WEBVTT - The Morning Show w/ Thom Brennman -- 12/16/25

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<v Speaker 1>Yak.

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<v Speaker 2>We say good morning once more to Erica hurst Kowitz

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<v Speaker 2>from the Bloomberg Newsroom in New York City. Erica, good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>A win for car makers overseas, car Mas, Yes, Tom.

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<v Speaker 3>The European Union set to propose softening emission rules for

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<v Speaker 3>new cars, scrapping an effective ban on combustion engines, following

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<v Speaker 3>months of pressure from the automotive industry. The proposal will

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<v Speaker 3>allow carmakers to slow down the rollout of electric vehicles

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<v Speaker 3>in Europe and will lower the requirements that would have

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<v Speaker 3>halted sales of new gasoline and diesel fueled cars starting

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty thirty five.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Meanwhile, while most people would like to work

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit less, I think everybody could probably agree

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<v Speaker 2>on that, if agree on very little. The Nasdaq wants

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<v Speaker 2>more hours out there, Yeah, Tom.

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<v Speaker 3>The nasticks looking for regulatory approval to extend trading hours

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<v Speaker 3>on its stock venues to twenty three hours during the

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<v Speaker 3>work week.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>According to the filing, the firm is asking the SEC

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<v Speaker 3>for permission to add an additional trading session from nine

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<v Speaker 3>pm to four am Eastern. The Nasdaq expects to be

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<v Speaker 3>ready for extended trading early in the third quarter. Of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty six, pending regulatory approval and alignment with the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of the industry.

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<v Speaker 1>Alrighty at our futures this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Erica, We're gonna get those November jobs that November jobs

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<v Speaker 3>report before the bell. Tom Market futures right now, pointing

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<v Speaker 3>to a lower open down futures down thirty one points,

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<v Speaker 3>NASTAK futures down forty two, SMP futures down six from Bloomberg.

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<v Speaker 3>Erica Herschelwitz on news radio seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, it's a ten straight up on your Tuesday morning,

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<v Speaker 2>December the sixteenth year of our Lord, twenty and twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>And coming up here in a minute, Senator Ran Paul

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<v Speaker 2>from the Commonwealth of Kentucky. In fact, he is here

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<v Speaker 2>right now. Senator Paul, Good morning. I hope all's well

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<v Speaker 2>with you this holiday season, sir, good.

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<v Speaker 5>Good morning, Tom. Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely Hey, I want to get into look, before we

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<v Speaker 2>get into this healthcare bill that you have proposed, a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of questions that I think try to break it

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<v Speaker 2>down to one oh one level. The first question I have,

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<v Speaker 2>and there, of course, the government shut down primarily on

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrat side, centered around healthcare Obamacare, subsidies, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera, is the healthcare business, and you are a

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<v Speaker 2>medical doctor. As everyone probably knows, is this thing almost

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<v Speaker 2>too big to fail? Senator, that it's gotten so big

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<v Speaker 2>that we don't have the stomach to try and overhaul it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because one of my best friends is a doctor, goes

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<v Speaker 2>right down the street from me, and he tells me,

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<v Speaker 2>this whole thing is an absolute mess.

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<v Speaker 5>It's certainly broken, and I think we have to examine

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<v Speaker 5>why it's broken. So we have to examine what works

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<v Speaker 5>in our country, what doesn't work most everything. Capitalism keeps

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<v Speaker 5>prices down, Competition works. The two areas that competition and

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<v Speaker 5>capitalism don't seem to be working well in our health

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<v Speaker 5>care and education. But what they have in common is

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<v Speaker 5>that government subsidizes. And so when you subsidize something, basically

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<v Speaker 5>you increase the demand and you raise the price for that.

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<v Speaker 5>So as we've tried to give people money for help insurance,

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<v Speaker 5>the price just keeps rising higher and higher. The more

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<v Speaker 5>we give people, the more it rises. The second thing

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<v Speaker 5>we have to decide is as a society, or we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to take care of the poor among us who

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<v Speaker 5>can't get help insurance. Well, I think we've decided to

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<v Speaker 5>do that. But then the next question is is someone

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<v Speaker 5>making one hundred thousand dollars a year poor or is

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<v Speaker 5>someone making two hundred thousand dollars a year poor. So,

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<v Speaker 5>under the Obamacare subsidies, if you make one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 5>dollars a year, you get thirteen thousand dollars in subsidies. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>most people I know think making one hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 5>a year is not bad. Making two hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 5>a years is certainly not bad. And you still get

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<v Speaker 5>about two thousand dollars at two hundred thousand. So we

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<v Speaker 5>just have to assess whether that society is responsibility or not.

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<v Speaker 5>And that is one question. The second question is how

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<v Speaker 5>do you get prices down? Instead of just giving people

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<v Speaker 5>money which bids the prices up, how do you bid

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<v Speaker 5>the prices down? And I think what you have to

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<v Speaker 5>do is allow people to bid together as a collective

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<v Speaker 5>or as a co op. So my bill would allow

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<v Speaker 5>people to get together and buy their insurance, like to

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<v Speaker 5>a costco or a Sam's Club or an Amazon. So

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<v Speaker 5>let's say you had a couple million people that bought

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<v Speaker 5>their insurance on Amazon. What would happen is one person

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<v Speaker 5>at Amazon would negotiate a group contract for all a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of million people. They would then be the largest

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<v Speaker 5>business entity in the country negotiating for insurance. They would

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<v Speaker 5>have the most leverage and they would get better insurance

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<v Speaker 5>than any big corporation would get in America. And then

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<v Speaker 5>the hope is that that size would give them market

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<v Speaker 5>power visa the insurance company, because the insurance companies, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>are enormous. And if you're an accountant with two employees

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<v Speaker 5>and you go buy insurance, it's take you to leave it.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you've got it through Amazon and they had

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<v Speaker 5>one person or through cost Cover, Sam's Club, one person

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<v Speaker 5>negotiating from millions would have probably the ability to sit

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<v Speaker 5>down with the CEO of the company and really negotiate

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<v Speaker 5>good prices. All this takes legalized. It didn't cost any money.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why it's not real popular yet in Washington because

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<v Speaker 5>it doesn't cost anything. Ex have to legalize it and

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<v Speaker 5>let it happen.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, you have introduced what is called the health

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<v Speaker 2>marketplace and savings accounts for all act Now let's start

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<v Speaker 2>with the primary you know, backbone of this has to

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<v Speaker 2>do with HSA's health savings accounts. For people who are wondering,

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<v Speaker 2>you're speaking another language, what is a health savings account?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, only about ten percent of people have insurance are

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<v Speaker 5>eligible by the law. And so what you do is

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<v Speaker 5>you save your money and you don't have to pay

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<v Speaker 5>taxes on it. So if I put two thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 5>in my health savings account, that's subtracted for my income,

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<v Speaker 5>and I don't have to pay taxes on the two

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<v Speaker 5>thousand nor when I spend it. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I have three kids. We had to put braces on

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<v Speaker 5>all of them, but I got to pay for it

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<v Speaker 5>with pre tax money. If you don't have a health

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<v Speaker 5>savings account or any kind of medical savings account, you

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<v Speaker 5>end up paying with after tax money, which is, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>quite a burden. So my bill would say that would

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<v Speaker 5>change the law once again, and would say anybody who

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<v Speaker 5>wants to l savan's account and get it, they get

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<v Speaker 5>your own money in it. But the thing is is

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<v Speaker 5>that if you're a wise saveror then you save your money,

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<v Speaker 5>and particularly if you save your money and you don't

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<v Speaker 5>get sick. Let's say you're twenty years old and you

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<v Speaker 5>get a two thousand dollars deductible and you don't get sick, well,

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<v Speaker 5>you put two thousand dollars away. Then the next year

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<v Speaker 5>maybe you get a four thousand dollar deductible. You don't

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<v Speaker 5>get sick again, then maybe you get a six thousand.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you're a wise saver and you don't get sick,

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<v Speaker 5>which really the insurance companies know this, ninety eight percent

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<v Speaker 5>of people don't get sick, but they're all paying enormous

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<v Speaker 5>amounts for insurance, not to insuran against illness, they're prepaying

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<v Speaker 5>health care. And so if you actually went back to

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<v Speaker 5>having an insurance model like term life insurance when you're

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<v Speaker 5>twenty years old, for a five hundred bucks, you can

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<v Speaker 5>get five hundred thousand, you know. So the thing is

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<v Speaker 5>is what we need to do is make health insurance

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<v Speaker 5>like term life insurance, where you're bearing more of the

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<v Speaker 5>cost out of a savings account and then you get

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<v Speaker 5>a relatively low premium with a higher deductible, and you

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<v Speaker 5>try to get a higher deductible every year if you're healthy.

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<v Speaker 5>And the vast majority of people are healthy. So there

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<v Speaker 5>are ways we could fix this. But instead of going

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<v Speaker 5>towards capitalism, most people in Washington, including May of the

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<v Speaker 5>Republicans just want to give people money. I mean they

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<v Speaker 5>want to give people money for their HSA. They also

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<v Speaker 5>want to give money for these Trump children accounts. And

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<v Speaker 5>it's like, where's the money coming from. We're two trillion

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<v Speaker 5>dollars short, and even the Republicans are wanting to give

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<v Speaker 5>you money, just in a different way than the Democrats do.

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<v Speaker 1>What am I supposed to believe?

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<v Speaker 2>I jump on any website here, Senator Paul and I

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<v Speaker 2>read a report about Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House,

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<v Speaker 2>and about a Republican healthcare bill lowers Obamacare premiums by

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<v Speaker 2>twelve percent, saving thirty billion. You've got Bill Cassidy going

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<v Speaker 2>on new shows over the weekend saying a deal could

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<v Speaker 2>be made on Obamacare subsidies by the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got your proposal out there in many ways, walking

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<v Speaker 2>hand in hand with some of these things. At the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, what gets done, does anything get done?

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<v Speaker 2>And when does it get done?

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<v Speaker 5>So there are two alternatives. The Democrats gout their way.

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<v Speaker 5>You just get Obamacare, which means they keep giving you

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<v Speaker 5>more and more money, but the premiums will keep going up,

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<v Speaker 5>and the deductles go up, and really nothing gets better.

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<v Speaker 5>The main Republican plan, Cassidy and others. They want to

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<v Speaker 5>give you money also, but they want to give you

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<v Speaker 5>and it's somebody else's money where it's printed money, but

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<v Speaker 5>they want you to put that money in your health

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<v Speaker 5>savings account. But they're still willing to give you money.

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<v Speaker 5>And so I just am not for a new that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm for the marketplace. I'm trying to get capitalism do

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<v Speaker 5>or the same way the price of your TV comes

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<v Speaker 5>down looking MRIs sophisticated equipment, the wor computers and iPhones.

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<v Speaker 5>You know is why do the price of computer conzones

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<v Speaker 5>come down? Because there's a because capitalism works. So all

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<v Speaker 5>you have to do is allow capitalism work. You have

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<v Speaker 5>to believe in what made our country great, which is freedom,

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<v Speaker 5>voluntary exchange, and let it work. Instead, everybody's like, oh well,

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<v Speaker 5>le's maybe we've got insurance and so it'spensive. You know

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<v Speaker 5>that cars are expensive. Why don't we give people money

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<v Speaker 5>to buy cars. Let's have a a Trump Car account

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<v Speaker 5>and give everybody money in it to buy a car.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't have that money, and that feeds the problem.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you're two trillion in the hole, and I

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<v Speaker 5>give you money for your health savings account. Where did

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<v Speaker 5>it come from? The FED prints it up and so

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<v Speaker 5>once you get it, within about a year, it loses

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<v Speaker 5>its value. And this is this whole affordability thing everybody's

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<v Speaker 5>talking about. The reason things are less supportable is prices

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<v Speaker 5>have gone up twenty five percent in the last five years,

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<v Speaker 5>and if your wages didn't call up twenty five percent,

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<v Speaker 5>you're being squeezed. That's the affordability squeeze right now. But

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<v Speaker 5>it's due to promising people something for nothing. Hey, here's

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<v Speaker 5>a free car, here's free education, here's here's subsidized healthcare.

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<v Speaker 5>What sounds good on the service, but the end result

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<v Speaker 5>is rising prices, reduced purchasing power, and people feel that

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<v Speaker 5>they've been squeezed.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hit a couple of other topics before

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<v Speaker 2>we let you get out of here. I know your

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<v Speaker 2>time is tight. What are your thoughts about the direction

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<v Speaker 2>that the administration is going about vaccines at this point?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's been a lot of talk. Redfield came

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<v Speaker 2>out and talked about he thought that the Murner vaccine,

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<v Speaker 2>among others, were bad. There's talk about this measles vaccine,

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of talk about vaccines. Some people, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>want to run Robert F. Kennedy Junior out of town.

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<v Speaker 2>You have been extremely thoughtful I think about this topic,

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<v Speaker 2>although some may not agree with you. Where do you

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<v Speaker 2>think all of this stands? Do you like the direction

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<v Speaker 2>it's going in or not so much?

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<v Speaker 5>I think all healthcare should be individualized, So each individual

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<v Speaker 5>should make their decisions based on the risks and the

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<v Speaker 5>benefits to them. Can depend on your age. When COVID

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<v Speaker 5>came out, we found out that elderly people died and

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<v Speaker 5>young people didn't, and so really you should have different

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<v Speaker 5>policy based on them, and you should look at the

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<v Speaker 5>risks and benefit and so I'm not anti vaccine. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>for looking at each one individually. One of the extraordinary

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<v Speaker 5>things that came out recently and discussing the hepatitis B vaccine,

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<v Speaker 5>whether it should be forced on people on day one

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<v Speaker 5>of birth, whether people can wait, is they said they

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<v Speaker 5>were going to let the decision make and be individually based.

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<v Speaker 5>And you heard this uproar from the establishment. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>they're just saying they're restating what it always should have been,

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<v Speaker 5>individually based. But so, for example, the COVID vaccine. What

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<v Speaker 5>I would say is, this is in March of twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 5>when it was rip roaring and you were seeing people die,

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<v Speaker 5>primarily people over seventy five, but some over sixty five,

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<v Speaker 5>some overweight at fifty five, and so at that time,

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<v Speaker 5>I think the better part of valor it looked like

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<v Speaker 5>there's some evidence and probably still is true at that

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<v Speaker 5>period of time produced hospitals that should in death didn't

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<v Speaker 5>stop transmission. If you were older and at risk, probably

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<v Speaker 5>take it. But if you were fifteen years old and

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<v Speaker 5>there was also evidence that you could get an information

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<v Speaker 5>of the heart, there have been some deaths described. I

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<v Speaker 5>do believe they did happen. The risk didn't exceed the benefit.

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<v Speaker 5>The risk actually exceeded the benefits, and a fifteen year

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<v Speaker 5>old should have never been offered it. But this is

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<v Speaker 5>where Anthony Fuci and the government planners that are in healthcare,

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<v Speaker 5>they just want everybody to submit. Just do as you're told.

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<v Speaker 5>It's to be too complicated. We let you think about

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<v Speaker 5>whether it was good for you. Everybody should just be

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<v Speaker 5>forced to submit. And that's why vaccine policy has been

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<v Speaker 5>in our country. And I do think that Kennedy's done

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<v Speaker 5>a good job and trying to make it more individualized. Look,

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<v Speaker 5>the HEPTI vaccine, don't I'm not saying it's bad for

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<v Speaker 5>your kid at all, but I'm saying if you want

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<v Speaker 5>to wait a while, it might be up and ought

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<v Speaker 5>to be up to you, and that the only medical

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<v Speaker 5>reason to take it at birth is that the mom

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<v Speaker 5>has epatitis B. And if you don't have hepatitis by test,

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<v Speaker 5>all the moms in America. Now, when you've come to

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<v Speaker 5>the hospital they ask you, there's no reason to take

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<v Speaker 5>it now. They only moved the recommendation back in two months.

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<v Speaker 5>I would have moved it back even further because the

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<v Speaker 5>thing is, it wears off. If you vaccinate your kid

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<v Speaker 5>for repetize to be at perth, it wears off. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>there ten or twelve when they might be getting closer

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<v Speaker 5>to an age where sex, drugs and rock and roll

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<v Speaker 5>might influence their ability to get appetitis B. But there's

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<v Speaker 5>so much of this is wrong just because the government

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<v Speaker 5>mandates submission instead of thinking about individualizing the risk and benefit.

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<v Speaker 2>Senator Paul I can't thank you enough for your time.

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<v Speaker 2>As always, we love having you on the program. And

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<v Speaker 2>if we don't talk to you before Christmas. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you and your family have a merry Christmas.

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<v Speaker 5>Same to you guys, Merry Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thank you very much. A twenty two great

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<v Speaker 2>to have Senator Paul. He is a regular on the program.

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<v Speaker 2>We're fortunate to have him, and you know, I look,

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<v Speaker 2>you may not agree with all his policies, but the

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<v Speaker 2>guy is no nonsense. He thinks things through. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>go along with the crowd, and that's on both sides.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't go along with the crowd on the left,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't always go around with the crowd on the right.

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<v Speaker 2>He is an independent thinker and it's refreshing to have

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<v Speaker 2>in Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 1>To pay attention.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, eight forty one on the morning show. You're

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<v Speaker 2>on seven hundred WLW, the nation station, and she's known

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<v Speaker 2>coast to coast. You're the Cincinnati yourself, but she's known

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday to talk about what's good for you and me

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe ways to handle especially this holiday season. Julius Fording, good.

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<v Speaker 7>Morning, Good morning Tom.

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<v Speaker 2>The constant battle and it is their non stop family gatherings.

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<v Speaker 2>There is social pressure and it's all built around food.

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<v Speaker 2>More times than not right? How much should I eat?

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<v Speaker 2>Should I back off? I mean, it's non stop, even

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<v Speaker 2>to the point I was thinking about this after you

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<v Speaker 2>texted me yesterday. I noticed in our house. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>people will drop off something at your front door, right,

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of dessert for the holidays. And the next

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<v Speaker 2>thing I know, I never eat dessert at night. And

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<v Speaker 2>the next thing I know, I'm reaching in those bags

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<v Speaker 2>every time I turn around.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you help me say?

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<v Speaker 4>No? It's called food noise, and it's in our lives

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<v Speaker 4>every single day of our lives.

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<v Speaker 7>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's like, oh should I have that? And

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<v Speaker 4>you fit, well, how about if you you finish the

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<v Speaker 4>meal and you're already thinking about your next meal, or

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<v Speaker 4>you have this battle with well should I have that

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<v Speaker 4>or not?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, then I'll feel guilty. Well I'll be good tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 7>I promise.

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<v Speaker 4>But all that noise gets louder during the holidays because

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<v Speaker 4>there is way more food around.

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<v Speaker 7>Of course.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, just like you said, they drop it off

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<v Speaker 4>and you act as if this food you'll never see again. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>this only happens once a year. I better enjoy this now.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll get back on track in January. Can you hear

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<v Speaker 4>your mind just chattering about it. And then there's way

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<v Speaker 4>more like emotions during the holidays. You've got old memories,

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<v Speaker 4>you've got all the pressures of getting to parties, getting home,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're not sleeping as well because you have more

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<v Speaker 4>parties to go to and there's way more temptations.

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<v Speaker 7>You have to fight.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so it gets exhausting. So it's life gets louder.

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<v Speaker 7>Food, noise gets louder.

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<v Speaker 4>Doesn't mean you're just human, it's just the way the

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<v Speaker 4>brain works. And also you mentioned all the goodies, like,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not it's not like the bad food is hanging around.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not like someone delivered more carrots.

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<v Speaker 1>No kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>If they did, I would, I would, They would be

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<v Speaker 2>out of my life forever.

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<v Speaker 4>Right. They deliver those really good cookies that you only

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<v Speaker 4>get once a year from Buskin Bakery.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm with you. I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>They're nostalgic. It's emotional. So what you have to do

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<v Speaker 4>is the big question. And I think it's individual for everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>But since routine disappears, you're going to more parties, you're around.

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<v Speaker 7>More people, You've got the kids home.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got so many family dynamics going on, you've.

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<v Speaker 7>Got work, parties, You've got all that stuff going on.

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<v Speaker 4>I think some of the first things you have to

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<v Speaker 4>do is somehow get you know.

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<v Speaker 7>Go back to the basics.

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<v Speaker 4>Be sure you're sleep you know, getting good sleep. Be

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<v Speaker 4>sure you're exercising, and you know, those basic things. The

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<v Speaker 4>other thing you have to realize is do not get

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<v Speaker 4>into that now.

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<v Speaker 7>We're never mindset.

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<v Speaker 4>You know those cookies that are delivered and you think I'll.

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<v Speaker 7>Never get these again, Well you know what you will.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean back, you know in March, You'll still be

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<v Speaker 7>able to eat cookies. It'll be okay. You know, It's

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<v Speaker 7>not like I better hurry up and eat them now.

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<v Speaker 7>The other thing, too, is when you're full, you're full.

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<v Speaker 7>If you can sort of.

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<v Speaker 4>Get to a point where it's not like you make rules,

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<v Speaker 4>but you say, listen, I'm gonna just try to maintain

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<v Speaker 4>as much routine as normal.

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<v Speaker 7>So let's say if you.

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<v Speaker 4>Go for that big celebratory.

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<v Speaker 7>Dinner out, you know, once a year, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Go with your family and you're full, and here comes

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<v Speaker 4>the dessert tray. Well, is there a way you could

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<v Speaker 4>skip the dessert or package it to go. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not like it's not a once in a lifetime thing.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you could do that, just don't overdo and

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<v Speaker 4>quit with the rules. It's sort of like, well, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>make it up tomorrow, and you have all these rules. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>the tighter the rules, the more you push back your brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that, Go ahead, because I got one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>I read about that I found interesting. But go ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>finish your thought, please forgive me.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the other great thing about food and the bad

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<v Speaker 4>thing about food is food is comfort. Food is control,

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<v Speaker 4>food is distraction, food is nostalgia all at once, and

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<v Speaker 4>so the brain fixates on that.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm wondering, you know, if you can sort of discern

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<v Speaker 4>like it's okay to eat, you know, if you don't

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<v Speaker 4>have good food, bad food, evil food.

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<v Speaker 7>You're not a bad person because you eat food.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just trying to figure out some way to have

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<v Speaker 4>peace with it.

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<v Speaker 7>But in knowing you're human.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, one thing I read that I found a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of things that were very interesting when I knew

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<v Speaker 2>this is what we were talking about today. And one

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<v Speaker 2>of the kind of tricks right that you could pull

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<v Speaker 2>off is before you go somewhere where you know there's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a ton of food and maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of food that's not very good for you. And

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<v Speaker 2>that pressure you're talking about, right that others put on you,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you put on yourself, is before you go, load

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<v Speaker 2>up on a little a little bit of fiber rich

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<v Speaker 2>a snack before you go, because that helps you feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you're fuller, right, which might reduce a temptation then

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<v Speaker 2>to overeat once you arrive. I thought that was interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the other thing is for people who are

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<v Speaker 2>really concerned about calories and maybe weight gain over the holidays,

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that you cannot forget you talk about empty calories,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of soda and a lot of alcohol.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh and alcohol is bad as you make poor choices.

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<v Speaker 4>Whether you're gonna finally let Uncle Henry know how you

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<v Speaker 4>feel about it, You know you're gonna go straight to

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<v Speaker 4>the dessert table where the buffets are looking beautiful. So

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely called it out on that Tom. And the other

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<v Speaker 4>thing too is do you have to go to all

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<v Speaker 4>the parties? I mean the temptations? Are there some parties

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<v Speaker 4>you don't even want to go to first place?

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<v Speaker 1>Most of them you're bored.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're bored at a party, what's the second best

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<v Speaker 4>thing to do?

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<v Speaker 7>Drink alcohol? Any food.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, So what about just not going to the parties.

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<v Speaker 4>It's okay, no, but you know you're not going to

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<v Speaker 4>miss out on anything. But you accept all those temptations

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<v Speaker 4>when your willpower is a little bit weaker around the

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<v Speaker 4>holidays because you're darn tired. So that that's another really

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<v Speaker 4>good trick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know that it is. But oftentimes you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at nine, Julie, you know, whether it's your significant other,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, who really wants to go. You may not

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<v Speaker 2>want to go, but they really want to go. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's something work related, not necessarily like your office party,

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<v Speaker 2>your company party, but it's somebody at work that nice

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<v Speaker 2>enough to invite you, So you feel like you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of have to go. So there is that pressure out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm with you a lot of the times you

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<v Speaker 2>get invited to these things and you know, in your

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<v Speaker 2>heart of heart you really don't want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I always.

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<v Speaker 2>Say to Polly all the time, Look, if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to go, go ahead and have a great time. If

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<v Speaker 2>you really want me to go with you, if it's

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<v Speaker 2>that important, I'll go.

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<v Speaker 7>See that's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 4>The other thing is to arrive late, leave early, and

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<v Speaker 4>whether you tell people you have other obligations.

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<v Speaker 7>Or not, it's up to you, and they don't really care.

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<v Speaker 4>They love to see you too, but don't stay at

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<v Speaker 4>the party too long.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the eating is where it comes in.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have, like I said, I've already found that

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<v Speaker 2>this holiday season that every time I turn around, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>reaching for something and then I jump on the scale

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<v Speaker 2>last night, which I know you tell me not to

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<v Speaker 2>do on a regular basis, or don't get too consumed

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<v Speaker 2>by it, but I think you know, all of us

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<v Speaker 2>have a little bit of vanity in us. And one

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<v Speaker 2>other thing that I thought was interesting about food during

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<v Speaker 2>the holidays. If you're going to somebody's house and you

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<v Speaker 2>need to bring something, two things you can do. One,

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<v Speaker 2>you could bring something that's a little bit healthier, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like you were talking about somebody dropping off carrots.

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<v Speaker 1>That might be an.

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<v Speaker 2>Extreme, but something a little bit more healthy if you're

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<v Speaker 2>taking it somewhere. And then if you are hosting, to

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<v Speaker 2>try to make the portions for others a little bit less,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, create a lot of fun around your parties, like

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<v Speaker 4>somebody was doing a scavenger hunt the other day, and

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<v Speaker 4>dancing and creating fun around them, so everything.

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<v Speaker 7>Isn't centered around food.

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<v Speaker 4>Same with the family, you know, creating like maybe you

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 4>have traditional games you play, or you'll go for a

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<v Speaker 4>walk before you eat, or remember Christmas Caroline and all that,

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:20.639
<v Speaker 4>then everything wasn't centered around food.

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<v Speaker 7>If we can just have you know, food is food.

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<v Speaker 4>We had talked so much to it and to sort

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<v Speaker 4>of find other family traditions where it's centered around fun

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<v Speaker 4>and food, and I think that helps a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that is a fantastic, fantastic idea. So you say, dancing,

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<v Speaker 2>Are you dancing a lot of holiday parties?

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<v Speaker 7>Dancing in my kitchen?

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I do?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I didn't ask you if you were. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you dancing in someone else's kitchen when you're going over

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<v Speaker 2>these holiday parties?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I went online and I tapped in how how

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<v Speaker 4>to dance for old people?

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<v Speaker 7>That's me like, and they gave me a few versions.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm working on my dance.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, girl? And are you a big Christmas Carol? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you like going out Christmas Caroling?

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<v Speaker 7>Love Christmas Carol?

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<v Speaker 5>A love it? Love it?

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:15.680
<v Speaker 7>Love it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Yeah, it's fun, it's creative. You know, you get

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<v Speaker 4>you really have good conversations with people on the walks.

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<v Speaker 7>It kind of combines everything.

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<v Speaker 4>You're with people you like, the conversations are better, you're

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 4>walking together, you're getting good exercise. And the look on

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 4>people's faces when you know you're singing or they're singing

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<v Speaker 4>outside your door. I think it's a neat tradition to have.

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<v Speaker 4>Another great tradition is when you all piled in the

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<v Speaker 4>car and went looked at Christmas lights to walk around

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 4>the neighborhood and looked at all the lights. We always

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 4>did that growing up. So and here we go again.

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<v Speaker 4>We're trying to get the food noise out of our brain.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not worried about our next meal or whether or

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<v Speaker 4>not we're going to get that last Christmas cookie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, lord knows, I've been getting that last Christmas cookie

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<v Speaker 2>since about the eighth of the month.

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks for reminding me.

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<v Speaker 4>And the other thing we talked about briefly, Tom, is

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<v Speaker 4>this mindset.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll fix it in January.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, January is just another month of the year

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<v Speaker 4>and sort of get out of that mindset because your

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 4>whole life isn't going to change in January. So that's,

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 4>you know, how you really have to think about No,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just going to maintain as much of my good

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<v Speaker 4>routines as I can and not go on that all

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<v Speaker 4>or nothing yes, like, oh I've been bad today, I'm

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:51.679
<v Speaker 4>just gonna keep being bad. There's no such thing. So

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 4>if we can get out of that mindset in January,

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 4>then January won't be such a hardship. And that's the

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<v Speaker 4>other sweet we try to give ourselves, but it really

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>Jewels. Have a great rest of your day. Are we

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:08.679
<v Speaker 2>going to get together next Tuesday? Or do you have

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<v Speaker 2>holiday plans for next Tuesday?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, we're getting together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes we do, Yes, we do. Okay, have a great

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