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Speaker 1: Right back on the Big One seven hundred WLW nine

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Speaker 1: thirty five, Dan Carroll till midnight tonight. It is the

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Speaker 1: Wednesday night edition of the Midweek Crisis. Great night for

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Speaker 1: the UC Bearcats as they get the better of Alabama State.

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Speaker 1: Not a great night for the Zabor Musketeers as they

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Speaker 1: fall to Creighton by forty one. Forty one point loss

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Speaker 1: for the Xavier Musketeers, and I thought they had things

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Speaker 1: can get them back on track. In the meantime, while

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Speaker 1: the UC basketball was game was going on, President Trump

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Speaker 1: made an address to the nation, and an address it

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Speaker 1: only lasted eighteen minutes. If someone would have had me

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Speaker 1: wager ahead of time, I would have wagered that this

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Speaker 1: address would have gone way over eighteen minutes. And Daniel Turner,

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Speaker 1: a power of the future, is here to is here

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Speaker 1: to analyze what Trump had to say tonight. Daniel Turner,

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Speaker 1: are you surprised it was only eighteen minutes?

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Speaker 2: That I am.

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Speaker 3: That's you know, considering this is.

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Speaker 2: Prime time and when the President asks for this coveted slot,

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Speaker 2: I saw them say, you know, they they they preempted

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Speaker 2: this season finale of survivor or something. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is a coveted Yeah, this is a coveted slot. And and.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think it was a very impassionate speech.

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Speaker 2: It was definitely brief, a lot of charts which I

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Speaker 2: thought were interesting. We don't usually see presidents have visual aids,

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Speaker 2: but I my general takeaway is I could sense the

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Speaker 2: president's tremendous frustration that that not for credit, right, but

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Speaker 2: frustration that that we forget about how bad things were

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Speaker 2: and where we were as a country just a year ago. Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, the border alone could be a whole hour

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Speaker 2: conversation with you, Dan, But but but on energy, on

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Speaker 2: just a plethora of issue. Not long ago, we had

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Speaker 2: by twenty thirty. Yeah. Right, there was a lot of

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Speaker 2: stuff that the President inherited, and I think there was

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Speaker 2: a sense of frustration that, yes, everything is not perfect,

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Speaker 2: been eleven months. Stick with me because we're headed in

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Speaker 2: the right direction.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think if he's in I think they've pretty

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Speaker 1: much said what their game plan is going to be

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Speaker 1: from here on out going into the midterms, and they

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Speaker 1: are going to talk about the economy and economic issues

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Speaker 1: and why Trump is better for the economy and that's

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Speaker 1: why we need to hold the Republicans need to hold

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Speaker 1: wage games and how wages are now rising faster than inflation.

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Speaker 1: That struck me Daniel Turner as an area where I

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Speaker 1: that is something that is demonstrable. It is something that

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Speaker 1: they they're making more money in that right now, and

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Speaker 1: it's that it's not immediately going out of their pocket

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Speaker 1: because inflation is taking such a big bite out of

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, And I think when you add

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Speaker 2: Obama said, everyone has to go to college. We're going

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Speaker 3: To do so. But we only have so many seats

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Speaker 2: And we have a president who is a supply sider,

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Speaker 3: Well, of course, prices went through the roof as a result.

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Speaker 2: So the president has a lot on his plate, and

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Speaker 1: Well. Towards the end, he said an economic boom is

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Speaker 2: I have a lot of reason to be optimistic for

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Speaker 2: I am fairly optimistic. Most of the tax provisions, the

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Speaker 2: and then they're even unifying things. The President mentioned our

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Speaker 2: create tension and frustration. They're looking for a George Floyd incident, right,

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Speaker 2: They thrive in chaos. But there's a lot that could

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Speaker 3: For the because their life is fine, and that's the

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Speaker 3: way it should be.

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Speaker 2: We shouldn't be vesting all of our effort into who

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Speaker 3: The way our founders envisioned.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. I think there was a

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Speaker 1: Early next year he's going to introduce new Chairman of

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Speaker 2: May ask for Jerome's power resignation a little sooner than

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Speaker 3: No, you know, think of how many obstacles he has.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he had a fire that the head of

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Speaker 2: What he is doing with President tup is doing with

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Speaker 3: Right, that's what we should be doing.

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Speaker 1: he I think this is a brilliant move where he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you make out of what's happening with

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Speaker 2: I honestly think this is a China play. Eighty five

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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, you know what, I think that that analysis

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Speaker 2: You poor forge stockholders?

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Speaker 2: They forced it down Ford's throat and look at the result. Chaos,

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Speaker 2: pure chaos. Yep, huge loss for Ford. Daniel Turner, as always, man,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the time, I appreciate you being here and

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Speaker 1: How about that.

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Speaker 2: I would love to Dan anytime, but if not, Merry

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Speaker 2: Christmas to you and your listeners.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Bratan, Thank.

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Speaker 1: You, Daniel. All the best to you and yours too,

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Speaker 1: my friend. I appreciate that. Daniel Turner Power the Future,

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Speaker 1: great website. I check it out all the time if

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Speaker 1: It's just great stuff. Nine fifty four. We got to

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Speaker 1: midnight tonight. Dan Carroll in the Wednesday night edition of

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Speaker 1: The Midweek Crisis on seven hundred WLW, seven hundred WLW,

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Speaker 1: the Big Board in the seven hundred WLW Command Center.

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Speaker 1: four nine, seven, eight hundred, the Big One, talking about

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Speaker 1: He normally goes longer than that. Look, I'm I'm eighteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: I'm perfectly fine with that. I think that is if

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Speaker 5: Hey, Dan, I don't disagree with anything of the eighteen minutes,

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Speaker 1: that happen. It's going to be interesting to see how

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Speaker 1: much liberty he's at to be able to speak frankly

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Speaker 1: about his time as deputy director of the FBI. But

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Speaker 1: and when the time comes when he's able to tell

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Speaker 1: that story, I think it's going to be worth listening to.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, if my opinion, there's a huge question

443
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Speaker 5: mark that hangs over to head of this whole thing.

444
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Speaker 5: And I know that, Yeah, I used to listen to

445
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Speaker 5: his radio program, so I give him stack, you know,

446
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Speaker 5: put stack in his integrity part of it. So there's

447
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Speaker 5: something that really looms large and uh behind the scenes

448
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Speaker 5: on this whole thing. So I guess kind of like

449
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Speaker 5: what you're alluding to, we're going to get to see

450
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Speaker 5: how this whole thing pans out. But even as a

451
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Speaker 5: whole I think our Department of Justice again beyond the end,

452
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Speaker 5: you know, we failed with the Obama treaton thing, and

453
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Speaker 5: I don't know where we're going to go with this

454
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Speaker 5: COMI thing. But if we can't come up with convictions

455
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Speaker 5: and the Department of Justice. And again, maybe there's where

456
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Speaker 5: I'm putting my finger on this thing. Maybe he's just

457
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Speaker 5: frustrated he's not gain in any ground with you know,

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Speaker 5: like like I said, with convicting any of these people.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it is, Maybe it is a sense of frustration.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it is he's just putting his throwing his hands

461
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Speaker 1: up because he's not he sees a clear direction and

462
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Speaker 1: he's for whatever reason, not able to follow that. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you know, again, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how candid he's going to be able to be when

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Speaker 1: when he steps away, and I'm guessing he's going to

466
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Speaker 1: go back to doing all the media stuff he was

467
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Speaker 1: doing before, which I think will be great, and he'll

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Speaker 1: he'll have, uh, he'll have a lot to talk about,

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Mark. I appreciate the I appreciate

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Speaker 1: the phone call tonight.

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Speaker 2: Mark, thank you, thank you, thank.

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Speaker 1: You very much. And you know, I mean everything he's saying.

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Speaker 1: It It goes to the trust that we have in

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Speaker 1: these institutions. And why do we question what the FBI,

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Speaker 1: what the Department of Justice, what investigators are saying about

476
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Speaker 1: what happened with the with the pipe bomber. Why Why?

477
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Speaker 1: Because for so long the FBI let itself be compromised

478
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Speaker 1: and weaponized and let itself be controlled by political forces.

479
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Speaker 1: And a story that came out a day or so ago,

480
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Speaker 1: and this was John Solomon, just the news. As the

481
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Speaker 1: FBI raised doubts that a search warrant for Donald Trump's

482
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Speaker 1: Florida estate met probable call standards, the Justice Department under

483
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, pushed to expand their search's scope, refused to

484
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Speaker 1: cooperate with Trump's attorney, and discounted the agent's concern about

485
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Speaker 1: the optics of the raid. According to new emails turned

486
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Speaker 1: over to Congress, the new evidence at surface may have

487
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Speaker 1: more than political impact, As a top congressman warns, it

488
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Speaker 1: may give Trump calls to sue for civil liberty violations

489
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Speaker 1: or prompt prosecutor years to pursue a criminal investigation. This

490
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Speaker 1: is going to go down as a dark chapter in

491
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Speaker 1: American history, and President Trump may have recourse now to

492
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Speaker 1: be able to see damages at some point in time,

493
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Speaker 1: said Representative Tom Tiffany of Wisconsin. The new emails were

494
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Speaker 1: turned over to Congress after Attorney General Pam Bondi and

495
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Speaker 1: the FBI director Cash Bettel, declassified them. They show that

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Speaker 1: the Summer raid that the FBI in the summer of

497
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two raised repeated objections to raiding Trump's Mar

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Speaker 1: A Lago home in Florida, expressed doubt that there was

499
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Speaker 1: sufficient probable cause to believe the then former president had broken

500
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Speaker 1: the law in handling classified documents. The memos also show

501
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Speaker 1: that the bureau's Washington Field office and its agents were

502
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Speaker 1: pead tried to find alternative solutions to a contentious rate

503
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Speaker 1: of the property, including having a reasonable conversation with Trump

504
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Speaker 1: lawyers and limiting the search the search warrant to avoid

505
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Speaker 1: private areas of the estate. However, the Biden era Justice

506
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Speaker 1: Department brushed aside these suggestions, expanding both the scope of

507
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Speaker 1: the warrant and refusing any further discussion with Trump's personal lawyer.

508
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Speaker 1: And so they've got the email documents to show this

509
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Speaker 1: is exactly how it was all going down. So you know,

510
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Speaker 1: they want to hold their hands up and say, wow,

511
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Speaker 1: we didn't have anything to do with this, It was

512
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Speaker 1: all on the up and up. Well, no, we we

513
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Speaker 1: knew it wasn't from the very beginning, and we knew

514
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Speaker 1: that there were those in the FBI. I mean, thank

515
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Speaker 1: god that said we this, this is wrong. We don't

516
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Speaker 1: have the evidence does not support this idea of rating

517
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Speaker 1: mar A Lago. But the Justice Department, who the FBI

518
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Speaker 1: answers to, and I guess you know, the FBI leadership

519
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Speaker 1: at the time, it didn't have enough wherewithal to be

520
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Speaker 1: able to shut this down. That and and and and

521
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Speaker 1: the idea that they wouldn't speak with Trump lawyers, the

522
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Speaker 1: idea that they wouldn't say, look, we've got a problem here,

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Speaker 1: we need to get this worked out for a former

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Speaker 1: president of the United States. Because I remember talking about

525
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Speaker 1: this at the time that that was typically the way

526
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Speaker 1: that these things were handled, that the lawyers get to

527
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Speaker 1: If the Justice Department has an issue with something, you

528
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Speaker 1: contact the lawyers, you figure things out. You don't go

529
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Speaker 1: in raid the home, start rooting through the underwear drawers

530
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Speaker 1: of Malani and Trump, and raided in the bedrooms of

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Speaker 1: Trump's son. The memos also show the bureau's Washington Field

532
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Speaker 1: office and its agents repeatedly tried to find alternative solutions

533
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Speaker 1: to the contentious raid. The Justice Department originally wrote the

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Speaker 1: Trump's lawyers on May eleventh of twenty twenty two, requesting

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Speaker 1: that the former president return all classified documents in his possession.

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Speaker 1: The deadline was set for May twenty fourth, but after

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Speaker 1: the deadline passed, the attorney wrote back, claiming the Justice

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Speaker 1: Department had said that the deadline was flexible. The Justice

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Speaker 1: Department said there would be no extension. In response, the

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Speaker 1: attorney said the Justice Department would either have to compel

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Speaker 1: compliance or try to reach an accommodation. The FBI believed

542
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Speaker 1: that was entirely reasonable to try and reach an agreement

543
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Speaker 1: with Trump's lawyers for the return of the documents. So

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Speaker 1: there was huge disagreement in there. But again, the people

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Speaker 1: who were in charge, the people who make the decisions,

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Speaker 1: the people who answered to Joe Biden and Joe Biden's

547
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Speaker 1: top people, they were the ones who said no. They

548
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Speaker 1: were the ones who, according to these emails, made the

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Speaker 1: call and said that we were going in. I don't

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Speaker 1: care what the Field Office says. Let me think about that.

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Speaker 1: And this is all coming to light now, and there's

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Speaker 1: a lot more this kind of stuff that's been going

553
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Speaker 1: on that that we've known about for a long time,

554
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Speaker 1: and so we keep having the politicization of these different

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Speaker 1: institutions and these the I mean, it just it pains

556
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Speaker 1: me to say and I've and i've I've made this

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Speaker 1: clear that the the FBI this one great institution, and

558
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: cash Betel is I think he's doing what he can

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Speaker 1: to try and restore the dignity and try and restore

560
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Speaker 1: the trust that the FBI had for so many decades.

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Speaker 1: But that's a that that's a that's a big hill

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Speaker 1: to climb. And the way this thing in with Brown

563
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Speaker 1: University is being handled, I think most of that is

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Speaker 1: on the local cops and we'll we'll see what happens there.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Dan Bongino stepping away announced it today that

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Speaker 1: he was going to step down in January as deputy director.

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Speaker 1: I mean, really wasn't there all that long. I think

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Speaker 1: it's going to wind up being what seven eight months,

569
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Speaker 1: maybe nine months when it's all said and done. So

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see what he has. And I

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Speaker 1: saw the what he put on his X feed about

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Speaker 1: putting that out, and he just said to he thanks

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Speaker 1: to the President. And you know, it was very classy

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Speaker 1: about it. Didn't point fingers in anyone, nothing, nothing like that.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's had to stay tuned and see

576
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Speaker 1: what see what Bongina has to has to say about that.

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Speaker 1: The other thing I wanted to get into tonight was

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Speaker 1: Connie Pillage, the Hamilton County prosecutor. And she earlier a

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Speaker 1: few days ago, I think it was late. I think

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Speaker 1: it was Friday. Last week, she dismissed a murder case

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Speaker 1: from nineteen ninety five, and this was the capital murder

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Speaker 1: case against Elwood Jones. And she wrote that the decision

583
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Speaker 1: follows month's long review of evidence and court filings, which

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Speaker 1: reveals several issues, including a lack of physical or forensic

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Speaker 1: evidence linking Jones to the murder, modern medical testing that

586
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Speaker 1: excluded him as a suspect. And I've read as many

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Speaker 1: stories as I can about this. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: medical testing she's talking about. That's what she has said.

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Speaker 1: She has said that there is modern medical testing that

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Speaker 1: excludes this guy as the murderer of rote to Nathan.

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Speaker 1: Let's see here, you know, this was what's a date

592
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Speaker 1: on this? That doesn't matter, But Pillage announced the she

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Speaker 1: dismissed the nineteen ninety five capital murder case against Dulwood Jones.

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Speaker 1: Review was conducted in response to a twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: decision by Hamilton County Common please Court Judge Wendy Cross,

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Speaker 1: overturning the Jones conviction, granting him a new trial. The

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Speaker 1: previous prosecutor had appealed across his decision. On December fourth,

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Speaker 1: twenty five, the Highest Supreme Court affirmed the appeal. I

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Speaker 1: did not take this extraordinary step lightly, Pillage said, But

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Speaker 1: after reviewing the evidence, I'm not convinced that mister Jones

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Speaker 1: killed wrote to Nathan, and so so here's what she

602
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Speaker 1: threw in on this. Jones was convicted of the nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety four death of Nathan in the Blue Ash Motel

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Speaker 1: spent twenty seven years on death row. She said her

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Speaker 1: review addressed several critical issues. A lack of physical and

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Speaker 1: forensic evidence linking Jones directly to the murder, insufficient follow

607
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Speaker 1: up on multiple witness statements pointing to alternative suspects. Modern

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Speaker 1: day medical testing excludes Joan as a suspect, prior failure

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Speaker 1: of the prosecutor's office to provide the defense with a

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Speaker 1: large volume of investigatory material before trial. And so it

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Speaker 1: was that statement that got to our former Hamilton County prosecutor,

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Speaker 1: Joe Dieters, who is now on the bench of the

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Speaker 1: Ohio State Supreme Court. And so he wrote a letter

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Speaker 1: at Connie Pillage. And that letter is posted on the

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WIWX site, and if you want to read

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Speaker 1: it for yourself, I suggest you do. And he starts

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Speaker 1: the letter out saying that he is writing. He wants

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Speaker 1: to be clear about the capacity in which he's writing.

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Speaker 1: He's doing as the if so is the former prosecuting

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Speaker 1: attorney of Hamilton County as a citizen. And I covered

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Speaker 1: Joe Dieters for years when I was a reporter at

622
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Speaker 1: Fox nineteen, interviewed him, got to know him. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: we're not buddies. We're not we don't hang out, but

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Speaker 1: I got to know him a little bit. There was

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Speaker 1: never a hint of anything that was Joe Deeters did

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Speaker 1: everything in that office by the book. And trust me,

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Speaker 1: there are plenty of political opponents who would love if

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Speaker 1: they had the chance to take him down, if they

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Speaker 1: possibly could. I mean, he ran that office with the

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Speaker 1: highest amount of integrity. And he wrote a letter to

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Speaker 1: Connie Pillage and he wrote, I've watched the in full

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Speaker 1: of the press conference in which you dismissed the case

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Speaker 1: against Elwood Jones. During that conference, you publicly proclaimed that

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Speaker 1: Jones had been cleared of the murder of Miss Nathan,

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Speaker 1: asserting that your decision was based on modern day medical

636
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Speaker 1: testing that excluded Elwood Jones as a suspect. He then

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Speaker 1: went further. You publicly impugned the integrity of former members

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Speaker 1: of my office, suggesting they cheated, and falsely implied that

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Speaker 1: thousands of pages of evidence had been withheld from the defense.

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00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: You compounded these accusations by portraying your actions as a

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Speaker 1: necessary correction to alladge past miss conduct, invoking the creation

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Speaker 1: of a conviction integrity unit as justification. And that's another

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Speaker 1: thing that Connie Pillage has has going on here, but

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Speaker 1: we got to get I'm going to continue this on

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Speaker 1: the other side of the break the letter that Joe

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Speaker 1: Dieters wrote to Connie Pillage, and if you did not

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Speaker 1: listen to him earlier today as he and Mark Petemeyer

648
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Speaker 1: were on the Bill Cunningham Show, I suggest to go

649
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Speaker 1: back to the podcast and listen to that, because that

650
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: was a compelling thirty minutes of radio, the likes of

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Speaker 1: which you do not hear every day. So I highly

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Speaker 1: suggest that you go back and give that a listen,

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Speaker 1: but we'll continue on with this. Your phone calls as well.

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Speaker 1: Five one three, seven four nine The Big One Wednesday

655
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Speaker 1: night edition of the Midweek Crisis on seven hundred WLW. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: back on the Big One, seven hundred w l W

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Speaker 1: ten thirty seven We roll till midnight tonight, five three

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Speaker 1: hundred the Big One. I'm talking about Joe Dieters. He

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Speaker 1: was on the Bill Cunningham Show today responding to Connie Pillach,

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Speaker 1: who decided that look is she looked at it. She

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Speaker 1: looked at it. She decided that Elwood Jones didn't commit

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Speaker 1: this murder. Back in nineteen ninety four, of Ruugh wrote

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Speaker 1: a Nathan at the Embassy Suites in Blue ash.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: She her her job is to pursue justice. So Joe

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Speaker 1: Dieters wrote a letter to her. He was in You

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Speaker 1: heard a SoundBite from him on the during the news

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Speaker 1: to the bottom of the hour when he was on

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Speaker 1: with Cunningham earlier today and he he writes that he

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Speaker 1: talked about how he watched her entire news conference where

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Speaker 1: she dismissed the case. And then this is what really

672
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: upset Joe Deaders more than anything else. He says, you

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Speaker 1: went Further, speaking to Ms. Pillage, you publicly impugned the

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Speaker 1: integrity of former members of my office, suggesting they cheated,

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Speaker 1: and falsely implied that thousands of pages of evidence had

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Speaker 1: been withheld from the defense. You compounded these accusations by

677
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: portraying your actions as necessary corrective to allege past misconduct.

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00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: These assertions are not only outrageous, they are false, reckless,

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00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: and profoundly damaging. They constitute a gross disservice to the

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Speaker 1: people of Hamilton County and an unjustified attack on honorable

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Speaker 1: public servants. First, you claim that modern day medical testing

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00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: excluded Jones from the murder is demonstrably untrue. You stated

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Speaker 1: that because miss Nathan had hepatitis, Jones would necessarily have

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00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: contracted it had he been the perpetrator. Yet the defense's

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00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: own paid expert testified that there was only a thirty

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00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 1: three percent chance that Jones would have contracted hepatitis even

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Speaker 1: if he were the person who beat her to death.

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Speaker 1: A thirty three percent probability of transmission is not exclusion.

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Speaker 1: Either you do not understand the meaning of that term,

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Speaker 1: or you knowingly made a false statement or made a

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00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: statement that was patently false. Your reference to thousands of

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00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: pages withheld evidence is likewise a red herring. After the

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Speaker 1: defendant exhausted every available state appellate remedy, his council sought

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Speaker 1: additional records in federal court, specifically police runs to the

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00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: hotel and a questionnaire circulated by Blue Ash Police Department

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Speaker 1: to hotel guests. These materials contained no exculpatory evidence whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: They consisted of paper, nothing more, no facts, no forensic revelations,

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00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: no information that would have altered the outcome of the case.

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Speaker 1: The Federal District Court explicitly found that these materials would

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Speaker 1: not have affected jones conviction. The Sixth Circuit Court of

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Speaker 1: Appeals unanimously affirmed that conclusion. If you have not read

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Speaker 1: that opinion, you should have. The claim you advanced publicly

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Speaker 1: is baseless. I was a prosecutor ultimately responsible for the

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Speaker 1: decision to seek Jones's indictment. At no point did my

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Speaker 1: office cheat, as you so casually and irresponsibly allege. Mark

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Speaker 1: Petemeyer is among the most respected prosecutors in the history

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Speaker 1: of Ohio. Your statement about him and others were slanderous, unjustified,

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Speaker 1: and wrong. If you are committed to transparency, I suggest

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Speaker 1: you explain the following facts to the public. How many

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00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: individuals possessed a master key capable of opening the locked

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Speaker 1: door to rode to Nathan's hotel room that morning. The

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Speaker 1: answer is for how Jones sustained the infected wound to

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Speaker 1: his hand, an injury consistent only with striking a human mouth.

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Speaker 1: How the distinctive walkie talkie in Jones's possession the murder

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Speaker 1: weapon was supposedly used by someone else, a question never answered.

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Speaker 1: How Miss Nathan's unique piece of custom jewelry ended up

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Speaker 1: in the toolbox in the trunk of Jones's car, which

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Speaker 1: the defense claimed, without a shred of proof it was

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Speaker 1: planted by law enforcement. You also stated that Miss Nathan's

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Speaker 1: family was merely disappointed by your decision, that that characterization

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Speaker 1: borders on insulting. They are furious you may well have

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Speaker 1: violated Marcy's law in the manner in which this decision

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Speaker 1: was handled. Elwood Jones is no innocent victim of circumstance.

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Speaker 1: He's a career criminal with prior arrest for aggravated burglary,

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Speaker 1: assault on a police officer, multiple assaults on civilians, and

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00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: domestic violence. He served prison time for aggravated burglary and

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00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: was released on parole, committed another aggravated burglary and returned

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Speaker 1: to prison. You have chosen to release Jones after thirty

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Speaker 1: years of incarceration based on mercy or policy considerations. That

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Speaker 1: would have been your prerogative as an elected official. Reasonable

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Speaker 1: people could disagree, but it would have been within your authority.

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Speaker 1: What is unforgivable is attempting to justify that decision through

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Speaker 1: falsehoods and by maligning the reputation of dedicated public service

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Speaker 1: or public servants. I should say, you stated that you

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Speaker 1: struggled with this decision for months. If that is true,

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Speaker 1: why did you never once consult the prosecutor who litigated

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Speaker 1: this case for more than twenty five years. You spoke

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Speaker 1: with defense counsel and even sent them a screenshot of

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Speaker 1: your motion, yet you've never contacted me, not once. I'm

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Speaker 1: aware that you never tried a murder case. I do

741
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Speaker 1: not know whether anyone on your staff has ever served

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Speaker 1: as first chair in a death penalty prosecution. There is

743
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: no shame in seeking guidance or experience when confronting matters

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Speaker 1: of this gravity. I expected better judgment from you, respectfully,

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00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: Joseph ted Eaters and I don't know how you I

746
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: don't know how you say it better than that Ken

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Speaker 1: and Mason. What say you?

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Speaker 6: Dan, I'm very familiar with that case. I've known Choe

749
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 6: Dieters for almost sixty years. We played baseball together. As

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Speaker 6: he's one of the most outstanding human beings that's ever

751
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Speaker 6: lived on this earth, one of the most honorable men.

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Speaker 6: And pitt Meyer is one of the greatest prosecutors of

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Speaker 6: all time. And this was purely a political decision. Dan,

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Speaker 6: She's pleasing her voting block, That's all she's doing, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is Connie Pillich really need to enhance her

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Speaker 1: bona fides with the Justice Project or these other groups

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00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: that seek to uh, you know, release those from prison

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00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: who have been wrongfully convicted? Does does does she really?

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00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean, she's she won the office, she's the prosecutor.

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Speaker 1: Now does she really need to have this unit that's

761
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Speaker 1: going to go out and seek justice for all these

762
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Speaker 1: who are wrong? Is she going to continue to malign

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Speaker 1: the honesty and integrity of the work that Joe Dieters

764
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Speaker 1: did and Mark pete Meyer and others in that prosecutor's office.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I look when Joe Deeters, Joe Dieters bent

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Speaker 1: over backwards to ensure public integrity and public trust in

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Speaker 1: that office, in that hamlet, and it was probably the

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Speaker 1: finest prosecutor's office in the state of Ohio and probably

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Speaker 1: in the country during the time that he ran that office.

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Speaker 6: I Dan, you and I have as much experience as

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Speaker 6: Connie Phillish does trying cases in court. Yeah, she has none.

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Speaker 6: She has no experience of any kind in the statement

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Speaker 6: Joe made that the fact she never contacted Joe, she

774
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Speaker 6: never contacted Pittmeyer.

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Speaker 1: How do you not How do you not, even if,

776
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: even if you're on the other side, which she is on,

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00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: of the political aisle, How do you not have the

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00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: professional integrity to contact the prosecutors of that case and say, look,

779
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this, here's what I found. Tell me

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00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: where I'm wrong. How do you not challenge your own assertions?

781
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: How do you not challenge your own conclusions on a

782
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Speaker 1: case of this magnitude? Don't you want to be right

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Speaker 1: when you decide that someone who's convicted of murder, of

784
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Speaker 1: taking this woman away from her family, who is on

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00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: death row, and you're you know, tried by a jury

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Speaker 1: and all the courts of appeals, the district courts, all

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Speaker 1: these other courts that have looked at the during the

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00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: appellate process. Don't you want to be right if you

789
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: alone are going to make this decision. Don't you want

790
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: to have your theories tested and with stand scrutiny. But

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00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: apparently Connie Pillage did. She spoke to the fuse attornies

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00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: and never contacted Joe Dieters Ones. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: Well, Elwood Jones in his attorneys thought this for twenty

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00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 6: five years, Dan, and never were they able to get

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Speaker 6: anybody return reverse the decisions. The evidence was compelling, that

796
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 6: was overwhelming. You know, the man killed the lady, there's

797
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Speaker 6: no doubt about it. And the disservice they've done to

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Speaker 6: her family also, can't I can't imagine the anger and

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Speaker 6: the frustration they must be feeling. And Dan, as I said,

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Speaker 6: this is purely a political move on Connie Pillich's part,

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Speaker 6: that's all. It is a political move. She doesn't know

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00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 6: one iota of the case. Dan, I'm sure you know

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Speaker 6: ten times what she knows about this case with Elwood Jones.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I didn't. I didn't cover this case

805
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: back in the day, So I mean I know what

806
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: I read about it. I've heard Joe Deeters talk about

807
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Speaker 1: this case multiple times on the Cunningham Show. Mark Petemeyer

808
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: was on with in the Studio with Cunningham and Joe

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Speaker 1: Dieters today and all you have to do is listen

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Speaker 1: to them talk. And they are look, if if they

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Speaker 1: had a shred of doubt that this guy didn't do it,

812
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 1: then he would not be on death row today. And

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00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: and they they, I mean they they used every bit

814
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Speaker 1: of the forensic capabilities and the technology that they had

815
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Speaker 1: back in the mid nineties to see to it that

816
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 1: justice was done in this case. And then I saw

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00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: Colin and Connie Pillach on TV earlier today and she's

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Speaker 1: talking about, well if if someone goes to prison and

819
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Speaker 1: they didn't do it, well that's not justice for that

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00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: family either. Well, you know you're right about that. That's

821
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: a true statement. But to to not contact Pete Meyer

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Speaker 1: and not contact Joe Dieters on this, and and and

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Speaker 1: and at least challenge what they know on this, it's

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Speaker 1: a sin. It's a sinal weakness. It's terrible.

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Speaker 6: It's you know, this lady is going to turn out

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Speaker 6: to be a disaster.

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Speaker 2: Dan.

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Speaker 6: I've already heard comments stuff going on downtown that uh,

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Speaker 6: it appears a lot of people were unhappy with unequal

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Speaker 6: justice being applied in the courtrooms and Cincinnati right now,

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Speaker 6: you know, and uh once again, you know, her prosecutors

832
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Speaker 6: are catering to her voting block. It's just it's amazing.

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Speaker 6: And I think then we were all afraid that things

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Speaker 6: like this would happen, you know, they would turn justice

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Speaker 6: up on its up on its ear. I mean, we

836
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Speaker 6: have a completely democratic, you know, set of politicians now

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Speaker 6: downtown and this city it's in trouble, it really is.

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Speaker 6: And I mean, I Connie Pillage, I would wag your

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Speaker 6: guests Dan with you that ninety five percent of people

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Speaker 6: that voted for didn't know who she was. She just

841
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 6: tended to have a D by her name. You know,

842
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Speaker 6: they could have.

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Speaker 1: She's run, She's run for several different offices over the years.

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Speaker 1: I actually I interviewed her once when I was at

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Speaker 1: Fox nineteen and uh, I forget I think she might

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Speaker 1: have been running for state rep back at the time.

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Speaker 1: But uh, I found her extremely distasteful then, just based

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Speaker 1: on that one interaction that we have.

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Speaker 6: You know, I admire her service to the country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was country.

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Speaker 6: She served comtry and I admire for that, But she

852
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 6: has no legal background of any kind to run the

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Speaker 6: position she's in. You know, it's like, you know, me

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Speaker 6: going in and operating on someone's heart. God helped that

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Speaker 6: poor guy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, not a good idea.

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Speaker 6: That's kind of what she's doing. I know, as a prosecutor,

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Speaker 6: she's having people heading up the field of prosecution and

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Speaker 6: she has no idea what she's talking about, what she's doing.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'd like to be a fly on the

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Speaker 6: inside her wall when she's asking people, what is that?

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Speaker 6: What am I supposed to do? What is Marcy's law?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 6: What I mean? She probably is unaware of half the

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Speaker 6: stuff going through office on a daily basis. She's probably

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Speaker 6: had prosecutors that are teach her what's going on, and

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Speaker 6: she's supposed to be the leader.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's insane at the very least in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: She owes Joe Dieters and she owes Mark pete Meyer

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Speaker 1: a sincere apology for what she said about them, And

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Speaker 1: you know, this notion, it just it just is to me,

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Speaker 1: it is absolutely jaw dropping that she would not consult

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Speaker 1: with them on a decision of this magnitude This is

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Speaker 1: just absolutely draw. I mean, she's a prosecutor. They were

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Speaker 1: the prosecutor. I mean in that sense, are are Aren't

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Speaker 1: they on the same team? Are they? Are you telling

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Speaker 1: me that Joe, Joe Deaters was not interested in justice?

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Speaker 1: Are you you know? Are you telling me that that

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Speaker 1: Joe Dieters ran a slip shot operation at the Hamilton

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Speaker 1: County Prosecutor's office. I mean, remember when Tracy Hunter was

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Speaker 1: was going through her difficulties and she wound up the

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Speaker 1: court and what did he? What did Joe Deeters do?

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Speaker 1: He he went out and he got two of the

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Speaker 1: of the very best defense attorneys that he could find,

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Speaker 1: one one one day here in in Hamilton County, the

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Speaker 1: other one in Claremont County. And he got uh and uh.

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Speaker 1: He went and got these two defense attorneys to prosecute

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Speaker 1: the case. Defense attorneys he who had no skin in

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Speaker 1: the game, to make sure that the prosecution was above

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Speaker 1: board and honest as possible. That's the way Joe Dieters

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Speaker 1: ran his office. So I mean, I mean, you talk

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Speaker 1: about trust, you talk about integrity, you talk about high standards.

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Speaker 1: I think all those things are being compromised now under

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Speaker 1: the leadership of Connie.

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Speaker 6: Pillage Well, and that to get judge you're talking about

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Speaker 6: Tracy Hunter. She was truly mentally affected by something. She

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Speaker 6: was not all there and the things she did were

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Speaker 6: as bad as any judge it's ever been in Cincinnati ever.

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Speaker 6: I mean the way that the length she went to

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Speaker 6: free her brother of trouble was so criminally criminally corrupt.

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Speaker 6: I mean, and to this day, I imagine she's probably

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Speaker 6: in Connie Pilch's office every day trying to get completely

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Speaker 6: cleared of everything.

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Speaker 1: Well, it'll be interesting. It'll be interesting to see if

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Speaker 1: any local reporters, when they have a chance to talk

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Speaker 1: with Connie pillach Well, will challenge her with any of

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Speaker 1: the any other things that Joe Dieters had to say.

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Speaker 6: She'll have no comment, She won't address it, Dan, and

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Speaker 6: unfortunate and the media won't won't harass her about it either.

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Speaker 6: Bill Cunningham and you will be the only people in

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Speaker 6: town really speaking up against her.

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Speaker 1: Ken has always been we got to run. I always

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Speaker 1: appreciate you listening, and I appreciate you picking up the

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Speaker 1: fun Dan, great show Ken from Mason, Thank you very much. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so again comes to this conclusion. You know all these judges,

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Speaker 1: all these pullet processes, everyone who's reviewed this case for

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Speaker 1: twenty five years. Connie Pillach comes along says, you know what,

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Speaker 1: he didn't do it. You gonna dismiss the case. All good, unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: And while she's doing it, she takes a swipe at

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Speaker 1: two of the very best, if not the best, that

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Speaker 1: Hamilton County has ever seen. Ten fifty five. We got

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Speaker 1: to get to a break. More of your phone calls

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Speaker 1: coming up. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, one,

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Speaker 1: eight hundred, The Big One on seven hundred WLW. Back

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Speaker 1: on the Big One, seven hundred WLW eleven O seven.

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Speaker 1: We roll till midnight tonight. It is the Wednesday night

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Speaker 1: edition of the Midweek Crisis. Phone lines are open. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 1: seven thousand and one, eight hundred, the Big One, Come on.

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Speaker 1: Ala Harris is out there continuing the book tour and

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Speaker 1: going on any podcasts that'll have her. She's she's all

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Speaker 1: over the place, and now the reports are is that

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Speaker 1: she is laying the groundwork, laying the groundwork for another

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Speaker 1: run at being president of the United States. That's just fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five isn't even over yet and already they're

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Speaker 1: talking about who's going to be next, who's going to

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Speaker 1: who's going to be the candidate in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Axios reports that Harris has made has made clear to

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Speaker 1: potential twenty twenty eight rivals that she is working to

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Speaker 1: keep another White House campaign viable, even as concerns persist

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Speaker 1: among Democrat donors and party officials about her electoral prospects.

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Speaker 1: I mean, her electoral prospects back in the Uh the

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Speaker 1: early days of the twenty twenty four race were so

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Speaker 1: bad that she dropped out before the first primary. And

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Speaker 1: I saw a little, a little clip of this, uh,

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Speaker 1: this podcast she was on and I and the guy,

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Speaker 1: I forget exactly how he phrased the question, but he

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Speaker 1: essentially asked her if she was just really just a

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Speaker 1: DEEI hire. She got all indignant about that. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: absolutely not. Some people have have said that she was

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Speaker 1: the very best, the most qualified, most qualified person who

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Speaker 1: ever run for ever run for president. Absolutely amazing. Uh. I. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: there's a new poll out there that says Acasio Cortes

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Speaker 1: Alexandria Ocasio Cortes is ahead of jd Vance for twenty

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Speaker 1: two twenty eight hypothetical twenty twenty eight presidential race, Alexander

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Speaker 1: Alexandria Okazio Cortes beats Vice President j d Vance by

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Speaker 1: two points fifty one the forty nine percent. The New

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Speaker 1: York Democrat congresswoman known as aoc edges the likely Republican

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Speaker 1: nominee fifty one to forty nine percent. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on, the next race is until twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: How can you possibly how can you possibly have any

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Speaker 1: polls that there are no polls that mean anything right now.

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Speaker 1: So we were talking earlier tonight about Donald Trump speaking

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Speaker 1: to the nation. That was at nine o'clock Eastern time.

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Speaker 1: Right before that, though, the House of Representatives passed a

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Speaker 1: GOP healthcare bill without extending the enhanced COVID era Obamacare subsidies,

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Speaker 1: which are set to expire on January first. Mike Johnson

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Speaker 1: said Wednesday the bill will reduce premiums for all Americans

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Speaker 1: by an average of at least eleven percent, and that's

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Speaker 1: just the beginning. He said, there will be much more

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Speaker 1: to come, more ideas than the first part of next

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Speaker 1: year to bring down the cost of health care. And

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Speaker 1: what the bill did in addition to that, tonight, is

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Speaker 1: it increases the quality of care and access to care.

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Speaker 1: He further slammed Democrats for attempting to weaponize healthcare without

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Speaker 1: a real solution and continue to shovel taxpayer dollars onto

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Speaker 1: a broken system. So that begs the question, is Mike

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Speaker 1: Johnson telling the truth when he talks about this healthcare bill?

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Speaker 1: And you may recall the last time we debated a

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Speaker 1: healthcare bill, we had Obama NonStop talking about healthcare. And so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've heard the montages before. This is probably the most

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Speaker 1: complete one, and it's Obama and Obama and Obama, Obama

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Speaker 1: at the State of the Union, Obama campaign rallies, Obama

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Speaker 1: on television appearances, and if you've forgotten what that debate

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Speaker 1: was like when Obama was selling out selling Obamacare. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this montage is almost three minutes long, but it really

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Speaker 1: drives home this. This the way he sold this and

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Speaker 1: others around him, is why we are where we are

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Speaker 1: today on issue of health care and why I just

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01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: had to read that last story because of the constant

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Speaker 1: lines that Obama told about this and this is a

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Speaker 1: little refresher on what he was selling back in the day.

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Speaker 1: And Joe Wadell. Let's hear cut number two. We will

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Speaker 1: keep this promise to the American people.

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Speaker 7: If you like your doctor, you will be able to

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Speaker 7: keep your doctor period. If you like your healthcare plan,

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01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 7: you will be able to keep your health care plan period.

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01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 7: If you like your doctor or healthcare plan, you can

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Speaker 7: keep it. Nothing in this plan will require you or

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Speaker 7: your employer to change the coverage of the doctor you have.

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Speaker 7: The only change you'll see are falling costs as our

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Speaker 7: reforms take hold. If you like your healthcare system and

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01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 7: your doctor, the only thing reform will mean to you

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01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 7: is your healthcare will cause us less. I will not

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Speaker 7: sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits,

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01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 7: either now or in the future. It is a cost

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01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 7: that will not, I repeat, will not add to our deficits.

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Speaker 7: There will be a provision in this plan that requires

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Speaker 7: us to come forward with more spending cuts if the

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Speaker 7: savings we promised don't materialize. Because it is paid for

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Speaker 7: and curbs the waste and inefficiency in our healthcare system,

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01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 7: this bill will help reduce our deficit by as much

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Speaker 7: as one point three trillion dollars in the coming decades,

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Speaker 7: making it the largest deficit reduction plan in over a

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Speaker 7: decad well actually reduce the deficit by four trillion dollars

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Speaker 7: over the long term, healthcare reform must be and will

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Speaker 7: be deficit neutral in the next decade. We have built

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Speaker 7: in the law all sorts of measures that in the

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Speaker 7: years to come, health care inflation, which has been rising

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Speaker 7: about three times as fast as people's wages, is finally

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Speaker 7: going to start slowing down. Will eliminate way fraud and

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Speaker 7: abuse in our healthcare system, but will also take on

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Speaker 7: key causes of rising costs, saving billions while providing better

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Speaker 7: care to the American people. Reducing the waste and inefficiency

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Speaker 7: in Medicare and Medicaid will pay for most of this plan.

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Speaker 7: We've estimated that most of this plan can be paid

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Speaker 7: for by finding savings within the existing healthcare system. The

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Speaker 7: only thing this plan would eliminate is the hundreds of

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Speaker 7: billions of dollars in waste and fraud, as well as

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Speaker 7: unwarranted subsidies in Medicare that go to insurance companies subsidies

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Speaker 7: that do everything to pad their profits.

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Speaker 1: Will start reducing the.

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Speaker 7: Waste in the system for unnecessary tests to unwarranted insurance subsidies,

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Speaker 7: so that over time. Americans are going to save money.

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Speaker 7: Amilies will save on their premiums. Businesses that would see

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Speaker 7: their costs rise if we do not act will save

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Speaker 7: money now and they will save money in the future.

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Speaker 1: Save this gud. This goes on for about another minut

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Speaker 1: and a half. And this was Obama and Grabian was

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Speaker 1: the one that put that that montage together. And if

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Speaker 1: you see it, they're all from different events every time,

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Speaker 1: every and then and then for it seemed like for

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Speaker 1: two years, that's all Obama talked about the Affordable Care Act.

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Speaker 1: Of course we know it is the Unaffordable Care Act.

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Speaker 1: And I especially love the part where he's talking about

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Speaker 1: the fraud, about how it's built into the system that

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Speaker 1: there's not going to be any fraud that I mean

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Speaker 1: this this bill is so air tight that they really

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Speaker 1: are going to caught. And then that's how they're gonna

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Speaker 1: I mean that that's one of the main components of

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Speaker 1: how this bill is going to be so efficient and

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Speaker 1: save so much money because they are really going to

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Speaker 1: cut down on the fraud. Well House Judiciary Committee Chairman

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Speaker 1: Jim Jordan and the Ways and Means Chairman Jason Smith,

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Speaker 1: Energy and Commerce Committee chair Brett Guthrie are talking about

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Speaker 1: a Government Accountability Office report revealing the staggering level of

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Speaker 1: fraud that occurs thanks to Obamacare subsidies. The Government Accountability

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Speaker 1: Office released a report on the massive levels of fraud

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Speaker 1: that come with the Advanced Premium Tax Credits and Affordable

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Speaker 1: Care Act, or Obamacare, subsidy to health insurers to lower

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Speaker 1: the monthly health insurance premiums. Democrats shut down the government

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Speaker 1: for weeks over the looming end of the year expiration

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Speaker 1: of the Enhanced Premium Tax Credits, a more generous version

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Speaker 1: of the tax credits that the left leaning party boosted

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Speaker 1: through the Biden era Coronavirus stimulus pack the America Rescue Plan.

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Speaker 1: Democrats continued the subsidies through the so called Inflation Reduction

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Speaker 1: Act that will expire at the end of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: The GAO, as part of its analysis, conducted covert operations,

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Speaker 1: which included fictitious identities that flood ensures with unjustified sub subsidies.

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Speaker 1: It found that one hundred percent of the fake applications

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Speaker 1: were approved by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services

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Speaker 1: as recently as twenty twenty four, with ninety percent of

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Speaker 1: the fraudulent applicants continuing to receive coverage in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: So why is it that seemingly every government program that's

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Speaker 1: ever been conceived has such a huge element of fraud

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Speaker 1: and waste? It is? I mean, that's a question I

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Speaker 1: would like to throw out there. Is it possible to

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Speaker 1: have a single government program that isn't just riddled with

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Speaker 1: fraud and ripoffs and overspending and unaccountable spending every time

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Speaker 1: you turn around and look. I would never be able

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Speaker 1: to figure out, how do you how do you set

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Speaker 1: up a grift that's going to rip off Obamacare? I

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Speaker 1: don't know how to do it, but there's plenty of

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Speaker 1: other people can figure out how to do it. Let

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Speaker 1: me see if there's this is the Brightbart story on this.

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Speaker 1: For years we were told we keep our plan, keep

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Speaker 1: our doctor premiums, we go down. None of it happened.

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Speaker 1: New report confirms what we already knew. Under Obamacare, hardworking

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Speaker 1: Americans saw their premium skyrocket, health care choices shrink, all

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Speaker 1: while fraud benefited insurance companies. Obamacare was built on lies

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Speaker 1: and broken promises that hurt families and drove up costs.

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Speaker 1: Or Jordan said in a statement to Breitbart. While Democrats

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Speaker 1: defend waste, fraud, and abuse, Republicans are taking action to

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Speaker 1: lower health care costs protect care for all real living Americans.

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Speaker 1: The GAO report is troubling smoking gun shows how this

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Speaker 1: broken system, shielded by Democrat policies, has led to the

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Speaker 1: federal government shoveling tens of billions of tax dollars to

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Speaker 1: insurance companies through identity fraud and calls healthcare costs a

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Speaker 1: skyrocket for all Americans. The GAO report found fifty eight

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Speaker 1: thousand social Security numbers that received the APTC. These tax

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Speaker 1: credits matched Social Security Administration's deaf data, So that's fifty

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Speaker 1: eight thousand people who were dead. We're getting these subsidies

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Speaker 1: and ripping off Obamacare. Seven thousand people had Social Security

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Speaker 1: numbers that were dead before coverage began, meaning the applications

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Speaker 1: used social Security numbers of dead people. Ninety four million

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Speaker 1: dollars in tax credits was sent to a health sent

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Speaker 1: to health insurers on behalf of deceased people. So just

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Speaker 1: that part of the scam, or one scam alone, ninety

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Speaker 1: four million dollars I know, ninety four million dollars dollars

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Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a lot. But that's only part, only

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Speaker 1: part of the ripoff that was going on through Obamacare,

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Speaker 1: and are talk about tens of billions of dollars. While

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Speaker 1: Obamacare fraud is being confirmed by the Government Accountability Office

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Speaker 1: and other outside reports, patients are suffering. They face higher

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Speaker 1: health care costs, denied claims, delayed care when their providers

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Speaker 1: struggle to verify which insurance is valid due to these

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Speaker 1: fraud schemes. So yeah, I mean all that crap from Obama,

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Speaker 1: and we talked about it at the time, that all

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Speaker 1: these promises he was making and the way Obamacare was

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Speaker 1: going to be set up, it couldn't work. And now

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Speaker 1: we're living that nightmare. Raphael, how are you doing tonight?

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Speaker 6: Pretty? I'm pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Brother Dad.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? You're getting off of work?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Hopping in the car. And I caught the little

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Speaker 4: little kid big h you know, the Obamacare and then

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Speaker 4: fraud and Jim Jordans. I heard those three and I

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Speaker 4: was like, oh boy, here was GoGet. Now what were

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Speaker 4: you reading from?

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Speaker 2: Dan? You did? Was that Breitbart?

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Speaker 4: Some for Breitbart?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Breitbart put this out there. The well, the government

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Speaker 1: accountability I've got the government Accountability report right here, but

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Speaker 1: Breitbart published the article based on this report. But no,

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Speaker 1: I mean when it comes to let me say this,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to Jim Jordan, when it comes to

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Speaker 1: Jim Jordan, I agree with you. I laugh at that

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Speaker 1: because Jim Jordan is a little bit like like Lindsey Graham's.

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01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham has talked for years about how he's going

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Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of this, that and the

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Speaker 1: other scandal and never does a damn thing. Jim Jordan

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Speaker 1: has been investigating crap up on Capitol Hill for how

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Speaker 1: many years now, and uh, I've never seen I've never

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01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 1: seen one of his investigations resulting anyone being purple walked

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Speaker 1: of view.

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Speaker 4: I thought I saw Jim Jordan in the vault when

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01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 4: Heralda went down there and I composed the vault. I

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01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 4: think Jim Jeorde was down here. I remember seeing a

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01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 4: yellow tie. But anyway, he.

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Speaker 1: Talks a good game, but he's all talk. He's very

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01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: very slim on the action.

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Speaker 2: He's Jim Jeorde.

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Speaker 4: What could you say, but Dan, Now, when your boy

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Speaker 4: Elonna Khan Musk, when he was up there doing the

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Speaker 4: whole fraud check in and everything like that and you know,

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01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 4: going through the irs Rose and everything and getting his

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Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty million dollars back that he donated

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01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 4: to the campaign. But the must have stayed on board

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Speaker 4: to uncover this rampant fraud through Obama Care.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, I guess, I guess he didn't get

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Speaker 1: to o'bobby. I mean he got to a lot of

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Speaker 1: other fraud, so he claimed he.

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Speaker 4: Did, but I he was just getting his paybag. Then

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01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 4: when from the money he donated Campaig, he just wined Darry.

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01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 4: He got all that back, and then he said, okay, guys,

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Speaker 4: I'm done. But now you know, I know you got

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Speaker 4: other callers too.

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Speaker 1: I know I got news coming up. But I saw

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Speaker 1: today that that they just recalculated Elon Musk's net worth

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Speaker 1: and it's like in excess of six hundred and eighty

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Speaker 1: five billion dollars. So you know Whatay two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty mili to him, that doesn't mean crap.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to drop in the bucket, you know,

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Speaker 4: I have to play a power.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you got six that out there, but uh Rafael,

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Speaker 1: we gotta run. I appreciate the phone.

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Speaker 4: Okay, hey, hey Dan, when I talk to you again.

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Speaker 4: You got to tell me about this land grab in Venezuela,

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01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 4: like we got to get the land. That's what I

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01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 4: heard Don John say. But we'll talk about that another day,

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Speaker 4: all right, Raphael.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the appreciate you listening. Appreciate the phone call.

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Speaker 1: Eleven twenty six, one hundred WIW seven hundred WILW eleven

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Speaker 1: thirty seven, Dan Carroll till midnight tonight. Phone lines are

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Speaker 1: open five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, one

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Speaker 1: to eight hundred. The big one. The state of California

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Speaker 1: issuing the Trump administration. The Department of Transportation is withholding

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Speaker 1: thirty three million dollars in federal funds. The funding was

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Speaker 1: tied to commercial vehicle safety programs in the state's decision

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Speaker 1: not to comply with federal English proficiency requirements for truck drivers.

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Speaker 1: And we have seen just one horror story after another

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Speaker 1: in recent months of illegal aliens who come into the country,

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Speaker 1: go to California or other states and obtain a commercial

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Speaker 1: driver's license, and they're not able to speak English, and

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Speaker 1: they cause all kinds of murder in Mayhem out on

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Speaker 1: the highways. In May, the Department of Transportation reinstated the

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Speaker 1: English language rule for commercial drivers. Is there anything that

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Speaker 1: you can think of that is more common sense than that?

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Speaker 1: If individuals are going to be driving big rigs around

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Speaker 1: this country, should they not be able to read, understand,

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Speaker 1: and speak English. It just seems like the one of

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Speaker 1: the most common sense things that I can think of.

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Speaker 1: But yet California, Pennsylvania, and New York they don't think so.

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01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 1: Those other states have all been warned by the DOT

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Speaker 1: about the potential for losing federal funds if they fail

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01:18:51,640 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: to address issues with CDLs. The Department of Transportation Secretary

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Speaker 1: Sean Duffy defended the move to take that money away

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Speaker 1: from California. He says over nine five hundred truck drivers

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Speaker 1: were removed from service since May for failing English proficiency checks.

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Speaker 1: Think about that. Think about all the big rigs that

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Speaker 1: you pass up on a daily basis when you're driving around.

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01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 1: If you're listening to me on the radio right now,

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01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: you may be just feed away from a big rigs.

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Speaker 1: Is that drivery illegal? Does that driver speak English? Does

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Speaker 1: that driver know what they're doing? Department of Homeland Security

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01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: put this press release out today today yet another avoidable

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Speaker 1: tragedy caused by the Biden administration and sanctuary policies. The

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01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: illegal alien who couldn't speak English causes deadly multi vehicle

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01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 1: pile up in Tennessee under Biden era work authorization. The

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Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Secure Department of Transportation announced that an

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Speaker 1: American was tragically killed due to a Chinese national with

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Speaker 1: a commercial driver's license who failed the English proficiency test.

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Speaker 1: After the crash on Tuesday, December ninth, this dude Huong

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Speaker 1: h U A and g rear ended a semi tractor

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Speaker 1: trailer on I forty going westbound. How many times I've

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Speaker 1: driven on that stretch of Highway I forty through Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: causing a chain reaction crash that led to the death

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Speaker 1: of Carrie Smith injuring two others long This Chinese national

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01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 1: was distracted by a video on his phone at the

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Speaker 1: time of the crash. So you can find one of

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Speaker 1: these stories almost every single day, and at least they're

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Speaker 1: doing something to try and shut it down. Over at

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Speaker 1: NewsBusters dot Org, my buddy Curtis Halkin, other members on

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Speaker 1: the staff, Bro David Brosel, Brett Baker. Over at MRC NewsBusters,

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Speaker 1: they've come up with their worst quote of the year

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Speaker 1: and the worst quote of the year goes to Matthew

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01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: Dowd And this was Matthew Dowd in the immediate aftermath

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Speaker 1: of the Charlie Kirk shooting. And for this he was

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Speaker 1: fired from MSNBC, which I think it's called ms now,

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Speaker 1: but here it is the worst quote of the year. Joe,

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Speaker 1: let's hear cut number one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again emphasize what you just emphasized.

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Speaker 8: We don't know any of the details of this that

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Speaker 8: we don't know if this was a supporter shooting their

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Speaker 8: gun off in celebration or.

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Speaker 2: So, we have no idea about this.

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Speaker 8: But following up what was just said, he's been one

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Speaker 8: of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this

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Speaker 8: who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate

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Speaker 8: speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I

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Speaker 8: always go back to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words,

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Speaker 8: which then lead to hateful actions. And I think that's

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Speaker 8: the environment we're in that people just you can't stop

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Speaker 8: with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then

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01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 8: saying these awful words and not expect awful actions to

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Speaker 8: take place.

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Speaker 2: And that's the unfortunate environment we're in. Turning point you

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Speaker 2: to say, is confirmed that he was shot.

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Speaker 1: There you go, there's Matthew Dowd. His initial thought was

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Speaker 1: that the best thing he could conjure up was that

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Speaker 1: this guy might have brought it on himself, because you know,

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01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: he's just so hateful, just so hateful. So that was

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Speaker 1: the according to NewsBusters, the worst quote of the year

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Speaker 1: over who gets their Joe Joe Waddell, do you get

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01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 1: your news from Apple News? Who gets their news from

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01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 1: I don't know anyone that gets news from Apple News.

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01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: But they have done a study of Apple News and

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01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 1: it shows only one right leaning outlet out of five

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty articles through November, Apple News is direct

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Speaker 1: content of its top stories exposed as the platform's bias,

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Speaker 1: especially since only one of the they examined five hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty articles. They examined five hundred and sixty articles

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Speaker 1: in November, and they only had one that came from

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Speaker 1: a right leaning source. So Apple News, I guess, I

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Speaker 1: guess it's an aggregate site. I don't know. I don't,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think I've ever looked. I don't

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Speaker 1: know where I would find Apple News, but their bias

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Speaker 1: is showing Katie Pavlich. If you're like me, you know

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Speaker 1: who Katie Pavlich is. It's been on Fox News for

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Speaker 1: a while. He's a great writer, a great guest, a

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Speaker 1: great American. She is leaving Fox News. She is getting

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Speaker 1: a new gig at NewsNation. Pavlich will host a new

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Speaker 1: show over there at ten pm beginning weekdays beginning in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. The new gig marks our first primetime

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Speaker 1: hosting role. She worked at Townhall dot Com for sixteen

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Speaker 1: years and has been appearing on Fox News as a

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Speaker 1: contributor since twenty thirteen. And James always does a great job,

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Speaker 1: So I think she's going to be great over there

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Speaker 1: at at NewsNation. Fox News confirmed to The Daily Caller

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Speaker 1: the Pablich is no longer a contributor to the network.

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Speaker 1: Appeared as a frequent guest host on the five other

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Speaker 1: primetime shows. Sean Compton, the president of NewsNation, said Pablich

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Speaker 1: has a unique voice, and he is a tremendous asset

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Speaker 1: to the network. So she's going to do an hour

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Speaker 1: of political news on NewsNation. So congratulations to her. Eric

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Speaker 1: Swalwell is I mean, he is a He's out there

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Speaker 1: on social media. I see a lot of the stuff

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Speaker 1: that he posts, and he's very self righteous. He hates Trump.

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Speaker 1: He thinks he's right about everything that he puts out there,

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Speaker 1: and he I mean, the guy has no self awareness whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: There was a survey that has been done of how

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Speaker 1: many votes these individuals cast, and it turns out that

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Speaker 1: Democrat Representative Eric swalwere Swalwell Swalwell, I guess he's also

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Speaker 1: running for governor now in California, has skipped more House

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Speaker 1: votes than any active member of Concress, according to data

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Speaker 1: analyzed by The New York Post. Since launching his campaign,

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Speaker 1: Swalwell has reportedly been rarely seen in Washington, DC. According

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Speaker 1: to the Sacramento b Voting records collected by the nonpartisan

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Speaker 1: website gov track show that of the three hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty two House roll call votes in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: Swalwell missed ninety five since January, not including absences from

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Speaker 1: committee hearings. By comparison, Swamwell missed more than or more

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Speaker 1: votes than a fellow California Democrat Rep. Nancy Pelosi, who

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Speaker 1: suffered a hip injury after a fall. In December. NBC

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Speaker 1: first reported, Oh, well, I don't care about that, So yeah,

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Speaker 1: Eric Swalwell. Government track shows Swalwell has missed fifty of

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Speaker 1: sixty one roll call votes, which is eighty two percent,

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Speaker 1: between September nineteenth through this last Tuesday, I'm sorry, Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: November eighteenth. Overall data from gov Track shows Swalwell has

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Speaker 1: missed more than five hundred and fifty votes out of

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Speaker 1: seven two hundred and fifty three since entering Congress. While

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Speaker 1: the average House member misses about two point one percent

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Speaker 1: of votes, Swalwell is missing seven point seven percent of

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Speaker 1: the votes, more than anyone else in Congress. So congratulations,

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Speaker 1: Eric's Walwell. At least you are a a leader in something.

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Speaker 1: And then I'm watching I'm watching the news yesterday and

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Speaker 1: I'm flipping around, and all they could talk about on

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Speaker 1: CNN or MS now was this story that showed up

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Speaker 1: in Vanity Fair. They did, they did a a a

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Speaker 1: profile piece on White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles

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Speaker 1: and I and and they were still doing it today

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Speaker 1: but all day, and I made it a point. I

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Speaker 1: was getting ready for the show, and when I I

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Speaker 1: wasn't in front of the TV all day, but when

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Speaker 1: but when the one hour would come up, there I

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Speaker 1: would I would check and see what they were leading

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Speaker 1: with on CNN and MSNBC. Susie Wiles, Susie Wilds, Well,

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Speaker 1: she she gave some quotes to Vanity Fair magazine and

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Speaker 1: and they were just I mean, look it, she said,

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Speaker 1: I mean, she said. Some of the stuff she said

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Speaker 1: is uh, I mean, it's it's interesting. And and she

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Speaker 1: she made she had the one coming. Look, they took

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Speaker 1: so many of these quotes out of context. And the

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Speaker 1: one about Trump had she said alcoholic personality. She was

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Speaker 1: comparing a Trump too, or she was actually talking about

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Speaker 1: her father at the time. It was Pat Summerl And

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Speaker 1: I guess he was a drinker, and she talked about

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Speaker 1: how he was an alcoholic. And you know, they're so driven.

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Speaker 1: I guess that the personality is and and so they talked.

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Speaker 1: She talked about that. She said some things about Gadie Vance,

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Speaker 1: and she said some things about Elon Musk. And of

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Speaker 1: course they love all this palace intrigue, and they love

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Speaker 1: to take these things and take them out of context

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Speaker 1: themselves and act as if the Trump White House is

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Speaker 1: completely out of control. So Peter Navarro, who's a buddy

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Speaker 1: of President Trump's, wrote a great piece about the two

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Speaker 1: parts of the Vanity Hit piece on Susie Wiles. He says,

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Speaker 1: the Susie Wiles profiles are non journalists. They're a case

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Speaker 1: study in how legacy media manufactures menutce by stitching conjecture

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Speaker 1: to caricature, insinuation to Indian innuendo, and then calling the

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Speaker 1: resulting resulting collage and exclusive. And he calls it vanity hit,

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Speaker 1: not vanity fair. He says, what Vanity Hit delivered across

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Speaker 1: these two installments is not an investigation grounded in evidence,

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Speaker 1: but a prolonged exercise in narrative escalation that is irresponsible, misleading,

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Speaker 1: and dangerous. The method is consistent from the opening line

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Speaker 1: to the final paragraph. The reader is primed to fear

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Speaker 1: before being asked to think. Power in peril is not

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Speaker 1: a neutral frame, It's a verdict rendered in advance from there.

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Speaker 1: The piece deployed of the piece is deploy of familiar

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Speaker 1: arsenal adjectives standing in for proof, brutal, sketchy, chaotic, anonymous,

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Speaker 1: consensus replacing sourcing many have called critics say and hypothetical

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Speaker 1: elevated to headline status. This is not how facts are established,

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Speaker 1: it's how outrage is curated. Across both parts vanity, hit

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Speaker 1: repeatedly insinuates illegally without doing the work of demonstration. Immigration

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Speaker 1: enforcement is described in language designed to shock, snatching, brutal

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Speaker 1: despite court orders. These are all words that were contained

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Speaker 1: within the article without cases, files, warrant, docket number, timelines,

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Speaker 1: chain of command. If there was court defiance, cite the order.

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Speaker 1: If there was violations, show the remedy. Instead, readers are

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Speaker 1: offered a mood, not a record. That approach does not inform,

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Speaker 1: it in flames. The most reckless choice is the flirtation

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Speaker 1: with accusations of war crimes. Both pieces lean into overheated

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Speaker 1: rhetoric about interdictions and lethal force, quoting secondhand claims and

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Speaker 1: then retreating behind journalistic hedges possible and may have called.

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Speaker 1: That is not caution, It is evasion. Allegations of war

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Speaker 1: crimes carry extraordinary moral and legal gravity. To air them

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Speaker 1: without adjudication, evidence, or authoritative finding is not courage. Its negligence.

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Speaker 1: Equally corrosive is the casual use of historically incendiary analogies

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Speaker 1: reich Tag imagery, authoritarian trope, guardrails of democracy languages are

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Speaker 1: deployed not to clarify, but to terrify. These analogies, collapse

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Speaker 1: context to raise distinctions, and act as accelerants in a

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Speaker 1: politicized society. Such rhetoric does not cool tensions. It licenses

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Speaker 1: the belief that ordinary politics is an existential emergency. History

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Speaker 1: teachers where that road leads. When policy analyzes analysis falters,

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Speaker 1: vanity hit pivots to personalization, readers are treated to amateur psychology,

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Speaker 1: gossip and mockery, claims about impulse, stamina, dozing, and meetings

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Speaker 1: and tone abroad. These are not arguments. There are shortcuts

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Speaker 1: around evidence. If policies are wrong, argue the policies, if

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Speaker 1: the outcomes failed, show the data. Instead. Authority is delegitimized

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Speaker 1: by ridicule. The Epstein sectionist in part two of the

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Speaker 1: article is emblematic. There's no new evidence, no finding of wrongdoing,

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Speaker 1: no adjudication, only the implication of proximity bi proximity and

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Speaker 1: disappointment by rumor optics replace facts. Journalism becomes a parlor game.

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Speaker 1: Who appears in a file, Who flew where? Who feels

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Speaker 1: let down? Suspicion is allowed to linger because it serves

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Speaker 1: the narrative, and it goes on. But that's all I've

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Speaker 1: got time for right now. But Peter Navarro just nails it,

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Speaker 1: and he talks about the tools of the trade and

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Speaker 1: the media. The suspect the left, the agenda driven media

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Speaker 1: fell for it, hook line and sinker. So I find

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Speaker 1: that Peter Navarro piece in the Washington Times and read

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Speaker 1: it and is really well written. Now that's it for me.

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Speaker 1: I got to get out of here. I am back tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We will do it again nine to midnight on the

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Speaker 1: Thursday night edition on the midweek Crisis. Until then, have

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