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Speaker 4: Paul is right in the world. Gorgeous outside. This is

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Speaker 4: ESPN fifteen thirty and we're at Oakley Greens. Paul Danner

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Speaker 2: Here with me at Oakley Greens.

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Speaker 4: We I have a deep appreciation now for one o'clock

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Speaker 4: Sunday games, the Mondays and Thursdays.

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Speaker 4: Throw off the equilibrium, They throw off my schedule, they

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Speaker 4: throw off my timing. And even if you get like

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Speaker 4: an iconic Thursday night game, which I'm calling Thursday Night's

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Speaker 4: game iconic, there's still the rhythm and routine of being

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Speaker 4: here on Tuesday and Paul being here on Tuesday. You

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Speaker 4: know how much we love Oakley Greens. We are pseudo outdoors.

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Speaker 4: It is gorgeous out You can be outdoors if you'd like.

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Speaker 4: We've got the outdoor Bar, the indoor bar, an unbelievable

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Speaker 4: place for watching the Bengals play for your college football

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Speaker 4: televised games. Great place to bring your dog, fun plays

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Speaker 4: of them looks like he's in the tackling position that

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Speaker 4: Logan Wilson tries to make. Or maybe Barrett Carter, I'm

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Speaker 4: not sure, but anyway, we're here at Oakley Greens having fun.

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Speaker 2: Paul Danner Junior's here. How is it going.

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Speaker 5: It's going great, Mo, It's good to be here. My

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Speaker 5: kids are coming up here a little bit, are they.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think they're gonna come up here after the show

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Speaker 5: and hang out. They were famous, opportunity to run around,

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Speaker 5: get some player on time in awesome.

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Speaker 2: They love it up here. I feel like I haven't

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Speaker 2: seen you like a month. I know, it's been such

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Speaker 2: a mess. I don't feel right, I said to you.

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Speaker 5: You know, I just I was so knocked out the

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Speaker 5: green Bay late window and we of course did the

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Speaker 5: like drive.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's attempt to get back from.

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Speaker 5: Green Bay was either late or weird flights, or we

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Speaker 5: just drove through the night. And then you get that

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Speaker 5: right into this like Thursday game and we're there. I

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Speaker 5: mean we left the stadium, Jay and I left it

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Speaker 5: like three fifteen or something really Friday morning, and then there.

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Speaker 2: Was a morning availability.

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Speaker 5: The locker room was open at eleven thirty, which's fun.

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Speaker 5: I was there, Yeah, but you h I don't know

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Speaker 5: how much I was doing, but like I was there,

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Speaker 5: it's just you just you just appreciate what we have

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Speaker 5: now in front of us, which is back to back

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Speaker 5: home games at one o'clock and a bye week after that,

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Speaker 5: and hopefully we can get a little bit recalibrated. It's

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Speaker 5: just been all over And then you throw that in

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Speaker 5: with like everything's been a mess, the.

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Speaker 2: Flag situation, it's been weird. You just everything has spelt.

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Speaker 5: Dude's getting benched, dude's getting benched all over the place.

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Speaker 5: And so yeah, I mean we were sort of talking

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Speaker 5: do with Joe Flacco that maybe you hadn't thought of

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Speaker 5: because it's just been chaos. Yeah, before you have time

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Speaker 5: And I feel like that wasn't just for him, that

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Speaker 4: But to me, that's the beauty of Joe Flacco because

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Speaker 4: watching him, you didn't get chaos.

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Speaker 4: No, I was talking about this last week here that

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Speaker 4: the payoff was against Pittsburgh. But there was there was

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Speaker 5: No, they brought in the King of Calm, you know,

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Speaker 5: but really, the calm for me is when I stepped

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Speaker 5: He's like, but once I get up to the to

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Speaker 5: And I think there's a calm and confidence in that

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Speaker 4: It's remarkable that this is where we are. This team's

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Speaker 4: defense has stunk all season. They just had a four

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Speaker 4: game losing streak. The quarterback is Joe Flacco on like

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Speaker 4: I spent some time today sort of drawing out the

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Speaker 4: roadmap to the postseason, which I think is very real.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean if you look at who they play,

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Speaker 2: AFC North isn't strong.

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Speaker 5: The AFC North now is wide open, which goes back

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Speaker 5: do not hesitate, essentially turned Green Bay into a glorified

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Speaker 5: hope that that combination gets you that win, because that

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Speaker 5: I think doubt that you thought maybe existed in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 5: there's a good chance, maybe you'd say fifty sixty seventy

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Speaker 5: It was a new level of futility every single week

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Speaker 5: have a little bit of hope. I mean, there's still

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Speaker 5: the funny thing that, you know, Jay and I were

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Speaker 2: We think the offense is pretty good, and I don't

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Speaker 5: It's like, this is exactly It's in no way imaginable

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Speaker 5: that's been going on and obviously rightfully publicized at the

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Speaker 4: get stops when you need it? Okay, statistically they're not

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Speaker 4: And against Pittsburgh the answer was no, And against Detroit

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Speaker 4: I hate to do it because everybody's excited, and the

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Speaker 4: But then there's the cold water of watching my friend

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Speaker 4: Gino Stone try to chase down Pat fryermanth And there's

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Speaker 4: the story of a defense where we're benching Cam Taylor

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Speaker 4: seeing Al Golden just try to throw stuff against the

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Speaker 2: The deadline and all of that. And so the answer

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Speaker 4: And as as much as nobody wants to hear that,

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Speaker 5: So much of what's happening is grasping. It just desperation,

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Speaker 5: Everybody literally the answer has been, well, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: There you go. DJ Turner is good.

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Speaker 5: And seven weeks later, you're not just the best cornerback

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Speaker 5: That's right, Charlie Goldsmith's here. Wow, Charlie not gonna hang

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, is it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the listeners would be well served if

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Speaker 5: We spent forty five minutes breaking down DJ Turner Ta.

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Speaker 2: There are no headlines. There's nothing really going on right.

445
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Speaker 5: Not really.

446
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Speaker 2: It's good. It's good. Could use some some calm, yeah.

447
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Speaker 2: Can the Bengals acquire some help at the trade deadline?

448
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Speaker 5: Can they?

449
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

450
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Speaker 5: I guess they can. Should they I mean, I think

451
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Speaker 5: anyone else that could rush the pastor would probably be

452
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Speaker 5: welcome at this point. I don't know, would you what.

453
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Speaker 2: Do I acquire help at the deadline? Yeah? How much?

454
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Speaker 5: What would you be be willing to part? I mean

455
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Speaker 5: I see the interest.

456
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Speaker 2: Yes, I understand, would be willing to give up?

457
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

458
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Speaker 6: What?

459
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Speaker 5: And then to me, like I I I appreciate these questions.

460
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Speaker 5: I I understand, Like it's like, should they Yeah, there's

461
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Speaker 5: a lot of things that the team should do that

462
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Speaker 5: they're just not going to do though, like this, they

463
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Speaker 5: made their trade. Now, I could be wrong in this.

464
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Speaker 5: Maybe maybe they're just like man one pass rusher away

465
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Speaker 5: or an experienced veteran linebacker that could come in and

466
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Speaker 5: help out these young kids. Or maybe there's injuries that happened.

467
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Speaker 5: I feel like that's usually where you see another move happen.

468
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Speaker 5: But they've already parted ways with some draft capital from

469
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Speaker 5: next year, so that's that's gonna make them less likely

470
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Speaker 5: to do it. They're not a team that's one trade

471
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Speaker 5: deadline piece away. I think it would be a matter

472
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Speaker 5: of we can't function the rest of the year, which

473
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Speaker 5: is similar to how the Khalil Herbert thing happened last

474
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Speaker 5: year with the injuries at running back was Zach Moss

475
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Speaker 5: to me, and I forgot about him. It happens like that,

476
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Speaker 5: right immediately forgot about he was here.

477
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Speaker 2: He was he was here.

478
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Speaker 5: He fumbled his first rushing attempt, and so they played

479
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Speaker 5: Chase Brown one hundred percent of steps. But you you

480
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Speaker 5: can do that. So that But I think that's the

481
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Speaker 5: way that it happens, like, I don't. I don't think

482
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Speaker 5: that you're looking at some they're gonna be like, you

483
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Speaker 5: know what, let's let's go for it, right. I know

484
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Speaker 5: people want that. I know that a lot of teams

485
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Speaker 5: operate that way. And I I'm not like saying a

486
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Speaker 5: name it's right or wrong. I'm just saying the likelihood

487
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Speaker 5: of them going out and acquiring somebody. It's just I

488
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Speaker 5: don't necessarily see it at this point.

489
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Speaker 2: Don't get my hopes up, is what you're saying.

490
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Speaker 5: No, in the same way that we hear all about oh,

491
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Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson right, like they're not going to trade him now,

492
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Speaker 5: name me, no, name me. The last time they traded

493
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Speaker 5: away a player who could help them win games this

494
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Speaker 5: year at the deadline, And I'm not counting Carson Palmer,

495
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Speaker 5: Carlos Dunloe who napalm their way out of town.

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Speaker 4: Okay, never Yeah, even in years they were talking about

497
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Speaker 4: this on the pod today, Even in years where it's

498
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Speaker 4: been extraordinarily dire, like Zach's first season at the deadline

499
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Speaker 4: they were zero to eight.

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Speaker 2: They just played in London. They didn't trade any so

501
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Speaker 2: didn't trade. In years where it has been more they

502
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Speaker 2: had guys that agent degree.

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Speaker 5: You know, I can sure calling and I'm just saying

504
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Speaker 5: like that, And that's one example.

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Speaker 4: M h.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they just it's just.

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Speaker 5: It's just very very rare.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I asked you last week about the Logan Wilson situation.

510
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Speaker 4: Logan Wilson still played like forty six percent of the snaps.

511
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Speaker 5: Yeah, especially against teams where they're gonna be in base

512
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Speaker 5: a lot with three linebackers.

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Speaker 4: He was like he was being talked about as if

514
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Speaker 4: he was never gonna play football again, but he still

515
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Speaker 4: played a fair amount. That said, what they did was significant.

516
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Speaker 4: I got to a place last week, and this is

517
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Speaker 4: after talking to you. I got to a place last

518
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Speaker 4: week where I was kind of okay with it because

519
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Speaker 4: you're gonna draft these guys. You acknowledge we need an

520
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Speaker 4: instant impact. We need instant impact from our draft picks. Well,

521
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Speaker 4: you don't get that if the guy's not playing as

522
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Speaker 4: much as possible and if there is some sort of

523
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Speaker 4: later this year benefit to a guy like Barrett Carter

524
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Speaker 4: experiencing some growing pains in the middle of it. Defense

525
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Speaker 4: the top to bottom just isn't very good. I'm kind

526
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Speaker 4: of okay with that.

527
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not okay with all the mistackles, sure, And

528
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Speaker 5: I just feel like you have a more shore tackler

529
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Speaker 5: in Logan Wilson right now. This is not saying that

530
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Speaker 5: you can't eventually end up or figure out like to

531
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Speaker 5: me it was. It's more of like, yeah, he's playing

532
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Speaker 5: whatever whatever that percentage and yeah, you know that's fine,

533
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Speaker 5: but that's still I want a more shore tackler out

534
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Speaker 5: there the majority of the time right now.

535
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Speaker 2: Like that's just with what is.

536
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Speaker 5: Happening, with the level of play that you're getting. The

537
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 5: mistackles are just killing them and it can be the

538
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Speaker 5: difference between the one stop right that you can have

539
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Speaker 5: and I just it just seemed a little that's where

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Speaker 5: the difference could be between Logan Wilson and Barrett Carter.

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Speaker 2: But I understand the like anything else.

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Speaker 5: At some point, if we're ever gonna be good, it's

543
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Speaker 5: probably gonna have to be because maybe Barrett Carter becomes

544
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Speaker 5: a guy. But then, you know, I think Demetrius Knight

545
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Speaker 5: has played where when Barrett Carter has been out there,

546
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Speaker 5: how much was he helped by the veteran pass next

547
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Speaker 5: to him? So is that a part of what's happening there?

548
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 5: Or is that circumstantial? I don't know.

549
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Speaker 2: Not paid to figure those answers out necessarily.

550
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Speaker 5: I don't. I can just tell you what I've seen,

551
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 5: and I know the last two weeks, when they've not

552
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 5: really had Logan Wilson, we have seen a substantial drop

553
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Speaker 5: off in miss tackles and from the play in general,

554
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Speaker 5: from both linebackers, not just one.

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Speaker 2: All of that is very valid.

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Speaker 4: I guess the way I looked at it is the

557
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 4: Bengals have a bad defense. If they're gonna get better,

558
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 4: you gotta find solutions somewhere. They're not gonna suddenly acquire

559
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 4: a bunch of dudes. There aren't some dbs waiting in

560
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 4: the offing, Like, all right, let's try Barrett Carter and

561
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Speaker 4: if part of the growing pains is he misses some tackles. Okay, well,

562
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 4: our defense stinks anyway, and they don't stink because of

563
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Speaker 4: Logan Wilson. It's just if you're gonna try something new.

564
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Speaker 4: Linebacker to me is just automatically where you look. Because

565
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Speaker 4: they did draft Barret Carter. They're clearly in just play

566
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Speaker 4: the kids mode.

567
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Speaker 5: Mean, it's just look, every draft picks out here, playing

568
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 5: every draft pick except for Shamar Stewart and kind of

569
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 5: got pulled back a little bit, but but you know,

570
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 5: but they're all they're all out there and they're just saying, look,

571
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 5: at some point, we have to turn this roster over

572
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 5: with new life, new energy, build a new core, all

573
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 5: of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: And they're doing that. They're doing that everywhere, and so

575
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Speaker 2: I get the move.

576
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Speaker 5: I get the feeling that that's part of this broader

577
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 5: thing that they're doing. I'm not again, I just feel

578
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 5: like there's a chance, and hell, it could have been

579
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 5: that game Thursday, that that move could cost you a

580
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 5: game or two right now when you desperately needed it

581
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 5: to hang on to what to where you're currently at

582
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 5: and you do have a lot of season left to

583
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 5: get those guys in there.

584
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Speaker 2: I see both sides.

585
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Speaker 5: It's it's a terrible thing to have to ask, you know,

586
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 5: when you're in such a dire situation defensively that you're like, well,

587
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 5: let's should we just play a rookie even though this

588
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 5: guy's fine, because we just need anything else to start

589
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 5: to bubble up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a tough spot to be in. There's

591
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Speaker 2: no right answer necessarily.

592
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Speaker 4: I was at Kroger yesterday morning and the kid, probably

593
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Speaker 4: the guy in his twenties, but there was a young

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Speaker 4: man collecting all the shopping carts, and the shopping cart

595
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Speaker 4: that's designed for kids that kind of is modeled like

596
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Speaker 4: a car got away and.

597
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: He went to go corral it.

598
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 4: And then two other shopping carts got away, and this

599
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 4: guy has these three shopping carts kind of coming at

600
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Speaker 4: him as co worker. And it reminded me of Gino

601
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Speaker 4: Stone in the secondary, because this guy was lost, he

602
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Speaker 4: didn't know what shopping cart to go after the one

603
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Speaker 4: shopping cart kind of fell over. Yeah, and I'm like,

604
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Speaker 4: all right, when I got two other decisions to make,

605
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Speaker 4: that one's going to go hit a car, and it did,

606
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Speaker 4: and instead he just let the one that was kind

607
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Speaker 4: of coming right at him kind of almost knock him over.

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Speaker 2: This was like watching Geno Stone.

609
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Speaker 4: I am running out of things to compare Geno Stone too,

610
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 4: but shopping cart kid at the dent Kroger yesterday was

611
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Speaker 4: made me think of Geno. I've compared him to my dog.

612
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Speaker 4: You did compare him to your dog.

613
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 5: I was gonna ask you, has your dog's angles improved

614
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 5: more so than we've My dog.

615
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Speaker 4: Has gotten better than than Geno Stone. I think I

616
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 4: compared him to I watched a drunk girl chase down

617
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Speaker 4: a lift downtown after the lift had gone a block

618
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Speaker 4: too far. So I was asked today and I don't

619
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Speaker 4: have the answer. How bad of the guys behind him?

620
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean apparently apparently very.

621
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Speaker 2: I mean I don't. I don't have answers.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is it's it's something that we keep saying, right,

623
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Speaker 5: It's like, it's not like we weren't talking about this

624
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Speaker 5: in February, Right, It's not like we weren't talking about

625
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Speaker 5: this when you guys said we believe in you, but

626
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 5: here's your pay cut? Like, yes, this has been the

627
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Speaker 5: conversation the entire time.

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Speaker 2: It's just not taking.

629
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Speaker 5: I don't have any explanation for the sixty eight yard

630
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 5: touchdown pass.

631
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: I can Geno Stone is on the field.

632
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Speaker 5: Then I don't understand how that you know, if if

633
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 5: you're gonna be out here saying I don't know anything

634
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 5: else about Logan Wilson, how are you not saying I

635
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 5: don't know anything else about if you play Logan Wilson

636
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 5: in safety? Maybe that's the answer. Maybe Barrett Carter moves

637
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 5: the safe. Fine, yeah, maybe we I don't know. Maybe

638
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 5: it's PJ Jewles.

639
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: How bad are Tyson Anderson and Dejon Anthony?

640
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean well Dejon is still not on the club,

641
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 5: by the way, so uh but yeah, I think this

642
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 5: would be about I don't know, can Tyson Anderson play

643
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 5: some defense for you?

644
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: I think you at a certain point.

645
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 5: It's it's not like you're like, well, you know, you know,

646
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 5: Gino is such a good tackler that you don't want

647
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 5: to take him off the field. It's not that you're

648
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 5: not seeing these problems in a massive moment like what

649
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 5: happened in the Friarmith play, just not even seeing the

650
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 5: guy running down the middle of the field.

651
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: I don't I don't have an answer.

652
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 5: For you on that one, other than they're clearly just

653
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 5: knowledge they think he's either better than we think he is,

654
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 5: or they just had zero belief in anything happening behind them,

655
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 5: and in which case it's like, well, then you do

656
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 5: need to be looking around at the trade deadline and

657
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 5: making some calls the same things that we said when

658
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 5: we talked about the starting level and the depth level

659
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 5: all off season.

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Speaker 4: They watched the films of the games after they are played, right,

661
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Speaker 4: I heard that. Yeah, and they sit in this room

662
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Speaker 4: and there's Geno Stone and they're like, yeah, we can

663
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Speaker 4: just correct the technique and we'll be okay. Like I

664
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Speaker 4: don't want to pick on the guy, but good god,

665
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Speaker 4: twenty two what are we doing?

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Speaker 5: It's and this.

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Speaker 2: Is a second year, it's second system. He's in the

668
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Speaker 2: sixth NFL season. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what to do. I just think you

670
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Speaker 5: just watch the grocery carts crash into the car and

671
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Speaker 5: you just say, well, that's unfortunately.

672
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Speaker 4: Like I'm gonna want I'm gonna go to the game

673
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Speaker 4: on Sunday against the Jets and spend half of it

674
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Speaker 4: thinking of other things I've seen in my every day

675
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Speaker 4: life that I can compare Geno Stone to.

676
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Speaker 2: And this is getting exhausting.

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Speaker 5: It's not that hard. It's just whenever you see somebody

678
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Speaker 5: or something that's lost.

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Speaker 2: It's I mean it's like they're they're everywhere, They're all

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Speaker 2: around us.

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Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, yeah, there's there's there's no there's no

682
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Speaker 4: denying that the offensive line they put Jalen Rivers in, right,

683
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Speaker 4: is this unit actually progressing? Are they being masked by

684
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Speaker 4: how quickly Joe Flacco has got rid of the ball?

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Speaker 11: Uh?

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Speaker 5: I think it's more of being masked by how quickly

687
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Speaker 5: Joe Flacco is getting getting rid of the ball. I mean,

688
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Speaker 5: he was two point twenty seven seconds time to throw

689
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Speaker 5: against Pittsburgh, which was a top ten for Flacco all times,

690
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Speaker 5: and they've been tracking that. So even by Flacco standards,

691
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 5: that was really fast getting the ball out. They're out,

692
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 5: they're executing that plan. Ideally, it doesn't expose your players.

693
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Speaker 5: It's sort of like a couple weeks ago when we

694
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Speaker 5: talked when when I had the story of talking with

695
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 5: Andrew Whitworth and we talked about that, that's who saying, See,

696
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 5: it's so hard. It's the hardest gig in the NFL

697
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 5: in terms of offensive line to block in Cincinnati because

698
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 5: of the way that things are constructed, the past heavy

699
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 5: nature the true pass sets they're by just the plays

700
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 5: that they're running quick game on, the more under center,

701
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 5: a little bit more play action, some of that stuff

702
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 5: that they're just doing a little bit more often is

703
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 5: lessening the amount of true pass sets where guys have

704
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 5: to block for a little bit longer.

705
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Speaker 2: And yeah, guys.

706
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Speaker 5: Look better when they're in a little bit better situation

707
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Speaker 5: in terms of the what they're asked to do every time.

708
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Speaker 2: And I do think they have played better.

709
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Speaker 5: I do think they've they've stabilized a little bit there,

710
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 5: but it's still, you know, you still have a lot

711
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 5: of the same stuff going on, but it's just not

712
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 5: as obvious. And that's just the way they need to be, Like,

713
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 5: that's what they need to be offensively. It helps when

714
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 5: you're not in bad down and distance. Look, getting the

715
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Speaker 5: running game going against Pittsburgh was a game changer. Like

716
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Speaker 5: if that can continue, you it keeps them out of

717
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Speaker 5: the you know, earlier this season they run all of

718
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 5: the second and third and long situations and those guys

719
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 5: are just not going to be able to hold up

720
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Speaker 5: like that. Very few linemen kN and you're just asking

721
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Speaker 5: a lot. But the fact that they've been able to

722
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 5: stay in front of the sticks. Really by Flacco getting

723
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Speaker 5: out quick, making the profit, getting your to second and

724
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 5: seven or six instead of second and ten or second

725
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 5: and twelve or whatever, like, it makes all the difference

726
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 5: in the world that you're making it easier on these guys.

727
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 5: So Flacco's ability to continually find something and get rid

728
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 5: of the ball and get something out of every play,

729
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Speaker 5: even if it's not exciting, has allowed life to be

730
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Speaker 5: a lot easier on those guys in front of them.

731
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Speaker 2: Then they're running the ball.

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Speaker 5: And they found it actually well, I made it sound

733
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Speaker 5: like they've been doing it for weeks. They ran it

734
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Speaker 5: really well, ran it really well, and you saw you

735
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 5: saw shades of it against Green Bay. Yeah, you saw climbers.

736
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 5: It was starting to happen a little bit. And then

737
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Speaker 5: when they finally broke it out the other day, it

738
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 5: seemed like, Okay, now they might be onto a little

739
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 5: bit of something. And you know, the energy, the energy

740
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 5: picks up. I mean, when you go from the long

741
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 5: of the year being thirteen and then you actually watch

742
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 5: a twenty eight and a thirty seven yarder breakout, it's

743
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 5: like watching a different sport. Yeah, and so yeah, it'll

744
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 5: it'll change things for you. And the cool thing was

745
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 5: they were talking about how much it opened up a

746
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 5: lot of other stuff where they can felt like they

747
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 5: could call more runs with pass tags on them. So

748
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 5: I feel like you're looking like you're about to make

749
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Speaker 5: fun of this. It's like a run. I'm about to

750
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 5: tell you. I'm about to tell you. So if you

751
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 5: put if you put a tag onto the end of

752
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 5: the play call, that says, okay, tag this if you want,

753
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 5: if Flacco wants to pull the ball and throw it,

754
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 5: you will put Jamar on a route rather than have

755
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 5: it just be a run play or just be a

756
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 5: pass player. Right, Jamar's touchdown was a tag. Really, that

757
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 5: was a run play called that Flacco decided, I don't

758
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 5: like the run as much Jamar's running in the pylon.

759
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 5: I'm gonna throw the ball out there to them. And

760
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 5: they can do that more often when they're in better

761
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 5: situations in terms of UH, in terms of down and distance,

762
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 5: or just the run games going good enough that you

763
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 5: can call those and know that you can have a

764
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 5: tag for a pass on the back end of the

765
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Speaker 5: play call, which Flacco just hears and just belts it

766
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 5: out and decides to make the play, which is another

767
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 5: kind of kudos to.

768
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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco moment there past tags, pastags.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's what I'm calling them. I mean that's

770
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Speaker 5: what that's how it was referenced by pitchy pasts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're good, all right. I got a problem with that.

772
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, good, But I know I didn't want to

773
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 5: turn on a thing or it turns into like three

774
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Speaker 5: years of you making fun of run fits.

775
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: Oh, that's gonna be more than three years. But we're

776
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: going on three years. That's that's that's gonna be on.

777
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Speaker 2: I haven't heard about run fits. You probably will, Oh,

778
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Speaker 2: I'm I'm sure. Yeah, as long as the composition of

779
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: the defense reins run fits, crack or place, that's a

780
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: good one.

781
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 4: All Right, you and Charlie can go talk about that.

782
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Speaker 4: Thank you as always. We'll see you next week. Read

783
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Speaker 4: Paul Danner Junior at the Athletic dot com. You could

784
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Speaker 4: get the podcast The Growler, as we say where you

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Speaker 4: get your podcasts.

786
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Speaker 2: I'm on it today, Felic. I hadn't been on in

787
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Speaker 2: a while.

788
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Speaker 5: It happen a while.

789
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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I haven't back in the routine. We even

790
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Speaker 2: talked about aliens.

791
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Speaker 4: We did, we did which we're going to talk about

792
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Speaker 4: a lot more from that documentary.

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Speaker 2: Airs.

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Speaker 4: Follow Paul on Twitter at lo no at Paul Danner Junior.

795
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's me God. Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Seven away from four o'clock.

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Speaker 2: A lot of fun. By the way, that game last

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Speaker 2: night was terrific.

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00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 4: I was rooting for Seattle, but I like George Springer

821
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 4: hit the big three run homer last night.

822
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Speaker 2: Blue Jays and Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: Beginning on Friday, the MLS Cup playoffs set to begin.

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Speaker 4: in game one of their best of three series, with

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Speaker 4: Game two of that series being next weekend in Columbus.

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Speaker 2: You want to watch it, you could watch it here.

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Speaker 4: College football, Pro football, MLS, the World Series. You know,

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Speaker 4: I bet you they'll show Nicks Calves tomorrow as well,

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Speaker 4: game one of a championship season for the New York

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Speaker 4: next We will see, we will see anyway, whatever it is,

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Speaker 2: Great time here. At Oakley Greens.

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Speaker 4: We're a few minutes away from hearing from Chris Albright,

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Speaker 4: the FC Cincinnati general manager, is going to join us

839
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Speaker 4: in a few to talk about the regular season that was.

840
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 4: I feel like this was the most the most chaos

841
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 4: that they've had in relation to the roster with injuries

842
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 4: and transfer window editions, all the stuff that happened before

843
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Speaker 4: the season started, which you know was back in February.

844
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Speaker 4: And so we'll chat with Chris here in just a

845
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Speaker 4: few minutes. Of f C Cincinnati going into the Eastern

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Speaker 4: Conference playoffs as the two seed. Our guy Sean Sayatt

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Speaker 4: is going to join us coming up at five twenty

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Speaker 4: Stats and Scheme newsletter. We'll get to some Bengals, Bengals

849
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 4: and Jets. I heard during the top of hour update

850
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Speaker 4: Tyrod Taylor. We're gonna have a game between Joe Flacco

851
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 4: and Tyrod Taylor in twenty twenty five. That was not

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Speaker 4: on my Bengals Bengo card before the season began. Former teammates,

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Speaker 4: Former teammate, sure, exactly right, Thank you, Drew. By the way,

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Speaker 4: chances are you know this by now, But yesterday we

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Speaker 4: did the Tony and Mo Football Show, and Tony is

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Speaker 4: back back hosting since three sixty from noon to three

857
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Speaker 4: back with Me on Mondays. If you missed yesterday, you

858
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Speaker 4: can go find it on the iHeartRadio app or the

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Speaker 4: podcast page of ESPN fifteen thirty dot com. I think

860
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 4: that was interesting. One of the things we talked about

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Speaker 4: yesterday was, you know, the Bengals ran the ball effectively,

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Speaker 4: which they hadn't done all season long, and the offensive

863
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 4: line looked better, which typically isn't the case, in large

864
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Speaker 4: part because Joe Flacco got rid of the ball quickly.

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Speaker 4: They kind of ran the offense differently with him under center.

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Speaker 4: And you know, Tony and I were talking about are

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Speaker 4: there concepts that they can mesh with how Joe Burrow

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Speaker 4: wants to play, or are there things that Joe Burrow

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Speaker 4: can kind of borrow from Joe Flacco. Like, at the

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Speaker 4: end of the day, the Bengals have had a hard

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Speaker 4: time keeping Joe Burrow healthy and upright. I think if

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Speaker 4: you're as signing blame, that's really more about the offensive

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Speaker 4: line than anything else. But he has played in this

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Speaker 4: league for a long time. One of the reasons why

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Speaker 4: he has played for as long as he has is

876
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 4: he's good at keeping himself out of harm's way. I

877
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 4: think there is a sharp difference between blaming Joe Burrow

878
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 4: for him getting hurt and at least acknowledging that maybe

879
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 4: there are things he can do better or do differently

880
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 4: to ensure his health. And Tony and I were talking

881
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 4: about that yesterday, Like, what do those conversations sound like

882
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 4: with Joe Burrow. I give Joe Burrow an insane amount

883
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 4: of benefit of the doubt for being smart, for being

884
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 4: open minded, for understanding his value to the team, for

885
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 4: having two working eyes. I don't know how you watch

886
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco and not come away with some appreciation for

887
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 4: what he has been able to do with your wide receivers,

888
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 4: how fluid the offense looked, and the way that he

889
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 4: played that allowed the Bengals to run the ball more

890
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 4: effectively and play in a way that kept him upright

891
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 4: against the Pittsburgh Steelers, a team that has a great

892
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 4: collection of pass.

893
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 2: Rushers, Like I don't worry so much about that.

894
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 4: Now you could say, well, you know, these are things

895
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 4: that Joe Burrow should have gotten all along. Sometimes you

896
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 4: have to see things right in front of you before

897
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 4: you understand how they work. I don't know if that's

898
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 4: the best way to put it. But I do think

899
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 4: there's something to Joe being open minded enough to see

900
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 4: how Joe Flacco has played in what is supposed to

901
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 4: be his offense with guys that are supposed to be

902
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 4: his wide receivers and grasp that maybe he needs to

903
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 4: do things a little bit more in line with the

904
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 4: way that Joe Flacco has been doing them. One of

905
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 4: the themes we touched on last week was the Bengals

906
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 4: benched Logan Wilson, and my very initial take on it was, huh,

907
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: I'm not sure I understand that, And then, you know, kind.

908
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: Of my.

909
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 4: Thinking evolved to the point that we even talked about

910
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 4: this on this show last Wednesday.

911
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 2: You know what, why not? Why not try something?

912
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 4: The Bengals way of doing things has typically been to

913
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 4: let the status quo remain right. The NFL drafts now

914
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 4: like you got to get instant impact from players, talked

915
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 4: about that so much with Shamar Stewart. This is no

916
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 4: longer really a league where you're drafting guys and projecting

917
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 4: them three four years out like you need almost instant dividends.

918
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 2: And so I was okay with.

919
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 4: What they did specifically as it relates to Barrett Carter

920
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 4: and Logan Wilson Number one, not like Logan was making

921
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 4: a ton of plays. Number two, I think there could

922
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 4: be some long term benefit to allowing a guy like

923
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 4: Barrett Carter to make mistakes and gain experience here in October,

924
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 4: and maybe that would have come at the expense of

925
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 4: the Bengals winning that game on Thursday, had Joe Flacco

926
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 4: not done his heroics, had Jamar Chase and t Higgins

927
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 4: not been awesome. But here's what I wonder about that,

928
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 4: is there some sort of year one payoff to Barrett

929
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 4: Carter getting a chance to play that ultimately might prove

930
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 4: to have more upside than with.

931
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: Logan Wilson playing.

932
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 4: And like everybody loves Logan Wilson, and he's handled it

933
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 4: like a pro, and he played forty six percent of

934
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 4: the snaps on Thursday, so it's not like he totally benched.

935
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 4: And you know, there are were way too many mistackles,

936
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: but they were so bad, like they were so wretched defensively.

937
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: Number One, you gotta try something.

938
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 4: Number two. If in the course of trying something, somebody

939
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 4: can gain experience, and then your defense can benefit from

940
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 4: the payoff of that.

941
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: Experience. Sign me up for it. Thirteen after four.

942
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 4: We're gonna step aside a little bit early because we

943
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 4: do want to try to run down Chris Albright. I

944
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 4: don't want to get caught in no man's land where

945
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 4: he calls. But we're about to break and then it's

946
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 4: weird and it's clunky, and Tarren gets mad and Drew.

947
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: Gets mad, and you get mad.

948
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 4: I'm here to make everybody happy, so we'll try to

949
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 4: track down Chris and if not, you know what, he

950
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 4: doesn't get a chance to come on our show his loss,

951
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 4: but Tree's quite busy.

952
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: We'll see if we can run him down.

953
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 4: Also, later on this hour you'll hear from Scott Sanderfield

954
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 4: and our guy Sean Saya the Stats and Scheme podcast

955
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 4: coming up in the five o'clock hour as well. On

956
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

957
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 12: Station, This is Football in the Natti, brought to you

958
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 12: by Modern Office Methods. On ESPN fifteen thirty, the official

959
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 12: home of the Cincinnati Bengals'.

960
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 4: Eighteen minutes at four o'clock, This is ESDN fifteen thirty

961
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 4: on Moegger. We're at Oakley Greens Were by the way,

962
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 4: they've got Trunk or Treat coming up, which.

963
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 2: Trigger treating is one.

964
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 4: Thing like you're knocking on people's door, that sort of thing.

965
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 4: Trunk or Treat, though, is gonna happen on October the

966
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 4: twenty ninth, be which is a Wednesday from five to eight,

967
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 4: absolutely free for kids twelve and under. All of the

968
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 4: cabanas are gonna have a Halloween makeover. They've already got

969
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 4: a bunch of Halloween decorations up and you bring the kids,

970
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 4: you get some candy, you can have an adult beverage,

971
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 4: you can get in.

972
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: Some mini golf.

973
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 4: And that is going to be on Wednesday, the twenty ninth,

974
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 4: which is it's a week from tomorrow from five to

975
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 4: eight Oakley Greens Trunk or Treat.

976
00:47:59,239 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: You cannot beat that.

977
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 4: You also cannot beat my stupidity, because you know, it's hard.

978
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 4: It's hard to read. You know, I'm a product of

979
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 4: Kentucky Public Schools and the University of Dayton, and so

980
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 4: it's reading is hard for me. So I you know,

981
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 4: I have an email here from a guy by the

982
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 4: name of John horland or at FC Cincinnati, where we

983
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 4: had been going back and forth on getting Chris Albright

984
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 4: on the show.

985
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: The GM of FC Cincinnati.

986
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 4: Obviously, the playoffs are about to begin, and the agreed

987
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 4: upon date was Thursday, and yet I thought it was Tuesday,

988
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 4: and it very clearly states in the email Thursday, like

989
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 4: there's no ambiguity there, the Thursday at four h five.

990
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 2: Me not knowing really anything specifically how to read.

991
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 4: All day long, I've been walking around thinking, well, today

992
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 4: we're going to talk with Chris Albright.

993
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, We're supposed to have him

994
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 2: on Thursday.

995
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 4: Except me, genius, I'm off on Thursday, so that's gonna

996
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 4: be awesome.

997
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: We will try to get Chris on the show. Perhaps

998
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: tomorrow we will see again.

999
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 4: I'd love to blame somebody else. I'd love to pin

1000
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 4: this song. I'd love to blame Tarran. Tarran is no,

1001
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 4: Arran doesn't screw up me. This guy right here, an

1002
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 4: adult who can't tell the difference between Tuesday and Thursday.

1003
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 4: You'll hear Scott Saderfield coming up in just a few minutes.

1004
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 4: You see is six and one getting set to host

1005
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 4: Taylor on Saturday. The Bearcats went to Oklahoma State and

1006
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 4: I think did what they were supposed to do, which

1007
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 4: is blow out a bad team. Now, there were some

1008
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 4: hairy moments in the second half of that game, and

1009
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 4: Cincinnati's defense wasn't top to bottom grade. It was kind

1010
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 4: of a quintessential bend but don't break game. They got

1011
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 4: a turnover on downs inside the ten. They got a

1012
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 4: one hundred yard interception return by Matthew McDoom, but they

1013
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 4: checked the box. The Bearcats are Bowl eligible. They'll play

1014
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 4: in a bowl game this year, which is terrific. You're

1015
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 4: gonna hear Scott Sadafield talk about this in just a bit.

1016
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 4: You see is better off right now than they were

1017
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 4: one year ago. Year ago, they were five and two

1018
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 4: and it kind of felt like, all right, maybe they're

1019
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: about to take off. And they lost five straight games.

1020
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 2: I don't know that they're gonna win out.

1021
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 4: I don't know that they're gonna win enough games to

1022
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 4: play in the Big Twelve Conference championship game. I do

1023
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 4: not think such a collapse is in the offing this year.

1024
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 4: And this is something I've hit on. I think when

1025
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 4: you See moved to the Big Twelve, there was a

1026
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 4: reluctance to acknowledge that they had some work to do

1027
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 4: just to improve the physicality.

1028
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: And size and speed on the roster.

1029
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 4: Now in twenty twenty one. Obviously they had a lot

1030
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 4: of those things. They had Sauce Gardner, and they had

1031
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 4: Desmond Ritter, and they had Trey Tucker, and they had

1032
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 4: Brian Cook and Josh Wiley like that NFL dudes. But

1033
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 4: I think acknowledging that there was a reluctance to admit

1034
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 4: that the level of just physicality and speed it was

1035
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 4: going to take him a little while to catch up

1036
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 4: with the rest of the Big Twelve. The perfect example

1037
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 4: of that, to me was the last time they had

1038
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 4: played Oklahoma State two years ago, when Ali Gordon, their

1039
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 4: running back, ran for two hundred and seventy seven yards.

1040
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 4: And I remember that night thinking, this ain't the American

1041
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 4: Athletic Conference anymore. This is Big twelve football. And that

1042
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 4: team that year at Oklahoma State wasn't exactly like a

1043
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 4: top ten team. And so, yeah, you know, fair to

1044
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 4: wonder if Scott Sadderfield was the right guy, and fair

1045
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 4: this year to wonder if he and his team can

1046
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 4: avoid a collapse similar to what we saw last year.

1047
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 4: But I feel like they have dramatically improved this year's size, speed, athleticism,

1048
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 4: physicality to match what they encounter in the Big twelve.

1049
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 4: Like I, Tony and I talked about this a little

1050
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 4: bit yesterday as well. I don't know that there is

1051
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 4: a glaring hole on the team. There are weaknesses that

1052
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 4: defense does bend a little bit more than I think

1053
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 4: you would like. They've got to get Dante Corleone on

1054
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 4: the field more when he is absent. There are gonna

1055
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 4: be some teams they played that I'm not sure you

1056
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 4: can have three down linemen. They've done a really good

1057
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 4: job of winning in the margins on special teams, but

1058
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 4: you know what happens if that evaporates that sort of thing.

1059
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 4: But I look at them offensively, a very good offensive line,

1060
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 4: a quarterback who doesn't make mistakes. I mean, Brendan soars

1061
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 4: me in. That offense has turned it over one time

1062
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 4: over their last five games. Good two headed running attack,

1063
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 4: NFL caliber tight end, and guys on the outside who

1064
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 4: can run, who can run and make plays with the ball.

1065
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 4: I don't know now, They're not hanging fifty five points

1066
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 4: on people, But I thought what you saw on Saturday

1067
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 4: was just a real good example of an offense that's

1068
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 4: well put together. Good play design, and I think sometimes

1069
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 4: play calling is confused for play design. There was some

1070
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 4: creativity there, especially around the goal line, and just an

1071
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 4: offense that I think week to week is becoming increasingly

1072
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 4: difficult to prepare for. And so I just I think

1073
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 4: top to bottom, they just have a better team. You know,

1074
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 4: last year, if you think of the second half of

1075
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 4: the season, the offense went in a shell, and I

1076
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 4: thought Brendan Sorosby was part of that. It felt to

1077
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 4: me like he got a little gun shy. He's admitted

1078
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 4: as much on this show. But also they didn't have

1079
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 4: a lot of downfield playmakers. They didn't have a lot

1080
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 4: of guys who were just beating anybody one on one,

1081
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 4: didn't have a lot of guys who were getting open,

1082
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 4: didn't have anybody that you thought could give you an

1083
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 4: explosive play. On third and sixteen on Saturday, they got

1084
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 4: an explosive play, a great catch and throw to Jeff

1085
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 4: Caldwell that kind of helped break the game open because

1086
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 4: they were down, they were up by eleven at that point.

1087
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 4: I just I think that's the sort of play they

1088
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 4: can't dial up last year. And you don't want to

1089
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 4: make too much of beating Oklahoma State or having offensive

1090
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 4: success against Oklahoma State, because that team is mostly wretched.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know that it's it's totally apples to

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Speaker 4: apples to compare last year's team that totally melted down

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Speaker 4: to this year's team that stands. You know, it's a

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Speaker 4: game better than last year. But a year ago we

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Speaker 4: were wondering can they really be a factor in the

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Speaker 4: Big twelve race? This year it's kind of the same thing,

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Speaker 4: and I feel like the answer is yes. I feel

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Speaker 4: like the answer is yes. And you know, if the

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Speaker 4: answer ends up being yes, then John Cunningham and Scott

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Speaker 4: Sanderfield are going to have a chance to do what

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Speaker 4: a lot of people have not given them much of

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Speaker 4: a chance of doing, which is talk about how he

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Speaker 4: was the right guy.

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Speaker 2: Like it's trending in that direction.

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Speaker 4: And this is admittedly not the Big Ten, it's not

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Speaker 4: the SEC The Big twelve top to bottom is maybe

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Speaker 4: not nearly as good. Although I think UC's schedule here

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Speaker 4: in the second half is gonna prove to be difficult.

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Speaker 4: I don't think this game against Baylor is gonna be

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Speaker 4: easy by any stretch. They still have to go to Utah,

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Speaker 4: which is gonna be tough. They still have to play

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Speaker 4: BYU who's really good. They still have to go on

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Speaker 4: the road and take on TCU, like there are some

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Speaker 4: major challenges.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 4: I read today Heather Danich's Bubblewatch on ESPN dot Com

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Speaker 4: at Cincinnati with like the twenty sixth most difficult remaining

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Speaker 4: schedule in college football, which isn't you know there's obviously

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Speaker 4: twenty five I guess more difficult, but still pretty significant.

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 4: I think I think this team has, legitimately, though, got

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Speaker 4: a chance to compete for a Big twelve championship, and man,

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Speaker 4: if they do, there's gonna be a lot of folks

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Speaker 4: who oh Scott Saderfield and John Cunningham and apology because

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Speaker 4: I think he was often talked about this offseason as

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Speaker 4: almost a lame duck, and I don't know if that's

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Speaker 4: the case anymore.

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Speaker 2: Now I know what a lot of folks are gonna do.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna go, Okay, well, they're not gonna have to,

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Speaker 4: you know, pay for a Scott Saderfield buy out, so

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Speaker 4: maybe that got to do that with Wes Miller, and

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Speaker 4: Wes is gonna be in trouble if the Bearcat basketball

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Speaker 4: team can't get to the NCAA tournament. And all of

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Speaker 4: that is fair, but I don't know, man, I just

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Speaker 4: I look at how the team is constructed, and again

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Speaker 4: they've got to get Corleone playing more snaps than he is.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that there is a glaring hole. There

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Speaker 4: are areas where they could be stronger. I wish they

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Speaker 4: had bigger corners. I wish they had more corners. I

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Speaker 4: don't know that there is a glaring hole. If there is,

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Speaker 4: Baylor might reveal it on Saturday and change the conversation.

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Speaker 4: But through seven games, I don't think we've seen one,

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Speaker 4: and I do think we've seen a team with just

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Speaker 4: more big.

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Speaker 2: Twelve caliber athletes.

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Speaker 4: We are free until five twenty, when Sean Saya joins us.

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Speaker 4: We haven't had a chance to take phone calls, you know,

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Speaker 4: last week. I did the pregame show with Lance and

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Speaker 4: Rocky on Thursday, didn't have a show on Friday, Tony

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Speaker 4: and Mo Football show yesterday, So we haven't had much

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Speaker 4: of a chance to work people in five point three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 4: fifteen thirty. Not that I've done a very good job

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Speaker 4: of setting up any topics, because I can't tell the

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Speaker 4: difference between Tuesday and Thursday and an email. But we

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Speaker 4: do have room for your phone calls at five one, three,

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Speaker 4: seven four nine, fifteen thirty and eight six six seven

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Speaker 4: oh two three seven seven six. I'm gonna answer a

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Speaker 4: question about Zach Taylor. I got three weeks ago coming

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Speaker 4: up in just about fifteen minutes on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 4: I mentioned, I don't know that Aaron Glenn has officially

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Speaker 4: named Tyrod Taylor as the starting quarterback on Sunday. I

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Speaker 4: will tell you that the owner there, Woody Johnson, stands

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Speaker 4: behind his coach, who's ozho and seven. You know he

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Speaker 4: used to be the defensive coordinator. The Lions had a

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Speaker 4: very successful playing career Aaron Aaron Glenn did with the

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Speaker 4: New York Jets. But the owner, Woody Johnson, decided to

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Speaker 4: come out and give Aaron Glenn a vote of confidence

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Speaker 4: and then took Justin Fields and totally threw him unto

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Speaker 4: the bus. And by the way, how can you blame him?

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Speaker 4: But Justin Fields has been to Justin Fields. It didn't

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Speaker 4: work out in Chicago, didn't really take in Pittsburgh so far,

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Speaker 4: hasn't taken in New York either. We'll see how many

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Speaker 4: more opportunities he gets. But the game on Sunday anyway,

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Speaker 4: one o'clock live on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Pre game coverage starts at nine a m.

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Speaker 4: The Scott Saderfield Radio Show is tonight at eight o'clock.

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Speaker 2: You can catch that live on seven.

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Speaker 4: Hundred WLW, and I believe that is it for the

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Speaker 4: local sports headlines five point three, seven four nine, fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: We will do this.

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Speaker 4: I was talking about the Bearcats before we play some

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Speaker 4: exciting Scott saderfield audio for you. Every single day, Dante

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Speaker 4: Corleone didn't play a ton against Oklahoma State, and there

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Speaker 4: is a marked difference between when he is on the

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Speaker 4: field and when he is not. Here's Dante's coach talking

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Speaker 4: about the Godfather's playing.

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Speaker 13: Time China working back in and obviously he's not one

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Speaker 13: hundred percent. I think if you see it, watch the film,

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Speaker 13: you can see that. And but but obviously having his

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Speaker 13: presence out there and being around our guys is huge

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Speaker 13: for us.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 13: So but but yeah, I mean I think if you

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Speaker 13: even go back, I mean, he's not probably not playing

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Speaker 13: more than thirty five snaps anyway. So normally we rotate

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Speaker 13: a lot of guys up front. We're gonna rotate a

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Speaker 13: lot of linebackers. I mean, you know, anytime there's a

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Speaker 13: change for offensive personnel, then we're going to rotate.

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Speaker 2: So so we're always going to continue to do that.

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Speaker 13: But but hopefully each and every week as we go

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Speaker 13: through the remainder of this season that that hopefully's healing up,

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Speaker 13: you know, better and better.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Scott Siderfield.

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Speaker 4: Now, what about this year's team compared to last year's team.

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Speaker 5: Here's the coach.

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Speaker 13: If there's one key difference, I think, I just think

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Speaker 13: we're playing really good as a team. I think it's

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Speaker 13: not it's not one side of the ball. It's not

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Speaker 13: it's not one. It's not dispecial. I think all three

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Speaker 13: units have made some great plays for us this year.

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Speaker 13: I think we're we're we have each other's back if

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Speaker 13: one if one side needs to pick me up, then

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Speaker 13: maybe the other side I'll pick him up. Special team

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Speaker 13: wise has been very solid this year as well. So

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Speaker 13: to me, it's just great team play. We talk about

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Speaker 13: playing clean. We've been a much cleaner team this year,

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Speaker 13: you know, and I think that's showing up in the

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Speaker 13: way we're playing on Saturdays.

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Speaker 4: Scott Saderfield earlier today meeting with the media. More of

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Speaker 4: that on the appropriately titled Scott Saderfield Radio show on

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Speaker 4: here in Oakley, which is a makes sense why they

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Speaker 4: great place for Bengo on Mondays or Thursdays, and an

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Speaker 2: Oakley Greens. Come check it out.

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Speaker 4: I was asked two weeks ago about Zach Taylor and

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Speaker 4: the question, and I don't remember it was a caller

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Speaker 4: to this show. U asked, give me an example of

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Speaker 4: where he has given them an advantage, and I'm paraphrasing

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Speaker 4: the caller here, give me an example of where he

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Speaker 4: has given the Bengals a tactical advantage, motivational advantage, or

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Speaker 4: where he has just out coached the guy and the

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Speaker 4: other team. Well, Zach Taylor had a quarterback show up

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Speaker 4: in Cincinnati two weeks ago. Tonight, he played capably against

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Speaker 4: the Green Bay Packers and he won a game that

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Speaker 4: they had to have against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now I

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Speaker 4: have become a huge Joe Flacco fan.

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Speaker 2: Number One.

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Speaker 4: If you're a quarterback and you beat the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 4: You'll never have to pay for another beer. As long

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Speaker 4: as I'm around, Not that Joe Flacco can't afford a beer.

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Speaker 2: Number two.

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Speaker 4: The professionalism, the humor, the just sort of outwardly appreciating

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Speaker 4: the absurdity and silliness of the situation, and he found

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Speaker 4: himself in like, I think there's something kind of admirable

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Speaker 4: about that. And yeah, man, you acquired Joe Flacco because

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Speaker 4: he could be a quick study. You acquired Joe Flacco

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Speaker 4: because there was nothing that any defense is going to

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Speaker 4: do that he hasn't seen before. You acquired him because

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Speaker 4: he could execute the basics, which is, hey, Jamar Chase

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Speaker 4: is open, we should probably throw it to him. His

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Speaker 4: experience is a great asset. But I also think there's

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Speaker 4: something about amid all this chaos, right, There's the way

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Speaker 4: those last three games with Jake Browning played out. There's

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Speaker 4: making a change at quarterback. There's having to basically shorten

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Speaker 4: the week before a Green Bay because you change quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: There's then coming back after a short week and playing

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Speaker 4: what amounted to a must win game against your most

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Speaker 4: hated rival and a very physical football team, although they

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Speaker 4: weren't that physical against Cincinnati in a really good and

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Speaker 4: experienced defense, Like that's decent coaching. I'm not here to

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Speaker 4: say that Zach Taylor doesn't deserve whatever amount of criticism

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Speaker 4: that comes his way for any number of things. But

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Speaker 4: the one thing we've tried to do here, because it's

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Speaker 4: easy to criticize Zach, we've done it. I'm not yet

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Speaker 4: of the belief that he should continue to call plays,

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Speaker 4: But one thing we've tried to do here is point

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Speaker 4: out areas where I think it is the areas that

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Speaker 4: have been reflective of really good coaching. And if you've

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Speaker 4: listened to this show, you've heard me do this before.

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Speaker 4: But like, I think that the run to the super

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Speaker 4: Bowl in twenty twenty one was really good coaching because

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Speaker 4: you had to design game plans around an offensive line

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Speaker 4: that was terrible.

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Speaker 2: That couldn't have been easy.

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Speaker 4: I think Joe Burrow playing functionally well in his first

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Speaker 4: ever NFL game, Like, that's Joe's talent and is preparation,

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Speaker 4: but Zach Taylor had to teach him the offense while

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Speaker 4: he was still sitting in a Athens, Ohio. Because of

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Speaker 4: the pandemic, they didn't have preseason games, they didn't have

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Speaker 4: a normal training camp. Justin Herbert didn't start that first

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Speaker 4: game in fact, it was Tyrod Taylor for the LA Chargers.

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Speaker 4: I think getting Jake Browning up to speed in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty three amid some very rough circumstances, Jake han never

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Speaker 4: taken really a meaningful snap in the NFL, and Zach

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Speaker 4: and the offensive staff designing game plans and just figuring

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Speaker 4: out a way to make it work to the extent

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Speaker 4: that they did. I think that's good coaching. I think

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Speaker 4: we've seen some good coaching over the last week and

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Speaker 4: a half. Again, this isn't like a full and complete

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Speaker 4: public endorsement saying that you know, Zach should keep his

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Speaker 4: job for the next twelve years, like we'll see, we'll see,

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Speaker 4: and it doesn't mean that he is immune to criticisms.

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Speaker 4: Within the last two games the Bengals have played, I

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Speaker 4: frankly thought the game plan against Green Bay was a

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Speaker 4: little bit too conservative, But it's it's been something to

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Speaker 4: watch now.

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Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of stuff going on. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot of working parts.

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Speaker 4: To get a quarterback on Tuesday night and then within

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Speaker 4: nine days have to use him twice, start him on

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Speaker 4: the road, start him in primetime against the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 4: win the football game, have the offense look as well

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Speaker 4: put together as it was. Like, I don't know, man,

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Speaker 4: the coaching's gonna have some hand in that. Coaching's gonna

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Speaker 4: play some role in that playing out the way it did.

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Speaker 4: And so, like I was asked that question two weeks ago,

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Speaker 4: at that point, the Bengals were bottoming out, Zach was

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Speaker 4: taking some heat. Zach took heat on this show. Whatever

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Speaker 4: criticism he got, he deserved. But all right, this playing

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Speaker 4: out the way it did, Yes, it's mostly Joe Flacco

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Speaker 4: being a quick study, being experienced, having a wealth of knowledge,

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Speaker 4: understanding how to play the position, having elite dudes to

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Speaker 4: throw to. But amid all the different things that have

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Speaker 4: been swirling, to have the team look as well put

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Speaker 4: together as it has, and to have the offense function

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Speaker 4: the way it did, and to have the quarterback look

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Speaker 4: as prepared as he looked in both of those games,

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Speaker 4: you cannot convince me that coaching doesn't play at least

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Speaker 4: a little bit of a role.

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Speaker 2: And so, since I was asked the question, it took

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Speaker 2: me two weeks.

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Speaker 4: I finally have an answer, or at least an updated answer,

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Speaker 4: seventeen away from five o'clock five point three, seven four nine,

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Speaker 2: Taylor brit was a healthy scratch and wasn't really cut.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: We're at Oakley Greens in Oakley here on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 4: Week broadcasts from here every single Thursday. Football lives at

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Speaker 4: Oakley Greens. Lives at Oakley Greens. You got Thursday night football.

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Speaker 4: You got Vikings and Chargers who will hopefully get rid

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Speaker 4: of those Savannah banana uniforms they were wearing on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Those are atrocious.

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Speaker 4: Look it's simple. You've got the powder Blues. Wear them

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Speaker 4: every time. We're a version of that with a powder

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Speaker 4: blue jersey or a white jersey.

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Speaker 2: Every single game. You're the Chargers.

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Speaker 4: The only good thing you've ever had going for you

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Speaker 4: are the powder blue uniforms. Don't do color rush, don't

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Speaker 4: go Savannah bananas. Just make it simple. Anyway. You could

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Speaker 4: watch that game Bengo on Thursdays or the College Slate

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01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 4: on Saturday like you want to. You want to come

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Speaker 4: to Oakley Greens and just watch college football all day.

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Speaker 4: We Virginia versus Bill Belichick. That'll be Maybe there's a

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Speaker 4: better game. Oh, Miss Oklahoma's good. My second favorite team

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Speaker 4: Indiana Indiana wal Bludgeon U C l A. I love

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Speaker 4: nothing more than when like an outsider crashes what has

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Speaker 4: always been a very sort of.

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Speaker 2: Snobby sport.

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Speaker 4: You know, college football fans, folks who like traditional college

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01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 4: football powers get really weird when somebody from the outside

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Speaker 4: comes in. I know this as a UC fan, so

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Speaker 4: I love the fact in Indiana's kind of done that.

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Speaker 4: That's a new and kickoff Alabama South Carolina BYU Iowa State,

1389
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Speaker 4: which I think is a really good game. Missouri Vandy

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati is hosting Baylor at four pm. You can watch

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Speaker 4: that game here. Oregon Wisconsin. Luke Fickle is still the

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Speaker 4: coach at Wisconsin because they probably don't have enough money

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Speaker 4: for the buy out. How could you want? And I'm

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Speaker 4: not the bitter UC guy who roots against Luke Fikele,

1395
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Speaker 4: like I'm the guy who roots for Brian Kelly. I'm

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01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 4: the guy who roots for Luke Fickele. I'm the guy

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Speaker 4: who rooted for Mark D'Antonio. I'm not sure I'm ever

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Speaker 4: gonna get myself to root for book Jones. And I'll

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Speaker 4: leave my comments about Tommy Tumberville to what they talked

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Speaker 4: on fifty five karc.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: You can watch Wisconsin play and be as non competitive

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01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 4: as they have been, just specifically in the last two

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Speaker 4: home games where they haven't scored a point, and then

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01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 4: send a letter to your fans going naw, this is

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Speaker 4: going fine, this is going great. We just need a

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Speaker 4: little bit more money. Oregon Wisconsin A and M and

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Speaker 4: LSU Kentucky after the heartbreaking loss to Texas on Saturday,

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Speaker 4: is going to host Tennessee. Any of those games sound good,

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Speaker 4: you can watch them here at Oakley Greens. You can

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Speaker 4: watch them all at Oakley Greens on top of obviously

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Speaker 4: the NFL slate. If you're not going to the Bengals

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Speaker 4: game against the Jets, you can watch it here at

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Speaker 4: Oakley Greens. And by the way, hang out outside and

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Speaker 4: play mini golf and you know, do whatever, So do that,

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Speaker 4: do that, and.

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Speaker 2: And you you won't be sorry.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about Jamar Chase coming up in the

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Speaker 4: five o'clock hour plus. Our guy Sean Sayat from the

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Speaker 4: Stats and Scheme podcast is going to be on this

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Speaker 4: show at at five point twenty today, which we're looking

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Speaker 4: forward to.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I was talking last.

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Speaker 4: Second about Zach Taylor getting Joe Flacco up to speed,

1425
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 4: and there's something to that. So I was here that

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Speaker 4: day at Oakley Greens. It was two weeks ago today

1427
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 4: when the Bengals acquired Joe Flacco. And there are very

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Speaker 4: few things that happen in life in this day and

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Speaker 4: age that elicit like genuine shock for me seeing that

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01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 4: the Bengals traded for Joe Flacco seeing that the Bengals

1431
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Speaker 4: did a deal with the Cleveland Browns like legitimate shock.

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Speaker 2: Legitimate shock, and.

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Speaker 4: Initially out came the jokes about his age and about

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Speaker 4: the fact that he can move, and the poor marriage

1435
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Speaker 4: with his immobility and the defensive line or the offensive line,

1436
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 4: all of which very fair and valid concerns. Duke Tobin

1437
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 4: may have gotten it right, Like Jameis Winston would have

1438
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 4: been fun. Do we know that Jameis Winston would have

1439
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:57,520
Speaker 4: brought with him the level of professionalism and preparedness required

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01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 4: to play that first game? And again, like I think

1441
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Speaker 4: they won the game on Thursday in part because of

1442
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Speaker 4: how Joe Flacco played on Sunday against green Bay. Like

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Speaker 4: I think the Seeds were planted for success in that

1444
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 4: first game against green Bay. Maybe Jameis Winston would have

1445
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 4: been awesome.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson, I don't know that Russell Wilson's

1448
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 4: had a Hall of Fame career. It felt for years

1449
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 4: like he was on that trajectory. The second half of

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01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 4: it hasn't been so great. How much of that da

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Speaker 4: it takes away from what he did over the first

1452
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Speaker 4: half of his career. Maybe Russell Wilson shows up and

1453
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 4: it's just as good, if not better. But I think

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01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 4: with Joe Flacca, what you were looking for is exactly

1455
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Speaker 4: what we've seen play out. A level of experience, professionalism, preparedness,

1456
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 4: understanding how to be a quick study that has mattered

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Speaker 4: more than whatever physical limitations there are, and the physical

1458
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 4: limitations are obviously don't include his throwing arm.

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01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: His throwing arm is still really, really good.

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Speaker 4: Like, this is no knock on anybody that they either

1461
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 4: thought about bringing in or didn't think about bringing in

1462
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Speaker 4: that other people wrote about.

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Speaker 2: You were looking for a true pro. You were looking

1464
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Speaker 2: for somebody with maximum football intelligence. That's Joe Flacco like,

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Speaker 2: and that.

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Speaker 4: To me more than anything else, that first game against

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Speaker 4: Green Bay, and I hate to keep coming back to that,

1468
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 4: but that first game against Green.

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Speaker 2: Bay, it was sort of startling.

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Speaker 4: You didn't have delay game penalties, you didn't have guys

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Speaker 4: lining up incorrectly, you didn't have been too many guys

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Speaker 4: on the field, for what that's worth. You didn't have

1473
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Speaker 4: then taking forever to get the play in for a

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Speaker 4: dude who was playing on Sunday that they traded for

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Speaker 4: on Tuesday, Like you were looking for a level of

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Speaker 4: professionalism and preparedness and intellect that.

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Speaker 2: Was more important.

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Speaker 4: Than you know, having a skill set that's you know,

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Speaker 4: closer to its prime.

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Speaker 2: Like there's no knock on anybody.

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Speaker 4: Like Russell Wilson's had a good career, Jamis Winston's had

1482
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Speaker 4: an interesting career, and you know, kind of an interesting guy.

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Speaker 4: And I think that that experience would have been a

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Speaker 4: lot of fun. I don't think Kirk Cousins was ever realistic,

1485
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 4: but you were. I think what you were looking for

1486
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 4: from Joe Flacco is exactly what you have gotten. Like

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01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 4: he's not always going to take a snap and run

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01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 4: for eleven yards like he did in the fourth quarter

1489
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 4: on Thursday, probably not always going to have a connection

1490
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Speaker 4: with Jamar Chase that results in sixteen catches for one

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Speaker 4: hundred and sixty yards. But what you knew is this

1492
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 4: guy can learn this offense quickly. He'll understand what he

1493
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 4: has to do to be ready to play, and that

1494
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 4: will give his team a chance. And frankly, in the

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Speaker 4: second half against Green Bay it did. Now the defense

1496
01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 4: coughed it away, and against Pittsburgh the defense nearly called away.

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Speaker 4: But Duke Tobin identified those straits, and again, like Man,

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Speaker 4: I've been as critical of Duke Tobin as anybody for

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Speaker 4: the way he's built his team, for the way he

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Speaker 4: ignored the defensive issues, for the continued inability to have

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Speaker 4: a really good offensive line. But when it came to

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Speaker 4: solving this problem, number one, they didn't wait. Number two,

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Speaker 4: they didn't wait to install Joe as the starting quarterback immediately,

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Speaker 4: and number three they got the right guy. And number four,

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Speaker 4: what they were looking for is played itself out in

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Speaker 4: these two games. Four minutes away from five o'clock, he

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Speaker 4: has had help. We'll talk about the help coming up

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Speaker 4: after five o'clock, and our guy Sean Saya from the

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Speaker 4: Stats and Scheme podcast will join us as well.

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Speaker 2: On ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: It's four minutes after five o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: to thirty. M Bowegger.

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Speaker 4: We are broadcasting today from Oakley Greens. It's a Tuesday,

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Speaker 4: and this is why we love Tuesdays. Nice little like

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Speaker 4: got TVs, they've got cabanas, and they will accept you

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Speaker 4: here no matter if you're the sort of person who

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Speaker 4: puts their shorts on backwards at the gym, like.

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Speaker 2: My guy drew, or if you dress normally.

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Speaker 4: You know, Clyde Drexler when he was on the Dream

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Speaker 4: Team went to a practice and he had two left

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Speaker 4: shoes on, but he couldn't. He didn't change because he

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Speaker 4: didn't want the other players to notice make fun of him.

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Speaker 4: I have a feeling when my guy here on site

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Speaker 4: drew or backwards shorts in the gym, same dynamic was

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Speaker 4: in play. Our guy, Sean Saya Stats and Skime podcast

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Speaker 4: is going to join us coming up in just about

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Speaker 4: fifteen minutes. Right now, let's chat with a man who

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Speaker 4: I'm sure is very excited over his LA Dodgers advancing

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Speaker 4: to the World Series on the heels of the greatest

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Speaker 4: game any baseball player has ever played.

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Speaker 2: Mike, Mike, You're on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 14: Groscia and Nego Groscias. Yeah, that was quite the performance,

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Speaker 14: mister o'tawni turned in. He was on his ass most

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Speaker 14: of the series up until then, but then he jump

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Speaker 14: right out in a big way, and people compare him

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Speaker 14: to Babe. They try to compare Baby Babe Ruth was

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Speaker 14: a fat, big.

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Speaker 2: But slow.

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Speaker 14: There wasn't nothing athletics about Babe Ruth, was there. I mean,

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Speaker 14: look at the pictures of him watching Ronnie. He's not

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Speaker 14: not even.

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Speaker 4: Well, you mean to tell me you mean wait, hang on,

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Speaker 4: do you mean to tell me Babe Ruth wasn't impressive.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, he might have been for that day, I guess sure.

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Speaker 2: I know he loved his great.

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Speaker 14: Athlete I don't that's just all right.

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Speaker 2: But you know what he was. He was a great

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Speaker 2: baseball player.

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Speaker 4: But no, I think in a in a single game setting,

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Speaker 4: I think it's absurd to compare anybody playing in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five to a guy who was active in nineteen

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Speaker 4: twenty five. In a single game setting. That is the

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Speaker 4: greatest performance of all time. I mean it wasn't a

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Speaker 4: Game seven, it was a Game four. The Dodgers were

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Speaker 4: gonna win that series no matter what. But to do

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Speaker 4: what he did on the mound, give up just two hits,

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Speaker 4: strikeout ten after he walked the leadoff guy in the

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Speaker 4: first inning, you could just tell he was gonna be

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Speaker 4: damn near unhittable. And then to hit three bombs like that,

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Speaker 4: I think he's the greatest show in sports right now.

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Speaker 4: I used to say about Barry Bonds, like if I'm

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Speaker 4: flip flipping around the TV and Barry Bonds is hitting,

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Speaker 4: I watch, and the same principle applies to show Heyo Tani.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, and you said it the other day, like you

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Speaker 14: said exactly what you're saying now the other day. And

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Speaker 14: one of those balls I didn't realize, but I must

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Speaker 14: have turned my head when I knew it was going out.

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Speaker 14: They said they hit it. He hit it over the roof,

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Speaker 14: and now the Dodgers stadium. I've never heard of.

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Speaker 2: That, No, I did.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, what actually happened?

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Speaker 4: It looked like it hit the roof. I didn't know

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Speaker 4: it cleared it, but it looked like it hit the roof.

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Speaker 14: Yes, and I had to be about four seventy or

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Speaker 14: something like that. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and he's.

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Speaker 14: Got he's got a sweetest swinging as Ar Champsky used

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Speaker 14: to have. I used to love Art Champsky for my rids.

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Speaker 4: Ar Champski red met and uh, I'm not sure that

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Speaker 4: I've heard anybody compare Shoodi to Art Champsky, but I'm

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Speaker 4: sure Art would be pleased to hear that.

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Speaker 14: Well, you like weird, That's what I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 14: A one more and now I want to come back

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Speaker 14: to the dog to real quick. But is there is

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Speaker 14: there a certainty that is there a certain amount of

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Speaker 14: certainty that Joe's coming back in December or is that

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Speaker 14: really up in the year.

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Speaker 11: No.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting you say that because I saw

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Speaker 4: Ian Rapaport point out that here are the number of

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Speaker 4: games that Joe could play if the best case timeline

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Speaker 4: ends up being.

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Speaker 2: What they follow.

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Speaker 4: I think and Paul and I were talking about this

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Speaker 4: off air earlier today.

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Speaker 2: There's been no update.

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Speaker 4: Now, is it a good sign that Joe is on

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Speaker 4: the sideline during games?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Right, Because when he initially suffered the injury, he wasn't cleared.

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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody knows. Joe isn't talking publicly. I

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Speaker 4: certainly believe they hope and think there's a chance that

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Speaker 4: he can come back and play by mid December. But

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Speaker 4: I don't know that it makes sense for any of

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Speaker 4: us to be targeting a specific game. I think if

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Speaker 4: we're doing that, we're just making it up or thinking

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Speaker 4: with our hearts. Like I don't know that they haven't

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Speaker 4: ruled him out, but I don't think anybody knows with

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Speaker 4: any amount of certainty when he's going to be able

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Speaker 4: to play again. It's it's still mid October. It's late ish,

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Speaker 4: it's mid ish, latesh October again, best case was mid December,

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Speaker 4: and to me, until Joe addresses the amount of physical

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Speaker 4: activity he is doing, which I don't think he's doing

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Speaker 4: much right now, I don't think it makes that much

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Speaker 4: sense to assume anything about when he comes back.

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Speaker 14: Because I remember you saying about a month, well right

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Speaker 14: after it happened, or within a week after it happened.

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Speaker 4: You.

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Speaker 11: I know you.

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Speaker 14: I know you said that. You said, I'm sorry, he's

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Speaker 14: The dryer just went off in my room. I got

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Speaker 14: a dryer and washer in my room. Now they're taking

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Speaker 14: care of me, buddy.

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Speaker 5: Nice, very good.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, the uh uh you said you doubted if Joe

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Speaker 14: at least maybe it was Tony doubted that Jill was

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Speaker 14: going to come back this year.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think I ever said that might have

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Speaker 2: been Tony.

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Speaker 4: My take was best case is rarely the most likely case,

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Speaker 4: and when he originally suffered the injury, what every expert

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Speaker 4: said was, yeah, best case is mid December, and if

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Speaker 4: that ends up being what happens, and the team can

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Speaker 4: stay afloat and they have a few games for Joe

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Speaker 4: to play. And by the way, the last two games

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Speaker 4: in the season are against not great teams in Arizona

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Speaker 4: and Cleveland, and the AFC itself isn't great. Sure, you know,

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Speaker 4: then let's go number one. They've got to figure out

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Speaker 4: a way to continue to stay afloat. This is a

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Speaker 4: team that, going into the Pittsburgh game, was pretty non

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Speaker 4: competitive for the previous fourteen quarters. I think that Bears

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Speaker 4: game is different and challenging. I think that that Patriots

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Speaker 4: game is different and challenging. I think those are two

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Speaker 4: games that when this schedule came out, you said, you

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Speaker 4: know what those are wins? I don't know anybody. I

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Speaker 4: don't know that anybody should feel that way anymore. And

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Speaker 4: so to me, the primary concern is can can you

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Speaker 4: get to over five hundred? Can you get to the

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Speaker 4: buy over five hundred? And then maybe by the time

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Speaker 4: he come out of the buy, which will be November thirteenth,

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Speaker 4: By then, is there some sort of concrete evidence to

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Speaker 4: suggest that Joe could actually get back on the field

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Speaker 4: by mid December. But again, like when I heard best

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Speaker 4: case is mid December, my thought was best case is

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Speaker 4: usually not the most likely case.

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Speaker 14: Do you think is there any possibility that if Blacko

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Speaker 14: keeps spinning it the way he did the other day

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Speaker 14: and the way he can do it, and he's very

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Speaker 14: cautious and he's very accurate, is there any way they

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Speaker 14: just slowed down Joe's coming back. Blacker is still getting

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Speaker 14: a job done in a big way.

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Speaker 2: No, I think slow.

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Speaker 4: I think the only reason the only way they would

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Speaker 4: slow Joe Burrow down is if he was putting himself

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Speaker 4: at risk of further injury. I think they should be

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Speaker 4: very okay with Joe Flacco playing if needed. But no,

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Speaker 4: I think everybody is hopeful that Joe Burrow can play

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Speaker 4: as quickly as possible.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think that the Joe.

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Speaker 4: Flacco his success again, it's it's a it's a game

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Speaker 4: and a half, right, I mean, let's yeah, let's see

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Speaker 4: what happens over the next couple of weeks. I would

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Speaker 4: find it hard to believe. I'll say this if if

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Speaker 4: they end up playing really really well and like so

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Speaker 4: well that Joe's about to come back, but they've effectively

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Speaker 4: got a playoff bought, a playoff spot wrapped up, and

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Speaker 4: and maybe you've got a little bit of wiggle room

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Speaker 4: in the regular season, and Joe is at a place

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Speaker 4: where he could benefit from one more week not playing.

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Speaker 4: Then could I see them going, you know what, Joe's

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Speaker 4: gonna start just because we've got some leeway here and

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Speaker 4: we're gonna bring Joe back the follow it is there

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Speaker 4: a scenario where that happens? I guess. But if Joe

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Speaker 4: Burrow could play, my guess is he's gonna play.

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Speaker 14: I appreciate that I didn't think about what you just

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Speaker 14: this scenario he just painted there. That was That's a

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Speaker 14: good one as usual. Real quick on the Dodgers, you know,

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Speaker 14: everybody talked about the bats and the big payroll, and everything.

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Speaker 14: But the story has been the picking staff that's gotten

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Speaker 14: healthy and the whole team's gotten healthy. But look at

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Speaker 14: that starting rotation. In the first ten games, they have

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Speaker 14: a one point four to zero era. Now broke a record.

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Speaker 14: Yalmamoto pitched the first complete game since Berlander in twenty

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Speaker 14: seventeen and uh in Glasgow. So one point four ten

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Speaker 14: games really good. And then Sasaki the other fifth starter

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Speaker 14: who got hurt and they brought ended up bringing him

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Speaker 14: out of bulk and look at him. His ERA is

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Speaker 14: one point two to nine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you've got a Hall of Fame charting pitches. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean you've got Clayton Kershall charting pitches. Blake Snell

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Speaker 4: in the postseason has been unbelievable. What he didn't want

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Speaker 4: to me. That was the best pitch game of the

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Speaker 4: postseason by any team so far. And then you go

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Speaker 4: from him to Yamamoto, who could throw six pitches, all

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Speaker 4: six for strikes. Glass now, who's just a physical freak

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Speaker 4: because of his sheer size, looks intimidating as hell, and

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Speaker 4: that doesn't take into account his stuff. And then there's show,

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Speaker 4: Hey Otani, it's I don't know, I know that the Dodgers'

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Speaker 4: bullpen has been problematic throughout the course of the season.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how the Blue Jays with a stacked offense,

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Speaker 4: I don't know how they beat that team with that

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Speaker 4: rotation four times.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, because their pitchers. It's kind of like this was there.

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Speaker 14: I don't know where they were ranked, but I want

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Speaker 14: to say when I was keeping up with it, that

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Speaker 14: Milwaukee's pitching staff and Toronto's were about the same right

1730
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 14: around twentieth something like that. Does that sound right to you.

1731
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:04,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds about right.

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01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 4: I think what's what's interesting with Toronto is not so

1733
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 4: much the pitching part, but do they get Bob Baschett

1734
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 4: back for the series.

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Speaker 14: I thought he was playing. I thought I heard him

1736
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 14: say he was gonna play in the next game. That,

1737
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 14: of course, that makes a huge difference because if you'll

1738
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 14: remember when the Reds played Toronto, he was the only

1739
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 14: guy to get hit the ball against Bondolo or whoever

1740
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 14: it was Green or you know, I don't know, but

1741
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 14: he was the only guy that could get a hit,

1742
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 14: so he was he was.

1743
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike, thank you very much. Hope you enjoy your

1744
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 4: Dodgers in the World Series much.

1745
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 2: Be nice.

1746
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 4: He said Bashett did in the midst of the clubhouse

1747
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 4: celebration quote, I'll be ready, but you know how much

1748
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 4: is that is the euphoria of winning Game seven versus reality?

1749
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 4: We will see the series doesn't begin until Friday. It's

1750
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 4: sixteen after five o'clock. The Bengals are good now because

1751
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 4: they have Joe Flacco. Sean Sayat is good every week,

1752
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 4: he joins us Next word Oakley Greens on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 4: We're broadcasting from Oakley Greens because it's Tuesday. That's one

1769
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 4: cool thing about Tuesday. One of the others is Tuesday

1770
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 4: is when we talk with our guys. Sean Sayas from

1771
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1772
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1773
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1774
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 2: Sean, it's awesome to have you. How are you.

1775
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 6: Oh, I'm doing well, you know.

1776
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 15: I will say that it's been a bunch of weeks

1777
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 15: through this season, and by far the best moment of

1778
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:31,679
Speaker 15: the entire season was Joe Flacco's run.

1779
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 6: I can't stop thinking about it.

1780
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:36,719
Speaker 15: I was so excited to get on this call, Jess

1781
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 15: so I can relive it. I mean out of my

1782
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:41,640
Speaker 15: chair watching it, just love it.

1783
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 4: He targets Jamar Chase twenty three times. He throws a

1784
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 4: dime to t Higgins to help seal the game. He

1785
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,719
Speaker 4: makes a great throw to Andre Yoshavas and you're right.

1786
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 4: I went to bed on Thursday night thinking about Joe

1787
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 4: Flacco's run more than any other play.

1788
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 15: Unbelievable, and I thought he did a really good job

1789
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 15: of getting the ball out of his hands really really quick,

1790
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 15: and because of that, you end up getting a season

1791
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 15: low pressure percentage. So one way to help out your

1792
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 15: offensive line.

1793
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:11,679
Speaker 6: Is just get rid of that thing.

1794
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 15: I think that was really really tonsive and something I

1795
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:16,720
Speaker 15: think you can take away because it's not that we've

1796
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 15: seen it once now, right, you know.

1797
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 6: I was I think a little.

1798
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 15: Bit harsh on the Steelers offense when we talked last week.

1799
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 15: The Steelers defense really I think showed that it had

1800
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 15: a lot of shortcomings that I was glad that Flacko

1801
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 15: was able to take advantage of.

1802
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was actually going to start there because I've

1803
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 4: watched some analysis just crushed Pittsburgh for the way they

1804
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 4: played Higgins and Chase sticking Man, never switching the zone

1805
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:46,680
Speaker 4: or at least rarely switching the zone. Schematically, if you're

1806
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 4: a Steelers fan, what should you be fuming about when

1807
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 4: it comes to Thursday?

1808
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 15: There is just a kind of static nature to a

1809
01:31:56,240 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 15: Steelers defense where you've seen at times over the last

1810
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 15: few years, Hey, you're gonna throw in some more rotations

1811
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 15: to get to cover two type looks, but Joe Black

1812
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 15: clearly still just sit back there and chuck it into

1813
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 15: kind of these open zone windows. So for me, it

1814
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 15: feels like this defense it's not gonna be a schematically

1815
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 15: ahead of the game defense where you don't always have

1816
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 15: to be schematically ahead of the game. I don't want

1817
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 15: to say that you need to win on a chalkboard

1818
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 15: every time. If you're not going to, you have to

1819
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,879
Speaker 15: be better at a lot of the positions throughout the defense,

1820
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 15: and certainly at the cornerback position.

1821
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 6: It did not look like that last Thursday night offensively.

1822
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 4: Did the Bengals offensive line perform well or did Joe

1823
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 4: Flacco just mask their deficiencies?

1824
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 15: You know, I do think it was a little bit

1825
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:44,919
Speaker 15: of Flacco getting rid of the ball.

1826
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 6: So quick like that makes such a big deal.

1827
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 15: And Chase Brown, I think he had overall one hundred

1828
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 15: yards after contact, so that means that he's still being

1829
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 15: contacted kind of early after the line of scrims. I

1830
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:00,559
Speaker 15: think he forces at least like six mistap, which is

1831
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 15: a really good thing. So I don't want to say,

1832
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 15: all right, well, this this rushing performance where you have

1833
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 15: like close to the ninetieth percentile in terms of how

1834
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 15: efficient you were. I don't want to take it fully

1835
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 15: away from the offensive line. I do think though the

1836
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 15: black guy was able to help the offensive line in

1837
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 15: the past game, and Chase Brown was I mean, he

1838
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 15: had no desire to get tackled in that game.

1839
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 6: I think that really helped as well.

1840
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about that.

1841
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 4: What did they do running the football that we could

1842
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:27,560
Speaker 4: hope is sustainable.

1843
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:30,600
Speaker 15: I think that one thing they were smart about just

1844
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 15: running left like he run away from TJ. Watt so

1845
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 15: to me, so many teams have done that this year.

1846
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 15: I think that is a smart thing. Where Chase Brown,

1847
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 15: you know, he also was pretty effective running out of shotgun,

1848
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 15: which I think that is something that you know, we

1849
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 15: had talked about actually a little bit last year, just

1850
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 15: how did the running back kind of deal with playing

1851
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 15: in shotgun when you're with Joe Burrow.

1852
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 6: All the time.

1853
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 15: So I think that that is a really positive thing

1854
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 15: because you're going to keep throwing the ball to Jamar

1855
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 15: Chase if you're able to, you know, get your offensive

1856
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 15: line maybe just a little bit more comfortable in terms

1857
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 15: of those short passes. You have something in the run

1858
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 15: game and I mean that's that's a full offense. Like

1859
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 15: that is a full, full offense to be able to

1860
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 15: tack other teams.

1861
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 2: Uh.

1862
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,560
Speaker 4: Sean Sayde is with us the State the Stats and

1863
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 4: Schames newsletter. Sign up for it now sumer sports dot com.

1864
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 4: If if not for Flacco's heroics with Higgins and Chase,

1865
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 4: we're talking about another dreadful night for the defense. They've

1866
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:25,759
Speaker 4: made some changes there, right They They've decreased Logan Wilson's

1867
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 4: playing time. You're seeing more of Barrett Carter. We didn't

1868
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 4: have Drey Hendrickson. We saw more of Shamar Stewart until

1869
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 4: we stopped seeing Shamar Stewart.

1870
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 2: I just the Flacco thing is fun.

1871
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 4: I worry about how sustainable it is, not so much

1872
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 4: because of him.

1873
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 2: They just can't get stops.

1874
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 5: And I know I've asked you this a billion times,

1875
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 5: but like Al Golden is trying stuff, he's benching Cam

1876
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 5: Taylor Brick, He's trying lineup changes, and yet the results, especially.

1877
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:58,839
Speaker 4: When they need stops, are the same every single week.

1878
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 4: What is the defense some coordinator do?

1879
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 5: Now?

1880
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean I think you're hoping to play a

1881
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 15: game against the Steelers where I mean you get those

1882
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 15: two interceptions and you're just playing a variance game overall.

1883
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 6: I guess when I looked at Rogers, this success, a lot.

1884
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 15: Of it is kind of between the numbers seventeen for

1885
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 15: twenty two for one hundred and seventy yards and four

1886
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 15: touchdowns between those numbers, So attacking that kind of middle

1887
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 15: of the field area and having success where on the

1888
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 15: outside Rogers through both of us picks kind of outside

1889
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 15: that numbers areas. So it can just be a little

1890
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 15: bit of a thing where linebackers in the NFL are are.

1891
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 6: A vulnerable position. It is really really tough to play

1892
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 6: down there.

1893
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 15: But is it just a kind of a game to

1894
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 15: game basis where maybe you just keep saying, hey, go

1895
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 15: and push the wall to the outside, like we're going

1896
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:43,679
Speaker 15: to force you to make those throws.

1897
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 16: We're gonna trust at least one of our corners to

1898
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 16: make at least one play a week, and then you're

1899
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 16: kind of just living with it just because you know,

1900
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 16: from an up and down talent perspective, it's it's not

1901
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 16: to me a situation where you said, are well, you're

1902
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 16: gonna be able to win in these five places, and

1903
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 16: now you can start feeling really.

1904
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,840
Speaker 2: Comfortable Why are the Jets so bad?

1905
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 15: Oh, it's it's it's quite unfortunate, it really really is.

1906
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 15: I have friends and that in that in that building

1907
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 15: that have worked that team for a while, and it's

1908
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 15: hard to i think, come out of that this season

1909
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 15: so far with positives really at any level. The offense

1910
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 15: I think is sometimes efficient on a down to down basis.

1911
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:23,799
Speaker 15: I think you can take a little bit of positive

1912
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 15: away from some of the things you see on the

1913
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 15: offensive line, but they are They're a stick in the

1914
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 15: mud on offense. Their defense has certainly regrets from what

1915
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 15: we think of them a few years ago, and it

1916
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 15: is I think pretty clear to me that they're the

1917
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 15: worst team of league.

1918
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 6: Obviously, it's easy to say when you start the season.

1919
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 4: Oh seven, okay, So, like you know, Zach Taylor is

1920
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:46,640
Speaker 4: going to say all the things about the Jets that

1921
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 4: he should. You know, you don't overlook an opponent, you

1922
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 4: don't take one for granted. But they are zero to seven.

1923
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 4: The game is in Cincinnati. I guess Tyrod Taylor is

1924
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 4: going to play quarterback for the for the Jets at least,

1925
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 4: all signs point toward that. If if they're gonna ruin

1926
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:03,720
Speaker 4: Sunday in Cincinnati.

1927
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 2: How do they do it?

1928
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 5: Oh man?

1929
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 6: I mean, definitely a little bit of turnover luck.

1930
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 15: I think that's something that has been so far against

1931
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 15: the Jets this season, just like unfathomable kind of turnovers

1932
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:17,440
Speaker 15: happening over and over.

1933
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 6: For that unit.

1934
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 15: I think, you know, Tyra Taylor can still play. I

1935
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 15: don't want to pretend like he can't. I think it's

1936
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:25,719
Speaker 15: a real ground and pound type. Hey, we're just gonna

1937
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 15: turn out first downs on the ground against you Flacco.

1938
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 15: Maybe you know, the two games are just a little

1939
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 15: bit too magic and that.

1940
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 6: Kind of runs out.

1941
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 15: So to me, that's the path for a Jets team that.

1942
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 15: I mean, they're they're really kind of grasping that straw.

1943
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 15: Sometimes it feels like their defense is a little bit

1944
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:41,600
Speaker 15: just gonna have to just based on kind of the

1945
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 15: ideas that are happening there. So I certainly wish the

1946
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Speaker 4: that guy. Don't be you know, don't be the show

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Speaker 4: getting candy and you're taking candy from them. There's nothing

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Speaker 4: worse than than that person. Right, What is the oldest

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Speaker 4: year were when you went trick or treating? My wife

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Speaker 4: and I were talking.

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Speaker 2: About this the other day.

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Speaker 5: I think the last time I went trigger treating was ten.

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Speaker 4: I was fifteen. Wow, I realized we shouldn't trick or

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Speaker 4: treat anymore. Well, like one of our buddies wanted to

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Speaker 4: probably hang it up. I triggered treated when I was

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Speaker 4: fifteen years and I wasn't ashamed of it either. I

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Speaker 4: don't remember what I was. I just put on like

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Speaker 4: a Bengals hatter. So I don't know what I did. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: I was not ashamed of that then I kind of

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Speaker 4: am now It's so anyway, Trunk or Treat's gonna be great.

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Speaker 2: Do you think any kids will show up as Mowegger?

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Speaker 2: Why would you do that? I don't know.

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Speaker 5: You're here all the time.

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Speaker 4: But perhaps anyway, five to eight, they're gonna have all

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Speaker 4: the cabanas set up for Halloween, tons of decorations.

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Speaker 2: Your kids can load up with candy, you can have

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Speaker 2: a beer.

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Speaker 4: You can then as a family go play mini golf

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Speaker 4: and it's gonna be a blast.

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Speaker 2: And the cool thing is it's not on Halloween.

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Speaker 4: It's actually on the Wednesday before Halloween, and then you know,

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Speaker 4: you rest up on Thursday, then go after it on

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Speaker 4: Halloween and it's like having multiple Halloweens Trunk or Treat

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Speaker 2: Most regular listeners there. It is that's the point.

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Speaker 4: We love every listener to this show, but the ones

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Speaker 4: Oakley Greens are the absolute best. All Right, We have

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Speaker 4: folks waiting patiently, and I will be totally honest with you.

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Speaker 4: I have no remote idea what I have said that

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Speaker 4: would compel any of these people to call, but I

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Speaker 4: am thankful for them, nonetheless. Dave, You're on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 4: thirty high.

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Speaker 5: Dave, Hey, Mo, how you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm wonderful yourself?

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Speaker 17: Good, good, good.

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Speaker 5: So I have a question.

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Speaker 17: Before I get the question, I go, do you know

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Speaker 17: that there is a new animal with the Cincinnati Zoo

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Speaker 17: named Mo?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 2: What kind of animal is it?

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Speaker 17: It is a Boba russa. You can look that up.

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Speaker 2: What is that?

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Speaker 17: It's like a wart hog sort of but with uh

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Speaker 17: more more tusks on it, and I think it might

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Speaker 17: be spelled moe.

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Speaker 5: So you might get.

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Speaker 17: Off, but if you for feeling the need to adopt

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Speaker 17: an animal, you could be that could be your game.

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Speaker 2: They named the wart hog Mo.

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Speaker 14: I don't know if that's why you or not.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the hippo.

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Speaker 4: The hippo gets a cool name like Fiona, right, the

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Speaker 4: dead ape gets a cool name like harambe, I get.

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Speaker 2: The wart hog.

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Speaker 5: I don't have to tell you, mo huh.

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Speaker 2: But I have to have a word with Saint Materer.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 17: So I got a question, a football question. Did you

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Speaker 17: notice how successful they were under center in the offense

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Speaker 17: on Thursday night?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: Like, is there any possible chance is there any chance

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Speaker 17: that Joe B is watching that saying, hum, maybe I

2085
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Speaker 17: can like survive and be even better.

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Speaker 4: If not, I don't know what he's I don't know

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Speaker 4: what he's doing, Like if you're not watching the offense

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Speaker 4: through the one the lens of why are we so

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Speaker 4: productive in this area that we're typically not very good at?

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Speaker 4: And number two, this old quarterback is doing it this

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Speaker 4: way and this guy like never gets hurt and I

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Speaker 4: want a career like that. I don't know if you're

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Speaker 4: Joe how you're not putting a lot of thought into

2094
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Speaker 4: those things. And look, he doesn't have to be under

2095
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Speaker 4: center every single play, But this is like, to me,

2096
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Speaker 4: this is the second time we've done this. We have

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Speaker 4: these same conversations when they started running it effectively with

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Speaker 4: Jake Browning two years ago, and we wondered, how do

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Speaker 4: you mesh how they're playing offense now with what Joe

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Speaker 4: likes to do, and we're watching again a quarterback play

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Speaker 4: under center and having some success.

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Speaker 2: How how then does that.

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Speaker 4: Not become a talking point between Joe and his coaches

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Speaker 4: or even for Joe with himself, to figure out how

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Speaker 4: you blend and the way Joe wants to play with

2106
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Speaker 4: how the quarterback now is playing.

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Speaker 17: I mean, I know Joe doesn't like playing under center,

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Speaker 17: but I also suspect he doesn't like sitting on the

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Speaker 17: sidelines in a booth.

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Speaker 2: Right, Like you have to adjust.

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Speaker 4: I mean I love Joe Burrow, but like you have

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Speaker 4: to adjust your style of play. I mean every athlete does,

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Speaker 4: you know? So I wonder what those conversations are are

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Speaker 4: going to sound it sound like now, I mean, hopefully

2115
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Speaker 4: Joe plays this year.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how you don't.

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Speaker 4: Say to Joe, like, dude, when you're back, whether it's

2118
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Speaker 4: in December or next September. We have to take some

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Speaker 4: of these concepts that we're using with Joe Flacco and

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Speaker 4: use them and run the ball more effectively and better

2121
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Speaker 4: keep you upright. And you have to develop a comfort

2122
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Speaker 4: level with turning your back to the defense when you

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Speaker 4: drop back the pass at least a little bit more frequently.

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Speaker 18: I hope.

2125
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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 17: Actually, when I was listening to the the guy you

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Speaker 17: had on just previously while I was on hold, I

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Speaker 17: almost wanted to ask him to run that data. What

2129
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Speaker 17: was their success and average of production from under center

2130
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Speaker 17: versus shotgun.

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Speaker 4: I will text Sean as soon as we are done,

2132
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Speaker 4: and we will have that information for you next tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Dave, thank you very.

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Speaker 4: Much, and I've also I've also jotted down the zoos

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Speaker 4: in photo reach out to them.

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Speaker 5: All right, take it easy, mo, see you, Dave.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Ward Hoog mo the war Hoog. Jason. You're on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. Jason, good afternoon. How are you.

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Speaker 5: I'm good?

2140
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Speaker 2: No, how you doing, Budy, I have never been doing better?

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Speaker 14: Goody.

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Speaker 18: Good to have the band back together.

2143
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Speaker 2: It is all is right with the world. Jason bands

2144
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Speaker 2: back together.

2145
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Speaker 4: And uh, you got Tony, you got Austin, you got tarn,

2146
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Speaker 4: you got me, you got Drew, and you have the

2147
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Speaker 4: No one covers the Bengals like ESPN fifteen thirty promo.

2148
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Speaker 2: Really we are whole and together in life is good?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, absolutely so little curveball here, so show showy Tani.

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Speaker 18: I listened to a lot of top uh sports talk

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Speaker 18: radio and stuff like that. I mean, you know some

2152
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Speaker 18: of the ones in the morning in the morning, yeah,

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Speaker 18: on your on your station, which is on the morning. Okay,

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Speaker 18: But they always they keep saying that the show he

2155
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Speaker 18: a tany game is the best performance they've ever seen,

2156
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Speaker 18: and we will never see anything like that. I'd like

2157
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Speaker 18: to refer back to June twenty third, nineteen seventy one.

2158
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Speaker 2: I know where you're going.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, Philly's versus her ads. Uh huh you pitch your

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Speaker 18: Rick Wise? Mm hmm two home runs, three Rbistani had

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Speaker 18: three RBIs M and a new hitter M. Now it

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Speaker 18: was not in a playoff game. I'll give you that,

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Speaker 18: but right, you know, there have been other performances that

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Speaker 18: are are pretty damn good.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to know a fun fact about that night? Sure,

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Speaker 2: that was my parents' first date.

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Speaker 4: And my dad told me, and I was too young

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Speaker 4: to understand what he meant, that he had a better

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Speaker 4: night than Rick Wise. And you know when I was

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Speaker 4: like seven years old. I didn't know what he I'm like, well,

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Speaker 4: did you throw a no hitter? Like, no, I didn't

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Speaker 4: know what. That was my parents' first date. You're right,

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Speaker 4: two homers, drove in three threw a no hitter on

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Speaker 4: the road. The seventy one Reds weren't awesome, but there

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Speaker 4: were a lot of great players in that Cincinnati team.

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Speaker 2: I do think though it's the stage.

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Speaker 4: It was a clinching game International League Championship Series. He

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Speaker 4: hit three home runs, he struck out ten. Like, if

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Speaker 4: he does that in June, it's awesome. Doing it in

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Speaker 4: October I think amplifies it a little bit more more

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01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:13,680
Speaker 4: people saw it. But sure, man, many have said that

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Speaker 4: Rick Wise's performance that night at Riverfront Stadium was the

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Speaker 4: greatest individual performance because of the no hitter and the

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Speaker 4: two home runs. And I guess because he, you know,

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Speaker 4: did it against a team that had so many just

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Speaker 4: upper tier dudes.

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Speaker 2: Hall of famers.

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Speaker 4: Bench was on that team, more Rose was on that team, Concepcione.

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Speaker 4: But I think that the stakes in the stage for

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Speaker 4: showhy you know, probably make that put that a little

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01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 4: bit higher on the list for most people, for everybody,

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Speaker 4: but my parents because they they weren't at that game,

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Speaker 4: but that they were both there at the Rick Wise game.

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Speaker 18: And I get that, but it wasn't Game seven and

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01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 18: the Dodgers for to win that series no matter what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, correct, But.

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Speaker 18: No, I just I just want to turn that out there.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Man, Thanks so much, Thanks Mo see you.

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Speaker 4: Rick Wise, my mom and Dad's first day. Uh, Don,

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Speaker 4: you're on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Don, how are you.

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Speaker 18: Well?

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01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 2: Don? Hey? Don? Don? John? Oh?

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01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 4: John, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Let's start over, John.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 11: I'm well, Oh, how are you?

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01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 2: I'm doing I'm doing quite well. What's going on?

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Speaker 11: Uh? I want to follow up kind of on the

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Speaker 11: last collar in that you know, I live out in

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Speaker 11: southern California and I've been out here for forty two years. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: I will die. I will die a red stand period

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Speaker 11: the end. And I just don't think red stands want

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01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:02,000
Speaker 11: to hear about the Dodgers. And I don't think they

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01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 11: want to hear about a former Cincinnati and Mike who

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01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 11: called it all the time and went over to the dark.

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01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:13,559
Speaker 11: I called the Dodgers like Mike, Hey, Mike, call the

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01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 11: l A radio stations man, I'm you know, hear about

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Speaker 11: the Reds.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, what what do you What would you like

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Speaker 2: to say about the Reds?

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Speaker 11: Well, I'd like, what do I need to say? They

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Speaker 11: had a good season. I was surprised. I think all

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Speaker 11: the fans were we made the playoff. Why I don't know.

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Speaker 11: I I think that the Reds are wrong for putting

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01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:47,720
Speaker 11: Elliott short stop and just picking with him in the

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Speaker 11: season is helpful. I mean, we could talk all day about.

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Speaker 14: The Reds, but I want the Reds to win.

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Speaker 2: I don't meet her.

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Speaker 14: I want the Reds to win.

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01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:00,320
Speaker 2: Well, I can't.

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Speaker 4: I can't control what people call in to talk about.

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Speaker 4: So I'm glad you're here talking about the Reds. But

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Speaker 4: I want him to win too. I think the l

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Speaker 4: del Cruise discussion is fascinating.

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Speaker 11: I want the Reds, the Sangles you see, and even.

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Speaker 2: X you to win very too. Met me too, I know,

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Speaker 2: I know, I.

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Speaker 11: Know that's hard when you live in the land of

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Speaker 11: Dodger fans. Okay, it's like enough already, but thank you?

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Speaker 2: You could you could move back, right? Can you not

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Speaker 2: come back?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 11: I'm I'm I'm an old roommate of wild Man before

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Speaker 11: he went to w E v N.

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Speaker 4: No, don't move back far back. Yeah, you know, I'm sorry.

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01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 4: You know what I get. I would have moved to

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01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:52,599
Speaker 4: Russia forget Los Angeles like no I did.

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Speaker 2: Did he did he write a chapter about you and

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Speaker 2: his book?

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Speaker 11: No he didn't because I left before he went to

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Speaker 11: w E b AN No, man, but I text to

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01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:04,719
Speaker 11: talk with him almost daily.

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Speaker 2: Do you how is he?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, he's fine. We talked about we talk about sports.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well give give give Dennis my best.

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Speaker 2: Nice to hear from you as always.

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Speaker 11: Well, thank you, man, I really enjoy listening to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks very much. All Right, we'll call again. Colin.

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Speaker 4: The next thing you're hanging out with Wildman, Hey, don't

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Speaker 4: forget Bengo Thursday for the Thursday night football game. You

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01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:38,960
Speaker 4: got the Vikings, he got the Chargers. You got Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 4: I don't know whatever JJ McCarthy Day said few weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, it's a bomb ankle guys like

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Speaker 4: a wall.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about that.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: You got all the Saturday football games College, you got

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Speaker 4: the Bengals on Sunday, you got the Trunk Retreat coming up. Basically,

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Speaker 4: you name it. Day got it here at Oakley Greens.

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01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:59,160
Speaker 4: The staff is awesome. Mary from Mount Washington bought me this,

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Speaker 4: but do one of these deals. Ah yeah, that's not

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Speaker 4: a Ken Bruce sound effect either. He hits a button.

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01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 4: He's not really opening beers. I just open one and

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Speaker 4: I'm going to enjoy it. Thanks to Drew Westerraheidi for

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Speaker 4: producing on site. Thanks to Tarren Bland for producing in

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Speaker 4: ken Wood, and in advance, the Marconi Committee for listening

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Speaker 4: to this show and handing us the hardware.

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Speaker 2: Have an awesome night. Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 4: We're back tomorrow at three oh five on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 4: thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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