1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: All right back on the round Table show. Long next 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: in Hebret presented by Postman Law, brought to you in 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: part by Hogsworth Blood Centers, Hawksworth Donors, Save Lives, Lance 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: mecalyst Rocky Boyman. Time to talk with our guy, Jeorge 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: Us every week at this time covers the Bengals for 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: c l NS. Since he with the Y dot Com 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: host of the Jungle War podcast on YouTube. He's the 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: man they call Trags Mike Petrallion Trags. I'm gonna ask 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: you a question. I don't know if you've heard people 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: are buzzing about this Joe Burrow thing. 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: So I'm going to ask you what. 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Do your eyes show and tell you this week in 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: watching Joe. 14 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 3: Burrow, he's moving comfortably. He's throwing the ball with great 15 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: fluidity and strength. He looks like the Joe Burrow we 16 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: saw late in training camp and in the preseason. Uh 17 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 3: Zach Taylor agreed with that observation on Wednesday that he 18 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: looked terrific, looked out standing. 19 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: On Monday. 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: He's throwing the ball great. He even moved out of 21 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: the pocket and individual drills. He's not doing eleven on 22 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 3: eleven yet, but he's doing everything you would hope to 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: see from Joe Burrow to this point, I hate using 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: the cliche, but he's checking all the boxes. The one 25 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 3: thing we don't know is how he will look when 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: he's trying to move quickly the little dance steps inside 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 3: the pocket to get out of trouble. Will his foot 28 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 3: respond to that appropriately? But to this point, he looks tremendous. 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 3: He looks very strong, and he also looks very relaxed. 30 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: And obviously it's kind of dangerous sometimes to rate in 31 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 3: the body language. But I will tell you both from 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: his press conference on Monday and his interaction that we've 33 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: seen at practice with Joe Burrow, with Joe Flacco and 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: obviously Jake Browning and Sean Clifford the other three quarterback, 35 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: the other two quarterbacks, he looks like he's getting along well. 36 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: He looks comfortable. You know. 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: I think he has in his mind the date of 38 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving night. I believe that's November twenty seventh, to return 39 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: to action and be ready to go. And if he 40 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 3: checks all the boxes, I don't see any reason why. 41 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: He wouldn't tryers. 42 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 4: I couldn't be more fascinated in this alleged contraption. He's 43 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 4: wearing protecting his toe. Any information on what sort of brace, 44 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 4: what sort of thing is being is on his foot 45 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 4: now to help brace that toe. 46 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: No, I haven't seen it, Rocky, and I'm sure it's 47 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: you know, the orthopedic contraption on steroids if you will, 48 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: it is the most complex orthopedic instrument that you could 49 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: come up with. Is in there to protect and cushion 50 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 3: the toe. What I'm curious to find out, and we 51 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: probably should have asked us had we been doing our 52 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: job properly on Monday, is does that give him any restriction? 53 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: How does it feel playing with it? 54 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: I mean, in in all fairness, at that point on Monday, 55 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: he had only been at practice one day, So you 56 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: know that's what We're gonna have to wait and see. 57 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 3: How does Joe Burrow respond once he returns to eleven 58 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: on eleven activities likely next week, and how does it 59 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: feel and how does his foot respond from playing repetitively on. 60 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: It and drags In terms of a return to normalcy, 61 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase is back to messing with him again. Huh yep, 62 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: And that was hilarious today, saying he given the fact 63 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow is such an mma fan. 64 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: He likes to kick him, head butt them, punch him. 65 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: And once he starts, he said, once he starts punching him. 66 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: Burrow will usually punch back. 67 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: And I found that fascinating. Was also interesting this began. 68 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: You know, I thought it was terrific of Paul Day, 69 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: energy of the athletic to ask this. 70 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: When did this begin? 71 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: And you know the natural assumption would be at LSU. Well, yes, 72 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: it started at LSU, but not until his senior year 73 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: because initially, Jamar said, Joe Burrow didn't talk to anybody, 74 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: so you didn't know. If the guy's not talking to anybody, 75 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: you don't mess around with him until you really get 76 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: to know him. 77 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: And that wasn't. 78 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 3: Until their senior year together, and it's kind of continued 79 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: while they've been together with the Bengals. Also, he said, 80 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: would he asked if he would do it during games, 81 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 3: He really had to pause and think, and he said 82 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: maybe after a touchdown drive kind of mess around with 83 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 3: him then, But I don't think you're going to be 84 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: doing that after he just went three and out and 85 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: you're down by seven points in the middle of the 86 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: third quarter. 87 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 4: So trying to I don't know everybody you talked to 88 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 4: when the toe injury happened. Everything, every indication to me 89 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 4: was that this thing was very serious. You know that 90 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 4: that kind of thing nothing to mess around with, a 91 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 4: very complicated kind of joint. So I think him the 92 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: fact that he was activated on the twenty one day 93 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 4: window on Monday was such a shock. What do you 94 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 4: think happened? Did was? Did he just accelerate his rehab 95 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 4: and really respond well to that? Was it not as 96 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 4: bad as maybe people originally thought? What's the case here? 97 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: The former not the latter. 98 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: He definitely accelerated his rehab. And if you know anything 99 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 3: about Joe Burrow and his previous four significant injuries, he's 100 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: attacked the rehab process incredibly aggressively, getting back. 101 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: Way ahead of schedule. And this has been no different. 102 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: And you know, take this for what it is, but 103 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: Burrow said that this he's been through ligament injuries before, 104 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,239 Speaker 3: and this of course is one of those. He said, 105 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 3: this is hasn't risen to the complexity, certainly of the risks, 106 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: which I think was the most complicated to come back 107 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 3: from and the knee. This is not those type of injuries. 108 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: He kind of figured, I guess early on after surgery 109 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: and the way it was responding that he would be 110 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: able to attack it, go through everything and ramp it 111 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 3: up more quickly, and as long as your body responds, 112 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: there's no reason not to continue on that path. 113 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: The moment you feel anything. 114 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: Abnormal, obviously doctors and physical therapists are going to tell 115 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: you to back off and let the thing heal because 116 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 3: you don't want to do more damage. But in this 117 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 3: particular case, Burrow has made it to this point without 118 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 3: any complications, knock Wood, and he anticipates on keeping that 119 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: acceleration through to the practice field this week, next week 120 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 3: and see where it winds up on Thanksgiving night. 121 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: All right, Trags, You've got a lot more on this, 122 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: everything from Joe Flacco and the twist and turn of 123 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: his season and his reflections and said Johnson's opportunity and more. 124 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: Tell everybody how they can read, watch and follow. 125 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco. 126 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 3: Yoda of the Bengals during a season of chaos is 127 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: what I have up there now on CLN S Sinc. 128 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: With a y dot com. I had fun putting that together. 129 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: Needless to say, he's just so much, He's so awesome 130 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: to talk to and so insightful. That's going to be 131 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: up there tomorrow. Look out for a story and column 132 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: on Jamar. Chase and T Higgins also spoke, both being 133 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: flat out surprised and almost shocked that Burrow was back 134 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: on the field this week. 135 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: That'll be up on CLNS since with a y dot 136 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: com all of the locker room. 137 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: Interviews, including a nice piece with Seda Johnson, who could 138 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: be a big player in this week's game in Pittsburgh 139 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: the defensive end in his third year out of Ole Miss. 140 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: That's on Trags at Trags, on the x t r 141 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: Ags and the podcast page. 142 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: As always, YouTube. 143 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: Dot com, Slash Jungle Roar pod, must read, watch and follow. 144 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, look forward to talking. 145 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: To your next week. All right, gentlemen, take care