Speaker 1: Yak.
Speaker 2: We say good morning once more to Erica hurst Kowitz
Speaker 2: from the Bloomberg Newsroom in New York City. Erica, good morning.
Speaker 2: A win for car makers overseas, car Mas, Yes, Tom.
Speaker 3: The European Union set to propose softening emission rules for
Speaker 3: new cars, scrapping an effective ban on combustion engines, following
Speaker 3: months of pressure from the automotive industry. The proposal will
Speaker 3: allow carmakers to slow down the rollout of electric vehicles
Speaker 3: in Europe and will lower the requirements that would have
Speaker 3: halted sales of new gasoline and diesel fueled cars starting
Speaker 3: in twenty thirty five.
Speaker 2: All right, Meanwhile, while most people would like to work
Speaker 2: a little bit less, I think everybody could probably agree
Speaker 2: on that, if agree on very little. The Nasdaq wants
Speaker 2: more hours out there, Yeah, Tom.
Speaker 3: The nasticks looking for regulatory approval to extend trading hours
Speaker 3: on its stock venues to twenty three hours during the
Speaker 3: work week.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: According to the filing, the firm is asking the SEC
Speaker 3: for permission to add an additional trading session from nine
Speaker 3: pm to four am Eastern. The Nasdaq expects to be
Speaker 3: ready for extended trading early in the third quarter. Of
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, pending regulatory approval and alignment with the
Speaker 3: rest of the industry.
Speaker 1: Alrighty at our futures this morning.
Speaker 3: Erica, We're gonna get those November jobs that November jobs
Speaker 3: report before the bell. Tom Market futures right now, pointing
Speaker 3: to a lower open down futures down thirty one points,
Speaker 3: NASTAK futures down forty two, SMP futures down six from Bloomberg.
Speaker 3: Erica Herschelwitz on news radio seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: All right, it's a ten straight up on your Tuesday morning,
Speaker 2: December the sixteenth year of our Lord, twenty and twenty five.
Speaker 2: And coming up here in a minute, Senator Ran Paul
Speaker 2: from the Commonwealth of Kentucky. In fact, he is here
Speaker 2: right now. Senator Paul, Good morning. I hope all's well
Speaker 2: with you this holiday season, sir, good.
Speaker 5: Good morning, Tom. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Absolutely Hey, I want to get into look, before we
Speaker 2: get into this healthcare bill that you have proposed, a
Speaker 2: couple of questions that I think try to break it
Speaker 2: down to one oh one level. The first question I have,
Speaker 2: and there, of course, the government shut down primarily on
Speaker 2: the Democrat side, centered around healthcare Obamacare, subsidies, et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera, is the healthcare business, and you are a
Speaker 2: medical doctor. As everyone probably knows, is this thing almost
Speaker 2: too big to fail? Senator, that it's gotten so big
Speaker 2: that we don't have the stomach to try and overhaul it.
Speaker 2: Because one of my best friends is a doctor, goes
Speaker 2: right down the street from me, and he tells me,
Speaker 2: this whole thing is an absolute mess.
Speaker 5: It's certainly broken, and I think we have to examine
Speaker 5: why it's broken. So we have to examine what works
Speaker 5: in our country, what doesn't work most everything. Capitalism keeps
Speaker 5: prices down, Competition works. The two areas that competition and
Speaker 5: capitalism don't seem to be working well in our health
Speaker 5: care and education. But what they have in common is
Speaker 5: that government subsidizes. And so when you subsidize something, basically
Speaker 5: you increase the demand and you raise the price for that.
Speaker 5: So as we've tried to give people money for help insurance,
Speaker 5: the price just keeps rising higher and higher. The more
Speaker 5: we give people, the more it rises. The second thing
Speaker 5: we have to decide is as a society, or we're
Speaker 5: going to take care of the poor among us who
Speaker 5: can't get help insurance. Well, I think we've decided to
Speaker 5: do that. But then the next question is is someone
Speaker 5: making one hundred thousand dollars a year poor or is
Speaker 5: someone making two hundred thousand dollars a year poor. So,
Speaker 5: under the Obamacare subsidies, if you make one hundred thousand
Speaker 5: dollars a year, you get thirteen thousand dollars in subsidies. Well,
Speaker 5: most people I know think making one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 5: a year is not bad. Making two hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 5: a years is certainly not bad. And you still get
Speaker 5: about two thousand dollars at two hundred thousand. So we
Speaker 5: just have to assess whether that society is responsibility or not.
Speaker 5: And that is one question. The second question is how
Speaker 5: do you get prices down? Instead of just giving people
Speaker 5: money which bids the prices up, how do you bid
Speaker 5: the prices down? And I think what you have to
Speaker 5: do is allow people to bid together as a collective
Speaker 5: or as a co op. So my bill would allow
Speaker 5: people to get together and buy their insurance, like to
Speaker 5: a costco or a Sam's Club or an Amazon. So
Speaker 5: let's say you had a couple million people that bought
Speaker 5: their insurance on Amazon. What would happen is one person
Speaker 5: at Amazon would negotiate a group contract for all a
Speaker 5: couple of million people. They would then be the largest
Speaker 5: business entity in the country negotiating for insurance. They would
Speaker 5: have the most leverage and they would get better insurance
Speaker 5: than any big corporation would get in America. And then
Speaker 5: the hope is that that size would give them market
Speaker 5: power visa the insurance company, because the insurance companies, you know,
Speaker 5: are enormous. And if you're an accountant with two employees
Speaker 5: and you go buy insurance, it's take you to leave it.
Speaker 5: But if you've got it through Amazon and they had
Speaker 5: one person or through cost Cover, Sam's Club, one person
Speaker 5: negotiating from millions would have probably the ability to sit
Speaker 5: down with the CEO of the company and really negotiate
Speaker 5: good prices. All this takes legalized. It didn't cost any money.
Speaker 5: That's why it's not real popular yet in Washington because
Speaker 5: it doesn't cost anything. Ex have to legalize it and
Speaker 5: let it happen.
Speaker 2: All right, you have introduced what is called the health
Speaker 2: marketplace and savings accounts for all act Now let's start
Speaker 2: with the primary you know, backbone of this has to
Speaker 2: do with HSA's health savings accounts. For people who are wondering,
Speaker 2: you're speaking another language, what is a health savings account?
Speaker 5: Well, only about ten percent of people have insurance are
Speaker 5: eligible by the law. And so what you do is
Speaker 5: you save your money and you don't have to pay
Speaker 5: taxes on it. So if I put two thousand dollars
Speaker 5: in my health savings account, that's subtracted for my income,
Speaker 5: and I don't have to pay taxes on the two
Speaker 5: thousand nor when I spend it. And so you know,
Speaker 5: I have three kids. We had to put braces on
Speaker 5: all of them, but I got to pay for it
Speaker 5: with pre tax money. If you don't have a health
Speaker 5: savings account or any kind of medical savings account, you
Speaker 5: end up paying with after tax money, which is, you know,
Speaker 5: quite a burden. So my bill would say that would
Speaker 5: change the law once again, and would say anybody who
Speaker 5: wants to l savan's account and get it, they get
Speaker 5: your own money in it. But the thing is is
Speaker 5: that if you're a wise saveror then you save your money,
Speaker 5: and particularly if you save your money and you don't
Speaker 5: get sick. Let's say you're twenty years old and you
Speaker 5: get a two thousand dollars deductible and you don't get sick, well,
Speaker 5: you put two thousand dollars away. Then the next year
Speaker 5: maybe you get a four thousand dollar deductible. You don't
Speaker 5: get sick again, then maybe you get a six thousand.
Speaker 5: So if you're a wise saver and you don't get sick,
Speaker 5: which really the insurance companies know this, ninety eight percent
Speaker 5: of people don't get sick, but they're all paying enormous
Speaker 5: amounts for insurance, not to insuran against illness, they're prepaying
Speaker 5: health care. And so if you actually went back to
Speaker 5: having an insurance model like term life insurance when you're
Speaker 5: twenty years old, for a five hundred bucks, you can
Speaker 5: get five hundred thousand, you know. So the thing is
Speaker 5: is what we need to do is make health insurance
Speaker 5: like term life insurance, where you're bearing more of the
Speaker 5: cost out of a savings account and then you get
Speaker 5: a relatively low premium with a higher deductible, and you
Speaker 5: try to get a higher deductible every year if you're healthy.
Speaker 5: And the vast majority of people are healthy. So there
Speaker 5: are ways we could fix this. But instead of going
Speaker 5: towards capitalism, most people in Washington, including May of the
Speaker 5: Republicans just want to give people money. I mean they
Speaker 5: want to give people money for their HSA. They also
Speaker 5: want to give money for these Trump children accounts. And
Speaker 5: it's like, where's the money coming from. We're two trillion
Speaker 5: dollars short, and even the Republicans are wanting to give
Speaker 5: you money, just in a different way than the Democrats do.
Speaker 1: What am I supposed to believe?
Speaker 2: I jump on any website here, Senator Paul and I
Speaker 2: read a report about Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House,
Speaker 2: and about a Republican healthcare bill lowers Obamacare premiums by
Speaker 2: twelve percent, saving thirty billion. You've got Bill Cassidy going
Speaker 2: on new shows over the weekend saying a deal could
Speaker 2: be made on Obamacare subsidies by the end of the year.
Speaker 2: You've got your proposal out there in many ways, walking
Speaker 2: hand in hand with some of these things. At the
Speaker 2: end of the day, what gets done, does anything get done?
Speaker 2: And when does it get done?
Speaker 5: So there are two alternatives. The Democrats gout their way.
Speaker 5: You just get Obamacare, which means they keep giving you
Speaker 5: more and more money, but the premiums will keep going up,
Speaker 5: and the deductles go up, and really nothing gets better.
Speaker 5: The main Republican plan, Cassidy and others. They want to
Speaker 5: give you money also, but they want to give you
Speaker 5: and it's somebody else's money where it's printed money, but
Speaker 5: they want you to put that money in your health
Speaker 5: savings account. But they're still willing to give you money.
Speaker 5: And so I just am not for a new that.
Speaker 5: I'm for the marketplace. I'm trying to get capitalism do
Speaker 5: or the same way the price of your TV comes
Speaker 5: down looking MRIs sophisticated equipment, the wor computers and iPhones.
Speaker 5: You know is why do the price of computer conzones
Speaker 5: come down? Because there's a because capitalism works. So all
Speaker 5: you have to do is allow capitalism work. You have
Speaker 5: to believe in what made our country great, which is freedom,
Speaker 5: voluntary exchange, and let it work. Instead, everybody's like, oh well,
Speaker 5: le's maybe we've got insurance and so it'spensive. You know
Speaker 5: that cars are expensive. Why don't we give people money
Speaker 5: to buy cars. Let's have a a Trump Car account
Speaker 5: and give everybody money in it to buy a car.
Speaker 5: We don't have that money, and that feeds the problem.
Speaker 5: So if you're two trillion in the hole, and I
Speaker 5: give you money for your health savings account. Where did
Speaker 5: it come from? The FED prints it up and so
Speaker 5: once you get it, within about a year, it loses
Speaker 5: its value. And this is this whole affordability thing everybody's
Speaker 5: talking about. The reason things are less supportable is prices
Speaker 5: have gone up twenty five percent in the last five years,
Speaker 5: and if your wages didn't call up twenty five percent,
Speaker 5: you're being squeezed. That's the affordability squeeze right now. But
Speaker 5: it's due to promising people something for nothing. Hey, here's
Speaker 5: a free car, here's free education, here's here's subsidized healthcare.
Speaker 5: What sounds good on the service, but the end result
Speaker 5: is rising prices, reduced purchasing power, and people feel that
Speaker 5: they've been squeezed.
Speaker 2: I want to hit a couple of other topics before
Speaker 2: we let you get out of here. I know your
Speaker 2: time is tight. What are your thoughts about the direction
Speaker 2: that the administration is going about vaccines at this point?
Speaker 2: I mean, there's been a lot of talk. Redfield came
Speaker 2: out and talked about he thought that the Murner vaccine,
Speaker 2: among others, were bad. There's talk about this measles vaccine,
Speaker 2: all kinds of talk about vaccines. Some people, of course,
Speaker 2: want to run Robert F. Kennedy Junior out of town.
Speaker 2: You have been extremely thoughtful I think about this topic,
Speaker 2: although some may not agree with you. Where do you
Speaker 2: think all of this stands? Do you like the direction
Speaker 2: it's going in or not so much?
Speaker 5: I think all healthcare should be individualized, So each individual
Speaker 5: should make their decisions based on the risks and the
Speaker 5: benefits to them. Can depend on your age. When COVID
Speaker 5: came out, we found out that elderly people died and
Speaker 5: young people didn't, and so really you should have different
Speaker 5: policy based on them, and you should look at the
Speaker 5: risks and benefit and so I'm not anti vaccine. I'm
Speaker 5: for looking at each one individually. One of the extraordinary
Speaker 5: things that came out recently and discussing the hepatitis B vaccine,
Speaker 5: whether it should be forced on people on day one
Speaker 5: of birth, whether people can wait, is they said they
Speaker 5: were going to let the decision make and be individually based.
Speaker 5: And you heard this uproar from the establishment. I'm like,
Speaker 5: they're just saying they're restating what it always should have been,
Speaker 5: individually based. But so, for example, the COVID vaccine. What
Speaker 5: I would say is, this is in March of twenty twenty,
Speaker 5: when it was rip roaring and you were seeing people die,
Speaker 5: primarily people over seventy five, but some over sixty five,
Speaker 5: some overweight at fifty five, and so at that time,
Speaker 5: I think the better part of valor it looked like
Speaker 5: there's some evidence and probably still is true at that
Speaker 5: period of time produced hospitals that should in death didn't
Speaker 5: stop transmission. If you were older and at risk, probably
Speaker 5: take it. But if you were fifteen years old and
Speaker 5: there was also evidence that you could get an information
Speaker 5: of the heart, there have been some deaths described. I
Speaker 5: do believe they did happen. The risk didn't exceed the benefit.
Speaker 5: The risk actually exceeded the benefits, and a fifteen year
Speaker 5: old should have never been offered it. But this is
Speaker 5: where Anthony Fuci and the government planners that are in healthcare,
Speaker 5: they just want everybody to submit. Just do as you're told.
Speaker 5: It's to be too complicated. We let you think about
Speaker 5: whether it was good for you. Everybody should just be
Speaker 5: forced to submit. And that's why vaccine policy has been
Speaker 5: in our country. And I do think that Kennedy's done
Speaker 5: a good job and trying to make it more individualized. Look,
Speaker 5: the HEPTI vaccine, don't I'm not saying it's bad for
Speaker 5: your kid at all, but I'm saying if you want
Speaker 5: to wait a while, it might be up and ought
Speaker 5: to be up to you, and that the only medical
Speaker 5: reason to take it at birth is that the mom
Speaker 5: has epatitis B. And if you don't have hepatitis by test,
Speaker 5: all the moms in America. Now, when you've come to
Speaker 5: the hospital they ask you, there's no reason to take
Speaker 5: it now. They only moved the recommendation back in two months.
Speaker 5: I would have moved it back even further because the
Speaker 5: thing is, it wears off. If you vaccinate your kid
Speaker 5: for repetize to be at perth, it wears off. I'm
Speaker 5: there ten or twelve when they might be getting closer
Speaker 5: to an age where sex, drugs and rock and roll
Speaker 5: might influence their ability to get appetitis B. But there's
Speaker 5: so much of this is wrong just because the government
Speaker 5: mandates submission instead of thinking about individualizing the risk and benefit.
Speaker 2: Senator Paul I can't thank you enough for your time.
Speaker 2: As always, we love having you on the program. And
Speaker 2: if we don't talk to you before Christmas. I hope
Speaker 2: you and your family have a merry Christmas.
Speaker 5: Same to you guys, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much. A twenty two great
Speaker 2: to have Senator Paul. He is a regular on the program.
Speaker 2: We're fortunate to have him, and you know, I look,
Speaker 2: you may not agree with all his policies, but the
Speaker 2: guy is no nonsense. He thinks things through. He doesn't
Speaker 2: go along with the crowd, and that's on both sides.
Speaker 2: He doesn't go along with the crowd on the left,
Speaker 2: he doesn't always go around with the crowd on the right.
Speaker 2: He is an independent thinker and it's refreshing to have
Speaker 2: in Washington, DC.
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Speaker 2: Tuesday to talk about what's good for you and me
Speaker 2: and maybe ways to handle especially this holiday season. Julius Fording, good.
Speaker 7: Morning, Good morning Tom.
Speaker 2: The constant battle and it is their non stop family gatherings.
Speaker 2: There is social pressure and it's all built around food.
Speaker 2: More times than not right? How much should I eat?
Speaker 2: Should I back off? I mean, it's non stop, even
Speaker 2: to the point I was thinking about this after you
Speaker 2: texted me yesterday. I noticed in our house. You know,
Speaker 2: people will drop off something at your front door, right,
Speaker 2: some kind of dessert for the holidays. And the next
Speaker 2: thing I know, I never eat dessert at night. And
Speaker 2: the next thing I know, I'm reaching in those bags
Speaker 2: every time I turn around.
Speaker 1: Can you help me say?
Speaker 4: No? It's called food noise, and it's in our lives
Speaker 4: every single day of our lives.
Speaker 7: Anyway.
Speaker 4: You know, it's like, oh should I have that? And
Speaker 4: you fit, well, how about if you you finish the
Speaker 4: meal and you're already thinking about your next meal, or
Speaker 4: you have this battle with well should I have that
Speaker 4: or not?
Speaker 7: Well, then I'll feel guilty. Well I'll be good tomorrow,
Speaker 7: I promise.
Speaker 4: But all that noise gets louder during the holidays because
Speaker 4: there is way more food around.
Speaker 7: Of course.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just like you said, they drop it off
Speaker 4: and you act as if this food you'll never see again. Oh,
Speaker 4: this only happens once a year. I better enjoy this now.
Speaker 4: I'll get back on track in January. Can you hear
Speaker 4: your mind just chattering about it. And then there's way
Speaker 4: more like emotions during the holidays. You've got old memories,
Speaker 4: you've got all the pressures of getting to parties, getting home,
Speaker 4: and you're not sleeping as well because you have more
Speaker 4: parties to go to and there's way more temptations.
Speaker 7: You have to fight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it gets exhausting. So it's life gets louder.
Speaker 7: Food, noise gets louder.
Speaker 4: Doesn't mean you're just human, it's just the way the
Speaker 4: brain works. And also you mentioned all the goodies, like,
Speaker 4: it's not it's not like the bad food is hanging around.
Speaker 4: It's not like someone delivered more carrots.
Speaker 1: No kidding.
Speaker 2: If they did, I would, I would, They would be
Speaker 2: out of my life forever.
Speaker 4: Right. They deliver those really good cookies that you only
Speaker 4: get once a year from Buskin Bakery.
Speaker 7: I'm with you. I love it.
Speaker 4: They're nostalgic. It's emotional. So what you have to do
Speaker 4: is the big question. And I think it's individual for everyone.
Speaker 4: But since routine disappears, you're going to more parties, you're around.
Speaker 7: More people, You've got the kids home.
Speaker 4: You've got so many family dynamics going on, you've.
Speaker 7: Got work, parties, You've got all that stuff going on.
Speaker 4: I think some of the first things you have to
Speaker 4: do is somehow get you know.
Speaker 7: Go back to the basics.
Speaker 4: Be sure you're sleep you know, getting good sleep. Be
Speaker 4: sure you're exercising, and you know, those basic things. The
Speaker 4: other thing you have to realize is do not get
Speaker 4: into that now.
Speaker 7: We're never mindset.
Speaker 4: You know those cookies that are delivered and you think I'll.
Speaker 7: Never get these again, Well you know what you will.
Speaker 7: I mean back, you know in March, You'll still be
Speaker 7: able to eat cookies. It'll be okay. You know, It's
Speaker 7: not like I better hurry up and eat them now.
Speaker 7: The other thing, too, is when you're full, you're full.
Speaker 7: If you can sort of.
Speaker 4: Get to a point where it's not like you make rules,
Speaker 4: but you say, listen, I'm gonna just try to maintain
Speaker 4: as much routine as normal.
Speaker 7: So let's say if you.
Speaker 4: Go for that big celebratory.
Speaker 7: Dinner out, you know, once a year, you.
Speaker 4: Go with your family and you're full, and here comes
Speaker 4: the dessert tray. Well, is there a way you could
Speaker 4: skip the dessert or package it to go. You know,
Speaker 4: it's not like it's not a once in a lifetime thing.
Speaker 4: But if you could do that, just don't overdo and
Speaker 4: quit with the rules. It's sort of like, well, I'll
Speaker 4: make it up tomorrow, and you have all these rules. Well,
Speaker 4: the tighter the rules, the more you push back your brain.
Speaker 2: Does that, Go ahead, because I got one thing that
Speaker 2: I read about that I found interesting. But go ahead,
Speaker 2: finish your thought, please forgive me.
Speaker 4: Well, the other great thing about food and the bad
Speaker 4: thing about food is food is comfort. Food is control,
Speaker 4: food is distraction, food is nostalgia all at once, and
Speaker 4: so the brain fixates on that.
Speaker 7: So you know, it's.
Speaker 4: I'm wondering, you know, if you can sort of discern
Speaker 4: like it's okay to eat, you know, if you don't
Speaker 4: have good food, bad food, evil food.
Speaker 7: You're not a bad person because you eat food.
Speaker 4: It's just trying to figure out some way to have
Speaker 4: peace with it.
Speaker 7: But in knowing you're human.
Speaker 2: You know, one thing I read that I found a
Speaker 2: couple of things that were very interesting when I knew
Speaker 2: this is what we were talking about today. And one
Speaker 2: of the kind of tricks right that you could pull
Speaker 2: off is before you go somewhere where you know there's
Speaker 2: going to be a ton of food and maybe a
Speaker 2: lot of food that's not very good for you. And
Speaker 2: that pressure you're talking about, right that others put on you,
Speaker 2: maybe you put on yourself, is before you go, load
Speaker 2: up on a little a little bit of fiber rich
Speaker 2: a snack before you go, because that helps you feel
Speaker 2: like you're fuller, right, which might reduce a temptation then
Speaker 2: to overeat once you arrive. I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 2: And then the other thing is for people who are
Speaker 2: really concerned about calories and maybe weight gain over the holidays,
Speaker 2: one thing that you cannot forget you talk about empty calories,
Speaker 2: a lot of soda and a lot of alcohol.
Speaker 4: Oh and alcohol is bad as you make poor choices.
Speaker 4: Whether you're gonna finally let Uncle Henry know how you
Speaker 4: feel about it, You know you're gonna go straight to
Speaker 4: the dessert table where the buffets are looking beautiful. So
Speaker 4: absolutely called it out on that Tom. And the other
Speaker 4: thing too is do you have to go to all
Speaker 4: the parties? I mean the temptations? Are there some parties
Speaker 4: you don't even want to go to first place?
Speaker 1: Most of them you're bored.
Speaker 4: If you're bored at a party, what's the second best
Speaker 4: thing to do?
Speaker 7: Drink alcohol? Any food.
Speaker 4: Yep, So what about just not going to the parties.
Speaker 4: It's okay, no, but you know you're not going to
Speaker 4: miss out on anything. But you accept all those temptations
Speaker 4: when your willpower is a little bit weaker around the
Speaker 4: holidays because you're darn tired. So that that's another really
Speaker 4: good trick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know that it is. But oftentimes you know,
Speaker 2: at nine, Julie, you know, whether it's your significant other,
Speaker 2: you know, who really wants to go. You may not
Speaker 2: want to go, but they really want to go. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's something work related, not necessarily like your office party,
Speaker 2: your company party, but it's somebody at work that nice
Speaker 2: enough to invite you, So you feel like you kind
Speaker 2: of have to go. So there is that pressure out there.
Speaker 2: But I'm with you a lot of the times you
Speaker 2: get invited to these things and you know, in your
Speaker 2: heart of heart you really don't want to go.
Speaker 1: And you know, I always.
Speaker 2: Say to Polly all the time, Look, if you want
Speaker 2: to go, go ahead and have a great time. If
Speaker 2: you really want me to go with you, if it's
Speaker 2: that important, I'll go.
Speaker 7: See that's a great idea.
Speaker 4: The other thing is to arrive late, leave early, and
Speaker 4: whether you tell people you have other obligations.
Speaker 7: Or not, it's up to you, and they don't really care.
Speaker 4: They love to see you too, but don't stay at
Speaker 4: the party too long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the eating is where it comes in.
Speaker 2: And I have, like I said, I've already found that
Speaker 2: this holiday season that every time I turn around, I'm
Speaker 2: reaching for something and then I jump on the scale
Speaker 2: last night, which I know you tell me not to
Speaker 2: do on a regular basis, or don't get too consumed
Speaker 2: by it, but I think you know, all of us
Speaker 2: have a little bit of vanity in us. And one
Speaker 2: other thing that I thought was interesting about food during
Speaker 2: the holidays. If you're going to somebody's house and you
Speaker 2: need to bring something, two things you can do. One,
Speaker 2: you could bring something that's a little bit healthier, kind
Speaker 2: of like you were talking about somebody dropping off carrots.
Speaker 1: That might be an.
Speaker 2: Extreme, but something a little bit more healthy if you're
Speaker 2: taking it somewhere. And then if you are hosting, to
Speaker 2: try to make the portions for others a little bit less,
Speaker 2: that's a great idea.
Speaker 4: Also, create a lot of fun around your parties, like
Speaker 4: somebody was doing a scavenger hunt the other day, and
Speaker 4: dancing and creating fun around them, so everything.
Speaker 7: Isn't centered around food.
Speaker 4: Same with the family, you know, creating like maybe you
Speaker 4: have traditional games you play, or you'll go for a
Speaker 4: walk before you eat, or remember Christmas Caroline and all that,
Speaker 4: then everything wasn't centered around food.
Speaker 7: If we can just have you know, food is food.
Speaker 4: We had talked so much to it and to sort
Speaker 4: of find other family traditions where it's centered around fun
Speaker 4: and food, and I think that helps a lot.
Speaker 2: I think that is a fantastic, fantastic idea. So you say, dancing,
Speaker 2: Are you dancing a lot of holiday parties?
Speaker 7: Dancing in my kitchen?
Speaker 4: That's what I do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I didn't ask you if you were. Are
Speaker 2: you dancing in someone else's kitchen when you're going over
Speaker 2: these holiday parties?
Speaker 4: Well, I went online and I tapped in how how
Speaker 4: to dance for old people?
Speaker 7: That's me like, and they gave me a few versions.
Speaker 7: So I'm working on my dance.
Speaker 2: Okay, girl? And are you a big Christmas Carol? Do
Speaker 2: you like going out Christmas Caroling?
Speaker 7: Love Christmas Carol?
Speaker 5: A love it? Love it?
Speaker 7: Love it?
Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, it's fun, it's creative. You know, you get
Speaker 4: you really have good conversations with people on the walks.
Speaker 7: It kind of combines everything.
Speaker 4: You're with people you like, the conversations are better, you're
Speaker 4: walking together, you're getting good exercise. And the look on
Speaker 4: people's faces when you know you're singing or they're singing
Speaker 4: outside your door. I think it's a neat tradition to have.
Speaker 4: Another great tradition is when you all piled in the
Speaker 4: car and went looked at Christmas lights to walk around
Speaker 4: the neighborhood and looked at all the lights. We always
Speaker 4: did that growing up. So and here we go again.
Speaker 4: We're trying to get the food noise out of our brain.
Speaker 4: We're not worried about our next meal or whether or
Speaker 4: not we're going to get that last Christmas cookie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lord knows, I've been getting that last Christmas cookie
Speaker 2: since about the eighth of the month.
Speaker 1: So thanks for reminding me.
Speaker 4: And the other thing we talked about briefly, Tom, is
Speaker 4: this mindset.
Speaker 7: I'll fix it in January.
Speaker 4: You know, January is just another month of the year
Speaker 4: and sort of get out of that mindset because your
Speaker 4: whole life isn't going to change in January. So that's,
Speaker 4: you know, how you really have to think about No,
Speaker 4: I'm just going to maintain as much of my good
Speaker 4: routines as I can and not go on that all
Speaker 4: or nothing yes, like, oh I've been bad today, I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna keep being bad. There's no such thing. So
Speaker 4: if we can get out of that mindset in January,
Speaker 4: then January won't be such a hardship. And that's the
Speaker 4: other sweet we try to give ourselves, but it really
Speaker 4: doesn't work.
Speaker 2: Jewels. Have a great rest of your day. Are we
Speaker 2: going to get together next Tuesday? Or do you have
Speaker 2: holiday plans for next Tuesday?
Speaker 7: Oh, we're getting together.
Speaker 2: Yes we do, Yes, we do. Okay, have a great
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