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Speaker 1: Medd at iHeartMedia dot com. A whole lot of developments

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Speaker 1: today on the Slenderman Staber Escape, we now have body

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Speaker 1: camera video of Morgan Geyser, who is arrested in Posin,

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Speaker 1: Illinois with her boyfriend who is appropriately enough Posin as

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Speaker 1: a woman. His name is Chad Meca, but he goes

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Speaker 1: by Charlie Meca. We can report exclusively that mister ms

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Speaker 1: Meca does have a criminal history that includes domestic abuse,

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Speaker 1: disorderly conduct, and just last month had a temporary restraining

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Speaker 1: order injunction filed against them for harassment and domestic abuse.

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Speaker 1: Now the two of them were arrested at a gas

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Speaker 1: station slash truck stop in Posen after taking a Greyhound

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Speaker 1: to the town of pos in a suburb about twenty

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Speaker 2: I guess it would be and we will have the

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Speaker 1: We also have Mecca calling WKOWTV in Madison. Remember he

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Speaker 1: that Morgan Geyser was sent to when a panel of

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Speaker 1: psychologists was able to convince a gullible now retired Waukashaw

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Speaker 1: County judge that Geyser no longer posed a threat to

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Speaker 1: herself or anyone else, that she was somehow sane, that

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Speaker 1: just over the past couple of months she had been

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Speaker 1: completely cured of her lifelong schizophrenia that back in twenty

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Speaker 1: kill her and appease the fictional character slender Man. So

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Speaker 1: Chad Mecha called into WKOWTV yesterday afternoon, after he was

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Speaker 1: apparently released after being ticketed for obstrung suction of justice

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Speaker 1: outside of this gas station on Sunday night, and he

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Speaker 1: the much younger, twenty three year old Morgan.

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Speaker 2: Guys, you understand how to.

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Speaker 3: Talk to each other in validae and just how to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there is nothing healthy about Morgan guyser or it

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Speaker 1: seems Chad slash Charlie mecha, just absolutely nothing. Now, Mecca

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Speaker 1: He said it was because the home was no longer

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Speaker 4: He ran because of me.

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Speaker 3: They sure he made it clear if I didn't go,

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Speaker 5: And I know what that means, and I was.

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Speaker 3: Scared, and I was nervous, and I still chose to

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Speaker 1: Now, what he is, of course talking about is guys

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Speaker 1: saying as recently as yesterday that she was suicidal, that

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Speaker 1: Why is this also very relevant that she is now

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Speaker 2: Why is it so relevant?

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Speaker 1: Well, rather obviously, because people with gender dysphoria or who

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Speaker 1: like forty to forty one percent of all people who

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Speaker 1: mental health crisis that is not being treated properly because

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Speaker 1: we have leftist psychologists and leftist people in charge of

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Speaker 1: the medical industry and specific the mental health industry who

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Speaker 1: people who are suffering, people who are very very depressed,

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Speaker 1: people who, like Morgan Geyser, have severe schizophrenian As we

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Speaker 1: tie in the medical science between schizophrenia, which is often

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Speaker 1: accompanied by violent delusions, the likes of which Morgan Geyser

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Speaker 1: was obviously suffering from when slender Man came out and

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Speaker 1: told her to kill her friend at a sleepover in

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Speaker 1: order to become her acolyte. That is the sort of

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Speaker 1: schizophrenic delusion that is very closely associated with what I

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Speaker 1: very strongly believe to be a similar delusion that the

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Speaker 1: person suffering from gender dysphoria does not truly believe that

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Speaker 1: they are, say, a biological man. They may have biological

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Speaker 1: That to me is a very schizophrenic style delusion, but

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Speaker 1: medical science, of course, can't treat it as such because

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Speaker 1: that would not be affirming the person's delusion. So police

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Speaker 1: in Illinois have released the body camera footage of the

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Speaker 1: arrest of Mecca and Geyser after their daring escape. Now, initially,

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Speaker 1: Geyser told police officers she did not want to give

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Speaker 1: her name for rather obvious reasons.

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Speaker 2: The cops just came up upon the two of.

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Speaker 1: Them because they were sleeping outside of this gas station

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Speaker 1: and said, hey, look, just give us your ID, Just

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Speaker 1: just tell us your name. We need to make sure

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Speaker 1: you're not wanted for murder or anything. Boy, did that

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Speaker 1: cop have a keen sense of foreshadowing? Clearly he didn't

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Speaker 1: actually know, But my goodness, how coincidental is that? Hey, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you're not wanted for murder?

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Speaker 2: Are you?

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Speaker 1: You didn't like stab somebody, did you? This is what

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Speaker 1: Guyser didn't want to give her name.

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Speaker 6: Okay, well then we're going to arrest you. I'll take

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Speaker 6: at station HINGR pranks, So you're gonna you don't want

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Speaker 6: to obstruct an officer, give me your name and data

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Speaker 6: birth you're not wanted for murder, right, But then you

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Speaker 6: think I have a problem with us, I promise you. Okay,

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Speaker 6: it's you're making a bigger deal than what it is.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, not really, it was about to become a

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Speaker 1: very big deal. The two of them are separated because

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Speaker 1: Guyser keeps telling the police officers that her girlfriend, she

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Speaker 1: kept referring to her as she my friend. She doesn't

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Speaker 1: know my real name. She wouldn't even say it out loud. Instead,

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Speaker 1: she wrote it on an officer's notepad and then showed

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Speaker 1: it to him. He then spells it back to her.

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Speaker 1: M O R G A N G E Y S

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Speaker 1: E R Is that right?

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Speaker 2: So Morgan is your first name?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 6: I again something bad.

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Speaker 4: Let me say.

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Speaker 6: Goodbye, we will let you say goodbye. Well, just stand

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Speaker 6: by here until we figure out. Okay, I.

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Speaker 4: Did that word.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's my name.

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Speaker 6: I didn't want to give it to you.

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Speaker 7: You'll see why.

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Speaker 2: But she didn't know my name.

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Speaker 1: Guys are kept saying that I was the one who

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Speaker 1: did something bad. She had nothing to do with this.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 1: Mecca, for his part, looked completely disheveled as he did

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Speaker 1: Mecha is transgender. We have got that posted on our

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Speaker 1: and on Instagram, and Geyser kept saying, Look, she did

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Speaker 1: I'm never going to be able to see her again.

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Speaker 1: She was clearly very impacted by this. Now our very

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Speaker 1: creative Gregory John who's the producer of the highly popular

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Speaker 1: and also me personally.

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Speaker 2: It's just an incredibly creative guy.

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Speaker 1: And when we posted the mugshot and posted the exclusive

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Speaker 1: details about our investigation into just who this Mecca person was,

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Speaker 1: who was apparently dating Morgan, Geyser Greg said, Hey, this

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Speaker 1: sounds like it could be a feel good Hallmark Christmas movie, right.

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Speaker 1: These are star cross lovers. They're just trying to get

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Speaker 1: away for the holidays. My guy, it's just like John

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Speaker 1: Candy and Steve Martin in planes, trains and automobiles, only

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Speaker 1: this would be bus, bus and another bus, and John

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Speaker 1: Candy and Steve Martin would both identify as women.

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Speaker 2: But we thought, you know what.

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Speaker 1: Greg is absolutely right, and we started thinking, what if

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Speaker 1: the Hallmark Channel made a Christmas movie out of this?

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Speaker 2: Ladies and Gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: The Dan o'donald Show with voiceover artist Gregory John proudly

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Speaker 1: present a trailer for the upcoming Hallmark Channel Christmas Classic

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Speaker 1: a slender Man Christmas.

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Speaker 4: He was a lonely transgender domestic abuse her looking for love.

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Speaker 4: She was a violent transgender schizophrenic looking to escape something

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Speaker 4: really wrong this holiday season. Their dreams will come true

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Speaker 4: at a gas station in Illinois.

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Speaker 2: And I wanted for murder?

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Speaker 4: Right, the Hallmark Channel probably presents a slender Man Christmas?

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Speaker 6: So Morgan is your first name?

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Speaker 4: Rate?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 6: G on them all? Let me take it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we will see her again.

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Speaker 6: You will no, I hope you will want.

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Speaker 9: And get something bad.

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Speaker 4: Let me say goodbye forbidden romance, A daring rescue and

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Speaker 4: an incompetent Department of Corrections. Who made that magic happen?

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Speaker 1: more evidence that she should have never been released from

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Speaker 1: the Winnebago Mental Health facility. Not only that, now state

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Speaker 1: lawmakers are getting involved, wanting to know why it took

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Speaker 1: that Guyser had tampered with her electronic monitoring bracelet and

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Speaker 1: had taken off TMJ four in Milwaukee, reporter Ben Jordan

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Speaker 1: goes down the truly stunning timeline, which features a good

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Speaker 7: And GPS tracking device Geyser was wearing is monitored by

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Speaker 7: the Department of Corrections. DHS says when the device is

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Speaker 7: alerted and is then responsible for notifying local and state

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Speaker 7: law enforcement agencies that an individual cannot be located and

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Speaker 7: must be apprehended. According to Madison Police, DOC received an

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Speaker 7: alert at nine thirty pm Saturday that Geyser's GPS was malfunctioning.

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Speaker 7: Then at eleven thirty, DOC learned she was no longer

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Speaker 7: warrant for Geyser that the chief says never made it

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Speaker 7: to Madison police. Nearly eight hours later, the group home

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Speaker 1: Basically, all that needed to happen was a phone call,

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Speaker 1: Yet that phone call.

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Speaker 2: Was never made.

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Speaker 1: Why Because it is my very strong suspicion that nobody

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Speaker 1: Because it's a Saturday night, it's late at night, it's

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Speaker 1: it's the weekend before a shortened week. Many people take

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Speaker 1: doing their job. Why is it not standard protocol when

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Speaker 1: lucky that it did not appear that Morgan Geyser was

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Speaker 1: know thanks to what Chad Mecha said to WKOW that

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Speaker 1: She said to him, I'm not going back to jail.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going back to jail, indicating that she was

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Speaker 1: own life at some point. The whole point of mental

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Speaker 1: who is dangerously insane like Morgan Geyser, but also to

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Speaker 1: they now retire judge who freed or Michael Booran do

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Speaker 1: Jerry O'Connor is a member of the State Assembly who

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Speaker 1: sits on the DOC Committee, interviewed by Ben Jordan for

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Speaker 1: this today's TMJ four story and asks is it acceptable?

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Speaker 1: What doj or excuse me? The doc did not.

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Speaker 4: Tell it's not accept and frankly, it doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 2: There should be a protocol in place.

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Speaker 8: I'm expecting they're having a meeting as we speak.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily count on that, Jerry, you would be

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Speaker 1: surprised at how little oversight there really is in some

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Speaker 1: of these state bureaucracies. You're listening to the Dan o'donald show.

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Speaker 2: We name the Unhinged Liberal.

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Speaker 1: Of the Day coming up next, Welcome back. It is

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Speaker 1: the Dan o'donald's show. Happy Thanksgiving and happy beginning of

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Speaker 1: the holiday season. To each end every one of you.

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Speaker 1: Some late breaking news that we're going to get to.

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Speaker 1: I believe in the four o'clock hour. The Wisconsin Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court today has impaneled two separate three judge panels to

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Speaker 1: review redistricting cases in two separate lawsuits that look to

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Speaker 1: Jerry mander Wisconsin's congressional map to make it all but

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Speaker 1: impossible for Brian's style and Derek Van Orden to win reelection.

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Speaker 1: Why is the Supreme Court just not deciding this for itself?

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Speaker 1: Why is it not just having a circuit court or

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Speaker 1: maybe a Court of Appeals do this well? There is

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Speaker 1: a reason that I dare say you are only going

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Speaker 1: to hear about here on the Dan O'Donnell show. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it has everything to do with politics. We will get

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Speaker 1: into that and why this is quite possibly the only

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Speaker 1: issue that matters heading into the twenty twenty six midterms,

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Speaker 1: and that is what the map is going to look like.

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Speaker 1: Because Democrats truly do believe that they can just steal

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Speaker 1: a couple of seats in Wisconsin and then, even though

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Speaker 1: they are overwhelmingly favored to win back control of the

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Speaker 1: House of Representatives, they really won't have to win in

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Speaker 1: anywhere else. That the two seats in Wisconsin comprise two

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Speaker 1: thirds of the necessary three seats that they need to

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Speaker 1: retake control, that it's essentially fate a complete before a

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Speaker 1: single vote is cast. We will get into that story,

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Speaker 1: plus the daily Trump date, the annual Turkey pardon earlier

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Speaker 1: today at the White House. That's coming up in the

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Speaker 1: four o'clock hour here on the Dan o'donnald Show. Right now, though,

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Speaker 1: time to name the unhinged liberal of the day.

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Speaker 9: We are Nazi Germany.

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Speaker 2: Tough is dangerous because he's evil.

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Speaker 3: America.

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Speaker 1: Today's unhinged liberal of the day is Afton Baine.

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Speaker 2: You might have heard of her.

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Speaker 1: She is a Tennessee state representative who is running in

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Speaker 1: a space election next month to try to win the

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Speaker 1: seat that was held by former Representative Mark Green, who

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Speaker 1: resigned from the House earlier this year. Well, a couple

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Speaker 1: of clips have resurfaced of Baine, one from twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: in which she says, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't really like Nashville all that much.

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Speaker 1: Well, that kind of sucks because her seats would represent Nashville.

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Speaker 2: But why is she today's unhinged liberal of the day.

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Speaker 1: Because in twenty nineteen she was trying to protest in

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Speaker 1: the governor's office and when police showed up to try

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Speaker 1: to keep her from going into the office, she took

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Speaker 1: off running like a crazy person and then had to

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Speaker 1: be dragged out, shrieking and sobbing.

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Speaker 2: That is a woman who.

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Speaker 1: Is currently the Democratic nominee for the House of Representatives.

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Speaker 1: Miss Bain, would you like to offer a statement on

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Speaker 1: your candidacy? Okay, then after Baine, your unhinged liberal of

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Speaker 1: the day. You know, I'm beginning to think that maybe,

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Speaker 1: just maybe Democrats are not sending their best and brightest

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Speaker 1: to the United States Congress.

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Speaker 2: Call it a hunch. Call it a hunch.

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Speaker 1: Now you might be saying, well, Dan, what about some

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Speaker 1: of the crazies in the Republican calucus. Well, we are

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Speaker 1: currently down one crazy. At least we will be as

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Speaker 1: of January sixth. Marjorie Taylor Green is offering her resignation

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Speaker 1: after a high profile split with Magadew. You might remember

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Speaker 1: the notorious MTG. She was one of the most ardent

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Speaker 1: pro Trump Congress women, even going so far as to

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Speaker 1: wear all MAGA gear during one of President Trump's States

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Speaker 1: of the Union, or maybe it was even earlier this

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Speaker 2: Well, she had a high profile split.

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Speaker 1: She said, like Thomas Massew, it was all about the

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Speaker 1: Epstein files, when really it was just a disagreement over

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Speaker 1: foreign policy. She didn't want a ton of money going

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Speaker 1: to Israel for sadly obvious reasons, for the same reason

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of people on the left don't want

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of money going to Israel. She used

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Speaker 1: the Epstein Files as something of an out. All right,

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Speaker 1: we'll have the Daily Trump Date when we come back

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Speaker 1: after the news. And President Trump was celebrating Thanksgiving at

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Speaker 1: the White House today a little early with his annual

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Speaker 1: tradition of the Turkey pardon. This goes back decades and

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Speaker 1: decades and decades. We'll get to that in the Daily

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Speaker 1: Trump Date in just a second. Welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: Dan O'Donnell show. Coming up after the Trump Date. Getting

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Speaker 1: caught up on everything that happened in Washington.

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Speaker 2: DC today.

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Speaker 1: Big decision by the Wisconsin Supreme Court to appoint two

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Speaker 1: separate three judge panels who will decide two separate redistricting

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Speaker 1: cases that were brought challenging the constitutionality of Wisconsin's congressional map. Now,

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Speaker 1: Democrat groups brought these challenges naturally because they are the

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Speaker 1: ones who constantly believe that and have constantly challenged Wisconsin's

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Speaker 1: redistricting ever since twenty eleven, saying it's a partisan jerrymander

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Speaker 1: for Republicans. Now, I'm going to give you the Daily

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Speaker 1: Trump Date to think about what's wrong with Democrat groups

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Speaker 1: suing the state of Wisconsin, saying the maps are jerrymandered

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Speaker 1: for Republicans. The maps are designed to give Republicans an

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Speaker 1: undue edge in elections. I'm going to give you to

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Speaker 1: the end of the Daily Trump Date to figure it out.

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Speaker 1: See if you can find out the fundamental flaw in

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Speaker 1: their logic. Text it to me on the advent noos

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Speaker 1: dot com talk and text line four one four seven

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Speaker 1: nine nine eleven thirty. We also keep our email inbox

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Speaker 1: open and monitor DoD at iHeartMedia dot com. A reminder

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Speaker 1: to submit your kid's performances for the annual Dan O'Donnell's

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Speaker 1: show Family Christmas Special. You have until December twelfth, but

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Speaker 1: I would highly suggest getting those entries in as quick

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Speaker 1: as possible. We can only guarantee the first fifty entries

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Speaker 1: are going to make this special, which is going to

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Speaker 1: premiere December twenty third at four o'clock during the Dan

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Speaker 1: o'donald Show, and then it is going to air throughout

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Speaker 1: the day Christmas Eve and Christmas Day on WISN. Alongside

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Speaker 1: are old classics, the radio plays of It's a Wonderful Life,

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Speaker 1: Miracle on thirty fourth Street, and a Christmas Carol which

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Speaker 1: we have been playing since I was a little kid.

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Speaker 1: That's actually how I first discovered WISN radio. Little known fact.

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Speaker 1: I was ten or eleven driving to my grandma's house

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Speaker 1: and my parents happened to put it on and we

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Speaker 1: were all listening to I believe it was Miracle on

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Speaker 1: thirty fourth Street the radio play. And then from then on,

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Speaker 1: as soon as I got my driver's license and I

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Speaker 1: was driving anywhere to Grandma's house or whatever on Christmas

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Speaker 1: Eve or Christmas Day, you better believe I was listening

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Speaker 1: to WISN even before I really knew what talk radio was,

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Speaker 1: to hear those old radio plays. Those are back, so

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Speaker 1: too is the Dan o'donald Show Family Christmas Special. Please

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Speaker 1: do submit your kids, your grandkid's performances Thanksgiving weekend while

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Speaker 1: they're in town, while they're over for Thanksgiving, it is

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Speaker 1: a perfect time to do so. Send a video, send

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Speaker 1: an audio file. Please, kids in high school or younger.

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Speaker 1: I have a couple of people, God bless them.

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Speaker 2: I love them.

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Speaker 1: They have not gotten the concept of this being open

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Speaker 1: to kids. I've got one loyal listener, as nice as

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Speaker 1: can be, and he asks, you know, Dan, hey, could

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Speaker 1: I submit my daughter?

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Speaker 2: She's twenty five.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm sure she is beautiful. I'm sure she is talented.

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Speaker 1: But no, it's open to kids. He follows that up

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Speaker 1: by asking, Okay, well, then can I contribute? Can I

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Speaker 1: send over my mom's choir? I do love all my listeners.

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Speaker 8: We're gonna win so much you may even get tired

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Speaker 8: of winning it.

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Speaker 2: For the administration.

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Speaker 4: It's also a big win for the United States.

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Speaker 2: We have to keep pinning. We have to win more.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna win.

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Speaker 9: Moore.

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving at the White House a couple of days early,

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Speaker 1: the annual tradition of the Turkey Party, and.

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Speaker 8: We here for the First Lady and the entire Trump family.

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Speaker 8: I want to wish all Americans a very, very happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 8: It's a great time of the year, and our country

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Speaker 8: is doing really well economically, like we've never done before.

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Speaker 1: The two turkeys this year were named Gobble and Waddle.

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Speaker 1: President Trump did spare them both and had a bit

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Speaker 1: of a joke at the expense of his congressional enemies.

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Speaker 8: The turkey's being pardoned today go by the names of

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Speaker 8: Gobble and Waddle. When I first saw their pictures, I

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Speaker 8: thought we should send them. Well.

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Speaker 11: I was gonna I.

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Speaker 8: Shouldn't say this. I was gonna call him chuck in Nancy.

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Speaker 8: But then I realized I wouldn't be pardoning them. I

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Speaker 8: would never pardon those two people. I wouldn't pardon them.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't care what Malania told me. Darling, I think

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Speaker 8: it would be a nice thing to do, I won't

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Speaker 8: do it, Darling.

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Speaker 1: Both Gobble and Waddle did get pardons. I was a

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Speaker 1: little concerned he was only going to spare one of them,

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Speaker 1: like the Emperor Comedis in the movie Gladiator, and he'd

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Speaker 1: have Russell Crowe come out and behead one of them

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Speaker 1: in front of the cameras.

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Speaker 2: No, they both got pardons.

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Speaker 1: The tradition of the president ceremonially pardoning a turkey dates

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Speaker 1: back to President George H. W.

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Speaker 2: Bush in nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 1: That was the first formal pardon, but the story actually

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Speaker 1: starts much much earlier than that. The informal tradition actually

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Speaker 1: began in eighteen sixty three, when President Abraham Lincoln spared

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Speaker 1: a turkey at the request of his son Tad. Presidents

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Speaker 1: up to Harry Truman had been receiving turkeys as early

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Speaker 1: as nineteen forty seven, but it wasn't until forty two

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Speaker 1: years later when George H. W. Bush made it an

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Speaker 1: official tradition and he decreed that the first turkey would

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Speaker 1: be pardoned in his words, as of right now, to

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Speaker 1: live out its days on a farm. President Trump offered

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Speaker 1: his Thanksgiving blessings to the nation two days before the holiday.

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Speaker 8: And less than one year, we've accomplished more than most

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Speaker 8: other administrations have accomplished in eight years.

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Speaker 2: And this is a.

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Speaker 8: Very special thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: We thank God.

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Speaker 8: For his many blessings and the great success that this

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Speaker 8: country has seen in the short period of time. We

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Speaker 8: draw strength from the love of family and friends, and

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Speaker 8: we express our undying gratitude for the men and the

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Speaker 8: women of the United States Armed Forces.

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Speaker 4: We love them.

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Speaker 8: We pray that peace and prosperity will continue to bless

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Speaker 8: our land and together will really just keep the what

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Speaker 8: is great drive going to make America great again? Maga.

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Speaker 8: I think it's the greatest expression in the history of politics,

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Speaker 8: make America great again?

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Speaker 1: That ladies and gentlemen, is your daily Trump Day to

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Speaker 1: look back at what happened at the White House and

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Speaker 1: across Washington, DC. As President Trump is indeed efforting to

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Speaker 1: make America great again. A number of people got the

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Speaker 1: answer to my question right, what is the flaw with

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Speaker 1: Democrats suing over Wisconsin's congressional maps? Ladies and gentlemen, I

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Speaker 1: was only kidding about not loving my listeners. Of course,

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Speaker 1: I love each and every one of you, even though

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Speaker 1: you know what, should I have the random old ladies

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Speaker 1: choir in the dan o'donnald Show Kids Christmas Special?

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, dear listener, send the old lady

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Speaker 1: choir to me. We won't play him in the special,

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Speaker 1: but I will work them in on the dan o'donald.

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Speaker 1: I'm just in a good mood.

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Speaker 5: I'm in the.

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Speaker 1: Christmas spirit, and I do love each and every one

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Speaker 1: of you, and I guess this is as good a

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Speaker 1: time as Anny. I'm sure I'll get sentimental tomorrow, our

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Speaker 1: last day before thanksgetting it certainly the last show before Christmas.

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Speaker 1: I do thank Heavens I have each and every one

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Speaker 1: of you. I do love all of you, folks. I

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Speaker 1: just absolutely love meeting you folks out in public. You

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Speaker 1: are also kind and judging by the what thirty texts

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Speaker 1: that rolled in all with the correct answer to my question,

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Speaker 1: you are truly the smartest audience in all of conservative media.

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Speaker 1: Why is it so wild that Democrats are suing Wisconsin's

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Speaker 1: congressional maps. They're suing over there because they were drawn

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Speaker 1: by a Democrat governor, Tony Evers drew the congressional maps. Now,

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Speaker 1: you might remember that Democrats absolutely did challenge those they

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Speaker 1: wanted to redistrict to just jerrymander the holy heck out

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Speaker 1: of pretty much every map they could find, and you

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Speaker 1: might recall that they did. The Wisconsin Supreme Court actually

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Speaker 1: overturned the legislature's maps for both the state legislative redistricting

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Speaker 1: that was done in twenty twenty one and the congressional

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Speaker 1: redistricting that was done that same year. The United States

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court, though, actually had to intervene in the congressional

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Speaker 1: map because it was unconstitutional. There was a racial jerrymander.

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Speaker 1: There was a congressional district in Milwaukee that was drawn

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Speaker 1: on the basis of race, and thus could not stand.

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Speaker 2: It was unconstitutional. In fact, there's a case.

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Speaker 1: Before the full United States Supreme Court out of Louisiana

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Speaker 1: which may actually do away with all race based redistricting

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Speaker 1: in the country. That would be devastating for Democrats. It

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Speaker 1: would instantly, very likely give Republicans. I believe the estimates

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Speaker 1: are sixteen to eighteen congressional seats. It would be a

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Speaker 1: massive advantage for them. And it is correct on the

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Speaker 1: merits that we should not have race based districts at all,

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Speaker 1: regardless of whether they were originally drawn in the nineteen sixties,

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Speaker 1: because Democrats couldn't stand that there might be black representatives

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Speaker 1: in the United States Congress. Oh yes, Democrats, you will

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Speaker 1: own the fact that you did own the racism of

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Speaker 1: the South. And know, as I have been proving for

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Speaker 1: the better part of a decade or more, there was

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Speaker 1: no ideological shift. All the old Dixiecrats did not, in

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Speaker 1: fact become Republicans. The old racist Democrats never actually became Republicans.

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Speaker 1: There was no ideological shift. I can prove it, And

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Speaker 1: in fact, I would love for some leftist to call

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Speaker 1: me and to try to disprove my argument about the

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Speaker 1: great ideological shift that wasn't. But that's a different topic.

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Speaker 1: The United States Supreme Court struck down Governor Evers map,

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Speaker 1: at least on the legislative side, Therefore, having no other alternative,

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Speaker 1: the state legislature used its own map. The Wisconsin Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: even though alleged conservative Justice Brian Hagadorn sided with the

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Speaker 1: then liberal minority three justices in voting for Governor Evers map,

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Speaker 1: it was struck down at the state level. The state

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Speaker 1: legislative map was struck down. Congressional map though because of

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Speaker 1: Brian Hagadorn alleged conservative siding with the three liberals to

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Speaker 1: give a four to three majority to the left Governor

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Speaker 1: Evers congressional map stood.

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Speaker 2: That was the map that was used in.

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Speaker 1: The congressional elections of both twenty twenty two and twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. Now, all of a sudden, there is a

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Speaker 1: push to redraw the congressional districts.

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Speaker 2: Why it's the exact same map.

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Speaker 1: It was the one that was drawn by Tony Evers

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Speaker 1: and his People's Maps Co Mission. Do you remember the

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Speaker 1: Ballyhood announcement of that in twenty twenty twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: following the last census, Oh, we're going to have the

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Speaker 1: people decide. Well, it was all partisan liberals appointed by

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Speaker 1: the governor.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't the people at all.

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Speaker 1: And of course the Constitution is very clear it is

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Speaker 1: the state legislatures who are responsible for drawing district maps

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Speaker 1: in both the state legislative and congressional districts. The governor

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Speaker 1: really only signs off on it. The proper function of government,

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Speaker 1: of the separation of powers is that the legislature has

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Speaker 1: the power to draw the map. The governor can either

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Speaker 1: veto it or he can sign the map. How does

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Speaker 1: the governor get to draw his own map, Well, it's

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Speaker 1: because the third branch of government, the courts, has stuck

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Speaker 1: its beak in time and again in order to give

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Speaker 1: partisan advantage to the democratic governor. Now, the Wisconsin Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court is going even farther after. There were two cases

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Speaker 1: filed earlier this year, two separate cases both challenging Wisconsin's

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Speaker 1: congressional maps. The Wisconsin Supreme Court has ruled this afternoon

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Speaker 1: that it is not going to decide these cases. It

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Speaker 1: instead has appointed two three judge panels to hear the

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Speaker 1: two lawsuits. Now, in case you're wondering just how fair

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Speaker 1: and just how impartial these judges are going to be,

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Speaker 1: I actually did a little research into their backgrounds. This,

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Speaker 1: of course, you are not going to get anywhere else

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Speaker 1: in media, and I dare say nowhere else in conservative

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin media, because only we here at the DAN O'Donnell

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Speaker 1: show this type of legwork. You ready for the six judges.

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Speaker 1: The Honorable Patricia Baker, She was appointed by Democrat Governor

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Speaker 1: Tony Evers in twenty twenty. The Honorable David Conway, appointed

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Speaker 1: by Democrat Governor Tony Evers in twenty twenty. The Honorable

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Speaker 1: Emily Lonergan, also appointed by Democrat Governor Tony Evers in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. The Honorable Michael Moran, Well, he just happened

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Speaker 1: to serve as the chairman of the Democrat Party of

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Speaker 1: Marathon County for quite some time. The honorable Julie Genovezi,

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Speaker 1: she was the former law clerk of the uber liberal

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin Chief Justice Shirley Abramson. And finally the honorable Mark Sanders,

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Speaker 1: who served for fifteen years as an assistant District Attorney

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Speaker 1: under the uber liberal Milwaukee DA John Chisholm. Every single

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Speaker 1: one of these is either an Evers appointee or has

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Speaker 1: deep deep ties to the Democrat Party or liberal figures

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Speaker 1: in the criminal or civil justice system. Everyone is a

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Speaker 1: leftist judge. I'm going to get into in just a

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Speaker 1: second why it is that the Democrats who control the

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin Supreme Court now with a four to three majority,

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Speaker 1: don't want their fingerprints on this redistricting decision in spite

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Speaker 1: of the fact that they definitely want new maps drawn.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned. You're not gonna want to miss this, all right.

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Speaker 1: When I said I love you, folks, I mean it.

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Speaker 1: This text comes to me from Russell loyal listener on

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Speaker 1: the ad that knows dot Com talk and text line

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Speaker 1: day and just in, a federal judge has issued an

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Speaker 1: injunction against President Trump's pardon of the two Thanksgiving turkeys.

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Speaker 1: I love you, my listeners, I really, really, really do.

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin Supreme Court deciding today to pawn off two lawsuits

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Speaker 1: on partisan redistricting in the congressional map to two separate

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Speaker 1: three judge panels. There are two lawsuits that were filed

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Speaker 1: earlier this year. Now, you might be asking yourself at

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Speaker 1: this point, Hey, Dan, didn't the Supreme Court at the

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Speaker 1: outset of twenty twenty five just decline to take up

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Speaker 1: a similar challenge to Wisconsin's congressional maps Why, yes, dear listener,

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Speaker 1: it most certainly did. Why obviously, this is the most hyperpartisan,

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Speaker 1: hyper political Supreme Court that we have ever had in

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Speaker 1: this state. It has gotten even more hyper political with

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Speaker 1: the addition of Susan Crawford, who's sort of like Janet Protescewitz,

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Speaker 1: only not quite as dumb and well, you don't know

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Speaker 1: exactly which barstool to find her at at about.

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Speaker 2: Five thirty PM, if you get my drift.

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Speaker 1: This is a court that clearly wants to read district

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Speaker 1: just as it jerrymandered the state legislative maps for Democrats

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Speaker 1: ahead of the twenty twenty four legislative elections. Every single

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Speaker 1: Assembly member, remember is up every two years. In twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three, in fact, the day before the Christmas holiday,

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget it, because it was the afternoon of December.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was twenty thirty. It was Friday afternoon,

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Speaker 1: December twenty third, when everybody and their brother is off

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Speaker 1: and thinking about Christmas. The decision came out at about

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Speaker 1: three something PM that we were jerrymandering the heck out

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Speaker 1: of the legislative maps, and in fact, the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: even gave a deadline for there to be a commission,

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Speaker 1: or the maps to be withdrawn and redrawn, or the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court would just kind of redraw them itself, and

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Speaker 1: it even named experts that it was going to have

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Speaker 1: redistrict Of course, all of this is completely unconstitutional. The

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Speaker 1: court has no role in drawing districts. This is the

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Speaker 1: role of the legislature, but the Supreme Court has sort

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Speaker 1: of usurped it for itself, and having no other choice,

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Speaker 1: the state legislature needed to adopt Governor Evers maps, which

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Speaker 1: remember were struck down by the United States Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: forcing the Wisconsin Supreme Court to allow the state Legislature's

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Speaker 1: maps to go into effect for the twenty twenty two midterms.

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Speaker 1: Well as soon as the liberals took over control of

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Speaker 1: the court when protest Saywiz joined literally the day after

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Speaker 1: pro To Seywitz was sworn in as the fourth Liberal

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Speaker 1: member of the Wisconsin Supreme Court. And when I say

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Speaker 1: literally the day after, I mean the day after with

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Speaker 1: something like August's second pro Descewitz was sworn in August third,

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Speaker 1: the lawsuit was filed. It was so nakedly political and

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00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: had no legal merit whatsoever. But because the court is

879
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: full of a bunch of left wing hacks. They of

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Speaker 1: course took up the case, forcing the adoption of governor

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Speaker 1: evers maps.

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00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: The result was instant.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, in spite of the fact that

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Speaker 1: Republicans won a resounding victory in the presidential race, President

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Speaker 1: Trump won Wisconsin for the second time in three election cycles,

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Speaker 1: but just the third time since nineteen eighty four a

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Speaker 1: Republican won Wisconsin was a big Republican year. However, Republicans

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00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: somehow lost ten seats in the state Assembly and four

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Speaker 1: seats in the state Senate. Now, this is the exact

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Speaker 1: argument that Democrats have always made about why maps are jerrymatter. Well,

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00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: Democrats win statewide, but we don't win in these individual districts.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Weirdly enough, no Democrats are making that argument, now, are they.

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00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: They're saying, well, that the maps were totally fair. Even

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Speaker 1: though Republicans won way more votes statewide, they didn't in

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Speaker 1: those specific districts. Now, why is it that the Wisconsin

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00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: Supreme Court, which is hyper political and clearly wants to

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Speaker 1: redistrict Congress just like it redistricted the state legislator.

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Speaker 2: They want Derek Van Order In.

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00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: Case you couldn't tell all the new chairmen of the

901
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: Wisconsin Democrat Party has done is either fret about Mandela

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00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: Barnes eventually getting into the race for governor, which I

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Speaker 1: am told he is going to do. I was originally

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Speaker 1: told he's going to do it in November. Apparently those

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Speaker 1: plans have changed. He is getting into the race unless,

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Speaker 1: of course, big money donors and the powers that be

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Speaker 1: in the Democrat Party have convinced him otherwise. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're going to be able to unless there is

909
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Speaker 1: a concerted effort to black ball man dedbeat and to

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Speaker 1: keep him out. He is getting in. But when Devin

911
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Speaker 1: Remicker is not worrying desperately about how to deal with

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Speaker 1: Mandela Barnes when he gets in the gubernatorial race, he

913
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Speaker 1: is tweeting at Derek van Orton, Mark Pocan. We actually

914
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Speaker 1: did an investigative piece on this fits the definition of

915
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Speaker 1: cyberstalking Derek van Orton. They want this guy out of

916
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: the Congress bad. Easiest way to do that, since he

917
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Speaker 1: has won pretty convincingly the last couple of elections is

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Speaker 1: to just Jerrymander the seat to make it impossible for

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Speaker 1: a Republican to win. They want to do that to

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Speaker 1: Brian's style. In fact, the ever map actually drew a

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Speaker 1: big portion of Milwaukee County into styles district with the

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Speaker 1: express purpose of trying to get more Democrat voters into

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Speaker 1: his district and try to make it so that he

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Speaker 1: couldn't possibly win. Well, it turns out Brian's Style is

925
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Speaker 1: just an incredibly popular congressman. He is a very powerful memory.

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Speaker 1: He is a very accomplished young congressman. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we are going to have him on the show tomorrow

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Speaker 1: afternoon talking about a big investigation that his committee has

929
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Speaker 1: come up with.

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Speaker 2: It's a fascinating topic.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to want to miss that about four

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Speaker 1: twenty five tomorrow afternoon on the Dan O'Donnell Show. But

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Speaker 1: why would the why would the Supreme Court not want

934
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Speaker 1: to get involved in this? The answer very likely lies

935
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Speaker 1: in a case that many people don't even remember. It's

936
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Speaker 1: from this spring, and it involves charities ringing a bell.

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Speaker 1: We were probably the only a media outlet that focused

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Speaker 1: on this because the Wisconsin Supreme Court's liberal majority didn't

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Speaker 1: just get overturned by the United States Supreme Court as

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Speaker 1: it did on the Gerrymanderin case from twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: It got smacked down.

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Speaker 1: Not only that Sonya Soda, Mayor of all people, wrote

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Speaker 1: the opinion for a unanimous court ruling that the Wisconsin

944
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: Supreme Court just basically got the most fundamental questions of

945
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Speaker 1: constitutional law wrong and decided to treat Catholic charities differently

946
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Speaker 1: from every other charity. The implication was that there was

947
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Speaker 1: some anti Christian bias there. I mean it was a

948
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Speaker 1: humiliating SmackDown for the ladies of the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: I mean embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: When even Sonya Soto, Mayor, the wise Latina herself, is

951
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Speaker 1: writing about how you're too stupid to understand basic application

952
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Speaker 1: of First Amendment law. You know you're really messed up

953
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Speaker 1: when you can even convince Kaitanji Brown Jackson, who is

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Speaker 1: probably the least qualified person to ever sit on the

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Speaker 1: United States Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: And that's saying something.

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Speaker 1: Don't believe me, read her opinions or listen to her

958
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: talk in oral arguments. It's actually hilarious and scary at

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01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: the same time that someone like that could make it

960
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Speaker 1: to the United States Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: She's truly awful.

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Speaker 1: At this point, you're probably saying, oh, yes, Dan, it's

963
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: because you're a racist, white conservative and she's a black female.

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Speaker 1: Guess who my favorite justice is on the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: And it's not even close.

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Speaker 4: You guessed.

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01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas been my favorite judge for a long long time. Actually,

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Speaker 1: when I first became politically aware. Weirdly enough, one of

969
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Speaker 1: the first things that I was paying attention to. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. I think it was just a

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Speaker 1: random you know what it was. I think it was

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Speaker 1: on the Rush Loomblaugh Show, because he was such good

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Speaker 1: friends with Rush that Rush was doing a segment on

974
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Speaker 1: do you remember the Confirmation hearings where they made up

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Speaker 1: Anita Hill literally made up the pubic hair on the

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Speaker 1: coke can story. I mean, it was documented. It was

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Speaker 1: a lie. It was a provable lie. And Clarence Thomas

978
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Speaker 1: basically shamed Teddy Kennedy and every other Democrat in that

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Speaker 1: hearing by saying, this is a modern day, high tech

980
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: lynching where someone's name is run through the mud in

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Speaker 1: the halls of the United States Congress instead of hung

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Speaker 1: from a tree. That earned a young Dan O'Donnell's undying respect.

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Speaker 1: And the man is just he's a brilliant jurist. Now

984
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: you ask yourself, you asked yourself who the real racists are?

985
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: What for decades did the left say about Clarence Thomas. Oh, well,

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01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: he just follows antonin Scalia. He just says whatever Scolias

987
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: tells him to. Okay, I can actually cite chapter in

988
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: verse of how terrible Katanji Brown Jackson's decisions actually are.

989
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: There's a montage floating out there on social media of

990
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: like two and a half straight minutes of her saying

991
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Speaker 1: during oral arguments before the court, I don't understand, or

992
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: please help me understand. You're supposed to understand this, judge.

993
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: That's why we put you on the United States Supreme Court.

994
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: In any event, the Wisconsin Supreme Court got so thoroughly

995
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: embarrassed in that case that it is my very strong

996
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 1: opinion that it influenced their decision not to take up

997
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: the congressional jerrymandering case. They know Wisconsin's congressional maps are

998
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: not jerrymander, just as they knew that Wisconsin's legislative maps

999
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: are not jerry manderd So why did they overturn Wisconsin's

1000
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: legislative maps. They were very careful not to touch on

1001
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 1: any federal issue that would leave their decision open to

1002
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: being overturned in the federal court system and of course

1003
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Speaker 1: ending up at the United States Supreme Court. Well, the

1004
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: United States Supreme Court obviously gets to look over decisions

1005
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: by the Wisconsin Supreme Court. But if the decision you

1006
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: see is from one of these three judge panels, then

1007
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: the four justices on the Wisconsin Supreme Court don't have

1008
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Speaker 1: to suffer the ultimate humiliation again of being overturned, probably

1009
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Speaker 1: in a nine nothing SmackDown or eight to one. The

1010
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: blind squirrel that is Katanji Brown Jackson cannot be trusted

1011
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: to find two nuts in a row, the fact that

1012
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: they would likely lose again. In legal circles, folks, the

1013
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: last thing a judge or a court ever wants is

1014
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: to be overturned. It's considered just. It hurts, It stings,

1015
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: because it's the higher court is basically telling you you're wrong.

1016
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: You got some question of the facts of the case wrong,

1017
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Speaker 1: or more embarrassingly, you got the law wrong. You're not

1018
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: supposed to get the law wrong. As a judge, that's

1019
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: kind of the point of being a judge. It is

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Speaker 1: my very strong belief that the Supreme Court justices appointed

1021
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: these Democrat hacks on these two panels because they are

1022
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: going to overturn Wisconsin's congressional maps. And if the cases

1023
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: go to the United States Supreme Court, well then it's

1024
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: just these left wing Democrat appointed hacks who are getting

1025
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: overturned and not the justices on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

1026
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: It's a good theory, and I'm guessing nobody's going to

1027
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: be able to prove it wrong. You're listening to the

1028
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Speaker 1: Dan o'donald Show, Classical Conservatism, Contemporary Style, the Trans Siberian Orchestra,

1029
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: and the Dan o'donald Show Christmas Bumper Music rotation. Yes,

1030
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Speaker 1: we are doing Christmas Bumper music a little bit early

1031
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: this year because we are just in the holiday spirit,

1032
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: even ahead of Thanksgiving, which is two days from now.

1033
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: A reminder, tomorrow, during the five o'clock hour, we are

1034
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Speaker 1: pretty much dedicating most of it to Thanksgiving. The centerpiece,

1035
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 1: of course, is our annual tradition. It is the late, lamented,

1036
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: much loved Rush Limbaugh reciting his classic The Real Story

1037
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Speaker 1: of the First Thanksgiving. Why the Pilgrims weren't as you

1038
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: were taught celebrating that the Native Americans the nearby was

1039
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: at the Wampaegg tribe them how to hunt, taught them

1040
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: how to plant maize, and basically taught them how to survive.

1041
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Speaker 1: That wasn't it at all. The colony was failing. Plymouth

1042
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: was failing, as the Governor William Bradford's journals make clear,

1043
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: because they adopted a form of proto socialism where everyone

1044
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: would pool their harvest and everybody would get an equal share. Well,

1045
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Speaker 1: as Bradford noted, it was disastrous. Now, for years, Rush

1046
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 1: would read from his first book, The Way Things Ought

1047
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Speaker 1: to Be.

1048
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Speaker 2: That was what it was called.

1049
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: The first book was The Way Things Ought to Be.

1050
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Speaker 1: The second see I told you so. And then towards

1051
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Speaker 1: the end of his life he created a series of

1052
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Speaker 1: children's books, Rush Revere, the first one being Rush Revere

1053
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Speaker 1: and the Brave Pilgrims, and Rush read, I believe it

1054
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Speaker 1: was actually from the first book, The Way Things Ought

1055
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Speaker 1: to Be, but he adapted that story as the basis

1056
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Speaker 1: for his first book, Rush Revere and the Brave Pilgrims. Actually,

1057
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Speaker 1: my oldest son, Nick read when he was a little boy,

1058
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Speaker 1: all of the Rush Revere books. He said, Brave Pilgrims

1059
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Speaker 1: was his favorite, the first one, the second one, I

1060
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Speaker 1: believe was Rush Revere and it was about the Revolution.

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Speaker 1: I know that I actually didn't read them with Nick.

1062
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 1: I was reading Harry Potter to the boys before they

1063
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Speaker 1: went to bed instead. But that is going to be

1064
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 1: tomorrow five o'clock hour. We are going to be talking

1065
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Speaker 1: with Congressman Brian Stile, whose seat would be very much

1066
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Speaker 1: in jeopardy if the Wisconsin Supreme Court gets its way

1067
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Speaker 1: and actually read districts actually jerry manders the congressional map.

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Speaker 1: Now I can actually prove objectively that Wisconsin's maps are

1069
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Speaker 1: most definitely not jerry mandered, or, as Janet protus Seiwitz

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Speaker 1: was fond of saying, rigged. A lot of people have

1071
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Speaker 1: been begging me on the adventnos dot com talk and

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Speaker 1: text line to do the Janet protest Saiwitz impression. All right,

1073
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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, because I am in the holiday spirit.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: This is Janet Protocewitz throughout the twenty twenty three State

1076
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Speaker 1: Supreme Court campaign blatantly violating the Code of Judicial Conduct

1077
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Speaker 1: by prejudging cases. Here we go, Janet Protocewits, the maps

1078
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Speaker 1: are read. This has been my impression of Janet Protocewits,

1079
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Speaker 1: the most widely cited. Statistical measure of whether or not

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Speaker 1: they're all is jerrymandering is known as the efficiency gap.

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Speaker 1: This is the one that is most often cited in

1082
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Speaker 1: cases challenging maps. Well, there is a seven to eight

1083
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Speaker 1: percent So if the map is is seven or eight

1084
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Speaker 1: percent below ideal efficiency, meaning it is perfectly balanced between

1085
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Speaker 1: geographical compactness and partisan makeup and all of these things

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Speaker 1: that go into this sort of nebulous calculus as to

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Speaker 1: what makes.

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Speaker 2: A fair map.

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Speaker 1: If it is seven to eight percent at maximum off

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Speaker 1: of ideal, there is a safe harbor. Courts consider any

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Speaker 1: map that is either six percent Democrat leaning or say

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Speaker 1: four percent Republican leaning to be just fine, to be

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01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: well within the safe harbor on the efficiency gap. According

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Speaker 1: to analysis last year of Wisconsin's Republican congressional maps, there

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Speaker 1: is a one point two percent tilt to Republicans. One

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Speaker 1: point two This is well within the seven to eight

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Speaker 1: percent safe harbor. So on the gold standard for measuring

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Speaker 1: whether maps are jerrymandered, Wisconsin's is well below what would

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Speaker 1: be considered a jerrymandered map. How about this, What Democrats

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01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: always talk about is proportional votes, right, So if they

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Speaker 1: get say fifty two percent of the statewide vote. They

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01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: should get fifty two percent of the total assembly vote. Right,

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01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: this isn't a thing. This isn't how courts will actually

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01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 1: measure whether a map is jerrymandered. But Democrats do it anyway.

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01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four, most recent statewide elections, Democrats won forty

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Speaker 1: eight point four percent of the statewide congressional votes. Okay,

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01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: they only, or rather they did win two out of

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Speaker 1: the eight seats. This is reasonably proportional. Democrats are rather

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01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 1: Republicans won fifty one point one percent of the vote and.

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Speaker 2: Got six of the eight seats.

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01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: Democrats take a look at this and say, hey, this

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01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: is de facto evidence of jerry mandering. But in fact

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01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 1: it does show that Democrats are not getting nearly the

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01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 1: number of votes.

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Speaker 2: And the reason for this.

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01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: Is because Democrats self isolate, they self jerry mander. Democrats

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01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 1: only really live in massive numbers in this state in

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01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:58,799
Speaker 1: two cities, Madison and Milwaukee. In Dane County, Democrats typically

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01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,799
Speaker 1: win about seventy five to eighty percent of the vote.

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Speaker 1: Same thing in Milwaukee County it's a little bit lower.

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Speaker 1: But would anybody say that Dane and Milwaukee are jerrymandered

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01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 1: the districts that include the Mark Pocan's district. Is anybody

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01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 1: going to say, well, that's jerrymandered. He can't possibly lose

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01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: because he's got so many Democrats. No, it's just how

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01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 1: Democrats organize themselves. Same thing with Gwen Moore. When a party,

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01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: typically the Democrats, packs itself into just a couple of

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01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: super majority districts around big urban centers like Milwaukee and Madison,

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01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 1: the geography is naturally going to tilt heavily Republican, even

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Speaker 1: under maps that are compact and that are otherwise neutral.

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Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with Republicans jerrymandering. It has

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01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: everything to do with Democrats just not wanting to live

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01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: in Rock County or you know, Iron County. For those

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01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: of you hunting right now in far northern Wisconsin or

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01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 1: the central part of the state, or just some random city,

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01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 1: I want you to count up how many hate has

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01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: no home here signs that you see, how many coexist

1137
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 1: bumper stickers are you seeing rolling around the village of Tomahawk.

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01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 1: If you're in Spread Eagle, Wisconsin. I want you to

1139
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,799
Speaker 1: take a look at how many pride flags you see

1140
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: Democrats don't live in those areas in huge numbers. Republicans

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01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: have a tendency to they want to live in rural areas.

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01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: They want to spread themselves out in geographically diverse places.

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01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: When we come back here on the Dan o'donald Show,

1144
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 1: Fox con is in the news, we will bust some

1145
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: myths about that, plus the affordability crisis and much more

1146
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: on the Dan O'Donnells Show. And we could be in

1147
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: for a big winter storm across southern Wisconsin this Thanksgiving weekend.

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01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: Our friend Tom walks over at Fox six says we're

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01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 1: going to be near white out or low visibility to

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01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: no visibility conditions tomorrow. He says that this is much

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01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: more about zero visibility than accumulation. Tomorrow, we could see

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01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: one to three inches of snow north or northwest of Milwaukee,

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01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: but folks driving will have a very hard time seeing

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01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: with the snow flying around. If you are in the

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01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: Milwaukee area, if you are on a line about west

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01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 1: of Madison, I know a lot of people are listening

1157
01:15:55,640 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 1: to us on our great affiliate WIBA in Madison, you

1158
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: are probably seeing between one to two inches. If you're

1159
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 1: in the Milwaukee area, maybe an inch or two. Again,

1160
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: this is going to be one of those that is

1161
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 1: very difficult for meteorologists to predict because the temperature is

1162
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: going to be very near thirty two degrees On Saturday. However,

1163
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: all of us are very likely to see a winter storm.

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01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 1: If the track holds that they're currently looking at right now,

1165
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 1: we'll see several inches of snow, possibly more than six inches.

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01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 1: Talk about a kickoff to Christmas, although coming at the

1167
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: worst possible time for those going over the river and

1168
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: through the woods to grandmother's house. You want to join

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01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 1: us on the Dan O'Donnells Show on this the final

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01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: hour of the Tuesday edition four one four seven nine

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Speaker 1: nine eleven thirty or one eight hundred eight three eight

1172
01:16:55,760 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: nine four seven six DoD at iHeartMedia dot com. You

1173
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: can send me an email. Please do send those submissions

1174
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty five Dan o'donald Show Family Christmas Special.

1175
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: Of course, follow us on social media at Dan o'donald's

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01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 1: Show on Xfacebook dot com, slash Dan o'donald Show, and

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01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: of course we are on Instagram as well.

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01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 2: We're also streaming on.

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01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: YouTube on LinkedIn because heck, why not we can stream

1180
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: on LinkedIn, so we will and a reminder, we are

1181
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: consistently one of the top news podcasts on the iHeartRadio charts.

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01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: I'm still not exactly sure how they do these rankings.

1183
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 1: I think it's just whatever is on the iHeartRadio platform.

1184
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: Podtrack is sort of the standard bearer for what the

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01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 1: most popular podcasts are in America right now.

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01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,879
Speaker 2: I believe number one.

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01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: Is either the Charlie Kirk Podcast, which of course has

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01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: been hosted by guest hosts since Charlie's Assassin, or the

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01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 1: Candace Owens Podcast, in large measure because of Candace's obsession

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01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: with truly baseless conspiracy theories surrounding Charlie's assassination. And when

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01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 1: I say truly baseless, I don't mean like the Kennedy

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01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 1: assassination where it's sort of become this cultural touchstone. I

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01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: mean she is taking completely unrelated events and tying them

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01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:34,799
Speaker 1: into Charlie's. She actually obtusely accused Charlie's widow, Erica Kirk,

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01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: of having a role in Charlie's murder. This is truly insane.

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Speaker 1: And I say this as someone who didn't just respect

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01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 1: Candace Owens. I've actually been on her show. I did

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01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 1: a Twitter spaces with her I was in her documentary

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Speaker 1: on the Steven Avery case a couple of years back.

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Speaker 1: We had Candace on the Dan O'Donnell show a couple

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01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 1: of years ago when that documentary was premiering.

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01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 2: I was on with her for something.

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01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: Oh, this is a long long time ago, as something

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01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,879
Speaker 1: with Wisconsin politics. This had to be like twenty seventeen,

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01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen when I first started doing a show. I mean,

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01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 1: she was relatively new as well. So it just it

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01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,759
Speaker 1: brings me no joy to say Candace Owens has gone

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01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 1: off the deep end. And I actually had a listener

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01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 1: who is in his twenties, and he said, Dan, could

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01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:35,719
Speaker 1: you please debunk all of Candace Owens's lies in depth

1211
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: about Charlie's assassination because it's shocking just how many people

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01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 1: believe this. And I thought that that might be a

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01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 1: waste of time, but I'm now thinking just I did.

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01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 1: I sort of went down a rabbit hole on X

1215
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: about just what she has been saying about the Tyler

1216
01:19:55,080 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: Robinson case, about the Kirk assassination, and it's shocking. Now

1217
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: she's say this is black helicopter stuff. She's saying that

1218
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 1: there is a team of French assassins who is out

1219
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: to get her because of the lies, the verifiable lies

1220
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 1: that she's spread about Brigitte Macrone not only being transgender,

1221
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 1: but actually stealing the identity of her deceased brother, that

1222
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 1: her brother is she's pretending to be a woman, that

1223
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 1: the person who was supposed to be her brother is

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01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 1: actually Brigitte.

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01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:32,759
Speaker 2: It's very weird.

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01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 1: The brother was at Emmanuel Macrone's swearing in ceremonies, like

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01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:38,799
Speaker 1: he's still alive.

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01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 2: You can see him in pictures. I don't.

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01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: But she also accused the woman of being part of

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01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: a grooming gang. It's just it is truly insane stuff.

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01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking possibly after the Thanksgiving holiday we will

1232
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: dive into the many lies of Candace Owens and and

1233
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 1: why this stuff is gaining traction on social media. But

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01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: it is just completely divorced from reality. What was the

1235
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 1: left's famous lie about the Fox con development. This is

1236
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: going back some years. Do you remember what it was?

1237
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:24,640
Speaker 1: That Governor Walker was just giving the shady taiwan Is

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01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: industrialists state money without any jobs being created, right, This

1239
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: was the lie that Evers was just or excuse me,

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01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 1: Walker was just backing up a dump truck full of money,

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01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 1: and that Fox con, which promised thirteen thousand jobs in

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01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: this massive LCD screen factory. It never materialized, but they

1243
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,719
Speaker 1: they ran off with billions of dollars in state money.

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01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 2: Remember that lie.

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01:21:56,439 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: Every so often in drips and drops is forced to

1246
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: report the truth. Most recently, big headline this afternoon at

1247
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: jsonline dot com, the website of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel,

1248
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 1: the headline fox Conn promises one three hundred and seventy

1249
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:19,839
Speaker 1: four new jobs, gets sixteen million dollars more in state money.

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01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 1: The Wisconsin Economic Development Corporations state agency approved what it

1251
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 1: calls performance based tax incentives for FOXCN after FOXCN added

1252
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: more than thirteen hundred jobs to its Mount Pleasant operations.

1253
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: Now wait a second, I thought FOXCN got money no

1254
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: matter what. Remember Governor Evers just gave those untrustworthy Asians,

1255
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 1: and there was always a little tinge of racism in there,

1256
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 1: that we can't trust these people because they're foreigners. That

1257
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: was the left's central argument in twenty seventeen when the

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01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: fox Conn plant was announced. They originally promised ten billion

1259
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 1: dollars and thirteen thousand jobs that didn't materialize. Was it

1260
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 1: because of Governor Walker? Was it because they played him?

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01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 1: When's the last time you bought an LCD television, the

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01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: market changed. OLED became the dominant technology in television screens.

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01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 1: LCD was it in twenty seventeen. In twenty twenty five,

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01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: it's not. And unfortunately, OLED competition killed the fox Conn plant. So,

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01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: like any good business, fox Conn was forced to pivot.

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01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 1: But it's not as though the fox Con facility has

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01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 1: been a total failure. They're adding thirteen hundred jobs. It

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01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 1: is an AI centric plant. There is about twelve hundred

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Speaker 1: jobs I believe as of last count, and seven hundred

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01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: million dollars in capital investment. Fox Con in twenty twenty

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01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 1: four employed eleven hundred full time employees. Do you know

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Speaker 1: what the average wage is? About seventy four thousand dollars

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01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 1: with overtime pay, well above the average manufacturing job in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: There is an.

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01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: AI server production facility that is going up. It was

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01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 1: just announced. I believe it's something like five hundred and

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01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 1: sixty five hundred and seventy million dollars in investment. There's

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Speaker 1: going to be a total of about one point two

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01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 1: billion dollars worth of investments by twenty twenty nine. Now,

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Speaker 1: the promise was initially up to three billion dollars in

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01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 1: tax incentives in exchange for ten billion of investment and

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01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 1: the creation of thirteen thousand jobs. The incentives were explicitly

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01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 1: tied to job creation. Fox Conn would get one point

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01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 1: five billion dollars if it created and maintained the thirteen

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Speaker 1: thousand jobs, and they had to be full time jobs,

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01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 1: they had to be good paying jobs, and the WEEDC

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01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: needed to verify and it would verify every quarter whether

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01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: fox Conn was actually creating those jobs. There was an

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Speaker 1: additional one point three billion dollars that was linked to

1290
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 1: capital investments, So every dollar that fox Conn would invest,

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01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 1: it would get a certain percentage back in the form

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01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 1: of tax incentives. Democrats argued for years, they just lied

1293
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 1: to the public's face, and the media, the Journal Sentinel

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01:25:56,520 --> 01:26:01,680
Speaker 1: chief among them, just drove this objectively false narrative that

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01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 1: Governor Evers bankrupted the state. He just handed bags full

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01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: of money to the dastardly Taiwanese even though they weren't

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Speaker 1: building what they initially promised.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if you notice, but.

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Speaker 1: There was kind of this massive global pandemic right after

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Speaker 1: fox Con was supposed to begin operations of its big

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Speaker 1: LCD production facility, and in Wisconsin under Governor Evers, there

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Speaker 1: was no ability to actually work for way longer than

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Speaker 1: there should have been. That also played a role, but

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Speaker 1: the biggest one was just a change in the market.

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, the fox Con facility is

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Speaker 1: now being used not just by fox Conn. You've got

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Speaker 1: Microsoft getting in the AI data game and it is

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Speaker 1: the perfect location for AI data centers. In other words, words,

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Speaker 1: the fox Gone facility has been anything but a failure.

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Speaker 1: But because this narrative is so front and center in

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Speaker 1: people's minds, because organizations like the Journal Sentinel dutifully parroted

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Speaker 1: Democrat lies and they were lies. This was the most

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Speaker 1: nefarious lie one could have told, that Governor Evers had

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Speaker 1: just given out money willy nilly and not the truth,

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Speaker 1: which was there was no money exchange that was not

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Speaker 1: directly tied.

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Speaker 2: To job performance.

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Speaker 1: Now, there were local incentives from Racine County, there were roads,

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Speaker 1: and there were utility incentives, those sorts of things, but

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Speaker 1: those were separate. There was a small portion of them

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Speaker 1: that was in fact front loaded. But state funds, the

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Speaker 1: money that was coming directly from state taxpayers and that

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Speaker 1: was behind performance, that was completely walled off behind performance incentives.

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Speaker 1: Fox Con didn't get a dime unless it created a job.

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Speaker 1: And it's amazing that now eight years later, November of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, we're finally getting the truth. The headline

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Speaker 1: can be with, oh, hey, look at this, fox Conn

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Speaker 1: is creating thirteen hundred jobs and it's getting sixteen million

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Speaker 1: dollars in tax in setives. Well, yeah, that was sort

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Speaker 1: of always the deal, and yes, it was by necessity

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Speaker 1: renegotiated when fox Conn came to the state and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: nobody is buying LCD televisions anymore, and we can't manufacture

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Speaker 1: OLED televisions here. We need to change course. So Governor Evers,

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Speaker 1: and I will give him credit, his administration actually did

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Speaker 1: a very good job renegotiating the fox Conn deal. They

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Speaker 1: were initially insanely hostile to fox Con because of the

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Speaker 1: politics of it, and of course Governor Evers made fox

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Speaker 1: Conn a big boogeyman of his twenty eighteen gubernatorial campaign.

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Speaker 1: But once Evers was in office and said, okay, look,

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Speaker 1: the cooler heads I think needed to prevail there. I

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Speaker 1: believe it was Missy Hughes, who's now running for governor.

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Speaker 1: She was the head of WDC.

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Speaker 4: She was or was.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm second guessing that.

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Speaker 1: But whoever it was that was at WEDC and whoever

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Speaker 1: it was that was negotiating the deal with fox Conn,

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Speaker 1: both sides said, look, we need to renegotiate it because

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Speaker 1: obviously the deal is going to be smaller. It does

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Speaker 1: work for both sides rather obviously fox Con now is saying, Okay, hey,

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Speaker 1: we have use of this facility, we have need for it,

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Speaker 1: and the Evers administration is sticking to its end of

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Speaker 1: the bargain with generous tax incentives that are still tied

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Speaker 1: as they always were.

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Speaker 2: To job performance. You're listening to the Dan O'Donnell show.

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Speaker 2: Happy holidays from all of us. We will be back

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Speaker 2: in just three minutes.

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Speaker 1: Her extradition, right, She is not fighting extradition back to Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: She knows what's coming. State of Wisconsin now has thirty

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Speaker 1: days to come get her from the Cook County jail.

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Speaker 1: She is not going to be granted bond. She made

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Speaker 1: her appearance accompanied by a public defender in Cook County

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Speaker 1: Court this afternoon. This, of course, after she just kind

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Speaker 1: of walked away from her group home. She cut off

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Speaker 1: her electronic monitoring bracelet on Saturday night, nobody bothered to

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Speaker 1: tell Madison police, and she and her creepy forty three

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Speaker 1: year old transgender boyfriend named Chad Slash Charlie Mecha took

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Speaker 1: a bus down to Chicago and then another one down

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Speaker 1: to a suburb about twenty five minutes southeast of the city,

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Speaker 1: where she was confronted by police officers. Body camera video

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Speaker 1: released today from a gas station where the two of

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Speaker 1: them were apparently sleeping. The cops just wanted to get

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Speaker 1: their name, said, hey, who are you? We want to

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Speaker 1: make sure you're not wanted for murder r row now

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Speaker 1: attempted murder. You know, we can't always succeed in everything

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Speaker 1: you do. The two of them refused to give their names.

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Speaker 1: This immediately aroused suspicion on the part of the officers

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Speaker 1: down in pose in Illinois, and they eventually got out

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01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 1: of Morgan who she was. They put two and two together.

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Speaker 1: I believe at one point she said, you can google

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Speaker 1: my name and see what I did. She said, I

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Speaker 1: did something really, really bad. That's why I don't want

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Speaker 1: to tell you my name. But she referring to the

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Speaker 1: transgender creepy boyfriend Chad Slash Charlie Mecca. She is totally innocent.

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Speaker 1: She didn't do anything wrong. Now by popular demand, we

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Speaker 1: thought that this sounded like the most twisted Hallmark Movie

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Speaker 1: Channel movie that Hallmark has ever put together. So here

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Speaker 1: it is, by popular demand for those who missed it.

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Speaker 1: In the three o'clock hour, the world premiere of the

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Speaker 1: trailer for a slender Man Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Whoops, that's not it. Here it is.

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Speaker 4: He was a lonely transgender domestic abuser looking for love

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Speaker 4: he ran. She was a violent transgender schizophrenic looking to

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Speaker 4: escape something really wrong this holiday season. Their dreams will

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Speaker 4: come true at a gas station in Illinois.

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Speaker 2: And I wanted for murder?

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Speaker 4: Right, the Hallmark Channel probably presents a slender Man Christmas.

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Speaker 6: So Morgan is your first name?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 6: Gey An on her mind?

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Speaker 5: Oh we will, We'll see her again?

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Speaker 9: You will, No, I hope will want something bad.

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01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:12,679
Speaker 4: Let me say goodbye forbidden romance, A daring rescue and

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01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:16,759
Speaker 4: an incompetent Department of corrections who made that magic happen?

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Speaker 10: There are questions about why it took eleven hours for

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01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 10: police and Madison to learn guys Or had cut off

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01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 10: her GPS ankle monitor.

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Speaker 4: No group home could keep them apart, especially since it

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Speaker 4: just let him climb into her bedroom every night.

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Speaker 3: We understand how to talk to each other, in validate,

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01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 3: and just how to communicate in a really good, healthy.

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Speaker 5: Way, and it was it was really nice.

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01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 4: So cut off your monitoring bracelet, grab the next greyhound

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Speaker 4: bus and take your creepy older transgender boyfriend to see

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01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 4: a slender Man Christmas only on the Hallmark channel. Yes,

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Speaker 4: we really will make a Christmas movie, not of anything.

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Speaker 1: I know what I'll be watching this Thanksgiving weekend. This

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Speaker 1: case does bring up far bigger, broader societal issues about

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Speaker 1: how transgenderism is actually adjudicated and treated in the mental

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Speaker 1: health system, and hopefully this case, especially the new developments

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Speaker 1: in it, will help to explain that, yes, there is

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Speaker 1: a massive tie between schizophrenia and transgender delusions. Gender dysphoria

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Speaker 1: is in itself a mental disorder. It is evidence that

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Speaker 1: somebody is not thinking clearly. It is evidence that somebody

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Speaker 1: is very severely mentally unwell because they severely dislike the

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Speaker 1: most fundamental thing about them, and that is their biological sex.

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Speaker 1: They so dislike it that they truly believe this is

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Speaker 1: where it's a delusion that they were born in the

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Speaker 1: wrong body and that they need to change it. Well,

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Speaker 1: for the longest time, the mental health community would say,

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Speaker 1: all right, this is clearly evidence you're suffering from gendernice

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Speaker 1: for you, this is clearly evidenced that you're not right.

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Speaker 1: Let's treat you. Let's treat the whole person. Let's not

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Speaker 1: just treat your superficial desire to have different sex organs. Well,

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01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:28,679
Speaker 1: somehow that changed, somehow, that got perverted. Somehow the mental

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Speaker 1: health community started dealing with transgenderism as its own, separate

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Speaker 1: sort of thing. This is where we really got into

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Speaker 1: a lot of trouble. This is where we started to

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Speaker 1: see a decided shift in transgender individuals. We now know

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Speaker 1: that roughly forty one percent of them will commit suicide.

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Speaker 1: And what we now know about Morgan Geyser thanks to

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Speaker 1: the creepy transgender boyfriend calling into a Madison news station.

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Speaker 1: I said, look, she told me she's going to leave,

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Speaker 1: She is going to run away with or without me,

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Speaker 1: and that she's not going to go back to prison,

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Speaker 1: she's not going to go back to the mental health facility.

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Speaker 1: And I knew what that meant. He was talking about

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Speaker 1: her killing herself. Now, that to me is concrete evidence

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Speaker 1: that she was still in a fragile mental state and

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Speaker 1: that she should absolutely never have been released from her

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Speaker 1: mental health facility. You're listening to the Dan O'Donnell Show.

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Speaker 1: It is conservative thought, not just talk, and it will

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Speaker 1: be right back. For the past several weeks so we

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Speaker 1: have been very focused here on the Dan O'Donnell Show

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Speaker 1: on the affordability crisis. After years of Biden inflation, the

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01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 1: nation's economy is in a precarious posse position, not at

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Speaker 1: the highest ends. The stock market is doing great for

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01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 1: people who are invested, those who own homes are seeing

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Speaker 1: the values of said homes explode. But for younger people

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Speaker 1: who are just entering adulthood, just entering the workforce, just

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Speaker 1: entering the home buying market, it can become overwhelming when

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Speaker 1: the price of everything has just exploded. I'll give you

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Speaker 1: a for instance, my kids beg me they're off all

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Speaker 1: week for Thanksgiving. First time ever. The district just gave

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Speaker 1: them the whole week. I guess they were tired of

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Speaker 1: everybody just taking because they used to get off Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday, and everybody would just take off the

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Speaker 1: full week. So it's all right, all right, all right,

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Speaker 1: we get the picture. We were going to give the

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Speaker 1: other whole. The kids begged me, the younger ones anyway,

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Speaker 1: begged me to get Chick fil A on door dash.

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Speaker 1: So we got four Chick fil alors. You know, you

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Speaker 1: get one of these deliveries services. The price is typically inflated.

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Speaker 2: For Chick fil A.

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Speaker 1: For four people on door dash with a tip, it

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Speaker 1: was one hundred and twenty dollars. One hundred and twenty dollars. Now,

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Speaker 1: this isn't to bash Chick fil A. I love Chick

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Speaker 1: fil A. But when you're paying that much more for food,

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Speaker 1: and it's not just fast food or restaurant food, it's

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Speaker 1: food at home, and you're also paying that much more

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Speaker 1: for rent, You're paying that much more in student loans

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Speaker 1: for your college tuition, everything, home ownership becomes increasingly impossible.

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Speaker 1: Joining us now on the phone to talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Is the former US Ambassador to Denmark. She is the

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Speaker 1: former CEO of the Vantage Capital Group. She is a

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Speaker 1: member of the America First Policy Institute. And it sounds

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Speaker 1: like there's pretty much nothing she hasn't done. Carlas Sands

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Speaker 1: might guest on the Dan o'donald show. Miss Sands.

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Speaker 2: It is a pleasure and an honor to have you.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, Dan, I'm so happy to talk to

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Speaker 5: you and all your listeners.

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Speaker 1: So I think I've got it pretty well summarized. People

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01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 1: just can no longer afford anything thanks to four years

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Speaker 1: of disastrous economic policy under the Biden administration.

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Speaker 5: Right yeah, it's I mean it is being rolled back

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Speaker 5: under President Trump's amazing policies of deregulation and the largest

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Speaker 5: tax cut in our country's history, working with the Republican Congress.

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Speaker 5: It is being rolled back. People are seeing a drop

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Speaker 5: in prices, for instance, most groceries, like you know, the

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Speaker 5: staples at the grocery store. But we sure don't feel

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Speaker 5: it all that much yet.

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Speaker 2: No, we certainly don't.

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Speaker 1: In fact, there was this story out of Wisconsin just

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Speaker 1: today ahead of one of the busiest Thanksgiving holidays we're

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Speaker 1: ever going to have it. In fact, I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to be record breaking. Apparently the price of the

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Speaker 1: pump is down significantly here in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 9: Good news from gas Buddy. Prices in Wisconsin are down,

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Speaker 9: the news hitting before the Thanksgiving holiday. The average price

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Speaker 9: for a gallon of regular is two dollars and seventy

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01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:20,679
Speaker 9: three cents. That's nearly a ten cent drop from last

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01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 9: month and twelve cents a year ago.

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Speaker 1: That is a direct result, I think miss sands of

1514
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 1: what you're talking about President Trump's deregulatory agenda, which is

1515
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 1: being most acutely felt in the area of domestic energy production.

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01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 5: Yes, and energy inputs, Like the cost of energy affects

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01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 5: the cost of just everything farming, the grocery store, I mean,

1518
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 5: everything you buy in the store or online. Everything goes

1519
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:52,800
Speaker 5: up when there's high energy prices. And President Trump is

1520
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 5: really fighting to bring those prices down using a whole

1521
01:40:56,000 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 5: of government approach, working with Secretary Doug Bergham, who runs

1522
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 5: Interior Department for President Trump. But there's so many other

1523
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 5: efforts that President Trump is doing. Now we still we're

1524
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 5: starting to feel it. We kind of think we're feeling it.

1525
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:14,679
Speaker 5: You know, the cost of the turkey meal, the turkey

1526
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 5: dinner is going down a little bit this Thanksgiving. But

1527
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 5: by twenty twenty six, when some of these jobs start,

1528
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 5: the on shoring that he's doing, the trillions of dollars

1529
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:29,679
Speaker 5: a foreign investment he's getting, and US companies as well

1530
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 5: committing to hundreds of billions of dollars of investment right

1531
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 5: here in the good old US of A. We're really

1532
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 5: going to start feeling it rock and roll. And then

1533
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 5: in two years, like if you've got a kid that

1534
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:44,720
Speaker 5: just got out of college, he's going to probably he

1535
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 5: or she have five good offers. They're gonna need so

1536
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 5: much skilled labor. So if they're in high school and

1537
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 5: they can take a course, you know that gives them

1538
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 5: a trade or helps them skill up that they can

1539
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 5: work in something like energy or in a highly automated factory,

1540
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 5: because you know, making stuff doesn't look the same as

1541
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 5: it did when I was just out of college. It's

1542
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:11,600
Speaker 5: it's a lot more mechanized now. So you have to

1543
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 5: be able to use a computer.

1544
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 1: Well it's not only that, I mean, it's it's AI.

1545
01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:19,479
Speaker 1: You're going to need to be able to use about

1546
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 1: fifteen different AIS. You're going to need to be proficient

1547
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 1: in pretty much every artificial intelligence language that there is,

1548
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:32,600
Speaker 1: know how to do pretty much everything. I was just

1549
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 1: struck by what the Nvidia CEO, Jensen Wong said, You're

1550
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 1: not going to lose your job to an AI. You're

1551
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 1: going to lose your job to somebody using an AI.

1552
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:46,599
Speaker 1: So when we talk about you know, skilling up. Remember

1553
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 1: what it was just seven eight years ago that you

1554
01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 1: had journalists telling all the coal miners. Remember when Biden

1555
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 1: was basically promising to beg from Remember they were saying, well,

1556
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:02,639
Speaker 1: you should just learn to code. Yeah, yeah, you should

1557
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,880
Speaker 1: just learn to code. Well, the irony now is AI

1558
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 1: can code. The coders are going to have to learn

1559
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 1: to coal mine.

1560
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 5: That's right, you know, or learn plumbing or learn some

1561
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:17,720
Speaker 5: other skill that's you know. Yeah, we're they're not going

1562
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 5: to need as many human coders. Now, we're gonna need

1563
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:23,160
Speaker 5: human coders to watch over the machine coders. Sure, but

1564
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 5: there's not going to We're not going to need that

1565
01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 5: many of them. And listen, the young people get it,

1566
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 5: they're working with AI. It's dinosaurs like me that have

1567
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 5: to get in there and learn to actually use AI

1568
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 5: in my everyday life so that I can use my

1569
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 5: own brain but also have that as another tool in

1570
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:42,760
Speaker 5: my toolbox.

1571
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:46,840
Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you it has absolutely revolutionized just

1572
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 1: this silly little radio show. Uh, if you're watching on

1573
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 1: the Danocama or live stream, you'll see a neon light

1574
01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: behind me. That was just my logo I put through

1575
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 1: AI and the background is a green screen. But it's

1576
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:08,639
Speaker 1: a radio studio looking background that we just had AI

1577
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 1: make up. I mean the research that I'm doing, I

1578
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 1: am augmenting it with AI, right, like.

1579
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:18,919
Speaker 5: That is super cool. Yeah, I mean it's just somebody online.

1580
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 5: You better be careful because they might not look in

1581
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 5: person like what the AI photo made them look.

1582
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:25,920
Speaker 2: Oh, don't worry.

1583
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 1: This this wrinkly face that's slightly too pudgy heading into

1584
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 1: the holiday season.

1585
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 2: This is all me.

1586
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 1: This is this is not an AI. Carlo Sans, my

1587
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 1: guest here on the Dan O'Donnell Show. The big issue

1588
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:43,960
Speaker 1: I think miss Sands is home affordability. You know, the

1589
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 1: the American dream, the house, the white picket fence, the

1590
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:50,639
Speaker 1: two kids, the dog, all of that. So many young

1591
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 1: people are saying that that's just not attainable anymore. And

1592
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 1: because we've seen such a spike in in home prices,

1593
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 1: in interest rates, in property taxes, as well as some

1594
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:08,160
Speaker 1: of the other debts that people are incurring, like college

1595
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:14,759
Speaker 1: tuition loans, what is the Trump administration doing. I saw

1596
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:17,760
Speaker 1: some of the trial balloons, the fifty year mortgage, the

1597
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 1: portable mortgage, the two thousand dollars tariff rebate, that sort

1598
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 1: of thing. But it really strikes me as politically precarious

1599
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 1: ahead of the midterms, because now the Trump administration is

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01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 1: rather cruelly taking the blame for what Joe Biden did

1601
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:37,600
Speaker 1: to home affordability.

1602
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:41,639
Speaker 5: Yes, Joe Biden did this because of how he flooded

1603
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 5: the zone with so much money and how he.

1604
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:45,559
Speaker 2: Had immigrants competing for.

1605
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:50,519
Speaker 5: House interest rates. Right, so by printing so much money

1606
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 5: and by raising the interest rates super fast, which Jerome Powell,

1607
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 5: our chairman of the Fed did instead of starting to

1608
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 5: raise the incrementally so that we didn't all have shock.

1609
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 5: We all got shocked and shook when he raised those

1610
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 5: rates super fast, and we were just a wash in inflation,

1611
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 5: which was I think the worst inflationary time in our

1612
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:14,639
Speaker 5: country's history. That's all we managed.

1613
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:14,720
Speaker 3: That.

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01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:19,200
Speaker 5: Yes, so everything costs more now because of Joe Biden,

1615
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 5: So we get that. But how do we make housing

1616
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 5: more affordable so that young men and women can buy

1617
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:27,640
Speaker 5: a house and get married and have a family the

1618
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 5: American dream. Well, this is not a new problem. When

1619
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:33,200
Speaker 5: my dad bought his first house, I think he was

1620
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:35,559
Speaker 5: twenty three, I couldn't afford to buy a house at

1621
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 5: twenty three. I couldn't afford to buy a house at

1622
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 5: even thirty because the cost of housing has gone up

1623
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 5: so much over the years compared to the real wages.

1624
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:47,679
Speaker 5: And this is the same thing when I was a kid,

1625
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:50,639
Speaker 5: one wage earner could support a whole family, buy a house,

1626
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 5: buy a car, own a TV, take the family on

1627
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 5: a vacation every year. But our wages haven't kept up

1628
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 5: with inflation. And a lot of that has to do

1629
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:04,760
Speaker 5: with illegal immigration. But the biggest driver are companies, employers

1630
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:08,680
Speaker 5: that moved those jobs and that production, that manufacturing to

1631
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 5: Asia now to China, and those jobs that went away.

1632
01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 5: That was all throughout our heartland. I grew up in Pennsylvania.

1633
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 5: I know exactly what it's like in Wisconsin because those

1634
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:25,559
Speaker 5: hollowed out manufacturing towns that were robust and wealthy. Now

1635
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 5: they've had to repurpose, They've maybe they're smaller than they

1636
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 5: were twenty thirty, forty years ago. It's not the same prosperity.

1637
01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:36,559
Speaker 5: President Trump's working to bring that back. He's got the

1638
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 5: opportunity zones he's putting in place again. But he's also

1639
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:44,759
Speaker 5: doing things like emptying the country of illegal immigrants. Illegal

1640
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 5: immigrants caused the price of housing to go up too

1641
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 5: because they take the houses. I think there's there, There

1642
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 5: are many many things he's doing. I agree with you.

1643
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 5: I'm a little skeptical on the fifty year mortgage, and

1644
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 5: I don't like the two thousand dollars because that's causes

1645
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:05,160
Speaker 5: everything to go up in long inflation. David, Yeah, but

1646
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 5: he's got this housing issue in his mind. In fact,

1647
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:12,680
Speaker 5: at America First Policy Institute, Benny Johnson has just come

1648
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 5: on board working with us. Oh we did get Champion, Yes. Oh.

1649
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:20,760
Speaker 5: I love Benny and for affordable houses so that whether

1650
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 5: you want your first apartment and you want to move

1651
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:25,200
Speaker 5: out from mom and dad, which is a rite of

1652
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 5: passage where you want to buy your first house, you

1653
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:31,800
Speaker 5: can have the dignity to go and do that. That

1654
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:34,640
Speaker 5: is part of the American dream that President Trump is

1655
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 5: fighting for every single day, and I know he's going

1656
01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 5: to get it done.

1657
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 1: Carlos Sands with the America First Policy Institute, my guest

1658
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 1: here on the Dan o'donald Show. Thank you so very

1659
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 1: much for joining us in Hey, happy Thanksgiving to you.

1660
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:54,680
Speaker 5: Okay, thanks, Happy Thanksgiving to everybody you are listening to

1661
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 5: The Dan o'donald Show.

1662
01:48:56,160 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 1: It is classical conservatism and contemporary style. People want to

1663
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 1: know what I bought from Chick fil A that costs

1664
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty bucks. I have no idea like

1665
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:14,160
Speaker 1: thees and gentlemen. I gave my kids the phone. The

1666
01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:18,640
Speaker 1: door dasher arrived and I looked at the bill and said,

1667
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, I don't know. I think the lesson

1668
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:25,000
Speaker 1: is when you get Uber Eats or you get door

1669
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 1: Dash or something like that, the price is tremendously inflated.

1670
01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 1: But that will be the last time we are ever

1671
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:34,839
Speaker 1: doing Chick fil A door Dash.

1672
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:35,880
Speaker 2: I can tell you that much.

1673
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:39,680
Speaker 1: But it's everywhere you go to McDonald's, you go to

1674
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 1: any fast food place, any sit down place, you are

1675
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:48,320
Speaker 1: just paying substantially more. Now you want to know why

1676
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:50,920
Speaker 1: people are suddenly focused on the price of things, It's

1677
01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:54,719
Speaker 1: because the media is, for the first time in five years,

1678
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:58,120
Speaker 1: focusing on the price of things in an obvious effort

1679
01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 1: to blame the president, who most certainly was not responsible

1680
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:07,880
Speaker 1: for the massive price increases. We had the highest inflation

1681
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:12,599
Speaker 1: in forty years under Joe Biden for the first two

1682
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 1: plus years of his presidency. The only reason that inflation

1683
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:21,760
Speaker 1: year over years subsided. Prices didn't go down. Prices have

1684
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:25,639
Speaker 1: been going up steadily since twenty twenty one. They spiked

1685
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:29,519
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three before finally

1686
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 1: declining because the Federal Reserve dramatically increased interest rates, as

1687
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 1: our guest Carlo Sans said, leading to a shock to

1688
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 1: the system, all but collapsing the housing market because all

1689
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you've got prices that are overly inflated

1690
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:50,479
Speaker 1: because of the massive housing bubble, and now you've got

1691
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:54,679
Speaker 1: interest rate payments, which is further choking off the supply

1692
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:57,680
Speaker 1: of potential buyers who are in a two and a

1693
01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 1: half or three percent mortgage and are not going to

1694
01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:04,080
Speaker 1: get out for a six percent mortgage for an eight

1695
01:51:04,160 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars house that cost four hundred and fifty

1696
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:12,120
Speaker 1: thousand dollars in twenty nineteen. I mean, this is just

1697
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:16,840
Speaker 1: basic economic stuff and the fact that the Biden administration

1698
01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 1: is not being blamed. For four years we were running cover.

1699
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:24,080
Speaker 1: The media was running cover for the Biden administrations, and

1700
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 1: all the president has very little to do.

1701
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:26,559
Speaker 5: Oh.

1702
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 1: Yes, economic policy from the United States of America has

1703
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:34,880
Speaker 1: very little to do with prices across the globe, and

1704
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 1: especially in the United States. Yes, please tell me more

1705
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:43,879
Speaker 1: about your macroeconomic theories, liberals, please, But we heard nothing

1706
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 1: about that. Now, all of a sudden, there's this hyper focus.

1707
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:49,720
Speaker 1: Remember the first couple of months of the Trump administration

1708
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:52,519
Speaker 1: where they were hyper fixated on the price of eggs,

1709
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:56,840
Speaker 1: as if to show that somehow Trump was responsible for this.

1710
01:51:57,240 --> 01:51:59,640
Speaker 1: Then the price of eggs plummeted, and all of a

1711
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:03,760
Speaker 1: sudden that narrative stopped. Well, now they're starting to see, Hey,

1712
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:06,920
Speaker 1: the American dream is dead and Trump killed it. No,

1713
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 1: it's because Biden flooded the country with government spending and

1714
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:16,599
Speaker 1: flooded the country with illegal immigrants competing with Americans for housing.

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01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 1: Out of time for today's show, we are back. Remember

1716
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 1: Rush's real story of the first Thanksgiving Tomorrow. I have

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01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:23,720
Speaker 1: a great evening, Wisconsin,