1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: There's a news story here that has just broken by Newsweek. 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: Donald Trump launches investigation into CNN over Iran ceasefire. President 4 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: Donald Trump said that CNN made a false statement in 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: the moments following the announcement of the ceasefire on Tuesday night. 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: In opposed to x, the White House said that a 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: headline on the CNN Live blog reading quote Iran claims 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: victory says it forced us to accept ten point plan unquote, 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: was false. This alleged statement by Iran as by a fraud, 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: is a fraud. Correct immediately, the White House rapid response account, 11 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: said a CNN spokesperson told Newsweek and an email Tuesday night, 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: the statement in question was obtained by CNN from Iranian 13 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: officials and reported on multiple Iranian state media outlets. So 14 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: CNN basically is serving as a microphone for Iranian state 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 2: media outlets. We received the statement from specific Iranian spokespeople 16 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: who were known to us. Okay, all right, it's unbelievable. 17 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. According to the to the White House, the 18 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: alleged statement put out by CNN World News is a fraud, 19 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: as CNN well knows. Trump said his post, adding the 20 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: false statement was linked to a fake news site from Nigeria, 21 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 2: and of course immediately picked up by CNN and bled 22 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: out as a legitimate headline. Well again, you know, it 23 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: would be like reporting, I guess in World War Two 24 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: that Japanese warplanes bravely attacked US Navy personnel at Pearl 25 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 2: Harbor because the Navy personnel's mere presence at Pearl Harbor 26 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: in Hawaii represented a threat to the Imperial Emperor of Japan. 27 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: I guess may how times have changed. Let me go 28 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: to Dave and Brighton. Dave, you were next on Nightside. 29 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: How are you, sir? 30 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: Good sir? 31 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 4: Then get taken my call. 32 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: Welcome. 33 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: I have the whole hearted You disagree with you. A 34 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 4: leopard can't change his spots. You could put lipstick on 35 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: a pig, it's still a pig. When a week ago, 36 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 4: when the President vice president were receiving the parties of 37 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 4: those poor servicemen that lost their lives over there, yeah, 38 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 4: they kept saying this. 39 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 5: The President finished the job. So therefore these people that 40 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 5: lostaw their loved ones. You know, now they're saying, like 41 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 5: what you know, why is he doing this, only bad 42 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 5: things can happen. There was a ship coming from Beijing 43 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 5: in international waters headed to Irian with grown pops fuel 44 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 5: fertilizer for them. You know, while this goes on, they're 45 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 5: just gonna restock. You can't trust them, you know, if 46 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 5: you believe that, I'll saw have some beachfront properly in 47 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 5: Roxbury and they can't be trusted. 48 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't disagree with you, by the way 49 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: that that Iran has proven over the years they can't 50 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: be trusted. They misled the Obama administration. They have tried to, 51 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: you know, produce a nuclear weapon or they said that 52 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: they're very close to producing eleven nuclear weapons. That was 53 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: a moment of candor from Iran. Apparently that was disclosed 54 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: to Witkof and Kushner at the final negotiation in Geneva 55 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: before the Trump administration decided to attack. Here's the problem, Okay, 56 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: here's the problem. And someone I think with Steve that 57 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: mentioned this. Do you hit the infrastructure sites with Iranian 58 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: women and children standing around them. I don't know if 59 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: they'd be standing around them at four o'clock in the morning, 60 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: but I mean, do you do that? 61 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 4: Do you think that the screme leader really cares they 62 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 4: killed fifty people know that. 63 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: I understand that they do nothing. I do understand that, 64 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: but but it seems to me that two weeks from now, 65 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 2: or if at any time in between, Iran does something 66 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: which breaks the ceasefire, that puts us on the higher 67 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: moral ground and can say, look, we complied, we gave them. 68 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 2: Not only do we give them ten days to negotiate, 69 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: which they did negotiate. And I mean, there's this sort 70 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: of a world public opinion that you have to take 71 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: into some consideration. Well, you can't live your. 72 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 4: Life worrying about what other people think about you. You 73 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: have to do what you think is best. 74 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: Maybe Donald Trump. I mean, if you want to criticize 75 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: Donald Trump from the right and say that he should 76 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: have been blasting bridges and power stations and electrical stations 77 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: and salination stations tonight, that's fine. I'm glad you called 78 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 2: on that one. I think that the decision was made 79 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: tonight looking for an end to I don't think he's 80 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: going to lose his eye off what the goal is, 81 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: which is to make sure that Iran can never have 82 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon. 83 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 5: I think you have to take everything into context in 84 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 5: terms of escalating de escalating. 85 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: Not a lot of people know. But years ago Syria 86 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 4: was developing a nuclear weapon and the besides. 87 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 6: Found out about it. Send guys in gout samples and 88 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 6: they immediately it was when when Aside was in there, 89 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 6: and they took that out the questions to ask and 90 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 6: they didn't say oh yeah. 91 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 2: They just but I think I think again, you're dealing 92 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: in a different set of circumstances. Okay, And look, you 93 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: might be right. So they feel free to call back 94 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: two days from now or two weeks from now where 95 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: this ceasefire is broken. You're on the record. 96 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 7: Here, which is one that doesn't make two weeks. 97 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: Well, that may be true, and if it's, if it is, 98 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: I want you to I have no doubt that you 99 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: will call back. 100 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: So I prob then welcome. 101 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 2: Six one seven, two four ten thirty six one seven, 102 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. I got some open lines here. 103 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: I want to know, are you happier tonight or are 104 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: you like Dave? And you feel that President Trump lost 105 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: his his gumption at the last moment and that that 106 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: he should have followed through. I think that he's doing 107 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: what he thinks is best. Uh. At this point, if 108 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: you destroy the infrastructure of Iran. I don't know how 109 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: they ever build that society back. I think that he 110 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: engaged in some pretty fiery language last night, uh, and 111 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: tonight he has changed tactics. The question will be finally 112 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: resolved if we are able to accomplish what we want, 113 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: and that is a de nuclearized Iran. Join the conversation. 114 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: Coming right back on night Side six one seven two 115 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: thirty six, seven ninety one to know what you think. 116 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: Coming back night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you 117 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: Boston's news Radio. 118 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: Let's keep Roland. You're going to go to Christine in 119 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: havebro Christine. You were next Don night Side. Welcome. 120 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 8: Yes Hi, Dan, Yes Hi. So first of all, I 121 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 8: want to say I agree with you a good night 122 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 8: for America. Totally agree with that. And then I also 123 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 8: appreciate too you always seem to bring up two sides 124 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 8: of the conversation of the issue, so and I find 125 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 8: that hard to find these days, So I so appreciate that. 126 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 8: So so the conversation you had with the Dean was interesting, 127 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 8: and I love the fact that you initially started the 128 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 8: conversation about the reason why we're there. You know, they're 129 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 8: the uranium and the atrocities to their people. And I 130 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 8: was so disappointed that he kind of flopped that off. 131 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 8: He really kind of didn't really want to go there. 132 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 8: He acknowledged it for about two seconds and then quickly 133 00:08:53,880 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 8: went into Trump's actions. And for me, I thought, how 134 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 8: disappointing that was to be so emphatic of what the 135 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 8: war crimes was as he was referring to it, and 136 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 8: to kind of just quickly say, yeah, that's true and 137 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 8: then and no airtime for that. Well, I just thought 138 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,479 Speaker 8: that imbalanced. 139 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: I went after him on that, and he was a gentleman. 140 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: He he obviously has strong feelings, and he comes from academia. 141 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: I come from a different set of circumstances. And I 142 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 2: was glad that that that he was as honest with 143 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: us as he was. I think he said what he 144 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: believed and and firmly believed what he said. 145 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, I agree, But that's my point. Like he 146 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 8: he barely even wanted to talk about that, and and 147 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 8: not I mean, that's not his specialty. Maybe you know, No, 148 00:09:59,080 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 8: it is a. 149 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: Special No, no, he is. That is his. That is 150 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: his specialty. And he feels strongly and he again, I'm 151 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: not going to criticize someone who's who's not here. You 152 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: have your point of view. I thought that he represented 153 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: his point of view very well and I couldn't have 154 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: been happier with the interview. Again, I think that the 155 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: amount of bombing that we have done and the amount 156 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: of boats that we have sunk, and they have only lost, 157 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 2: they have only lost twenty seventy six people. I mean, 158 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: I think we have been extremely careful, extremely careful. And 159 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: when he mentioned the girls' school, it's next to one 160 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: i RG headquarters. I mean that's what they do. They place, 161 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: you know, hospitals and schools close to protect their military. Tonight, 162 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: you saw the video of the women and the children. 163 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: I mean, what does that say about that regime? I absolutely, 164 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: I think those people, I mean you and I both 165 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: agree those people were not doing that. They weren't getting 166 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: up and saying I want to get out there and 167 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: stand there. They were told what they had to. 168 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 8: Do, right, right and right, and they're on a media blackout, 169 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 8: so they don't think I have no idea what's going on? 170 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: I asked. That's why I asked the question, how can 171 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: we be perceived internationally as the bad guy? I know 172 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: Russia and China will hate us because there are competitors. 173 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: I get that, but how we perceived the United States 174 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: of America is the bad guy after everything that we 175 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: have done, the sacrifices that we've made during World War 176 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: II for all of those European countries. 177 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 7: Uh, you know, it's perplexing. 178 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 8: I agree. And you know, my other part is this, 179 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 8: you know, it's about amplifying and and almost maybe amplify 180 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 8: more about the atrocities that they are doing, that Iran 181 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 8: is doing to their people. And that's that's that's so 182 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 8: hard news. I get that that's hard, but that seems 183 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 8: for me it gets lost among all of the other 184 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 8: you know, talking about Trump, and trust me, I have, 185 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 8: you know, my concerns about Trump and how he communicates, 186 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 8: but he's also I think he gets who Iran is 187 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 8: and and playing appropriately. And his biggest critics don't ever 188 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 8: seem to have another solution. You know, they have their 189 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 8: highly critical but they don't have any recommendations that they 190 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 8: want to provide a diplomatic approach, whereas I think that's 191 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 8: been a tried and this is where we are today. 192 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 8: So but yeah, so I do I get so frustrated 193 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 8: where we lose the core of the issue, and we 194 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 8: get caught. 195 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: Up we're going way overboard when for war crimes. I mean, 196 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 2: come on, I'm you know, he's trying to he's trying 197 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 2: to negotiate. And sometimes when you're dealing with a bully, 198 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: when you're dealing with a crazy person, you have to 199 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: let them know that, hey, we're not messing around. You're 200 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 2: not dealing with the Obama administration at this point, You're 201 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: dealing with a different set of people. You're dealing with 202 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 2: Marco Rubio, who understands what communism did to the island 203 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: of Cuba. Cuba, You're dealing with a different set of people. 204 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: You're dealing You're no longer dealing with Mark milly Is, 205 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: the chair of the drugt Chief chief of Staff. You're 206 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: dealing with General Kine. It's a different teams and hopefully 207 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: they can accomplish with their strategy and minimize the damage. Christine, 208 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: I love you call. I appreciate it. I just wish 209 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 2: you'd call more often. Okay, because as you made some 210 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: great points. 211 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 8: Well, thank you so much. I appreciate your as well. 212 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 8: Thanks so much. 213 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 2: Thanks you. Good night. Let's keep rolling. You're going to 214 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 2: go to Charlie and Saugus. Charlie, you're going to get 215 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: us to the bottom of the hour, Go right ahead. 216 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 7: Charlie, Okay again, thank you. 217 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 218 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 7: I think it is a good night for the country. 219 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 7: I'm happy personally myself with with having a cease player 220 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 7: right now. Actually, and you. 221 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 2: Know, I think a lot of time on our sides 222 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 2: at this point. 223 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 7: How love was that? Again? 224 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: I think we have time on our side here. 225 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 226 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, that can make a difference in itself. If you 227 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 7: do have the time on your on your side, a 228 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 7: lot of times it helps to make a better, better 229 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 7: decision for one time. I think a lot of people 230 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 7: have been uh you know, meditating and praying for peaceful 231 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 7: so let's I have myself. That's kind of the way 232 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 7: I am. Uh but uh and when I think about it, 233 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 7: you know, if the electrical riot of the country is 234 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 7: taken down, it could be a lot of uh unintended 235 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 7: casualties like uh no dialysis machines and people who are 236 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 7: on life sustaining machines and things like that, So it 237 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 7: could contribute to uh other casualism. And I don't think that, 238 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 7: you know, put President of Trump, I think he wants 239 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 7: to keep the casualties as low as possible. And I'm 240 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 7: sure he's probably uh now, praying for the right course 241 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 7: of actions for himself. That's why he he tends to 242 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 7: modify his decisions. So I'm sure that he wants the 243 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 7: best outcome for everyone in the love the people in Iran, 244 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 7: and uh the people in the US and and the 245 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 7: rest of the world too. 246 00:15:55,000 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: Actually, well, but I certainly hope so, and yeah, let's 247 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: let's hope that it all turns out well for everyone, 248 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: one of the one of the world benefit if if 249 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: Ron never had the capacity to produce or deliver a 250 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: nuclear weapon, And I think, yeah, yeah, that's. 251 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 7: Nout about that. 252 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: Critically important at this point. So we'll have to see where, 253 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: you know, where the story goes. 254 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 7: I am yeah, to be continuous, that's right. 255 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it will have to be continued. Charlie. I appreciate 256 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: you taking the time to call. We're coming up on 257 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: our newscast, so I gotta screwed at this point, but 258 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: please continue to Okay, I really appreciate you taking the time. 259 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: Have a great night, Charlie. All right, we're going to 260 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: take a quick break. Here here comes the news. We'll 261 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: be back right after the news at the bottom of 262 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: the arrow. The only line open right now is six 263 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: one seven. There's only one subject to talk about tonight. 264 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: This is a historic night, like it or not. Whether 265 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 2: you agree with the president, whether you wanted to see 266 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: more wrath and fire come down on Iran. I think 267 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: the decision tonight is one that needed to be taken. 268 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: And let's see if it leads somewhere. If it doesn't 269 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 2: lead somewhere, that's positive. Maybe this gives the Iranian government, 270 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: whatever is the government, whomever is the government, maybe gives 271 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: them time to come to their senses and say, look, 272 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 2: this is an opportunity for us to move on to 273 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 2: a better place. I hope so, I hope so that 274 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 2: country has labored long enough under the hand the iron hend, 275 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: the iron fist of despotic theocratic dictators. It is time 276 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: for freedom in Iran. Back on Night's Side, right after 277 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: these messages and this newscast. 278 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio. 279 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: Okay, we're going back to the calls. We're going to 280 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: try to move everybody a little bit more quickly. Bill 281 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania, Bill, interesting as to what you have to say. 282 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 9: I'm with you, Dan, I think it's good. You know, 283 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 9: I'm seventy six years old and I've never in my 284 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 9: life until tonight, heard anybody complain about the ceasefire except 285 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 9: as soon as I as soon as I heard the 286 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 9: good news, I went immediately the CNN, and of course 287 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 9: they were they were are they were still on the 288 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 9: war crimes thing, and uh and why didn't we get 289 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 9: our It's just amazing that they can get away with 290 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 9: that stuff. But yeah, so, uh, it's a ceasefire. You 291 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 9: said it just a couple of minutes ago. It gives 292 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 9: us time. Okay, time is good. And uh, sometimes when 293 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 9: the when the pressure is off, like a ceasefire, didn't 294 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 9: you know, the pressure is off and people can actually 295 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 9: sit down and think about both sides can sit down 296 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 9: and come up with some solutions. 297 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not optimistic that we will get We're not, 298 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 2: you know, I think we're dealing with with I don't 299 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: know who we're dealing with. I mean, I think that 300 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 2: a lot of the really bad guys, the people who 301 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: are at the top of the pyramid. Didn't you love 302 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: to see that. I guess some of the relatives of 303 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: uh Questam Solomoni were, Yeah, the guy that got killed 304 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 2: during the who is the head of the cuds forces? 305 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 9: That girl, that girl's in trouble, dam because those pictures 306 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 9: go back with her. She's in trouble back there. I 307 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 9: hate to see that. But listen, you're right, and there's 308 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 9: more of them over here. But I think that I 309 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 9: think that, you know, Uh, I remember a couple of 310 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 9: times over the last week or so, I've heard people say, well, 311 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 9: when the bomb stopped falling, that's when the people are 312 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 9: going to rise up. So maybe, okay, maybe, uh they've 313 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 9: got some kind of a force of resistance force in 314 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 9: in k Rand that's gonna uh, it's gonna come out 315 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 9: of the out of the cellars and do something. 316 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: And I hope so, I hope. 317 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, member Chelcu remember child chescue over there and wrote 318 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 9: what was that at chilches And uh he had his 319 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 9: thumb on everything, and by golly, they next thing, you know, 320 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 9: him and his wife are swinging so up. Yeah, it 321 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 9: can't happen. It can't happen, you know. And uh, but uh, 322 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 9: all in all, what what have we learned? Okay, we 323 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 9: learned that that uh it's a new age with this 324 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 9: air power and this high technology stuff. And my buddy 325 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 9: from Texas called me. He's still in the know a 326 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 9: little bit. He said, you know, the uh, the C 327 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 9: one thirties and the little birds that were stuck in 328 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 9: the sand out there. The guys, the guys didn't blow 329 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 9: them up themselves. 330 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 3: They just caught. 331 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 9: They just said, hey, bring that b one over here. 332 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 9: We need to take care of these planes here. We 333 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 9: can't leave them here, and it B one bomber took 334 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 9: them out. 335 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm not surprised. And it was great. 336 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 9: You talk about coordination, All this stuff has been so 337 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 9: well coordinated that now if there's thirteen fifteen thousand targets, 338 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 9: will figure there's at least thirty thousand planes most probably 339 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 9: evolved there. And we lost a few, you know, we 340 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 9: lost a few aircraft, but all enough, it's like it's 341 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 9: like going. 342 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: In the other thing to remember is that a lot 343 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: of what was done in Iran was done by Clifton 344 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 2: in Serbia and Bostnia back in the nineties, taking bridges out, 345 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: for example. I didn't hear any calls of war crimes 346 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 2: back in those days. I mean, it's like the members 347 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 2: of our delegation who was saying we need to invoke 348 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 2: the twenty fifth Amendment. Maybe maybe it would be great 349 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: if the members of our delegation before they I guess 350 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 2: they don't have a staff. Okay, because if they read 351 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 2: the twenty fifth Amendment, which I doubt think that they have, 352 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: I mean, let me let me just read it to 353 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: you here. Well, it's it's kind of long, but it says, uh, 354 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 2: do do do do do do do do? Whenever the 355 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: Vice President and a majority of either of the principal 356 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 2: officers of the executive Departments, which means the Cabinet or 357 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 2: such body as Congress may provide by law, transmit to 358 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: the President pro Tem of the Senate and Speaker of 359 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 2: the House of Representatives. They're written declaration that the President 360 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 2: is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. 361 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: The Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties 362 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: of the office as acting president. Well, you know, I mean, 363 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: are they dreaming or what I mean? Did they really 364 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: think that that the that the prompt Cabinet, you know, 365 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 2: being led by J. D. Vans, is going to say, 366 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 2: let's get this guy out of here. They weren't talking 367 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: about the twenty fifth Amendment when we had questions about 368 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 2: whether or not Joe Biden was compassmentus, were they? 369 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 9: That's right, hey, Dan. One thing that I couldn't figure 370 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 9: out for the last month. Okay, if they kept saying 371 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 9: that they got one thousand pounds of UH enriched uranium 372 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 9: is sixty percent, And I'm thinking, wait a minute, Okay, 373 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 9: so you need about ten or fifteen or twenty percent 374 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 9: max to do your UH to have your you know power, 375 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 9: your your electricity power. And they got they got they 376 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 9: got one thousand pounds of sixty percent. Now how did 377 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 9: they get that sixty percent? 378 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 2: They did it? Oh? No, they they did it secretive, secretively, secretly. Yes, 379 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: that's all. 380 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 9: Yes, they did under the noses, under the noses of 381 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 9: Obama's inspectors and the United Nations inspectors all over here. 382 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 9: We just which which. 383 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: Look over here, right right over here. There were nothing. 384 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: If nothing's over there, don't worry about that behind that 385 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: locked door. No, that's nothing. No, that's that's where we 386 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: came around. 387 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 9: They let them around, They let them around and let 388 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 9: them look in the doors that they wanted to let 389 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 9: in it. But you can't look behind that door. And 390 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 9: they were full fullish enough to say, okay, we won't 391 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 9: look behind that door. 392 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: That was that was all right, Bill, I got to 393 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: let you run because I got to get rolling here. Okay, man, 394 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 2: talk to you soon. Thank you much as always appreciated. 395 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: Let me go to Michelle in mustain. Michelle, you were 396 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: next tonights. I'd welcome. 397 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 10: Thank am, thank you, thank you very much for taking 398 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 10: my call. 399 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: Thank you for calling. 400 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 10: I just wanted to say. 401 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 11: A couple of things. 402 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 10: First of all, we shouldn't be questioning this president, or 403 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 10: any president for that matter, on any decisions that he's making. 404 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 10: The decisions that any president makes are difficult. 405 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 7: Decisions, to say the leads. 406 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 10: I can't imagine what they have to choose, you know, 407 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 10: what side they have to choose? 408 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I think I think protest. You know, look, 409 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: I think I think we have people have write the protest, 410 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: but they should protest. And certainly if you're a highly 411 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: if you're a high elected official, I don't care if 412 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: you're a Democrat or Republican. Just consider what we're talking 413 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: about here. We're not talking about we're in dating Canada, 414 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 2: dating Greenland. We're trying, or I shouldn't say we, the 415 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 2: Trump administration is trying in conjunction with the state of Israel. 416 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: UH and with Prime Minister in net Yahoo to keep 417 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Yes, it's a laudable 418 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: goal here. It's not like we've decided we're going to 419 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: bomb the Swiss Alps. 420 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 11: I mean, and it's not like we were planning that's 421 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 11: you know, oh well, let's just decide. 422 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 9: To bomb Iran. You know, this has been going on 423 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 9: for a long. 424 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 11: Time, and it's about times somebody stepped up to the 425 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 11: place and had dealt with it. 426 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 427 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 11: I mean, if I swear, if it wasn't for this president, 428 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 11: I see what would have happened. 429 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 9: I really do. 430 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 11: Dan, it gives the hell out happened when he's gone. 431 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but. 432 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 2: No, it's terrifying. I mean, you know, he went. You 433 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: got to give him credit. He went and he met 434 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: with the dictator in North Korea. Obviously that didn't quite 435 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 2: work out. But that little guy's been quiet for the 436 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: last year or so, hasn't he. I mean, you know, 437 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 2: I think that. But it's good to be a little unpredictable. 438 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: I mean, Joe Biden was very predictable. Barack Obama was 439 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: very predictable. 440 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 11: Well, well, anyway, that's all I wanted to say. And 441 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 11: just you know, one more thing, you know, instead of 442 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 11: protests and against a president or any president that's trying 443 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 11: to keep us protected, his country. 444 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 9: And his people, you know, the Americans protected. 445 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 11: Why are we protest? Why are people protesting about illegals 446 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 11: that are here illegally? 447 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 7: That's taxes for. 448 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 11: Everything on top of everything else. And it just reminds 449 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 11: me of the story about Caesar saying to the crowd, 450 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 11: who do you want me to to crucify Jesus or 451 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 11: a murderer? 452 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 2: Well, I think I don't think. Let's let's not throw that. 453 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: Let's not throw Caesar under the bus. I think that 454 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 2: was I think it was pilot. 455 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 11: Okay, let's after him. 456 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 9: I don't know. 457 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 2: No, Caesar was after I think. But but Caesar, Caesar's 458 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: hands were cleveland. 459 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 11: The choices, is what I mean. 460 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 2: Well, I hear you. 461 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 11: It would be the better choice. 462 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, and in this Easter season a very accurate metaphor. 463 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: That's that is for sure. In comparison, Michelle, you've got 464 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: to call more often. I enjoy I enjoy you approach. 465 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 466 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 9: Okay, thank you very much. 467 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 2: Have a great night. Okay, I'm gonna take a quick break. 468 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 2: Only one line six one seven, four, ten thirty. We 469 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: got Bob and Rhode Island, we got John and Pennsylvania, 470 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: got Matt and Florida and Steven New Hampshire. Ladies, don't 471 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: let the men dominate here one line, ladies six one, seven, two, five, 472 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: four ten. Look, this could have been a rougher night. Okay, 473 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 2: we're all I would hope that everybody could at least 474 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: take a deep breath of exhale. Maybe not. We'll see 475 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: coming back. 476 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: It's nice Eye with Dan Ray on w B Boston's 477 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: news radio. 478 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 2: It's an interesting night. Let's keep going here. Steve in 479 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: New Hampshire, Steve next on nights. 480 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 3: I go right ahead, Hey. 481 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: Dan, I'm doing great, Steve, thank you for your patience. 482 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: You're up. 483 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 3: It's a good thing for America with a ceasefire. However, 484 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 3: all this, the events over the past you know, several days, 485 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: I think this was a diversionary tactic on Trump's part 486 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: because he always says, you never telegraphed to the enemy 487 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 3: what your intentions are. So you noticed that he kept emphasizing, 488 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 3: you know, what he was going to do to that country. Well, 489 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: it was to get their attention. And I think that 490 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 3: the the humiliation of US rescuing that pilot. You know, 491 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: that was something that might have you know, made a 492 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: big difference over what's happened tonight too, because if they 493 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: had the pilot, you know, they would have something that 494 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 3: they could bargain with. Yeah, and they and that was 495 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 3: he was so lucky. I mean, I can't they I mean, 496 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 3: they went all out. I just can't believe how. You know, 497 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: that was incredible that. 498 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: The second well both of them, but the second guy 499 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 2: particularly badly injured, climbed up seven thousand feet and then 500 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: found it. 501 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: I don't think I could climb up seven thousand feet 502 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 3: in good health. It's like, tell me Mount Washington. So 503 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 3: the other thing is, you know, listening to you know, 504 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,479 Speaker 3: Senator Malarkey and Seth Moulton and all the others, and 505 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: they it's like they keep talking and talking and they 506 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 3: throw all this stuff out there. You know, it's like, 507 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: you know, Milton was in the military. You know, the 508 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 3: commander in chief is Trump. He has all the brief 509 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: he's he has all the intelligence. They don't have anything. 510 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 3: All they're doing is they just hate Trump. 511 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 7: Well, I. 512 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: Think Moulton's in a tough spot. He's decided to give 513 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: up his seat in Congress to take on an eighty 514 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: year old Ed Markey, and he realizes he's got to 515 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: get somehow to the left of Ed Markey amongst Democratic voters. 516 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: That's pretty hard to do. And then the other thing is, 517 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 3: you know, the real target. I mean, I believe that 518 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 3: the real key to this whole situation is carg Island. 519 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 3: I said it before, I'll say it again. You know, 520 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: he noticed that when we bombed them, you know, just 521 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 3: over the past day, you know, so we didn't go 522 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 3: after the refineries. We didn't do anything about that. I 523 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 3: think that we were trying to appease China BECAU because 524 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: China really depends on that low cost oil from Iran. 525 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: I hope they don't charge some kind of toll to 526 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: go through the strait of our moods. They were talking 527 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 3: about that a million dollars a vessel or something like that. 528 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: I think I think that would break the spirit of 529 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: the ceasefire, don't you. 530 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 3: I agree? But they want the money and their their 531 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 3: revenue is going right down to nothing. We have decimated that. 532 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 3: You know, if we had a way to do a 533 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 3: b DA, a bat Battley damage assessment, if we could 534 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 3: actually look at Iran. I believe that that country is 535 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 3: in really bad shape, really bad, and I think it's 536 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 3: going to take years until we and what's gonna happen 537 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: is we're gonna have to They're gonna have to wait 538 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 3: for a bleeding heart liberal you know, to take over 539 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 3: maybe in the next four or eight years on our part, 540 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 3: to you know, appease them too. I just think they 541 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: just want a change. They just can't deal with Trump 542 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: because he won't let them, you know, walk. 543 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: So we can never never forget that the goal here, 544 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: and the Trump administration has articulated it is to deny 545 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 2: Iran the ability to get and control nuclear weapons, and 546 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: that is critical. I you know, now we could if 547 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: we can get a differently set of leaders in there, 548 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: if we could turn a lot of these Arab states, 549 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: you know, towards Israel, which we've done with the Abraham Accords, 550 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: why can't it be done with Iran? 551 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 3: I agree. And the the other thing is, you know, 552 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 3: if we could if they cancel their nuclear program and 553 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: turn over the enriched uranium that your previous caller was 554 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 3: talking about one thousand pounds, maybe that would be a 555 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 3: good They don't have any good will, I mean they 556 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: it's death of America and death of Israel. 557 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 11: Uh. 558 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 3: The first country, the first place they're going to attack 559 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 3: if they ever got a nuclear bomb, would be Tel Aviv. 560 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: They would would, of course, no question. But remember this. 561 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: You know, we fought a war with North Vietnam. They 562 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: are now a trading partner. We fought a war with Germany. 563 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 2: We fought a war with Japan. They are now are 564 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: well our allies. Reportedly they wanted to stay out of this, 565 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: and I can I can understand that this was a 566 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: big risk that Trump took. So far, it seems to 567 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: be going. Okay, let's see what happens. Steve, let me 568 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 2: scoot here. I want to try to get at least 569 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: one more in before we got to get a breakaway 570 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 2: for the news. Thank you so much for calling. Please 571 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: continue to call the program. 572 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, sir, Thank you for a great night. 573 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 2: Thank you, my pleasure. John and Pennsylvania. John, want to 574 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: get you in here before the eleven o'clock news. Go 575 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: right ahead, John, all right. 576 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 3: Well. 577 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 12: In his little expletive leaden tweet on Eastern where he 578 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 12: did begin threatening war crimes, he said that they had 579 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 12: to open up the Straight of hor moves wasn't just 580 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,719 Speaker 12: a week prior. He said that the strait of our 581 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 12: her moves was not our concern, and that allies and 582 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 12: other nations that did ship through there really needed to 583 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 12: get together after we were done, and it was going 584 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 12: to be their concern. 585 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's accurate. That's accurate. And by the way, 586 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: I'll disagree with you on the war crimes, but I 587 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 2: let that go go ahead. I don't want to. 588 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 12: You can disagree, except we are signatory to the Geneva 589 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 12: Convention and accords, and those absolutely stay that you cannot 590 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 12: bomb a water desalination plant, let alone threaten to end 591 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 12: the civilization. 592 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 2: Well, first of first, first of all, when he talked 593 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 2: about ending the civilization, do you really think that he 594 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 2: meant that he was going to use a nuclear weapon 595 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 2: to take out ninety million people? Is that is that 596 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: what you thought he was going to say. 597 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 12: He was saying, uh, you're not even allowed to threaten 598 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 12: it under the accords that we are signatory too. Well, 599 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 12: But I but by the way, I do understand, I 600 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 12: do understand that he doesn't understand that. I also, by 601 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 12: the way, I. 602 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: Don't know how long you've been listening tonight, I could 603 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: ask you a question. Sure, how many Iranians have we 604 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 2: killed in this month of bombing everywhere? So many places? 605 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 2: What what is the number of Iranian deaths? 606 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 12: Do you I don't I don't know what the number 607 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 12: of deaths are. 608 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 2: Do you want to take? Well, what do you think 609 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 2: it should be? In terms of this horrific of you know, bombs, 610 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: We've dropped bombs everywhere. What do you think? 611 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 12: I don't think there. I don't think we have any 612 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 12: particularly reliable points. 613 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 2: Okay, well, let me ask you this. If I told 614 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 2: you this, if I told you, I know you don't 615 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 2: want to give me a number. But if I told 616 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: you that according to al Jazera, will you take al 617 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: Zazera as a source. 618 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think they'd be fairly reliable. 619 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: Good, thank you. And they are quoting the Iranian Health Ministry, 620 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: So the Iranian Health Ministry does not have, I think, 621 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 2: an incentive to downplay the number of deaths. If anything 622 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 2: would be the opposite. We have sunk. I think it's 623 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty two vessels. Now some of those 624 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 2: vessels might be small, little dinghies, but some of those 625 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 2: vessels are actually really navy ships. 626 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 12: And we we have bombed. 627 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 2: We have bombed all sorts of facilities, and in that 628 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 2: process we have killed a grand total of two thousand, 629 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 2: according to Iranian Health, two thousand and seventy six Iranians. 630 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 2: That includes like the fifty four that we whacked that 631 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 2: first morning at the meeting. There's been a lot of 632 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 2: precision bombing here, and we did. We did hit that school, 633 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 2: which killed I think it was about seventy five young girls, 634 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 2: which is a tragedy. But of course I wish that 635 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 2: the Iranian government hadn't built the school next or put 636 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 2: in IRG headquarters next to the school that you know. 637 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 2: I don't think we hit that school intentionally if we 638 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 2: weren't trying to run up. 639 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 12: I don't believe so either. 640 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you very much. Well, that's great that 641 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 2: we get some agreement there all of the things. I 642 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 2: think we've been philly discreet in what we've hit so far. 643 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: And you know what. 644 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 12: To do with what does that have to do with 645 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 12: the veracity of what I just said and the accuracy 646 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 12: of what I just said. 647 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 2: Which which which accuracy my taking? 648 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 12: Okay, it is against Okay, we were sanatory to the 649 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 12: Geneva Accords, correct, Okay, his statements, his little geriatric temper 650 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 12: tantrum where he was threatening desalination plants and civilian infrastructure, 651 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 12: and then the whole threat to in civilization. 652 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, those. 653 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 12: Very statements, aside from being completely unworthy in the way 654 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 12: he expressed them, of the. 655 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 2: US President, Yeah, I think he was trying to get 656 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 2: their attention. I think it was. I think he was, 657 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 2: and I think he did get their attention. 658 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 12: That he had to say, he had to say, asked, 659 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 12: couldn't even spell that correctly. 660 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 2: I think it was usually the New York Dictionary to 661 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 2: sell it. I will you know what my Virginias went 662 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 2: to were indented on that one. 663 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 12: If he wants to if he wants to mock their 664 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 12: religion by saying, you know, uh, someone could let them 665 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 12: know that they speak farcie on Arabic, so it would 666 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 12: be uh, praise be Coda, not praise be Allah. Allah 667 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 12: is Arabic for God, Coda is Farsi for God. They're Persians, 668 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 12: not Arabic. 669 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 2: But I think most Americans understand that when someone does 670 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 2: something uh and uh and is going ala aliak ali 671 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 2: bach akbar, and when they talk about Allah, I understand 672 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 2: they speak Farsi I did not know what the word 673 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 2: for God was in FARSI thank you for illuminating that 674 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 2: for me. I don't think most Americans know that either, John, 675 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 2: I gotta go. I think you made a bunch of 676 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 2: interesting points. Was Clinton guilty of war crimes in Serbia 677 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 2: and Bosnia? And your opinion in the in the late 678 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 2: seven in the late nineties. 679 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 12: Not so long as the military. Okay, you can attack bridges, 680 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 12: for example, there are places in that can are dull use, 681 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 12: that can be attacked. All sorts of regulations regarding what 682 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 12: you can and cannot do, according to the Geneva Corps. 683 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 2: Do me a favorite. Once he does it, then then 684 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 2: we'll talk about it. 685 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,959 Speaker 12: Okay, Yeah, it's it's uh, it's considered a violation even 686 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:22,919 Speaker 12: the threatening right. 687 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 2: As I say, again, you know Iran is you know, John, 688 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 2: let me tell you maybe maybe we should have gotten 689 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 2: Roosevelt for bombing Dresden. Did we carpet bomb Bresdent Dresden? 690 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 2: After World War Two? There's there's a lot of stuff 691 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 2: that goes on in war that's pretty ugly, John, Okay, 692 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 2: including including you know, everything that this this other government 693 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 2: has done. They just killed anywhere from thirty two to 694 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 2: forty five thousand of their own citizens. I got to 695 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 2: run John up against it. I always enjoy your calls 696 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 2: thanke Care. Thank you. Here comes to news