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Speaker 3: Let's talk some Bengals in the moment and on Sunday,
Speaker 3: I thought Austin they did. They did exactly what you
Speaker 3: would hope they would do to a team that was
Speaker 3: beat up, banged up, beaten down, had to travel cross country,
Speaker 3: take care of them early score on the opening drive
Speaker 3: and maybe gave them a little bit of reason to
Speaker 3: play after the thirty eight yard disastrous mistackle Trio along
Speaker 3: the sidelines gave them a little bit of life, but
Speaker 3: then took care of business and ultimately did what you
Speaker 3: should do to the Arizona Carnivals.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think that's the big takeaway really, is the fact
Speaker 4: that you know, they did what they were supposed to do.
Speaker 4: If they had squeaked out a seventeen thirteen win, we'd
Speaker 4: be having a much different conversation right now. And I
Speaker 4: think that's the thing that you really take away from
Speaker 4: each of the last two games, which has been they
Speaker 4: dominated an opponent, that they are much better than they
Speaker 4: have more talent than, they have a better quarterback. I
Speaker 4: think they have a better head coach than both those teams.
Speaker 4: They did what they were supposed to do to a
Speaker 4: inferior opponent at home, and they deserve credit for doing so,
Speaker 4: for meeting the standard that has been established.
Speaker 2: Now, obviously that's a team that's not very good.
Speaker 4: I think Moeger described it as the NFL's version of
Speaker 4: an FCS opponent, and I think that's accurate. But you
Speaker 4: can't control who lines up across from Yeah, and I
Speaker 4: get and we talked a little bit about this last week.
Speaker 4: I get the default position of most who say it.
Speaker 3: Doesn't matter or it will lead to the front office
Speaker 3: believing everything's okay.
Speaker 2: I get that that's fair that's earned.
Speaker 3: But for the moment, I can't do anything about the
Speaker 3: offseason hasn't happened.
Speaker 2: I can only work on what they're doing now.
Speaker 3: The way they've looked the last two weeks is how
Speaker 3: they should look against those teams, and let's go offensively, specifically,
Speaker 3: they have looked like the well oiled machine that we
Speaker 3: thought they could be and is a very dangerous offense.
Speaker 2: I don't care who they're playing. Yeah, I'm looking at.
Speaker 4: The way they have performed as an offense and it's
Speaker 4: been high level.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think it doesn't matter necessarily who the players are.
Speaker 4: You're gonna get a similar scheme in trying to double
Speaker 4: team Jamar Chase, double team t Higgins, and then it's like, okay, well,
Speaker 4: what's Andre Josevas gonna do, what's Mikasiki gonna do? And
Speaker 4: how are you gonna stop Chase Brown? And the Bengals
Speaker 4: have done a great job of the all of those weapons, now,
Speaker 4: I think is sick. He had two catches for forty yards,
Speaker 4: but one of them was on a broken play deep
Speaker 4: down the field. Joe Burrow found him, converted a third down,
Speaker 4: kept the drive alive. You're right, I think if anything
Speaker 4: this last month or so has proven to us, Okay,
Speaker 4: it still works. It still looks like what it's supposed
Speaker 4: to look like when Joe Burrow is healthy, when the
Speaker 4: big three are on the field together. That's something to
Speaker 4: build around. And I don't know about you, but it
Speaker 4: furthered my belief that Joe Burrow shouldn't play this week
Speaker 4: against the Cleveland Browns because okay, yes, we were reminded
Speaker 4: it still looks like that.
Speaker 2: It's fine.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll get into the Browns and Joe and that
Speaker 3: great debate of how much should Joe play, how much
Speaker 3: he should play? In a bit, let me let me
Speaker 3: while I'm thinking about let me let me ask something
Speaker 3: that raction to what Charlie Goldsmith, our guy said earlier
Speaker 3: this week. And then we'll continue searching for trags. But
Speaker 3: in the moment, this is a good tie in. And
Speaker 3: Charlie tweeted the following I think it was yesterday, and
Speaker 3: he said this doesn't change the degree to which the
Speaker 3: Bengals need to improve their defense. But had Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: not suffered the two injury, I think the Bengals would
Speaker 3: have won the division. Now, before everybody gets all bent
Speaker 3: out of shape and says what they want to say
Speaker 3: about the defense. Charlie added, Now he says, now in
Speaker 3: the playoffs, the defensive flaws would have shown up. A
Speaker 3: playoff game would have felt like the game at Buffalo,
Speaker 3: but the Bengals would be in the dance. That also
Speaker 3: informs what they need from the defense next year. The
Speaker 3: unit can't just be passable. It needs to be able
Speaker 3: to win a playoff game for you. Let me go
Speaker 3: back to his original thought that, had Joe Burrow not
Speaker 3: suffered the two injury, is this team the AFC North
Speaker 3: champion in your mind?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 3: So there's six and ten right now, right, six and
Speaker 3: ten right now? Yes, to be division champ this year.
Speaker 3: Technically you could be nine and eight. So that's three
Speaker 3: more wins. We're saying for arguments. If Joe Burrow doesn't
Speaker 3: get hurt and Joe missed what nine games because they
Speaker 3: went one and eight?
Speaker 2: So is that are three more doable? Yes?
Speaker 4: I think so. Do you think they lose the Jets game?
Speaker 4: Do you think they lose the Bears game? I mean,
Speaker 4: obviously the Buffalo game was a bit of a fluke,
Speaker 4: but they were better than the Green Bay Packers for
Speaker 4: a point, in that game at lambeau Field. Yes, they
Speaker 4: could have won that game. I don't think they would
Speaker 4: have turned the ball over five times against the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 4: Don't know that they would have won that game, but
Speaker 4: would agree with that if you assume they're going to
Speaker 4: beat the Cleveland Browns this week. There's one yeah here
Speaker 4: my only and I I thought it was a real
Speaker 4: I thought it was a great statement by Charlie Haus.
Speaker 4: It made me think because to answer to answer and
Speaker 4: agree with him and say they would be the division champs.
Speaker 2: It'd be one thing if in most of.
Speaker 3: The losses they struggled to score, and yet they lost
Speaker 3: a game scoring thirty seven, lost a game scoring thirty nine,
Speaker 3: lost a game scoring forty seven, And I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: sorry giving up yeah for scoring forty two, thirty eight,
Speaker 3: thirty one. So would in the games where they put
Speaker 3: up a lot of points and lost, how much of
Speaker 3: a difference would Joe have made? You see what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I see what you're saying.
Speaker 2: And I don't. I don't know if I can convince
Speaker 2: myself that they're a playoff team. If Joe didn't get hurt.
Speaker 4: I think the offensive efficiency would have just been a
Speaker 4: tick more and it would have been maybe one more
Speaker 4: possession leads to three more points or one less possession
Speaker 4: for the opposing team, because the Bengals can run the
Speaker 4: football effectively with Joe Burrow in the threat of the
Speaker 4: wide receivers, and that means that the other team doesn't
Speaker 4: touch the ball, meaning more complimentary football. So that's that's
Speaker 4: how I view it. I also think that Patriots game,
Speaker 4: if he plays, they probably win it. If Jamar Chase plays,
Speaker 4: even without Burrow, they probably win that game.
Speaker 2: And that's the game.
Speaker 3: That's the game in the grouping where I say that's
Speaker 3: the one I can easily flip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if Joe's the quarterback. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And you know, I think, honestly, you could look at
Speaker 4: the Thursday night game against the Steelers and that could
Speaker 4: have flipped either way based off the way Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 4: was playing in that game. But I think early on
Speaker 4: against the Lions they had a chance, but they kept
Speaker 4: turning the ball over. Could that have been a different game.
Speaker 4: Those are hard to say, just because of how deep
Speaker 4: in it they were with Jake Browning at the time.
Speaker 2: And I do believe Charlie's statement to be true.
Speaker 3: And here's the I mean, think of this, here's the killer,
Speaker 3: and it's why they missing out on this season. In
Speaker 3: a season where Patrick Mahomes isn't in the playoffs and
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson may not be in the playoffs, We're sitting
Speaker 3: here arguing, if Joe doesn't get hurt, they're nine and
Speaker 3: eight in a division champ.
Speaker 2: That's all. It would have taken. Nine wins.
Speaker 3: But at the start of the season, had you said
Speaker 3: they'd go nine and eight, we said, well, then the
Speaker 3: season's gone south. They're going to be better than nine
Speaker 3: and eight. And that's all they would have taken.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all they needed to do was be the team
Speaker 4: they were last year. Oh yes, if they were the
Speaker 4: team they were last year, they'd be in the playoffs
Speaker 4: right now. It's it's it's amazing how similar to me
Speaker 4: it feels than a year ago from a year ago,
Speaker 4: because it is one possession here, one player there, one
Speaker 4: player misses this play, whatever it might be, and that
Speaker 4: kept them out of at least contending with the AFC.
Speaker 3: And just think they and I go back to Jake
Speaker 3: Browning and boy from from how we viewed Jake to
Speaker 3: where Jake's Jak is right now, and what his future is.
Speaker 2: I remember when Joe first got.
Speaker 3: Hurt, we were all quoting, like the storyline was, well,
Speaker 3: he may be the thirty third best. Question, He's at
Speaker 3: least the thirty third best quarterback in the NFL. He's
Speaker 3: brother the best backup quarterback. And he went out for
Speaker 3: three games and looked like he never played the game before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't. They were non competitive for three weeks
Speaker 2: with Jake Brown.
Speaker 4: I remember before the season somebody from ESPN wrote the
Speaker 4: best backup quarterbacks in the NFL. He was number two
Speaker 4: behind Kirk Cousins, and I was thinking, all right, great,
Speaker 4: And then on top of that, when Burrow goes down,
Speaker 4: he leads this comeback win yep, at the very last
Speaker 4: second to win. You're like, all right, we're gonna be fine.
Speaker 4: Just get Joe back, we'll be fine.
Speaker 2: And you're right.
Speaker 4: He did look like he never played football before. I
Speaker 4: have no explanation for that. Appreciated how aggressive he was.
Speaker 4: He was always willing to push it and not afraid
Speaker 4: of that, but that that hurt him ended up ended
Speaker 4: up hurting him more than it helped him, and obviously
Speaker 4: hurt the team.
Speaker 3: And I remember thinking, remember when we went through the
Speaker 3: whole debate when Joe first got hurt, well, is he
Speaker 3: gonna come back at all? Could he come back for
Speaker 3: the final three? And we were all doing the math, like, okay,
Speaker 3: with Flacco down control, can he be five hundred and
Speaker 3: just keep him alive till Joe comes back?
Speaker 2: And they went without Joe, they went one and eight. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, just saying.
Speaker 3: That out loud, this team still with Jamar, Chase and
Speaker 3: t Higgins and Mike Kasicki and Jamar and Chase Brown
Speaker 3: and at the time Trey Hendrickson was healthy. That that
Speaker 3: that they went on and eight without their starting quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Do you think if Trey Hendrickson was healthy.
Speaker 2: They went there? That's a good question too.
Speaker 4: I think if Trey Hendrickson was healthy, they would have
Speaker 4: beat the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3: I would say that because you say what you want
Speaker 3: to about Trey, and whether you like Trey or don't
Speaker 3: like Trey, I think everybody asked can see Trey was.
Speaker 2: Like the closer for this team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when it came like closing time in a game,
Speaker 3: it was Trey, go get the quarterback and wrap this
Speaker 3: thing up.
Speaker 2: And they didn't have anybody to do that.
Speaker 4: I would also would have loved to see what it
Speaker 4: looked like with Trey on the field against the Buffalo Bills. Yes,
Speaker 4: the way that Josh Allen had kind of played and
Speaker 4: in that moment, I don't know that it would have
Speaker 4: made that big of a difference. But again to your point,
Speaker 4: he was the closer, and that game against the Bears,
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams was just running around doing whatever he wanted
Speaker 4: yea and made so many plays off structure. But you know,
Speaker 4: that three game stretch really is the big thing to me,
Speaker 4: Like if they had not gotten Flacco three days before
Speaker 4: they played the Green Bay Packers, then maybe they actually
Speaker 4: win that game. They obviously knocked off Pittsburgh the Jets,
Speaker 4: they needed one stop, one stop. Yeah, they win that game.
Speaker 4: And the Bears basically can you tackle?
Speaker 2: And they couldn't. And that just it's the same thing
Speaker 2: as last year.
Speaker 4: You think of Tanner Hudson fumbling at the goal line,
Speaker 4: you think of day John Anthony's passenger if you're it's
Speaker 4: in Kansas City four sixteen, like all these little moments,
Speaker 4: it's just it leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
Speaker 4: It adds up to a third straight year without the playoffs.
Speaker 4: In the window that is Joe Burrow's career. What was
Speaker 4: harder to watch though last year this year, because I
Speaker 4: think it was this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say it just became so deflating with
Speaker 3: Joe's injury and then how miserable it was for three
Speaker 3: weeks with Jake, and then a little bit of boost
Speaker 3: of hope with Joe, and then the the the Flacco
Speaker 3: and then the thought the defense just for so long
Speaker 3: was just tough to watch. More on that as we continue,
Speaker 3: Let's get a check on news and talk more about
Speaker 3: the offense. Chase Brown season had more. He is Austin Ellmore.
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Speaker 2: We were talking.
Speaker 3: During one of the breaks and we've all confirmed, both Fran, Mike,
Speaker 3: and myself all confirmed at some point in our lives
Speaker 3: we banged pots and pans out.
Speaker 2: The back door.
Speaker 3: I'll never forget as a kid on New Year's my
Speaker 3: grandma always saying, grab your pots and pans, and she
Speaker 3: would open the sliding patio door and we'd all bang
Speaker 3: potts for I think it was for good luck? Was
Speaker 3: it for good luck? And it was also eat Sauer Kraut,
Speaker 3: which I refused to do. I like Sara Kraut, but
Speaker 3: my grandma always insisted, bang the pots and pans, eat
Speaker 3: Sara Kraut for New Year's Eve.
Speaker 2: We had this conversation on the on the air earlier
Speaker 2: today sixty three sixty yes her name to three.
Speaker 4: Talking about thirty and apparently it's to get rid of
Speaker 4: the demons, the demons and the spirits and the bad
Speaker 4: energy and the bad juju around the.
Speaker 3: Now it's taking on a much more important meaning that
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, does that mean that you go
Speaker 3: back to that. Now, maybe I revert to my childhood.
Speaker 3: We might need to do I never did that though,
Speaker 3: never did anything like that.
Speaker 2: See, you should catch up and do it tomorrow night.
Speaker 4: Well there's other people who say that, you know, you
Speaker 4: open your front door and open your back door to
Speaker 4: let all the bad energy out.
Speaker 2: And I don't know. I have no idea. There's a
Speaker 2: lot I want, you know, I want you to do.
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 4: I want you to bang pot and pans and eat
Speaker 4: Buckeyes tomorrow night. I can eat the Buckeyes and I'll
Speaker 4: tell you what. If we win, if we beat the Hurricanes,
Speaker 4: there'll be some banging or something going on.
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't believe.
Speaker 4: I have memories of banging a pot and pan out
Speaker 4: to my Grandma.
Speaker 2: Insisted, did you ever like them? You break them or anything?
Speaker 2: It'll just like making the noise.
Speaker 3: No, it was the big like frying pan skillet, so
Speaker 3: oh yeah, and the pots and that you.
Speaker 2: Boil what you bang, bang, bang bang.
Speaker 4: It'd be like twelve degrees and then shut the door.
Speaker 4: Did you ever accidentally take one upside the head?
Speaker 2: By Jesse? We knew what we were doing. Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: I'm just looking for answers.
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Speaker 3: the show this year. Since this is our last show
Speaker 3: of the year, will make the opening drive the drive
Speaker 3: of last week's game. The Tone Center twelve plays seventy
Speaker 3: two yards, five forty three off the clock and a touchdown.
Speaker 3: The Bengals were on their way to victory. And we'll
Speaker 3: do our standing ovation for last week, presented by Ovation
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Speaker 3: together the Ovation Standing Ovation each week throughout the season,
Speaker 3: and we certainly appreciate Ovation being a part of the
Speaker 3: show this season. Will go Chase Brown for his one
Speaker 3: hundred and forty one yards from scrimmage. He did it
Speaker 3: on the ground, he did it through the aar, he
Speaker 3: did it blocking.
Speaker 2: I love the quote from.
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor this week who said, and I think I'm paraphrasing,
Speaker 3: I trust him in all three phases, yeah, meaning catching
Speaker 3: the ball, running the ball, and blocking that dude, I mean,
Speaker 3: if you talk about a season that turned as the
Speaker 3: offensive line got better, because you remember, like the first
Speaker 3: three or four weeks, we were all quoting, like Pro
Speaker 3: Football Focus that he was, you know, hit behind the
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage for what should have been like minus
Speaker 3: forty two yards in a game. And now we're talking
Speaker 3: about a guy who's about fifty yards away from a
Speaker 3: thousand yard season in almost fourteen hundred yard fifteen hundred
Speaker 3: yards in total offense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's been unbelievable and and it really
Speaker 4: felt like it took them a while, not just to
Speaker 4: get the run game going, but also to get him
Speaker 4: involved in the past game. And I guess part of
Speaker 4: the reason was, you know, without Joe Burrow, I don't
Speaker 4: know if it's adjusting stuff at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's moving him around in the
Speaker 4: formation or whatever it was, and in the playbook maybe
Speaker 4: being shrunk for Joe Flacco and or Jake Browning. But
Speaker 4: now you've seen him everywhere. You see him motioning before
Speaker 4: the snap. I like the wrinkle they've added the last
Speaker 4: couple of weeks, which is two running back sets yep,
Speaker 4: which is him and p Ryan on the field at
Speaker 4: the same time, and then all of a sudden, he'll
Speaker 4: move Chase Brown out. He becomes a threat catching the ball.
Speaker 4: But also some myj PTE. Ryan's having a really good
Speaker 4: season running the ball as well, doing part of that
Speaker 4: offensive line. That's another wrinkle that makes this offense hard
Speaker 4: to defense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Joe it appears feels comfortable checking down with
Speaker 3: him when something isn't there. They've targeted him. I think
Speaker 3: I wrote down he has sixty five catches on eighty
Speaker 3: two targets this year, So let's see, seventeen times five
Speaker 3: is eighty five. So they're targeting him about five times
Speaker 3: a game, which is up from a little about four
Speaker 3: last year. So I you know, you're only going to
Speaker 3: get so many targets in an offense that has Chase
Speaker 3: it has Higgins. They've made Chase Brown a legitimate threat
Speaker 3: both running and catching the football.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, eighty two targets this year, he's sixty five all
Speaker 4: of last year, and that's up from obviously fifteen in
Speaker 4: his rookie season. But you're exactly right. And I remember
Speaker 4: reading the article that Paul Danner Junior wrote last offseason
Speaker 4: about the training that he and Andre josavash had done,
Speaker 4: and how Chase Brown wasn't really raining in like a
Speaker 4: running back.
Speaker 2: He was turning like a wide receiver.
Speaker 4: And you're starting to see that paid dividendce the point
Speaker 4: you made about checking it down when the pocket gets
Speaker 4: muddled and when Burrow just needs to get rid of it.
Speaker 4: He's one of those guys that can turn a three
Speaker 4: yard checkdown into a thirteen yard or into a if
Speaker 4: it's third and fourteen, he can get the first down
Speaker 4: out of that. He did that against Arizona. That's a
Speaker 4: huge weapon to have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was talking with lap Bundy down on
Speaker 3: Bengals line how it's almost equated to like a game
Speaker 3: controller where there's like a turbo you pressed the button
Speaker 3: for a little turbo boost and jamar or a Chase
Speaker 3: that first step when he gets to it, he gets
Speaker 3: to it, and he did a little jump step to
Speaker 3: make a guy miss, and he's not afraid to then
Speaker 3: plow into somebody and make contact. That's that's I mean,
Speaker 3: we've just run through pass catching, running the ball well,
Speaker 3: not afraid of contact, able to make you miss.
Speaker 2: That's a complete package of what you're looking for.
Speaker 4: I think his ability to to get top speed on
Speaker 4: a misdirection or when he changes direction is really impressive.
Speaker 4: I think back to the opening drive of the season.
Speaker 4: They ran the ball down the throat of the clear
Speaker 4: Eveland Browns and they got inside the five and they
Speaker 4: were struggling a little bit. Hand the ball off to
Speaker 4: chase to the right. He comes basically to a dead
Speaker 4: stop and then just sprints to the left side and
Speaker 4: beats the Browns defense to the end zone. That ability
Speaker 4: to change directions so quickly get to top speed is
Speaker 4: a huge weapon to have in the offense. And I
Speaker 4: think his vision and his patience have been things that
Speaker 4: have improved for him as the season went on. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's a great point about the opening drive. I think
Speaker 4: if I remember, I think he had seven touches on
Speaker 4: that opening drive of the season and think it holy cow.
Speaker 4: And then he went through that phase where the offensive
Speaker 4: line just wasn't doing anything and it made him kind
Speaker 4: of question what was going on? And certainly no questions
Speaker 4: now with what they're doing now. I guess that the question.
Speaker 3: To keep on the theme, he was a let's see,
Speaker 3: he was what a fifth round pick? What we're at No.
Speaker 5: Third?
Speaker 2: He was a fifth round pick. Number one sixty three
Speaker 2: overall number one sixty three, and this is year number three.
Speaker 3: So if I were to say to you, let's get
Speaker 3: ahead of things and lock him up now, that to
Speaker 3: me would seem perfect for a team that has waited too.
Speaker 2: Long on other guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in terms of making a statement to the rest
Speaker 3: of your team and just locking up and taking care
Speaker 3: of something offensively that you shouldn't worry about once you
Speaker 3: get it done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this year shows his value more than
Speaker 4: maybe any point in his career. Obviously with the amount
Speaker 4: of injuries that they've had. I think the way Zach
Speaker 4: has talked about him, the way that Joe has talked
Speaker 4: about him, even a little bit, the way Jamar Chase
Speaker 4: has talked about him, you start to realize just how
Speaker 4: important he is to the offense. You draft a guy
Speaker 4: with this vision in mind, yep, that can take over
Speaker 4: and be such a big weapon in your offense. And
Speaker 4: I kind of equate this. For some reason, they may
Speaker 4: not be comparable, but I think of the Logan Wilson
Speaker 4: deal that he got prior to the end of his
Speaker 4: rookie contract, where they took care of him early, they
Speaker 4: gave him an extension, they settled their cap a little bit,
Speaker 4: and they took care of one of their own, their
Speaker 4: guys that had turned out to be a leader. On
Speaker 4: that defense, I think it's comparable to Chase Brown, like
Speaker 4: he's an important piece of this offense, and he's gonna
Speaker 4: be affordable. You've got plenty of cap space, not just
Speaker 4: next year, but the years after that.
Speaker 2: Now is the time to lock him down.
Speaker 3: He will be next year, he'll be still only twenty six.
Speaker 3: His workload has not been excessive. They haven't run him
Speaker 3: into the ground first season forty four attempts last year
Speaker 3: to twenty nine this year two nineteen with one game
Speaker 3: to go, so he's not even at five five hundred
Speaker 3: career rushing attempts and going into an age twenty six season.
Speaker 3: There shouldn't be any worry about tread on the tire.
Speaker 3: That's to me, that would be up on a board
Speaker 3: of a working strategy of somebody you would take care
Speaker 3: of and not worry about committing that type of money
Speaker 3: to just push it off to the.
Speaker 2: Side, say now we don't have to worry about him.
Speaker 4: And the other thing we've seen over the last couple
Speaker 4: of years has been the renaissance of the running back
Speaker 4: position in the NFL. Sakuon Barkley, Bjon Robinson, if you
Speaker 4: watched him last night, unbelievable. Those are dudes that have
Speaker 4: raised the price a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: And if the NFL is going to get back to
Speaker 4: running football, I'm not. I don't know that it's ever
Speaker 4: going to be a run first league again. But if
Speaker 4: you're starting to see value at that position across the
Speaker 4: league and guys that are not afraid to turn around
Speaker 4: and hand it off twenty times a game, twenty five
Speaker 4: times a game like they used to, then that positional
Speaker 4: value is going to go up. And if you're Chase Brown,
Speaker 4: I'd be pushing to get it done early as well,
Speaker 4: so that I can double dip and get back into
Speaker 4: free agency before I turn thirty or thirty one years old.
Speaker 2: All right, that was a heck of a segment. Let's
Speaker 2: do one more.
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Speaker 3: That's five and a half sacks. Now he has the
Speaker 3: team lead, I said Monday night on Bengals Line to me,
Speaker 3: if you're tracking the performance of Miles Murphy, I look
Speaker 3: at performances and I say, early stage, it's a blip. Okay,
Speaker 3: that was good. That was a blip on the radar.
Speaker 3: The more it happens, I start to saying, all right,
Speaker 3: I see a trend developing. I think we're now into
Speaker 3: the stage where reality has hit with Miles Murphy. And
Speaker 3: I don't want to make it out to think I
Speaker 3: believe he's a pro bowler right now, or he's the
Speaker 3: answered all their problems, but I believe he is a
Speaker 3: piece that could be counted on as a regular contributor
Speaker 3: on this defense.
Speaker 4: Would you agree? I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: I think that is one of the things you take
Speaker 4: with you going into the top season and knowing, Okay,
Speaker 4: this guy's going to play a role for us, and
Speaker 4: you know, I think we've forgotten they changed defensive coordinators,
Speaker 4: they change defensive line coaches.
Speaker 2: Yep. They brought in Jerry Montgomery, who.
Speaker 4: Has had some success coaching guys in the past at
Speaker 4: that position, and all of a sudden, it felt like
Speaker 4: the light bulb clicked.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just the way the defense is termed.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's just understanding that he's not a rotation, he's
Speaker 4: a guy that's being relied on every single snap, and
Speaker 4: there's more confidence that comes with that. I'm not sure
Speaker 4: exactly what it is, but you're right. It's not been
Speaker 4: two games. It's been eight games, nine games, ten games
Speaker 4: which he's put it all together. And I think an
Speaker 4: example is like TJ.
Speaker 2: Slayton.
Speaker 4: TJ Slayton's been really good for the last two weeks. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's played two terrible teams for the last two weeks.
Speaker 4: Miles Murphy's been good for the last ten weeks. DJ
Speaker 4: Turner's been good for the last ten weeks. It's not
Speaker 4: just something you see against bad teams. It's all across
Speaker 4: the board.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: To me, I think it's important with Miles Murphy to
Speaker 3: not be viewed. I think they have to view him
Speaker 3: as he could be the guy on the other side
Speaker 3: of the guy. Sure, he can be the second, and
Speaker 3: I don't know who that first. I don't know that
Speaker 3: they devote the money to Joseph o'side to do that.
Speaker 3: But somebody has to be the guy to allow Miles
Speaker 3: Murphy then to be the other guy. And there's nothing
Speaker 3: wrong with being the other guy. It just I don't
Speaker 3: want to count on him as the new Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's that yet. Do you think Joseph
Speaker 3: Osai can be the guy?
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm fifteen million a year committed.
Speaker 2: To believing that, are you? No?
Speaker 5: Not?
Speaker 3: Really I like him, I just I almost feel like
Speaker 3: the back portion of the season has been a missed
Speaker 3: opportunity for him to convince me and probably convince them.
Speaker 3: It's raised more questions than it's deliberate answers.
Speaker 4: He signed a prove it deal, yeah, to come back,
Speaker 4: and all he'd done is proved that he's the same
Speaker 4: guy he was a year ago. I would wonder if
Speaker 4: the Bengals are interested in trying to bank on that
Speaker 4: same light bulb clicking for Joseph Osaida, the motivation of
Speaker 4: a one motivation of a one year deal that you
Speaker 4: saw with Miles Murphy this year. The other interesting part
Speaker 4: of that David Mulgett as his agent, and we know
Speaker 4: that he and the Bengals don't get along when it
Speaker 4: comes to contract negotiations, which makes me think if he
Speaker 4: comes back, it would be similar to a year ago
Speaker 4: and a one year proved deal to try to get
Speaker 4: right back in there. But I also feel like Shamar
Speaker 4: Stewart has a chance this offseason to get back into
Speaker 4: being a football player. You went through the draft and
Speaker 4: the process that happened. Now you know what it's like.
Speaker 4: You don't have to deal with your contract. You're not
Speaker 4: going to be holding out. It's all in front of you.
Speaker 4: For Shamar Stewart, I hope the Bengals don't put all
Speaker 4: their eggs in that basket because I think that would
Speaker 4: be foolish and you would think that they've learned from
Speaker 4: Miles Murphy. But I do think there will be more
Speaker 4: production from whoever else is on the other side than
Speaker 4: we got this year.
Speaker 3: I said on Sunday, and almost sometimes I feel like
Speaker 3: I'm picking on him, But every time I watch Geno Stone,
Speaker 3: I come to the conclusion I don't know that how
Speaker 3: far back i'd have to go to dig into pro
Speaker 3: football a focused great if they ever had them for
Speaker 3: the history of the franchise. I feel pretty good believing
Speaker 3: that Geno Stone might be turning in the worst individual
Speaker 3: season performance of any player in the history of this franchise.
Speaker 2: He's just been a disaster. He's been a disaster.
Speaker 4: And Al Golden spoke glowingly of him yesterday, but I
Speaker 4: think if you read through that a little bit, he
Speaker 4: basically kept saying, Gino has been really good for us,
Speaker 4: getting us in the right position and getting us in
Speaker 4: the right play. That's the bare minimum of a safety.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: You know why von Bell played as much as he
Speaker 4: did last year because the other guys couldn't do that.
Speaker 4: Vaughn was terrible once the snap happened, but he was
Speaker 4: getting them in the right play. We're seeing the same
Speaker 4: thing unfold with Geno Stone, and so you know, he's
Speaker 4: on an expiring contract. He isn't played well, not the
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks. He hasn't played well for the
Speaker 4: last couple of years. So I don't know that there's
Speaker 4: anything that happens over these last few games that make
Speaker 4: you feel like, Okay, Genostone is a guy that's going
Speaker 4: to be coming back to me.
Speaker 3: It almost felt yesterday like al was was throwing a
Speaker 3: life preserver to one of his guys who's taking a
Speaker 3: heavy attack under fire from the fan base. There there
Speaker 3: was if you're out, there's no harm in saying something
Speaker 3: he thinks he's doing positively. And at the same time,
Speaker 3: you're never gonna bury the guy publicly, and you know
Speaker 3: he's not gonna be here next year, so saying something
Speaker 3: positive kind of changes the tone maybe a little bit,
Speaker 3: and gives him a positive on the way out. Maybe
Speaker 3: I'm reading too much into it, but clearly I don't
Speaker 3: think anybody believes that that's an indicator they have fallen
Speaker 3: in love with Genostone.
Speaker 2: He's going to be back next season.
Speaker 4: Well, I think what happened at the end of last
Speaker 4: year he did play a little bit better, He tackled
Speaker 4: a little bit better, and that, you know, made such
Speaker 4: an impression on the Bengals that they asked him to
Speaker 4: make a two million dollars pay cut, and he for
Speaker 4: some reason obliged and decided to do that. But I
Speaker 4: think it's interesting the comparison between the safety position and
Speaker 4: the edge position, because I think Jordan battle could be
Speaker 4: much like Miles Murphy, where he's a player who can
Speaker 4: thrive when there's a better player on the other sides.
Speaker 4: And we saw that a little bit in Jordan's rookie
Speaker 4: year when Dax was playing okay at that position. Jordan
Speaker 4: has had some moments this year where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: there's still something there, there's still something that can be
Speaker 4: unlocked with Jordan Battle. I think you make Murphy a
Speaker 4: better player, and you make Battle a better player by
Speaker 4: the two guys that are playing.
Speaker 2: Next to him, no doubt, no doubt.
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Speaker 3: uc football in advance of the Liberty Bowl versus Navy
Speaker 3: and Memphis on Friday. That would be from Bearcat Journal
Speaker 3: Chad Brendle.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 5: I am pretty much entirely in the mode where I'm
Speaker 5: just waiting to get to Memphis on Thursday and eat
Speaker 5: Guts's fried chicken.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nice, nice, all right, speaking of the bowl game.
Speaker 3: The news of the day for the Bearcats, Evan Pryor,
Speaker 3: the running back or average six point nine yards of
Speaker 3: carried this year in rushing for over five hundred yards,
Speaker 3: has entered the transfer portal.
Speaker 2: Your reaction to the news of the day.
Speaker 5: Cincinnati has to be really smart with their money that
Speaker 5: they don't have a lot of it. I think Evan
Speaker 5: Pryor was, and probably rightfully so, looking for a you know,
Speaker 5: this last year, looking for a big pay day. And
Speaker 5: I think he's probably a running back two for Cincinnati
Speaker 5: at least the way that they want to run the football.
Speaker 5: They prefer Corey Kiner Tywie Walker type in that running
Speaker 5: back one spot. It's probably that's for both parties if
Speaker 5: they go their separate ways. But that's not to diminish
Speaker 5: this was not Evan pryor wasn't good enough. Cincinnati is
Speaker 5: moving on. Just in the new world of college football.
Speaker 5: Financials play into it, maybe more than any of us
Speaker 5: would like them to. But that's a factor you have to,
Speaker 5: you know, put into the the mix for how these
Speaker 5: things play out.
Speaker 4: When it comes to the money and being smart with
Speaker 4: the money, how much of it do you think is
Speaker 4: you know, saving up for having to invest in a
Speaker 4: quarterback and the outrageous prices that college quarterbacks are going
Speaker 4: for these days.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's some talk in a couple of articles
Speaker 5: that have been coming out recently that you're talking like
Speaker 5: a million and a half two million dollars for guys
Speaker 5: that are backups. Wow, now they're probably good backups, you know,
Speaker 5: like the kid at Ohio State who's almost won that
Speaker 5: job the past two years. Try talking to a million
Speaker 5: and a half two million dollars to get him to
Speaker 5: get the kid from Notre Dame probably over a million dollars.
Speaker 5: That was the backup there. I've heard I've heard anywhere
Speaker 5: from four to six million dollars for Brendan Soursby.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5: So we thought that the market would would calm down, right, Like, okay,
Speaker 5: revenue shares here, the cap is in place, but for
Speaker 5: positions like quarterback, you can round up nil money. That's
Speaker 5: that's actual nil money that you know. These getting kids
Speaker 5: are QB one are marketable and those those markets. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and that money is not flowing down at all. So
Speaker 5: you guys save you money for a quarterback often.
Speaker 3: So you Kegan, You guys, everybody at Bearcat Journal, you
Speaker 3: guys are all over this and do it like nobody's
Speaker 3: business keeping track of the portal?
Speaker 2: What going into the bowl game?
Speaker 3: How would you categorize the general shape of the roster
Speaker 3: going into the bowl game based on everything that is transpired.
Speaker 5: Uh, not terrible, but certainly not what you want against Navy,
Speaker 5: like in this era, the last thing you want to
Speaker 5: see going into a bowl game as a service academy,
Speaker 5: especially a good service accademy like this is a good
Speaker 5: Navy team. They don't deal with opt oubts, they don't
Speaker 5: deal with kids entering the transfer portal, like the team
Speaker 5: that they had all season is going to be the
Speaker 5: team that you play. I think there's a chance you're
Speaker 5: going to see some true freshmen playing against Navy in
Speaker 5: the defensive secondary, that that red shirted, that did not
Speaker 5: play a snap all season, and you're going to probably
Speaker 5: see a couple of them out there against Navy. That
Speaker 5: is I classify that as less than ideal. Y, so
Speaker 5: you know, it's it's not great, but I think offensively
Speaker 5: they should still be fine. Most of the other offensive
Speaker 5: line is going to be.
Speaker 2: There, Joe Royer's playing.
Speaker 5: My understanding is Cyrus Allen and Jeff Caldwell are gonna play.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 5: You know, Brady Lichtenberg is gonna Nobody deserves a shot
Speaker 5: more than Brady Lichtenberg and he's gonna have most of
Speaker 5: his weapons. So offensively they should be fine. But the
Speaker 5: question is do we get to the end of the
Speaker 5: game and you look and Navy's had forty five minutes
Speaker 5: in time of possession and Cincinnati's had like fourteen and
Speaker 5: a half.
Speaker 4: Are there any like is there a positive to having
Speaker 4: some of those young guys play because they are likely
Speaker 4: to come back next year?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Is it just one game, and it doesn't matter that much,
Speaker 4: like how is the staff viewing this game in terms
Speaker 4: of like the development of those young players.
Speaker 5: You're gonna get to see what you've got with quite
Speaker 5: a few of them. You know, it's not a normal
Speaker 5: game situation playing Navy, but you're gonna have seen them
Speaker 5: for the fifteen Bowl practices. You're gonna get to see
Speaker 5: what they look like in the game. You're gonna see
Speaker 5: how they take to the coaching. You know that there
Speaker 5: are definitely some advantages on defense with getting a look
Speaker 5: at these young guys right as the portal opens, so
Speaker 5: you're gonna get a better idea of what you have.
Speaker 5: You know, there's some guys that I think you know,
Speaker 5: like CJ. Cright at safety is a name that they
Speaker 5: really love, and I think you know, after red shirting
Speaker 5: all year, you're gonna get a chance to see what
Speaker 5: you've gotten in CJ.
Speaker 1: Crite a little bit.
Speaker 5: You're gonna get to look at at Daniel Jones at
Speaker 5: outside corner a little bit more frequently. There's a red
Speaker 5: guy that red shirted this year named Patrick Williams, a
Speaker 5: corner that they really like that you're gonna be able
Speaker 5: to get a look at So it's gonna be beneficial
Speaker 5: in you know, several of these instances where you don't
Speaker 5: have to wait until spring, you know, to find out
Speaker 5: what some of these guys are going to give you,
Speaker 5: especially what are their practice habits, like how do they
Speaker 5: handle going from you know, not playing a whole lot
Speaker 5: to being thrown into the mix. So there is some
Speaker 5: positive that can come from it. Again, the problem though,
Speaker 5: is you're playing the triple option and Navy and I
Speaker 5: don't know how much in the game you can take
Speaker 5: from especially defensive backs. You're going to see how they tackle,
Speaker 5: but I'm not going to get to see a whole
Speaker 5: lot of coverage and you know, playing an advanced like
Speaker 5: passing scheme by any stretch.
Speaker 3: All right, basketball question for you win over Lipscomb last night,
Speaker 3: Now the Big Twelve with Houston on Saturday.
Speaker 2: They play eighteen Big Twelve games.
Speaker 3: If I were to give you an over under on
Speaker 3: Big Twelve wins for UC, if I just off the
Speaker 3: top of my head said seven and a half, how
Speaker 3: would you feel about that number?
Speaker 5: Well, if it was before Gigsel James came back, and
Speaker 5: they have looked, especially offensively, significantly better with Gigsel James
Speaker 5: on the floor. I would have laughed, taken under and
Speaker 5: ran to the bank with whatever you allowed me to bet. Now,
Speaker 5: now i'd say, now that's probably in the right realm.
Speaker 5: Seven to eight. I mean, I still the offense has
Speaker 5: just been so inconsistent that that I don't have a
Speaker 5: great feeling that they get into that eight nine, ten
Speaker 5: win range. Yet it has been better, but it was
Speaker 5: so bad for the first ten games that that that
Speaker 5: has not left my brain. So here's the other problem. Lance.
Speaker 5: They played two seasons in the Big twelve. They won
Speaker 5: seven games both times, one of them with a twenty
Speaker 5: game schedule. Now they're going back to an eighteen game schedule.
Speaker 5: I'd still probably take under, but at least I feel
Speaker 5: a little bit better about things than I did two
Speaker 5: weeks ago.
Speaker 3: I wonder it yet, but I want you to know
Speaker 3: you missed a golden opportunity in the last ninety seconds
Speaker 3: to drop in a six seven and people would have
Speaker 3: gone crazy.
Speaker 5: I could have, but they wore that out at the
Speaker 5: game last night they had six seven games.
Speaker 2: Yes classic, I have a teenage daughter. I'm over Oh.
Speaker 4: Yes, for the kids, all right, map out the itinerary.
Speaker 4: When when do you hit the road.
Speaker 3: It will it be all forces you and Keegan and
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Speaker 5: So we we. I hit the road Thursday morning, hopefully
Speaker 5: by dinner Thursday night. I'm a Gussa's Fried Chicken. That's
Speaker 5: the plan. Keegan and I will both be in Memphis,
Speaker 5: and then Keegan, because he's just a warrior, is gonna
Speaker 5: go back to the I got an Airbnb for both
Speaker 5: of us. He's gonna go back and sleep until like
Speaker 5: three four o'clock in the morning, and then he's gonna
Speaker 5: get up and drive back to Cincinnati for the Houston game.
Speaker 4: Oh oh my gosh, cruel and unusual.
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 5: I mean, you know I did that a lot of
Speaker 5: that stuff back in when I was his age. Anymore,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna stop in Nashville, watch the game in Nashville,
Speaker 5: and I'll catch up later.
Speaker 4: Understood that To clarify, You're going to ride chicken place
Speaker 4: instead of a barbecue place in Memphis?
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 5: Often? Gusses fried chicken is the best fried chicken I've
Speaker 5: ever had. Okay, I'm just wondering, you know, I Mean,
Speaker 5: it's so good it's become a national chain like they're
Speaker 5: they're all over the place now, but one of the
Speaker 5: original locations is in downtown Memphis. You now, people when
Speaker 5: like Cincinnatians, when they leave Cincinnatian and then they come back,
Speaker 5: they go to Skyline. Yes, like before they go home,
Speaker 5: before they do anything, they go to Skyline. That is
Speaker 5: me with guss Fried Chicken. Straight off the Expressway, straight
Speaker 5: to Guss's Fried Chicken. I almost got an airbnb that
Speaker 5: was a block from Gusses like that.
Speaker 2: Probably have that idea.
Speaker 5: Oh no, that's probably a bad idea, so I didn't
Speaker 5: do that. But yes, the fried chicken, the sides, everything
Speaker 5: at Guss's is awesome. That's my go to spot in Memphis.
Speaker 2: The barbecue is good. I'm more of a Texas.
Speaker 5: Barbecue guy than a Memphis barbecue guy.
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Speaker 3: Take a time out, come back. Something Dalton Reisner said
Speaker 3: to Dan Horde I think is worth taking a listen
Speaker 3: to and exploring. And then let's get into some roster breakdown.
Speaker 3: Now we're toggles. I broke down these silly little categories
Speaker 3: and then I just threw some names in each category.
Speaker 3: And then I didn't look at it again, and then
Speaker 3: I looked at it tonight and said, oh, I might
Speaker 3: move some of these names around, but that's what you're
Speaker 3: here for. I'm gonna ask what names we should move
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Speaker 2: Dalton Reisner was.
Speaker 3: Talking about Sunday's game with Dan postgame interview about the
Speaker 3: game and the subject of his future came up.
Speaker 2: He's on a one year deal.
Speaker 3: And I thought it was an interesting public admission of
Speaker 3: how he feels and what his hopes are and what
Speaker 3: became the conversation between Dalton Reisner and Dan Horde. Take
Speaker 3: a listen to part of that exchange on Sunday in
Speaker 3: the locker room.
Speaker 6: This is kind of your opportunity to play with him, healthy,
Speaker 6: looking good. I mean, what's that experience been like for you?
Speaker 2: He's an ultimate competitor.
Speaker 7: I really do love Joe the way that he goes
Speaker 7: out there and slings the football and wants to win
Speaker 7: football games, and how dialed he is.
Speaker 2: You can see why the Bengals are special.
Speaker 7: I mean you kind of just block your tailoff back
Speaker 7: there and then you see the ball get thrown up
Speaker 7: and he's just dropping it in buckets and hitting guys
Speaker 7: right where they need to be hit. So love blocking
Speaker 7: from the guy. I got a tremendous amount of respect
Speaker 7: for him. You can see why he's had the success
Speaker 7: that he's had here in Cincinnati, and.
Speaker 2: I just hope I could be a part of it
Speaker 2: for longer.
Speaker 6: I would assume there's mutual interest in having your return
Speaker 6: based on the way things are going.
Speaker 2: That would be great. Man, Keep pulling for me. Let's
Speaker 2: get these guys to give me a call, man, I
Speaker 2: kind of expect that that's going to happen.
Speaker 6: Congratulations on a great win today, two in a row
Speaker 6: and finished the season with three.
Speaker 2: Next week We'll do God bless you. Thanks Matt for it.
Speaker 3: Interesting comments after the game Dalton Reisner with Dan Horden,
Speaker 3: and I think people forget Dalton Reisner was signed the
Speaker 3: day that the final cutdown day August twenty eighth, and
Speaker 3: ten days later played thirty six snaps in the opener
Speaker 3: against the Cleveland Browns, and it was it was on
Speaker 3: the flight and it was rushed, and he was a
Speaker 3: little shaky early on, as you could understand. Eventually Jalen
Speaker 3: Rivers took over there, and then Jalen, through rookie issues
Speaker 3: and also some injuries, took a step out of that
Speaker 3: spot and and Dalton Reisner back in. But man, he
Speaker 3: has been this stretch to end the season. Dalton Reisner's
Speaker 3: been really good, hasn't he.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think he's been the lynch pin into
Speaker 4: fixing the offensive line. He's been consistent in the past game.
Speaker 4: He's been consistent in the run game. And that's part
Speaker 4: of the reason why Jalen Rivers got benched is he
Speaker 4: wasn't very good, especially in the run game or especially
Speaker 4: in the past game, and Reisner has just provided stability
Speaker 4: to boast. We talked earlier about you know, guys around
Speaker 4: you making them other players better. I think Ted Carris
Speaker 4: has gotten better this year because Dylan Fairchild's been really
Speaker 4: good and Dalton Reiser's been really good, and I think
Speaker 4: that's made a Marius Mims better again. All together, that
Speaker 4: offensive line working together, and I think you know, if
Speaker 4: you follow Dalton and his wife on Twitter, they really
Speaker 4: seem to like being here.
Speaker 2: And it's very rare you hear a player say that.
Speaker 4: What he did to Dan Horde, which is like, yeah,
Speaker 4: keep helping me out. Give you guys to give me
Speaker 4: a call, Like what more could you need if you're
Speaker 4: the Bengals. I think some projectives have him at about
Speaker 4: four and a half to five million dollars a year.
Speaker 2: I would do that. I would do that in a hartbeat.
Speaker 3: He'll be I think I looked it up. He'll be
Speaker 3: thirty one next season. That's not old to me. You
Speaker 3: know what you've got in him. He wants to be here,
Speaker 3: and if you plug him in, maybe get him on one.
Speaker 3: Maybe it has to be a two year deal, but
Speaker 3: it would buy you some time with Jalen Rivers instead
Speaker 3: of having to force Jalen Rivers back into the mix.
Speaker 3: If you say, Jalen, just you know, cool, your jets,
Speaker 3: keep learning, keep improving. Your time will come. Maybe he
Speaker 3: gets dinged up and Jalen replaces him in stretches next year.
Speaker 3: But I don't see it downside. It's not gonna by
Speaker 3: the numbers. It's not gonna break the bank. And if
Speaker 3: you know what he's you know what he's giving you,
Speaker 3: and you've seen the results, and it's as important as
Speaker 3: the offensive line. I'm talking with Dalton Reiser about a deal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you go into the offseason you already
Speaker 4: know offensive line depth is something that has to be addressed. Yes,
Speaker 4: And so if you can look at Jalen Rivers as
Speaker 4: potential depth. Okay, we got a starter in Dalton Reisner.
Speaker 4: Maybe Jalen Rivers can be the guy who's the swing
Speaker 4: tackle at some point because Cody Ford has struggled at that.
Speaker 4: It means obviously a great wide receiver, but he's struggled
Speaker 4: a little bit at being the swing tackle. Offensive Line
Speaker 4: depth is a need this offseason. You can cross off
Speaker 4: one of the biggest issues with the signing of Dalton
Speaker 4: Reisner at a relatively team friendly deal, And I just
Speaker 4: I don't think you could afford to go into next
Speaker 4: season if you don't re sign Reisner and just crossing
Speaker 4: your fingers and hoping on Jalen Rivers. Yeah, they simply
Speaker 4: can't afford that scenario with Joe Burrow as well as
Speaker 4: they played collective as a you know, with Reisner, I
Speaker 4: don't know how you'd sit there and roll that ice
Speaker 4: say well, we'll take our chances with Jalen Rivers.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, it would be foolish. Yeah, it's as simple as that.
Speaker 3: All right, let me lead into we'll do the first
Speaker 3: level of this, then we'll transition after the news. But
Speaker 3: I was put in together just a list of how
Speaker 3: I feel about players going into next season, and I
Speaker 3: just randomly picked categories in my top category would be
Speaker 3: the guys I feel great about, then the guys I
Speaker 3: feel really good about, then pretty good about, and then
Speaker 3: okay with, and then have my doubts about, and then
Speaker 3: I'm out on just randomly selected those categories who and
Speaker 3: I've given you this list. I put four names in
Speaker 3: the guys I would feel great right about without even blinking,
Speaker 3: and those I think the first three at least are
Speaker 3: fairly obvious Burrow, Chase Higgins, and I put Evan McPherson
Speaker 3: in there. Are you okay with me putting Evan McPherson
Speaker 3: among four that we feel great.
Speaker 2: About for next season? Yes, I am all right.
Speaker 3: When we come back, I'm gonna go to level two,
Speaker 3: the guys we feel really good about.
Speaker 4: There's one person you have in really good about that
Speaker 4: I think should be in that top two.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's good, And there is the longer I've looked
Speaker 3: at this this week, and again I just threw names
Speaker 3: into categories on Sunday and then forgot to go back
Speaker 3: and maybe rearrange some names. But I'm interested in your
Speaker 3: thoughts on level two as we continue. But we are perfectly.
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Speaker 3: We'll continue on in our last segment with just a
Speaker 3: general breakdown of how we feel about players. My level
Speaker 3: one was great about, no questions whatsoever. That's Burrow, Chase Higgins,
Speaker 3: and McPherson. Level two would be the guys we feel
Speaker 3: really good about. Could I make one change before I
Speaker 3: announce it, I'm gonna move Chase Brown up to my
Speaker 3: great about category?
Speaker 2: Is that the one you were thinking about all right.
Speaker 3: In my really good about I had Chase Brown, Amarius Mimes,
Speaker 3: DJ Turner, Dax Hill. I might move my Keasiki down. No,
Speaker 3: I feel well, No, I'm undecided on Kasiki. What do
Speaker 3: you think about that? Well, if you if you're undecided,
Speaker 3: then you might move him down. You move him down to?
Speaker 3: Okay with wouldn't you?
Speaker 2: You're under good?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 2: Pretty good of him? Okay, pretty good about it.
Speaker 3: It'll feel really good about him because of age and injury.
Speaker 3: I feel pretty good about him. So I moved him
Speaker 3: down one level, Okay, and you move Chase Brown up? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm fine with that. For me, I would move a
Speaker 3: Marius Mims up to that feel great about And I
Speaker 3: know he's, you know, still relatively young. But think about it, Lance,
Speaker 3: how bad did the offense look on Sunday against a
Speaker 3: terrible Arizona team when a Marius.
Speaker 2: Mims went out?
Speaker 4: That might be an indictment, an indictment on Cody Ford,
Speaker 4: but maybe it's a reminder of how good a Marius
Speaker 4: Mims is. And we never really said his name hardly
Speaker 4: at all this season, And that's exactly what you want
Speaker 4: out of your starting right tackle. And this dude has
Speaker 4: already played more snaps in the NFL than he ever
Speaker 4: did at the University of Georgia. He's still just twenty
Speaker 4: three years old. He's a mountain of a man. He's
Speaker 4: not gonna turn twenty four until midway through next season.
Speaker 4: I think the Bengals, as much as we have criticized
Speaker 4: them for their inability to draft, I think they hit
Speaker 4: a home run on a Marius Mims and I feel
Speaker 4: like he's the future at right tackle.
Speaker 3: All right, that's now, that's a worthy case being made.
Speaker 3: How about level three? Pretty good about?
Speaker 2: Guys?
Speaker 3: Feel pretty good about? I put Miles Murphy there is that? Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's good. I put Jordan Battle there. Sure feel pretty
Speaker 3: and I think you made a great point earlier. I
Speaker 3: feel even better with him if you got him a
Speaker 3: really good safety to be back there with him. Dylan
Speaker 3: Fairchild pretty good about.
Speaker 2: Maybe might even might even move him.
Speaker 3: Up to really good about. No, I'll stay pretty good. Okay,
Speaker 3: I feel pretty good. And then it probably a surprise
Speaker 3: to you, Ryan Rico, Yeah, this I wanted to do
Speaker 3: maybe the whole two hours about this. You called me
Speaker 3: before the show a flip flopper because I had changed
Speaker 3: my opinion on something, and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: you want to speak, you know, positive things about Ryan Reco.
Speaker 4: Just settle down here for a second. And that's not
Speaker 4: flip flopping.
Speaker 3: I always say I reserve the right to adjust an
Speaker 3: opinion based on the evidence presented. And the evidence presented
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks is Ryan Rico is much
Speaker 3: more than a just boot the heck out of it
Speaker 3: and see where it lands. He was inside the twenty
Speaker 3: all four times two weeks ago. Two those inside the ten,
Speaker 3: and I think he had a kick inside the twenty
Speaker 3: or maybe the ten. That's the only issue I ever
Speaker 3: had with I get he's got.
Speaker 2: A really powerful leg.
Speaker 3: Leads the league, I think that, but he also led
Speaker 3: the league in touchbacks, which kind of defeats the purpose
Speaker 3: a lot. So because he's closed the gap of those deficiencies,
Speaker 3: I'm willing to put him on.
Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about, okay.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm glad that you're you have an open mind.
Speaker 4: Some people choose to that's right, that's right, And I
Speaker 4: was excited to see Ryan Rico rise through the ranks
Speaker 4: up the pretty good about.
Speaker 3: He'll be excited to know too, guys. I feel okay
Speaker 3: with okay. So again we've got great.
Speaker 4: About, really good about, pretty good about, and now I
Speaker 4: feel okay about And I might underrate this dj Ivy.
Speaker 2: I might move him.
Speaker 4: Up a little bit. I might move him with pretty
Speaker 4: good about. I mean, he seems to have found a
Speaker 4: role and the way they're using him, and uh yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw Charlie Goldsmith's posts earlier
Speaker 4: this week about dj Ivy, but basically, he's had something
Speaker 4: like one hundred and seventy eight total snaps in his
Speaker 4: career and allowed two first down catches and they were
Speaker 4: both garbage time against the Miami Dolphins a couple of
Speaker 4: weeks ago. And the way that he's specifically on third
Speaker 4: downs has become a third down stopper ninety nine third
Speaker 4: down snaps in the NFL forty nine this year. He's
Speaker 4: never allowed a first down catch, and he was all
Speaker 4: over Trey McBride on Sunday. He's just set the NFL
Speaker 4: record for receptions by a tight end and he was
Speaker 4: not targeted on those plays that dj Ivy was covering
Speaker 4: in back to Trey Flowers when the Bengals were good
Speaker 4: in twenty one and twenty two, having that guy to
Speaker 4: be the tight end stopper. I do think although the
Speaker 4: competition has not been great, Miami has a really good
Speaker 4: tight end in Darren Waller. Arizona has maybe the best
Speaker 4: tight end in the NFL. And and Trey McBride and
Speaker 4: the Bengals limited the damage that those two guys did.
Speaker 4: That's something to take away from these two wins. And
Speaker 4: dj Ivy having a role in that I think is important.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm doing.
Speaker 3: I'm moving dj Ivy up to feel great about oh
Speaker 3: after you said that.
Speaker 2: He goes all way up to the time, all the
Speaker 2: way up to the time. All right, I'm moving stuff
Speaker 2: around here as well. I've got to true sample. I'm
Speaker 2: okay with yeah, just a guy.
Speaker 3: I've got Tanner Hudson, okay with I've got Josh Newton.
Speaker 3: I'm okay with Josh Newton, Jaylen Davis. I want to
Speaker 3: love even more, but I'm not prepared to move on
Speaker 3: with the pretty good about.
Speaker 4: I'm okay with Jalen and that's okay to be okay.
Speaker 4: I would move Jalen up to pretty good about okay.
Speaker 4: He's one of the best tacklers on this defense. He's
Speaker 4: shown the ability to play the slot in that nickel role,
Speaker 4: especially with Dax Hill on the outside. Yep, I don't
Speaker 4: know what took so long for Jayleen Davis from the
Speaker 4: practice squad. I remember doing segments about him during the preseason,
Speaker 4: talking about how this guy needs to be on the field,
Speaker 4: and he never saw the field. And I think he's
Speaker 4: really well respected in that locker.
Speaker 2: Room as well.
Speaker 3: I have set Johnson on that list, had a sack
Speaker 3: with help from a nice pressure from Isaiah Foski on Sunday.
Speaker 3: And then I've got you know, Will Wagner. Most people
Speaker 3: don't even know who Will Wagner is. He's their snapper.
Speaker 3: I've got Cody Ford okay with, maybe have my doubts. Well, no,
Speaker 3: he gets okay with because he had the twenty one.
Speaker 2: Jewels.
Speaker 3: So there, you know what is As I'm doing all this,
Speaker 3: you know who this list would drive have driven absolutely bonkers.
Speaker 3: He would have lost his mind. I'd pay to be
Speaker 3: able to go back in time and have this conversation
Speaker 3: with Bob Trumpy when I created my own list, and
Speaker 3: he would look at me and say.
Speaker 4: You you've clearly never played the game before. He'd loved
Speaker 4: that card, and then he'd laugh and then he'd say,
Speaker 4: this may be the most ridiculous list I have ever
Speaker 4: seen put together. I think in this particular category and
Speaker 4: the okay with, there are three guys that over the
Speaker 4: last month have carved themselves out rolls for the twenty
Speaker 4: twenty six Pagles. All right, dj Ivy as you mentioned,
Speaker 4: Jalen Davis as we mentioned, and set Johnson as that
Speaker 4: rotational pass rusher that can maybe come in on third
Speaker 4: downs and maybe be on the inside, be on the outside,
Speaker 4: move guys around. This dude was awesome at the end
Speaker 4: of last year. He had that injury. At the beginning
Speaker 4: of this year, he's already had an impact on that
Speaker 4: defense and the limited snaps he's gotten.
Speaker 2: I like that dude. Guys.
Speaker 3: I have my doubts about Shamar Stewart certainly is that fair?
Speaker 3: I have Barrett Carter, I have my doubts about him.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: I might be willing to move Dimitris Knight Junior up
Speaker 3: to okay with, but I hesitate. I still have doubts
Speaker 3: about him. I want to like him, but he's older
Speaker 3: and he's come on late. I'm gonna leave him in.
Speaker 3: I have my doubts about Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm right there with you, I don't feel good about
Speaker 4: either one of these linebackers. No matter what happens this
Speaker 4: week or what's happened in the last three weeks.
Speaker 3: They're gonna have to bring in it. And it can't
Speaker 3: be a draftic. They're gonna have to spend money on
Speaker 3: a veteran live back.
Speaker 4: I agree at least because even we had the conversation
Speaker 4: earlier about TJ. Slayton, he's looked good the last two weeks.
Speaker 4: These guys haven't like they really have. Demetrius Knight okay
Speaker 4: against Ravens a few weeks ago, but Barrett Carter's still
Speaker 4: getting shook out of his shoes, still in the wrong position,
Speaker 4: not reading his keys, still falling behind guys. He just
Speaker 4: doesn't seem like he's ready and this has all been
Speaker 4: too much for him. But you're right that that position
Speaker 4: needs veterans in it badly. I mean, obviously, Logan Wilson
Speaker 4: is gone, a Keith Davis gather has gone. All those guys,
Speaker 4: they need somebody that can show those dudes the row.
Speaker 2: I've got Yoshi in this list, have my doubts about it.
Speaker 4: I want to like it, and he drives me crazy
Speaker 4: because he'll have a catch the in I say okay,
Speaker 4: and then we'll have a drop and I'll say come on,
Speaker 4: and it just it seems like that just rotates from
Speaker 4: game to gabe, and that's too inconsistent for a guy
Speaker 4: in his third season. With Jamar and t on the
Speaker 4: outside and the coverages that they demand, You've got to
Speaker 4: be able to win some one on ones if you're
Speaker 4: andre O Savash and he doesn't do that enough. And
Speaker 4: I know this would drive some Bengals fans crazy, but
Speaker 4: one of my hot takes is if Carnell Tait's available at.
Speaker 2: Number ten, number eleven, maybe number eight.
Speaker 4: If the Bengals lose, maybe you should take Carnell Tait
Speaker 4: and put him in at that number three wide receiver.
Speaker 4: If not, I think that's a position that you address
Speaker 4: in free agency or in the draft.
Speaker 2: The Bengals are really good.
Speaker 4: At drafting receivers and give some challenges to Andre Jose Vash.
Speaker 4: And I do wonder if Mitchell Tinsley comes back and
Speaker 4: maybe has a full offseason, if that's more of a
Speaker 4: camp battle next year.
Speaker 3: All right, in the interest of time, I'll move quickly.
Speaker 3: The rest of my have my doubts about I've got
Speaker 3: Orlando Brown Junior, Ted Carris and Charlie Jones fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, three for three on that one, all right?
Speaker 3: And then I'm out on and I hesitate now because
Speaker 3: TJ had a good game and don't. I'm out on TJ.
Speaker 3: They just need more in the interior and TJ Slaton's
Speaker 3: not been enough, so I'm out on him. I'm out
Speaker 3: on Oron Burks.
Speaker 4: Thought it was interesting Aaron Burks and Will played five
Speaker 4: defensive snaps on Sunday and who am I blanking on?
Speaker 2: Somebody else got sixteen?
Speaker 3: A younger guy also on Specialty, Oh Giles, Joe J.
Speaker 3: Giles Harris played sixteen defensive snaps, which is a career high.
Speaker 3: I found that interesting. I'm out on McKinley Jackson, I'm
Speaker 3: out on Chris Jenkins, and I'm out on Jake Browning.
Speaker 2: I agree with all of those, all right. What an
Speaker 2: exercise we put together?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 3: More rapid fire because they're free agents. Joseph O'SAI. We
Speaker 3: don't believe fifteen million a year for him? Is that
Speaker 3: what we concluded?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't think so, don't rise a yes, yes, Kam
Speaker 3: Taylor Britt absolutely not. Did I see a projection of
Speaker 3: Kam Taylor Britt somewhere in the neighborhood of fifteen million
Speaker 3: a year.
Speaker 2: I think you did.
Speaker 3: Whoever pays Cam Taylor Britt fifteen million dollars a year,
Speaker 3: God bless you.
Speaker 4: We had somebody today say move him to safety your thoughts.
Speaker 3: I would move him too safety for any other team
Speaker 3: in the NFL, but I would move him off the
Speaker 3: roster here.
Speaker 4: Uh no offense, eh kay, I depend on the money. Okay,
Speaker 4: I'd be okay with that. Trey Henderson. No, Joe Flacco
Speaker 4: I would love to have. I'll be curious to see
Speaker 4: how he view what kind of opportunities he has, because
Speaker 4: I'd love to have him.
Speaker 2: Here is Joe's back up.
Speaker 3: I wonder, in a day and age where young quarterbacks
Speaker 3: aren't figuring things out, if somebody would give him a
Speaker 3: starting job.
Speaker 4: The Philip Rivers effect, that Joe Flacco effect. Even what
Speaker 4: we've seen from Kirk Cousins with the Falcons over the
Speaker 4: last few games, there's gonna be a market for those
Speaker 4: older quarterbacks. I would love to have Flacco back. It
Speaker 4: feels like a bit of a long shot.
Speaker 2: Cam sample. Uh, I'm good.
Speaker 4: Uh we answered the uh the stone question? You know
Speaker 4: he's out cam Grandy Tinsley.
Speaker 2: I'm intrigued by Mitchell Tinsley.
Speaker 3: Okay, uh, Tyson Anderson special teamer. Clearly he's not. They
Speaker 3: don't believe he's an answer in.
Speaker 4: The second Yeah, safety Robull caliber special teamer, but never
Speaker 4: once got a chance on defense.
Speaker 2: I think that says a lot.
Speaker 3: Lucas Patrick back his depth on the offensive line. Yes,
Speaker 3: I would like see that Bolson I've brought about.
Speaker 4: I completely forgot about Cordell Volson and Marcus Wilson depth.
Speaker 2: Surefied. If the money's right, I don't have any problem.
Speaker 4: I think this offseason we need to have more conversations
Speaker 4: about depths.
Speaker 2: A great question about to have great depth? No question?
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Speaker 2: Holy cow, who are you rooting for?
Speaker 3: I kind of default to rooting to rooting for anybody
Speaker 3: that plays the Steelers. I just don't want the Steelers
Speaker 3: to win the division, so I guess I'm rooting for Baltimore.
Speaker 4: I think it would be funny if Tyler Huntley played
Speaker 4: really well and they win, and then Lamar comes back
Speaker 4: to the playoffs and they lose.
Speaker 2: They lose.
Speaker 3: I think we've taken care of that set, so let's
Speaker 3: come back and wrap it up with the little college
Speaker 3: football to put the final finishing touches on all this.
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Speaker 2: And now I think I think once.
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Speaker 3: giving him back. I think she's gonna listen every week
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Speaker 3: Yeah, could you see the Fran and Phyllis show nine
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Speaker 3: would be big. All right, I'm gonna run out of
Speaker 3: time here. Let's do our first look at Sunday's opponent.
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Speaker 3: The only question I will pose from all of that
Speaker 3: is how much would you, if at all, play Joe Burrow?
Speaker 4: Do you remember Joe Burrow's first ever preseason game against
Speaker 4: the Miami Dolphins. He handed the ball off twice and
Speaker 4: threw a smoke screen to Jamar Chase and he was done.
Speaker 4: They should do the exact same thing on Sunday if
Speaker 4: he if he is so adamant about playing, I don't
Speaker 4: want him to play more than a series. I want
Speaker 4: him to hand the ball on it as a preseason
Speaker 4: treated as a preseason game. It felt like a preseason
Speaker 4: game against Arizona yesterday or someday. That's how you got
Speaker 4: to treat it as far as I'm concerned. Give Flacco
Speaker 4: a chance, maybe get Browning a chance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be inclined to at the start of
Speaker 3: the week, which was all I guess. Yesterday, I was thinking,
Speaker 3: maybe the first half, turn it over to Joe Flacco
Speaker 3: to face his former team. In the second half, I
Speaker 3: might be understanding of a quarter with Joe or a
Speaker 3: couple of.
Speaker 2: Drives, and then that's it. I just I've seen it
Speaker 2: and it's not I've.
Speaker 3: Argued all along, players play, and I wanted Joe to
Speaker 3: return to play.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 3: I think as well as he is played in this stretch,
Speaker 3: it's almost like box checked.
Speaker 2: I'm good. I don't need to see anymore.
Speaker 3: So if if you give me maybe a drive and
Speaker 3: hand it off, I think I'd lean your way and
Speaker 3: be good with it.
Speaker 4: I had the same thought earlier today. It's like, you've
Speaker 4: proven what you've needed to prove. You came back, you
Speaker 4: found a way to play, you gave it your all,
Speaker 4: you rebounded from the awful game against the Ravens. Everybody
Speaker 4: knows who you are and what this is supposed to
Speaker 4: look like. You just can't risk with all the stuff
Speaker 4: that has to happen this offseason, you can't risk doing
Speaker 4: that again with an injured Joe Burrow. And I agree
Speaker 4: with you, players should play. I agree with all of that,
Speaker 4: And it's just I also don't want Miles Garrett to
Speaker 4: destroy him, to set the record and get that sack.
Speaker 4: Rather that be against Joe Flaco or Jake Browning. And
Speaker 4: I don't think Joe Burrow is gonna be Michael Strahan
Speaker 4: to Brett Farv and just lay down for Miles Murphy
Speaker 4: either or for Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I've seen enough. I'm done. I'm good.
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Speaker 3: Rocky is on assignment. I honestly don't remember which game
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Speaker 3: that will lead us into our final thoughts in the
Speaker 3: college football playoffs. Your Buckeyes will play tomorrow night, first
Speaker 3: time in twenty five days. My goodness, Please condense this
Speaker 3: schedule next season, get rid of buys, do whatever you
Speaker 3: have to do, but I'll ask you again one week later.
Speaker 3: How do you feel tomorrow night, when you're gonna be
Speaker 3: banging pots and pans and eating Buckeyes. How do you
Speaker 3: feel about your buck Eyes against the hurricane. I think
Speaker 3: I feel a little bit better right now than I
Speaker 3: did a week ago. I believe in Jeremiah Smith, I
Speaker 3: believe in Matt Patricia. With twenty five days to prepare
Speaker 3: in I guess twelve and a half days or whatever
Speaker 3: it is to prepare for the Miami Hurricanes, I think
Speaker 3: Ohio State has more talent than Miami has seen.
Speaker 4: At any point this season. I got the buck Eyes,
Speaker 4: but I do think Miami covers. I think it's a
Speaker 4: seven to ten point game.
Speaker 2: All right. You know what I would do?
Speaker 3: My final thought on all the college football I was
Speaker 3: thinking about this because January twenty third is the deadline
Speaker 3: to make their recommendation for what.
Speaker 2: They're gonna do next. I would do.
Speaker 3: I would expand to sixteen teams. I get rid of
Speaker 3: the buys, I get rid of conference championship games. I
Speaker 3: do home field for the first round and the second round,
Speaker 3: and that would squeeze. I would squeeze the schedule and
Speaker 3: say nobody's going twenty six days be between all days,
Speaker 3: because this thing is just dragged on, just dragged on.
Speaker 4: I don't love all that, but I can I can
Speaker 4: get with it as long as we get rid of
Speaker 4: automatic qualifiers as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean as well.
Speaker 4: All right, we're I got Georgia, I got Alabama, I
Speaker 4: got Texas Tech as well.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, you're taking Alabama to be Joe Bonn Hills, Hoosier.
Speaker 2: Give me the time you're out of here. I was
Speaker 2: enjoying this until now. This was fun.
Speaker 3: Thank you for filling in for Rockets having Thank you
Speaker 3: everybody for being a part of the show throughout the year.
Speaker 3: Stick around the West Miller Show is next. Happy New Year, everybody.
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