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Speaker 1: This is the Mark Mannon Show. Follow me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at mark mann Next. I'm not, by any means pissing

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Speaker 1: on the season. Kenneth Gainwell had, you know, had some

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Speaker 1: good games, made some big plays that catch at Detroit,

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Speaker 1: But it goes to show you it ain't been a

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Speaker 1: great year when the number two running back is MVP.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, it also goes to show those

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Speaker 1: guys voting are morons.

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Speaker 2: I bet Gainwell.

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Speaker 1: You know, any team vote is basically a popularity contest.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, they just must not have liked Ben

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Speaker 1: back in the Roethlisberger era. They should have. He was

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Speaker 1: the primary reason for their greatness. But that's the locker

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Speaker 1: room for you. Okay, here's how this game on Sunday

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Speaker 1: is going to go. The Steelers can't fall behind because

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Speaker 1: they can't come from behind. Rogers had three quarters to

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Speaker 1: throw the Steelers back into the game at Cleveland and

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Speaker 1: couldn't and can't not without the Kaylin Zacharias, Metcalf and

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Speaker 1: Baltimore is obviously a much better team. The Steelers running

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Speaker 1: game is their best bet, but even then, it's Warren

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Speaker 1: and team MVP. Kenneth Gainwell against Derrick Henry I'd rather

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Speaker 1: have Derrick Henry. You can't like that matchup. Although it

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Speaker 1: looks like Lamar is gonna play, he says he is,

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Speaker 1: and that could gum up the works for Baltimore. By

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Speaker 1: way of reasons, we've discussed this week what apparently gonna

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Speaker 1: address for optics. I don't know how much he's gonna play,

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Speaker 1: And if he doesn't play much, maybe that's okay because

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Speaker 1: the modern day warrior Jack Sawyer is very good against

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Speaker 1: the run. And if I'm Baltimore and what's in there,

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Speaker 1: I run right at him. See how much that lungs healed?

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry bang boom. But here's the reality. Baltimore has

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Speaker 1: all the momentum, the momentum battering green Bay and especially

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Speaker 1: the momentum of an unexpected reprieve. They thought they was

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Speaker 1: dead and the Steelers lost to Cleveland, and now it's

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Speaker 1: one game and they win the division and they make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. That will adrenalize coming back from the dead.

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is by far the number one weapon in

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Speaker 1: Sunday's game, and Rogers will not change how the Steelers

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Speaker 1: play offensively, will not. We've heard about the Cower plan.

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Speaker 1: Play action tight ends blah blah blah. And that's all

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Speaker 1: it is is blah blah blah as far as Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers is concerned. Because for the Grand Pod game manager,

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Speaker 1: it's MBS and Miller or Bust, which is why I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of betting bust. And I remind you targeting those

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Speaker 1: two bums a total of sixteen times on Sunday. Didn't

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Speaker 1: score even a single touchdown at Cleveland. I mean, Cleveland

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Speaker 1: got a good defense, but it didn't work. They didn't

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Speaker 1: score one touchdown. Now, if dk Metcalf plays, the Steelers

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Speaker 1: win a Cleveland, but he ain't playing Sunday night at

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Speaker 1: home against Baltimore either.

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Speaker 2: Isaac Siamalbu is at left guard. He's been out. That's

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Speaker 2: a big read.

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Speaker 1: If you want to go run game against one game,

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Speaker 1: he gives you a much better shot getting him back

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Speaker 1: is big. And by the way, whoever made the decision

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Speaker 1: that the Steelers didn't need a better number two receiver

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Speaker 1: is the person most responsible if the Steelers blow their season.

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Speaker 2: Well tied with the Kaylin.

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Speaker 1: Zachariace Metcalf for getting suspended, I'd say, Tom, if it

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Speaker 1: comes to this, can the Steelers come from behind in

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Speaker 1: this game by down then by down more than one score.

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Speaker 3: I should clarify, no, there's no chance. I know how

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Speaker 3: much we hate when they do this, but they got

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Speaker 3: to force a rock fight in this game against the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: That's that's where you're at with your offense. You can't

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Speaker 3: score that much with that.

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Speaker 1: With that, the Kaitlin Zachariz Metcalf, you're right, and they

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Speaker 3: And the Cmal thing really is encouraging because that should

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Speaker 3: help in the run game. I just have no confidence

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Speaker 3: that they're going to stick to their running game, that

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Speaker 3: they're going to commit to it, because they dump out

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Speaker 3: of it so easily.

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Speaker 1: Especially now with Washington hurt, it gives him excuse say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they just still do the No, they can't do it.

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Speaker 2: But it's not the same.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be like seven offensive linemen on the field

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Speaker 3: at that point.

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Speaker 1: I believe they should use Rogers one running back in

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Speaker 1: nine offensive linemen. I think we'll get the job done.

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Speaker 1: I think that would get the job done correct. Now,

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Speaker 1: we've talked about Cower's idea, lots of play accident targeting

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Speaker 1: and neither would Tomblin, maybe because it's Cower's idea. I

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Speaker 1: just don't think Rogers has any desire or sees any

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Speaker 3: I do agree with you, but let me just play

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Speaker 3: Devil's advocate a little bit and just say, this is

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Speaker 3: a defense that doesn't pressure the quarterback at all. So

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Speaker 3: if there's ever a time to, you know, turn your

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Speaker 3: back to the defense, allow a play action pass to happen,

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Speaker 3: which is a little longer developing, to work the seams,

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Speaker 3: to work the middle of the field. It's against this

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Speaker 3: Ravens defense, like the Old Man is not gonna be.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no.

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Speaker 1: I think that Commer's idea is the way to go.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think Rogers has any interest in doing it.

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Speaker 3: I don't either, but hopefully he sees that with the

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Speaker 3: rate like this isn't Miles Garrett breathing down your neck,

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Speaker 3: or you don't have to get rid of the ball quickly.

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Speaker 1: Boy, if we overrated Rodgers's performance this year, me too,

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Speaker 1: Me too. I mean, he probably should have been team

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Speaker 1: MVP by default, but he's Grandpa game manager.

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Speaker 2: That's my nickname for him now, Grandpa game manager.

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Speaker 1: What's he really do besides just flick short passes and

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Speaker 1: once in a while throw a deep ball that rarely

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Speaker 1: gets caught, just to show he can still do it,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if we overrated him to the point

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Speaker 3: of the Cleveland game, but that was definitely an important

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Speaker 3: moment in his evaluation that he failed miserably, and I

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Speaker 3: think changes quite frankly drastically how you evaluate Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: this season. Because the arm talent has been there at times,

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Speaker 3: and he's had, you know, a couple four touchdown games.

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Speaker 3: But you have to win that game in Cleveland. I

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Speaker 3: don't care about the DK Metcalf thing or anything. You

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Speaker 3: have to win that game.

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Speaker 2: I've been saying, yeah with or with that DK.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if they blow the division in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: it won't be because they lose this Sunny. It'll be

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Speaker 1: because they lost last Sunday. And to me to win,

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Speaker 1: and I am picking Baltimore by the way, I'll give

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Speaker 1: my official score and everything later, as I will force

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Speaker 1: you to do. But to win, the Steelers gotta get

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Speaker 1: lucky or Baltimore has to blow it, and either one

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Speaker 1: could happen because, like Zeis said on Wednesday, Harbaugh is

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Speaker 3: And I think there's gonna be temptation there with Lamar

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Speaker 3: Jackson playing to get away from Derrick Henry more than

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Speaker 3: they should in this game. I mean, that's just that's

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Speaker 3: what happens, and.

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Speaker 1: There's no need to mix it up unless you get behind.

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Speaker 1: But I think they could, Oh they could because Harba

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Speaker 1: isn't dope. They could pound Henry early. They could get

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Speaker 1: a lead. This okay, let's get Lamar into the mix. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So then again, if they get a lead early, they

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Speaker 3: But I still think that let's get Lamar in the

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Speaker 3: mix thing is gonna be a factor. If it was

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Speaker 3: just hunting, it would almost just be a layup for them.

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Speaker 3: As far as game plan, it would be easy for

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Speaker 3: these coaches. You know, they're gonna feel a need to

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Speaker 3: get eight involved in the offense because when he's healthy,

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Speaker 3: you should do that. He's one of the best quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: in football. But he's not himself this year and.

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Speaker 2: He was dinged up.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: I would play snoop, I would do, but they just

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Speaker 1: can't like once he said he was playing. They just can't,

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Speaker 1: especially given that article in The Baltimore Son that ripped

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Speaker 1: Lamar and called into question the relationship between him and Harbaugh.

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Speaker 1: It makes so they have to play Lamar if he

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Speaker 1: says he's he's available by.

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Speaker 3: That at all, him falling asleep in meetings like that,

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Speaker 3: they're alleged, and that absolutely I don't know why someone

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Speaker 3: would take that to someone like the Baltimore Son, for

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Speaker 3: a player like Lamar Jackson, if they weren't for sure

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Speaker 3: that that was happening, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 3: that's a pretty wild alleca.

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Speaker 1: All you need, all you need is another player who

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Speaker 1: was in the room to corroborate it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And and James Harrison did it here.

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Speaker 1: There was no there was no shortage of people you know,

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Speaker 1: on the team ratting them out.

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: From what I'm told, How much will Watt play and

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Speaker 1: how effective will he be given the time off in

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Speaker 1: the nature of his injury.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna play that much. Do you

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Speaker 3: think he's gonna have like a Willis Reid moment, like

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Speaker 3: where he comes out he gets a big strip, sack,

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Speaker 3: pumps the crowd up. Then he limps off the field again.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's read almost did nothing in that one shot, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he was supposed.

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Speaker 2: To not didn't get bench, just couldn't go.

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Speaker 1: But like, yeah, him limping out there to start the

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Speaker 1: game was like this big inspirational moment because we always

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Speaker 1: basically exaggerate anything that a New York sports team does.

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Speaker 3: Watch it play like ten to fifteen snaps. I just

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Speaker 3: don't know how he could be that effective playing his

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Speaker 3: full workload. He's he would get run over by Derreck

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Speaker 3: Henry in that game, and I.

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Speaker 2: Think they will.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would have Derrick Henry go right at

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Speaker 1: him if he's out there, and I'm right over up

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Speaker 1: early early downs has to be Sawyer.

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Speaker 3: Then on your late pass rush downs, it's her big

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Speaker 3: and Highsmith and you sprinkle water in that.

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Speaker 2: I'm wably down on her big Like onen's his contract up.

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Speaker 3: I think he's got another year on it wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't give him much dough.

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Speaker 1: I just can't con on it to be healthy and pla,

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Speaker 1: he's only a pass rusher. People say his one defense

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Speaker 1: has gotten better. It ain't as good as Jack Sawyer's.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he is playing hurt right now, but there's no

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Speaker 3: question that he's slowing down at this point. And again

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Speaker 3: maybe it's playing through injury, but he's not effective. He's

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Speaker 3: just not bringing anything to the table. He's up in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven, so he's got one more year after this.

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Speaker 1: Here's why I think Baltimore's gonna win Tom. I feel

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Speaker 1: like they're gonna smell blood. Like I said that, that

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Speaker 1: adrenaline from being reprieved, from thinking your dad and coming back.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna smell blood. And the Steelers are ready to fail.

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Speaker 1: I think the first chance they get to do so,

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Speaker 1: they will. And I feel like the Crowded Act for

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Speaker 1: sure will also be ready to fail and be positive

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Speaker 1: at the beginning but then turn surly at the first

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Speaker 1: sign of trouble.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Ravens getting the Resurrection Act is a huge deal.

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Speaker 3: They thought our season was done. It was just a

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Speaker 3: nice moment in Green Bay, right, and we'll tune in

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Speaker 3: on Sunday and see what happens in the Browns game,

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Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, they're like, holy crap,

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Speaker 3: this just got real. So that's big. They're just gonna

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Speaker 3: get flattened by Hotry That's where I'm atiz.

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Speaker 1: As I rode in the trib everybody wants the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Same thing would go for Willis if he came here.

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Speaker 3: He's just not that very much of a good quarterback

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but my point is Willis has only had a

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Speaker 1: Let's say Rogers wants to play next year and the

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Speaker 2: Not gonna happen. They'll they'll bring him back.

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Speaker 1: But would any other team want him, because don't forget

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Speaker 1: I think McCarthy showed enough at Minnesota when it'd stick

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Speaker 3: I like McCarthy and that team rallied. I mean Mark,

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Speaker 2: Should have franchised him. But who knew I mean, who knew.

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Speaker 1: That he was the quarterback he's turned out to be

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Speaker 1: He's Grandpa game manager. He ain't that Rodgers. He's proven

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Speaker 1: He came to Pittsburgh, he's playing pretty much the same.

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Speaker 3: So it's going to be Pittsburgh then, right like, if

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Speaker 2: Well, let me let me cut right to the chase.

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Speaker 1: If the Steelers lose to Baltimore and blow the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: Is he a failure in Pittsburgh? I think so.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you were worse than you were last year, quite literally,

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Speaker 1: I think you could make the argument Russ did better

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Speaker 3: Yes you can.

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Speaker 3: Russ just completely collapsed down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: What do you call this? It's just it's just a

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Speaker 1: Like I said, if they lose the last two games,

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Speaker 1: feel like the more Rogers took over with a game

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Speaker 1: it took a while. And here's something nobody wants to

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Speaker 1: talk about. Go to Pro Football Reference and get Rogers's

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Speaker 1: each stat column and click on it, and it puts

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Speaker 1: the numbers in order, okay, like from high to low.

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Speaker 1: You know, not chronologically, but you know best. The worst

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Speaker 1: Rogers's numbers this year are the lowest He's hats. That's

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Speaker 3: That's shocking, but also not that shocking, especially when it

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Speaker 3: comes to the yards per attempt, right because I'm sure

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Speaker 3: that's obviously the first thing that jumped out to you.

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Speaker 3: Because he's not pushing the ball down the field anymore.

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Speaker 3: As you say, he's old man, game manager. Get the

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Speaker 3: ball out quick, Grandpa game Grandpa, game manager, Get the

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Speaker 3: ball out quick, the game manager, and you're the best

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Speaker 3: of this. That's what he does now, that's what he's

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Speaker 3: become and it can only take you so far, and

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, and I'm all the things I'm

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Speaker 1: criticizing Rogers for now. I did praise too for a

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Speaker 1: it's resulted in the Steelers not running the ball nearly enough.

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Speaker 3: Come on, that Browns game just undid almost all of

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Speaker 3: the good that Rogers has brought to the table this year.

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Speaker 3: Now he can get it back by winning on Sunday

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Speaker 3: and playing well and getting the AFC North and getting

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Speaker 3: So he loses these two games. Absolute failure down the

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Speaker 3: to get away from him. But you're so right. They

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Speaker 1: What do you think Rogers wants to do Do you

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Speaker 1: think he'll want to play next year? I mean, I

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is a good situation if he's not worked out

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Speaker 3: Do you think he knows right now? I don't know

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Speaker 2: I don't think he knows.

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Speaker 3: He does strike me as a guy that does need

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Speaker 3: year where he said, you know when you're forty years old.

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Speaker 3: You wake up and roll out of bed one morning

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Speaker 3: and you feel great, and the next morning you feel

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Speaker 3: like crap. And that's kind of where I'm at right now.

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Speaker 3: He can't be an NFL quarterback if it's a day

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Speaker 3: to day thing like that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's Steelers or nobody, because like it

442
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Speaker 1: was Steelers and nobody this year. He'd rather gone to Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, but he went to the only team that

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Speaker 1: wanted him, and I don't think his performance was good

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Speaker 1: enough to warrant any more teams wanting him.

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Speaker 3: And with the Steelers, he's the devil they know Miami.

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Speaker 3: How about that one. I'll throw that one out at you.

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Speaker 3: If he went cheap to go to Mike McDaniel and

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Speaker 3: play with that offense.

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Speaker 1: Kind of Another talk is McDaniel might leave there and

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Speaker 1: go on his own. No, no, like there's an oh Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: Like if Cleveland fire.

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Speaker 2: Stefanski, then McDaniel would go there. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Again, that's grasping at straws, Like Miami has to pay

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Speaker 3: two of fifty million plus dollars, how would they then

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Speaker 3: be able to get Rogers? But that's where you're at,

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Speaker 3: trying to find it.

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Speaker 1: Tea he could go to Miami would see itself as

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Speaker 1: a team that could do anything significant with Rogers at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They might just bite the bullet and put whoever at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: or maybe even put twa back as long as they're

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Speaker 1: paying them.

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Speaker 3: Nobody should see themselves as a team that could do

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Speaker 3: anything significant with this version of Aaron Rodgers right now,

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Speaker 3: even a great team, right Yeah, but he's not a

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Speaker 3: missing piece.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't even conn themselves into a Vincent and the

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Speaker 1: price in the BS wouldn't be worth it.

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Speaker 3: No, No, that said, he's worked cheap this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I don't know if that's a guarantee next year.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think that might be like a one

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Speaker 3: time thing because Rogers kind of had to prove it

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Speaker 3: this year. Although what did he really prove again he's

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Speaker 3: gonna miss the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: Well again, I feel like we've overrated Rogers all year,

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Speaker 1: me too, like we let the numbers lie. Like I've

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Speaker 1: been talking about. Go to Pro Football Reference, do that

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Speaker 1: clicking thing I talked about, you'll see what I mean.

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Speaker 2: He's just Grandpa game manager.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, what if Russ makes the playoffs

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Speaker 1: and he don't Russ last year.

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Speaker 3: And you know the toughest thing too, is I would

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Speaker 3: love to see what this team really looked like if

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Speaker 3: they leaned into the run game like they properly should

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Speaker 3: have been all year long, because it's shown signs of

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Speaker 3: life all season. Warren and Game One are your best

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Speaker 3: players on that.

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Speaker 1: I think it was hard to win a Cleveland with

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Speaker 1: op DK. If they had leaned on the running game

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Speaker 1: like I think they should have, they might have won anyway.

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Speaker 1: Probably would have won anyway.

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Speaker 3: Like what if their game plan against Cleveland was similar

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Speaker 3: to the game plan that the Ravens had against the

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Speaker 3: Packers fifty plus carries, just pound the rock as much

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Speaker 3: as possible.

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Speaker 2: I think they would have won.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny too, look at Russ's numbers last

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Speaker 1: year against Rodgers'. I mean, Rodgers has ain't no better

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Speaker 1: than Russ last year. You know what the thing is,

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Speaker 1: we saw Russ as soft because he was a nice guy,

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Speaker 1: and we see Rodgers as a competitor because he's an ass.

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Speaker 2: And honestly, I think it's that simple.

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Speaker 1: Steeler fans in the media and like I said, me,

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Speaker 1: for a lot of the year, we're so easily fooled.

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Speaker 3: They both just weren't good enough. And it's enough with

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Speaker 3: these old bombing quarterbacks. They have to turn the page

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Speaker 3: from that. They can't get stuck in this rut where

508
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Speaker 3: it's just all right, Kirk Cousins, come on down your

509
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Speaker 3: next like it has to be somebody in the draft.

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Speaker 3: It has to be a younger player.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You could make the argument that Russell Wilson was better

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Speaker 3: than Aaron Rodgers even statistically for a stretch. Rodgers really

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Speaker 3: passed them with touchdown passes. But again, where does it

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Speaker 3: all lead you to? Maybe one less win?

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Speaker 1: Up next, the Little Penguins talk a little college football

517
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Speaker 1: playoff talk. I actually watched them, I mean some mean

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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes anyway of what game was it again?

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Speaker 1: One oh five nine The Holie Show, Mark Madden, all

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: App one oh five nine.

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Speaker 9: The x West Ruler Here stay up to date with

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Speaker 9: everything happening in Steelers Nation. Join me and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 9: for the Drive weekday afternoons from four to six and

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Speaker 9: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 9: HD two and streaming anytime on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 5: Running for office means having something in Pedland Show on

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Speaker 5: one oh five nine d X.

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Speaker 1: For those who are big fans the Peanuts comic strip,

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Speaker 1: I retweeted an animated a clip of Charlie Bryan the

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Speaker 1: first time he sees Snoopy and adopts him. It's just

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Speaker 1: just wonderful. Also wonderful, the Penguins have not won three

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Speaker 1: in a row. They beat Detroit in overtime last night,

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Speaker 1: four to three. The Tanget's the game winner and career

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Speaker 1: game number twelve hundred, SID with the apple on that goal,

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Speaker 1: and he scored the first two goals, and he scored

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Speaker 1: the first goal of the game for like this dillionth time. Actually,

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Speaker 1: he's now tied fourth all time with Gordie Howe. SID

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Speaker 1: is still so good at thirty eight. At this point,

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Speaker 1: it's uncharted. Waters Lazatt scored. He's a difference maker on

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Speaker 1: the fourth line, and he proved it in his absence.

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Speaker 1: Gino's missed thirteen games but skated in practice today. No

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Speaker 1: contact excuse me a full contact jersey, so the standard jersey,

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Speaker 1: I should say. So hopefully he gets back it was

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Speaker 1: a fun night at the rink last night, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Tom.

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Speaker 1: That first goal stuff was sid first goal of the game.

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Speaker 1: It's just off the hook, fourth most ever. And as

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Speaker 1: I said earlier this week, because he did it earlier

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Speaker 1: this week, the Steelers could take a lesson. Sid always

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Speaker 1: shows up one hundred percent ready to play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there is no coming out flat with Sid. What

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Speaker 3: a goal last night, too, Mark, I mean, it's just

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Speaker 3: a total freaking rocket on the power play from Sid.

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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody even saw it, Penguins included, as

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Speaker 3: it went by everybody and into the back of the net.

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. Then he scores a goal about a minute

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Speaker 3: and a half later. It makes it too nothing Penguins.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just stakes them to a big lead in

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Speaker 3: a big game. And I know they did blow that

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Speaker 3: lead and they went to overtime, but they won it

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Speaker 3: at the end. I mean, these Penguins two really good

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Speaker 3: efforts these past two games.

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Speaker 1: Well, they were worthy winners. I mean they it was

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Speaker 1: the refereeing was awful. Nine penalties right. It put the

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Speaker 1: Penguins down a man for almost ten minutes of the

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Speaker 1: first period. Crazy, and then they stopped calling it in

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Speaker 1: the second period, maybe they felt that the flow was

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Speaker 1: being disrupted, but you got to call the whole game

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Speaker 1: the same way. I think, you know, Tom, every game

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Speaker 1: is a big game for them because I mean, look

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Speaker 1: at the standings.

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Speaker 2: But if the Penguins good or bad, I wish they'd

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Speaker 2: make up their minds.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just that eight game losing streak

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Speaker 3: is just so annoying in there.

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Speaker 2: The leads too.

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Speaker 3: Yes, if they could have just you know, pulled out

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Speaker 3: that Sharks game, pulled out that Utah game, if.

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Speaker 1: They would have won half of them, they'd be either

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Speaker 1: in or close to second place in the Metro.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to say they're not good though yet, because

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Speaker 3: they're only three points back at second place in the

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Speaker 3: Metro with two games in hand of the Islanders. So

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Speaker 3: they take care of business, they're in second place.

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Speaker 2: I still love watching Sid so much.

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Speaker 1: You know, when he's no longer playing, it's going to

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Speaker 1: really be an adjustment.

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Speaker 2: After you know, Mario and Yaggs and Gino.

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Speaker 1: And Sid, even Ronnie Francis, h Paul Coffee, so many

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Speaker 1: great players. Sid's a top five player all time. I've

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Speaker 1: said that for like five years, but he keeps reminding us,

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Speaker 1: and I keep saying it because not enough people do.

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Speaker 3: And you can definitely say he's aging more graceful than

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Speaker 3: anybody that was.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's played better at thirty eight than sid.

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Speaker 3: It never feels like it'll be the same at thirty

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Speaker 3: like point wise, maybe Sackic, but maybe those were just

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Speaker 3: points no offense to Joe. Sid might catch him at

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Speaker 3: points though, too. I don't think it's out of the question, right.

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Speaker 1: Well, Sakki had like a hundred and sum. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was thirty eight, but it was a different era,

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Speaker 1: different different style of hockey.

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Speaker 3: So but no one's going to confuse Joe Sakic for

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Speaker 3: being better than Sidney Crosby. He is a top five player. Ever,

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Speaker 3: it's unbelievable to see him do this, and Mark he's

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Speaker 3: gonna get shot out of a cannon for these Olympics.

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Speaker 1: He's I don't think anybody should confuse Gordy how Its

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Speaker 1: being a better player, or Yager, who I love, or

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Speaker 1: of course or Ov although goals are a very valuable currency.

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Speaker 1: But I think Sid is clearly. I think Sid is

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Speaker 1: the number four player of all time.

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Speaker 2: That's it. I don't think he can crack Gretzky or Lemieux.

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Speaker 1: Not in that orgy of hot Warren Gretzky in order

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Speaker 1: for me, Yeah, no, I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: Tom.

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Speaker 1: What's your take on the college football playoffs? Indiana is

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Speaker 1: an absolute phenomenon.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we should just accept that they're going

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Speaker 3: to win the national championship right now.

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Speaker 2: He's still gonna win the game. Yeah, but if this

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Speaker 2: was like.

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Speaker 3: You know, Alabama from a couple of years ago, like

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Speaker 3: that logo on the side of the helmet, we would

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Speaker 3: pretty much have assumed.

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Speaker 1: That, oh, if they battered Alabama like like like Alabama

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Speaker 1: used to that.

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Speaker 3: Being said, like, I think Oregon, Miami and Ole Miss

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Speaker 3: are really good football teams too.

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Speaker 1: And I love miss is winning KIF and with a

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Speaker 1: lot of Lane Kiffin's staff having stuck around.

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Speaker 2: Although that's weird too. I know, Oh, you needed.

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Speaker 1: Somebody to coach, and I would not let Kiffin stick around,

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Speaker 1: but they let the assistants stick around, which seems to

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Speaker 1: some small degree contradictory.

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Speaker 3: Now they're in a bit of a tough spot because

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Speaker 3: the transfer portal opens today. You got to hit the

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00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 3: recruiting trail. You need your coaching staff in place as LSU.

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Speaker 3: They're still at Old Miss, still coaching Old Miss, and

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Speaker 3: is Kiffin gonna pull him back now? There's some people

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Speaker 3: speculating that he might. It's a total FU to him though.

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Speaker 1: If I were those coaches, I would say no, I

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Speaker 1: would say I'm not schooling that kids that now.

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Speaker 3: Plus for yourself, you're that close to winning a national championship.

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Speaker 3: The biggest FU to Lane Kiffin though, is that they

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Speaker 3: lost to Georgia earlier this year. That was their one

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Speaker 3: loss when Lane Kiffin was their coach. Then they go

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Speaker 3: out there without him and they beat him in the

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Speaker 3: playoff game. I watched like a quarter of that game.

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Speaker 3: What's the quarter of the h Indiana game? Watch the

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Speaker 3: quarter of Miami beating O High State.

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Speaker 1: So I've watched three quarters of the college football playoff

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Speaker 1: and for me, with college sports the way I feel

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Speaker 1: about them, that's a lot. Here's a good question, Tom,

657
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Speaker 1: if Indiana can do what they're doing, why can't Pitt

658
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Speaker 1: And how did Indiana leap frog Penn State?

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Speaker 3: Uh, Pitt doesn't have the backing from you know, like

660
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Speaker 3: boosters and alumni networks like Indiana came flooding with the money.

661
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: Was there for India?

662
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: Nor do they even close to having the coach.

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Speaker 1: Very Snetti to Paton Mardoozy is like comparing Briar's ice

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Speaker 1: cream and horsemen.

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Speaker 3: Although for a Penn State or a pit, a pit

666
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Speaker 3: especially to let us Signetti get out from under them,

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00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean with the history that that

668
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: school has with Dad and stuff like that, Like that's

669
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 3: a bad step from them, bad look from them. I

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00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: can explain that pit or a bunch of idiots, that's

671
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: very good explanation. But the money thing, like you know,

672
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: the Golden Panthers, they like to pretend like they can

673
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: drop the back mark. They're losing players left and right.

674
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: Right now, Rashem Biles is in the portal because they're

675
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: just not going to pay them. They don't have the

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Speaker 3: money or the financial commitment that some of these schools

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Speaker 3: like Indiana does.

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Speaker 2: Who's your favorite to win it now?

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Speaker 3: Indiana? I think Indiana is by far the best team

680
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Speaker 3: in the country. I do think Miami's front though they

681
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: have the best player in ruben Bain their defensive line,

682
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 3: they could wreck a game against Indians who were the semis.

683
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: Miami plays Old miss and then Oregon plays Indiana. That's

684
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Speaker 3: a rematch. Oregon lost by ten to Indiana earlier this year.

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Speaker 1: Does Oregon in Indiana feel like the real final of

686
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Speaker 1: the teams that are left.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Because of Miami's defense. Their defense is

688
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: so good. You saw a little bit of that highest

689
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Speaker 3: State game they recked.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 1: Michael irvins at all the games, and ray Lewis too. Yeah,

692
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Speaker 1: it's like they're just whapped out of their minds.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's been an intriguing playoffs. I may even

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Speaker 1: watch another quarter of the semifinals at some point. Uh, Tom,

696
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Speaker 1: getting back to hockey real quick? What would your take

697
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 1: on the US Olympic roster? It has me angry?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I share your anger. I mean brock Nelson sucks.

699
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 3: Seth Jones that sucks too. I mean there's just a

700
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Speaker 3: bunch of other players that you would rather have on

701
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Speaker 3: the team. Jason Robertson, I think is probably the biggest snub,

702
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Speaker 3: would you say, I mean they left.

703
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Speaker 1: They left five of the top US born scorers in

704
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Speaker 1: the NHL, five of the top ten out of the roster,

705
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Speaker 1: including Robertson, who's number two. You picked brock Nelson over

706
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: Jason Robertson. That's ridiculous. Wayne Hudson is an Olympic style defenseman.

707
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: Cole Kawfield has all the skill at the role they

708
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: they're plotting in their slow and like Jesse Marshall, the

709
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: Athletics said they're ten years behind the times.

710
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: In fact, I would say they're more than ten years

711
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Speaker 2: behind the times.

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Speaker 3: They kind of just ran it back with the four

713
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: Nations team, right, like for the most part.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean rof Nelson was on the four Nation Once.

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Speaker 1: I saw some of the picks they made, Yeah, that

717
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: they far over blue. I'm really like, I like Billy Garon,

718
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: I like Sully. They're screwing the pooch with this one,

719
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: and they were two enamored. You're right, A finishing second

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Speaker 1: and a four team tournament.

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Speaker 3: You know, in a way, I'm kind of this is

722
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Speaker 3: gonna sound weird, but Logan Cooley being hurt avoids him

723
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Speaker 3: from being snubbed. You would have blown a gasket when

724
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 3: Team USA snubbed Logan Cooley from this one.

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Speaker 2: I'm moorn' for Canaon anyway.

726
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Speaker 3: It makes it easier for you, I don't you know,

727
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: but it's.

728
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Speaker 1: Still I I want to see the best guys play

729
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, we we do all this bleeding. Like if

730
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Speaker 1: I had a dime for every time Pierre Lebron said

731
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Speaker 1: best on Best, best on Best, Best on Best, whether

732
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: it's on NHL Network, you know, on Twitter, wherever he

733
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Speaker 1: says it. Well, if it was Canadian money, I still

734
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: don't have that much. But but yeah, it's just it's

735
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Speaker 1: just I don't like this team, and I like, we

736
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Speaker 1: have a clip from Jackie later, you know, from the

737
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: Devil's Talk. He's invoking Herb Brooks in the Miracle on Ice.

738
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Speaker 1: Herb Brooks was ten.

739
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Speaker 2: Years ahead of the game. These guys are twenty years behind.

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Speaker 3: Are you kind of surprised that Adam Fox didn't make

741
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Speaker 3: it because Sully coaches the Rangers and they decided to

742
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Speaker 3: take Seth job.

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Speaker 1: From what I heard, every single person helping to pick

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Speaker 1: the team said.

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Speaker 3: No effing way to Adam Fox.

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00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and Sully got JT and Vince on

747
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: the team. And I'm glad they're on the team. Yup,

748
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Speaker 1: I'm sure glad they're on the team. Do they deserve

749
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm glad, yeah, exactly, But just it just

750
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Speaker 1: it just I mean, this is supposed to be Best

751
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Speaker 1: on Best and the us didn't pick their best Oi

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Speaker 1: moutomated for Finland. That's best on best right there. I

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Speaker 1: love only up the frickin Villa one O five to

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Speaker 1: nine The.

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Speaker 7: X partly cloudy skuys today, high temperatures in the upper twenties,

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Speaker 7: considerable cloudiness overnight tonight. It's the Mark MANX.

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Speaker 1: First hour of the show, brought to us by Sender Rova,

758
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Speaker 1: Sendrovits and Fisherman. They got your back, not your wallet, Tom.

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00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: What have we got for today's trifecta?

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Speaker 3: So Lamar Jackson is playing for the Ravens, I've got

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00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 3: a trifecta of reasons why the Steelers shouldn't maybe actually

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00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: feel a little bit of optimism with Lamar Jackson being

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Speaker 3: in the game.

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree, but go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Number three. Lamar hasn't rushed for over fifty yards since

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Speaker 3: Week one against Buffalo, when he went for seventy, and

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00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: he only has two rushing touchdowns on the season, the

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00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: last one, funny enough, coming in Week fourteen against the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: But I think that's going to be the biggest problem

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Speaker 3: for him in this back injury, playing through that is

771
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: his mobility, and that's his greatest strength. So If he

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Speaker 3: can't do that, that's a problem for the Ravens. Huntley

773
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: ran for sixty yards last week against the Packers number two.

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Speaker 3: Since Week ten, Lamar Jackson has just four touchdown passes

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00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: and he has five interceptions, so he's not getting it

776
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: done through the air either. In fact, he's sucking out

777
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 3: loud through that. I've always felt he's been an erratic passer.

778
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: I think his MVP years with the exception and not

779
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: the rule in regard to was throwing absolutely erratic this

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Speaker 3: year and especially since Week ten. But this is the

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Speaker 3: number one reason for optimism here. Derrick Henry averages eight

782
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 3: point one less carries per game when Lamar Jackson is

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Speaker 3: available in playing for the Ravens at quarterback, they can

784
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Speaker 3: out smart themselves and take almost ten carries away from

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Speaker 3: Derek Henry. That's big for the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: It does sound weird though, to say that Lamar Jackson

788
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Speaker 1: playing will be why they outsmart themselves, and I hasten

789
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: to add tom it's because he's dinged.

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Speaker 3: Up, that's it. Yeah, if he was fully healthy, I

791
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 3: think the Steelers will be screwed. And are we also

792
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: ignoring the possibility mark that he's healthier than we are

793
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: gonna assume leading into this game, and he just lights

794
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Speaker 3: it up and plays like a two time MVP.

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Speaker 2: I think possibility.

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00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they're screwed. I mean, they just have

797
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 3: no chance in that game.

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Speaker 1: The Trifecta sponsored by Danny's Petron Hogies Family owned and

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Speaker 1: operated since nineteen sixty. That's on Rude eighty eight and

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Speaker 1: Bethel Park. Tom, how's the crowded acressure going to be

801
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: on Sunday night? I'm gonna talk about that a lot

802
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: in a minute. But it's going to be cold and drunk.

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00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: Isn't that should be the weather fork, Yes, cold and drunk.

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00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 3: That should be a part of why the Steelers need

805
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: to get out to a good start too, right, is

806
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 3: to in a weird way, keep the home crowd behind

807
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 3: you and to kind of get them engaged into the game.

808
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: Because Ravens have all the momentum Steelers coming off that

809
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 3: loss against the Browns, It's gonna turn ugly at any

810
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 3: chance it gets. If the Ravens go down the field

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00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 3: and score first. If the Steelers offense goes three and

812
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 3: out a couple of times in a row, the booze

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00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: will come quickly. So you know you obviously, for football reasons,

814
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 3: you want to get out to a good start. Make

815
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 3: sure the Ravens have to play from behind, and you

816
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: can't play from behind. But to keep the home crowd

817
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: with you, I think it's just as important to come

818
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 3: out and you know, punch the Ravens in the mouth.

819
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 3: Don't be flat like you so often are. If you flat,

820
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: the crowd turns off.

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Speaker 1: I think this game will be decided in the first

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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, or if not decided, there will be a

823
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: lot of momentum one way or the other. And actually

824
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: that's settle for the Steelers. Just not letting Baltimore build

825
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: the momentum. If it's up for grabs at the end

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Speaker 1: of a quarter, I think that will speak well for

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. Part of the problem with the Atrosher crowd

828
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Speaker 1: is it's old. By the time the game starts at

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Speaker 1: eight twenty pm. And by the way, come watch the

830
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: game with me at the All Star Sports Bar and

831
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: Grill in South Point. By the time there's kickoff, the

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Speaker 1: crowd's going to be half drunk and half asleep. That

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00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: season ticket base it's ancient and he's freshened up.

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Speaker 3: That's why you have to worry a little bit about

835
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: selling tickets right for an eight to twenty kickoff. I

836
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 3: know it's do or die Ravens. How could you sell

837
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: the Ravens fans? But old timers, they don't care about

838
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: that mark. They just want to watch it in their home.

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Speaker 3: They want to be warm. They've done that a million times,

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00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: been to a thousand Steeler game.

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00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: But how many Ravens fans are going to come up?

842
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: Is there that much faith among Ravens fans? Maybe the

843
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: reprieve gave them adrenaline two in regard to, you know,

844
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: getting up here.

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Speaker 3: I think Baltimore feel's confidence in this game. I think

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00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: they think they're going to come in and flat and the.

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Speaker 2: Steelers, I I don't know.

848
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Speaker 3: I mean the fan base. I think they do.

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00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the fan base has been disappointed almost as

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00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: much this year as the Steelers fan base, in fact,

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00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: maybe a little more to date. But again, they have

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00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: the adrenaline rush of getting the repreach. I don't think

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00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: the adrenaline rush for the team and the fans of

854
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: getting a reprief out of nowhere when you were dead

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Speaker 1: and buried.

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00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 2: That can't be underestimating.

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00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: I know that the Steelers beat the Ravens in Baltimore

858
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 3: earlier this year, but I don't think the Ravens feel

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00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: kind of like that weird, you know, Curse of the

860
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 3: Steelers where they stop them are and we can't beat

861
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: the Steelers that streak they were on before last year.

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00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 3: I feel like they flushed that out of their system

863
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: when they beat the Steelers in the regular season and

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00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: then crush them in the wild card game. So I

865
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 3: think there's some confidence coming from Baltimore into this game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll make my official pick later unless I forget

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Speaker 1: who are you picking?

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Speaker 3: I kind of see it comes down to who's gonna

869
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Speaker 3: play this last I'm gonna pick the Ravens. They're gonna

870
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: win like twenty to thirteen. I want to pick the Steelers, though,

871
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 3: because I think the Ravens have a chance to blow it,

872
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: especially with Lamar playing in this game. They could lean

873
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,479
Speaker 3: on him too much.

874
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: Let's say Baltimore wins.

875
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 3: If they win, who's going to be the hero If

876
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: Baltimore wins, yep, oh, it's so obviously Derek Henry. He'll

877
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: rush for thirty plus carries in two hundred plus yards.

878
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 2: I agree.

879
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: Let me throw another name out there. That defense eight

880
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: what we thought it would be. But Kyle Hamilton is

881
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: a great safety, maybe the best safety in the league,

882
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 1: and he's not been talked about enough in advance this matchup.

883
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: He has not. It's all been focused on Derrick Henry.

884
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 3: But he is a fantastic player on the defensive side.

885
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: He could make the game changing play, no doubt, interception,

886
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: force fumble, something like that. He does everything. He's not

887
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 3: Paula maldu but he plays that style right Like he

888
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: shows up in the box, he drops back into coverage,

889
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 3: He's all over the field.

890
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: If the Steelers win, who's going to be the hero?

891
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: It's probably gonna have to be on the backs of

892
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: that defense, probably like modern day warrior, Jack Sawyer does

893
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: well against Derrick Henry and Rogers has to play a

894
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: good games either going to be Rogers by default, but

895
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 3: he's gonna throw too unless.

896
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: They lean on the running game Friarmouth than Johnathan.

897
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously, like coach Kyer said, uh, you see, I

898
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: think Rogers could be the hero, but but won't put

899
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: himself in a position to be that because he'd rather

900
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: be stubborn.

901
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 2: I think their best chance to.

902
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: Win is if Team MVP Kenneth Gainwell has a big game.

903
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: You gotta put him in the slot. He's got to

904
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 3: be a slot receiver in this game. It don't shy

905
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 3: away from it. I can't believe he got Team MB

906
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: and that's no knock on the season he's had. But boys,

907
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 3: that locker room dumb. It's a reflection on your not

908
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: very good team either. When you don't have that much

909
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: star power.

910
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: Who would your MVP of been.

911
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: I probably would have given it to Rodgers, even though

912
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 3: he totally crapped the bed against the Browns.

913
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: I could have made an argument for Jalen Ramsey for

914
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: holding a defense together that really fell apart via injury

915
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: and some guy's knocked.

916
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: Oh you know what else.

917
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: Joey Porter Junior as good cast per the Matt Williamson stats,

918
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: having not allowed a touchdown in fourteen hundred and forty

919
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: four snaps. And by the way, good marketing accidentally by

920
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: JPJ because fourteen forty four is easy to remember.

921
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: High Smith probably just didn't play enough games, right, missed

922
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 3: too many games in the middle portion.

923
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: He missed like three or four or four.

924
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 3: It's probably a little too much. But he's a force

925
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: every time he's out there. He's the best addresser right now.

926
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: I think it would go a long way if Kyle

927
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: Duggar could avoid like wandering around in circles underneath the

928
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: a pass like that was him right on that touchdown

929
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: the Cleveland got.

930
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: It's pretty bad when as a say, Fafty your biggest

931
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: weaknesses coverage, right, you know, you.

932
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: Know what's funny though, in referring to dugger he had

933
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: like that great game to start and we all went,

934
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, not over how good he was. He's pretty

935
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: much sucks since then, but we don't bring that up

936
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: as much, and certainly sucked on that play.

937
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 3: He's so bad in coverage, I mean just abysmal coverage.

938
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 3: He looked like an outfeater that lost the ball in

939
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 3: the lights on that play against the Browns.

940
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: That's I wish I thought of that.

941
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: All right, So Tom picks Baltimore because he hates the

942
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: city of Pittsburgh.

943
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Speaker 2: I'll be back with more stuff. Gong Show reference one

944
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Speaker 2: oh five nine. Listen