5: They make them all money, but they never want to 796 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 5: take the most blame. And you see it in government 797 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 5: and you see it in business, and it's really sickening 798 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 4: To us worker bees who do all the heavy lifting