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Where Live at Long Mixed Wilder, 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: presented by post Foot Law Lance MacAllister alongside Tonight Not 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: Rocky Boyman. Rocky's on assignment. I just can't remember which 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 3: game he's doing. I just know he told me he's 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: on a Simon, he's got a game. I think he's 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 3: got a game tonight, and then he's got the uc 22 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: game on Friday, but in his place for the second 23 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 3: consecutive week, which must mean he didn't screw up last 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: week if they brought him back this week. He is 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 3: the main who's very happy to have Buckeyes tonight, delivered 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 3: by Fran and his lovely wife Phyllis. As we all 27 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: got Buckeyes tonight, I want to kick off to the show. 28 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: We welcome in the man you hear weekdays three to 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 3: six or I'm noon to three, noone to three on 30 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 3: Since he three sixty, that's a lot of numbers and 31 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: in various capacities and roles on seven hundred WLW, that 32 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 3: would be Austin Illmore Lance. 33 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: I'm great, thanks for having me. 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 4: Happy to be back, and I feel like the Buckeyes 35 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 4: as a gift is a sign for things to come. 36 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: Tomorrow night in Arlington, Texas, you can just kick back 37 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 4: and eat Buckeyes all night. Pretty much the plan. 38 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: Life is good. Let me do some headlines. We can go. 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: Bengals return to the practice field to ramp up preparation 40 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: for Sunday's finale against the Browns at pay Court tomorrow. 41 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: The moment, the Bengals would pick tenth in the draft 42 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: and could move up as high as eight, drop as 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: low as twelve. Wille Anderson and Luke Keigley among fifteen 44 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: finalists for the Pro Football Hall of Fame in the 45 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: Modern Era Players category, with the class of twenty twenty six. 46 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: Five others, including Ken Anderson, among consideration in the seniors category. 47 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 3: Results will be announced super Bowl weekend college football action. 48 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: Coastal Carolina falls to Louisiana Tech this afternoon. Tech wins 49 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: twenty three to fourteen in the Independence Bowl underway at 50 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: the moment in the Music City Bowl, Tennessee in Illinois. 51 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 3: Later tonight, USC and TCU in the Valero Bowl. College 52 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: football playoffs finally resume tomorrow night, so Ohio State versus 53 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 3: Miami and the Cotton Bowl at seven thirty. 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: Hear it right here on seven. 55 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 3: Hundred WLWUC football in Memphis. Tonight they take on Navy 56 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: Friday in the Liberty Bowl. They'll do it without running 57 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 3: back Evan Pryor, who has entered the transfer portal. More 58 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: on the Bearcats, with Chad Brendle coming up at seven 59 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: oh six. College basketball. The Bearcats rolled Lipscomb last night. 60 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 3: Talk about it tonight after us with the West Miller 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: Show at eight in preview Saturday's Big twelve opener at 62 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: home versus Houston on the court tonight Travis Steele. They 63 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: thirteen to o Miami RedHawks at Bowling Green. 64 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: And Mac Action Maction. 65 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: Louisville is at cal In Ohio at Central Michigan. Tomorrow night, 66 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: Xavier host number four Yukon at five o'clock. It's right 67 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: here on seven hundred WLW. The ecl has a new CBA. 68 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: So the Clones are back and busy this week. Home 69 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: tomorrow night with indoor fireworks for the six o'clock New 70 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: Year's Eve matchup versus Indy. Then it's the Kelly Cup 71 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: throwback Jerseys back to back nights Friday seven thirty against 72 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: Toledo and Saturday four o'clock against Toledo. 73 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: All right, that's quick check on some headline. 74 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: Did you say indoor fireworks? Indoor fireworks? Yes tomorrow night, Yes, yes, it's. 75 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: The only indoor fireworks around. 76 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: Makes me a little bit downtown. Let's take our first 77 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: time out. We come back to the man they call 78 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: Trags checks in. We talk some Bengals on the beat 79 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: with Mike Petralia's we continue the roundtable show seven hundred 80 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 3: WLW six seven hundred WLW the Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered 81 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: by TOFT Shouting Roundtable Show. We're live from Long mex 82 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: and Wilder presented by Postman Law, the wrap up show 83 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: of the season as we lead into Bengals and Browns 84 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: wrapping up the season. On Sunday, we were in search 85 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: of Trags Mike Petralia from CLNS SINCI withthey dot Com. 86 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: Hope to hook up with him. 87 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: We've got Chad Brendle on the way coming up at 88 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: seven oh six to night to talk some UC football. 89 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: Let's talk some Bengals in the moment and on Sunday, 90 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: I thought Austin they did. They did exactly what you 91 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 3: would hope they would do to a team that was 92 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: beat up, banged up, beaten down, had to travel cross country, 93 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: take care of them early score on the opening drive 94 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 3: and maybe gave them a little bit of reason to 95 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: play after the thirty eight yard disastrous mistackle Trio along 96 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 3: the sidelines gave them a little bit of life, but 97 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: then took care of business and ultimately did what you 98 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: should do to the Arizona Carnivals. 99 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 100 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 4: I think that's the big takeaway really, is the fact 101 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 4: that you know, they did what they were supposed to do. 102 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 4: If they had squeaked out a seventeen thirteen win, we'd 103 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: be having a much different conversation right now. And I 104 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 4: think that's the thing that you really take away from 105 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 4: each of the last two games, which has been they 106 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 4: dominated an opponent, that they are much better than they 107 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 4: have more talent than, they have a better quarterback. I 108 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 4: think they have a better head coach than both those teams. 109 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 4: They did what they were supposed to do to a 110 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 4: inferior opponent at home, and they deserve credit for doing so, 111 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 4: for meeting the standard that has been established. 112 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: Now, obviously that's a team that's not very good. 113 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 4: I think Moeger described it as the NFL's version of 114 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 4: an FCS opponent, and I think that's accurate. But you 115 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 4: can't control who lines up across from Yeah, and I 116 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 4: get and we talked a little bit about this last week. 117 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 4: I get the default position of most who say it. 118 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: Doesn't matter or it will lead to the front office 119 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 3: believing everything's okay. 120 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: I get that that's fair that's earned. 121 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: But for the moment, I can't do anything about the 122 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: offseason hasn't happened. 123 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: I can only work on what they're doing now. 124 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 3: The way they've looked the last two weeks is how 125 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: they should look against those teams, and let's go offensively, specifically, 126 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: they have looked like the well oiled machine that we 127 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 3: thought they could be and is a very dangerous offense. 128 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: I don't care who they're playing. Yeah, I'm looking at. 129 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 4: The way they have performed as an offense and it's 130 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 4: been high level. 131 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 132 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 4: I think it doesn't matter necessarily who the players are. 133 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: You're gonna get a similar scheme in trying to double 134 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: team Jamar Chase, double team t Higgins, and then it's like, okay, well, 135 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 4: what's Andre Josevas gonna do, what's Mikasiki gonna do? And 136 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 4: how are you gonna stop Chase Brown? And the Bengals 137 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 4: have done a great job of the all of those weapons, now, 138 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 4: I think is sick. He had two catches for forty yards, 139 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 4: but one of them was on a broken play deep 140 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 4: down the field. Joe Burrow found him, converted a third down, 141 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 4: kept the drive alive. You're right, I think if anything 142 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 4: this last month or so has proven to us, Okay, 143 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 4: it still works. It still looks like what it's supposed 144 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 4: to look like when Joe Burrow is healthy, when the 145 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 4: big three are on the field together. That's something to 146 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 4: build around. And I don't know about you, but it 147 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 4: furthered my belief that Joe Burrow shouldn't play this week 148 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 4: against the Cleveland Browns because okay, yes, we were reminded 149 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: it still looks like that. 150 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: It's fine. 151 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: Well, we'll get into the Browns and Joe and that 152 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 3: great debate of how much should Joe play, how much 153 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: he should play? In a bit, let me let me 154 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: while I'm thinking about let me let me ask something 155 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: that raction to what Charlie Goldsmith, our guy said earlier 156 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: this week. And then we'll continue searching for trags. But 157 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 3: in the moment, this is a good tie in. And 158 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: Charlie tweeted the following I think it was yesterday, and 159 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: he said this doesn't change the degree to which the 160 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: Bengals need to improve their defense. But had Joe Burrow 161 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: not suffered the two injury, I think the Bengals would 162 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: have won the division. Now, before everybody gets all bent 163 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: out of shape and says what they want to say 164 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: about the defense. Charlie added, Now he says, now in 165 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: the playoffs, the defensive flaws would have shown up. A 166 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: playoff game would have felt like the game at Buffalo, 167 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: but the Bengals would be in the dance. That also 168 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: informs what they need from the defense next year. The 169 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: unit can't just be passable. It needs to be able 170 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: to win a playoff game for you. Let me go 171 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: back to his original thought that, had Joe Burrow not 172 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: suffered the two injury, is this team the AFC North 173 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: champion in your mind? 174 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so. 175 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: So there's six and ten right now, right, six and 176 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 3: ten right now? Yes, to be division champ this year. 177 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: Technically you could be nine and eight. So that's three 178 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: more wins. We're saying for arguments. If Joe Burrow doesn't 179 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: get hurt and Joe missed what nine games because they 180 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: went one and eight? 181 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 2: So is that are three more doable? Yes? 182 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: I think so. Do you think they lose the Jets game? 183 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 4: Do you think they lose the Bears game? I mean, 184 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 4: obviously the Buffalo game was a bit of a fluke, 185 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 4: but they were better than the Green Bay Packers for 186 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 4: a point, in that game at lambeau Field. Yes, they 187 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 4: could have won that game. I don't think they would 188 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 4: have turned the ball over five times against the Minnesota Vikings. 189 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 4: Don't know that they would have won that game, but 190 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 4: would agree with that if you assume they're going to 191 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 4: beat the Cleveland Browns this week. There's one yeah here 192 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 4: my only and I I thought it was a real 193 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 4: I thought it was a great statement by Charlie Haus. 194 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 4: It made me think because to answer to answer and 195 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 4: agree with him and say they would be the division champs. 196 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: It'd be one thing if in most of. 197 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 3: The losses they struggled to score, and yet they lost 198 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: a game scoring thirty seven, lost a game scoring thirty nine, 199 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 3: lost a game scoring forty seven, And I mean, I'm 200 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: sorry giving up yeah for scoring forty two, thirty eight, 201 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 3: thirty one. So would in the games where they put 202 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: up a lot of points and lost, how much of 203 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 3: a difference would Joe have made? You see what I'm saying. Yeah, 204 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 3: I see what you're saying. 205 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: And I don't. I don't know if I can convince 206 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: myself that they're a playoff team. If Joe didn't get hurt. 207 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 4: I think the offensive efficiency would have just been a 208 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 4: tick more and it would have been maybe one more 209 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 4: possession leads to three more points or one less possession 210 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 4: for the opposing team, because the Bengals can run the 211 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 4: football effectively with Joe Burrow in the threat of the 212 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 4: wide receivers, and that means that the other team doesn't 213 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 4: touch the ball, meaning more complimentary football. So that's that's 214 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 4: how I view it. I also think that Patriots game, 215 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 4: if he plays, they probably win it. If Jamar Chase plays, 216 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 4: even without Burrow, they probably win that game. 217 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: And that's the game. 218 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: That's the game in the grouping where I say that's 219 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: the one I can easily flip. 220 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, if Joe's the quarterback. Yeah. 221 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 4: And you know, I think, honestly, you could look at 222 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 4: the Thursday night game against the Steelers and that could 223 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 4: have flipped either way based off the way Aaron Rodgers 224 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 4: was playing in that game. But I think early on 225 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 4: against the Lions they had a chance, but they kept 226 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 4: turning the ball over. Could that have been a different game. 227 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 4: Those are hard to say, just because of how deep 228 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 4: in it they were with Jake Browning at the time. 229 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: And I do believe Charlie's statement to be true. 230 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: And here's the I mean, think of this, here's the killer, 231 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 3: and it's why they missing out on this season. In 232 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: a season where Patrick Mahomes isn't in the playoffs and 233 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson may not be in the playoffs, We're sitting 234 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: here arguing, if Joe doesn't get hurt, they're nine and 235 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: eight in a division champ. 236 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: That's all. It would have taken. Nine wins. 237 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 3: But at the start of the season, had you said 238 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: they'd go nine and eight, we said, well, then the 239 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: season's gone south. They're going to be better than nine 240 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 3: and eight. And that's all they would have taken. 241 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, all they needed to do was be the team 242 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 4: they were last year. Oh yes, if they were the 243 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 4: team they were last year, they'd be in the playoffs 244 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 4: right now. It's it's it's amazing how similar to me 245 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 4: it feels than a year ago from a year ago, 246 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 4: because it is one possession here, one player there, one 247 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 4: player misses this play, whatever it might be, and that 248 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 4: kept them out of at least contending with the AFC. 249 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: And just think they and I go back to Jake 250 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: Browning and boy from from how we viewed Jake to 251 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: where Jake's Jak is right now, and what his future is. 252 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 2: I remember when Joe first got. 253 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: Hurt, we were all quoting, like the storyline was, well, 254 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 3: he may be the thirty third best. Question, He's at 255 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 3: least the thirty third best quarterback in the NFL. He's 256 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 3: brother the best backup quarterback. And he went out for 257 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: three games and looked like he never played the game before. 258 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't. They were non competitive for three weeks 259 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: with Jake Brown. 260 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: I remember before the season somebody from ESPN wrote the 261 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 4: best backup quarterbacks in the NFL. He was number two 262 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 4: behind Kirk Cousins, and I was thinking, all right, great, 263 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 4: And then on top of that, when Burrow goes down, 264 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 4: he leads this comeback win yep, at the very last 265 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 4: second to win. You're like, all right, we're gonna be fine. 266 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 4: Just get Joe back, we'll be fine. 267 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: And you're right. 268 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 4: He did look like he never played football before. I 269 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 4: have no explanation for that. Appreciated how aggressive he was. 270 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 4: He was always willing to push it and not afraid 271 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 4: of that, but that that hurt him ended up ended 272 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 4: up hurting him more than it helped him, and obviously 273 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 4: hurt the team. 274 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: And I remember thinking, remember when we went through the 275 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: whole debate when Joe first got hurt, well, is he 276 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 3: gonna come back at all? Could he come back for 277 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 3: the final three? And we were all doing the math, like, okay, 278 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: with Flacco down control, can he be five hundred and 279 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: just keep him alive till Joe comes back? 280 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: And they went without Joe, they went one and eight. Yeah, 281 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: I mean, just saying. 282 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 3: That out loud, this team still with Jamar, Chase and 283 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: t Higgins and Mike Kasicki and Jamar and Chase Brown 284 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 3: and at the time Trey Hendrickson was healthy. That that 285 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: that they went on and eight without their starting quarterback. 286 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 287 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 4: Do you think if Trey Hendrickson was healthy. 288 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 2: They went there? That's a good question too. 289 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 4: I think if Trey Hendrickson was healthy, they would have 290 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: beat the Chicago Bears. 291 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: I would say that because you say what you want 292 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 3: to about Trey, and whether you like Trey or don't 293 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: like Trey, I think everybody asked can see Trey was. 294 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 2: Like the closer for this team. 295 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, when it came like closing time in a game, 296 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: it was Trey, go get the quarterback and wrap this 297 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: thing up. 298 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: And they didn't have anybody to do that. 299 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 4: I would also would have loved to see what it 300 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 4: looked like with Trey on the field against the Buffalo Bills. Yes, 301 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: the way that Josh Allen had kind of played and 302 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 4: in that moment, I don't know that it would have 303 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 4: made that big of a difference. But again to your point, 304 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 4: he was the closer, and that game against the Bears, 305 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams was just running around doing whatever he wanted 306 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 4: yea and made so many plays off structure. But you know, 307 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 4: that three game stretch really is the big thing to me, 308 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 4: Like if they had not gotten Flacco three days before 309 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: they played the Green Bay Packers, then maybe they actually 310 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 4: win that game. They obviously knocked off Pittsburgh the Jets, 311 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 4: they needed one stop, one stop. Yeah, they win that game. 312 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 4: And the Bears basically can you tackle? 313 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: And they couldn't. And that just it's the same thing 314 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: as last year. 315 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 4: You think of Tanner Hudson fumbling at the goal line, 316 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 4: you think of day John Anthony's passenger if you're it's 317 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: in Kansas City four sixteen, like all these little moments, 318 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 4: it's just it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. 319 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 4: It adds up to a third straight year without the playoffs. 320 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 4: In the window that is Joe Burrow's career. What was 321 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 4: harder to watch though last year this year, because I 322 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 4: think it was this year. 323 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say it just became so deflating with 324 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: Joe's injury and then how miserable it was for three 325 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: weeks with Jake, and then a little bit of boost 326 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: of hope with Joe, and then the the the Flacco 327 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: and then the thought the defense just for so long 328 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,479 Speaker 3: was just tough to watch. More on that as we continue, 329 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: Let's get a check on news and talk more about 330 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: the offense. Chase Brown season had more. 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Always great to 341 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: see Fran and his lovely wife Phyllis. 342 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:20,479 Speaker 2: We were talking. 343 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: During one of the breaks and we've all confirmed, both Fran, Mike, 344 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: and myself all confirmed at some point in our lives 345 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 3: we banged pots and pans out. 346 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: The back door. 347 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: I'll never forget as a kid on New Year's my 348 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: grandma always saying, grab your pots and pans, and she 349 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: would open the sliding patio door and we'd all bang 350 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: potts for I think it was for good luck? Was 351 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: it for good luck? And it was also eat Sauer Kraut, 352 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 3: which I refused to do. I like Sara Kraut, but 353 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: my grandma always insisted, bang the pots and pans, eat 354 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 3: Sara Kraut for New Year's Eve. 355 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: We had this conversation on the on the air earlier 356 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: today sixty three sixty yes her name to three. 357 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 4: Talking about thirty and apparently it's to get rid of 358 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: the demons, the demons and the spirits and the bad 359 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 4: energy and the bad juju around the. 360 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: Now it's taking on a much more important meaning that 361 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, does that mean that you go 362 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: back to that. Now, maybe I revert to my childhood. 363 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 3: We might need to do I never did that though, 364 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 3: never did anything like that. 365 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: See, you should catch up and do it tomorrow night. 366 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 4: Well there's other people who say that, you know, you 367 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 4: open your front door and open your back door to 368 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 4: let all the bad energy out. 369 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 2: And I don't know. I have no idea. There's a 370 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 2: lot I want, you know, I want you to do. 371 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: What's that? 372 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 4: I want you to bang pot and pans and eat 373 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 4: Buckeyes tomorrow night. I can eat the Buckeyes and I'll 374 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 4: tell you what. If we win, if we beat the Hurricanes, 375 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 4: there'll be some banging or something going on. 376 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 2: Oh, I can't believe. 377 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 4: I have memories of banging a pot and pan out 378 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 4: to my Grandma. 379 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 2: Insisted, did you ever like them? You break them or anything? 380 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: It'll just like making the noise. 381 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 3: No, it was the big like frying pan skillet, so 382 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: oh yeah, and the pots and that you. 383 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: Boil what you bang, bang, bang bang. 384 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 4: It'd be like twelve degrees and then shut the door. 385 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 4: Did you ever accidentally take one upside the head? 386 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 2: By Jesse? We knew what we were doing. Okay, all right, 387 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 2: I'm just looking for answers. 388 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 3: Let's review the drive of last week's game, brought to 389 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 3: you by Driveway Dumpsters in Cincinnati. Black and yellow does 390 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 3: mean trash. Visit d Dumpsters dot com. By the way, 391 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: shout out to Driveway Dumpsters for being a part of 392 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: the show this year. Since this is our last show 393 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 3: of the year, will make the opening drive the drive 394 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 3: of last week's game. The Tone Center twelve plays seventy 395 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 3: two yards, five forty three off the clock and a touchdown. 396 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: The Bengals were on their way to victory. And we'll 397 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 3: do our standing ovation for last week, presented by Ovation 398 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: the Urban Resort where Cincinnati coming to the Newport come 399 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 3: together the Ovation Standing Ovation each week throughout the season, 400 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 3: and we certainly appreciate Ovation being a part of the 401 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: show this season. Will go Chase Brown for his one 402 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 3: hundred and forty one yards from scrimmage. He did it 403 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,239 Speaker 3: on the ground, he did it through the aar, he 404 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 3: did it blocking. 405 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: I love the quote from. 406 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: Zach Taylor this week who said, and I think I'm paraphrasing, 407 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: I trust him in all three phases, yeah, meaning catching 408 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 3: the ball, running the ball, and blocking that dude, I mean, 409 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: if you talk about a season that turned as the 410 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 3: offensive line got better, because you remember, like the first 411 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 3: three or four weeks, we were all quoting, like Pro 412 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: Football Focus that he was, you know, hit behind the 413 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage for what should have been like minus 414 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: forty two yards in a game. And now we're talking 415 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 3: about a guy who's about fifty yards away from a 416 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 3: thousand yard season in almost fourteen hundred yard fifteen hundred 417 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: yards in total offense. 418 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's been unbelievable and and it really 419 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 4: felt like it took them a while, not just to 420 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 4: get the run game going, but also to get him 421 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 4: involved in the past game. And I guess part of 422 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 4: the reason was, you know, without Joe Burrow, I don't 423 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 4: know if it's adjusting stuff at the line of scrimmage. 424 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's moving him around in the 425 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 4: formation or whatever it was, and in the playbook maybe 426 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 4: being shrunk for Joe Flacco and or Jake Browning. But 427 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 4: now you've seen him everywhere. You see him motioning before 428 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 4: the snap. I like the wrinkle they've added the last 429 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 4: couple of weeks, which is two running back sets yep, 430 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 4: which is him and p Ryan on the field at 431 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 4: the same time, and then all of a sudden, he'll 432 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 4: move Chase Brown out. He becomes a threat catching the ball. 433 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 4: But also some myj PTE. Ryan's having a really good 434 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 4: season running the ball as well, doing part of that 435 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 4: offensive line. That's another wrinkle that makes this offense hard 436 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 4: to defense. 437 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Joe it appears feels comfortable checking down with 438 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: him when something isn't there. They've targeted him. I think 439 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 3: I wrote down he has sixty five catches on eighty 440 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 3: two targets this year, So let's see, seventeen times five 441 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 3: is eighty five. So they're targeting him about five times 442 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: a game, which is up from a little about four 443 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 3: last year. So I you know, you're only going to 444 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 3: get so many targets in an offense that has Chase 445 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 3: it has Higgins. They've made Chase Brown a legitimate threat 446 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 3: both running and catching the football. 447 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: I love that. 448 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, eighty two targets this year, he's sixty five all 449 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 4: of last year, and that's up from obviously fifteen in 450 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 4: his rookie season. But you're exactly right. And I remember 451 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 4: reading the article that Paul Danner Junior wrote last offseason 452 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: about the training that he and Andre josavash had done, 453 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 4: and how Chase Brown wasn't really raining in like a 454 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 4: running back. 455 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 2: He was turning like a wide receiver. 456 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 4: And you're starting to see that paid dividendce the point 457 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 4: you made about checking it down when the pocket gets 458 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 4: muddled and when Burrow just needs to get rid of it. 459 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 4: He's one of those guys that can turn a three 460 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 4: yard checkdown into a thirteen yard or into a if 461 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 4: it's third and fourteen, he can get the first down 462 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 4: out of that. He did that against Arizona. That's a 463 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 4: huge weapon to have. 464 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was talking with lap Bundy down on 465 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: Bengals line how it's almost equated to like a game 466 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 3: controller where there's like a turbo you pressed the button 467 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 3: for a little turbo boost and jamar or a Chase 468 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: that first step when he gets to it, he gets 469 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 3: to it, and he did a little jump step to 470 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 3: make a guy miss, and he's not afraid to then 471 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 3: plow into somebody and make contact. That's that's I mean, 472 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 3: we've just run through pass catching, running the ball well, 473 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 3: not afraid of contact, able to make you miss. 474 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: That's a complete package of what you're looking for. 475 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 4: I think his ability to to get top speed on 476 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 4: a misdirection or when he changes direction is really impressive. 477 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 4: I think back to the opening drive of the season. 478 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: They ran the ball down the throat of the clear 479 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 4: Eveland Browns and they got inside the five and they 480 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 4: were struggling a little bit. Hand the ball off to 481 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 4: chase to the right. He comes basically to a dead 482 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 4: stop and then just sprints to the left side and 483 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 4: beats the Browns defense to the end zone. That ability 484 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 4: to change directions so quickly get to top speed is 485 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 4: a huge weapon to have in the offense. And I 486 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 4: think his vision and his patience have been things that 487 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 4: have improved for him as the season went on. Yeah, 488 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 4: that's a great point about the opening drive. I think 489 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 4: if I remember, I think he had seven touches on 490 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 4: that opening drive of the season and think it holy cow. 491 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: And then he went through that phase where the offensive 492 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 4: line just wasn't doing anything and it made him kind 493 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 4: of question what was going on? And certainly no questions 494 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 4: now with what they're doing now. I guess that the question. 495 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: To keep on the theme, he was a let's see, 496 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 3: he was what a fifth round pick? What we're at No. 497 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 5: Third? 498 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: He was a fifth round pick. Number one sixty three 499 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 2: overall number one sixty three, and this is year number three. 500 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: So if I were to say to you, let's get 501 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: ahead of things and lock him up now, that to 502 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 3: me would seem perfect for a team that has waited too. 503 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 2: Long on other guys. 504 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, in terms of making a statement to the rest 505 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 3: of your team and just locking up and taking care 506 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 3: of something offensively that you shouldn't worry about once you 507 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: get it done. 508 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this year shows his value more than 509 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 4: maybe any point in his career. Obviously with the amount 510 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 4: of injuries that they've had. I think the way Zach 511 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 4: has talked about him, the way that Joe has talked 512 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 4: about him, even a little bit, the way Jamar Chase 513 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 4: has talked about him, you start to realize just how 514 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 4: important he is to the offense. You draft a guy 515 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 4: with this vision in mind, yep, that can take over 516 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 4: and be such a big weapon in your offense. And 517 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 4: I kind of equate this. For some reason, they may 518 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 4: not be comparable, but I think of the Logan Wilson 519 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 4: deal that he got prior to the end of his 520 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 4: rookie contract, where they took care of him early, they 521 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 4: gave him an extension, they settled their cap a little bit, 522 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 4: and they took care of one of their own, their 523 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 4: guys that had turned out to be a leader. On 524 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 4: that defense, I think it's comparable to Chase Brown, like 525 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: he's an important piece of this offense, and he's gonna 526 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 4: be affordable. You've got plenty of cap space, not just 527 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 4: next year, but the years after that. 528 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: Now is the time to lock him down. 529 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: He will be next year, he'll be still only twenty six. 530 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 3: His workload has not been excessive. They haven't run him 531 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 3: into the ground first season forty four attempts last year 532 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 3: to twenty nine this year two nineteen with one game 533 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 3: to go, so he's not even at five five hundred 534 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: career rushing attempts and going into an age twenty six season. 535 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: There shouldn't be any worry about tread on the tire. 536 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 3: That's to me, that would be up on a board 537 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: of a working strategy of somebody you would take care 538 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 3: of and not worry about committing that type of money 539 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 3: to just push it off to the. 540 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: Side, say now we don't have to worry about him. 541 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 4: And the other thing we've seen over the last couple 542 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 4: of years has been the renaissance of the running back 543 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: position in the NFL. Sakuon Barkley, Bjon Robinson, if you 544 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 4: watched him last night, unbelievable. Those are dudes that have 545 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 4: raised the price a little bit. 546 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 2: Yep. 547 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 4: And if the NFL is going to get back to 548 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 4: running football, I'm not. I don't know that it's ever 549 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 4: going to be a run first league again. But if 550 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 4: you're starting to see value at that position across the 551 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: league and guys that are not afraid to turn around 552 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 4: and hand it off twenty times a game, twenty five 553 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 4: times a game like they used to, then that positional 554 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 4: value is going to go up. And if you're Chase Brown, 555 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 4: I'd be pushing to get it done early as well, 556 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 4: so that I can double dip and get back into 557 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 4: free agency before I turn thirty or thirty one years old. 558 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: All right, that was a heck of a segment. Let's 559 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 2: do one more. 560 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: Let's talk Geno Stone when we continue, So we have 561 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 3: to debate how how good a segment that will be. 562 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 2: I wouldn't walk across the street to see Genos quick, kid, 563 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: did you? 564 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 3: It's uh brought to you in part by ever Dry 565 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 3: water proofing today, not dry till it's ever dry and 566 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 3: all season long, so we think ever Dry Waterproofing for 567 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: being a part of the Cincinnati tax resolution powered by 568 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 3: Tope Sheldon Roundtable Show We're at Long Nexan Wilder presented 569 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 3: by Postman Loss seven hundred WLW close it in on 570 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 3: seven o'clock on this Tuesday night edition, the wrap up 571 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 3: edition for the Roundtable Show this year, Long and Wilder 572 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 3: is our location. 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She's moving from the table 578 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 3: to headset into Mike's role next year as our engineer. 579 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I don't know if Rocky's ever 580 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 3: going to be back well, and then that'll be Bran 581 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 3: will slide into Rockies role next year and it'll just 582 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: be one one big party. 583 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: You need to ask the show you ever heard of 584 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 2: Wally pipp There you go. Absolutely. 585 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: Let's review last week's defensive play of the game brought 586 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 3: to you by O'Connor at Shanny and Levy Attorneys. You 587 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 3: know attorneys you trust. Visit oh A L dash Law 588 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 3: dot com. We'll go with Miles Murphy in the sack. 589 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 3: That's five and a half sacks. Now he has the 590 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: team lead, I said Monday night on Bengals Line to me, 591 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 3: if you're tracking the performance of Miles Murphy, I look 592 00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 3: at performances and I say, early stage, it's a blip. Okay, 593 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 3: that was good. That was a blip on the radar. 594 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 3: The more it happens, I start to saying, all right, 595 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 3: I see a trend developing. I think we're now into 596 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 3: the stage where reality has hit with Miles Murphy. And 597 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 3: I don't want to make it out to think I 598 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 3: believe he's a pro bowler right now, or he's the 599 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 3: answered all their problems, but I believe he is a 600 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 3: piece that could be counted on as a regular contributor 601 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 3: on this defense. 602 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 4: Would you agree? I agree with you one hundred percent. 603 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 4: I think that is one of the things you take 604 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 4: with you going into the top season and knowing, Okay, 605 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 4: this guy's going to play a role for us, and 606 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 4: you know, I think we've forgotten they changed defensive coordinators, 607 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 4: they change defensive line coaches. 608 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 2: Yep. They brought in Jerry Montgomery, who. 609 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 4: Has had some success coaching guys in the past at 610 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 4: that position, and all of a sudden, it felt like 611 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 4: the light bulb clicked. 612 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 2: Maybe it's just the way the defense is termed. 613 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 4: Maybe it's just understanding that he's not a rotation, he's 614 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 4: a guy that's being relied on every single snap, and 615 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 4: there's more confidence that comes with that. I'm not sure 616 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 4: exactly what it is, but you're right. It's not been 617 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 4: two games. It's been eight games, nine games, ten games 618 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 4: which he's put it all together. And I think an 619 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 4: example is like TJ. 620 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 2: Slayton. 621 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 4: TJ Slayton's been really good for the last two weeks. Yeah, 622 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 4: he's played two terrible teams for the last two weeks. 623 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 4: Miles Murphy's been good for the last ten weeks. DJ 624 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 4: Turner's been good for the last ten weeks. It's not 625 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 4: just something you see against bad teams. It's all across 626 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 4: the board. 627 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 2: Now. 628 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 3: To me, I think it's important with Miles Murphy to 629 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 3: not be viewed. I think they have to view him 630 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 3: as he could be the guy on the other side 631 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: of the guy. Sure, he can be the second, and 632 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 3: I don't know who that first. I don't know that 633 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 3: they devote the money to Joseph o'side to do that. 634 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: But somebody has to be the guy to allow Miles 635 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 3: Murphy then to be the other guy. And there's nothing 636 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: wrong with being the other guy. It just I don't 637 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 3: want to count on him as the new Trey Hendrickson. 638 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 3: I don't think he's that yet. Do you think Joseph 639 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: Osai can be the guy? 640 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. 641 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 3: I don't think I'm fifteen million a year committed. 642 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 2: To believing that, are you? No? 643 00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 5: Not? 644 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 3: Really I like him, I just I almost feel like 645 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 3: the back portion of the season has been a missed 646 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 3: opportunity for him to convince me and probably convince them. 647 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: It's raised more questions than it's deliberate answers. 648 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 4: He signed a prove it deal, yeah, to come back, 649 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 4: and all he'd done is proved that he's the same 650 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 4: guy he was a year ago. I would wonder if 651 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 4: the Bengals are interested in trying to bank on that 652 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 4: same light bulb clicking for Joseph Osaida, the motivation of 653 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,719 Speaker 4: a one motivation of a one year deal that you 654 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 4: saw with Miles Murphy this year. The other interesting part 655 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 4: of that David Mulgett as his agent, and we know 656 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 4: that he and the Bengals don't get along when it 657 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 4: comes to contract negotiations, which makes me think if he 658 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 4: comes back, it would be similar to a year ago 659 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 4: and a one year proved deal to try to get 660 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 4: right back in there. But I also feel like Shamar 661 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 4: Stewart has a chance this offseason to get back into 662 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 4: being a football player. You went through the draft and 663 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 4: the process that happened. Now you know what it's like. 664 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 4: You don't have to deal with your contract. You're not 665 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 4: going to be holding out. It's all in front of you. 666 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 4: For Shamar Stewart, I hope the Bengals don't put all 667 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 4: their eggs in that basket because I think that would 668 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 4: be foolish and you would think that they've learned from 669 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 4: Miles Murphy. But I do think there will be more 670 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 4: production from whoever else is on the other side than 671 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 4: we got this year. 672 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 3: I said on Sunday, and almost sometimes I feel like 673 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 3: I'm picking on him, But every time I watch Geno Stone, 674 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 3: I come to the conclusion I don't know that how 675 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 3: far back i'd have to go to dig into pro 676 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: football a focused great if they ever had them for 677 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: the history of the franchise. I feel pretty good believing 678 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 3: that Geno Stone might be turning in the worst individual 679 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 3: season performance of any player in the history of this franchise. 680 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: He's just been a disaster. He's been a disaster. 681 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 4: And Al Golden spoke glowingly of him yesterday, but I 682 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 4: think if you read through that a little bit, he 683 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 4: basically kept saying, Gino has been really good for us, 684 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 4: getting us in the right position and getting us in 685 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 4: the right play. That's the bare minimum of a safety. 686 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: Yep. 687 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 4: You know why von Bell played as much as he 688 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 4: did last year because the other guys couldn't do that. 689 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 4: Vaughn was terrible once the snap happened, but he was 690 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 4: getting them in the right play. We're seeing the same 691 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 4: thing unfold with Geno Stone, and so you know, he's 692 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 4: on an expiring contract. He isn't played well, not the 693 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 4: last couple of weeks. He hasn't played well for the 694 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 4: last couple of years. So I don't know that there's 695 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 4: anything that happens over these last few games that make 696 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 4: you feel like, Okay, Genostone is a guy that's going 697 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 4: to be coming back to me. 698 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 3: It almost felt yesterday like al was was throwing a 699 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 3: life preserver to one of his guys who's taking a 700 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 3: heavy attack under fire from the fan base. There there 701 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 3: was if you're out, there's no harm in saying something 702 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: he thinks he's doing positively. And at the same time, 703 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 3: you're never gonna bury the guy publicly, and you know 704 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 3: he's not gonna be here next year, so saying something 705 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: positive kind of changes the tone maybe a little bit, 706 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 3: and gives him a positive on the way out. Maybe 707 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 3: I'm reading too much into it, but clearly I don't 708 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 3: think anybody believes that that's an indicator they have fallen 709 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 3: in love with Genostone. 710 00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: He's going to be back next season. 711 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 4: Well, I think what happened at the end of last 712 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 4: year he did play a little bit better, He tackled 713 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 4: a little bit better, and that, you know, made such 714 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 4: an impression on the Bengals that they asked him to 715 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 4: make a two million dollars pay cut, and he for 716 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 4: some reason obliged and decided to do that. But I 717 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 4: think it's interesting the comparison between the safety position and 718 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 4: the edge position, because I think Jordan battle could be 719 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 4: much like Miles Murphy, where he's a player who can 720 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 4: thrive when there's a better player on the other sides. 721 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 4: And we saw that a little bit in Jordan's rookie 722 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 4: year when Dax was playing okay at that position. Jordan 723 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 4: has had some moments this year where it's like, Okay, 724 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 4: there's still something there, there's still something that can be 725 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 4: unlocked with Jordan Battle. I think you make Murphy a 726 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 4: better player, and you make Battle a better player by 727 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 4: the two guys that are playing. 728 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 2: Next to him, no doubt, no doubt. 729 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 3: Let's close the hour with our Postman Law Injury report 730 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 3: delivered by Postman Law Injured. 731 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: Postman delivers trying to think. 732 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 5: I know. 733 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 3: Mims left briefly with the shin, but then came back, 734 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: and I don't know if anything else significant will be 735 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: tracking tomorrow, So for the moment, we'll make that our 736 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 3: injury update. 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That would be from Bearcat Journal 766 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 3: Chad Brendle. 767 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 2: How are you? 768 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 5: I am pretty much entirely in the mode where I'm 769 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 5: just waiting to get to Memphis on Thursday and eat 770 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 5: Guts's fried chicken. 771 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, nice, nice, all right, speaking of the bowl game. 772 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 3: The news of the day for the Bearcats, Evan Pryor, 773 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 3: the running back or average six point nine yards of 774 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 3: carried this year in rushing for over five hundred yards, 775 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 3: has entered the transfer portal. 776 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 2: Your reaction to the news of the day. 777 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 5: Cincinnati has to be really smart with their money that 778 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 5: they don't have a lot of it. I think Evan 779 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 5: Pryor was, and probably rightfully so, looking for a you know, 780 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 5: this last year, looking for a big pay day. And 781 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 5: I think he's probably a running back two for Cincinnati 782 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 5: at least the way that they want to run the football. 783 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 5: They prefer Corey Kiner Tywie Walker type in that running 784 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 5: back one spot. It's probably that's for both parties if 785 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 5: they go their separate ways. But that's not to diminish 786 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 5: this was not Evan pryor wasn't good enough. Cincinnati is 787 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 5: moving on. Just in the new world of college football. 788 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 5: Financials play into it, maybe more than any of us 789 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 5: would like them to. But that's a factor you have to, 790 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 5: you know, put into the the mix for how these 791 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 5: things play out. 792 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 4: When it comes to the money and being smart with 793 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 4: the money, how much of it do you think is 794 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 4: you know, saving up for having to invest in a 795 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 4: quarterback and the outrageous prices that college quarterbacks are going 796 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 4: for these days. 797 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 5: I mean, there's some talk in a couple of articles 798 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 5: that have been coming out recently that you're talking like 799 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 5: a million and a half two million dollars for guys 800 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 5: that are backups. Wow, now they're probably good backups, you know, 801 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 5: like the kid at Ohio State who's almost won that 802 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 5: job the past two years. Try talking to a million 803 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 5: and a half two million dollars to get him to 804 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 5: get the kid from Notre Dame probably over a million dollars. 805 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 5: That was the backup there. I've heard I've heard anywhere 806 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 5: from four to six million dollars for Brendan Soursby. 807 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 808 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 5: So we thought that the market would would calm down, right, Like, okay, 809 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 5: revenue shares here, the cap is in place, but for 810 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 5: positions like quarterback, you can round up nil money. That's 811 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 5: that's actual nil money that you know. These getting kids 812 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 5: are QB one are marketable and those those markets. Yeah, 813 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 5: and that money is not flowing down at all. So 814 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 5: you guys save you money for a quarterback often. 815 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 3: So you Kegan, You guys, everybody at Bearcat Journal, you 816 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 3: guys are all over this and do it like nobody's 817 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 3: business keeping track of the portal? 818 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 2: What going into the bowl game? 819 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 3: How would you categorize the general shape of the roster 820 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 3: going into the bowl game based on everything that is transpired. 821 00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 5: Uh, not terrible, but certainly not what you want against Navy, 822 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 5: like in this era, the last thing you want to 823 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 5: see going into a bowl game as a service academy, 824 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 5: especially a good service accademy like this is a good 825 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 5: Navy team. They don't deal with opt oubts, they don't 826 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 5: deal with kids entering the transfer portal, like the team 827 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 5: that they had all season is going to be the 828 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 5: team that you play. I think there's a chance you're 829 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 5: going to see some true freshmen playing against Navy in 830 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 5: the defensive secondary, that that red shirted, that did not 831 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 5: play a snap all season, and you're going to probably 832 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 5: see a couple of them out there against Navy. That 833 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 5: is I classify that as less than ideal. Y, so 834 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 5: you know, it's it's not great, but I think offensively 835 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,720 Speaker 5: they should still be fine. Most of the other offensive 836 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 5: line is going to be. 837 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 2: There, Joe Royer's playing. 838 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 5: My understanding is Cyrus Allen and Jeff Caldwell are gonna play. 839 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 2: Well. 840 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 5: You know, Brady Lichtenberg is gonna Nobody deserves a shot 841 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 5: more than Brady Lichtenberg and he's gonna have most of 842 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 5: his weapons. So offensively they should be fine. But the 843 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 5: question is do we get to the end of the 844 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 5: game and you look and Navy's had forty five minutes 845 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 5: in time of possession and Cincinnati's had like fourteen and 846 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 5: a half. 847 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 4: Are there any like is there a positive to having 848 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,919 Speaker 4: some of those young guys play because they are likely 849 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 4: to come back next year? 850 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 5: Yeah? 851 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,919 Speaker 4: Is it just one game, and it doesn't matter that much, 852 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,919 Speaker 4: like how is the staff viewing this game in terms 853 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 4: of like the development of those young players. 854 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 5: You're gonna get to see what you've got with quite 855 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 5: a few of them. You know, it's not a normal 856 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 5: game situation playing Navy, but you're gonna have seen them 857 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 5: for the fifteen Bowl practices. You're gonna get to see 858 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 5: what they look like in the game. You're gonna see 859 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 5: how they take to the coaching. You know that there 860 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 5: are definitely some advantages on defense with getting a look 861 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 5: at these young guys right as the portal opens, so 862 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 5: you're gonna get a better idea of what you have. 863 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 5: You know, there's some guys that I think you know, 864 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 5: like CJ. Cright at safety is a name that they 865 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 5: really love, and I think you know, after red shirting 866 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 5: all year, you're gonna get a chance to see what 867 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:28,760 Speaker 5: you've gotten in CJ. 868 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: Crite a little bit. 869 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 5: You're gonna get to look at at Daniel Jones at 870 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 5: outside corner a little bit more frequently. There's a red 871 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 5: guy that red shirted this year named Patrick Williams, a 872 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 5: corner that they really like that you're gonna be able 873 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 5: to get a look at So it's gonna be beneficial 874 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,919 Speaker 5: in you know, several of these instances where you don't 875 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 5: have to wait until spring, you know, to find out 876 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 5: what some of these guys are going to give you, 877 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 5: especially what are their practice habits, like how do they 878 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 5: handle going from you know, not playing a whole lot 879 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 5: to being thrown into the mix. So there is some 880 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 5: positive that can come from it. Again, the problem though, 881 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 5: is you're playing the triple option and Navy and I 882 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,479 Speaker 5: don't know how much in the game you can take 883 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 5: from especially defensive backs. You're going to see how they tackle, 884 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 5: but I'm not going to get to see a whole 885 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 5: lot of coverage and you know, playing an advanced like 886 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 5: passing scheme by any stretch. 887 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 3: All right, basketball question for you win over Lipscomb last night, 888 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 3: Now the Big Twelve with Houston on Saturday. 889 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 2: They play eighteen Big Twelve games. 890 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 3: If I were to give you an over under on 891 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 3: Big Twelve wins for UC, if I just off the 892 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 3: top of my head said seven and a half, how 893 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,280 Speaker 3: would you feel about that number? 894 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 5: Well, if it was before Gigsel James came back, and 895 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 5: they have looked, especially offensively, significantly better with Gigsel James 896 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 5: on the floor. I would have laughed, taken under and 897 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 5: ran to the bank with whatever you allowed me to bet. Now, 898 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 5: now i'd say, now that's probably in the right realm. 899 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 5: Seven to eight. I mean, I still the offense has 900 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 5: just been so inconsistent that that I don't have a 901 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 5: great feeling that they get into that eight nine, ten 902 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 5: win range. Yet it has been better, but it was 903 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,839 Speaker 5: so bad for the first ten games that that that 904 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 5: has not left my brain. So here's the other problem. Lance. 905 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 5: They played two seasons in the Big twelve. They won 906 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 5: seven games both times, one of them with a twenty 907 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 5: game schedule. Now they're going back to an eighteen game schedule. 908 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 5: I'd still probably take under, but at least I feel 909 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 5: a little bit better about things than I did two 910 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 5: weeks ago. 911 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 3: I wonder it yet, but I want you to know 912 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 3: you missed a golden opportunity in the last ninety seconds 913 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 3: to drop in a six seven and people would have 914 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 3: gone crazy. 915 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 5: I could have, but they wore that out at the 916 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 5: game last night they had six seven games. 917 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 2: Yes classic, I have a teenage daughter. I'm over Oh. 918 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 4: Yes, for the kids, all right, map out the itinerary. 919 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:19,959 Speaker 4: When when do you hit the road. 920 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 3: It will it be all forces you and Keegan and 921 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 3: preview all the coverage coming up from Bearkay journal dot com. 922 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 5: So we we. I hit the road Thursday morning, hopefully 923 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 5: by dinner Thursday night. I'm a Gussa's Fried Chicken. That's 924 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 5: the plan. Keegan and I will both be in Memphis, 925 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 5: and then Keegan, because he's just a warrior, is gonna 926 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 5: go back to the I got an Airbnb for both 927 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 5: of us. He's gonna go back and sleep until like 928 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 5: three four o'clock in the morning, and then he's gonna 929 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 5: get up and drive back to Cincinnati for the Houston game. 930 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 4: Oh oh my gosh, cruel and unusual. 931 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 2: How about that? 932 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 5: I mean, you know I did that a lot of 933 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 5: that stuff back in when I was his age. Anymore, 934 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 5: I'm gonna stop in Nashville, watch the game in Nashville, 935 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 5: and I'll catch up later. 936 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 4: Understood that To clarify, You're going to ride chicken place 937 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 4: instead of a barbecue place in Memphis? 938 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 2: Is that right? 939 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 5: Often? Gusses fried chicken is the best fried chicken I've 940 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 5: ever had. Okay, I'm just wondering, you know, I Mean, 941 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 5: it's so good it's become a national chain like they're 942 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 5: they're all over the place now, but one of the 943 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 5: original locations is in downtown Memphis. You now, people when 944 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 5: like Cincinnatians, when they leave Cincinnatian and then they come back, 945 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 5: they go to Skyline. Yes, like before they go home, 946 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 5: before they do anything, they go to Skyline. That is 947 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,760 Speaker 5: me with guss Fried Chicken. Straight off the Expressway, straight 948 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 5: to Guss's Fried Chicken. I almost got an airbnb that 949 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 5: was a block from Gusses like that. 950 00:44:58,840 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 2: Probably have that idea. 951 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 5: Oh no, that's probably a bad idea, so I didn't 952 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 5: do that. But yes, the fried chicken, the sides, everything 953 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 5: at Guss's is awesome. That's my go to spot in Memphis. 954 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 2: The barbecue is good. I'm more of a Texas. 955 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 5: Barbecue guy than a Memphis barbecue guy. 956 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 3: All Right, safe travels, Happy New Year. This will not 957 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 3: be the last time we talk with you. It will 958 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 3: be the last segment on this show for the season 959 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,280 Speaker 3: since we're done. 960 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,879 Speaker 2: And I say this every year. 961 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 3: Your commitment, your unwavering support and commitment to this show 962 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 3: each week means a lot. It raises the level of 963 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 3: this show and we very much enjoy our conversations and 964 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 3: we look forward to doing it again next season. 965 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 5: I always look forward to being on with you guys, 966 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 5: whatever night of the week. 967 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 3: It is what the Bearcat Journal dot Com for it 968 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 3: all this weekend and beyond on YouTube as well. 969 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 2: And thank you. Happy New Year. 970 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 5: Thanks gentlemen, have a great new year. 971 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 3: There you go, Chad Brendo, Bearcat Journal, Bearcat Journal dot Com. 972 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 3: Take a time out, come back. Something Dalton Reisner said 973 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 3: to Dan Horde I think is worth taking a listen 974 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 3: to and exploring. And then let's get into some roster breakdown. 975 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 3: Now we're toggles. I broke down these silly little categories 976 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 3: and then I just threw some names in each category. 977 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 3: And then I didn't look at it again, and then 978 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 3: I looked at it tonight and said, oh, I might 979 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 3: move some of these names around, but that's what you're 980 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 3: here for. I'm gonna ask what names we should move 981 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 3: as we continue all that to get to and more. 982 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 3: It's The Roundtable Show, Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by Tope Sheldon, 983 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 3: Round Table Show, LONGNX and Wilder the Spot presented by 984 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 3: Postman Law and on seven hundred WLW seven four seven 985 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,720 Speaker 3: hundred WLW. The Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by Tope Sheldon 986 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 3: Round Table Show, Longnecks in Wilder presented by Postman Law, 987 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 3: Brought to you in Burt Bye, Hawksworth Blood Centers, Hawksworth Donors, 988 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 3: Save Lives. 989 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 2: Dalton Reisner was. 990 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 3: Talking about Sunday's game with Dan postgame interview about the 991 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 3: game and the subject of his future came up. 992 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 2: He's on a one year deal. 993 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 3: And I thought it was an interesting public admission of 994 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 3: how he feels and what his hopes are and what 995 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 3: became the conversation between Dalton Reisner and Dan Horde. Take 996 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 3: a listen to part of that exchange on Sunday in 997 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 3: the locker room. 998 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 6: This is kind of your opportunity to play with him, healthy, 999 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 6: looking good. I mean, what's that experience been like for you? 1000 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 2: He's an ultimate competitor. 1001 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 7: I really do love Joe the way that he goes 1002 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,839 Speaker 7: out there and slings the football and wants to win 1003 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 7: football games, and how dialed he is. 1004 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,320 Speaker 2: You can see why the Bengals are special. 1005 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 7: I mean you kind of just block your tailoff back 1006 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 7: there and then you see the ball get thrown up 1007 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 7: and he's just dropping it in buckets and hitting guys 1008 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 7: right where they need to be hit. So love blocking 1009 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 7: from the guy. I got a tremendous amount of respect 1010 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 7: for him. You can see why he's had the success 1011 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 7: that he's had here in Cincinnati, and. 1012 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 2: I just hope I could be a part of it 1013 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:52,280 Speaker 2: for longer. 1014 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,720 Speaker 6: I would assume there's mutual interest in having your return 1015 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,240 Speaker 6: based on the way things are going. 1016 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 2: That would be great. Man, Keep pulling for me. Let's 1017 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 2: get these guys to give me a call, man, I 1018 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,760 Speaker 2: kind of expect that that's going to happen. 1019 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 6: Congratulations on a great win today, two in a row 1020 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 6: and finished the season with three. 1021 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 2: Next week We'll do God bless you. Thanks Matt for it. 1022 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,760 Speaker 3: Interesting comments after the game Dalton Reisner with Dan Horden, 1023 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 3: and I think people forget Dalton Reisner was signed the 1024 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 3: day that the final cutdown day August twenty eighth, and 1025 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 3: ten days later played thirty six snaps in the opener 1026 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 3: against the Cleveland Browns, and it was it was on 1027 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 3: the flight and it was rushed, and he was a 1028 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 3: little shaky early on, as you could understand. Eventually Jalen 1029 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 3: Rivers took over there, and then Jalen, through rookie issues 1030 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 3: and also some injuries, took a step out of that 1031 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 3: spot and and Dalton Reisner back in. But man, he 1032 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 3: has been this stretch to end the season. Dalton Reisner's 1033 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 3: been really good, hasn't he. 1034 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think he's been the lynch pin into 1035 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 4: fixing the offensive line. He's been consistent in the past game. 1036 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 4: He's been consistent in the run game. And that's part 1037 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 4: of the reason why Jalen Rivers got benched is he 1038 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 4: wasn't very good, especially in the run game or especially 1039 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 4: in the past game, and Reisner has just provided stability 1040 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 4: to boast. We talked earlier about you know, guys around 1041 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,240 Speaker 4: you making them other players better. I think Ted Carris 1042 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 4: has gotten better this year because Dylan Fairchild's been really 1043 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 4: good and Dalton Reiser's been really good, and I think 1044 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 4: that's made a Marius Mims better again. All together, that 1045 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 4: offensive line working together, and I think you know, if 1046 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 4: you follow Dalton and his wife on Twitter, they really 1047 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 4: seem to like being here. 1048 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 2: And it's very rare you hear a player say that. 1049 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 4: What he did to Dan Horde, which is like, yeah, 1050 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 4: keep helping me out. Give you guys to give me 1051 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 4: a call, Like what more could you need if you're 1052 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,240 Speaker 4: the Bengals. I think some projectives have him at about 1053 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 4: four and a half to five million dollars a year. 1054 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 2: I would do that. I would do that in a hartbeat. 1055 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 3: He'll be I think I looked it up. He'll be 1056 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 3: thirty one next season. That's not old to me. You 1057 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 3: know what you've got in him. He wants to be here, 1058 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 3: and if you plug him in, maybe get him on one. 1059 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 3: Maybe it has to be a two year deal, but 1060 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 3: it would buy you some time with Jalen Rivers instead 1061 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 3: of having to force Jalen Rivers back into the mix. 1062 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 3: If you say, Jalen, just you know, cool, your jets, 1063 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 3: keep learning, keep improving. Your time will come. Maybe he 1064 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 3: gets dinged up and Jalen replaces him in stretches next year. 1065 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 3: But I don't see it downside. It's not gonna by 1066 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 3: the numbers. It's not gonna break the bank. And if 1067 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 3: you know what he's you know what he's giving you, 1068 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 3: and you've seen the results, and it's as important as 1069 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 3: the offensive line. I'm talking with Dalton Reiser about a deal. 1070 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you go into the offseason you already 1071 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 4: know offensive line depth is something that has to be addressed. Yes, 1072 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,319 Speaker 4: And so if you can look at Jalen Rivers as 1073 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,400 Speaker 4: potential depth. Okay, we got a starter in Dalton Reisner. 1074 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 4: Maybe Jalen Rivers can be the guy who's the swing 1075 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,239 Speaker 4: tackle at some point because Cody Ford has struggled at that. 1076 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 4: It means obviously a great wide receiver, but he's struggled 1077 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 4: a little bit at being the swing tackle. Offensive Line 1078 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 4: depth is a need this offseason. You can cross off 1079 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 4: one of the biggest issues with the signing of Dalton 1080 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 4: Reisner at a relatively team friendly deal, And I just 1081 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 4: I don't think you could afford to go into next 1082 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 4: season if you don't re sign Reisner and just crossing 1083 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,280 Speaker 4: your fingers and hoping on Jalen Rivers. Yeah, they simply 1084 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 4: can't afford that scenario with Joe Burrow as well as 1085 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 4: they played collective as a you know, with Reisner, I 1086 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 4: don't know how you'd sit there and roll that ice 1087 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 4: say well, we'll take our chances with Jalen Rivers. 1088 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:20,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1089 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 4: No, it would be foolish. Yeah, it's as simple as that. 1090 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 3: All right, let me lead into we'll do the first 1091 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 3: level of this, then we'll transition after the news. But 1092 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,879 Speaker 3: I was put in together just a list of how 1093 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 3: I feel about players going into next season, and I 1094 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 3: just randomly picked categories in my top category would be 1095 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 3: the guys I feel great about, then the guys I 1096 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 3: feel really good about, then pretty good about, and then 1097 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 3: okay with, and then have my doubts about, and then 1098 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 3: I'm out on just randomly selected those categories who and 1099 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,360 Speaker 3: I've given you this list. I put four names in 1100 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,760 Speaker 3: the guys I would feel great right about without even blinking, 1101 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 3: and those I think the first three at least are 1102 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:08,320 Speaker 3: fairly obvious Burrow, Chase Higgins, and I put Evan McPherson 1103 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 3: in there. Are you okay with me putting Evan McPherson 1104 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 3: among four that we feel great. 1105 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 2: About for next season? Yes, I am all right. 1106 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,479 Speaker 3: When we come back, I'm gonna go to level two, 1107 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 3: the guys we feel really good about. 1108 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 4: There's one person you have in really good about that 1109 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 4: I think should be in that top two. 1110 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 3: Okay, that's good, And there is the longer I've looked 1111 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 3: at this this week, and again I just threw names 1112 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 3: into categories on Sunday and then forgot to go back 1113 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 3: and maybe rearrange some names. But I'm interested in your 1114 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 3: thoughts on level two as we continue. But we are perfectly. 1115 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,839 Speaker 4: Positioned in situation situated to take a time out. 1116 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 2: Let's get a check on news. 1117 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 4: It's the Cincinnati Tax Resolution power by Toave shown in 1118 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 4: Roundtable Show where at Long Necks, h Wilder. It is 1119 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 4: presented by Postman Law. Even Phyllis heard that on seven 1120 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 4: hundredl you. 1121 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,760 Speaker 3: Seven hundred WLW the Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by Toe 1122 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,839 Speaker 3: Sheldon round Table Show. It's presented by Postman Law. It's 1123 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,720 Speaker 3: broadcast from Long Nex and Wilder, Lance Pacallister, Austin Elmore, 1124 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 3: we weride till eighth and it's the West Miller Show 1125 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,239 Speaker 3: here on seven hundred wl W. Let's take time for 1126 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 3: this week's hot topic around the NFL, brought to you 1127 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 3: by Hudson Oil. Feeling champions on and off the field. 1128 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 3: We'll continue on in our last segment with just a 1129 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 3: general breakdown of how we feel about players. My level 1130 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 3: one was great about, no questions whatsoever. That's Burrow, Chase Higgins, 1131 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 3: and McPherson. Level two would be the guys we feel 1132 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 3: really good about. Could I make one change before I 1133 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 3: announce it, I'm gonna move Chase Brown up to my 1134 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:48,880 Speaker 3: great about category? 1135 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 2: Is that the one you were thinking about all right. 1136 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 3: In my really good about I had Chase Brown, Amarius Mimes, 1137 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 3: DJ Turner, Dax Hill. I might move my Keasiki down. No, 1138 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 3: I feel well, No, I'm undecided on Kasiki. What do 1139 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 3: you think about that? Well, if you if you're undecided, 1140 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 3: then you might move him down. You move him down to? 1141 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 3: Okay with wouldn't you? 1142 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 2: You're under good? 1143 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:14,440 Speaker 7: No? 1144 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 2: Pretty good of him? Okay, pretty good about it. 1145 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,400 Speaker 3: It'll feel really good about him because of age and injury. 1146 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 3: I feel pretty good about him. So I moved him 1147 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,439 Speaker 3: down one level, Okay, and you move Chase Brown up? Yeah, 1148 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,800 Speaker 3: I'm fine with that. For me, I would move a 1149 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 3: Marius Mims up to that feel great about And I 1150 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,280 Speaker 3: know he's, you know, still relatively young. But think about it, Lance, 1151 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 3: how bad did the offense look on Sunday against a 1152 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 3: terrible Arizona team when a Marius. 1153 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 2: Mims went out? 1154 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 4: That might be an indictment, an indictment on Cody Ford, 1155 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 4: but maybe it's a reminder of how good a Marius 1156 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 4: Mims is. And we never really said his name hardly 1157 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 4: at all this season, And that's exactly what you want 1158 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,359 Speaker 4: out of your starting right tackle. And this dude has 1159 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,919 Speaker 4: already played more snaps in the NFL than he ever 1160 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 4: did at the University of Georgia. He's still just twenty 1161 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 4: three years old. He's a mountain of a man. He's 1162 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 4: not gonna turn twenty four until midway through next season. 1163 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 4: I think the Bengals, as much as we have criticized 1164 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 4: them for their inability to draft, I think they hit 1165 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 4: a home run on a Marius Mims and I feel 1166 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,240 Speaker 4: like he's the future at right tackle. 1167 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 3: All right, that's now, that's a worthy case being made. 1168 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,919 Speaker 3: How about level three? Pretty good about? 1169 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 2: Guys? 1170 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 3: Feel pretty good about? I put Miles Murphy there is that? Okay, Yeah, 1171 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,760 Speaker 3: that's good. I put Jordan Battle there. Sure feel pretty 1172 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 3: and I think you made a great point earlier. I 1173 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 3: feel even better with him if you got him a 1174 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,720 Speaker 3: really good safety to be back there with him. Dylan 1175 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,240 Speaker 3: Fairchild pretty good about. 1176 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 2: Maybe might even might even move him. 1177 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,359 Speaker 3: Up to really good about. No, I'll stay pretty good. Okay, 1178 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,760 Speaker 3: I feel pretty good. And then it probably a surprise 1179 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,759 Speaker 3: to you, Ryan Rico, Yeah, this I wanted to do 1180 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 3: maybe the whole two hours about this. You called me 1181 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,280 Speaker 3: before the show a flip flopper because I had changed 1182 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 3: my opinion on something, and now all of a sudden, 1183 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 3: you want to speak, you know, positive things about Ryan Reco. 1184 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 4: Just settle down here for a second. And that's not 1185 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 4: flip flopping. 1186 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,440 Speaker 3: I always say I reserve the right to adjust an 1187 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 3: opinion based on the evidence presented. And the evidence presented 1188 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,479 Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks is Ryan Rico is much 1189 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 3: more than a just boot the heck out of it 1190 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 3: and see where it lands. He was inside the twenty 1191 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 3: all four times two weeks ago. Two those inside the ten, 1192 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 3: and I think he had a kick inside the twenty 1193 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 3: or maybe the ten. That's the only issue I ever 1194 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 3: had with I get he's got. 1195 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 2: A really powerful leg. 1196 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 3: Leads the league, I think that, but he also led 1197 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,120 Speaker 3: the league in touchbacks, which kind of defeats the purpose 1198 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 3: a lot. So because he's closed the gap of those deficiencies, 1199 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:45,319 Speaker 3: I'm willing to put him on. 1200 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about, okay. 1201 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 4: I'm just I'm glad that you're you have an open mind. 1202 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 4: Some people choose to that's right, that's right, And I 1203 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,839 Speaker 4: was excited to see Ryan Rico rise through the ranks 1204 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 4: up the pretty good about. 1205 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 3: He'll be excited to know too, guys. I feel okay 1206 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 3: with okay. So again we've got great. 1207 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 4: About, really good about, pretty good about, and now I 1208 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 4: feel okay about And I might underrate this dj Ivy. 1209 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 2: I might move him. 1210 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 4: Up a little bit. I might move him with pretty 1211 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,640 Speaker 4: good about. I mean, he seems to have found a 1212 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 4: role and the way they're using him, and uh yeah, 1213 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw Charlie Goldsmith's posts earlier 1214 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 4: this week about dj Ivy, but basically, he's had something 1215 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,440 Speaker 4: like one hundred and seventy eight total snaps in his 1216 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 4: career and allowed two first down catches and they were 1217 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 4: both garbage time against the Miami Dolphins a couple of 1218 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 4: weeks ago. And the way that he's specifically on third 1219 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 4: downs has become a third down stopper ninety nine third 1220 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 4: down snaps in the NFL forty nine this year. He's 1221 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 4: never allowed a first down catch, and he was all 1222 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 4: over Trey McBride on Sunday. He's just set the NFL 1223 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 4: record for receptions by a tight end and he was 1224 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 4: not targeted on those plays that dj Ivy was covering 1225 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 4: in back to Trey Flowers when the Bengals were good 1226 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 4: in twenty one and twenty two, having that guy to 1227 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 4: be the tight end stopper. I do think although the 1228 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 4: competition has not been great, Miami has a really good 1229 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 4: tight end in Darren Waller. Arizona has maybe the best 1230 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,120 Speaker 4: tight end in the NFL. And and Trey McBride and 1231 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,160 Speaker 4: the Bengals limited the damage that those two guys did. 1232 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 4: That's something to take away from these two wins. And 1233 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 4: dj Ivy having a role in that I think is important. 1234 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 2: You know what I'm doing. 1235 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 3: I'm moving dj Ivy up to feel great about oh 1236 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 3: after you said that. 1237 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 2: He goes all way up to the time, all the 1238 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,760 Speaker 2: way up to the time. All right, I'm moving stuff 1239 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 2: around here as well. I've got to true sample. I'm 1240 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,040 Speaker 2: okay with yeah, just a guy. 1241 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 3: I've got Tanner Hudson, okay with I've got Josh Newton. 1242 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 3: I'm okay with Josh Newton, Jaylen Davis. I want to 1243 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 3: love even more, but I'm not prepared to move on 1244 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 3: with the pretty good about. 1245 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 4: I'm okay with Jalen and that's okay to be okay. 1246 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 4: I would move Jalen up to pretty good about okay. 1247 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 4: He's one of the best tacklers on this defense. He's 1248 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 4: shown the ability to play the slot in that nickel role, 1249 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 4: especially with Dax Hill on the outside. Yep, I don't 1250 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 4: know what took so long for Jayleen Davis from the 1251 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,520 Speaker 4: practice squad. I remember doing segments about him during the preseason, 1252 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 4: talking about how this guy needs to be on the field, 1253 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,960 Speaker 4: and he never saw the field. And I think he's 1254 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 4: really well respected in that locker. 1255 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 2: Room as well. 1256 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 3: I have set Johnson on that list, had a sack 1257 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 3: with help from a nice pressure from Isaiah Foski on Sunday. 1258 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 3: And then I've got you know, Will Wagner. Most people 1259 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 3: don't even know who Will Wagner is. He's their snapper. 1260 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 3: I've got Cody Ford okay with, maybe have my doubts. Well, no, 1261 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 3: he gets okay with because he had the twenty one. 1262 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 2: Jewels. 1263 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 3: So there, you know what is As I'm doing all this, 1264 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,960 Speaker 3: you know who this list would drive have driven absolutely bonkers. 1265 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 3: He would have lost his mind. I'd pay to be 1266 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 3: able to go back in time and have this conversation 1267 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 3: with Bob Trumpy when I created my own list, and 1268 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 3: he would look at me and say. 1269 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 4: You you've clearly never played the game before. He'd loved 1270 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,240 Speaker 4: that card, and then he'd laugh and then he'd say, 1271 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 4: this may be the most ridiculous list I have ever 1272 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 4: seen put together. I think in this particular category and 1273 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 4: the okay with, there are three guys that over the 1274 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 4: last month have carved themselves out rolls for the twenty 1275 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 4: twenty six Pagles. All right, dj Ivy as you mentioned, 1276 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 4: Jalen Davis as we mentioned, and set Johnson as that 1277 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 4: rotational pass rusher that can maybe come in on third 1278 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,920 Speaker 4: downs and maybe be on the inside, be on the outside, 1279 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 4: move guys around. This dude was awesome at the end 1280 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 4: of last year. He had that injury. At the beginning 1281 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 4: of this year, he's already had an impact on that 1282 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 4: defense and the limited snaps he's gotten. 1283 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 2: I like that dude. Guys. 1284 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 3: I have my doubts about Shamar Stewart certainly is that fair? 1285 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 3: I have Barrett Carter, I have my doubts about him. 1286 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 2: Yep. 1287 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,919 Speaker 3: I might be willing to move Dimitris Knight Junior up 1288 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 3: to okay with, but I hesitate. I still have doubts 1289 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 3: about him. I want to like him, but he's older 1290 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 3: and he's come on late. I'm gonna leave him in. 1291 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,480 Speaker 3: I have my doubts about Yeah. 1292 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 4: I'm right there with you, I don't feel good about 1293 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 4: either one of these linebackers. No matter what happens this 1294 01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,680 Speaker 4: week or what's happened in the last three weeks. 1295 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 3: They're gonna have to bring in it. And it can't 1296 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 3: be a draftic. They're gonna have to spend money on 1297 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 3: a veteran live back. 1298 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 4: I agree at least because even we had the conversation 1299 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 4: earlier about TJ. Slayton, he's looked good the last two weeks. 1300 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 4: These guys haven't like they really have. Demetrius Knight okay 1301 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,200 Speaker 4: against Ravens a few weeks ago, but Barrett Carter's still 1302 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,440 Speaker 4: getting shook out of his shoes, still in the wrong position, 1303 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 4: not reading his keys, still falling behind guys. He just 1304 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 4: doesn't seem like he's ready and this has all been 1305 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,240 Speaker 4: too much for him. But you're right that that position 1306 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 4: needs veterans in it badly. I mean, obviously, Logan Wilson 1307 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,840 Speaker 4: is gone, a Keith Davis gather has gone. All those guys, 1308 01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 4: they need somebody that can show those dudes the row. 1309 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,480 Speaker 2: I've got Yoshi in this list, have my doubts about it. 1310 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 4: I want to like it, and he drives me crazy 1311 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,800 Speaker 4: because he'll have a catch the in I say okay, 1312 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 4: and then we'll have a drop and I'll say come on, 1313 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 4: and it just it seems like that just rotates from 1314 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 4: game to gabe, and that's too inconsistent for a guy 1315 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 4: in his third season. With Jamar and t on the 1316 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 4: outside and the coverages that they demand, You've got to 1317 01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 4: be able to win some one on ones if you're 1318 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 4: andre O Savash and he doesn't do that enough. And 1319 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 4: I know this would drive some Bengals fans crazy, but 1320 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,280 Speaker 4: one of my hot takes is if Carnell Tait's available at. 1321 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 2: Number ten, number eleven, maybe number eight. 1322 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 4: If the Bengals lose, maybe you should take Carnell Tait 1323 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 4: and put him in at that number three wide receiver. 1324 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 4: If not, I think that's a position that you address 1325 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 4: in free agency or in the draft. 1326 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 2: The Bengals are really good. 1327 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,479 Speaker 4: At drafting receivers and give some challenges to Andre Jose Vash. 1328 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 4: And I do wonder if Mitchell Tinsley comes back and 1329 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 4: maybe has a full offseason, if that's more of a 1330 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 4: camp battle next year. 1331 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 3: All right, in the interest of time, I'll move quickly. 1332 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 3: The rest of my have my doubts about I've got 1333 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 3: Orlando Brown Junior, Ted Carris and Charlie Jones fair. 1334 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, three for three on that one, all right? 1335 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 3: And then I'm out on and I hesitate now because 1336 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,360 Speaker 3: TJ had a good game and don't. I'm out on TJ. 1337 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 3: They just need more in the interior and TJ Slaton's 1338 01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 3: not been enough, so I'm out on him. I'm out 1339 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 3: on Oron Burks. 1340 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 4: Thought it was interesting Aaron Burks and Will played five 1341 01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 4: defensive snaps on Sunday and who am I blanking on? 1342 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 2: Somebody else got sixteen? 1343 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 3: A younger guy also on Specialty, Oh Giles, Joe J. 1344 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,840 Speaker 3: Giles Harris played sixteen defensive snaps, which is a career high. 1345 01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 3: I found that interesting. I'm out on McKinley Jackson, I'm 1346 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 3: out on Chris Jenkins, and I'm out on Jake Browning. 1347 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,120 Speaker 2: I agree with all of those, all right. What an 1348 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:22,400 Speaker 2: exercise we put together? 1349 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:22,919 Speaker 5: Now? 1350 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,920 Speaker 3: More rapid fire because they're free agents. Joseph O'SAI. We 1351 01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 3: don't believe fifteen million a year for him? Is that 1352 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:30,920 Speaker 3: what we concluded? 1353 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1354 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 3: I don't think so, don't rise a yes, yes, Kam 1355 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 3: Taylor Britt absolutely not. Did I see a projection of 1356 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 3: Kam Taylor Britt somewhere in the neighborhood of fifteen million 1357 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 3: a year. 1358 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 2: I think you did. 1359 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 3: Whoever pays Cam Taylor Britt fifteen million dollars a year, 1360 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,000 Speaker 3: God bless you. 1361 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 4: We had somebody today say move him to safety your thoughts. 1362 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,720 Speaker 3: I would move him too safety for any other team 1363 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 3: in the NFL, but I would move him off the 1364 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 3: roster here. 1365 01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,920 Speaker 4: Uh no offense, eh kay, I depend on the money. Okay, 1366 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 4: I'd be okay with that. Trey Henderson. No, Joe Flacco 1367 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 4: I would love to have. I'll be curious to see 1368 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 4: how he view what kind of opportunities he has, because 1369 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:10,320 Speaker 4: I'd love to have him. 1370 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 2: Here is Joe's back up. 1371 01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 3: I wonder, in a day and age where young quarterbacks 1372 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 3: aren't figuring things out, if somebody would give him a 1373 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 3: starting job. 1374 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,240 Speaker 4: The Philip Rivers effect, that Joe Flacco effect. Even what 1375 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 4: we've seen from Kirk Cousins with the Falcons over the 1376 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 4: last few games, there's gonna be a market for those 1377 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,960 Speaker 4: older quarterbacks. I would love to have Flacco back. It 1378 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 4: feels like a bit of a long shot. 1379 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,760 Speaker 2: Cam sample. Uh, I'm good. 1380 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:36,400 Speaker 4: Uh we answered the uh the stone question? You know 1381 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 4: he's out cam Grandy Tinsley. 1382 01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:42,720 Speaker 2: I'm intrigued by Mitchell Tinsley. 1383 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 3: Okay, uh, Tyson Anderson special teamer. Clearly he's not. They 1384 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:48,360 Speaker 3: don't believe he's an answer in. 1385 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:52,240 Speaker 4: The second Yeah, safety Robull caliber special teamer, but never 1386 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 4: once got a chance on defense. 1387 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:54,720 Speaker 2: I think that says a lot. 1388 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,440 Speaker 3: Lucas Patrick back his depth on the offensive line. Yes, 1389 01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,959 Speaker 3: I would like see that Bolson I've brought about. 1390 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,880 Speaker 4: I completely forgot about Cordell Volson and Marcus Wilson depth. 1391 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,440 Speaker 2: Surefied. If the money's right, I don't have any problem. 1392 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,560 Speaker 4: I think this offseason we need to have more conversations 1393 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:10,880 Speaker 4: about depths. 1394 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 2: A great question about to have great depth? No question? 1395 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,680 Speaker 3: Uh okay, wait in this segment before we run out 1396 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,640 Speaker 3: of time of the segment, we have to do our 1397 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 3: AFC North card. It is brought to you by Brand Stenters, Gangarroop, 1398 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 3: your hometown roofing, guttering insiding experts covering Cincinnati Holmes for 1399 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 3: over twenty years. 1400 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 2: Visit go Kanga dot net. They hop to it. 1401 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 3: AFC North Preview would be the showdown the final game 1402 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,520 Speaker 3: of the regular season the Ravens the Steelers for the 1403 01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 3: AFC title on Sunday Night. 1404 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 2: Holy cow, who are you rooting for? 1405 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,920 Speaker 3: I kind of default to rooting to rooting for anybody 1406 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 3: that plays the Steelers. I just don't want the Steelers 1407 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,640 Speaker 3: to win the division, so I guess I'm rooting for Baltimore. 1408 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 4: I think it would be funny if Tyler Huntley played 1409 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,400 Speaker 4: really well and they win, and then Lamar comes back 1410 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 4: to the playoffs and they lose. 1411 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:56,080 Speaker 2: They lose. 1412 01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,640 Speaker 3: I think we've taken care of that set, so let's 1413 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 3: come back and wrap it up with the little college 1414 01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 3: football to put the final finishing touches on all this. 1415 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 2: He's Austin, I'm Lance. 1416 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Tax Resolution Power by Tope Shot and Round Table Show, 1417 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 3: Long nexs in Wilder presented by Postman Law seven hundred WLW. 1418 01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 2: All right down the Stretch we Go. 1419 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,800 Speaker 3: Final segment of the ninth final segment of the season 1420 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,919 Speaker 3: from Long Necks in Wilder The Cincinnati Tax Resolution Power 1421 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,960 Speaker 3: by Tope Sheldon round Table Show presented by Postman Law. 1422 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 3: Brought to you in part by Hawksword Blood Centers, Hawksword 1423 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 3: Donor Save Lives Close to Home, Who will you save? 1424 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 3: And before I forget and run out of time, we 1425 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 3: cannot thank Long next enough, all three locations for having 1426 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 3: us back again this season. We love the setup. They 1427 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 3: always take care of us. We look forward to doing 1428 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,920 Speaker 3: it again next season. There is no better place to 1429 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 3: do this show, and week to week it is. It's 1430 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 3: an easy due because of how they treat us. And 1431 01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:02,120 Speaker 3: thank you to everybody. In fact, by the way Laura's 1432 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,840 Speaker 3: working behind the bar tonight. I will tell you right now, 1433 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 3: if you are looking for treats like cheesecake cakes, cupcakes 1434 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:16,720 Speaker 3: made of cheesecake on Facebook, go to Weck Bakes, Weck Bakes, 1435 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,280 Speaker 3: Wet Bakes, and Laura is responsible for all of those. 1436 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,560 Speaker 3: She is the creative genius behind cheesecake. You would not 1437 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:27,960 Speaker 3: believe six inch cheesecake, nine inch cheesecake, cheesecake cupcakes, you 1438 01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:28,440 Speaker 3: name it. 1439 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:29,720 Speaker 2: She is fantastic. 1440 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,600 Speaker 3: She's not hearing all this praise I'm heaping upon her, 1441 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 3: but I I do think and thank you to Mike Mills, 1442 01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,360 Speaker 3: who has been by our side every single week this season, 1443 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 3: and we very much appreciate him. Joe Waddell Producing, who's 1444 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:47,080 Speaker 3: been back there for just about every single night, and uh, 1445 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna put them head of the list because of 1446 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:53,480 Speaker 3: their dedication, their friendship, their photo taking and their gift 1447 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:57,600 Speaker 3: gig giving Fran and his lovely wife Phyllis. It has 1448 01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:59,960 Speaker 3: it would not be the same without you, so thanks, 1449 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,200 Speaker 3: thank you for being a part of this show. There's 1450 01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,800 Speaker 3: been great progress shown by Fran and his ability to 1451 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,240 Speaker 3: use his phone and take pictures with a flash, and 1452 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,960 Speaker 3: we like progress from that standpoint. 1453 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,680 Speaker 2: And now I think I think once. 1454 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,680 Speaker 3: Next year rolls around, Mike is gonna have to bring 1455 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,720 Speaker 3: an extra pair of headsets because I don't think she's 1456 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,320 Speaker 3: giving him back. I think she's gonna listen every week 1457 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 3: on the headsets yea. 1458 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:22,720 Speaker 2: And I think she's gonna have her own show nine 1459 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,680 Speaker 2: to midnight after the round there you go. 1460 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, could you see the Fran and Phyllis show nine 1461 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,600 Speaker 3: at midnight seven hundred WL? I really can wow? That 1462 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 3: would be big. All right, I'm gonna run out of 1463 01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 3: time here. Let's do our first look at Sunday's opponent. 1464 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,320 Speaker 3: Game Day preview, brought to you by Game Day Men's 1465 01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:42,679 Speaker 3: Health Get back in the game today. It's the Cleveland Browns. 1466 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,600 Speaker 3: The only question I will pose from all of that 1467 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:49,519 Speaker 3: is how much would you, if at all, play Joe Burrow? 1468 01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 4: Do you remember Joe Burrow's first ever preseason game against 1469 01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,280 Speaker 4: the Miami Dolphins. He handed the ball off twice and 1470 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,439 Speaker 4: threw a smoke screen to Jamar Chase and he was done. 1471 01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,120 Speaker 4: They should do the exact same thing on Sunday if 1472 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,400 Speaker 4: he if he is so adamant about playing, I don't 1473 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 4: want him to play more than a series. I want 1474 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,360 Speaker 4: him to hand the ball on it as a preseason 1475 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,519 Speaker 4: treated as a preseason game. It felt like a preseason 1476 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:13,080 Speaker 4: game against Arizona yesterday or someday. That's how you got 1477 01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 4: to treat it as far as I'm concerned. Give Flacco 1478 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,519 Speaker 4: a chance, maybe get Browning a chance. 1479 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be inclined to at the start of 1480 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,759 Speaker 3: the week, which was all I guess. Yesterday, I was thinking, 1481 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,759 Speaker 3: maybe the first half, turn it over to Joe Flacco 1482 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 3: to face his former team. In the second half, I 1483 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,760 Speaker 3: might be understanding of a quarter with Joe or a 1484 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:32,280 Speaker 3: couple of. 1485 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:37,880 Speaker 2: Drives, and then that's it. I just I've seen it 1486 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,480 Speaker 2: and it's not I've. 1487 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,920 Speaker 3: Argued all along, players play, and I wanted Joe to 1488 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:42,679 Speaker 3: return to play. 1489 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:43,200 Speaker 2: I agree. 1490 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:47,120 Speaker 3: I think as well as he is played in this stretch, 1491 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,759 Speaker 3: it's almost like box checked. 1492 01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,320 Speaker 2: I'm good. I don't need to see anymore. 1493 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,640 Speaker 3: So if if you give me maybe a drive and 1494 01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,200 Speaker 3: hand it off, I think I'd lean your way and 1495 01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:58,680 Speaker 3: be good with it. 1496 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,320 Speaker 4: I had the same thought earlier today. It's like, you've 1497 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,680 Speaker 4: proven what you've needed to prove. You came back, you 1498 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,080 Speaker 4: found a way to play, you gave it your all, 1499 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,720 Speaker 4: you rebounded from the awful game against the Ravens. Everybody 1500 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,840 Speaker 4: knows who you are and what this is supposed to 1501 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,920 Speaker 4: look like. You just can't risk with all the stuff 1502 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:18,240 Speaker 4: that has to happen this offseason, you can't risk doing 1503 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,920 Speaker 4: that again with an injured Joe Burrow. And I agree 1504 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,080 Speaker 4: with you, players should play. I agree with all of that, 1505 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,439 Speaker 4: And it's just I also don't want Miles Garrett to 1506 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,519 Speaker 4: destroy him, to set the record and get that sack. 1507 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,880 Speaker 4: Rather that be against Joe Flaco or Jake Browning. And 1508 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,240 Speaker 4: I don't think Joe Burrow is gonna be Michael Strahan 1509 01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,080 Speaker 4: to Brett Farv and just lay down for Miles Murphy 1510 01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:41,519 Speaker 4: either or for Miles Garrett. 1511 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,280 Speaker 2: And yeah, I've seen enough. I'm done. I'm good. 1512 01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,920 Speaker 3: All right, Let's travel Rockies Road brought to you by 1513 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,639 Speaker 3: Queen City Metro. Metro is hiring a play at godash 1514 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 3: metro dot com slash careers. We thank Queen City Metro 1515 01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:55,800 Speaker 3: for being a part of the show. Each and every week. 1516 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:59,120 Speaker 3: Rocky is on assignment. I honestly don't remember which game 1517 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:00,880 Speaker 3: he's doing, but I know he's on the road, so 1518 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,599 Speaker 3: that qualifies for the read of the card. And look 1519 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,240 Speaker 3: forward to working with rock again next year. Let's do 1520 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,000 Speaker 3: the Kelsey Chevrolet College Football Preview. 1521 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:09,240 Speaker 2: To wrap it up. 1522 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,160 Speaker 3: Kelsey Chevrolet is lighting up the season with big savings 1523 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,599 Speaker 3: and the big news today. By the way, Kelsey Chevrolet, 1524 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:19,120 Speaker 3: my guys are back for extra innings next season. As 1525 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,599 Speaker 3: the sponsor of Kelsey Chevrolet Extra Innings, they're gonna be 1526 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,639 Speaker 3: continue to present sports talk. They're gonna be presenting Down 1527 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,639 Speaker 3: on the Farm, the college football preview, the college basketball preview. 1528 01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,360 Speaker 3: That makes me very happy. I am honored. I'm excited 1529 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,840 Speaker 3: about that. So thank you guys for being back. And 1530 01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,920 Speaker 3: that will lead us into our final thoughts in the 1531 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,439 Speaker 3: college football playoffs. Your Buckeyes will play tomorrow night, first 1532 01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:44,240 Speaker 3: time in twenty five days. My goodness, Please condense this 1533 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,960 Speaker 3: schedule next season, get rid of buys, do whatever you 1534 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,880 Speaker 3: have to do, but I'll ask you again one week later. 1535 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 3: How do you feel tomorrow night, when you're gonna be 1536 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 3: banging pots and pans and eating Buckeyes. How do you 1537 01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,240 Speaker 3: feel about your buck Eyes against the hurricane. I think 1538 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,280 Speaker 3: I feel a little bit better right now than I 1539 01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,640 Speaker 3: did a week ago. I believe in Jeremiah Smith, I 1540 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,360 Speaker 3: believe in Matt Patricia. With twenty five days to prepare 1541 01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,240 Speaker 3: in I guess twelve and a half days or whatever 1542 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,599 Speaker 3: it is to prepare for the Miami Hurricanes, I think 1543 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,360 Speaker 3: Ohio State has more talent than Miami has seen. 1544 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,760 Speaker 4: At any point this season. I got the buck Eyes, 1545 01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,559 Speaker 4: but I do think Miami covers. I think it's a 1546 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 4: seven to ten point game. 1547 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:24,960 Speaker 2: All right. You know what I would do? 1548 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,160 Speaker 3: My final thought on all the college football I was 1549 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,320 Speaker 3: thinking about this because January twenty third is the deadline 1550 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 3: to make their recommendation for what. 1551 01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:33,680 Speaker 2: They're gonna do next. I would do. 1552 01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,800 Speaker 3: I would expand to sixteen teams. I get rid of 1553 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,240 Speaker 3: the buys, I get rid of conference championship games. I 1554 01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,360 Speaker 3: do home field for the first round and the second round, 1555 01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,760 Speaker 3: and that would squeeze. I would squeeze the schedule and 1556 01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,479 Speaker 3: say nobody's going twenty six days be between all days, 1557 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,920 Speaker 3: because this thing is just dragged on, just dragged on. 1558 01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,680 Speaker 4: I don't love all that, but I can I can 1559 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,760 Speaker 4: get with it as long as we get rid of 1560 01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:58,280 Speaker 4: automatic qualifiers as well. 1561 01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,200 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean as well. 1562 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,519 Speaker 4: All right, we're I got Georgia, I got Alabama, I 1563 01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:04,920 Speaker 4: got Texas Tech as well. 1564 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,479 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, you're taking Alabama to be Joe Bonn Hills, Hoosier. 1565 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 2: Give me the time you're out of here. I was 1566 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:15,000 Speaker 2: enjoying this until now. This was fun. 1567 01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,640 Speaker 3: Thank you for filling in for Rockets having Thank you 1568 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,400 Speaker 3: everybody for being a part of the show throughout the year. 1569 01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:25,680 Speaker 3: Stick around the West Miller Show is next. Happy New Year, everybody. 1570 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,920 Speaker 3: It's the Cincinnati, tex Resolution powered by Tope Showdon Round 1571 01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,559 Speaker 3: Table Show Long Next in Wild are presented by Postman 1572 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,920 Speaker 3: Law seven hundred WLW