WEBVTT - URINATION COMFORTS & SECRET PLUMBERS 0:00:00.700 --> 0:00:03.100 This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:06.110 AM 640, the Gary and Shannon show on demand on 0:00:06.150 --> 0:00:07.270 the iHeartRadio app. 0:00:09.710 --> 0:00:12.309 Don't be worried. It's a good story. Okay. It's a 0:00:12.410 --> 0:00:17.410 good story. So I had a toilet in my house. 0:00:17.530 --> 0:00:17.850 Right. 0:00:19.989 --> 0:00:24.220 That's where you're supposed to go. Oh, okay. We're doing 0:00:24.260 --> 0:00:25.700 blues songs now. Got it. 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:31.010 And the toilet needed replacing. And now my husband is 0:00:31.090 --> 0:00:35.269 not a plumber. My brother is a plumber. And when 0:00:35.290 --> 0:00:38.890 we needed another toilet replaced, my brother was in town. 0:00:39.590 --> 0:00:44.479 He replaced the toilet within maybe four minutes and 32 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:48.140 seconds while telling a story, not breaking a sweat, not 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.400 even really looking at the toilet, looking at us the 0:00:50.420 --> 0:00:50.880 whole time. 0:00:50.979 --> 0:00:52.960 Ten of those a month. It was second nature. 0:00:53.020 --> 0:00:53.200 Right. 0:00:53.260 --> 0:00:55.000 You do one every 10 years. So when the. 0:00:54.980 --> 0:00:58.560 Next toilet needed to be dealt with, I think my 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:00.700 husband thought, I could do that. 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.640 I saw Andy do it. I could do that. And 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:05.080 he did. 0:01:05.220 --> 0:01:09.660 He replaced the toilet. But there was a problem with 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:10.780 the way the toilet sat. 0:01:10.810 --> 0:01:13.630 Okay. It was a little wobbly. 0:01:14.610 --> 0:01:16.830 And I'd ask him from time to time, hey, the 0:01:17.250 --> 0:01:18.570 toilet's wobbling again. 0:01:19.209 --> 0:01:21.470 It felt like a janky ass toilet. Okay. 0:01:21.650 --> 0:01:26.480 It felt like it was a Bad motel. Like a 0:01:26.530 --> 0:01:27.360 Haiti toilet. 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:31.220 Yes. I have experience with those. 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:31.800 You do. 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:35.280 And I have an experience as recently as this last 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:37.720 weekend with a bad hotel room in Buffalo where I 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:41.479 had no cold water. Literally, you would turn on the 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:43.900 faucet in the sink, the cold water, and nothing would 0:01:43.940 --> 0:01:47.149 come out. Only the hot water would come out. And 0:01:47.230 --> 0:01:50.060 in the shower, I had about 22 seconds of Before 0:01:50.100 --> 0:01:53.170 it became scalding. So I'm fresh off of like a 0:01:53.230 --> 0:01:58.990 bad hotel stay because it's Buffalo. And I come back and, 0:01:59.210 --> 0:02:01.190 you know, and this week I'm already kind of in 0:02:01.210 --> 0:02:02.490 a pissy mood because of. 0:02:02.490 --> 0:02:04.000 You know, Buffalo. Sure. 0:02:04.670 --> 0:02:07.320 Anyway, so I say to him, I'm thinking I've had 0:02:07.340 --> 0:02:09.679 it with this toilet. You know, I've freaking had it 0:02:09.700 --> 0:02:11.279 with this toilet. I'm going to say something. I don't 0:02:11.300 --> 0:02:13.100 want to say something to my husband because I want 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.260 him to. feel like he did a good job because 0:02:16.310 --> 0:02:18.750 he did do a good job. I'm super impressed with 0:02:19.250 --> 0:02:21.329 not being a plumber and replacing the toilet. 0:02:21.389 --> 0:02:24.070 Like, whoa, huge deal. That's awesome. 0:02:24.940 --> 0:02:28.900 I don't want to diminish the awesomeness of that by 0:02:28.980 --> 0:02:33.649 saying this is a janky ass toilet that wobbles every 0:02:33.669 --> 0:02:37.030 time I pee. Like, I don't want to use it anymore, 0:02:37.169 --> 0:02:38.470 you know? And I know this is going to be 0:02:38.490 --> 0:02:38.750 a thing. 0:02:38.770 --> 0:02:40.610 I don't want to use the toilet anymore. I just don't. 0:02:40.810 --> 0:02:42.950 I just don't. I'll go find a bucket. Because I, like, 0:02:43.050 --> 0:02:45.900 find myself waking up in the morning and being like, ah, 0:02:45.900 --> 0:02:48.260 I got to go use that toilet. That wobbles. You 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.000 know what I mean? It's on my mind. 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.799 So finally yesterday, I was, like, thinking to myself, I'm like, 0:02:52.980 --> 0:02:56.330 I'm going to call a The guy's going to come in, 0:02:56.570 --> 0:02:58.530 get this toilet fixed, and. 0:02:58.530 --> 0:03:01.680 Nobody will ever know. Nobody needs to know. But that was, like, 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:03.800 eating at me. I was like, I can't lie. 0:03:03.820 --> 0:03:06.760 Like, it's a lie about, like, having a secret plumber 0:03:06.820 --> 0:03:09.980 come in and fix the toilet you mounted. 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:11.120 Like, I don't know. 0:03:11.340 --> 0:03:12.239 Well, you know what I mean. 0:03:12.300 --> 0:03:12.400 Sure. 0:03:12.419 --> 0:03:15.419 Like, that you put in or whatever. Like, I don't know. 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:16.389 It felt.... 0:03:17.810 --> 0:03:20.109 So I had to weigh the situation. Do I tell 0:03:20.169 --> 0:03:25.869 my husband and therefore diminish his achievement? Or do I 0:03:26.310 --> 0:03:29.720 lie by omission and have a secret plumber come in 0:03:29.810 --> 0:03:31.020 and fix the toilet. 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:34.139 When he's at work? But urination comfort. I'm what? 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:35.420 No. 0:03:36.060 --> 0:03:41.200 Comfort while urinating. Urination comfort. You thought I was making 0:03:41.220 --> 0:03:42.920 up words. I didn't know what was happening. 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.640 You've been pretty good with your thesaurus lately, so I 0:03:45.660 --> 0:03:49.690 didn't know what was happening. So I decided to mention 0:03:49.730 --> 0:03:52.550 it to my husband yesterday. And I said, I want 0:03:52.570 --> 0:03:56.060 to have a conversation with you. It's very difficult. I 0:03:56.180 --> 0:04:00.680 don't like this toilet. It wobbles and it feels janky. 0:04:02.140 --> 0:04:06.340 And he called a plumber, had the plumber come out yesterday. 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:10.970 The plumber fixed the toilet. It's good as new. No harm, 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.870 no foul. His pride isn't hurt. He was like, I 0:04:13.890 --> 0:04:15.130 don't want to deal with it because it looks like 0:04:15.150 --> 0:04:16.650 I'm going to have to take it off again. And 0:04:16.910 --> 0:04:18.549 I know that I don't want to deal with that. 0:04:18.990 --> 0:04:20.250 And it was no issue. 0:04:20.570 --> 0:04:21.029 No issue. 0:04:21.330 --> 0:04:22.570 I thought it was going to be a thing. It 0:04:22.589 --> 0:04:24.680 was not a thing. Did he watch the plumber see 0:04:24.690 --> 0:04:27.460 what the fix was? No, he wasn't home. Beto came over. 0:04:28.100 --> 0:04:28.380 Fixed it. 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:32.720 Fixed the toilet in like 22 minutes. And it was 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.500 all good. I paid Beto in cash, you know, so 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:37.810 it's quick and easy. There's no record. 0:04:38.410 --> 0:04:41.310 So it's almost like it was almost like the secret plumber. 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:44.539 But I feel good about it because there's no lie 0:04:44.580 --> 0:04:48.260 about the toilet, you know? Well, and like if I had. 0:04:48.140 --> 0:04:51.040 Beto come in unbeknownst to my husband and fix the toilet, 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:56.170 like he would have noticed that the caulking had been different. 0:04:56.230 --> 0:04:56.470 Right. 0:04:56.490 --> 0:04:59.210 There was different caulking. Guys would notice that. 0:04:59.370 --> 0:04:59.630 Right. 0:05:00.450 --> 0:05:02.550 That's a good point. And listen, I know that your 0:05:02.570 --> 0:05:05.300 marriage has been through a lot. And this is one 0:05:05.339 --> 0:05:05.539 of them. 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:09.440 Listen, my existence is what you're referring to, and you're 100% right. 0:05:10.250 --> 0:05:12.390 Just me existing is a lot to get through. 0:05:12.430 --> 0:05:14.590 I get it. It's a lot. So I'm happy that 0:05:14.630 --> 0:05:17.510 he didn't leave you. Okay. Well, you didn't need to 0:05:17.550 --> 0:05:21.390 go that far. It was just a story about, you know. 0:05:21.430 --> 0:05:22.299 Isn't it a great story? 0:05:22.330 --> 0:05:25.460 It's a great story, and I'm happy. Makes me happy. 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:27.600 I did think it was going to end poorly. 0:05:27.620 --> 0:05:28.090 So did I. 0:05:28.140 --> 0:05:30.790 When you started with it. I did too. Cause you, 0:05:30.910 --> 0:05:33.170 you had said something about that. I thought feelings were 0:05:33.190 --> 0:05:36.270 going to be hurt over the toilet. Um, no big deal. 0:05:36.370 --> 0:05:36.990 No big deal. 0:05:39.570 --> 0:05:39.810 Good. 0:05:40.750 --> 0:05:43.409 Anyway, listen, we don't do a lot of good news 0:05:43.529 --> 0:05:47.979 on this show. And, uh, today's show doesn't start out 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.980 with good news either, but it doesn't. Well, listen, this, 0:05:51.420 --> 0:05:55.800 this is a strange story out of Dubai and Saudi Arabia. 0:05:55.980 --> 0:05:59.600 And now Israel, by the way, the people on board 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:05.760 this plane, there was a fly Dubai airplane. One pilot 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:07.919 tried to stab the other in the cockpit. And then 0:06:07.980 --> 0:06:11.240 according to the Israeli prime minister, tried to crash that 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.219 airplane before it made an emergency landing in Saudi Arabia. 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.760 The rest of the people on that plane are being 0:06:17.900 --> 0:06:23.279 flown to Israel. Within the next few moments, we expect 0:06:23.300 --> 0:06:25.650 that plane to actually touch down. So those People are 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:29.780 going to be reunited with their families after everybody now 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:33.619 knows what happened on that plane. 0:06:33.900 --> 0:06:38.050 It plunged 18,000 feet at one point. We'll get into 0:06:38.089 --> 0:06:39.850 all the details that we know when we come back. 0:06:41.410 --> 0:06:45.030 You're listening to Gary and Shannon On Demand from KFI AM640. 0:06:47.580 --> 0:06:50.200 Remember how we told you that woman was going to 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:55.870 be put to death in Tennessee for killing a classmate 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:56.460 when she was 18? 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:59.110 Yeah, not so fast. 0:06:59.150 --> 0:07:03.810 She was due to die by lethal injection, but asked 0:07:03.850 --> 0:07:06.510 at the 11th hour to be shot by an all-female 0:07:06.589 --> 0:07:11.120 firing squad instead. Now, do you get to ask for 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.940 all females or is that your right as a female 0:07:13.980 --> 0:07:16.340 to have like a frisking rule? Like I want to 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:17.560 be frisked by females. 0:07:18.290 --> 0:07:21.150 Seems very, very 2026. It's very funny. 0:07:21.850 --> 0:07:25.550 But I dug into yesterday to find out why she 0:07:25.630 --> 0:07:28.370 was given the death penalty at such a young age 0:07:28.430 --> 0:07:31.780 for one murder, because it just it's hard to get 0:07:31.820 --> 0:07:33.920 the death penalty anywhere, really. 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:34.660 It really is. 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:40.210 She had carved a pentagram into this girl's chest. She 0:07:40.230 --> 0:07:42.950 had lured her to the forest because she thought that 0:07:42.990 --> 0:07:47.020 this girl was a romantic rival from the. 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:48.980 Guy that she liked. She killed her. 0:07:49.500 --> 0:07:53.250 She carved a pentagram into this little girl's chest. And 0:07:53.310 --> 0:07:55.630 bashed in her skull and then kept part of her 0:07:55.690 --> 0:07:56.890 skull as a keepsake. 0:07:57.030 --> 0:07:59.390 Yeah, I do remember some of the weird details of that. 0:07:59.410 --> 0:08:03.060 Like you have to show evidence of pure evil, like 0:08:03.140 --> 0:08:05.700 pure bad seed to get the death penalty. 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:09.020 And she absolutely showed that. The Sixth Circuit Court of 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:13.470 Appeals this morning gave her a stay of execution because 0:08:13.490 --> 0:08:17.070 they wanted to consider whether childhood sex abuse was taken 0:08:17.110 --> 0:08:19.780 into account, that she had suffered. was taken into account 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.520 when she was first sentenced. So it's not clear how 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:27.650 long this thing is at a stay. Well, the people 0:08:27.810 --> 0:08:32.969 on board that very violent airplane incident, they were on 0:08:33.010 --> 0:08:35.630 their way from Dubai to Israel. They have finally landed 0:08:35.750 --> 0:08:38.640 in Israel and are being reunited with their families. A 0:08:38.820 --> 0:08:44.030 fly Dubai Boeing 737 was flying to Tel Aviv from 0:08:44.070 --> 0:08:47.910 the United Arab Emirates earlier today, cruising at about 34,000 feet. 0:08:48.470 --> 0:08:51.100 One of the pilots tried to take control of what 0:08:51.290 --> 0:08:55.500 Israeli sources say was an attempt at hijacking. Jeff Paul 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.000 is a correspondent for Fox. 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.250 After it was flying for about two and a half hours, 0:08:59.470 --> 0:09:02.170 it was getting near Jordanian airspace. And that's when that 0:09:02.309 --> 0:09:06.809 flight broke out. And passengers on board reported hearing, obviously, 0:09:06.830 --> 0:09:08.729 a lot of commotion. And then the flight just took 0:09:08.770 --> 0:09:11.640 a nosedive going down by about 16,000 feet. 0:09:11.700 --> 0:09:17.720 Could you imagine in one minute, too? Not a gradual decline. 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:21.760 If you're on that plane, this is the end. You're 0:09:21.780 --> 0:09:25.820 going to see this movie because it is cinematic. Passengers 0:09:25.900 --> 0:09:29.880 were able to subdue the guy, the co-pilot, who stabbed 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:34.350 the pilot repeatedly, including in the abdomen, while other pilots 0:09:34.450 --> 0:09:37.750 landed the plane safely. But this was definitely one of 0:09:37.790 --> 0:09:40.370 those stories where the passengers stepped in to take this 0:09:40.429 --> 0:09:40.870 guy down. 0:09:41.350 --> 0:09:44.780 The plane dropped, according to FlightAware data that tracks these flights, 0:09:44.860 --> 0:09:49.439 it went from 34,000 feet to under 16,000 in just 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:53.230 12 minutes. It was eventually landed by a couple of 0:09:53.470 --> 0:09:57.930 off-duty European pilots who happened to be on board. And 0:09:57.970 --> 0:10:01.100 I guess there are photos that show... that the rudder 0:10:01.420 --> 0:10:04.980 on the airplane back in the tail was destroyed during 0:10:05.059 --> 0:10:06.500 this event for some reason. 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.060 When I first read about this and it was the 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:13.569 co-pilot stabbing the pilot, I'm thinking, did they get into 0:10:13.630 --> 0:10:16.589 some sort of personal dispute? Did they get into some 0:10:16.650 --> 0:10:21.929 sort of fight that it wasn't terrorism? But apparently when passengers, 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:24.140 along with a member of the crew, broke into the 0:10:24.179 --> 0:10:28.900 cockpit after the plane started nosediving, they found the co-pilot 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.449 trying to sabotage the plane systems. 0:10:32.290 --> 0:10:37.120 So whatever that means. I don't know. You don't have 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.080 any experience in the cockpit of a 737 MAX? I don't. 0:10:40.220 --> 0:10:40.720 Do you? 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:43.819 Actually, I have been in the cockpit of a 737 MAX. 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.700 I saw the cockpit of a 737 MAX. 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:50.900 Yeah, exactly. I've sat in one. The IDF, which is 0:10:51.250 --> 0:10:55.730 Israel's security agency, the Shin Bet is the security agency, 0:10:55.870 --> 0:11:01.170 and Mossad, all three agencies, say that this was likely terrorism. 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.559 The plane had made its way, at least according to 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:09.360 that report from Jeff Paul, into Jordanian airspace or right 0:11:09.460 --> 0:11:14.440 before it had reached Jordanian airspace. And if that's the 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:19.160 case and that this was terrorism, you could argue that 0:11:19.570 --> 0:11:24.390 it looks like the Staber pilot was trying to literally 0:11:24.450 --> 0:11:28.030 put the plane down in Israel. It would have had 0:11:28.090 --> 0:11:30.260 just a couple more minutes of flight time before it 0:11:30.290 --> 0:11:33.760 would have been an Israeli airspace, and that could have 0:11:33.780 --> 0:11:35.939 been where they were targeting to put this thing down. 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:40.260 The plane did make an emergency landing in Tabuk, Saudi Arabia, 0:11:40.300 --> 0:11:43.800 which is way in the northwestern part of Saudi Arabia, 0:11:44.260 --> 0:11:47.910 considered not just a military base there, but a civilian 0:11:48.070 --> 0:11:51.890 airfield in the kingdom. Once they got onto Saudi soil... 0:11:52.390 --> 0:11:54.210 There were a bunch of interviews that were done and 0:11:54.250 --> 0:11:57.310 you saw photos that had come out from people. Here's 0:11:57.370 --> 0:12:01.260 a question that I still have in these incidents. I 0:12:01.290 --> 0:12:03.500 don't know if this is an age thing. I don't 0:12:03.510 --> 0:12:06.920 know if this is a way that people cope with 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:11.700 disasters nowadays that you grab your phone and you start recording. 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:16.760 If I felt like this was the end, I have 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:21.100 a hard time believing that my phone video option would 0:12:21.140 --> 0:12:24.420 be anywhere on the list of things i was about 0:12:24.460 --> 0:12:25.040 to do i. 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.440 Don't think your brain is wired to think like that 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:30.819 but i think when you grow up videoing everything in 0:12:30.860 --> 0:12:36.560 your life that is your reflex i mean in all 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:40.179 honesty it's probably a general positive thing that we got 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.500 to see the heroism of some of the people that 0:12:42.540 --> 0:12:45.679 were that did jump into action here yeah. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:49.520 I also am curious about what sort of flight marshal 0:12:49.580 --> 0:12:52.970 style program Israel has? It would seem that it would 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.650 be very robust. And would they have air marshals on 0:12:56.690 --> 0:12:59.430 a flight or whatever their term is for an Israeli 0:12:59.470 --> 0:13:02.390 air marshal? Would they have them on this flight from 0:13:02.450 --> 0:13:03.670 Dubai to Israel? 0:13:03.770 --> 0:13:06.689 You know what I'm interested in, just because I'm curious, 0:13:07.070 --> 0:13:13.350 sociology wise, and it sounds macabre, but On the heels 0:13:13.410 --> 0:13:16.770 of the 25th anniversary of 9-11, we heard all those 0:13:16.850 --> 0:13:19.150 calls people made to loved ones, right? 0:13:20.790 --> 0:13:21.410 I love you. 0:13:21.730 --> 0:13:24.150 Something's going on. I just want you to know I 0:13:24.220 --> 0:13:28.160 love you. All these messages of love, and it gives 0:13:28.179 --> 0:13:31.280 you chills. It's overwhelming when you listen to these messages. 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.480 I wonder how many people called out on this flight 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.599 when it's nosediving, 14,000 feet in less than 30 seconds. 0:13:40.410 --> 0:13:43.200 And how many people turned it on themselves and took 0:13:43.260 --> 0:13:48.340 video of themselves as opposed to calling out and talking 0:13:48.380 --> 0:13:53.870 to somebody? How many people made it about what they 0:13:53.910 --> 0:13:55.490 were going through in that moment? I don't know the 0:13:55.550 --> 0:14:00.569 answer to that, but it's a stark difference. Compared to 0:14:00.610 --> 0:14:01.870 what it would have been 25 years ago. 0:14:01.929 --> 0:14:02.219 Yeah. 0:14:02.270 --> 0:14:02.410 Yeah. 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:09.190 Again, the passengers have made that continuation flight and apparently 0:14:09.230 --> 0:14:13.010 have landed in Tel Aviv. So they are now in 0:14:13.050 --> 0:14:15.490 front of TV cameras and reuniting with family for the 0:14:15.530 --> 0:14:21.860 first time since this absolutely blood-curdling, terroristic– and I mean 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:26.040 that in a terrifying way, not necessarily terrorism because we 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.770 don't know for sure yet. But just the idea is– 0:14:30.700 --> 0:14:32.120 should strike fear into people. 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.790 Well, it shouldn't strike enough fear that you're going to 0:14:37.830 --> 0:14:38.510 change your life. 0:14:38.630 --> 0:14:43.610 No, don't change your flight or anything like that. Coming back, 0:14:43.950 --> 0:14:46.480 the Caleb Flynn case. I know you guys talked about 0:14:46.500 --> 0:14:51.000 it last week. Finally got a guilty verdict in that case. 0:14:51.810 --> 0:14:56.390 Because the jury didn't buy the defense theory of a break-in. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.280 This guy was not a good guy. 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:03.380 It was that whole defense of, yeah, my client is 0:15:03.420 --> 0:15:05.500 an a-hole. He was cheating on his wife, but that 0:15:05.540 --> 0:15:08.120 doesn't make him a murderer. How many times have we 0:15:08.140 --> 0:15:08.520 heard this? 0:15:10.020 --> 0:15:13.990 You're listening to Gary and Shannon On Demand from KFI AM640. 0:15:16.210 --> 0:15:19.020 Took you through this true crime story that's playing out 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.860 this week in Ohio last week. It is the story 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:27.140 about the murder of Ashley Flynn. She was a mom 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:31.520 of two preteen girls. She's a popular coach, middle school 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:36.510 volleyball coach, I believe it was. Just an all-American family 0:15:36.610 --> 0:15:41.390 living in Tip City, Ohio. No crime to speak of 0:15:41.550 --> 0:15:42.290 in this place. 0:15:42.690 --> 0:15:43.490 And someone. 0:15:44.470 --> 0:15:47.150 Shoots and kills her as she sleeps in the night. 0:15:47.790 --> 0:15:54.120 Her husband is in the room with the girls, the daughters, 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.800 and he maintains that it must have been an intruder 0:15:57.860 --> 0:15:58.520 that came in. 0:15:59.100 --> 0:16:00.600 And shot and killed his wife. 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.560 Now, on its face, that story lacks any sort of 0:16:04.620 --> 0:16:06.900 logic because, as I said, there is no crime in 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:07.420 Tip City. 0:16:07.580 --> 0:16:09.720 It's just not a thing there. There is no intruders. 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:10.840 This isn't Encino. 0:16:11.940 --> 0:16:14.090 I make that as a joke, but, I mean, Encino, 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.510 you shouldn't have intruders, but even in Encino, you do. 0:16:16.770 --> 0:16:17.990 You don't in Tip City. 0:16:19.550 --> 0:16:22.650 Among other things, he said that he was asleep on 0:16:22.670 --> 0:16:25.720 the couch when she was shot and killed and that 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.380 he hadn't been moving around. But of course, we saw 0:16:28.540 --> 0:16:33.080 as evidence that was completely different. His electronic devices documented 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:37.240 that he was up, he was moving around, movement, activity, 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.280 et cetera, in the hours that led up to her murder. 0:16:39.300 --> 0:16:41.790 Yeah. And he says that he fell asleep on the couch. 0:16:41.810 --> 0:16:43.950 He was sleeping on the couch because he wasn't feeling 0:16:43.990 --> 0:16:46.670 well or something. And then he had heard something. He 0:16:46.690 --> 0:16:50.590 went into the daughter's room and he was sleeping there. Anyway, 0:16:50.610 --> 0:16:54.210 there's tons of body cam footage that showed this. 0:16:54.090 --> 0:16:55.930 Guy playing the part. 0:16:57.070 --> 0:17:00.410 When police arrived, he's hysterical and he's doing all the 0:17:00.470 --> 0:17:04.359 right things. Ashley's mother turns up. He falls to his 0:17:04.390 --> 0:17:07.639 knees on the lawn as she arrives doing all the 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:08.100 right things. 0:17:08.140 --> 0:17:12.730 He's playing the playbook. Which is kind of unusual in 0:17:12.790 --> 0:17:15.490 a high-profile case like this. Usually the husband does something 0:17:15.510 --> 0:17:16.230 that's hinky. 0:17:16.430 --> 0:17:16.790 Yes. 0:17:17.290 --> 0:17:20.210 But see, once they start digging around, they find out 0:17:20.290 --> 0:17:24.300 that he's having an affair. And the problem, one of 0:17:24.340 --> 0:17:27.640 his problems, was that the mistress testified at this trial 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.659 and said she thought he did it. He sent her 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:34.359 some cryptic text messages the day before saying something to 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.130 the effect of, I'm going to fix everything tomorrow. 0:17:37.810 --> 0:17:38.790 Could you imagine. 0:17:39.910 --> 0:17:42.570 being in a relationship with a guy who's married, but 0:17:42.609 --> 0:17:45.290 he says the marriage is over. It's a broken, we're 0:17:45.310 --> 0:17:47.929 not really married. We're just staying together for the girls. And, 0:17:48.510 --> 0:17:53.160 you know, it's just, it's a roommate situation. And it's just, 0:17:53.340 --> 0:17:55.659 I just have to formalize it and it'll all be 0:17:55.700 --> 0:17:59.540 fixed tomorrow. And then tomorrow comes and you find out 0:17:59.580 --> 0:18:02.240 that that woman, his wife was shot and killed. 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:07.570 Could you imagine that? I saw some, the most dramatic, 0:18:08.470 --> 0:18:12.700 I've seen in a long time was when the mistress 0:18:13.660 --> 0:18:18.100 had to read out the text messages. Holy cow. Now, granted, 0:18:18.140 --> 0:18:21.139 they had thousands and the attorneys, the prosecutors had the 0:18:21.180 --> 0:18:25.170 ability to go through and handpick which messages they're going 0:18:25.310 --> 0:18:26.190 to have her read. 0:18:26.210 --> 0:18:26.570 Right. 0:18:26.609 --> 0:18:29.250 But the very specific, the idea that he would even 0:18:30.930 --> 0:18:34.350 share the thoughts of killing his wife with his mistress, 0:18:34.470 --> 0:18:36.330 and then somehow think that he was going to be 0:18:36.350 --> 0:18:37.530 able to get out from under that? 0:18:37.609 --> 0:18:40.560 Well, it's like Scott Peterson all over again with Amber 0:18:40.619 --> 0:18:43.480 Fry testifying and that whole circus. 0:18:44.859 --> 0:18:48.580 You just, your heart goes out to these little girls, I. 0:18:48.580 --> 0:18:53.840 Think 10 and 12, and their mother is shot and 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:57.590 killed at that age. I mean, at any age, it's awful, 0:18:57.630 --> 0:19:00.540 but 10 and 12. And it's dad who does it. 0:19:00.850 --> 0:19:04.270 And P.S., the worst part of the whole story, maybe 0:19:04.430 --> 0:19:06.609 even worse than the murder of their mother, is the 0:19:06.630 --> 0:19:10.330 fact that the mother, Ashley's mother, the dead wife's mother, 0:19:10.369 --> 0:19:13.230 testified that when she had custody of the girls in 0:19:13.590 --> 0:19:16.510 the wake of the killing, because the house was a 0:19:16.530 --> 0:19:18.369 crime scene so they couldn't stay there. So dad was 0:19:18.410 --> 0:19:19.990 like in a hotel or something and the girls were 0:19:20.010 --> 0:19:23.689 with grandma. That dad comes over the house and says, 0:19:23.710 --> 0:19:26.750 I'm going to take a walk with the girls. And 0:19:26.770 --> 0:19:31.730 the girls came back terrified. So on the walk, the 0:19:31.750 --> 0:19:36.290 insinuation being that dad told the girls to lie for him. 0:19:38.890 --> 0:19:42.070 How effed up would that make you in your head 0:19:42.410 --> 0:19:43.810 if you're a kid like that? 0:19:45.190 --> 0:19:52.020 Just awful. And this is the kind of– well thankfully 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.939 this doesn't happen all the time but it is one 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:56.960 of those cases where when we see it we go 0:19:57.220 --> 0:19:59.660 I feel like we've read this story before I feel 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:02.850 like we've been down this road before where this happens 0:20:03.030 --> 0:20:05.210 and then the husband believes that they can get away 0:20:05.250 --> 0:20:09.550 with it through a series of really poor decisions and 0:20:10.300 --> 0:20:13.200 I mean, the text message back and forth between he 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:19.280 and his mistress at the time, just the most damning 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:22.540 evidence probably. Because, for example, they never found a murder weapon. 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.680 He claimed when police showed up that he did have 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:27.480 a gun, that he kept it in the console. It 0:20:27.540 --> 0:20:29.429 wasn't there when the cops went to look for it, 0:20:29.780 --> 0:20:32.360 and they've never been able to locate it. Not important. 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:34.040 I know that a lot of people believe that without 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:36.220 a murder weapon, you don't get a murder conviction. This 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:38.730 is a perfect example of how you do it. So 0:20:38.850 --> 0:20:41.810 kudos to the prosecutors for it. I mean, it seems 0:20:41.890 --> 0:20:44.010 like this was a pretty open and shut case. 0:20:45.109 --> 0:20:49.609 The text messages to highlight your point about the mistress. 0:20:50.570 --> 0:20:57.159 I hadn't I hadn't seen this part that she's testifying. 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:01.780 And at one point they're reading the text messages back 0:21:01.820 --> 0:21:06.239 and forth. And he had made comments to her that 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:08.760 he hated his wife and that he harbored thoughts of 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:12.060 killing her. And she wrote to him in a text, 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:15.880