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Speaker 1: minute and fifty seconds past the hour three o'clock Central

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Speaker 1: Standard time, we welcome you back to a Monday edition

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Speaker 1: of the Afternoon Ardvark on a still rather chilly, rather

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Speaker 1: and Saint Paul, even though we were approaching I think

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Speaker 1: the month of March. My name is Dan Barrero. I'm

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Speaker 1: your favorite weather terrorist guards. He produces the show, and

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Speaker 1: we are delighted that you are a part of today's

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Speaker 1: festivities as we wrap up a very i think entertaining, controversial,

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Speaker 1: eventful Winter Olympiad in Italy. That'll be certainly a big

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Speaker 1: part of the conversation today to at least two of

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Speaker 1: our guests, maybe even three. But there's other stuff that

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Speaker 1: we will be discussing throughout the program as well. Might

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Speaker 1: be a seal of approval before we're done, and a

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Speaker 1: lots to get to between now and I'm assuming we're

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Speaker 1: out at the usual six point thirty tonight. The branch

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Speaker 1: on Brian caffe In text line has been rebooted for

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Speaker 1: your purposes six four, six, eight six is the number.

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Speaker 1: A lot of miracle talk because not necessarily because we

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Speaker 1: should describe what the US did yesterday during a Sunday

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Speaker 1: sermons as a miracle, so much as you know forty

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Speaker 1: six years removed from beating the Soviets and then going

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Speaker 1: on to win the Gold and is this a different

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Speaker 1: kind of miracle? So the M word is out there

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Speaker 1: a lot right now. But I must tell you that

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Speaker 1: the game that I think more than hockey, maybe more

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Speaker 1: than football, maybe more than baseball. Although you could say

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Speaker 1: the Twins need a miracle, needs several. Probably the game

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Speaker 1: that needs a miracle more than any other at this

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Speaker 1: particular point, I don't even think it's close is the

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Speaker 1: game of basketball. The game is me, professional basketball, and

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Speaker 1: the miracle that I'm waiting for, and I'm not holding

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Speaker 1: my breath. I'm not. The miracle I'm waiting for is

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Speaker 1: the ability, in processing a professional basketball team's loss, to

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Speaker 1: concentrate not only on the players that team is missing,

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Speaker 1: but the players that, if it applies, the other team

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Speaker 1: is missing. I know I asked for a lot, I

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Speaker 1: really do. I understand. You know I'm a dreamer, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm the only one. We are almost

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Speaker 1: daily browbeaten with this nonsense that in the case, for example,

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Timberwolves, they're the only team that's not always

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Speaker 1: at full strength. And so if we're looking for reasons,

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Speaker 1: for example, to explain why we got blown out by

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Speaker 1: middle of the road Philadelphia's seventy six ers team on

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Speaker 1: a random Sunday night here in the Twin Cities, in Minnapolis,

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Speaker 1: Saint Paul, we must search for what who didn't play

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Speaker 1: for us? What were you supposed to do? How can

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Speaker 1: you win? How can apparently you even compete? Last night,

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Speaker 1: I believe we were without our world class defensive center

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Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert, the much maligned I might and the rest

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Speaker 1: of the time, Rudy Gobert wasn't available. And that's on him.

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Speaker 1: Much as we talk about, like the message he conveyed

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Speaker 1: in the locker room the other day, I think you

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Speaker 1: did too. There's got to be some self awareness. And

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Speaker 1: he's put himself in a position where it's not technical fouls,

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Speaker 1: it's flagrance. Right, So he got nail on another flagrant

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Speaker 1: two games ago. That meant now he's he's gonna miss

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Speaker 1: at some point whether you start missing two with your

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Speaker 1: hook for that, but he's not available for one reason

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Speaker 1: the other and who else was out nas reed nas

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Speaker 1: shoulder soreness, shoulder soreness. I mean, we all know Lindsay

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Speaker 1: Vaughn would have played more on that later. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the developments in that story are a little bit sobering,

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Speaker 1: but I digress. Given the dunkathon that ensued, especially after

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Speaker 1: comes to getting two quick fouls. Gott In fouled trouble.

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Speaker 1: It was the lane was wide open for the Sixers

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Speaker 1: and they got the word. Their coaching staff obviously said

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Speaker 1: it hurt not having Rudy. We were reminded about the

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Speaker 1: They call him like the excuse me, so that's it,

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Speaker 1: and then you turn it back around. That's it. And

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Speaker 1: but I do think Philadelphia was missing a couple of

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Speaker 1: and and Jeff George Jeff George. Paul George is out

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Speaker 1: middle of a lengthy suspension as well. They did play

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Speaker 1: against New Orleans, okay, on the road? Oh they did?

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Speaker 1: Is that right? I don't remember hearing that being brought up.

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Speaker 1: All I heard last night after was excuse after excuse

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Speaker 1: after excuse. So that's that's the miracle this league needs.

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Speaker 1: And I get it. You and I talked about this

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Speaker 1: in the Vestibule Studio C. The league is now wired

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Speaker 1: to say, you just put up your eyes. It's the

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Speaker 1: nature of the league now. Just happens. You might win

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Speaker 1: by thirty one day and lose by forty against a

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Speaker 1: team missing four players, and that's just part of the deal.

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Speaker 1: Don't overreact. Everybody does it. It happens to everybody. I'm

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Speaker 1: not here to say you have to overreact, but I

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Speaker 1: rather than fixating on that's a lot to give up

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Speaker 1: without Nas and without Rudy. I mean, what are we

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Speaker 1: supposed to do? Is this too much to ask that

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Speaker 1: the other team? Those are pre now, These those players

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Speaker 1: you can argue based on injury and in the case

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Speaker 1: of George Age, maybe past their prime. But you look

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Speaker 1: at look at the big man's numbers. He's been good

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Speaker 1: this year when he's played. And all I'm saying is

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Speaker 1: broadcast what we're missing? I mean, are are people that naive?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, Oh yeah, that's right. Does that Is

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Speaker 1: be said on a broadcast? Hey man, it's a bad

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Speaker 1: look here. We this is not It's our second game

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Speaker 1: and remind did you how long has it been since

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Speaker 1: you've mentioned that nas Reed and Rudy are not available?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it just it boggles the mind. So that

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Speaker 1: even think it just happens here. It doesn't. It's it's

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Speaker 1: I think, pretty much everywhere. And again, it's not about

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Speaker 1: saying shut down the season, Firefinch, the Wolves are we we? Uh,

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Speaker 1: what's the term? We We give gratitude to Finci every

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Speaker 1: show to give gratitude Offinci. But it's just be fair

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Speaker 1: who's more valuable, whos gonna Who's used to having a

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Speaker 1: different lineup the Wolves have rarely had. Maybe there's not

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Speaker 1: even been a single game this year we've been without

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Speaker 1: both Rudy and Nods as far as I'm concerned. But

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Speaker 1: even then, I'd say, I'm sorry, that's too easy for me.

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Speaker 1: You're all still basketball players. The head coach after the

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Speaker 1: We were late, according to Finchy, getting rid of the

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Speaker 1: There was plenty of meat on the bone to explain

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Speaker 1: Rudy was available or Nas was available. So let's just

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Speaker 1: include all of it, shall we. Chris heindd I saw

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Speaker 1: it in the lead of his story. He didn't it's

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Speaker 1: an important part of the story that Rudy and Nas

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Speaker 1: are out, but he immediately also mentioned who Philly had out.

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Speaker 1: Plus again, you're at home. They played last night on

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Speaker 1: the road. You're supposed to be the better team, period.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards is not supposed to turn the ball over

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Speaker 1: seven times. He couldn't have been more casual with the way,

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Speaker 1: too casual with the ball. He's got to tighten that

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Speaker 1: wasn't getting enough help, no question about that. But that's

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Speaker 1: that's what I dream of. That's the that's the miracle

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Speaker 1: repercussions if you don't. Because the discerning basketball fan, I think,

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Speaker 1: was Philly playing at full strength? Is it illegal for

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Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards to play better defense on Tyrese MAXI so

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Speaker 1: great player. You're not gonna stop him. But just that's

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Speaker 1: that's the only miracle ask for today. Do you think

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Speaker 1: I'm asking for too much?

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Speaker 3: Probably because the other thing that gets said in NBA circles,

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Speaker 3: and it was said last night. And I just looked

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Speaker 3: at the standings teams three through seven last night in

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Speaker 3: the Western College, including Denver against the Golden State team

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Speaker 3: that had everybody out, including Steph Curry, including Draymond Green,

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Speaker 3: Celtics in Atlanta. No, not Horford from Eastern Europe.

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Speaker 1: know think Porzinga's ever played he's But do you know

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Speaker 1: what I call that? What's that?

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Speaker 3: When three through seven all lose and you're at home

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Speaker 3: against Philly? I call that a missed opportunity. We call

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Speaker 3: that an opportunity, A missed opportunity when you are well,

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Speaker 3: you're an alarmist.

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Speaker 1: I must be you're an alarmist. You don't understand. You

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Speaker 1: gotta be able to let this thing play out a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Just and again I'm actually willing to listen

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Speaker 1: to that. To a point, I just want everything to

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Speaker 1: be brought up. I just don't want the stuff that's

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Speaker 1: his credit, I don't think Fincy made a big deal

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Speaker 1: the weather apparently yep, which may be true. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. There's other times we see performances like

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Speaker 1: know guards he's not old enough to understand this reference. Johnny,

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Speaker 1: I assume you too are too young to remember a

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Speaker 1: program called the g e College Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that might have been before my time

433
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Speaker 2: as well. Dan.

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Speaker 1: So here's the beauty, well, the beauty. So the Gene

435
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Speaker 1: College Bowl, as I recall, it was one of those

436
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Speaker 1: brainiac shows where you would get three brains from let's

437
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Speaker 1: say Purdue and then three brains from Yale. Actually, I

438
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: think there were often three teams and then maybe another

439
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Speaker 1: one from you name it, I guess, maybe UCLA, and

440
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Speaker 1: it would be what you'd expect. It would be a

441
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Speaker 1: series of questions, usually brainy ones, sometimes related to math.

442
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it might be geopolitics, whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 1: And the cadence in your open reminds me of the

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Speaker 1: cadence of the ge College Bowl, because the way it

445
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Speaker 1: would be is the question would be asked okay, and

446
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Speaker 1: then whoever wanted to answer sure the question had a

447
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: buzzer that they pushed right, and then the announcer would

448
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: say Jones Purdue, and then Jones from Purdue would give

449
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: his answer. It was brilliant. It was like staccato. It

450
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: was very very serious. It was a hell of a show.

451
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Speaker 1: And there's probably about I don't know, two percent, maybe

452
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Speaker 1: five percent of the audience who could possibly relate to

453
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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. But it was a no nonsense,

454
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Speaker 1: not a lot of happy talk. We're here, you know,

455
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Speaker 1: you're identify yourself, give me your answer. You got on

456
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Speaker 1: so time to do it, and that's how you almost

457
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Speaker 1: yelled it out like you were a marine, you know,

458
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Speaker 1: like it was some sort of a basic training thing. Jones,

459
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Speaker 1: University of Tennessee, Chattanooga, that sort of thing. It'd be beautiful.

460
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Speaker 1: And it reminds me that your open kind of reminds

461
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Speaker 1: me that it's very urgent.

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Speaker 2: Sounding, sounds like like almost a team Jeopardy or something.

463
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Speaker 1: It is. Yes, John Cargie, did you find anything about it?

464
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Speaker 2: Find that?

465
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

466
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Speaker 2: It was.

467
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Speaker 3: It was on NBC and then CBS in the fifties,

468
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Speaker 3: sixties and seventies into the eighties that were Actually.

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Speaker 1: It really was didn't rise. It was that late.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember it being that late, and then the

471
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Speaker 3: Mannings with Peyton as the host, tried to revive it

472
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Speaker 3: back in.

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Speaker 2: Kid.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I do remember that now.

475
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Speaker 3: So how about this in the first run from fifty

476
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Speaker 3: three to fifty five, Yeah, the most dominant team was

477
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Speaker 3: the University of Minnesota, is that right? Which had teams

478
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Speaker 3: appear in twenty three of the sixty eight broadcast matches.

479
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: Man Minnesota was just like our football team back then, national.

480
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Speaker 2: Church football team. I was going to say, yeah.

481
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Speaker 3: Bobby Bell probably you know, with Sandy Stevens, probably won

482
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Speaker 3: a couple of college quiz.

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Speaker 1: Bas was gangle Hoff helping back in those days? She

484
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Speaker 1: may have been pre gangle hofs. You may have been.

485
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Speaker 1: I don't know who's to say, hang the banner. That's impressive.

486
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Speaker 1: I didn't see that's the local angle that you found.

487
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Speaker 1: I didn't even know about. That's perfect, Thank you Wikipedia,

488
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Speaker 1: GE College Bowl. It was outstanding. In sixty five, is

489
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Speaker 1: somebody rights? We had local high school bowls began as

490
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Speaker 1: College Quiz Bowl on the NBC. Never and fifty three

491
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Speaker 1: aired on CBS, So I think that's what guards he's

492
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Speaker 1: talking about. The NBC as the GE College Ball, hosted

493
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Speaker 1: by yeah, Alan Ludden, who is the original host of password,

494
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Speaker 1: not program password, but the original TV password, and then

495
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Speaker 1: later somebody named Robert Earl, who I don't remember. I

496
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: don't know who Robert Earl is. Well, you knew this

497
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: was coming, so let me let's get it out of

498
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: the way. Now, let's lance the boil right now, because

499
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be it's going to take

500
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Speaker 1: all the tension out of the air for you. A

501
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: number of textures from the hockey community are concerned that

502
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 1: it was a really, really hard day for you. Your

503
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: favorite basketball team went belly up in a non competitive fashion,

504
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: and the US men's hockey team in one of the

505
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Speaker 1: most dramatic finishes in the history of team sports in

506
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Speaker 1: the Olympics, takes the Canadians to overtime and finds a

507
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Speaker 1: way to win. Are you okay?

508
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Speaker 2: I think I'm going to be okay. I do. Like

509
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Speaker 2: I think I've said this to you before, Dan, I

510
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: delight in seeing you know, every time something good happens

511
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: in the hockey community, we see something on social media

512
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: like a Jack Hues bloody tooth, and the NBA would

513
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: never you know, and and and I can tell you,

514
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: like Don Draper in mad Men, when something good happens

515
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: in the NBA, we don't think about the NHL and

516
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: hockey at all, Like we just don't. But I will

517
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: say this sincerely and genuinely, it was an amazing moment

518
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: for the team, for the country, for all of it

519
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: to watch them play that the way that they did.

520
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: I was watching the game before my daughter had at

521
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Speaker 2: an eight am basketball game in Rochester, and that not

522
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: only you know, you watch the game, but also at

523
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Speaker 2: the end when go with the godro kids come on

524
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Speaker 2: the ice, I was weepy, Like I mean, it's amazing,

525
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Speaker 2: Like just those kinds of emotions, that kind of feeling,

526
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Speaker 2: that kind of you know it's very hard for the

527
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Speaker 2: US to be an underdog in anything right now, but

528
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: we are underdogs in hockey that way. And for them

529
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Speaker 2: to win like that and play such an amazing game

530
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Speaker 2: and the goalie to stand on his head the way

531
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Speaker 2: that he did, it was fantastic, Like it was awesome,

532
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: great theater, you know, all of the emotions involved fantastic.

533
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Speaker 1: And the larger issue, which we do discuss later with

534
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Speaker 1: al Michaels or playing back that interview at five point thirty, is,

535
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Speaker 1: as you know better than most, we are in a

536
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Speaker 1: twenty four to seven hyped world of anticipating great matchups,

537
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: right we can't wait to pit one great team against

538
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Speaker 1: another and hope that it's going to be the event

539
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Speaker 1: of the century. But how often does all that hype

540
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Speaker 1: get matched by the event itself, that the event itself

541
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Speaker 1: rises to that level and perhaps even beyond. I think

542
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Speaker 1: that's another big component of this.

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Speaker 2: Story, no question about it, and I know you can

544
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Speaker 2: feel it, Dan, like in any of these moments that

545
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Speaker 2: are even remotely like nineteen eighty, we're all yearning to

546
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Speaker 2: have that, Like every one of us wants to have

547
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Speaker 2: our version of that, or at least an updated if

548
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Speaker 2: you're lucky enough to. You know, I was one year

549
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: old in nineteen eighty, so I had no recollection of that,

550
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: and of course this was not the miracle on ice.

551
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: But what I think we all as sports fans look

552
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Speaker 2: for in these moments is, yes, to have like the drama,

553
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: to have the tension, all of it go down to

554
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Speaker 2: the closing seconds, whether it's hockey or basketball or football

555
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: or whatever. You just want to have that experience and

556
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: that communal feeling while you're watching it. And you know,

557
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: there are plenty and plenty of times where the event

558
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: can fall short just in this appointment, or you know,

559
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: it's lopsided, whatever it is, but on the rare occasions

560
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: where it really does just deliver everything you could possibly

561
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: ask for, it is so satisfying. As a sports consumer.

562
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: We're all looking for, you know, that kind of moment

563
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Speaker 2: where you know, either I'm sure there's a million parents

564
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Speaker 2: watching with their kids, or you know, all sorts of

565
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 2: different memories that are going to be stoked and and

566
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Speaker 2: and made from from these I you know, I was

567
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: at the the the hockey game in Sochi when the

568
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Speaker 2: t Usa with the with the shootout with t j

569
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Speaker 2: Oshi and all those things, and I think there's a

570
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Speaker 2: lot of talk about how the kids that were watching

571
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: that game grew into playing in this game today, and

572
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: that's just like, that's the power of sports man. It

573
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: is so cool. And Mike Erico hitting the absolute grand

574
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Speaker 2: slam walk off a f the end to really encapsulate it,

575
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Speaker 2: like all I want as a journalist, as a sports fan,

576
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Speaker 2: as they have the hairs on the back of my

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Speaker 2: next stand up, And that's exactly what happened in that moment.

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Speaker 1: It was Yeah, and to that extent in the gold

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Speaker 1: medal game, hockey delivered in both the men's gold medal

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Speaker 1: game and the women's I mean, that's that's the that's

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Speaker 1: the two forer that we that has to be put

582
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Speaker 1: into this conversation. Obviously, the depth of competition is not

583
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Speaker 1: as great yet on the women's side, but once you

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Speaker 1: got to the two teams that matter at this point,

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Speaker 1: Canada and the US, obviously we couldn't have been any

586
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Speaker 1: more dramatic game than it was. For sure, all right,

587
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Speaker 1: let's get to go ahead. You're gonna say just.

588
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: One other things? Sure, like just supposing it. So we

589
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: we also had a great basketball run in the summer

590
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Speaker 2: Olympics with yeah, that's true USA, But you know it

591
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: was an incredible theater, incredible drama, Steph Curry and all that.

592
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: The different feeling though, is that obviously the United States

593
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Speaker 2: and men's basketball is the heavy, heavy favor and and

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Speaker 2: so you know, I love loved watching it, but you

595
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: certainly do have a different feeling in men's hockey where

596
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: it feels like the deck of stack against you haven't

597
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: won a gold medal in forever and all those things.

598
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: So just just a little different different feel for it.

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Speaker 2: But it was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Would you endorse the idea that has been trumpeted every

601
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: once in a while but never followed through on that basketball,

602
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: by all rights should also be in the Winter Olympics

603
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Speaker 1: and not the summer.

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Speaker 2: Probably not no, because well I just don't like breaking

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Speaker 2: up the season. Now. I know that I know that

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Speaker 2: the NHL doesn't, and they they have figured out and

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00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 2: they and they go through it and and do what

608
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: they need to do, and maybe it's worth it, but

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Speaker 2: I just think that the way that the the NBA

610
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: league and season is structured, I think it would be

611
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Speaker 2: really really difficult to pull that off. I also like

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Speaker 2: in the summer, Dan because I want another anchor event

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Speaker 2: in the Summer Olympics that is, yeah, you know, not

614
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: track and field, you know, not kind of some of

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00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: the other more neat sports, like I want a big

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Speaker 2: heavyweight throwdown event as part of the Summer Olympics, And

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Speaker 2: so I really like it where it is for.

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Speaker 1: That reason, for balancing purposes, it's hard to argue with that.

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Speaker 1: There's a part of it. I actually would like to

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Speaker 1: see it also in the winter, but I think again,

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Speaker 1: from a balance standpoint, it is probably going to be

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Speaker 1: pretty difficult to do that. And then you have the

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Speaker 1: issue of, like you said, the basketball season also being interrupted.

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00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: They're coming in loud and clear. This is from a

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Speaker 1: Texter who calls himself guards. These conscience might be familiar

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Speaker 1: once you listen to the to the text, Hey Johnny,

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Speaker 1: great to hear you talking basketball. Ever, after a historic

628
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Speaker 1: USA Hockey weekend, thoughts on nas Reed's hangnail keeping him

629
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Speaker 1: out last night, hashtag tough to you f.

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Speaker 2: F fantastic yep, I'm waiting for all of those that

631
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: might be falness.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. It just might be.

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00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, And of course there was talk last

634
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Speaker 2: night Julius Randall did not play well, and yeah, and

635
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Speaker 2: fin sit after the game he was he was he

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00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: under the weather, severely under the weather. And I can

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00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: absolutely hear the entire hockey community shortally because I think

638
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: every tooth in Jack Hughes's mouth was mapped out and

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00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: he's still scored. So, first of.

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Speaker 1: All, I took the wiped the blood. In fairness, he

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00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: did take a he did take a rag to wipe

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Speaker 1: the blood away, and then he went right back out

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Speaker 1: on the.

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Speaker 2: Ice without the right back out on the ice. Yeah,

645
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Speaker 2: pretty amazing. Like, yeah, I can't you know, I cannot

646
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: match that. Also, I guess hockey players don't have to,

647
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: you know, jump ten feet in the air and dunk

648
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: and all those things. Sorts of different kind of skill set,

649
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: but they are very tough dudes. They play through a lot.

650
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: Basketball players play through a lot as well. I can

651
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: guarantee you Dan, if it was the gold medal game

652
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: in the Olympics, Nasried would have played last night. Julius

653
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: Randall probably would have sucked it up a little bit more. Yeah,

654
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: So like, yeah, it's a little bit different, but I

655
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: also know that hockey players do that in the regular step.

656
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: There you go, I will say I wish that the

657
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: Wolves would have felt there was a little more at

658
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: stake last night, maybe short of a gold medal game,

659
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: and a little bit more at stake given their effort.

660
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: And I ranted early because I'm well aware who was

661
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: missing from our club, but I didn't hear any of this,

662
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: any of the same emphasies on who Philly was missing.

663
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: And I know you can argue, but yeah, but they

664
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: were used to playing without those players because they're out

665
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: so much. But I just I just I just get.

666
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: I don't like when we go down that road of

667
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: just resigning ourselves too. There's no explaining it when you

668
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: have your missing those two pieces were not used to

669
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: playing them, end of story. I don't think that explains

670
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: getting run out of the gym the way they did

671
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 1: last night at home, the night after Philly had also

672
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: played on the road.

673
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: No, yeah, it was growth Stan honestly, like there's no

674
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: other way to describe it. Now. Of course you're missing

675
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert, which I hope that people who are always

676
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: down on him watch last night's game and say, look,

677
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: this guy is incredibly impactful because you see what he

678
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: does for the defense when he is out there and

679
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: what happens when he is not out there. It's an

680
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: unbelievable transition from a very good defensive team to just

681
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: an absolutely horrendous defensive team, and Gobert covers up so

682
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: many of those things. So hopefully that kind of raises

683
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 2: some appreciation among Wolf fans and other NBA fans who

684
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: may not kind of realize it as much. But certainly

685
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: you can even excuse if you're missing Gobert and Nasried

686
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: and you know, Baron Jay and and Rmandel and fall

687
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 2: trouble early and so you've got to get really wonky

688
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 2: with giants. But if you just like put in a

689
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 2: requisite effort and be competitive all the way and even

690
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: if you fall short at the end, He's like, ah, shoot,

691
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: it didn't go for it well for us. But I

692
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: mean they were really handled for most of that game,

693
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: and you know, I think it got to like fourteen

694
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: or eleven in the second half there, but never really close.

695
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: And that's the most disappointing part of it, is like

696
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: they needed to find a way to answer the bell

697
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 2: better than they did. It just was a terrible performance.

698
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: Hey, real quick on aside, what is how do you

699
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: pronounce Nurkic's first name. It starts it is Use. If

700
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: that's what I thought, We'll hold on one second. Hold

701
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: on to your hat. Are you sitting down right now?

702
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: I am thankfully breaking news. It broke about an hour ago,

703
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: but I don't want to startle you too much. Utah

704
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: Jazz starting center use of Nurkic will undergo a surgical

705
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: procedure on his nose Wednesday that will sidelight him for

706
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: the remainder of the season. So it sounds like the

707
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: Commissioner's finds have really gotten through to Danny Aingel company

708
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City.

709
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw a joke on Twitter about that where

710
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: like Age pulled the got your nose trick on you

711
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: for nurk It like you'n the kids and he's got

712
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 2: a stumb between his two fingers and say, hey, we

713
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 2: gotta we gotta have surgery on that. Yeah, that's fantastic. Uh,

714
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 2: you know it is like it's it's an onerous part

715
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: of this league and what I what I don't like,

716
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: and I understand, like when you're in a position like

717
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: the Jazz, the Wolves, weren't it before they got asked?

718
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: A lot of teams go through it, and the the

719
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: allure of getting the franchise guy is so enticing and

720
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: so impactful that you kind of gotta pull out all

721
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: of these stops. But I don't like the constant defense

722
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: of it as well. You know, this is just the

723
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: way the system is going. You have to acknowledge this

724
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: is terrible for the game. You just have to acknowledge

725
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: that a mockery is being made of it. And I

726
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: don't know exactly how they fix it, but I just

727
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: don't want the full throated defenses of will the Jazz

728
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: are actually really smart here? No, this is really unfortunate

729
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 2: that they're in this position and what they're having to do.

730
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: It does kind of hit at the integrity of the sport.

731
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: And a lot of other teams do it too, and

732
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: that's it's it is the worst part about the NBA

733
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: right now.

734
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: I've got two league wide issues I want to try

735
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: to explore because I don't want to go too deep

736
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: into the Wolves feel because we get back into that

737
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: issue of hyperventilating over any one game. I just want

738
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: people to properly examine everybody who was out in that game.

739
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: This was actually Kendrick Perkins brought this to my attention.

740
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: He put another category of preach and it's a tweet

741
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 1: from Rashad Phillips and he writes, the NBA has tried

742
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: to get away from point guards and replace them with

743
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: wing initiators, and that experiment has been a complete disaster.

744
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: Bring back the point guard, Yoda age old question. So

745
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: is it that the league has gone away from the

746
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: pure point guard because it's fashionable to goother direction? Is

747
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: it because they just don't exist? Are there aren't as

748
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: many of them as before? Does that person have a

749
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: point here? What do you make of that?

750
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I think that the game has evolved to

751
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: a point where, generally speaking, forever and ever, that position

752
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: was the little guy, right, yeah, six one and under,

753
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: and that they were the quarterback, and they ran the

754
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: show and they facilitated for everyone else, and they thought

755
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: the game and did it that way, and that was

756
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: really really important for a team. But the problem that

757
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: has arisen for that particular player is that nowadays the

758
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 2: game has evolved to a degree where there are there

759
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 2: is so much higher skill level offensively at every other

760
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: position that you really have a hard time. I'm overcoming

761
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: a size disadvantage with a player like that and so

762
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: they will, you know, if your fore man can can

763
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: handle it and shoot it from the outside, they will

764
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: pick and roll and hunt that one who is six

765
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: feet tall, and they will just attack over and over

766
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: and over again. And a lot of times Dan that

767
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: point guard, not all the time, but a lot of

768
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: times was not a shooter at all and not a

769
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 2: threat to score. And you just have to be a

770
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: threat to score every you know, everywhere else in this

771
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: game right now. And so it is rendered that position

772
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 2: demonstrably different than what it used to be, and it's

773
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: easier to kind of find the weaknesses from those traditional

774
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: point guards and exploit them. And so I think that

775
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: the answer is probably trying to develop that position just

776
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: with six five guys more and sixty six guys. But

777
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: that's a really hard thing to pull off, and I

778
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: think we've been slow to sort of embrace that part

779
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: uh the mental side of the game with the with

780
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: the bigger guys. Just the smaller guys were the little

781
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: smart guys that really just had their you know, the

782
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: puppet masters, and that's just gone away because they are

783
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: too easy to attack on the defensive end.

784
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: Well, what you're kind of articulating here is a a

785
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: not so general reminder that Magic Johnson was absurd professional

786
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: basket anomally anomally exactly unicorns.

787
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 2: There just are not those guys that may That's why

788
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: he's whatever top four in the history of the league

789
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: is because he could do everything that Chris Paul could do.

790
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: But he was also six y nine correct and and

791
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: so just like we have not seen anyone like that

792
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 2: since Lebron is probably closest clo and so it's just

793
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: so so difficult to do that and to cultivate that

794
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: feel as you come up through AU and do all

795
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: these things. It's just it's really really hard. Man.

796
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: Have you heard about Paul Pierce's idea to spice up

797
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: the game?

798
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: Oh? Boy, I have not. I'm buckled up for this.

799
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: Be ready for this one. He believes. Now look, remember

800
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: he's got a podcast and you got to fill it, right,

801
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: you got to fill it with something. He believes that

802
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: the NBA should change the three point line to a

803
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: to it what he would he calls an led line.

804
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: Let me explain, like, you can turn it off, turn

805
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: it back on in certain times of the game, like

806
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: if you're down ten with three minutes in the fourth,

807
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: it's just ridiculous. I'd watch games will be the next

808
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: three minutes of all threes, like forty eight minutes a game.

809
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: The three point line shoul don't be on only like

810
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: thirty minutes of the forty eight. Then we're going to

811
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: see who's got game. Then you're going to have to

812
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: get buckets. Now you ain't just going to be launching.

813
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: You're going to have to get money. So how about

814
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: the led line instead of the three point line changes

815
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: at various strategic points. How you decide when it changes

816
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: or not? I don't know what do you think of

817
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: that idea?

818
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: I think that's the rub Dan is just trying to

819
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: figure out when it would go on and when it

820
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: would go off. Here's another one that I've found that

821
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 2: it is an interesting, totally out of the box idea

822
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: semi related someone I can't remember who brought it up.

823
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 2: But what if every team in the league could set

824
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: its three point line wherever it wanted or not have

825
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: one at all? Like baseball teams build their ballparks with

826
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: different aventure, you know, why couldn't individual teams change those things?

827
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: And then you build your team and cater to it,

828
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: you know, to excel and however you figure obviously you

829
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: know there's a certain minimum length the distance that the

830
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: line would have to be, but then you could play

831
00:46:53,560 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: around with it. So anything I like thinking about things.

832
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: I think both of those ideas are probably far petched.

833
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: But there certainly is an over reliance on the three

834
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: right now that has changed the way the game is

835
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: played and then the way that you watch it. So

836
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: any kind of exploration of changing it in some way,

837
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: shape or form to breathe in a little bit more

838
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: of that midrange. That's one thing that Ant has done

839
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: really well this year is incorporate the mid range, and

840
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 2: it's been great for him. So anything more that would

841
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 2: kind of get some variance in the way teams play

842
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: out off for it.

843
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: One last item, Johnny Athletic joining us, brought to you

844
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: by RBC Wealth Management. Of all the plans that are

845
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: bit about a million thrown out, give me the one,

846
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: not necessarily that you like the most, but the one

847
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: you hear is gaining attention and maybe favor in the

848
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: NBA offices, or maybe there's more than one for all

849
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: I know, or it's going to be a combination of things.

850
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: What have you heard that you think the league seems

851
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: to be gravitating towards.

852
00:47:55,600 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: It seems like Dan that the talk of expanding the

853
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: lottery and flattening the odds even more is something that

854
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 2: is getting a lot of consideration. Maybe if you expand

855
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 2: to include the teams in the first round of the

856
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 2: playoffs in the lottery pool, maybe you expand it to

857
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: the first two rounds, I don't know, to try and incentivize,

858
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: you know, getting teams into the playoffs and going and

859
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 2: making that a goal to go for it, and then

860
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: flattening the odds even more so that it penalizes the

861
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Speaker 2: tankers even more. Now, one of the reasons that I

862
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 2: think this one is getting more attention is that it's

863
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: a relatively simple rule to implement and to explain. There

864
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: are a lot of really convoluted, complicated Well, if we

865
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: had this wheel where every team got you know, a

866
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,959
Speaker 2: different pick in you know, in a twenty year span,

867
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: you know, of that stuff is really hard to explain

868
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 2: to your fans. But this one is easy to explain,

869
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: and there may be unintended consequences. You could absolutely see

870
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: the Thunder losing in the first round in the playoffs

871
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: and then getting the number one pick and getting a

872
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: webbin Yama type player. That's the risk that you run,

873
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: but it also is cleaner than a lot of the

874
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Speaker 2: other suggestions, and so I think that there's probably that

875
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 2: would be where I would bet it would go. I

876
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 2: think it could go any number of ways, but I

877
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Speaker 2: think something clean and simple to explain like that might

878
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: be the one that gets a little more momentum.

879
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: Here, wolves, we got were on a road trip now, right,

880
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: is it's next three?

881
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? Portland's the Clippers in Denver coming up with the

882
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: big road trip.

883
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: Let's not mess around this is it right? We said

884
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: post All Star break, let's get serious.

885
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: Yes, it is go time. For sure, you get getting

886
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: Rudy back will be will be helpful. But yeah, I

887
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 2: mean you know they're still they got lucky yesterday you

888
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 2: lay the egg. Yeah, the Lakers lose, so that's fine,

889
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: but they also really miss chances of game grounds. Yeah,

890
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: so you have to take advantage of these things. And

891
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: I do think I want to see this team start

892
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: to click it into gear because I've been waiting all

893
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 2: year for them to really say all right now we

894
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 2: mean business. And every time I think they're getting close,

895
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: then you get a game like yesterday and get disappointed,

896
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: so they usually play better on the road. So we'll

897
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: see if this kind of really kind of starts to

898
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: put their butts in gear and get going. But they do.

899
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: It's go time here, and it's time.

900
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: It's not messing around the last item for sure. Point

901
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: of clarification. So regarding the flagrance on Rudy, how does

902
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: it work the rest of the season in terms of

903
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 1: him missing more time?

904
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Speaker 2: Very dangerous right now, Dan, So he just missed the

905
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 2: one game with his seventh flagrant foul point. Now every

906
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: point he gets going forward, so that means even just

907
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: a flagrant one, not a flagrant to in agestion, but

908
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: a flagrant one brings that two games. So any time

909
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: that he closes out on a three pointer and lands

910
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: in someone's landing spot and he gets a flagrant there,

911
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,959
Speaker 2: he's out for two games. And so he has got

912
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: to really be careful with what he does. Every time

913
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: he flails his arms the way he does, gets a

914
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: flagger one, that's two games. And he is way too

915
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 2: important to this team, and so he's going to have

916
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: to walk a fine line between being aggressive and being

917
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: great at defense that he does and not making the

918
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: silly you know, irresponsible kind of actions that bring a

919
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: flagger one or god'sbeen a flagrant two and then he's

920
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: out for multiple games. It's just like the Wolves can't

921
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 2: afford it right now. So he's got a dial in.

922
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: Do you think he gets it?

923
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: He definitely understands it. But I'm a little troubled Dan,

924
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: because I didn't like the response that he gave after

925
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 2: we talked. I asked him extensively about it on you know,

926
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Speaker 2: when he got his last one on Friday, and he

927
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: kept saying, well, yeah, they hit me in the head

928
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Speaker 2: all the time, and they never get they never get

929
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Speaker 2: a flagrant. And I think he's right about that, Dan.

930
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: I do think he gets hit a lot, and in

931
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 2: plays that would be flagrant followed for him that are

932
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: not against him. But that does not matter at all

933
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Speaker 2: for his action. It doesn't justify his kind of play,

934
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Speaker 2: and so there's no retribution or revenge that you're the

935
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Speaker 2: league is to look at it said, yeah, you got

936
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Speaker 2: hit two plays ago, so we're gonna let you get

937
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: away with this one. It's just that's the way that

938
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Speaker 2: he is. This is the way that they call it.

939
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Speaker 2: So I hope that it starts to think in But

940
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 2: I fear with the way that he responded on Friday

941
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Speaker 2: night that he feels more like a victim, and I

942
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Speaker 2: don't think that's the mentality they have right now.

943
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Speaker 1: No One, true great stuff. As always, my friend will

944
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Speaker 1: be in touch. Thank you, Johnny. All right, Thanks Dan,

945
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Speaker 1: John Krazinski. Brought to you by RBC Wealth Management. Don't forge.

946
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Speaker 1: We get at four point thirty this afternoon. Wes Walls

947
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: will join and we'll chat with al Michaels at five

948
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Speaker 1: thirty tonight. I think you're going to enjoy that. We

949
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Speaker 1: we chatted with him before the show, had to tape

950
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Speaker 1: it then, and we'll run that back at five thirty

951
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Speaker 1: this evening. I do want to get to some more

952
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: Puck talk leftover from yesterday. We spent obviously almost the

953
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: entire program on the sermons on it yesterday, and we'll

954
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Speaker 1: get to a little bit more tragic talk as well.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned.