WEBVTT - 12-17-25 Midweek Crisis with Dan Carroll

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<v Speaker 1>Right back on the Big One seven hundred WLW nine

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five, Dan Carroll till midnight tonight. It is the

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night edition of the Midweek Crisis. Great night for

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<v Speaker 1>the UC Bearcats as they get the better of Alabama State.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a great night for the Zabor Musketeers as they

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<v Speaker 1>fall to Creighton by forty one. Forty one point loss

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<v Speaker 1>for the Xavier Musketeers, and I thought they had things

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<v Speaker 1>going the other way. So we'll see if coach Patino

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<v Speaker 1>can get them back on track. In the meantime, while

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<v Speaker 1>the UC basketball was game was going on, President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>made an address to the nation, and an address it

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<v Speaker 1>only lasted eighteen minutes. If someone would have had me

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<v Speaker 1>wager ahead of time, I would have wagered that this

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<v Speaker 1>address would have gone way over eighteen minutes. And Daniel Turner,

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<v Speaker 1>a power of the future, is here to is here

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<v Speaker 1>to analyze what Trump had to say tonight. Daniel Turner,

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<v Speaker 1>are you surprised it was only eighteen minutes?

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<v Speaker 2>That I am.

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<v Speaker 3>That's you know, considering this is.

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<v Speaker 2>Prime time and when the President asks for this coveted slot,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw them say, you know, they they they preempted

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<v Speaker 2>this season finale of survivor or something. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a coveted Yeah, this is a coveted slot. And and.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think it was a very impassionate speech.

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<v Speaker 2>It was definitely brief, a lot of charts which I

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<v Speaker 2>thought were interesting. We don't usually see presidents have visual aids,

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<v Speaker 2>but I my general takeaway is I could sense the

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<v Speaker 2>president's tremendous frustration that that not for credit, right, but

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<v Speaker 2>frustration that that we forget about how bad things were

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<v Speaker 2>and where we were as a country just a year ago. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the border alone could be a whole hour

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with you, Dan, But but but on energy, on

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<v Speaker 2>on foreign affairs, on uh, the economy, on an I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>just a plethora of issue. Not long ago, we had

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<v Speaker 2>an executive order that required us to drive electric vehicles

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<v Speaker 2>by twenty thirty. Yeah. Right, there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that the President inherited, and I think there was

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<v Speaker 2>a sense of frustration that, yes, everything is not perfect,

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<v Speaker 2>but by golly, remember where we were and it's only

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<v Speaker 2>been eleven months. Stick with me because we're headed in

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<v Speaker 2>the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think if he's in I think they've pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much said what their game plan is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>from here on out going into the midterms, and they

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<v Speaker 1>are going to talk about the economy and economic issues

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<v Speaker 1>and why Trump is better for the economy and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why we need to hold the Republicans need to hold

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<v Speaker 1>the House and hold the Senate. And I put a

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<v Speaker 1>star by this when he put up the chart about

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<v Speaker 1>wage games and how wages are now rising faster than inflation.

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<v Speaker 1>That struck me Daniel Turner as an area where I

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<v Speaker 1>think he can get a lot of t I because

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<v Speaker 1>that is something that is demonstrable. It is something that

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<v Speaker 1>I think most people can get their head around that

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<v Speaker 1>they they're making more money in that right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's that it's not immediately going out of their pocket

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<v Speaker 1>because inflation is taking such a big bite out of

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<v Speaker 1>their paychecks. How do you see that?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you, And I think when you add

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<v Speaker 2>in those other factors of a reverse migration or remigration

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<v Speaker 2>U that will see less of it of a strain,

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<v Speaker 2>less of a demand on things like housing and on

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<v Speaker 2>things like healthcare, and those costs will start to come

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<v Speaker 2>down as well. You know, we're always dealing with fixed commodities,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's something I've been thinking a lot about

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<v Speaker 2>in just an enlarge, thirty thousand foot conversations. Your energy

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<v Speaker 2>is a fixed commodity, and and the question is how

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<v Speaker 2>is it allocated? And education is a fixed commodity. Barack

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<v Speaker 2>Obama said, everyone has to go to college. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to give you money.

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<v Speaker 3>To do so. But we only have so many seats

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<v Speaker 3>at university. And what happened? The price went through the roof.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Barack Obama said, everyone has to have health care

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<v Speaker 2>by law. Well, we only have so many doctors and

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<v Speaker 2>so many clinics, and so what happened. Prices went through

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<v Speaker 2>the roof because the demand went through the roof. But

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<v Speaker 2>the supply was fixed. So we're always dealing with fixed commodities.

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<v Speaker 2>And we have a president who is a supply sider,

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<v Speaker 2>as we used to call ourselves on the right, that

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<v Speaker 2>we can increase the supply and bring down costs. But

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<v Speaker 2>we're battling a Democrat party and a Biden administration legacy,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a demand party, which is, how do we

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<v Speaker 2>get people to want more of these things? How do

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<v Speaker 2>we pay them to buy the things that we want.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no effort to increase supply. There was no

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<v Speaker 2>effort to produce more electricity. There was no effort to

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<v Speaker 2>produce more energy. All there was was giving out money

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<v Speaker 2>to force people to buy stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, of course, prices went through the roof as a result.

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<v Speaker 2>So the president has a lot on his plate, and

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<v Speaker 2>we are headed in a good direction. We're not there yet, right,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no I'm not spiking a football, but by golly,

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<v Speaker 2>we are headed in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. Towards the end, he said an economic boom is

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<v Speaker 1>on the way, and I think he really laid the

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<v Speaker 1>groundwork for all the things that are going to help

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<v Speaker 1>spur this economic boom. And he talked about energy prices

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<v Speaker 1>and another thing that I thought that was important that

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<v Speaker 1>another thing that people can get their head around is

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<v Speaker 1>mortgage costs and how the cost of owning your own

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<v Speaker 1>home is going to come down. And you talk about affordability,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for young people who've been priced out of the

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<v Speaker 1>housing market mostly because of where interest rates are for mortgages.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if that takes a turn and goes the

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<v Speaker 1>right way, I think that's going to be a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>big nutt right there.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of reason to be optimistic for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six. Like I said, there's not a I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not spiking the football. But if I look at the future,

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<v Speaker 2>I am fairly optimistic. Most of the tax provisions, the

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<v Speaker 2>economic provisions of the One Big Beautiful Bill, don't start

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<v Speaker 2>until January first. I saw a guy on Fox Business

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<v Speaker 2>this morning talk about five percent GDP in the first

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<v Speaker 2>and second quarter. Now that's real optimism, right. But there

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of things happening in twenty twenty six,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they're even unifying things. The President mentioned our

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. There's the Winter Olympics in

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of months. That's a unifying thing. There are

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<v Speaker 2>lots of things happening next year that can give America

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<v Speaker 2>sort of an injection of positivity. I think the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>they're only alternative. Their only option is to try to

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<v Speaker 2>create tension and frustration. They're looking for a George Floyd incident, right,

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<v Speaker 2>That's why you have all these ice protests. They're looking

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<v Speaker 2>to they're looking for violence, They're looking for anger to

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<v Speaker 2>sow the seeds of discord, because that's how they thrive.

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<v Speaker 2>They thrive in chaos. But there's a lot that could

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<v Speaker 2>unify this country, and quite frankly, if the American people

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<v Speaker 2>have a decent salary and can pay their bills and

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<v Speaker 2>pocket some cash and go on vacation and love their spouse.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not going to care about elections, and that's good, right.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not going to care about fighting.

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<v Speaker 3>For the because their life is fine, and that's the

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<v Speaker 3>way it should be.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>We shouldn't be vesting all of our effort into who

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<v Speaker 2>controls the House and the Senate. The problem with that

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<v Speaker 2>is that we were admitting government runs our lives. But

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<v Speaker 2>if we get our lives back, then, then let all

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<v Speaker 2>those idiots in DC fight and just let me be

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<v Speaker 2>happy and prosperous in my own self sustained autonomy.

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<v Speaker 3>The way our founders envisioned.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you're right. I think there was a

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<v Speaker 1>time in this country, especially in my lifetime, where we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't we didn't concern ourselves with the daily comings and

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<v Speaker 1>goings of what happened in Washington, DC. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it just because of the availability of all

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<v Speaker 1>that information right now, or we spend so much time

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<v Speaker 1>worrying about you know, is the House going to vote

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<v Speaker 1>on this? Are they going to get the healthcare thing going?

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna you know, get another budget passed before the

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<v Speaker 1>government shuts down. We used to not worry about all

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff on a on a daily basis,

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<v Speaker 1>and we do now. Did you see how he snuck in?

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<v Speaker 1>Early next year he's going to introduce new Chairman of

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<v Speaker 1>the Fed. Do you think that I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit he.

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<v Speaker 2>May ask for Jerome's power resignation a little sooner than

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<v Speaker 2>than may. I mean, he definitely is very frustrated with

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<v Speaker 2>with with Jerome Powell.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you know, think of how many obstacles he has.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he had a fire that the head of

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<v Speaker 2>the Bureau of Labor Statistics, because this was the woman

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<v Speaker 2>who they had to they had to reverse her jobs

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<v Speaker 2>numbers into the Biden economy by eight hundred thousand. And

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<v Speaker 2>you say that's not an error, right, Like you don't

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<v Speaker 2>get something wrong by eight hundred thousand. It reminds me

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<v Speaker 2>when Pete Buddhaje Edge was told, hey, you spend eight

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars, how many charging stations did you build? Margaret

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<v Speaker 2>Brennan asked him and he was like, oh, seven or

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<v Speaker 2>eight or eight.

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<v Speaker 3>He wasn't positive that was either seven or eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>These these numbers are.

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<v Speaker 2>You should have.

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<v Speaker 3>Numbers are hard and.

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<v Speaker 2>When the when the head of the Bureau of Labor

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<v Speaker 2>Statistics is inflating your economy numbers by eight hundred thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>we have a huge problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You almost wonder what were the real numbers? What were

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<v Speaker 2>the real numbers at the border when they would give

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<v Speaker 2>us fake So he has a lot of government, as

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<v Speaker 2>they call it, the deep state, and Jerome Powell is

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<v Speaker 2>just another one. Half of the FBI is another one. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a lot of bureaucrats in DC. And that

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<v Speaker 2>goes back to my earlier part. My earlier the point.

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<v Speaker 2>If DC has all this power, then they control our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>What he is doing with President tup is doing with

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<v Speaker 2>the Department of Education, we should be doing across the

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<v Speaker 2>board getting it out of DC and giving it back

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<v Speaker 2>to the states. You in Ohio had way more power

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<v Speaker 2>in Columbus than you guys ever will in Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you want education for your kids, you are

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<v Speaker 2>much more likely to get good education if education is

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<v Speaker 2>out of Columbus. But if you have to go all

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<v Speaker 2>the way to DC for your education, good luck, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, that's what we should be doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Across the board, putting it back in the states. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't disagree with that at all. From a political sense,

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<v Speaker 1>he I think this is a brilliant move where he

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the Warrior Dividend and one seven hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six dollars to every member of our armed services,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think, I don't know how that's the first

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard of that he said this. The first time

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<v Speaker 1>people heard about that was about thirty minutes ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's from a political standpoint, I think that's brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how anyone can stand up and be

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, one of the numbers about the Department

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<v Speaker 2>of War, I almost called the DoD the Department of War.

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<v Speaker 2>That really frustrates the left are the recruiting numbers, and

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<v Speaker 2>you have to struggle. They have to struggle with the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that if you're a seventeen year old kid and

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<v Speaker 2>you're thinking of joining the Marines, you look at someone

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<v Speaker 2>like Pete Haigsas, and you look at at at at

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<v Speaker 2>at General Kane, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and

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<v Speaker 2>you say, I want to be like those guys, right

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<v Speaker 2>like their their alpha, they're they're patriotic, their they're Biden

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<v Speaker 2>gave us a bunch of of of men dressed as

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<v Speaker 2>women with masks who were telling us about climate change,

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<v Speaker 2>and the numbers of the recruiting numbers dropped right, and

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<v Speaker 2>they looked at look at the terrible withdrawal from Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that was not a problem. The withdrawal from Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 2>They stand by it. But if the d O D

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<v Speaker 2>bombs a couple of narco terrorists in the Caribbean, they're

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<v Speaker 2>all up in arms, right, so go go figure that.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's that's something that the left.

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<v Speaker 2>Struggles with, and that's why they hate the military. This,

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<v Speaker 2>this warrior dividend is a lot President Trump's ethos of

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<v Speaker 2>building back to military and then making America strong and

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<v Speaker 2>making America patriotic, and and we started to lose that

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<v Speaker 2>and I think we're getting it back and that's great

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<v Speaker 2>for the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one hundred percent of the jobs on the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>went to American citizens, which I think is terrific and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole idea. So again, he got a lot in

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<v Speaker 1>there in eighteen minutes. And I don't know it did.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was a TV I was listening to. Did

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<v Speaker 1>it sound like the audio quality was off a little bit? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>how was the audio quality where as you were listening

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<v Speaker 1>to it, my auto quality was fine.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe maybe he just had had a bad connection.

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<v Speaker 2>But no mind was good.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then I guess, somewhere is a dollar

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<v Speaker 1>ninety ninety gallon. I know around here, I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>around two thirty five, So a dollar ninety nine I

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<v Speaker 1>would welcome that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>See, I would welcome that too. I think that they

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<v Speaker 2>reported around two dozen gas stations.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the majority of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Are in Oklahoma where the gas has fallen below two

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<v Speaker 2>dollars a gallon.

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<v Speaker 3>That's something really.

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<v Speaker 2>Positive, right because all of our farmers right now are

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<v Speaker 2>getting ready to start thinking about spring, and they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do so at diesel, which is four seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>a gallon and not eight bucks that it was under Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>And that means that you're planting your crops next year

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be a heck of a lot cheaper,

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<v Speaker 2>which means harvesting those crops will be cheaper, which means

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<v Speaker 2>your food will be cheaper.

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<v Speaker 3>So a lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>The inflation from the Biden era it took a while

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<v Speaker 2>to trip into the economy, and it's going to take

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<v Speaker 2>a while to get squeezed out of the economy. All

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<v Speaker 2>of this is because of government tinkering. And that's again

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<v Speaker 2>the government per government tinkering in the auto industry and

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<v Speaker 2>the energy industry, in the military, in education, dei ESG.

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<v Speaker 2>All of this nonsense, tinkering, tinkering, and all they did

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<v Speaker 2>was create chaos. And it takes a while to undo chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>And all this stuff takes a while to happen. But

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<v Speaker 1>one by one, the the opposition, the Democrats and the

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<v Speaker 1>left are running out of cudgels to beat Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>about the head and shoulders with with these these different issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Turner, it's so great to have you on all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. What do you let me ask you this?

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned diesel prices. People always ask her this question.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you this question. Wire diesel prices

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<v Speaker 1>so much higher than regular gasoline prices.

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<v Speaker 2>Mostly because diesel we don't we don't refine a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of it, and so diesel prices are high for the

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<v Speaker 2>same reason why a lot of the California blends are high.

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<v Speaker 2>When you have a refinery, refinery can produce lots of

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<v Speaker 2>different products, but every time you want to change the product,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like, let's just put it simply, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to you have to regulate the machine, calibrate the machine,

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<v Speaker 2>and get it ready to create the new version of it.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't produce a lot of diesel, and so the

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<v Speaker 2>main reason why diesel has expended is because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>number of volume. What we produced the most of is

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<v Speaker 2>regular unleaded, which is why it's the cheapest. But if

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<v Speaker 2>we produced more diesel, right, diesel prices would go down.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things President Trump I wish he would address,

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<v Speaker 2>and we will try to work with him. From the

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<v Speaker 2>energy perspective, we need more refining capacity. We need to

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<v Speaker 2>refine a lot. We have shut down a lot of refineries.

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<v Speaker 2>Gavin Newsom shut down several. We can produce all the

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<v Speaker 2>oil we want, but if we have limited refining capacity,

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<v Speaker 2>we're always going to have that bottleneck. And that's something

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<v Speaker 2>I wish he would spearhead for next year. Build more refineries.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what do you make out of what's happening with

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<v Speaker 1>Venezuela right now?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to see boots on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we've been through this before in regime change,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I understand what the President's doing. I think

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<v Speaker 2>his ultimate strategy, which maybe I shouldn't be saying on

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<v Speaker 2>the air because I'm giving it away. Sorry, mister President.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly think this is a China play. Eighty five

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<v Speaker 2>ninety percent of the oil from Venezuela goes to China.

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<v Speaker 2>China doesn't have any domestic oil production. It imports all

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<v Speaker 2>of it. It's twenty something million battles a day. So

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<v Speaker 2>why he has huge sanctions on Iran. Yes, sanctions on

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<v Speaker 2>Iran to protect Israel and stop terrorism in the Middle

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<v Speaker 2>East and terrorism worldwide. But also the majority of the

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<v Speaker 2>Ranian oil sales went to China. The majority of the

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<v Speaker 2>Venezuela and oil sales go to China. I think strategically

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<v Speaker 2>this is kicking China out of the Southern hemisphere. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of Monroe doctrine, but it is crippling

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<v Speaker 2>China because if they run out of oil imports, they

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<v Speaker 2>will sit down at the negotiating table and take their

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<v Speaker 2>place on the world stage under our boot where they

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<v Speaker 2>belong like little communists. So I think it's a China play.

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<v Speaker 1>Quite frankly, you know what, I think that that analysis

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<v Speaker 1>to me makes perfect sense. If he can choke off

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<v Speaker 1>the main artery of their energy supply, or at least restricted,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a great deal where to where they're feeling

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<v Speaker 1>the pinch on that, then they are work more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to play ball and and do things favorable to to

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<v Speaker 1>what Trump wants. So I think that's uh, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what Daniel Turner, That's why I have you on the

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<v Speaker 1>show man, because you see any of those things, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can, I can ask you about anything, and I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely love it. Is Ford done making evs? Now have

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<v Speaker 1>they seen the light?

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<v Speaker 2>You poor forge stockholders?

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<v Speaker 3>Right again, it's a publicly traded company that.

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<v Speaker 2>You always take that risk when you buy stock in

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<v Speaker 2>a company. But but this is where CEOs have to

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<v Speaker 2>face the tax the shareholders. You know, a long time

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about evs a ton on your program, and

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, you know, at the end of this year,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to remind you how much I love coming

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<v Speaker 2>on your program, and I've enjoyed my years with you,

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<v Speaker 2>and especially this last year. But many times we've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about EV's and I've always reminded your wonderful audience. The

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<v Speaker 2>one company that stayed out from the very beginning was Toyota,

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<v Speaker 2>and they took a lot of flack from the Biden administration,

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<v Speaker 2>but Toyota, which is the world's largest auto manufacturer, said

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<v Speaker 2>we don't see a market future in evs where it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to stick with hybrids and combustion engines. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>again tinkering. The Biden administration decided they want an EV's.

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<v Speaker 2>They forced it down Ford's throat and look at the result. Chaos,

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<v Speaker 2>pure chaos. Yep, huge loss for Ford. Daniel Turner, as always, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate the time, I appreciate you being here and

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for the analysis. Great work as always, and I

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<v Speaker 2>certainly hope we can be talking again at least one

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<v Speaker 2>more time before the new year.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to Dan anytime, but if not, Merry

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas to you and your listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much, Bratan, Thank.

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<v Speaker 1>You, Daniel. All the best to you and yours too,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. I appreciate that. Daniel Turner Power the Future,

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<v Speaker 1>great website. I check it out all the time if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to see what's happening with energy in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just great stuff. Nine fifty four. We got to

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<v Speaker 1>get to a break news coming up at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the hour, So what is your take on what

0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the Trumpster had to say tonight? And also Earlier today,

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<v Speaker 1>the former prosecutor of Hamilton County, Joseph Theaters, was on

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<v Speaker 1>this radio station and defending himself from the current prosecutor,

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<v Speaker 1>Connie Pillach, who would suggest that somehow during his time

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<v Speaker 1>in office that he engaged in behavior that saw an

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<v Speaker 1>innocent man go to prison. Absolutely disgusting, and we're definitely

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about that as we roll on till

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<v Speaker 1>midnight tonight. Dan Carroll in the Wednesday night edition of

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<v Speaker 1>The Midweek Crisis on seven hundred WLW, seven hundred WLW,

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<v Speaker 1>it's ten oh five. I'm Dan Carroll, that says the

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night edition for the Midweek Crisis. Joe Wandell running

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Board in the seven hundred WLW Command Center.

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<v Speaker 1>Front lines are open five to one to three, seven

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<v Speaker 1>four nine, seven, eight hundred, the Big One, talking about

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<v Speaker 1>what Trump had to say tonight and an eighteen minute speech.

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<v Speaker 1>He normally goes longer than that. Look, I'm I'm eighteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm perfectly fine with that. I think that is if

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're gonna be on TV, you're canceling people shows

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<v Speaker 1>that they want to watch, can they put up with,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, eighteen twenty minutes? Of the president being on

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<v Speaker 1>I would I would certainly hope. So I talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of the stuff is stuff we

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<v Speaker 1>heard before when he talked about what was going wrong

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<v Speaker 1>when he took office. Took office, talked about the border, crime,

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<v Speaker 1>the economy, drugs, women or men and women, sports, reminded

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<v Speaker 1>everyone that he won the popular votes, talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>bad Biden was. Now the border is closed, the border

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<v Speaker 1>is strong. It's went from the worst to the best

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<v Speaker 1>in typical Trump fashion. So that was that was some

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<v Speaker 1>good stuff there. Let's see what Mark in Monroe has

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<v Speaker 1>to say. And Mark, you're on seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Dan, I don't disagree with anything of the eighteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 5>not to comput be compared to the Rosemary Wood eighteen

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<v Speaker 5>minute missing minutes back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyhow, one by the infamous White House tapes, remember

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<v Speaker 1>remember them?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yes, sir, okay, I kind of want to shift

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<v Speaker 5>just a little bit here, all right. I caught win

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<v Speaker 5>with Dean bond Joni wanting to call it quits today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Dan Bongino, Yeah, he announced today that he is

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<v Speaker 1>going to step down as Deputy director of the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>in January.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my concern is his main thing.

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<v Speaker 5>When he was doing his talk radio, he put all

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<v Speaker 5>this emphasis on the pipe bomb thing, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>that he's he's been undermined by the deep state to

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<v Speaker 5>the point where he doesn't want to continue on anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>I think, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know, he's obviously changed his tune on that because

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<v Speaker 1>he was so dead set that there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more to it than meets the eye on the pipe

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<v Speaker 1>bombing thing, and he was really leading the way on

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<v Speaker 1>what was happening there. When different pieces of video would

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<v Speaker 1>come out, he would do he would do entire segments,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he did a couple of shows where

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<v Speaker 1>he did entire shows talking about the evidence that you

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<v Speaker 1>know that was coming forward trying to catch the pipe bomber.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was he and he was pretty incredulous that

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<v Speaker 1>they did. They really had no clue as to who

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<v Speaker 1>this person was. And you know, we've come to find

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<v Speaker 1>out subsequently that the Biden administration, under the FBI, under

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<v Speaker 1>the Biden administration, had phone records that could have put

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<v Speaker 1>the finger on this dude that they wound up arresting

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<v Speaker 1>back in there. They could have done that back in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, had they followed up on on the

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<v Speaker 1>the information that they had. So Dan Bonngino, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he's being comp I would like to think

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<v Speaker 1>that he's been around, he's savvy enough to not let

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<v Speaker 1>that happen. It's going to be interesting to see how

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<v Speaker 1>much liberty he's at to be able to speak frankly

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<v Speaker 1>about his time as deputy director of the FBI. But

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<v Speaker 1>and when the time comes when he's able to tell

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<v Speaker 1>that story, I think it's going to be worth listening to.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, if my opinion, there's a huge question

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<v Speaker 5>mark that hangs over to head of this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know that, Yeah, I used to listen to

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<v Speaker 5>his radio program, so I give him stack, you know,

0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 5>put stack in his integrity part of it. So there's

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<v Speaker 5>something that really looms large and uh behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 5>on this whole thing. So I guess kind of like

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<v Speaker 5>what you're alluding to, we're going to get to see

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<v Speaker 5>how this whole thing pans out. But even as a

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<v Speaker 5>whole I think our Department of Justice again beyond the end,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we failed with the Obama treaton thing, and

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know where we're going to go with this

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<v Speaker 5>COMI thing. But if we can't come up with convictions

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<v Speaker 5>and the Department of Justice. And again, maybe there's where

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<v Speaker 5>I'm putting my finger on this thing. Maybe he's just

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<v Speaker 5>frustrated he's not gain in any ground with you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like like I said, with convicting any of these people.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it is, Maybe it is a sense of frustration.

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it is he's just putting his throwing his hands

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 1>up because he's not he sees a clear direction and

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:12.000
<v Speaker 1>he's for whatever reason, not able to follow that. So

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:14.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you know, again, I don't know

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 1>how candid he's going to be able to be when

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:20.399
<v Speaker 1>when he steps away, and I'm guessing he's going to

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:22.240
<v Speaker 1>go back to doing all the media stuff he was

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 1>doing before, which I think will be great, and he'll

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 1>he'll have, uh, he'll have a lot to talk about,

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:29.880
<v Speaker 1>no doubt about it. Mark. I appreciate the I appreciate

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the phone call tonight.

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 2>Mark, thank you, thank you, thank.

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 1>You very much. And you know, I mean everything he's saying.

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:43.199
<v Speaker 1>It It goes to the trust that we have in

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>these institutions. And why do we question what the FBI,

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 1>what the Department of Justice, what investigators are saying about

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 1>what happened with the with the pipe bomber. Why Why?

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Because for so long the FBI let itself be compromised

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 1>and weaponized and let itself be controlled by political forces.

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:14.640
<v Speaker 1>And a story that came out a day or so ago,

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and this was John Solomon, just the news. As the

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:25.400
<v Speaker 1>FBI raised doubts that a search warrant for Donald Trump's

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Florida estate met probable call standards, the Justice Department under

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden, pushed to expand their search's scope, refused to

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 1>cooperate with Trump's attorney, and discounted the agent's concern about

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the optics of the raid. According to new emails turned

0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>over to Congress, the new evidence at surface may have

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 1>more than political impact, As a top congressman warns, it

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.400
<v Speaker 1>may give Trump calls to sue for civil liberty violations

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>or prompt prosecutor years to pursue a criminal investigation. This

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>is going to go down as a dark chapter in

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>American history, and President Trump may have recourse now to

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>be able to see damages at some point in time,

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 1>said Representative Tom Tiffany of Wisconsin. The new emails were

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:23.959
<v Speaker 1>turned over to Congress after Attorney General Pam Bondi and

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>the FBI director Cash Bettel, declassified them. They show that

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the Summer raid that the FBI in the summer of

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two raised repeated objections to raiding Trump's Mar

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 1>A Lago home in Florida, expressed doubt that there was

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:50.479
<v Speaker 1>sufficient probable cause to believe the then former president had broken

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>the law in handling classified documents. The memos also show

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:59.719
<v Speaker 1>that the bureau's Washington Field office and its agents were

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>pead tried to find alternative solutions to a contentious rate

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>of the property, including having a reasonable conversation with Trump

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>lawyers and limiting the search the search warrant to avoid

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:21.959
<v Speaker 1>private areas of the estate. However, the Biden era Justice

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Department brushed aside these suggestions, expanding both the scope of

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 1>the warrant and refusing any further discussion with Trump's personal lawyer.

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 1>And so they've got the email documents to show this

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>is exactly how it was all going down. So you know,

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 1>they want to hold their hands up and say, wow,

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>we didn't have anything to do with this, It was

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>all on the up and up. Well, no, we we

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>knew it wasn't from the very beginning, and we knew

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>that there were those in the FBI. I mean, thank

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 1>god that said we this, this is wrong. We don't

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:18.479
<v Speaker 1>have the evidence does not support this idea of rating

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>mar A Lago. But the Justice Department, who the FBI

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>answers to, and I guess you know, the FBI leadership

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>at the time, it didn't have enough wherewithal to be

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 1>able to shut this down. That and and and and

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 1>the idea that they wouldn't speak with Trump lawyers, the

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 1>idea that they wouldn't say, look, we've got a problem here,

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>we need to get this worked out for a former

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 1>president of the United States. Because I remember talking about

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 1>this at the time that that was typically the way

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>that these things were handled, that the lawyers get to

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>If the Justice Department has an issue with something, you

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>contact the lawyers, you figure things out. You don't go

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>in raid the home, start rooting through the underwear drawers

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>of Malani and Trump, and raided in the bedrooms of

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Trump's son. The memos also show the bureau's Washington Field

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>office and its agents repeatedly tried to find alternative solutions

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>to the contentious raid. The Justice Department originally wrote the

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Trump's lawyers on May eleventh of twenty twenty two, requesting

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>that the former president return all classified documents in his possession.

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>The deadline was set for May twenty fourth, but after

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 1>the deadline passed, the attorney wrote back, claiming the Justice

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Department had said that the deadline was flexible. The Justice

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Department said there would be no extension. In response, the

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 1>attorney said the Justice Department would either have to compel

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 1>compliance or try to reach an accommodation. The FBI believed

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 1>that was entirely reasonable to try and reach an agreement

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 1>with Trump's lawyers for the return of the documents. So

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>there was huge disagreement in there. But again, the people

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 1>who were in charge, the people who make the decisions,

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the people who answered to Joe Biden and Joe Biden's

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:44.480
<v Speaker 1>top people, they were the ones who said no. They

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 1>were the ones who, according to these emails, made the

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>call and said that we were going in. I don't

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 1>care what the Field Office says. Let me think about that.

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 1>And this is all coming to light now, and there's

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot more this kind of stuff that's been going

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>on that that we've known about for a long time,

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and so we keep having the politicization of these different

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>institutions and these the I mean, it just it pains

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 1>me to say and I've and i've I've made this

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>clear that the the FBI this one great institution, and

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 1>cash Betel is I think he's doing what he can

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:40.719
<v Speaker 1>to try and restore the dignity and try and restore

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the trust that the FBI had for so many decades.

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>But that's a that that's a that's a big hill

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>to climb. And the way this thing in with Brown

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>University is being handled, I think most of that is

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>on the local cops and we'll we'll see what happens there.

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Dan Bongino stepping away announced it today that

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 1>he was going to step down in January as deputy director.

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, really wasn't there all that long. I think

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>it's going to wind up being what seven eight months,

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe nine months when it's all said and done. So

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>it'll be interesting to see what he has. And I

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 1>saw the what he put on his X feed about

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>putting that out, and he just said to he thanks

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 1>to the President. And you know, it was very classy

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>about it. Didn't point fingers in anyone, nothing, nothing like that.

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's had to stay tuned and see

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 1>what see what Bongina has to has to say about that.

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>The other thing I wanted to get into tonight was

0:33:56.120 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Connie Pillage, the Hamilton County prosecutor. And she earlier a

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>few days ago, I think it was late. I think

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>it was Friday. Last week, she dismissed a murder case

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>from nineteen ninety five, and this was the capital murder

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>case against Elwood Jones. And she wrote that the decision

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:31.959
<v Speaker 1>follows month's long review of evidence and court filings, which

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>reveals several issues, including a lack of physical or forensic

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 1>evidence linking Jones to the murder, modern medical testing that

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:45.760
<v Speaker 1>excluded him as a suspect. And I've read as many

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 1>stories as I can about this. I don't know what

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 1>medical testing she's talking about. That's what she has said.

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 1>She has said that there is modern medical testing that

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:06.280
<v Speaker 1>excludes this guy as the murderer of rote to Nathan.

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Let's see here, you know, this was what's a date

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 1>on this? That doesn't matter, But Pillage announced the she

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 1>dismissed the nineteen ninety five capital murder case against Dulwood Jones.

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Review was conducted in response to a twenty twenty two

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 1>decision by Hamilton County Common please Court Judge Wendy Cross,

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:39.400
<v Speaker 1>overturning the Jones conviction, granting him a new trial. The

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:42.879
<v Speaker 1>previous prosecutor had appealed across his decision. On December fourth,

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 1>twenty five, the Highest Supreme Court affirmed the appeal. I

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 1>did not take this extraordinary step lightly, Pillage said, But

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 1>after reviewing the evidence, I'm not convinced that mister Jones

0:35:55.560 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 1>killed wrote to Nathan, and so so here's what she

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:10.720
<v Speaker 1>threw in on this. Jones was convicted of the nineteen

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 1>ninety four death of Nathan in the Blue Ash Motel

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>spent twenty seven years on death row. She said her

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 1>review addressed several critical issues. A lack of physical and

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>forensic evidence linking Jones directly to the murder, insufficient follow

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>up on multiple witness statements pointing to alternative suspects. Modern

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:40.400
<v Speaker 1>day medical testing excludes Joan as a suspect, prior failure

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>of the prosecutor's office to provide the defense with a

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 1>large volume of investigatory material before trial. And so it

0:36:52.080 --> 0:37:00.960
<v Speaker 1>was that statement that got to our former Hamilton County prosecutor,

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Joe Dieters, who is now on the bench of the

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State Supreme Court. And so he wrote a letter

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 1>at Connie Pillage. And that letter is posted on the

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WIWX site, and if you want to read

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>it for yourself, I suggest you do. And he starts

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 1>the letter out saying that he is writing. He wants

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 1>to be clear about the capacity in which he's writing.

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>He's doing as the if so is the former prosecuting

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:39.440
<v Speaker 1>attorney of Hamilton County as a citizen. And I covered

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Joe Dieters for years when I was a reporter at

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Fox nineteen, interviewed him, got to know him. I mean, look,

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 1>we're not buddies. We're not we don't hang out, but

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I got to know him a little bit. There was

0:37:55.960 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 1>never a hint of anything that was Joe Deeters did

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>everything in that office by the book. And trust me,

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 1>there are plenty of political opponents who would love if

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:16.839
<v Speaker 1>they had the chance to take him down, if they

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 1>possibly could. I mean, he ran that office with the

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 1>highest amount of integrity. And he wrote a letter to

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Connie Pillage and he wrote, I've watched the in full

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 1>of the press conference in which you dismissed the case

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 1>against Elwood Jones. During that conference, you publicly proclaimed that

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Jones had been cleared of the murder of Miss Nathan,

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 1>asserting that your decision was based on modern day medical

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 1>testing that excluded Elwood Jones as a suspect. He then

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:56.440
<v Speaker 1>went further. You publicly impugned the integrity of former members

0:38:56.480 --> 0:39:00.239
<v Speaker 1>of my office, suggesting they cheated, and falsely implied that

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 1>thousands of pages of evidence had been withheld from the defense.

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 1>You compounded these accusations by portraying your actions as a

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 1>necessary correction to alladge past miss conduct, invoking the creation

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 1>of a conviction integrity unit as justification. And that's another

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:25.920
<v Speaker 1>thing that Connie Pillage has has going on here, but

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>we got to get I'm going to continue this on

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 1>the other side of the break the letter that Joe

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Dieters wrote to Connie Pillage, and if you did not

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>listen to him earlier today as he and Mark Petemeyer

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 1>were on the Bill Cunningham Show, I suggest to go

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 1>back to the podcast and listen to that, because that

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>was a compelling thirty minutes of radio, the likes of

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>which you do not hear every day. So I highly

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>suggest that you go back and give that a listen,

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:57.879
<v Speaker 1>but we'll continue on with this. Your phone calls as well.

0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Five one three, seven four nine The Big One Wednesday

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>night edition of the Midweek Crisis on seven hundred WLW. Yeah,

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 1>back on the Big One, seven hundred w l W

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 1>ten thirty seven We roll till midnight tonight, five three

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 1>hundred the Big One. I'm talking about Joe Dieters. He

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:22.280
<v Speaker 1>was on the Bill Cunningham Show today responding to Connie Pillach,

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 1>who decided that look is she looked at it. She

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 1>looked at it. She decided that Elwood Jones didn't commit

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 1>this murder. Back in nineteen ninety four, of Ruugh wrote

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>a Nathan at the Embassy Suites in Blue ash.

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 1>She her her job is to pursue justice. So Joe

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Dieters wrote a letter to her. He was in You

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 1>heard a SoundBite from him on the during the news

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 1>to the bottom of the hour when he was on

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 1>with Cunningham earlier today and he he writes that he

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:02.399
<v Speaker 1>talked about how he watched her entire news conference where

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 1>she dismissed the case. And then this is what really

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 1>upset Joe Deaders more than anything else. He says, you

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 1>went Further, speaking to Ms. Pillage, you publicly impugned the

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 1>integrity of former members of my office, suggesting they cheated,

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and falsely implied that thousands of pages of evidence had

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:25.439
<v Speaker 1>been withheld from the defense. You compounded these accusations by

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>portraying your actions as necessary corrective to allege past misconduct.

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 1>These assertions are not only outrageous, they are false, reckless,

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>and profoundly damaging. They constitute a gross disservice to the

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 1>people of Hamilton County and an unjustified attack on honorable

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 1>public servants. First, you claim that modern day medical testing

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:55.800
<v Speaker 1>excluded Jones from the murder is demonstrably untrue. You stated

0:41:55.840 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 1>that because miss Nathan had hepatitis, Jones would necessarily have

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>contracted it had he been the perpetrator. Yet the defense's

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>own paid expert testified that there was only a thirty

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:13.919
<v Speaker 1>three percent chance that Jones would have contracted hepatitis even

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 1>if he were the person who beat her to death.

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:23.399
<v Speaker 1>A thirty three percent probability of transmission is not exclusion.

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Either you do not understand the meaning of that term,

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 1>or you knowingly made a false statement or made a

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:34.319
<v Speaker 1>statement that was patently false. Your reference to thousands of

0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:39.239
<v Speaker 1>pages withheld evidence is likewise a red herring. After the

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:44.720
<v Speaker 1>defendant exhausted every available state appellate remedy, his council sought

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 1>additional records in federal court, specifically police runs to the

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 1>hotel and a questionnaire circulated by Blue Ash Police Department

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>to hotel guests. These materials contained no exculpatory evidence whatsoever.

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:04.919
<v Speaker 1>They consisted of paper, nothing more, no facts, no forensic revelations,

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 1>no information that would have altered the outcome of the case.

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:13.720
<v Speaker 1>The Federal District Court explicitly found that these materials would

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 1>not have affected jones conviction. The Sixth Circuit Court of

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Appeals unanimously affirmed that conclusion. If you have not read

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 1>that opinion, you should have. The claim you advanced publicly

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 1>is baseless. I was a prosecutor ultimately responsible for the

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:34.440
<v Speaker 1>decision to seek Jones's indictment. At no point did my

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 1>office cheat, as you so casually and irresponsibly allege. Mark

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Petemeyer is among the most respected prosecutors in the history

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 1>of Ohio. Your statement about him and others were slanderous, unjustified,

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and wrong. If you are committed to transparency, I suggest

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 1>you explain the following facts to the public. How many

0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:02.400
<v Speaker 1>individuals possessed a master key capable of opening the locked

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 1>door to rode to Nathan's hotel room that morning. The

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 1>answer is for how Jones sustained the infected wound to

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 1>his hand, an injury consistent only with striking a human mouth.

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>How the distinctive walkie talkie in Jones's possession the murder

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 1>weapon was supposedly used by someone else, a question never answered.

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:31.799
<v Speaker 1>How Miss Nathan's unique piece of custom jewelry ended up

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 1>in the toolbox in the trunk of Jones's car, which

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:40.920
<v Speaker 1>the defense claimed, without a shred of proof it was

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 1>planted by law enforcement. You also stated that Miss Nathan's

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:50.919
<v Speaker 1>family was merely disappointed by your decision, that that characterization

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:54.840
<v Speaker 1>borders on insulting. They are furious you may well have

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 1>violated Marcy's law in the manner in which this decision

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>was handled. Elwood Jones is no innocent victim of circumstance.

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:08.240
<v Speaker 1>He's a career criminal with prior arrest for aggravated burglary,

0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 1>assault on a police officer, multiple assaults on civilians, and

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 1>domestic violence. He served prison time for aggravated burglary and

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 1>was released on parole, committed another aggravated burglary and returned

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 1>to prison. You have chosen to release Jones after thirty

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 1>years of incarceration based on mercy or policy considerations. That

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:33.920
<v Speaker 1>would have been your prerogative as an elected official. Reasonable

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 1>people could disagree, but it would have been within your authority.

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:44.319
<v Speaker 1>What is unforgivable is attempting to justify that decision through

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:49.760
<v Speaker 1>falsehoods and by maligning the reputation of dedicated public service

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 1>or public servants. I should say, you stated that you

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 1>struggled with this decision for months. If that is true,

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 1>why did you never once consult the prosecutor who litigated

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 1>this case for more than twenty five years. You spoke

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:13.719
<v Speaker 1>with defense counsel and even sent them a screenshot of

0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 1>your motion, yet you've never contacted me, not once. I'm

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:27.840
<v Speaker 1>aware that you never tried a murder case. I do

0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:30.360
<v Speaker 1>not know whether anyone on your staff has ever served

0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:34.080
<v Speaker 1>as first chair in a death penalty prosecution. There is

0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:37.120
<v Speaker 1>no shame in seeking guidance or experience when confronting matters

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:41.439
<v Speaker 1>of this gravity. I expected better judgment from you, respectfully,

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Joseph ted Eaters and I don't know how you I

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know how you say it better than that Ken

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and Mason. What say you?

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:56.680
<v Speaker 6>Dan, I'm very familiar with that case. I've known Choe

0:46:56.719 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 6>Dieters for almost sixty years. We played baseball together. As

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:03.440
<v Speaker 6>he's one of the most outstanding human beings that's ever

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:06.480
<v Speaker 6>lived on this earth, one of the most honorable men.

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:08.840
<v Speaker 6>And pitt Meyer is one of the greatest prosecutors of

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 6>all time. And this was purely a political decision. Dan,

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 6>She's pleasing her voting block, That's all she's doing, you know.

0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:23.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, is Connie Pillich really need to enhance her

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 1>bona fides with the Justice Project or these other groups

0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:31.280
<v Speaker 1>that seek to uh, you know, release those from prison

0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:34.760
<v Speaker 1>who have been wrongfully convicted? Does does does she really?

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's she won the office, she's the prosecutor.

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Now does she really need to have this unit that's

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:45.080
<v Speaker 1>going to go out and seek justice for all these

0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:48.880
<v Speaker 1>who are wrong? Is she going to continue to malign

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the honesty and integrity of the work that Joe Dieters

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:55.800
<v Speaker 1>did and Mark pete Meyer and others in that prosecutor's office.

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:59.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I look when Joe Deeters, Joe Dieters bent

0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 1>over backwards to ensure public integrity and public trust in

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 1>that office, in that hamlet, and it was probably the

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:13.360
<v Speaker 1>finest prosecutor's office in the state of Ohio and probably

0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:16.400
<v Speaker 1>in the country during the time that he ran that office.

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:22.960
<v Speaker 6>I Dan, you and I have as much experience as

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:26.840
<v Speaker 6>Connie Phillish does trying cases in court. Yeah, she has none.

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:30.840
<v Speaker 6>She has no experience of any kind in the statement

0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:34.319
<v Speaker 6>Joe made that the fact she never contacted Joe, she

0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:35.680
<v Speaker 6>never contacted Pittmeyer.

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:40.600
<v Speaker 1>How do you not How do you not, even if,

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.319
<v Speaker 1>even if you're on the other side, which she is on,

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:46.920
<v Speaker 1>of the political aisle, How do you not have the

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:53.960
<v Speaker 1>professional integrity to contact the prosecutors of that case and say, look,

0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at this, here's what I found. Tell me

0:48:57.640 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 1>where I'm wrong. How do you not challenge your own assertions?

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:05.799
<v Speaker 1>How do you not challenge your own conclusions on a

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:09.319
<v Speaker 1>case of this magnitude? Don't you want to be right

0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:14.719
<v Speaker 1>when you decide that someone who's convicted of murder, of

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:18.040
<v Speaker 1>taking this woman away from her family, who is on

0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:22.320
<v Speaker 1>death row, and you're you know, tried by a jury

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:28.319
<v Speaker 1>and all the courts of appeals, the district courts, all

0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:31.320
<v Speaker 1>these other courts that have looked at the during the

0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:36.360
<v Speaker 1>appellate process. Don't you want to be right if you

0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:39.359
<v Speaker 1>alone are going to make this decision. Don't you want

0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 1>to have your theories tested and with stand scrutiny. But

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 1>apparently Connie Pillage did. She spoke to the fuse attornies

0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:52.279
<v Speaker 1>and never contacted Joe Dieters Ones. Unbelievable.

0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:57.839
<v Speaker 6>Well, Elwood Jones in his attorneys thought this for twenty

0:49:57.920 --> 0:49:59.879
<v Speaker 6>five years, Dan, and never were they able to get

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 6>anybody return reverse the decisions. The evidence was compelling, that

0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:09.520
<v Speaker 6>was overwhelming. You know, the man killed the lady, there's

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:13.440
<v Speaker 6>no doubt about it. And the disservice they've done to

0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 6>her family also, can't I can't imagine the anger and

0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:23.040
<v Speaker 6>the frustration they must be feeling. And Dan, as I said,

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:26.439
<v Speaker 6>this is purely a political move on Connie Pillich's part,

0:50:26.960 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 6>that's all. It is a political move. She doesn't know

0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 6>one iota of the case. Dan, I'm sure you know

0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:37.240
<v Speaker 6>ten times what she knows about this case with Elwood Jones.

0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean I didn't. I didn't cover this case

0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:44.719
<v Speaker 1>back in the day, So I mean I know what

0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I read about it. I've heard Joe Deeters talk about

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:51.760
<v Speaker 1>this case multiple times on the Cunningham Show. Mark Petemeyer

0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 1>was on with in the Studio with Cunningham and Joe

0:50:54.719 --> 0:50:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Dieters today and all you have to do is listen

0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:05.040
<v Speaker 1>to them talk. And they are look, if if they

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:09.839
<v Speaker 1>had a shred of doubt that this guy didn't do it,

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:13.720
<v Speaker 1>then he would not be on death row today. And

0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and they they, I mean they they used every bit

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:22.200
<v Speaker 1>of the forensic capabilities and the technology that they had

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:26.759
<v Speaker 1>back in the mid nineties to see to it that

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:29.919
<v Speaker 1>justice was done in this case. And then I saw

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Colin and Connie Pillach on TV earlier today and she's

0:51:34.120 --> 0:51:38.560
<v Speaker 1>talking about, well if if someone goes to prison and

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:40.799
<v Speaker 1>they didn't do it, well that's not justice for that

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:43.960
<v Speaker 1>family either. Well, you know you're right about that. That's

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:50.120
<v Speaker 1>a true statement. But to to not contact Pete Meyer

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:57.240
<v Speaker 1>and not contact Joe Dieters on this, and and and

0:51:57.239 --> 0:52:00.439
<v Speaker 1>and at least challenge what they know on this, it's

0:52:00.440 --> 0:52:03.320
<v Speaker 1>a sin. It's a sinal weakness. It's terrible.

0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:08.839
<v Speaker 6>It's you know, this lady is going to turn out

0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:09.920
<v Speaker 6>to be a disaster.

0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Dan.

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:14.759
<v Speaker 6>I've already heard comments stuff going on downtown that uh,

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:18.400
<v Speaker 6>it appears a lot of people were unhappy with unequal

0:52:18.640 --> 0:52:22.839
<v Speaker 6>justice being applied in the courtrooms and Cincinnati right now,

0:52:23.880 --> 0:52:27.760
<v Speaker 6>you know, and uh once again, you know, her prosecutors

0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:33.440
<v Speaker 6>are catering to her voting block. It's just it's amazing.

0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:37.320
<v Speaker 6>And I think then we were all afraid that things

0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:40.880
<v Speaker 6>like this would happen, you know, they would turn justice

0:52:41.000 --> 0:52:44.440
<v Speaker 6>up on its up on its ear. I mean, we

0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:49.400
<v Speaker 6>have a completely democratic, you know, set of politicians now

0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:55.000
<v Speaker 6>downtown and this city it's in trouble, it really is.

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:59.680
<v Speaker 6>And I mean, I Connie Pillage, I would wag your

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:02.240
<v Speaker 6>guests Dan with you that ninety five percent of people

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:06.200
<v Speaker 6>that voted for didn't know who she was. She just

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:09.880
<v Speaker 6>tended to have a D by her name. You know,

0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 6>they could have.

0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 1>She's run, She's run for several different offices over the years.

0:53:16.000 --> 0:53:18.279
<v Speaker 1>I actually I interviewed her once when I was at

0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:22.399
<v Speaker 1>Fox nineteen and uh, I forget I think she might

0:53:22.400 --> 0:53:24.160
<v Speaker 1>have been running for state rep back at the time.

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:31.000
<v Speaker 1>But uh, I found her extremely distasteful then, just based

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:32.640
<v Speaker 1>on that one interaction that we have.

0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:36.960
<v Speaker 6>You know, I admire her service to the country.

0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was country.

0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:42.520
<v Speaker 6>She served comtry and I admire for that, But she

0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:45.880
<v Speaker 6>has no legal background of any kind to run the

0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:49.640
<v Speaker 6>position she's in. You know, it's like, you know, me

0:53:49.800 --> 0:53:54.480
<v Speaker 6>going in and operating on someone's heart. God helped that

0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:55.120
<v Speaker 6>poor guy.

0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, not a good idea.

0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:01.480
<v Speaker 6>That's kind of what she's doing. I know, as a prosecutor,

0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:05.799
<v Speaker 6>she's having people heading up the field of prosecution and

0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:08.440
<v Speaker 6>she has no idea what she's talking about, what she's doing.

0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:12.479
<v Speaker 6>You know, I'd like to be a fly on the

0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:15.520
<v Speaker 6>inside her wall when she's asking people, what is that?

0:54:15.920 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 6>What am I supposed to do? What is Marcy's law?

0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:20.480
<v Speaker 4>What?

0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:23.840
<v Speaker 6>What I mean? She probably is unaware of half the

0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:27.040
<v Speaker 6>stuff going through office on a daily basis. She's probably

0:54:27.040 --> 0:54:32.200
<v Speaker 6>had prosecutors that are teach her what's going on, and

0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:33.640
<v Speaker 6>she's supposed to be the leader.

0:54:33.800 --> 0:54:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's insane at the very least in my opinion.

0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:40.200
<v Speaker 1>She owes Joe Dieters and she owes Mark pete Meyer

0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:45.879
<v Speaker 1>a sincere apology for what she said about them, And

0:54:46.600 --> 0:54:51.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, this notion, it just it just is to me,

0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:55.880
<v Speaker 1>it is absolutely jaw dropping that she would not consult

0:54:55.920 --> 0:55:01.120
<v Speaker 1>with them on a decision of this magnitude This is

0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:04.839
<v Speaker 1>just absolutely draw. I mean, she's a prosecutor. They were

0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:08.759
<v Speaker 1>the prosecutor. I mean in that sense, are are Aren't

0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:12.719
<v Speaker 1>they on the same team? Are they? Are you telling

0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:15.360
<v Speaker 1>me that Joe, Joe Deaters was not interested in justice?

0:55:16.960 --> 0:55:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Are you you know? Are you telling me that that

0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Joe Dieters ran a slip shot operation at the Hamilton

0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:27.840
<v Speaker 1>County Prosecutor's office. I mean, remember when Tracy Hunter was

0:55:27.840 --> 0:55:31.000
<v Speaker 1>was going through her difficulties and she wound up the

0:55:31.080 --> 0:55:32.880
<v Speaker 1>court and what did he? What did Joe Deeters do?

0:55:34.160 --> 0:55:37.279
<v Speaker 1>He he went out and he got two of the

0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:41.040
<v Speaker 1>of the very best defense attorneys that he could find,

0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:44.880
<v Speaker 1>one one one day here in in Hamilton County, the

0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:49.799
<v Speaker 1>other one in Claremont County. And he got uh and uh.

0:55:50.640 --> 0:55:55.440
<v Speaker 1>He went and got these two defense attorneys to prosecute

0:55:55.440 --> 0:56:01.319
<v Speaker 1>the case. Defense attorneys he who had no skin in

0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 1>the game, to make sure that the prosecution was above

0:56:07.760 --> 0:56:10.880
<v Speaker 1>board and honest as possible. That's the way Joe Dieters

0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:15.560
<v Speaker 1>ran his office. So I mean, I mean, you talk

0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:20.560
<v Speaker 1>about trust, you talk about integrity, you talk about high standards.

0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I think all those things are being compromised now under

0:56:25.800 --> 0:56:28.759
<v Speaker 1>the leadership of Connie.

0:56:28.480 --> 0:56:32.880
<v Speaker 6>Pillage Well, and that to get judge you're talking about

0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:38.600
<v Speaker 6>Tracy Hunter. She was truly mentally affected by something. She

0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:42.120
<v Speaker 6>was not all there and the things she did were

0:56:43.440 --> 0:56:46.960
<v Speaker 6>as bad as any judge it's ever been in Cincinnati ever.

0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:51.520
<v Speaker 6>I mean the way that the length she went to

0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:57.840
<v Speaker 6>free her brother of trouble was so criminally criminally corrupt.

0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:01.520
<v Speaker 6>I mean, and to this day, I imagine she's probably

0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:04.480
<v Speaker 6>in Connie Pilch's office every day trying to get completely

0:57:04.520 --> 0:57:05.400
<v Speaker 6>cleared of everything.

0:57:07.120 --> 0:57:09.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, it'll be interesting. It'll be interesting to see if

0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:13.480
<v Speaker 1>any local reporters, when they have a chance to talk

0:57:13.480 --> 0:57:18.160
<v Speaker 1>with Connie pillach Well, will challenge her with any of

0:57:18.240 --> 0:57:22.800
<v Speaker 1>the any other things that Joe Dieters had to say.

0:57:23.640 --> 0:57:28.520
<v Speaker 6>She'll have no comment, She won't address it, Dan, and

0:57:28.640 --> 0:57:33.360
<v Speaker 6>unfortunate and the media won't won't harass her about it either.

0:57:34.160 --> 0:57:37.080
<v Speaker 6>Bill Cunningham and you will be the only people in

0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:38.960
<v Speaker 6>town really speaking up against her.

0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Ken has always been we got to run. I always

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you listening, and I appreciate you picking up the

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<v Speaker 1>fun Dan, great show Ken from Mason, Thank you very much. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so again comes to this conclusion. You know all these judges,

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<v Speaker 1>all these pullet processes, everyone who's reviewed this case for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five years. Connie Pillach comes along says, you know what,

0:58:09.000 --> 0:58:15.040
<v Speaker 1>he didn't do it. You gonna dismiss the case. All good, unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 1>And while she's doing it, she takes a swipe at

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<v Speaker 1>two of the very best, if not the best, that

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton County has ever seen. Ten fifty five. We got

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<v Speaker 1>to get to a break. More of your phone calls

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<v Speaker 1>We roll till midnight tonight. It is the Wednesday night

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<v Speaker 1>edition of the Midweek Crisis. Phone lines are open. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Ala Harris is out there continuing the book tour and

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<v Speaker 1>going on any podcasts that'll have her. She's she's all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place, and now the reports are is that

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<v Speaker 1>she is laying the groundwork, laying the groundwork for another

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<v Speaker 1>run at being president of the United States. That's just fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty twenty five isn't even over yet and already they're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about who's going to be next, who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to be the candidate in twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Axios reports that Harris has made has made clear to

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<v Speaker 1>potential twenty twenty eight rivals that she is working to

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<v Speaker 1>keep another White House campaign viable, even as concerns persist

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<v Speaker 1>among Democrat donors and party officials about her electoral prospects.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, her electoral prospects back in the Uh the

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<v Speaker 1>early days of the twenty twenty four race were so

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<v Speaker 1>bad that she dropped out before the first primary. And

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a little, a little clip of this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast she was on and I and the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I forget exactly how he phrased the question, but he

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<v Speaker 1>essentially asked her if she was just really just a

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<v Speaker 1>DEEI hire. She got all indignant about that. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely not. Some people have have said that she was

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<v Speaker 1>the very best, the most qualified, most qualified person who

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<v Speaker 1>ever run for ever run for president. Absolutely amazing. Uh. I. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a new poll out there that says Acasio Cortes

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandria Ocasio Cortes is ahead of jd Vance for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two twenty eight hypothetical twenty twenty eight presidential race, Alexander

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandria Okazio Cortes beats Vice President j d Vance by

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<v Speaker 1>two points fifty one the forty nine percent. The New

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<v Speaker 1>York Democrat congresswoman known as aoc edges the likely Republican

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<v Speaker 1>nominee fifty one to forty nine percent. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, the next race is until twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>How can you possibly how can you possibly have any

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<v Speaker 1>polls that there are no polls that mean anything right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were talking earlier tonight about Donald Trump speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to the nation. That was at nine o'clock Eastern time.

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<v Speaker 1>Right before that, though, the House of Representatives passed a

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<v Speaker 1>GOP healthcare bill without extending the enhanced COVID era Obamacare subsidies,

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<v Speaker 1>which are set to expire on January first. Mike Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>said Wednesday the bill will reduce premiums for all Americans

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<v Speaker 1>by an average of at least eleven percent, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>just the beginning. He said, there will be much more

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<v Speaker 1>to come, more ideas than the first part of next

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<v Speaker 1>year to bring down the cost of health care. And

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<v Speaker 1>what the bill did in addition to that, tonight, is

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<v Speaker 1>it increases the quality of care and access to care.

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<v Speaker 1>He further slammed Democrats for attempting to weaponize healthcare without

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<v Speaker 1>a real solution and continue to shovel taxpayer dollars onto

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<v Speaker 1>a broken system. So that begs the question, is Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson telling the truth when he talks about this healthcare bill?

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<v Speaker 1>And you may recall the last time we debated a

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<v Speaker 1>healthcare bill, we had Obama NonStop talking about healthcare. And so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you've heard the montages before. This is probably the most

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<v Speaker 1>complete one, and it's Obama and Obama and Obama, Obama

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<v Speaker 1>at the State of the Union, Obama campaign rallies, Obama

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<v Speaker 1>on television appearances, and if you've forgotten what that debate

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<v Speaker 1>was like when Obama was selling out selling Obamacare. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this montage is almost three minutes long, but it really

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<v Speaker 1>drives home this. This the way he sold this and

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<v Speaker 1>others around him, is why we are where we are

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<v Speaker 1>today on issue of health care and why I just

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<v Speaker 1>had to read that last story because of the constant

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<v Speaker 1>lines that Obama told about this and this is a

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<v Speaker 1>little refresher on what he was selling back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>And Joe Wadell. Let's hear cut number two. We will

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<v Speaker 1>keep this promise to the American people.

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<v Speaker 7>If you like your doctor, you will be able to

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<v Speaker 7>keep your doctor period. If you like your healthcare plan,

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<v Speaker 7>you will be able to keep your health care plan period.

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<v Speaker 7>If you like your doctor or healthcare plan, you can

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<v Speaker 7>keep it. Nothing in this plan will require you or

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<v Speaker 7>your employer to change the coverage of the doctor you have.

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<v Speaker 7>The only change you'll see are falling costs as our

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<v Speaker 7>reforms take hold. If you like your healthcare system and

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<v Speaker 7>your doctor, the only thing reform will mean to you

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<v Speaker 7>is your healthcare will cause us less. I will not

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<v Speaker 7>sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits,

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<v Speaker 7>either now or in the future. It is a cost

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<v Speaker 7>that will not, I repeat, will not add to our deficits.

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<v Speaker 7>There will be a provision in this plan that requires

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<v Speaker 7>us to come forward with more spending cuts if the

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<v Speaker 7>savings we promised don't materialize. Because it is paid for

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<v Speaker 7>and curbs the waste and inefficiency in our healthcare system,

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<v Speaker 7>this bill will help reduce our deficit by as much

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<v Speaker 7>as one point three trillion dollars in the coming decades,

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<v Speaker 7>making it the largest deficit reduction plan in over a

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<v Speaker 7>decad well actually reduce the deficit by four trillion dollars

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<v Speaker 7>over the long term, healthcare reform must be and will

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<v Speaker 7>be deficit neutral in the next decade. We have built

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<v Speaker 7>in the law all sorts of measures that in the

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<v Speaker 7>years to come, health care inflation, which has been rising

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<v Speaker 7>about three times as fast as people's wages, is finally

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<v Speaker 7>going to start slowing down. Will eliminate way fraud and

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<v Speaker 7>abuse in our healthcare system, but will also take on

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<v Speaker 7>key causes of rising costs, saving billions while providing better

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<v Speaker 7>care to the American people. Reducing the waste and inefficiency

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<v Speaker 7>in Medicare and Medicaid will pay for most of this plan.

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<v Speaker 7>We've estimated that most of this plan can be paid

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<v Speaker 7>for by finding savings within the existing healthcare system. The

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<v Speaker 7>only thing this plan would eliminate is the hundreds of

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<v Speaker 7>billions of dollars in waste and fraud, as well as

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<v Speaker 7>unwarranted subsidies in Medicare that go to insurance companies subsidies

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<v Speaker 7>that do everything to pad their profits.

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<v Speaker 1>Will start reducing the.

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<v Speaker 7>Waste in the system for unnecessary tests to unwarranted insurance subsidies,

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<v Speaker 7>so that over time. Americans are going to save money.

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<v Speaker 7>Amilies will save on their premiums. Businesses that would see

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<v Speaker 7>their costs rise if we do not act will save

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<v Speaker 7>money now and they will save money in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Save this gud. This goes on for about another minut

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. And this was Obama and Grabian was

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<v Speaker 1>the one that put that that montage together. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you see it, they're all from different events every time,

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<v Speaker 1>every and then and then for it seemed like for

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<v Speaker 1>two years, that's all Obama talked about the Affordable Care Act.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course we know it is the Unaffordable Care Act.

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<v Speaker 1>And I especially love the part where he's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the fraud, about how it's built into the system that

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<v Speaker 1>there's not going to be any fraud that I mean

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<v Speaker 1>this this bill is so air tight that they really

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<v Speaker 1>are going to caught. And then that's how they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that that's one of the main components of

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<v Speaker 1>how this bill is going to be so efficient and

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<v Speaker 1>save so much money because they are really going to

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<v Speaker 1>cut down on the fraud. Well House Judiciary Committee Chairman

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Jordan and the Ways and Means Chairman Jason Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>Energy and Commerce Committee chair Brett Guthrie are talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a Government Accountability Office report revealing the staggering level of

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<v Speaker 1>fraud that occurs thanks to Obamacare subsidies. The Government Accountability

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<v Speaker 1>Office released a report on the massive levels of fraud

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<v Speaker 1>that come with the Advanced Premium Tax Credits and Affordable

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<v Speaker 1>Care Act, or Obamacare, subsidy to health insurers to lower

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<v Speaker 1>the monthly health insurance premiums. Democrats shut down the government

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<v Speaker 1>for weeks over the looming end of the year expiration

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<v Speaker 1>of the Enhanced Premium Tax Credits, a more generous version

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<v Speaker 1>of the tax credits that the left leaning party boosted

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<v Speaker 1>through the Biden era Coronavirus stimulus pack the America Rescue Plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats continued the subsidies through the so called Inflation Reduction

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<v Speaker 1>Act that will expire at the end of twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>The GAO, as part of its analysis, conducted covert operations,

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<v Speaker 1>which included fictitious identities that flood ensures with unjustified sub subsidies.

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<v Speaker 1>It found that one hundred percent of the fake applications

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<v Speaker 1>were approved by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services

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<v Speaker 1>as recently as twenty twenty four, with ninety percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the fraudulent applicants continuing to receive coverage in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>So why is it that seemingly every government program that's

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<v Speaker 1>ever been conceived has such a huge element of fraud

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<v Speaker 1>and waste? It is? I mean, that's a question I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to throw out there. Is it possible to

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<v Speaker 1>have a single government program that isn't just riddled with

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<v Speaker 1>fraud and ripoffs and overspending and unaccountable spending every time

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<v Speaker 1>you turn around and look. I would never be able

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out, how do you how do you set

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<v Speaker 1>up a grift that's going to rip off Obamacare? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how to do it, but there's plenty of

1:10:40.200 --> 1:10:46.400
<v Speaker 1>other people can figure out how to do it. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me see if there's this is the Brightbart story on this.

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<v Speaker 1>For years we were told we keep our plan, keep

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<v Speaker 1>our doctor premiums, we go down. None of it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>New report confirms what we already knew. Under Obamacare, hardworking

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<v Speaker 1>Americans saw their premium skyrocket, health care choices shrink, all

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<v Speaker 1>while fraud benefited insurance companies. Obamacare was built on lies

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<v Speaker 1>and broken promises that hurt families and drove up costs.

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<v Speaker 1>Or Jordan said in a statement to Breitbart. While Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>defend waste, fraud, and abuse, Republicans are taking action to

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<v Speaker 1>lower health care costs protect care for all real living Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>The GAO report is troubling smoking gun shows how this

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<v Speaker 1>broken system, shielded by Democrat policies, has led to the

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<v Speaker 1>federal government shoveling tens of billions of tax dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>insurance companies through identity fraud and calls healthcare costs a

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<v Speaker 1>skyrocket for all Americans. The GAO report found fifty eight

1:11:55.320 --> 1:12:02.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand social Security numbers that received the APTC. These tax

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<v Speaker 1>credits matched Social Security Administration's deaf data, So that's fifty

1:12:08.479 --> 1:12:13.880
<v Speaker 1>eight thousand people who were dead. We're getting these subsidies

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<v Speaker 1>and ripping off Obamacare. Seven thousand people had Social Security

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<v Speaker 1>numbers that were dead before coverage began, meaning the applications

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<v Speaker 1>used social Security numbers of dead people. Ninety four million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in tax credits was sent to a health sent

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<v Speaker 1>to health insurers on behalf of deceased people. So just

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<v Speaker 1>that part of the scam, or one scam alone, ninety

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<v Speaker 1>four million dollars I know, ninety four million dollars dollars

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound like a lot. But that's only part, only

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<v Speaker 1>part of the ripoff that was going on through Obamacare,

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<v Speaker 1>and are talk about tens of billions of dollars. While

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<v Speaker 1>Obamacare fraud is being confirmed by the Government Accountability Office

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<v Speaker 1>and other outside reports, patients are suffering. They face higher

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<v Speaker 1>health care costs, denied claims, delayed care when their providers

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<v Speaker 1>struggle to verify which insurance is valid due to these

1:13:25.040 --> 1:13:33.760
<v Speaker 1>fraud schemes. So yeah, I mean all that crap from Obama,

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<v Speaker 1>and we talked about it at the time, that all

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<v Speaker 1>these promises he was making and the way Obamacare was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be set up, it couldn't work. And now

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<v Speaker 1>we're living that nightmare. Raphael, how are you doing tonight?

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<v Speaker 6>Pretty? I'm pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>Brother Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? You're getting off of work?

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<v Speaker 6>All right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Hopping in the car. And I caught the little

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<v Speaker 4>little kid big h you know, the Obamacare and then

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<v Speaker 4>fraud and Jim Jordans. I heard those three and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, oh boy, here was GoGet. Now what were

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<v Speaker 4>you reading from?

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<v Speaker 2>Dan? You did? Was that Breitbart?

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<v Speaker 4>Some for Breitbart?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Breitbart put this out there. The well, the government

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<v Speaker 1>accountability I've got the government Accountability report right here, but

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<v Speaker 1>Breitbart published the article based on this report. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when it comes to let me say this,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to Jim Jordan, when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Jordan, I agree with you. I laugh at that

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<v Speaker 1>because Jim Jordan is a little bit like like Lindsey Graham's.

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<v Speaker 1>Lindsey Graham has talked for years about how he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the bottom of this, that and the

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<v Speaker 1>other scandal and never does a damn thing. Jim Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>has been investigating crap up on Capitol Hill for how

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<v Speaker 1>many years now, and uh, I've never seen I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen one of his investigations resulting anyone being purple walked

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<v Speaker 1>of view.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought I saw Jim Jordan in the vault when

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<v Speaker 4>Heralda went down there and I composed the vault. I

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<v Speaker 4>think Jim Jeorde was down here. I remember seeing a

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<v Speaker 4>yellow tie. But anyway, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Talks a good game, but he's all talk. He's very

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<v Speaker 1>very slim on the action.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Jim Jeorde.

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<v Speaker 4>What could you say, but Dan, Now, when your boy

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<v Speaker 4>Elonna Khan Musk, when he was up there doing the

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<v Speaker 4>whole fraud check in and everything like that and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>going through the irs Rose and everything and getting his

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<v Speaker 4>two hundred and fifty million dollars back that he donated

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<v Speaker 4>to the campaign. But the must have stayed on board

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<v Speaker 4>to uncover this rampant fraud through Obama Care.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he said, I guess, I guess he didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to o'bobby. I mean he got to a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other fraud, so he claimed he.

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<v Speaker 4>Did, but I he was just getting his paybag. Then

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<v Speaker 4>when from the money he donated Campaig, he just wined Darry.

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<v Speaker 4>He got all that back, and then he said, okay, guys,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm done. But now you know, I know you got

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<v Speaker 4>other callers too.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I got news coming up. But I saw

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<v Speaker 1>today that that they just recalculated Elon Musk's net worth

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like in excess of six hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five billion dollars. So you know Whatay two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty mili to him, that doesn't mean crap.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I have to drop in the bucket, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I have to play a power.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you got six that out there, but uh Rafael,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta run. I appreciate the phone.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, hey, hey Dan, when I talk to you again.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to tell me about this land grab in Venezuela,

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<v Speaker 4>like we got to get the land. That's what I

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<v Speaker 4>heard Don John say. But we'll talk about that another day,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, Raphael.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the appreciate you listening. Appreciate the phone call.

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<v Speaker 1>Eleven twenty six, one hundred WIW seven hundred WILW eleven

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven, Dan Carroll till midnight tonight. Phone lines are

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<v Speaker 1>open five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, one

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<v Speaker 1>to eight hundred. The big one. The state of California

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<v Speaker 1>issuing the Trump administration. The Department of Transportation is withholding

1:17:24.000 --> 1:17:28.000
<v Speaker 1>thirty three million dollars in federal funds. The funding was

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<v Speaker 1>tied to commercial vehicle safety programs in the state's decision

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<v Speaker 1>not to comply with federal English proficiency requirements for truck drivers.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have seen just one horror story after another

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<v Speaker 1>in recent months of illegal aliens who come into the country,

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<v Speaker 1>go to California or other states and obtain a commercial

1:17:57.680 --> 1:18:02.120
<v Speaker 1>driver's license, and they're not able to speak English, and

1:18:02.160 --> 1:18:06.880
<v Speaker 1>they cause all kinds of murder in Mayhem out on

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<v Speaker 1>the highways. In May, the Department of Transportation reinstated the

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<v Speaker 1>English language rule for commercial drivers. Is there anything that

1:18:19.360 --> 1:18:22.080
<v Speaker 1>you can think of that is more common sense than that?

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<v Speaker 1>If individuals are going to be driving big rigs around

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<v Speaker 1>this country, should they not be able to read, understand,

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<v Speaker 1>and speak English. It just seems like the one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most common sense things that I can think of.

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<v Speaker 1>But yet California, Pennsylvania, and New York they don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Those other states have all been warned by the DOT

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<v Speaker 1>about the potential for losing federal funds if they fail

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<v Speaker 1>to address issues with CDLs. The Department of Transportation Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Duffy defended the move to take that money away

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<v Speaker 1>from California. He says over nine five hundred truck drivers

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<v Speaker 1>were removed from service since May for failing English proficiency checks.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about that. Think about all the big rigs that

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<v Speaker 1>you pass up on a daily basis when you're driving around.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're listening to me on the radio right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you may be just feed away from a big rigs.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that drivery illegal? Does that driver speak English? Does

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<v Speaker 1>that driver know what they're doing? Department of Homeland Security

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<v Speaker 1>put this press release out today today yet another avoidable

1:19:41.120 --> 1:19:47.280
<v Speaker 1>tragedy caused by the Biden administration and sanctuary policies. The

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<v Speaker 1>illegal alien who couldn't speak English causes deadly multi vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>pile up in Tennessee under Biden era work authorization. The

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Homeland Secure Department of Transportation announced that an

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<v Speaker 1>American was tragically killed due to a Chinese national with

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<v Speaker 1>a commercial driver's license who failed the English proficiency test.

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<v Speaker 1>After the crash on Tuesday, December ninth, this dude Huong

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<v Speaker 1>h U A and g rear ended a semi tractor

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<v Speaker 1>trailer on I forty going westbound. How many times I've

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<v Speaker 1>driven on that stretch of Highway I forty through Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 1>causing a chain reaction crash that led to the death

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<v Speaker 1>of Carrie Smith injuring two others long This Chinese national

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<v Speaker 1>was distracted by a video on his phone at the

1:20:44.200 --> 1:20:52.040
<v Speaker 1>time of the crash. So you can find one of

1:20:52.040 --> 1:20:58.880
<v Speaker 1>these stories almost every single day, and at least they're

1:20:58.920 --> 1:21:02.479
<v Speaker 1>doing something to try and shut it down. Over at

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<v Speaker 1>NewsBusters dot Org, my buddy Curtis Halkin, other members on

1:21:08.160 --> 1:21:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the staff, Bro David Brosel, Brett Baker. Over at MRC NewsBusters,

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<v Speaker 1>they've come up with their worst quote of the year

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<v Speaker 1>and the worst quote of the year goes to Matthew

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<v Speaker 1>Dowd And this was Matthew Dowd in the immediate aftermath

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<v Speaker 1>of the Charlie Kirk shooting. And for this he was

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<v Speaker 1>fired from MSNBC, which I think it's called ms now,

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<v Speaker 1>but here it is the worst quote of the year. Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>let's hear cut number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and again emphasize what you just emphasized.

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<v Speaker 8>We don't know any of the details of this that

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<v Speaker 8>we don't know if this was a supporter shooting their

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<v Speaker 8>gun off in celebration or.

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<v Speaker 2>So, we have no idea about this.

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<v Speaker 8>But following up what was just said, he's been one

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<v Speaker 8>of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this

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<v Speaker 8>who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate

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<v Speaker 8>speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I

1:22:11.720 --> 1:22:17.040
<v Speaker 8>always go back to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words,

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<v Speaker 8>which then lead to hateful actions. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 8>the environment we're in that people just you can't stop

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<v Speaker 8>with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then

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<v Speaker 8>saying these awful words and not expect awful actions to

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<v Speaker 8>take place.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the unfortunate environment we're in. Turning point you

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<v Speaker 2>to say, is confirmed that he was shot.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, there's Matthew Dowd. His initial thought was

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<v Speaker 1>that the best thing he could conjure up was that

1:22:46.680 --> 1:22:48.680
<v Speaker 1>this guy might have brought it on himself, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just so hateful, just so hateful. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>the according to NewsBusters, the worst quote of the year

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<v Speaker 1>over who gets their Joe Joe Waddell, do you get

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<v Speaker 1>your news from Apple News? Who gets their news from

1:23:10.360 --> 1:23:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anyone that gets news from Apple News.

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<v Speaker 1>But they have done a study of Apple News and

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<v Speaker 1>it shows only one right leaning outlet out of five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty articles through November, Apple News is direct

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<v Speaker 1>content of its top stories exposed as the platform's bias,

1:23:35.600 --> 1:23:39.800
<v Speaker 1>especially since only one of the they examined five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty articles. They examined five hundred and sixty articles

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<v Speaker 1>in November, and they only had one that came from

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<v Speaker 1>a right leaning source. So Apple News, I guess, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it's an aggregate site. I don't know. I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't think I've ever looked. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where I would find Apple News, but their bias

1:24:07.000 --> 1:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>is showing Katie Pavlich. If you're like me, you know

1:24:12.040 --> 1:24:15.200
<v Speaker 1>who Katie Pavlich is. It's been on Fox News for

1:24:15.240 --> 1:24:18.640
<v Speaker 1>a while. He's a great writer, a great guest, a

1:24:18.680 --> 1:24:22.800
<v Speaker 1>great American. She is leaving Fox News. She is getting

1:24:22.840 --> 1:24:28.599
<v Speaker 1>a new gig at NewsNation. Pavlich will host a new

1:24:28.640 --> 1:24:33.360
<v Speaker 1>show over there at ten pm beginning weekdays beginning in

1:24:33.400 --> 1:24:37.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six. The new gig marks our first primetime

1:24:37.800 --> 1:24:42.440
<v Speaker 1>hosting role. She worked at Townhall dot Com for sixteen

1:24:42.560 --> 1:24:48.080
<v Speaker 1>years and has been appearing on Fox News as a

1:24:48.120 --> 1:24:52.160
<v Speaker 1>contributor since twenty thirteen. And James always does a great job,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think she's going to be great over there

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<v Speaker 1>at at NewsNation. Fox News confirmed to The Daily Caller

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<v Speaker 1>the Pablich is no longer a contributor to the network.

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<v Speaker 1>Appeared as a frequent guest host on the five other

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<v Speaker 1>primetime shows. Sean Compton, the president of NewsNation, said Pablich

1:25:15.320 --> 1:25:18.439
<v Speaker 1>has a unique voice, and he is a tremendous asset

1:25:20.080 --> 1:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>to the network. So she's going to do an hour

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<v Speaker 1>of political news on NewsNation. So congratulations to her. Eric

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<v Speaker 1>Swalwell is I mean, he is a He's out there

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<v Speaker 1>on social media. I see a lot of the stuff

1:25:40.720 --> 1:25:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that he posts, and he's very self righteous. He hates Trump.

1:25:48.720 --> 1:25:51.760
<v Speaker 1>He thinks he's right about everything that he puts out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and he I mean, the guy has no self awareness whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a survey that has been done of how

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<v Speaker 1>many votes these individuals cast, and it turns out that

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat Representative Eric swalwere Swalwell Swalwell, I guess he's also

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<v Speaker 1>running for governor now in California, has skipped more House

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<v Speaker 1>votes than any active member of Concress, according to data

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<v Speaker 1>analyzed by The New York Post. Since launching his campaign,

1:26:32.040 --> 1:26:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Swalwell has reportedly been rarely seen in Washington, DC. According

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<v Speaker 1>to the Sacramento b Voting records collected by the nonpartisan

1:26:41.840 --> 1:26:44.519
<v Speaker 1>website gov track show that of the three hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty two House roll call votes in twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>Swalwell missed ninety five since January, not including absences from

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<v Speaker 1>committee hearings. By comparison, Swamwell missed more than or more

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<v Speaker 1>votes than a fellow California Democrat Rep. Nancy Pelosi, who

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<v Speaker 1>suffered a hip injury after a fall. In December. NBC

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<v Speaker 1>first reported, Oh, well, I don't care about that, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Swalwell. Government track shows Swalwell has missed fifty of

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one roll call votes, which is eighty two percent,

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<v Speaker 1>between September nineteenth through this last Tuesday, I'm sorry, Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>November eighteenth. Overall data from gov Track shows Swalwell has

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<v Speaker 1>missed more than five hundred and fifty votes out of

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<v Speaker 1>seven two hundred and fifty three since entering Congress. While

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<v Speaker 1>the average House member misses about two point one percent

1:27:54.520 --> 1:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>of votes, Swalwell is missing seven point seven percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the votes, more than anyone else in Congress. So congratulations,

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<v Speaker 1>Eric's Walwell. At least you are a a leader in something.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm watching I'm watching the news yesterday and

1:28:14.080 --> 1:28:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm flipping around, and all they could talk about on

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<v Speaker 1>CNN or MS now was this story that showed up

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<v Speaker 1>in Vanity Fair. They did, they did a a a

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<v Speaker 1>profile piece on White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles

1:28:35.560 --> 1:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and I and and they were still doing it today

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<v Speaker 1>but all day, and I made it a point. I

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<v Speaker 1>was getting ready for the show, and when I I

1:28:46.200 --> 1:28:47.800
<v Speaker 1>wasn't in front of the TV all day, but when

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<v Speaker 1>but when the one hour would come up, there I

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<v Speaker 1>would I would check and see what they were leading

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<v Speaker 1>with on CNN and MSNBC. Susie Wiles, Susie Wilds, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>she she gave some quotes to Vanity Fair magazine and

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<v Speaker 1>and they were just I mean, look it, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she said. Some of the stuff she said

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<v Speaker 1>is uh, I mean, it's it's interesting. And and she

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<v Speaker 1>she made she had the one coming. Look, they took

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<v Speaker 1>so many of these quotes out of context. And the

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<v Speaker 1>one about Trump had she said alcoholic personality. She was

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<v Speaker 1>comparing a Trump too, or she was actually talking about

1:29:35.000 --> 1:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>her father at the time. It was Pat Summerl And

1:29:38.280 --> 1:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess he was a drinker, and she talked about

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<v Speaker 1>how he was an alcoholic. And you know, they're so driven.

1:29:46.200 --> 1:29:48.519
<v Speaker 1>I guess that the personality is and and so they talked.

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<v Speaker 1>She talked about that. She said some things about Gadie Vance,

1:29:51.040 --> 1:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>and she said some things about Elon Musk. And of

1:29:55.280 --> 1:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>course they love all this palace intrigue, and they love

1:29:57.920 --> 1:30:03.879
<v Speaker 1>to take these things and take them out of context

1:30:03.920 --> 1:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>themselves and act as if the Trump White House is

1:30:07.400 --> 1:30:17.880
<v Speaker 1>completely out of control. So Peter Navarro, who's a buddy

1:30:17.920 --> 1:30:22.479
<v Speaker 1>of President Trump's, wrote a great piece about the two

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the Vanity Hit piece on Susie Wiles. He says,

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<v Speaker 1>the Susie Wiles profiles are non journalists. They're a case

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<v Speaker 1>study in how legacy media manufactures menutce by stitching conjecture

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<v Speaker 1>to caricature, insinuation to Indian innuendo, and then calling the

1:30:40.200 --> 1:30:45.960
<v Speaker 1>resulting resulting collage and exclusive. And he calls it vanity hit,

1:30:46.040 --> 1:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>not vanity fair. He says, what Vanity Hit delivered across

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<v Speaker 1>these two installments is not an investigation grounded in evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>but a prolonged exercise in narrative escalation that is irresponsible, misleading,

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<v Speaker 1>and dangerous. The method is consistent from the opening line

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<v Speaker 1>to the final paragraph. The reader is primed to fear

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<v Speaker 1>before being asked to think. Power in peril is not

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<v Speaker 1>a neutral frame, It's a verdict rendered in advance from there.

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<v Speaker 1>The piece deployed of the piece is deploy of familiar

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<v Speaker 1>arsenal adjectives standing in for proof, brutal, sketchy, chaotic, anonymous,

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<v Speaker 1>consensus replacing sourcing many have called critics say and hypothetical

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<v Speaker 1>elevated to headline status. This is not how facts are established,

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<v Speaker 1>it's how outrage is curated. Across both parts vanity, hit

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<v Speaker 1>repeatedly insinuates illegally without doing the work of demonstration. Immigration

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement is described in language designed to shock, snatching, brutal

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<v Speaker 1>despite court orders. These are all words that were contained

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<v Speaker 1>within the article without cases, files, warrant, docket number, timelines,

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<v Speaker 1>chain of command. If there was court defiance, cite the order.

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<v Speaker 1>If there was violations, show the remedy. Instead, readers are

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<v Speaker 1>offered a mood, not a record. That approach does not inform,

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<v Speaker 1>it in flames. The most reckless choice is the flirtation

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<v Speaker 1>with accusations of war crimes. Both pieces lean into overheated

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<v Speaker 1>rhetoric about interdictions and lethal force, quoting secondhand claims and

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<v Speaker 1>then retreating behind journalistic hedges possible and may have called.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not caution, It is evasion. Allegations of war

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<v Speaker 1>crimes carry extraordinary moral and legal gravity. To air them

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<v Speaker 1>without adjudication, evidence, or authoritative finding is not courage. Its negligence.

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<v Speaker 1>Equally corrosive is the casual use of historically incendiary analogies

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<v Speaker 1>reich Tag imagery, authoritarian trope, guardrails of democracy languages are

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<v Speaker 1>deployed not to clarify, but to terrify. These analogies, collapse

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<v Speaker 1>context to raise distinctions, and act as accelerants in a

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<v Speaker 1>politicized society. Such rhetoric does not cool tensions. It licenses

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<v Speaker 1>the belief that ordinary politics is an existential emergency. History

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<v Speaker 1>teachers where that road leads. When policy analyzes analysis falters,

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<v Speaker 1>vanity hit pivots to personalization, readers are treated to amateur psychology,

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<v Speaker 1>gossip and mockery, claims about impulse, stamina, dozing, and meetings

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<v Speaker 1>and tone abroad. These are not arguments. There are shortcuts

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<v Speaker 1>around evidence. If policies are wrong, argue the policies, if

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<v Speaker 1>the outcomes failed, show the data. Instead. Authority is delegitimized

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<v Speaker 1>by ridicule. The Epstein sectionist in part two of the

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<v Speaker 1>article is emblematic. There's no new evidence, no finding of wrongdoing,

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<v Speaker 1>no adjudication, only the implication of proximity bi proximity and

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<v Speaker 1>disappointment by rumor optics replace facts. Journalism becomes a parlor game.

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<v Speaker 1>Who appears in a file, Who flew where? Who feels

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<v Speaker 1>let down? Suspicion is allowed to linger because it serves

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<v Speaker 1>the narrative, and it goes on. But that's all I've

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<v Speaker 1>got time for right now. But Peter Navarro just nails it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he talks about the tools of the trade and

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<v Speaker 1>the media. The suspect the left, the agenda driven media

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<v Speaker 1>fell for it, hook line and sinker. So I find

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<v Speaker 1>that Peter Navarro piece in the Washington Times and read

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<v Speaker 1>it and is really well written. Now that's it for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to get out of here. I am back tomorrow.

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