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Speaker 1: Don't want.

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Speaker 2: This is Scott Sloan show on seven hundred WLWED the

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Speaker 2: City of Cincinnati. He set a lawsuit for almost a

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Speaker 2: million and a half dollars with the family of Condavier Hicks.

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Speaker 2: Mister Hicks was shot and killed by police at his

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Speaker 2: North Side apartment what sixteen years ago? Twenty fifteen, almost

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Speaker 2: sixteen years ago, and in light of a number of

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Speaker 2: settlements from only over eight million dollars for the Rodney

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Speaker 2: King protesters to discussions over paying Ryan Hinton's family, the

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Speaker 2: question is whether the payouts are better than fighting this

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Speaker 2: in court. And before I get to the attorney represent

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Speaker 2: the Hicks family, let me refresh the elements of Kwandaver Hicks,

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Speaker 2: because I had to go back and look some stuff

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Speaker 2: up because it's been so long ago, ten eleven years

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Speaker 2: long time. So he's twenty two years old at the time.

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Speaker 2: And there was a call for service at nine one

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Speaker 2: one for aggravated menacing, which aggravated means the use of

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Speaker 2: a weapon in this case of firearm, and so they

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Speaker 2: had a duty to respond in this case, they make

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Speaker 2: the run, they enter the apartment building or the apartment

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Speaker 2: on Chase Avenue, Northside on this call because he had

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Speaker 2: threatened to kill a couple accused that they accused of

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Speaker 2: him sealing from their home. Officers entered the building through

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Speaker 2: an unlocked side door, did not have a warrant the

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Speaker 2: building is then the question is whether that's a multi

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Speaker 2: unit dwelling or just a single family. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: that in a second with the attorney. But when the

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Speaker 2: officers reached and went inside and reached Hicks's door, he

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Speaker 2: emerged holding a twenty two caliber rifle appointed it at

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Speaker 2: one of the officers. Another officer, think of the three

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Speaker 2: or four officer on the scene, grabbed the barrel and

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Speaker 2: in this case officer Door Scott fired the deadly one shot,

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Speaker 2: hitting him in the chest. He died at the scene.

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Speaker 2: And because this was well twenty fifteen, it wasn't I

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Speaker 2: believe a year later when CPD officers were issued body cameras,

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Speaker 2: so we don't even have body camera footage. So on

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Speaker 2: that with that rather long setup is Attorney Rob Lindaman,

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Speaker 2: attorney for the Hicks family.

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Speaker 3: Rob, welcome, good morning, how are you come on?

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Speaker 4: Scott?

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Speaker 5: Thank you?

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Speaker 3: And I hope I got the details of it right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, ten, ten eleven years a long

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Speaker 2: time sometimes you know, you lose track of what the

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Speaker 2: facts actually were.

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Speaker 3: But I think generally that was a right.

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Speaker 5: That is, that was all that was all generally act good.

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Speaker 3: I want to reemphasize that. Yeah, so you had called.

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Speaker 2: I was talking about this yesterday and talking about city

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Speaker 2: settling rather than litigating. And I think that's valid for

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Speaker 2: taxpayers going more hand at eight million dollars at a time,

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Speaker 2: and what's the city law department exists?

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Speaker 3: I think that's a reasonable argument.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, you had called in the

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Speaker 2: end of the segment yesterday, I like about nine to

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Speaker 2: fifty and unfortunately out other stuff and news and all that,

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Speaker 2: as you know, and I wanted to get you back

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Speaker 2: on because I thought the conversation, and as brief as

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Speaker 2: it was, was fascinating because you represent the family and

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Speaker 2: above all else, Rob, I didn't get a chance to

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Speaker 2: ask you yesterday.

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Speaker 3: But is the family happy with the settlement?

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Speaker 5: Let's put it this way. The family is satisfied with

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Speaker 5: the settlement. This is a situation where there would there

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Speaker 5: would be no situation in which the family would feel

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Speaker 5: they were justly compensated for the loss of the sign,

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Speaker 5: the loss of a brother. But the main thing. Or

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Speaker 5: let's put it this way. A principal objective was to

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Speaker 5: obtain a fayre, a thorough and an independent investigation, because

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Speaker 5: I have to tell you that when I met Kwan

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Speaker 5: Davier's mother, she really just wanted to know what happened.

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Speaker 5: As you said, this is twenty fifteen. The Cincinnati Police

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Speaker 5: Department quite simply had not been forthright with her. They

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Speaker 5: they were not. The legal questions that opposed here are

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Speaker 5: really questions that are fundamental under the US Constitution, which

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Speaker 5: is a person safe from the government inside their own home.

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Speaker 5: Does a person have a basic right to defend themselves

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Speaker 2: Let me interrupt, just say a rob because so far

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Speaker 2: and this went to the Sixth District Court. Pellet courts

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Speaker 2: and like courts consistently found the use of deadly force

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Speaker 3: A pellic courts.

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Speaker 2: Found legitimate questions about what you're talking about, whether the

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Speaker 2: warrantless entry was constitutional.

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Speaker 3: Get that in a second.

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Speaker 2: But the Sixth Circuit Court said and saw evidence that

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Speaker 2: officers should have known they were entering a private residence,

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Speaker 2: not a commoner. And that's that's a hang up here.

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Speaker 2: And so the city maintains the shooting itself was justified,

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Speaker 2: and everyone agrees on the use of deadly force being appropriate.

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Speaker 2: So help me understand if it was justified, why is

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Speaker 2: the city paying one point four five million.

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Speaker 5: Well, you you're onto a very very subtle issue of

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Speaker 5: law here, and you and but you're broadly right, but

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Speaker 5: let me have let me add some color to that.

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Speaker 5: The first call. Yes, the case has been the case

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Speaker 5: has been before. We've been litigating the case for about

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Speaker 5: for almost ten years. Yeah, we'll get back to that

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Speaker 5: about whether whether whether the city just rolled over easily

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Speaker 5: settled on this. I'll take issues with that, okay. But

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Speaker 5: so the the city asserted qualified in news and that

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Speaker 5: the city asserted that these officers are immune. And the

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Speaker 5: Sixth Circuit at the time held that in the in

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Speaker 5: the light of where there is evidence that that a

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Speaker 5: that that quandavior had a gun, that that posed reasonable

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Speaker 5: But but there's a but there's a bigger but there's

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Speaker 5: a broader question, which is what are all the circumstances here?

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Speaker 5: And the Supreme Court since the time, actually since the

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Speaker 5: time of those original rulings, it has has ruled and

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Speaker 5: has held that in cases like this, what the what

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Speaker 5: what the court needs to look at is the totality

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Speaker 5: of the circumstances and in that use of force. And

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Speaker 5: that can include that can include think conduct that the

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Speaker 5: which which may make it reasonable or may not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so they and we talked about yesterday, Rob Lineman.

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Speaker 2: The argument is this, so, as I understand from the narrative, here,

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Speaker 2: they get this nine one one call, so they have

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Speaker 2: a duty to act. It's a nine one as well

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Speaker 2: asn't just you know, a sneak and peak a no

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Speaker 2: knock warrant. It was a call for service. Uh so

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Speaker 2: a legitimate client neighbors said, hey, this guy pointed a

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Speaker 2: come in now. And so the entrances I understand it was.

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Speaker 2: It's like a sight enth's kind of removed from the street.

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Speaker 2: It lacked multiple name plates and apartment numbers. I mean

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Speaker 2: of privacy curtains and security bars. It looked like a

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Speaker 2: it was a The officer thought it was a common era.

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Speaker 2: If I saw the video last night and Hammrick did

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Speaker 2: of see there's a stairwell. He had an upstairs atic

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Speaker 2: time they read it as a common area, which would

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Speaker 2: allow them a little bit of leeway as far as

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Speaker 2: entering entering the structure, not inside a house, but a

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Speaker 3: And that's really the crux and the debate of the case.

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Speaker 5: Correct, that's that's again very you've you've you've done your

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Speaker 5: homework today, that's those are all those are all accurate. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: the issue really was is this, if this were an

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Speaker 5: up that way. If this were an apartment building and

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Speaker 5: then a police officer could could have the right to

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Speaker 5: or could could lawfully enter there. Let's put it that way.

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Speaker 5: This the circumstances here though, if you you know, if

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Speaker 5: that is the subject. It just it looked like a

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Speaker 5: house from the front rightly. And so they went to

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Speaker 5: the door. They went to the side door, and they

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Speaker 5: knocked on the They knocked on the door, knocked one,

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Speaker 5: no answer at the time of the second knock. When

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Speaker 5: when when she knocked the second time, the door came

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Speaker 5: just slightly ajar And that is a although there was

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Speaker 5: a lock on that door, one of the condavior's girlfriend

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Speaker 4: But but but yeah, so then so the question the

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Speaker 4: property that they ended up entering is you know, it's

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Speaker 4: effectively a house. When you walk into this place, you

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Speaker 5: There's a doorway that there's a there's a bedroom behind

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Speaker 5: only one bedroom. Excuse me, there's only one bathroom. There's

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Speaker 5: what the courts of appeals ended up saying in each

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Speaker 5: there's no lock in between these doors once you're inside

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Speaker 5: that there was no door. There was no you know,

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Speaker 5: for example, the door that that they that they would

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Speaker 5: walk up to go to Fondiaver's room, it just didn't

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Speaker 5: that was clearly that was clearly living space. Now and

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Speaker 5: I should say all these all the facts, all the

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Speaker 6: This case, all.

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Speaker 5: The fact that the that the court was, that the

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Speaker 5: relied on were ones that were based on documentary, just

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Speaker 5: pictures of the pictures of the play AffA Davis, from

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Speaker 5: people who had been there, who knew that, who knew

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Speaker 2: Okay, Rob, let me deject because I'll be honest with you,

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Speaker 2: I feel even more strongly that the city should have settled.

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Speaker 2: Let's I know you' vehemently disagree. But so the expectation

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Speaker 2: is you get a nine to one one call. They're

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Speaker 2: making a service run. There's a threat of an individual,

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Speaker 2: and that's not obviously that's not being challenged, the fact

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Speaker 2: that Kwondevra Ticks had a gun, had a long gun.

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Speaker 3: They knock on the door, the door opens.

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Speaker 2: It's not like the officers had time to go, wow,

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Speaker 2: is this a private residence as an apartment?

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Speaker 3: And I don't know the nine one call.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the neighbors said, yeah, this guy lives in an

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Speaker 2: As you know, I was talking about this yesterday, and

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Speaker 2: that we're talking about in these situations here locally in Cincinnati.

436
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 2: If you're out there protesting and you get locked up

437
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 2: and it's a hot summer day, and you go, well,

438
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 2: wait a minute, I forgot to bring my medication with me.

439
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I don't have any bottle of water.

440
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I got to There's eight hundred of

441
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 2: us and we're held in a sally part waiting to

442
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 2: be processed.

443
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 3: No system is set up to do that.

444
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 2: And I know lawyers would argue that, but that's the

445
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 2: nature of lawyers is to try and argue and get money,

446
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 2: and they do and that's how our system works. Fine,

447
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 2: I'm good with that, but you know, careful what you

448
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 2: wish for. You might just get it, okay, if you

449
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 2: really are that, if you're trying to be I guess

450
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 2: maybe Martin Luther King Junior incarnate with MLK Day coming up.

451
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 2: I mean, he suffered tremendously for what he believed in

452
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 2: but did it peacefully and marched, and you know, we

453
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 2: saw he changed history for sure. But I just I

454
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 2: wonder if he's kind of giving you some side eye

455
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 2: right now, going, oh my god, you didn't have a

456
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 2: bottle of water. And so now we're going to file

457
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 2: a lawsuit against the city of Cincinnata. In the case

458
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 2: of Minnesota's like, Okay, we think it's unjust, and we're

459
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: going to march in protest. But when you start attacking

460
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: police officers, no good is going to come out of that.

461
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 2: And then it just gets toy out crowd more while

462
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: it's like you're entitled to be able to do whatever

463
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 2: the hell you want when there's a cop there, and

464
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 2: that's not how it should work. But I mentioned the

465
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,679
Speaker 2: eight million dollar settlement. I mentioned what's going on with

466
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 2: Ryan Hinton and the allegations by Ken Kober the FOP

467
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 2: that the city's going to wind up giving this family

468
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 2: some money even though the officers were completely justified in

469
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 2: shooting Ryan Hinton. Now in this case, we're talking about

470
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 2: the late this one, so I'm not kind of lumped

471
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: them together. Yesterday Kwandavia Hicks shot and killed by police

472
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 2: in this North Side apartment in twenty fifteen, long time ago,

473
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 2: so it's hard to go back.

474
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 3: But in the case that Rob.

475
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 2: Lindeman and I enjoyed having him on the show this morning,

476
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 2: was outlining is I'm even more set in my ways

477
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: about going It seemed like it was. The entry was

478
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 2: just No one is disputing the fact that officers were

479
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 2: justified in shooting and killing Kwandevera Hicks shooting him was

480
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 2: justified every court so upheld that. But the argument he

481
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 2: had was that, Okay, it's kind of like a side

482
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 2: door apartment and the door was open and they walked

483
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 2: in because they had a complaint. The CONDEVI Hicks threatened

484
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 2: the lives of neighbors with a gun. And so when

485
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: I hear that, I go, that's a clear and present danger.

486
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 3: Right.

487
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the wrong term to use here legally, but

488
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: I'm not an attorney, and I hear that and go,

489
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 2: is it reasonable if you're in the shoes of the cop. Okay,

490
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: I get a call there's a guy with a gun.

491
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: All right, where's he live? We're kind of sure it's

492
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: this house over here. Okay, we think this is the house.

493
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: It's dark, it's eleven thirty at night. He god to

494
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: go to the side entrance and the door. They knock

495
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 2: on the door and the door swings open. It was unlocked. Okay,

496
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 2: we think that the suspect is in here based on

497
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 2: the information that we have, and it looks like okay,

498
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: there's some stairs and there's a door upstairs, and you know,

499
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 2: maybe it looks like an apartment. I mean, I guess

500
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: you're expecting with hindsight being what it is, that officers

501
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 2: at eleven thirty at night where they radio run a

502
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 2: dispatch call for them for a call for service, that

503
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 2: there's an individual possibly with a gun. We know he

504
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: has access to firearms, so we're guarded, we're cautions. So

505
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: here a threat neighbors. Are we going to stop a

506
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: possible homicide or let's play said a mass shooting could

507
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 2: be we don't know. All right, doors open, we walk in. Yeah,

508
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: we didn't announce ourselves because there may be somebody with

509
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: a gun and maybe we wants to take a look here.

510
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 2: And we also think that it's a common area. Like

511
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: for example, if you go ino a place I don't

512
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: know and entrance of any building and it's a common area,

513
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: you know, typically you're not gonna identify yourself because you

514
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: think it's a common area. I think it's just the

515
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 2: fact of the matter is that you know, we can

516
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: go back in time and look at it, and the

517
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 2: cops are like, well, you should have known it. Well,

518
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: how would you know that? Have you had multiple calls

519
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 2: as residents? Do you need to go look on the

520
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: auditor's site to see just here? Do you need to

521
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: call a realtor the landlord to be No, because there's

522
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: someone with a gun in there? Just doesn't seem to

523
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: me to be it seems reasonable for the officers did

524
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 2: what they did.

525
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: I guess if fire and.

526
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 2: A jury, and obviously this didn't come to a jury,

527
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: but if fireing a jury, I would look at it

528
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: that way, going yeah, And I would think most jurors

529
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 2: would probably go yeah. And you know, blanket and I

530
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 2: considering the circumstances, dead and night, guy with a gun.

531
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: The door was opened, We walked in unannounced, and then

532
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: we look upstairs and he points the gun down at us. Okay,

533
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: maybe and I could see condever Hicks side of it.

534
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: Maybe he didn't think the police are coming.

535
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 7: All.

536
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 2: I would say, if you threaten some with a gun

537
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: and somebody is knocking at your door. Do you think

538
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 2: it's someone there to shoot you? It's the neighbor's shooting you. Possibly,

539
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: But of course when you open the door and it's

540
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: cops at that moment, maybe you go my, you know,

541
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 2: because there was a struggle for the gun. Even the

542
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: mom said, well, why didn't they just drag him out

543
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 2: of the head they grabbed the gun. They well, why

544
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 2: didn't they drag him out? Well, because it's a gun,

545
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: and that escalas thing too while we're going to defend

546
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 2: ourselves with our with our weapons. But I guess the

547
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 2: question would be, why wouldn't Quandevera Hicks just simply have

548
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: surrendered at that point. It's not like he, you know,

549
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 2: pointed the gun through the door, around the door and

550
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: blindly shot because he thought there's intruders. It's kind of

551
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: like what happened in with Brandon Taylor in Louisville, right

552
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: the officers shot into a dark building. She and she thought, okay,

553
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 2: maybe it's a home invasion. I didn't know their police officer,

554
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 2: police detectives that that's legitimate in this case, Like you

555
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: saw that their uniform three police three or four uniformed

556
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: police officers said, why wouldn't you stop doing what you're doing.

557
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: And so you know, based on that, I look at it,

558
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 2: go wow. I think after that conversation, I'm even more

559
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: inclined to think the cops are right here and then

560
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 2: question why we settled this whole thing. And that's the

561
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: crux of this is I put out yesterday they have

562
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: like an eight nine million dollar budget of the law

563
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: Department of Cincinnati does And you know, if you have

564
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: lawyers on staff, you're already paying for this kind of

565
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: like a lawyer and retainer. I'm already the meeters already run,

566
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: I'm already paying I might as well. I might as

567
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: well use you I got on. Do you see it

568
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 2: the cops way or do you see it on the

569
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: Hicks family side of thing? Five one, three, seven, four,

570
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: nine seven eight, hund the big one. It's talked back

571
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 2: on the iHeart radio app but it and to me,

572
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: it's just like, okay, well it's gone on for ten

573
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: years and maybe you know, this is a bad example

574
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: for me to throw in there as far as what's

575
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: happening with Ryan Hinton and maybe paying that family off

576
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 2: or and we should totally fight that one. The eight

577
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: million dollars for the Cincinnati protesters. I don't know what

578
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 2: the hell we're thinking there, and this one kind of

579
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: got lumped in, and maybe there's a little different nuance

580
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: with this one, but I don't know. I tend to

581
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: look at it going yeah, I could see in the

582
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: blink of an eye, CoP's getting it right, and the

583
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: use of force was justified. On top of this, this

584
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: seems even less of a standard for them, And I

585
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: think it's a legitimate question in Cincinnati where you ask,

586
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: all right, if we keep doing this and just paying

587
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: people off, even though it was ten years, are we

588
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: just encouraging moreless behavior. And I'm probably the answer would

589
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: be yes, I understand this. This went on a long

590
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 2: long time, ten years. And even the cop in this case,

591
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 2: the female cop that shot, she's since retired. And so

592
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: now you're playing this game where you know, witnesses don't

593
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: remember stuff, the cops are tired it. You know how

594
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: long we're going to drag this thing out? Maybe just

595
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: said okay, in this case, we write a check for

596
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 2: a million and a half and you know, we call

597
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: it a day. No assumption of guilt whatsoever, but we

598
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: just settled and that's it. I don't know, maybe maybe anyway,

599
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,239
Speaker 2: I'll maybe get some calls in this one and your

600
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 2: thoughts and if you heard this yesterday, because he called

601
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: late yesterday. I wanted to give him a little bit

602
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: more time to discuss that because I think it's just

603
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 2: such a damn interesting case and how this whole thing

604
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: played out, because it wasn't about whether the use of

605
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: force was justified, because it was it was whether or

606
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 2: not the cops should have walked into that building. And

607
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: you have a right in your own home to protect

608
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 2: yourself from intruders, and if cop, you have to have

609
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 2: a warrant for search. But I don't know this one

610
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: is different because you had a legitimate threat that was

611
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: happening at that particular moment, and police have a dudey

612
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: to respond to a search warrant if there's a probable call,

613
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: right the probable cause of him having a gun and

614
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: threatening people, and we've got to make sure that he

615
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: doesn't do that to me. That kind of out weighs

616
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: what we're talking about here. But a million and a

617
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: half dollars or are a budget not that much money?

618
00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 2: I will say, we just keep doing this and doing

619
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: and those are peers that we keep settling and settling

620
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: and what we're just gonna give everybody money now that

621
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: has an issue with us.

622
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: I don't understand anyway.

623
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: We'll get more of that quick time out and more

624
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: to follow here Scott's Loland back and forth seven hundred ww.

625
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: You know who should never drove a car again? Cam

626
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 2: Taylor Britt. I remember was it on the sixth? I

627
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: think whatever it was that he was out driving around

628
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: and you know, flying up and down the streets and

629
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: stuff like outside of twice or And now he is

630
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: back in the news because video just came out back

631
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: in November on Scott Street and Covington about three o'clock,

632
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: three thirty in the morning on November twelfth, Cam Taylor

633
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: Britt was a passenger in a car that accelerated a

634
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: high rate of speed and flipped over on Scott Street

635
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: and we're undo a parked Chevy and flipped over and

636
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: everything was okay. Now the very next day of the

637
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: next game, there's a game the next day. He was

638
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: the end of the season enng injury. One would have

639
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: to think, is there a relationship between that accident, the

640
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: rollover action he was in the night before, and the

641
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: injury that happened on game day. If that's the case,

642
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: some of the Bengals looking to avoid in that contract.

643
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: But this is a dude who pled guilty on the

644
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: sixth of January to driving with restricted license reckless driving,

645
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: and this one was a passenger and someone driving recklessly.

646
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: See a pattern here, I certainly do.

647
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: I do.

648
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: There's some people it's just like you should not be

649
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: driving anymore.

650
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: We're good, We're good.

651
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Speaker 2: Let me get to Columbus and Sherry on the Scotsland

652
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Speaker 2: Show on seven hundred w W how's everything on the

653
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Speaker 2: sea bus?

654
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Speaker 1: Well, we're getting poorer and poorer here. They're forcing us

655
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Speaker 1: to do a lot of stuff as tax payers, and

656
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: my property taxes never go down because they're funding a

657
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: very I would call Marxist agenda agenda. And our mayor

658
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: is of Shaker and they're the Shakers are socialists.

659
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, he was very socialists.

660
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Speaker 2: But anyway, well, at the same time, I mean, it's

661
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: also what the voters want to intend to be a

662
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: little bit more progressive in Columbus.

663
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Speaker 3: In Cincinnati, I.

664
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Speaker 5: Had not I mean, I had no idea.

665
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: There was no one here that every single person believed

666
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: in this. I mean, it's terrible.

667
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: What do you think about what do you think about

668
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: paying off the paying off in this case I was

669
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: talking about quit the case I was talking about here

670
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati, Quandavior Hicks, but the other ones, and I'm

671
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: sure you guys have a pattern too. It's just like

672
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: we just keep paying people off, and you know there

673
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: are times you're gonna have to settle and then it's

674
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: it's right in just maybe this case it is because

675
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: it's gone on for ten years. But the pattern is like, well,

676
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: it's not our money, We'll just continue to give it out.

677
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: Yes, was that a nine to one one call?

678
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 5: I didn't Yeah, somebody had.

679
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: Called a neighbor.

680
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: He had threatened, So I guess neighbors. And the neighbors

681
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: had something stolen and they either suspected or saw Hicks

682
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: do it, and they said, hey, you know what we

683
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: saw you still in it. So he threatened them with

684
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: a gun and then then they called nine one one.

685
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's a nine one one call, I'm sorry,

686
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: with a deadly weapon, they have time to get a

687
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: search warrant. This case cannot this can't this can't be.

688
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: This cannot stand. If they're gonna if they're gonna win, right,

689
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: because you don't have time to get a search warrant.

690
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: You've got to respond to an emergency. So I just

691
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that they should be paid now, Absolutely not.

692
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thank you.

693
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: I appreciate you listening up in the Columbus being well sherey,

694
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Speaker 2: thanks for checking in this morning.

695
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Speaker 3: Five one three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand. That's awesome.

696
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Speaker 3: Uh we it's not like you know, cops don't make mistakes.

697
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Speaker 2: I admit that we've seen plenty of that happen in

698
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: the past, right, and we will be waiting for the

699
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: foreseeable future about what's happening with icy just in this country,

700
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: particularly in Minnesota, whether that's just what we want that

701
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: we'll decide that there's voters, right, I mean, how far,

702
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: what how far do we want government agents to go,

703
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: especially federal government agents. It's a legitimate question now, attacking

704
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: police officers with shovels and cars, you're gonna you know again,

705
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: you keep doing stuff like that and thinking that's somehow

706
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: justified to physically attack law enforcement officers. You're gonna see

707
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: more people shot. You can't do that. That's not how

708
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: it works, not how it works at all. But I'm

709
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: sure I know on Minnesota. I wonder if the fedsil

710
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: went up settling some of these cases that I guess

711
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: I probably are going to get litigated sivil. I'm sure

712
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: the case of the woman who was killed, a woman

713
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: who shot that started this whole thing's gonna for sure,

714
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Speaker 2: Van Delia, Steve, you're on the Scott'sland shoke.

715
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Speaker 3: Morning, Good morning Scott. How you doing. I'm doing well,

716
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: trying to stay warm. How about you.

717
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 9: Trying to stay warm myself?

718
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: I hear you.

719
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Speaker 9: In regards to the protests or to the payments that

720
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 9: the city has made out, particularly the protesters, since this

721
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 9: was public money, I mean in the Hicks in the

722
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Speaker 9: hitting cases, we know where the money is going. Has

723
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 9: there ever been a list published as to where these

724
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 9: protesters where those checks are being sent to, because I

725
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 9: think it'd be very interesting to find out whether these

726
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 9: are people with Ohio address or whether these are people

727
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 9: with California, or Illinois or Massachusetts address.

728
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: I saw the list, and there are a number of

729
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: them from out of state, and spend such a long

730
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: time and I didn't have time to look it up.

731
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Speaker 3: I apologize.

732
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 2: I know there were Cincinnatians on there, but a remarkable

733
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: number of people who are from not the Cincinnati right now.

734
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: You could have people from the suburbs and elsewhere, and

735
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 2: you certainly have every right to go somewhere and protest

736
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: if you so wish. But I think I can read

737
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: between logic questioners. Are these people just showing up to

738
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: every protest? And if so, is this how they make

739
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: their money? Are they getting funded from somewhere else? And

740
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: there's a distinct possibility that that may be occurring. But

741
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: you know, I think that gets overblown. I think a

742
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: lot of this is just people who are looking for

743
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: something to be angry. I didn't I've never been out

744
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: set where I would travel to another city to protest something.

745
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: I've not gotten to that point yet. How about you, Well, no,

746
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 3: I would not do that either.

747
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 9: But I also think another interesting point in I think

748
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 9: we've established the fact that there are professional protesters and

749
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 9: they are being paid. I think it would be very

750
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 9: interesting to find out if they're having taxes deduct from

751
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 9: them payments, because I'm sure they exceed the six hundred

752
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 9: dollars limit, and it would be interesting as to who

753
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 9: is ever paying them, whether they're paying the proper taxes.

754
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if we'll ever get that answer, honestly,

755
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: simply because I mean, that's just gonna take a lot

756
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: of work to find out. I don't know sure it is.

757
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: It might be like, you know, the issue, well, voter

758
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: fraud out there. Then they wind up after the election

759
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 2: auction stolen voter fraud and you know your own FBI,

760
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: and they investigate and find out, Okay, there's a handful,

761
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: now there's two or three of four. It's not going

762
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: to swing an election. So I think there's a lot

763
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: of hyperbole in that whole thing as well too, But nonetheless,

764
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: it is what it is, as they say, And I

765
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: think we've got to hold, especially for Cincinnatian and your

766
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: tax payers, like can you be more responsible and not

767
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: pay all this money out just to settle things. It

768
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: would be interesting to see if they actually litigated something

769
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: for once and see how that plays out.

770
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: What do you say?

771
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 2: Got a news update in momentarily here it's a Scott

772
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: Sloan show on the Home of the Red seven hundred WLW.

773
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: Since nat.

774
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: What's up Scott's Sloan back on seven hundred WLW. So

775
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 2: when the country is in strife and turmoil, you try

776
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 2: different things. Although I don't know if socialism is really

777
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 2: all that different a thing, but you know, generations who

778
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: didn't see the Cold War stuff like that, see what

779
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: that kind of oppression does, want to try it. And

780
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: so we have ushered in the age of Zora and

781
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: Mundami of New York City, the improbable mayor of the

782
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: largest city in the United States, and the thirty four

783
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: year old self proclaimed democratic socialists signing executive orders left

784
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: and he's been in office a few days. Yeah, there's

785
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: some stuff universal child care for two year olds, but

786
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 2: also he got rid of a whole bunch of fees

787
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: and procedures for small business. Which is interesting on this

788
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: is that Ken jarardin from a Manhattan institute. Welcome back, Ken,

789
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 2: how are you forty?

790
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 6: Good view with you?

791
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: He just moved into Gracie Mansions. He's had to manation

792
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: New York City a few days ago. As I mentioned

793
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: a couple of things, the team contradictory at times from

794
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 2: an avowed socialist.

795
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 3: But what are we expecting? And not only that, are

796
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: we just.

797
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: Going to see this big socialist wave across the country

798
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: from coast to coast.

799
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 10: I'd actually pushed back a little bit and I'd say

800
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 10: he's kind of a lagging indicator, that is him winning

801
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 10: the primary. That was a kind of a wake up

802
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 10: call to folks to say, let's zoom out and look

803
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 10: and just see where socialist proposals have already taken route

804
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 10: something in them. Donnie had spent five years in the

805
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 10: state of Emily, in Albany, and so that was my

806
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 10: first stop. And I looked there and I reviewed. There

807
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 10: are a number of socialist proposals, some of which have

808
00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 10: pretty widespread political support, but some other big ones also predate.

809
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 6: Him as an assemblement.

810
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 10: And I thought this was a good opportunity to take

811
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 10: a look at the full, the full buffet of stuff

812
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 10: that people in the socialist persuasion want.

813
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 3: Sure I bring that.

814
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: Up, as I said, Okay, you could see because among

815
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: younger people, younger people love socialists. You go to a

816
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: college campus, you know you've got Socialism is the greatest thing.

817
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: We just got to do the right kind.

818
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: Socialism is a failed experiment, but we just we haven't

819
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 2: fully done socialism yet. And that's always the excuse, right

820
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: is why socialism fails. And of course there's a host

821
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: of other reasons. There's you know, central planning can't allocate

822
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: resources effectively and you get rid of competition, and it

823
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: drives incentivization and a whole bunch of things. And we

824
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 2: can get into why socialism is bad as as a

825
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: as a political philosophy.

826
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: But young people see because yeah, I look at young

827
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: people to America.

828
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: It's New York City or Cincinnati, and hey, they're worried

829
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: about jobs, they worried about housing, they worried about health care.

830
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: Healthcare has a mass. Both Republicans Democrats created this problem

831
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: and no one has a solution to fixing it other

832
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: than more subsidies that we continue to borrow money to

833
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: give subsided to be people to make it afford it's

834
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: not affordable. We're just taking money from one pile and

835
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 2: moving it somewhere else. You worry about. You know, people

836
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 2: haven't worked two or three or more jobs just to

837
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: keep their nose above water. And a lot of people

838
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: can't do that. Housing is getting unrealistically unexpensive. So there's

839
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: like a grossola of young people feel like they're painted

840
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: in a corner right now. And that is always the

841
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: catalyst or something like this coming along.

842
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 10: Well, let's remember everybody grows up in not just socialism,

843
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 10: but actually communism to a certain extent, that's where your

844
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,479
Speaker 10: family is, like I have I have communism at home

845
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 10: with my children. There where there's communal responsibility, community, communal ownership,

846
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 10: and that's great within the family unit. When you start

847
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 10: trying to build an entire society around it, that's where

848
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 10: things historically have always falled apart and struggled. That's where

849
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 10: you inevitably have markets because you always have mismatching needs

850
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 10: and wants between family units. And that's something where the

851
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 10: socialists don't appreciate that difference between what goes on and

852
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 10: family and what goes on between people with different situations, resources, skills,

853
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 10: and and neat.

854
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's socialism is and then the next phase after

855
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: communist socialism. You know a lot of people go to

856
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: school and they learn about socialism, and then it just

857
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 2: becomes the you know, one campus agitator talking about we

858
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: just haven't had perfect socialism, the right socialism yet. But

859
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: you know the basis of socialism just in general, let alone.

860
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: The version of what democratic socialism is is it's government

861
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 2: ownership and control. It's a single payer system. There's no

862
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: private competition, and you need all that to thrive into democracy.

863
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: You need that and you know, certainly we have problems

864
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: in America, there's no denying that. But you know, you

865
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: want to be like I don't know, you want to

866
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: be like like the former Soviet Union. Do you want

867
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: to be like you know, China during during the seventies.

868
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: Do you want to be Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea? The

869
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: answer is hell, no.

870
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 6: You're.

871
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 10: You're you're very politely going through the history of instances

872
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 10: where major, major attempts at socialism have been tried, and

873
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 10: one thing that's really unappreciated and all of that is

874
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 10: the disappearance of price signals when you start having the

875
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 10: government promise that they're going to provide everything.

876
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 6: I think back to an example from.

877
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 10: About twenty years ago when the Cuban government had to

878
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 10: provide rice cookers for citizens.

879
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 6: And there was this it was this big to do. Wow,

880
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 6: isn't it so magnanimous?

881
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 10: The Cuban government is providing all citizens with rice cookers.

882
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 10: And the reason this happened was because the shortage of

883
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 10: rice cookers in Cuba had really scanned the flames of

884
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 10: the black market that the government had created for everything else,

885
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 10: because people weren't because there were so many shortages that

886
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 10: people were having to go and trade on their own,

887
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 10: and you had this sort of blossoming private, you know,

888
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 10: private underground economy. And that's something that socials don't appreciate

889
00:41:55,239 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 10: that prices send information. Prices tell us where things are needed,

890
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 10: where things are wanted, right, and that's why you see

891
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 10: in those you know, in those societies that they inevitably

892
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 10: really do lean into socialism, they inevitably run into trouble.

893
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 2: Soviet Union comes to mind, chronic shortage of consumer goods,

894
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: and we saw the pictures. I'm lined up for toilet

895
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: paper to be handed out right. We've got abundant natural

896
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 2: resources in the Soviet Union, and yet that happened and

897
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 2: we saw the economic collapse, and then they kind of

898
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: want to go back to that because you have a

899
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: generation or two that didn't see how bad it was.

900
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 2: It's kind of like here with vaccines, right, it's like, oh, well,

901
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: what the vaccine's got to be worse than whooping cough? Well,

902
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: if you see what wooping cough looks like, you would

903
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 2: rather take the vaccine that have whooping cough.

904
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: It's the same thing.

905
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's unfortunately, these are the sorts of lessons that

906
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 10: every generation seems inevitably to have to relearn. And it's

907
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 10: now been thirty four years since the fall of communism,

908
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 10: and there are people alive in their thirties who have

909
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 10: never who weren't alive for the USSR, And we have

910
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 10: to be constantly reminding people about these about these lessons

911
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 10: where they still exist in the world. We can't rely

912
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 10: too much talk about what went on behind the Iron Curtain,

913
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 10: and we have to talk more about where these shortfalls

914
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 10: are in existing countries, including by the way, sometimes own,

915
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 10: and talk about where these experiments with socialism just haven't

916
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 10: panned out.

917
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is the lesson. But of course the

918
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: cry has always been yeah, but it's different. Now, is

919
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: it really all that different because it's an economic.

920
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 6: Erce next time will be different.

921
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, next time, it said, well, they haven't gotten it

922
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: right yet. I mean, look at some of these other

923
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 2: countries like Sweden, it's that's more democratic socialism and okay,

924
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: so explain to me how things are so perfect in

925
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 2: a world like.

926
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 10: That, and it's not even I mean, let's be clear,

927
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 10: there's a very big difference between having a very robust

928
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 10: welfare state funded with lots of taxes and still allowing

929
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 10: market competition to happen. What probably what we should be

930
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 10: more concerned about is where the government wants to step

931
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 10: in and be the only provider of certain things, where

932
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 10: you stop having competition, where you stop having capital allocation.

933
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 10: That's where you also run into really big problems with

934
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 10: cronyism when you start to put government in charge of

935
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 10: things like like the electric grid or the healthcare system,

936
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 10: and you you move away from what is an imperfect

937
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 10: but at least responsive system. And that's one of the

938
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 10: that's one of the importances of preserving those market systems

939
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 10: because in a poor performing part of the market you

940
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 10: can always go somewhere else. You lose that when you

941
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 10: have the state takeover stuff. And like I said, in Scandinavia,

942
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 10: they have a lot of social wealth spending, but they

943
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 10: don't necessarily have asshiciating state ownership of things.

944
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 6: There's a there's a very big difference there, and I.

945
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 10: Think people try to almost impolitely sneak Scandinavia through as

946
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 10: some example of this, you know, democratic socialist nirvana, but

947
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 10: it's not.

948
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: We have a lot of socialism baked into policies in America, right,

949
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you mentioned healthcare. Is there anything more socialistic

950
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: than our healthcare system or schools or whatever it might be. Now, granted,

951
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: we're trying to be able to take your money, make

952
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: it portable, and have private schools and vouchers and things

953
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: like that with a lot of resistance, but we've got

954
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 2: a lot of socialism baked into the American system now,

955
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: case in point under Trump, who's an avowed anti socialist,

956
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 2: But we just bought what shares of Intel and MP

957
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: and US Steel, Canadian mining companies, a bunch of others

958
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 2: as well. The state owns the means of production. We

959
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: have socialism now, don't.

960
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 10: You have instances where we were The most efficient system

961
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 10: right now is to have state ownership for things, and

962
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 10: we should be constantly looking critically at that and looking

963
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 10: for alternatives. Doesn't mean you should throw it out, but

964
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 10: we should always be asking the question is this the

965
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 10: most efficient, responsive way to do stuff, because we often

966
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 10: find it isn't. Look at what's happened with the postal

967
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 10: service over the past fifty sixty seventy years, where you've

968
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 10: had private actors come and you know they have been

969
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 10: given the space to compete, and in a lot of

970
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 10: cases they're eating the postal services lunch because competition was

971
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 10: you know, competition was allowed there. Now we're not going

972
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 10: to have rival you know snow. You know, we're not

973
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 10: going to have rival roads or private roads to our

974
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 10: houses anytime soon. But in places like the healthcare in

975
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 10: the education space, we routinely find that competition not only

976
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 10: leads to innovation, but also leads to better outcomes for folks.

977
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 10: In New York, there are lots of what are called

978
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 10: charter schools, which are publicly funded, privately run schools that

979
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 10: parents can pick if they don't like how their neighborhood

980
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 10: school is performing. And there are parts of New York

981
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 10: City where a third of the public school kids are

982
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 10: now in charter schools because they've been given that alternative,

983
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 10: that competition. It's good, it's healthy, and we should constantly

984
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 10: be looking for opportunities to create more competition, even for

985
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 10: in spaces where that we right now call the government.

986
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: It's hard to believe we're like what sixty seventy years

987
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: past Brown versus Board of Education, but that's exactly what

988
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: this is.

989
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: Like.

990
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: You know, mister Brown, back in the day he said,

991
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 2: why do I have to send my kid? You know,

992
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: us to be black to a school on the other

993
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: side of town simply because of her skin color. Why

994
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 2: can't you go to the one right down the street

995
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: from us. Same thing's happening today too. It's like, well, wait,

996
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 2: why do I have to send my kid across town

997
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: to a school that's performing when a underperforming school, Why

998
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 2: don't we just fix the school that's broken that steps

999
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: away from my house. Same type of argument, and here

1000
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: we go again in a limited time we have because

1001
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people are found this man

1002
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 2: Danny thing, but we really haven't discussed his hit list,

1003
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: his wants and needs and what he wants to do

1004
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: New York City, why he won the mayor all primary.

1005
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: What are some of the promise So what are some

1006
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: of things that jumped off the page at you when

1007
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: it comes to the reforms they want to do with

1008
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 2: a democratic socialist or a socialist system in New York City.

1009
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 10: Three major parts of some of them on Donnie's platform

1010
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 10: were making buses free with the New York City providing

1011
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 10: free universal childcare, and then also freezing the rent for

1012
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 10: about half the apartment in New York City. Those that

1013
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 10: are subject to New York City rent regulations.

1014
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 7: Right.

1015
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm a landlord, I own property, So you're

1016
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: telling me I have a cap on how much I

1017
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: can charge. What do you think I'm gonna do?

1018
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 10: Ken, I would not be shocked if you were to

1019
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 10: immediately sell your property if that were the case.

1020
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 2: Or sell to the state, or it's like, okay, fine,

1021
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: I'll keep it. But you know your microwave breaks. You

1022
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: think I'm going to replace that anytime soon? The roof

1023
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: is laking, a pipe is broken, your refrigerator isn't working.

1024
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 2: Where's my incentive to fix that if I can't recoup

1025
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 2: my losses.

1026
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 10: This is something again that predates Mamdani. This goes back

1027
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 10: to the twenty nineteen rent laws in New York, which

1028
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 10: were quite possibly the most extreme rent regulation in the country.

1029
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 10: But what they've resulted in is something called warehousing, where

1030
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 10: you have these apartment buildings where a tenant moved out

1031
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 10: and the landlord just doesn't want to spend ninety or

1032
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 10: one hundred thousand dollars rehabilitating this apartment that's often been

1033
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 10: occupied for forty plus years, and they don't want to

1034
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 10: do the upgrades. They don't they don't want to spend

1035
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 10: the money on major mitigation. So instead this apartment gets warehoused,

1036
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 10: which means nobody gets to rent it. It contributes to

1037
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 10: the housing shortage in New York City. It stresses the

1038
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 10: finances of those buildings and limits the apartment owner's ability

1039
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 10: to invest other things that would benefit the other tenants.

1040
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 10: And it is something that for which there eventually there

1041
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 10: will be a reckoning in New York as more apartments

1042
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 10: get warehoused, as more apartment buildings get pushed into financial

1043
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 10: distress by this law, and at the end of the day,

1044
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 10: the biggest losers are going to be the.

1045
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 3: Dem in New York City.

1046
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: It looks like it did in the seventies, where you

1047
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: have burnt out buildings and poverty atop of poverty, and

1048
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 2: it becomes a dystopian nightmare.

1049
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 10: I very much hope that we don't ever ever revisit

1050
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 10: that situation that we saw the Bronx comes to mind

1051
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 10: in the nineteen seventies. I really hope we don't get there.

1052
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 10: But it is always possible for state policy to result

1053
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 10: in very big problems, especially at the local.

1054
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: Level, largely because history always repeats itself. Because we have

1055
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: short memories, we don't learn, we don't look at the

1056
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 2: past and go, wow, we got to keep doing We go, well,

1057
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 2: why why are we doing that? Why are we doing it? No,

1058
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: it's different now, it's really not really that different. The model.

1059
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: The model still works and the failures of socialism historically speaking,

1060
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: even though theoretically, you know, theory is one thing you applied,

1061
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: it doesn't work. You know, central planning can't allocate resources

1062
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 2: and a lot as you as you mentioned, you know,

1063
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: there's got to be signals from the from the market

1064
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: on what a price on something should be. If not,

1065
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna have shortages and surpluses and misallocate. You're gonna

1066
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: have a million toilet seats and no toilet papers, which

1067
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: are going to wind up having, and there's no incentive

1068
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 2: for companies to make stuff. We sa again back to

1069
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: the Soviet Union. Now you have one one type of

1070
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: car is all you have? Well, good the how did

1071
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: that work out for those vehicles, whether it's in Cuba

1072
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: or whether it's the Soviet Union. And Venezuela is another

1073
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: great example oil rich high. You know, you can talk

1074
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: about not having resource, but Venezuela is an oil is

1075
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 2: an oil rich nation. And you look at what happened

1076
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 2: there because they nationalize the industries. Productivity went down. You

1077
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: had seven plus million people fleeing and their GDP collapsed.

1078
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: That's why Venezuela is in the state it's in right now.

1079
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 2: That's why we're blown up ships off their coast because

1080
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: you know, exporting drugs as a you know, front for

1081
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: China is the only opportunity that they have. And it's

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Speaker 2: an aill origination. It's it's a shame, it really is.

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Speaker 6: Well, next time will be different.

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00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, because now we have the

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00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: Internet and that's the game change.

1086
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 3: We have AI.

1087
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: They didn't have the they didn't have the AI back.

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00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 3: In the nineties. It's gonna be different this time around.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 2: The only thing to change was we had yet people

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00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 2: come of age, be born and not seeing the abject

1092
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: poverty and problems with these models, and then they just

1093
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: go this seems like a sexy thing because they're buying,

1094
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: you know, they're buying something somebody else almos like, yeah,

1095
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: you don't have to work and the state supplies everything.

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00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 9: Sign me up.

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00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 3: Who doesn't want that? It's like crawling back in the womb.

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00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: You don't have to be responsible, accountable, you don't have

1099
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: to hustle or do anything. But if if you do,

1100
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 2: and if you want to, we don't have room for you.

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00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 2: There's no incentive to do that. Again, it's a kinjer arden.

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00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: You can read about this at man Hatton Institute dot

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00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: dot com or is it dot org?

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00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 6: I apologize it's Manhattan dot Institute.

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00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 3: Manhattan dot Institute. There you go. So I really.

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00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: It could be the best, the good best, or socialism

1107
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: on the husband anyway, thanks again, I appreciate it can be.

1108
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 3: Well thanks, yes, sir.

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00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: Now it's New York City though, so we live in Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana.

1110
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 2: Look at it and get the popcorn out. We watched

1111
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: like la right, just go yeah, okay, well you do you.

1112
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 2: I don't really care, but I will say, you know,

1113
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: I mean maybe the opposite could be true as well,

1114
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: that maybe his brand of socialism. And again I say

1115
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 2: that tongue in cheek, not as extreme as it's made.

1116
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 3: Out to be. We'll see.

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00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: It's simply because I think it's kind of surprising to

1118
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: me anyway, as a small government kind of guy, that

1119
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 2: he announced just I think yesterday day before that he

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00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 2: is going to eliminate a lot of the rules restrictions

1121
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 2: and fees for small business in New York City. Not

1122
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 2: very socialistic of him, but nonetheless, we'll see what happens.

1123
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 2: We'll say it plays out anyway, and what the impact

1124
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: is for this next election cycle coming up. I just

1125
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 2: fear there's going to be more like him. We'll find out.

1126
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: We'll find out how about some new use traffic weather

1127
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: with all the snow flying around here and there, We'll

1128
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Speaker 2: find out what the future brings. And I know it's

1129
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: gonna be cold. We'll find out we're getting any accumulating

1130
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: snow in our area anyway too. I know Wilmington up

1131
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: that way north Elebanon northeast eleven and got a little

1132
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Speaker 2: bit of snow like four four and a half inches

1133
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Speaker 2: up that way. So if you're traveling there, be advised.

1134
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Speaker 2: Scott's Loan Show. In a return, we'll tell a little

1135
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: health and fitness and how to deal with all of

1136
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: this weather now that the reality post holiday has set in?

1137
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: How do you deal between now and opening day? We'll

1138
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: get into that next seven hundred w ol wwt Scott's

1139
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: Loan Show, Scott's Loon Show. This is seven hundred w

1140
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: old w I don't have to tell you that we

1141
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: are headed into that time of the year where we

1142
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: don't see the sun. Like Johnny Cash, I ain't seen

1143
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: the sun suns. I don't know when. It's like you're

1144
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 2: in fulsome prison for about six months in Cincinnati, Ohio.

1145
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 2: We're about to have the time change, and then you

1146
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: don't see the sun well maybe late afternoon, then lucky

1147
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 2: at all? And how do you get by with all

1148
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: this stuff? Like in real life in Cincinnati. It's one

1149
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 2: thing to talk about time change and effect it has,

1150
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: but we live here and we know how just gray

1151
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: and dismal it can be until baseball starts all back.

1152
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 2: He's Jen Beckett, Complete Health Revolution, Jen, Welcome. How are

1153
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: you So? This all started back in the fall with

1154
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: the time change. I talked about that, and then the

1155
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 2: holidays come along and we're kind of happy, and hey, Holidays,

1156
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: it's festive. I got my new outfan. I'm gonna go

1157
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 2: on a partner and hang out with my friends. I'm

1158
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: family and take some time off and I gotta shop

1159
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. And then New York, okay, New Year,

1160
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve we were part of like rock stars,

1161
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: and then we come out Okay, time to diet, fitness,

1162
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:25,959
Speaker 2: all that said.

1163
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 3: Great, that's awesome.

1164
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 2: Here we are now a couple of weeks in the

1165
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: new year, and the reality, especially with the snowflakes fly

1166
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 2: and this morning is cold and bitter. It's going to

1167
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: be now. Reality is set in. Uh, there's only so

1168
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 2: much positive energy I have. I'm exhausted at this point

1169
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: relative to diet, in sunlight and all those things tell

1170
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: me something good.

1171
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, there is so much and such a great question,

1172
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 11: and it's timely topic, you know. I think one of

1173
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 11: the biggest pieces that is really important to consider is

1174
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 11: to listen to your body's natural rhythm. You know, as

1175
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 11: we as we change seasons and daylight shortens and cortisol

1176
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 11: and melatonin patterns change, we might be craving more rest,

1177
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 11: more and more warmth. There's grounding tools that we can use,

1178
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 11: there's grounding foods that we can lean into. But the

1179
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 11: key is to really listen to what your body is

1180
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 11: telling you. And I know, in a fast paced society

1181
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 11: we try and just.

1182
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 8: Go and go and go.

1183
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 11: Sometimes the most powerful thing we can do is just

1184
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 11: slow down, take a breath, and go what do I

1185
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 11: really need right now?

1186
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

1187
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 2: Well, like physically, I mean, how about a bag of Dorito's.

1188
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: That's I could use that right now.

1189
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 11: Okay, let me rephrase that, because intuitive eating it right

1190
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 11: a lot of people go, oh, well, whatever, I feel

1191
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 11: like that's what I should be eating. Well, intuitive is

1192
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 11: what does.

1193
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 8: My body need more of right now?

1194
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 11: And Dorito's. Chances are our body doesn't need Dorito's. Our

1195
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 11: mouth might be craving it, our brain might be craving it.

1196
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 11: But chances are we're going to be looking for things

1197
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 11: that are more in the lines of movement rest nourishments.

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00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 11: You know, in the fall season, in the winter, we

1199
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Speaker 11: tend to lean more towards grounding vegetables. Think about like

1200
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 11: root vegetables that have more density to them. They're warmer vegetables.

1201
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 11: They hold a more chloric value for us. And you know,

1202
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 11: outside of nourishment, we're also leaning more towards more sunlight

1203
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:27,959
Speaker 11: and hydration. Might be warmer beverages versus you know, ice,

1204
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 11: coal beverages we experienced or enjoy in the summertime.

1205
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that that makes sense. You want that warmth,

1206
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 2: you want that comfort, you want something to you know,

1207
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 2: everyone loves a mug of coffee or if you like

1208
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 2: tea or whatever, and it's cider even right, it's warm,

1209
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 2: you put your hands around it in front of the fireplace,

1210
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: very Norman walk rock well like. But there's actually is

1211
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 2: there physical or is it more metal component?

1212
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 3: Ors it both?

1213
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 11: It's both, It really is both. And so in Araveda

1214
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 11: medicine that there are absolutely seasons that we lean into

1215
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 11: if we're thinking about nutrition based on the season. Fall

1216
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 11: in winter are more warming and grounding foods, so roasted veggies, soups, stews,

1217
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 11: you know, turnips and carrots and potatoes and things like that.

1218
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 11: More warming spices like cinnamon or ginger, and tumoric you know,

1219
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 11: they help to stabilize our blood sugar. They also help

1220
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 11: to calm our stress hormones, and that in comparison with

1221
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 11: you know, spring and summer where we're eating more leafy

1222
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 11: greens and fresh fruits and berries and citrus and things

1223
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 11: like that. So you know, the heavier and more grounding

1224
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 11: foods allows us to be able to feel more grounded

1225
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 11: and have more sustainable warmth in our body too.

1226
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: So are you saying that our bodies have like a

1227
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: circadian rhythm themselves or I mean our stomach.

1228
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Speaker 11: Anyway, you know, I don't know that there's a huge change.

1229
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 11: Although you know, having some extra probiotics, just extra vitamin

1230
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 11: D can be really beneficial because we're not getting the

1231
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 11: sunlight that we normally do.

1232
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 8: So so you're.

1233
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 11: Looking at that and then as the season change and

1234
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 11: stuff too, because some people are really affected by season

1235
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 11: changes and pallens in the air and you know all

1236
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 11: of the all of the allergies that come out. But

1237
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 11: it's really like, how do we support our body in

1238
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 11: quote unquote flu and cold season. So D three plus

1239
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 11: K two omegas which help with brain and formone health,

1240
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 11: and really making sure we're getting plenty of sleep and

1241
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 11: hydration so that we can be able to keep the

1242
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 11: body balance.

1243
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, hydration going to be the big part of you

1244
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: think just the summer, but you know, you again maybe

1245
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: not sweat as much, but you still have to stay

1246
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: hydrated because you're inside the dry air leads to cold.

1247
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: Hydration is going to help a lot with that. I'm

1248
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 2: a supplement guy myself. I've been taking a vitemine since

1249
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: my mom made me take flintstones vitamins back in the day.

1250
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: I still love flintstones and vitamins, but you know, I've

1251
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: added vitamin D. I think vitamin D is a very

1252
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 2: underrated one, especially what we know about cancer. But what

1253
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: you mentioned is vitamin D is what you need when

1254
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: you don't see the sum as much.

1255
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1256
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 11: I mean, like seventy five eighty percent of the population

1257
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 11: is chronically deficient in vitamin D and it is, like

1258
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 11: you said, it's one of the most important cancer fighters.

1259
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 11: And then coupling that with magnesium K two helps to

1260
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 11: shuttle you know, the calcium into our bones more effectively

1261
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 11: and helps our bone density as well, and not to

1262
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 11: mention our immune system.

1263
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and of course tryan to get a good night's

1264
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 3: sleep as well.

1265
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 2: It's always nice to you know, you know, it's cold

1266
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 2: out or whatever, snuggling out of the covers and having

1267
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 2: a good It seems to be easier to sleep in

1268
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 2: the winter just because of that in your mind for

1269
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 2: me anyway, than it does in the summer when it's hot.

1270
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1271
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 11: I think there's a little bit of inner bear in

1272
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 11: each one of us where we just want to hibernate,

1273
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 11: shurl in and s with you up. It's just like

1274
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 11: that in the winter. Yeah.

1275
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: Jen back in for Sanjay this morning on seven hundred

1276
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 2: WWE Scotsland Showtutal a little health and wellness this morning,

1277
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 2: at this time every Thursday morning, cheese jen at a

1278
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 2: complete health revolution and talking about Okay, now we've settled

1279
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: into the winter moss holidays, a roll over. The fun

1280
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: is over. People are trying to get back on the

1281
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 2: stick maybe diet, exercise, And now you're a couple of

1282
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 2: weeks into this whole thing, and well, now we've got

1283
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: more freezing weather and darkness coming.

1284
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 3: Do we need more sunlight as we age?

1285
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 11: I don't know that you need more, but we definitely

1286
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 11: need a lot of it, right, I mean, just mentally

1287
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 11: the more closed down we are. You know, there's a

1288
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 11: I've read a set of years ago and they were

1289
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 11: talking about the links between like having your blinds closed

1290
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 11: and its impact on depression. And you think about, you know,

1291
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 11: not having as much light during the day because our

1292
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 11: days are shorter in the winter time. But then the

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Speaker 11: less that we're even exposed to that can impact our

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Speaker 11: mental psyche and things like that too.

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Speaker 8: So I think it's incredibly.

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Speaker 11: Important at any age. But the lower we feel, the

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Speaker 11: more sun we meet.

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Speaker 2: No, that makes sense, and you try to get it

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Speaker 2: at any way you can. Now if you're fortunate enough

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Speaker 2: to go to get away in the winter for a

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01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: little bit. Maybe you're a snowbird, or maybe you can

1302
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: go and do a week or two where it's sunny out.

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Speaker 2: That's going to go a long way. How long does

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01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 2: that do you know? How long that affects after? I mean, okay,

1305
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: you go on vacation, you feel good after vacation coming

1306
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 2: back towards cold, there's nothing worse, by the way, But

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Speaker 2: how long that that vitamin D and all have that sunshine?

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01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 2: I mean, how long does that benefit you after you

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01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 2: get back to gray, dismal cold Cincinnati.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, great question.

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Speaker 11: I think it really depends on each individual person, Scott.

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01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 11: And the reality is that most people don't actually get

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Speaker 11: the benefit of the vitamin D when they go on

1314
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 11: vacation because we need the vitamin D to actually hit

1315
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Speaker 11: our skin unprotected for it to be converted into vitamin D.

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Speaker 11: So if we're lathered up in sunscreen, we're not actually

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Speaker 11: creating any of the vitamin D because it's being blocked

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Speaker 11: by the sunblock.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay.

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Speaker 11: Reality is we actually need unprotected exposure and it's like

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01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,919
Speaker 11: twenty minutes a day. But the challenge is if you're

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01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 11: above the Atlanta line at Georgia line.

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Speaker 8: We don't get enough sun sun exposure.

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01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 11: It's not strong enough interesting to really help us create

1325
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 11: the viemin D for majority of the year. I mean

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Speaker 11: we're at least six months out of the year. It's

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Speaker 11: not strong enough to be able to.

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Speaker 8: Help us create what we need, gotcha.

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Speaker 11: And then if we're using sunscreen on top of that,

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Speaker 11: it's you know, we're.

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Speaker 8: Kidding you, your lost.

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Speaker 3: But there's also but the mental effect.

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Speaker 2: It's like I could feel the sun on my faces.

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01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: It maybe strain, but I feel it and I'm breathing

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Speaker 2: it in and it's nice not to have a winter

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Speaker 2: coat on.

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Speaker 3: Totally.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about, you know, things you can do to

1339
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 2: fight off sad seasonal effective disorder in some way, shape

1340
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: or form. We're all struck by it, some people far

1341
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: worse than others. You just kind of grind through it

1342
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: and tolerate it. But there's little cheats you have along

1343
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 2: the way here to help your body adjust to it,

1344
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 2: or at least simply tolerate a lot better than you

1345
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Speaker 2: have in the past.

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Speaker 3: Sleep is a big one.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I mentioned, you know what the kind

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Speaker 2: of foods you're eating, the seasonal foods you're eating, but

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01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 2: also a little exercise helps as well. Right, do you

1350
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 2: want to do that more in the winter in the

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Speaker 2: morning or the evening.

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01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 11: I would say in the morning, you're starting your day,

1353
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 11: You're getting your body going, and you might need to

1354
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 11: change it up a little bit.

1355
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Speaker 8: You're probably going to do.

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01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 11: More indoor strength training in yoga and maybe treadmill in

1357
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 11: the gym and stuff like that. But if I grew

1358
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 11: up in Minnesota, so Minnesota, I'm used to going out

1359
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 11: in the wintertime, and that's one thing that I highly

1360
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 11: encourage because the sun exposure and getting outside in nature.

1361
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Speaker 11: We have such an energy shift when we are in

1362
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 11: nature than when we're inside. So even though you know

1363
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 11: we're still dealing with the time change and the shorter

1364
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Speaker 11: days and stuff like that, the more than we get outside,

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01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 11: even if it's for a walk mid day, it helps

1366
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 11: with our mood, It helps with our endorsemence, it helps

1367
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Speaker 11: with our body, you know, really getting it going. So

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Speaker 11: if possible, I would say, still exercise at some point

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01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 11: during the day, even if it's ten minutes in the

1370
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Speaker 11: sunshine versus just working out like six am.

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Speaker 8: In the dark.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I grew up in Silk Country too,

1373
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 2: and I'm just used to being out in it. Now

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01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 2: as you get older, you're like, man, this is not

1375
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 2: as fun as easy to be when I was a kid.

1376
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: But I like, yo, shovel snow and that's a good workout. Yeah,

1377
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 2: if we get that kind of snow around here, hopefully

1378
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 2: not anytime soon, but we certainly will. And you know,

1379
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 2: at some point you will eventually see the sun. When

1380
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 2: Red's Basico ball comes back around gen then that starts

1381
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: to feel like summer again.

1382
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Speaker 3: And we do this all over but there's ways to

1383
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 3: get through it.

1384
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 2: So vitamins, supplements, exercise, get and sleep very least. You know,

1385
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: you don't have to be a gym rat in order

1386
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 2: to get exercise. So and you're like, well, like water,

1387
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 2: I can't go for a walk. It's icy and snowy outside.

1388
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 2: What can you do?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, and it's really I mean to your point,

1390
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 11: you don't have to be a gym rat just doing

1391
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 11: basic exercises. Just I think about functional fitness a lot.

1392
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,439
Speaker 11: One of the exercises a lot of my clients love

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01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 11: is what I call it get up. So you literally

1394
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 11: lay down in the ground, flat out, your legs out,

1395
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 11: your arms out, and you just get up and doing

1396
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 11: those exercises just about every motion and every muscle in

1397
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 11: your body, because you have to use yourself to propel

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01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 11: yourself up. And if it takes you initially two minutes

1399
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 11: to get up because you need assistance, cool, it gets slow.

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01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 11: Use assistance if you need to, you know, if you're

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01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 11: older and have or have an injury.

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01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 8: Or something like that.

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01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 11: But just the act of engaging all of your muscles

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01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 11: is incredibly powerful and it's something that anybody can do.

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01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 8: We don't have to have.

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01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 11: You know, gym equipment or a boat flex or you

1407
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 11: know whatnot, But it's how do we incorporate the little things,

1408
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 11: you know, doing some squats while you're sitting on the

1409
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 11: phone waiting for the phone to ring, or.

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01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 8: Doing some counter push ups in the kitchen.

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01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 11: You know, there's so many little ways that we can

1412
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 11: incorporate movement into our day without having to live at

1413
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 11: the gym or overhaul our entire life trying to figure

1414
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 11: out how to.

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Speaker 8: Quote unquote get healthy.

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01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 2: I see what you did. They're kind of went for

1417
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 2: like the trendy. The Turkish get up is what you're

1418
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 2: talking about.

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Speaker 3: The trendy.

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Speaker 2: Like if you're seeing people do it, it's a kettlebell

1421
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 2: exercise where you're lying on your back. You got a kettlebell,

1422
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 2: which is the round one. It looks like a cannon

1423
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: ball with a handle on it, and you're holding that

1424
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 2: over your head with one arm, and there's a specific

1425
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 2: sequence you form to get up off the floor and

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01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 2: then reverse the pattern to get back down. It's like

1427
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 2: a full body kind of workout thing. So if you

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01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 2: see freaks like Jen doing it, it's called a turkey shadow,

1429
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 2: is what it is.

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01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 11: Yes, and it's also something and the guy with a

1431
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 11: client who literally couldn't get up and down off the

1432
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 11: floor by herself. She had to use the couch or

1433
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 11: she had to have somebody's hand to be able to

1434
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 11: help her up. But by doing a get up just

1435
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 11: body weight, she started gaining enough strength where she was

1436
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 11: able to improve her functionality and she was able to

1437
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 11: get up on her own.

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01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: Never a while, it seems like such a silly exercise,

1439
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,959
Speaker 2: but it's literally like very very bag. You think about it, like, wow,

1440
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 2: that's something everybody, especially as you get older. Now, maybe

1441
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 2: you don't do it with a twenty pound kettleball over

1442
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 2: your head, but just and you can break it up

1443
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 2: into small chunks too, but that's a very real life

1444
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 2: kind of exercise, right, you're actually doing You're doing something

1445
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 2: that you'll use, maybe not every day getting off the floor,

1446
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 2: but how many people you're older, like man, I can't

1447
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 2: get up off the floor without a crane and O

1448
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 2: Dot coming and putting cones around me. You'll be able

1449
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 2: to do that after a very short period of time,

1450
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 2: which was really really handy.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 11: Yeah, and for me, I look at you know, I mean,

1453
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 11: I want to live to be ninety one hundred hundred

1454
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 11: and ten years old, but I want to be functional

1455
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 11: doing it. I don't want to just live that long

1456
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 11: sitting in a nursing home or sitting in a wheelchair.

1457
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 11: I want to be out, traveling and living life. And

1458
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 11: so the more functional we can make our movement and

1459
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 11: our fitness, and the more intention we have behind that,

1460
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 11: the longer and more longevity we're going to have in

1461
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 11: our life.

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01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 3: No doubt.

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Speaker 2: Jen Beck at Complete Health Revolution, thanks so much for

1464
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 2: the time this morning on Scott Slone Show. Appreciate the

1465
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 2: good information. Winter is here. Thanks again, appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Thanks guys, I appreciate you. Here.

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Speaker 2: She's in for our physician Sonjay SHEVACREMANI here, and I'm

1468
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 2: gonna talk health and fitness and stuff on Thursday mornings.

1469
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, winter's back. Winter's here. Baby. We had that

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Speaker 3: early hit.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy, multiple inches of snow, and I was

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Speaker 2: kind of warming. I was like sixty degrees. Couple, like

1473
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: last week, they're golfing and shorts. You're crying out, lou

1474
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 2: like it's Florida or something in January. And now it's

1475
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: starting to You're like, well, it's January again, so we're

1476
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 2: in for the grind, right.

1477
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Speaker 3: How do I think the holidays too? For most people?

1478
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 3: You know, you a little bit of snow and cold.

1479
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 2: Temperatures, and there's Christmas trees and you know, good drinks

1480
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 2: and food and your and there's revelry and the excitement

1481
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 2: of Christmas and the holidays and getting the other friends

1482
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 2: and family. Also taking some time off as most of

1483
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 2: us did. Most all of us did. And then the

1484
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 2: pattern says and okay, first week in New Year, can't

1485
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 2: wait to get back. Okay, I'm a little slow to

1486
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 2: by this time. By the middle of the month, that's

1487
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 2: when reality strikes, like, Okay, fund's over. I started some

1488
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 2: new things and came out of the blocks running and

1489
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: now it's starting to be a pattern and like, oh

1490
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 2: my gosh, now it really hits you, right, So hopefully

1491
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 2: some things in there to help you help you cope

1492
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 2: until we see the sun again. And by the way,

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01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 2: I'll point out Reds baseball less than seventy days away,

1494
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 2: although I don't know how much we're anticipating it's baseball

1495
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 2: because last night it's inta a center. I saw this

1496
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 2: with Phil Castelini was announced of the crowd, a partnership

1497
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 2: between the university and our Red Legs, and he was speaking,

1498
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,839
Speaker 2: but you really couldn't hear that much of it because

1499
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 2: the crowd was booing that loudly.

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Speaker 3: Yeh, that's tough, tough times for Cincinnati.

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01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 2: Sports for sure, normally have anticipation the Reds being great

1502
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 2: and okay, get this, and I think just because that

1503
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber thing, a lot of people are down. We'll

1504
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 2: see how it plays out. I mean, they got to

1505
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 2: the playoffs last year. Don't know what's going to push

1506
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 2: him over the top this year. We'll find out. Bengals,

1507
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 2: we've lost all hope there, that's done and over. No

1508
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 2: fun watching other teams play football and your team is

1509
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 2: I don't know where were they the boys. Burrow and

1510
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 2: the boys were in Vegas having a good old time. Fantastic.

1511
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 3: Great.

1512
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 2: Everyone else is focused on the playoffs. I know you see,

1513
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: and well Ex did win, so they both won. But

1514
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 2: not turning down when you look at hey, Miami, that's

1515
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 2: our team, Max basketball team.

1516
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 3: Great, they're rolling undefeated. Awesome. We'll see how that goes.

1517
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, it is winner to set in here, a

1518
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 2: lot to look forward to, but you just lean into it.

1519
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 3: I suppose the best way to do it.

1520
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 2: Let me get a time out in we got news

1521
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 2: on the way when we return on this Otsloan show.

1522
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 2: New rules in Kentucky. Three strikes and you're out for renters.

1523
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 2: I like this a lot simply because you know, generally

1524
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 2: people are landlords like myself are looked at as evil people.

1525
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 2: You know, the same people that I guess the folks

1526
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 2: in Minnesota elsewhere they would protest be angry at us

1527
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 2: because you own property. But anyway, the scales in a

1528
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 2: lot of areas have been tilted away from from landlords,

1529
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 2: and I Cincinnati feels that way at times too. Anyway,

1530
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 2: Jesse Brewers here, that gets some new three strikes in

1531
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 2: your outlaw. That's going to go in effect in that community,

1532
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 2: and we'll talk to him coming up after news. A

1533
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 2: quick update speaking of weather, we've got that traffic and

1534
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 2: more just ahead on seven hundred W All Thebody Cincinnati.

1535
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 3: My Scott Fold here on seven hundred W LW.

1536
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 2: So we've heard the story of the Angel Store, about renters,

1537
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 2: the landlords, and there's an effort to reduce repeat emergency

1538
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 2: calls to rental properties. And you know sometimes there are

1539
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 2: properties out there and people renting that are news, at

1540
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,759
Speaker 2: least in Kentucky Common Sensus King because they're they're proposing

1541
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 2: a law which would address chronic nuisance occurrences at rental properties,

1542
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 2: a three strikes in your outlaw and on that is

1543
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 2: Boon County Commissioner Jesse Brewer working with State REPTJ. Roberts

1544
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 2: in Northern Kentucky for house spilled three three seven that

1545
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 2: would do justice. Jesse, welcome, how you been?

1546
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 6: Hey, I'm great, Thank you Thanks venting me on to Yeah,

1547
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 6: I appreciate it.

1548
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.

1549
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 2: All right, give me the details of though, First of all,

1550
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 2: why is this needed? How big a problem are the

1551
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 2: nuisance tenants in Northern Kentucky and Boone County.

1552
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 12: So well, it's not just Boone County. It's everywhere.

1553
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 5: This is it.

1554
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 12: It's any area where you have rental property. What if

1555
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 12: you get someone that's excessively abusing public services, you know

1556
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 12: there is this is for the person that plays for

1557
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 12: Radio two loud all the time, or maybe partaking in

1558
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 12: some substances they shouldn't partake in. The neighbors smell it

1559
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 12: and complain or whatever the case may be, what they

1560
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:55,759
Speaker 12: call neighbor.

1561
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 6: Someone calls nine.

1562
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 12: To one one. The police have to go out there.

1563
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 12: The parent I think have to go out there for

1564
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 12: whatever reason. And also not it's taking away from their

1565
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 12: job of what they should be doing, you know, because

1566
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 12: they have to respond no matter what, because what if

1567
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 12: it's that one time there is really a problem, right,

1568
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 12: so they got to respond. Well after they do this

1569
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 12: so many times the cities in County two, they can

1570
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 12: tell the property owner, hey, we got a problem here

1571
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 12: at this property.

1572
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 5: We've been here x y z times.

1573
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 6: You know.

1574
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 12: I had a tenant in a building in the city

1575
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 12: in Kenton County and I think the police were there

1576
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 12: eighteen times in a thirty day span because he would

1577
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 12: just went and put playing a stereo allowed and then

1578
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 12: they were kept calling, and so the city came to

1579
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 12: me and said, hey, you gotta do something about this

1580
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 12: or you're going to start finding you. Well, under current law,

1581
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 12: if a tenant's paying their rent, you can't just give

1582
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 12: them a seven day nose to vacate for non payment rent.

1583
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 12: I know Ohio is three day, but in Kentucky at

1584
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 12: seven you can't just give them a seven day nine

1585
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 12: post non payment notice. You gotta file thirty day eviction notice.

1586
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 12: You gotta file thirty day notice of vacate right then

1587
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 12: you can of victim. So they'll give me in there,

1588
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 12: fornuncio two to three months. Well, what House No. Three

1589
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 12: thirty seven will do is it will allow us to

1590
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 12: shorten that length and that notice period, shorten that up,

1591
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 12: allowing to get them out quicker. The NW sense, which

1592
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,799
Speaker 12: is for less of Australia on public services. The property

1593
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 12: owner can then maybe get a tenant in there that's

1594
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 12: a good community member, lower their costs, you know, because

1595
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 12: you got a person that's doing this things tearing the

1596
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 12: place up. Lower my cost I lower my operating costs,

1597
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 12: I lower my housing costs.

1598
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,440
Speaker 6: Housing gets cheaper.

1599
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, that makes sense.

1600
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 9: Let me Jesse.

1601
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 2: Let me play devil's advocate for just a second. I

1602
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 2: like being the devil's advocate here. This happened in Ohio

1603
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,679
Speaker 2: years ago when we had when gun crimes were starting

1604
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 2: to I guess, become more of an issue than they

1605
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 2: are now. Seems kind of quaint to think that wasn't

1606
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 2: a case. But they decided, Hey, we're gonna sue gun

1607
01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 2: man if we're going to have their gun manufactured, then

1608
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 2: the defense will well, you know what, why are you

1609
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 2: soon as well? Because of the cost police fire, emergency

1610
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 2: responders and all that stuff.

1611
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 3: It's a fall of the gun. What aboutpening?

1612
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 4: Is that?

1613
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 5: Well?

1614
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 2: No, that's why police fire and MS exists is in

1615
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 2: order to do that, you can't sue someone for doing

1616
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 2: their job in that case. Does that apply here in

1617
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 2: that Yeah, it might be a nuisance and it's training resources.

1618
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 2: But police fire and MS exists to respond in this

1619
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 2: case nuisance tentence. Police exists to respond to things like

1620
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 2: that as part of their job description.

1621
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 3: Is that an affirmatile defense?

1622
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 12: It could be, but then they're going to look to

1623
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 12: you as a property owner because they have ordinances on

1624
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 12: our folks that.

1625
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 6: Says you have a problem.

1626
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 12: Ten here that's creating and creating us to be called

1627
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 12: come here too much, stucking up too much resources, and

1628
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 12: we're going to start charging you for these trips. Or

1629
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 12: you've got a problem here with this tenant because the

1630
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 12: resident that you're responsible for because we are here too much,

1631
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 12: got it because it's there. So it's I feel what

1632
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 12: you're saying on that. But with the ordinate and laws

1633
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 12: are in the books, we are kind of forced as

1634
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 12: property as to do something.

1635
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, because because.

1636
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 2: Then I could I could turn that around and go, okay, well,

1637
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 2: if I got to make if we're making multiple runs

1638
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 2: to the same place over and over and over again,

1639
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 2: could that not apply to I don't know, a sports stadium,

1640
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 2: Could that und apply to a university?

1641
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 3: Could that not apply Let's say to a nursing.

1642
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 2: Home where you you know again, whether it's police fire, mss. Okay,

1643
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: there's a nursing home here where I live, and in

1644
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 2: every other day there's a squad out front, largely because

1645
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 2: the people inside are the age where they're passing away

1646
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 2: or suffering the debilitating or stressing medical emergencies as comes

1647
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 2: with old age. But no one would agree that, hey,

1648
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 2: you know what, we should target a nursing home because

1649
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 2: of all the response calls we have there because they're

1650
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 2: abusing the system.

1651
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 12: Correct, and that's where the abuse is the system going

1652
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 12: to come in as a specific person. If you have

1653
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 12: a nursing home, large department store, you're getting calls as

1654
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 12: different people, different issues, or they're legitimate medical burgencies. And again,

1655
01:15:55,720 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 12: this doesn't get triggered unless the city or the municipality

1656
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 12: cite the property.

1657
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1658
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 12: So, and they're not going to do that unless it's

1659
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 12: a legitimate abusive resource. If that's the legitimarieson be there,

1660
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 12: they're not gonna that. Those triggers wouldn't happen.

1661
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 3: Got it, got it?

1662
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1663
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 2: And in Cincinnati, I don't know if it's changed since

1664
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 2: or not. I don't own proper in Cincinnati, but for

1665
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 2: a while they were talking, Hey, you know what, if

1666
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,560
Speaker 2: you've got a you know, a tenant that's a problem.

1667
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 2: After a couple occurrences, we're going to start finding the landlord.

1668
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 2: I go, wait a minute, now, if I've got a

1669
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 2: grown ass adult living in one of my units, am

1670
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 2: I responsible to drive by several times a day to

1671
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 2: make sure that individuals not playing their music loud or

1672
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 2: smoking weed in the yard or doing it, and of

1673
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 2: course not that that's on them, not that's not the landlord.

1674
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 12: I don't disagree with you at all, and but they

1675
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 12: look at you as their screen responsible person to.

1676
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 5: Put them in there.

1677
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 12: Mike Kennard has been well, if they owned their own house,

1678
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 12: so you start signing fighting, Yeah exactly said the police said,

1679
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 12: yeah we will.

1680
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,560
Speaker 6: There's orgousness for that. I was like, oh, okay.

1681
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 2: To say that, because the people who are responsible we

1682
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 2: won't hold accountable. We'll account the typical in America, the

1683
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 2: people who are responsible accountable, We're gonna hold them responsible

1684
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 2: as opposed to the people are even though they're all adults.

1685
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 2: I could see it doing for a kid, but these

1686
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 2: are grown adults correct.

1687
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 12: And a lot of times when the first responders in

1688
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 12: the cities don't necessarily understand how landlord tenant law works,

1689
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 12: and they're like, get this person out of here, let's

1690
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 12: do process. I gotta give them a thirty day notice,

1691
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 12: I gotta wait for this, I gotta you know those

1692
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 12: hoops I gotta jump through and they don't understand that

1693
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 12: or grasp that, and they get frustrated with you. So

1694
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 12: ideally this would allow us to identify the problem that

1695
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 12: apple is a few and speed up that time to

1696
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 12: save resources, preserve property. You know, if I got a

1697
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 12: tenant that's just junking up the yard and jumping dunk

1698
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 12: junk cars in the yard, doing this and doing that,

1699
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 12: I gotta let them sit there and continue to damage

1700
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 12: the property for an extra month under the current wall.

1701
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 6: Assuming that rents.

1702
01:17:55,600 --> 01:18:00,600
Speaker 12: Yeah, this way I can get get the street the problem,

1703
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 12: lower my cost, get a better to in there, make

1704
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 12: the neighbors happy, make the police have apartment, fire department happy,

1705
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 12: code enforcement happy, and everyone wins and.

1706
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 3: It's good for the neighbor's DA.

1707
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 2: If you you know the other thing Jesse Brewer by

1708
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 2: theay Boone County Commissioner on this three strikes you're out

1709
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 2: law that's being proposed in Kentucky, meaning that if police

1710
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 2: have multiple calls, we'll get the details of that. A

1711
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 2: second multiple calls to a rental property, you can, as

1712
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 2: a landlord evict that person that holds them accountable for

1713
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 2: their actions. Because the way in cincinnatalis it was is

1714
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 2: all right, we're going to go after the landlord. If

1715
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 2: it's a new sentenant, Okay, well can I victim Oh no, no, no, no, No,

1716
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 2: that's that's damn near impossible to kick these people out

1717
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 2: because you know you got to go a course the

1718
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 2: whole probable. Wait a minute, hold on just a second. Here,

1719
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: this is Jesse. I like you because your common sense

1720
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 2: kind of guy like me. This is just damn common sense.

1721
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 2: Get into the details exactly. Yeah, get in the details

1722
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 2: of what the triggers for this eviction would be.

1723
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 12: So first of all, it starts with if people just

1724
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 12: do what they're supposed to do and be normal human beings,

1725
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 12: you don't have anything to worry about. Right If people

1726
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 12: just do the right thing and not be an a hole, uh,

1727
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 12: you know, then you wouldn't have any issues. But this

1728
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 12: is designed for you know, you got someone that's likes

1729
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 12: to put off a bunch of crap in the yard

1730
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 12: of the property and make it unsafe. They're putting cars

1731
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 12: or putting refrigerators or whatever they want to do. I

1732
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 12: had this happen to me, Well, City pych you as

1733
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:24,799
Speaker 12: they rightfully should.

1734
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 5: I get that.

1735
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 12: Okay, they're gonna side. If you can't do this, we've

1736
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,679
Speaker 12: got to ordinate fi get this. You know, after about

1737
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 12: three or four of those you like for one, you

1738
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 12: always find a stack up, and now they're like, get

1739
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 12: this person out of here. You know, we keep coming

1740
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 12: over here to deal the decisions. This person needs to go. Well,

1741
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 12: they pay their rent, so I got to go file

1742
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 12: a third day notice to vacate on them, and then

1743
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 12: I can file an addiction after that if they stay,

1744
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 12: and that's another thirty days.

1745
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 6: Right.

1746
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 12: Meanwhile, you're still dealing with the same issues and the

1747
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 12: frustrations reap or you get another person that you know

1748
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,679
Speaker 12: they like to play the stereo a little too loud

1749
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 12: and the neighbors are constantly calling the police. Well, if

1750
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 12: they show about three or four or five times within

1751
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 12: a certain times, man, they will send you a love

1752
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,719
Speaker 12: note that says we're gonna start finding you. Mister property owner.

1753
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 12: You need to get your tenant community orders rules in line.

1754
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 12: So's there's some layers that have to happen here. You know,

1755
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 12: you have to have an excessive repeat offender that that

1756
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 12: that has unfounded you know, culture service. Then the city

1757
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 12: would have to cite you or or then the city

1758
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 12: would say okay, this is the problem. They give you

1759
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 12: the notice, then you can do the three day notice

1760
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 12: of vacate. As this law of proposed gotcha and shave

1761
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,719
Speaker 12: a month off, the shave a month off the process.

1762
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 2: So you have to have what three three strikes in

1763
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:41,679
Speaker 2: a would you say, six month period.

1764
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 12: That's the current that's how it is currently written, but

1765
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 12: it's a lot of stuff fall discretionary to when the

1766
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:50,560
Speaker 12: city is also cite the landlords. There's still gonna be

1767
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 12: some bugs to work out here. I think the three

1768
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 12: months has three, three and six months. But the city

1769
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 12: doesn't cite you or the county doesn't fit you, then

1770
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 12: there there's no trigger there. They have to be the

1771
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 12: one to take the step aside.

1772
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 2: You well, what about an element of discrimination here in

1773
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 2: a sense that because I'm just trying to think of

1774
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 2: how how one may counter this argument in poke holes

1775
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 2: in it and I'll help the law become better. Let's say,

1776
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 2: for example, Uh, there's some bad neighbors and they don't

1777
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,679
Speaker 2: like the person living there because they're young, they're old,

1778
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 2: they're white, they're black, they are I don't know, gay, straight,

1779
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 2: whatever it might be, and like the neighbors like, well,

1780
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 2: you know, or are they you know? I've seen this

1781
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 2: one before too, believe in on political affiliations, we don't

1782
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 2: want this person the neighbor, you do that how do

1783
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,600
Speaker 2: we know that those are legitimate calls for service and

1784
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 2: complaints as opposed to someone just trying to run someone

1785
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 2: off of property.

1786
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 12: And that's a good point that's too to be worked out.

1787
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 12: I believe the spirit of the law would be they

1788
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 12: are the problem, not someone calling on them for something

1789
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 12: that they can't control, like one of those types of things. Okay,

1790
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 12: you know you still have they everyone still has a

1791
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 12: First Amendment right. They're still a right, you know, freedom

1792
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 12: of speech and see whatever of religion, political affiliation they want.

1793
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 12: And if they're you know, spare housing has a lot

1794
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 12: of protections there, and someone's calling for one of those

1795
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 12: honored reasons and the city gets there said, well, this

1796
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 12: is don't really.

1797
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 6: Have found a complaint.

1798
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 12: They can't go back on you and make you violate

1799
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 12: fare housing to move someone out because of the coloror

1800
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 12: skin or they're realizing or familys des because and everything life.

1801
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you cand always find a neighbor doing

1802
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 2: something you disagree with, but calling the place, some people

1803
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 2: do that. They're vindictive, they got nothing better to do.

1804
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 2: I've seen it happen. I'm sure you've seen it happen

1805
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 2: with with sentence as well. And whatever the issue is,

1806
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 2: it shouldn't cause you to lose where you live because

1807
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 2: it's the it's the other person's problem, not yours.

1808
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 12: And that's would be where they have to have a

1809
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:33,799
Speaker 12: valid nuisance violation, not something that's what you suggested.

1810
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:35,759
Speaker 6: What would they that's something of it.

1811
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 3: Jesse Burr. Would domestic violence calls be excluded from this?

1812
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 8: Oh?

1813
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 12: I hope so, And that's something I would hope so

1814
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 12: because that's a safety issue, right, I would definitely hope

1815
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,600
Speaker 12: that you would have domestic violence issues be screened on that.

1816
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 12: And that's a tricky one because you don't want anyone

1817
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 12: to be in an unstage situation.

1818
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,879
Speaker 6: So I believe that's.

1819
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 12: What would be need to be excluded from that as

1820
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 12: a domestic violence called absolutely.

1821
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 2: Got you comissioned a Jesseie Brewer on the Scotserland Show

1822
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 2: seven hundred w but his hospital three thirty seventies helping craft.

1823
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 2: That would create a three strikes and out rule for

1824
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 2: chronic nuisance tenants. So if you get three service calls

1825
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 2: within a six months peer in the granted, those have

1826
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 2: to be verified and this person has to you know,

1827
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 2: you get eighteen noise complaints. As you said, you should

1828
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 2: get run off and it gives three days notice for

1829
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: a landlord to evict you. If you are one of

1830
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,480
Speaker 2: those people who are using a lot of the resources.

1831
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 2: You mentioned this about saving money and allocate proper allocation resources. Uh,

1832
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 2: there's overtime costs, there's equipment where how how big a

1833
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 2: problem is this really? How many nuisance tenants are there?

1834
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 3: Is it? Is it a huge problem?

1835
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 12: Are the Kentucky it's enough to where we're talking about it, right,

1836
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 12: it's one of it's one of those issues. Is it

1837
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 12: Is it detrimental to the business?

1838
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 8: No?

1839
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 12: Uh, but this would just forment a problem. Yes, it

1840
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 12: does a problem. It's not that we have a lot

1841
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 12: of these problems, but when you have one, it's a

1842
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,719
Speaker 12: big problem or could be a big problem and very

1843
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 12: falsely problem for the cities to dispatch services for the

1844
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 12: property or and everything else. So you know, if I

1845
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 12: have one hundred tenants, you know, this might be one

1846
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 12: or two of them. But when you start multiplying, now

1847
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 12: you know across all the rental proper and everything else,

1848
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 12: and compounding it, and you know, you know you have

1849
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 12: ten thousand pieces of rental property nation of city. There's

1850
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 12: a lot of services on a police department, fire department

1851
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 12: to be wasted.

1852
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,679
Speaker 2: Not much of a deal at the Northern Kentucky University

1853
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: or Mount Sahel, But what about UK Louisville, big universities

1854
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 2: where you have a large number of young people like

1855
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 2: to have fun and be allowed at all hours of

1856
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 2: the night. What about UK Louisville and schools like that

1857
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 2: relative to off campus.

1858
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 12: Housing, well, kus, it could be a little different. So

1859
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 12: I get it's gonna have to be the triggering of

1860
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,600
Speaker 12: the calls from the police to the landlord. But a

1861
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 12: lot of those cities already have ordinances in place, and

1862
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 12: what they're going to do is they still if you

1863
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 12: have a problem, they still are going to make you

1864
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 12: get rid of them. This isn't like there's still if

1865
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 12: I have a nuisance problem today right now on the

1866
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 12: current wall, I'm still getting the love brands from the

1867
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 12: city with a citation threats or citation thing deal with this.

1868
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 12: So it just takes me thirty days to get them out,

1869
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 12: and then I know, thirty days. Interesting in theory, if

1870
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 12: I can get them out faster, this could be an

1871
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 12: enticement for people to behave.

1872
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, could very well be. Again, there's a lot.

1873
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 2: There's some perils in here that have to be addressed.

1874
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 2: So I'd imagine it's could take a bit of time

1875
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 2: to get through the legislature, and.

1876
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 12: It may not get through this year. A lot of times,

1877
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 12: the legislation like this comes up and gets introduced for

1878
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 12: a year, they talked about it, this tweak it among

1879
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 12: all the other legislations that they do, and it might

1880
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 12: come back next year looking a little different. But the

1881
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 12: conversation starts the committee meeting here. You can start on

1882
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 12: any legislation that you got to get it introduced. You

1883
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 12: got to get it going, and then you've got to

1884
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 12: get input from the other stakeholders and groups and address it.

1885
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 12: It might take two or three sessions to get something.

1886
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 3: Push now, No, that makes sense.

1887
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 6: Kentucky is the.

1888
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 12: Kentucky is the budget year by annual get sucking. We

1889
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 12: do the budget every other year for two years, so

1890
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 12: it's our bi annual budget year. So there's a lot

1891
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 12: of high priorities in Kentucky right now. You know, I

1892
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:10,759
Speaker 12: know there's they got a lot of like the grooming

1893
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 12: bill that Marian that's a good one he's got filed,

1894
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 12: right So there's a lot of other joh say higher

1895
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 12: priorities for legislators, rightfully, so we've got so much time,

1896
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,759
Speaker 12: so this one might make it heard and talked about.

1897
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 12: Isn't really brought and center. It's a niche it's a

1898
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 12: niche issue. It's a niche industry problem for police, fire

1899
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 12: and cities. So but it could get talked about, expand

1900
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 12: upon and move along the typewine. Sure, but there's certain priorities.

1901
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 12: There's only so much time to day for these legislators

1902
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 12: that's to address issues, and they'll get to it and

1903
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 12: they can get to it.

1904
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:47,799
Speaker 2: So yeah, Jesse brew Boone County Commission. Always a pleasure

1905
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 2: having you on and something to think about, for sure.

1906
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting. I want to follow this one,

1907
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 2: uh and see if we can do this in Ohio

1908
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 2: because it makes sense. I think you can't force someone

1909
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 2: to be a good neighbor, but the law should be

1910
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 2: able to help you this one. It's good for the neighborhood.

1911
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 2: It's you think anyway. Jesse, all the best, thanks for

1912
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 2: jumping in.

1913
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:06,679
Speaker 12: Thanks appreciate funning.

1914
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 2: Have a good one, Yeah you too, be well. We'll

1915
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,560
Speaker 2: get a news update in wheather'sday concerned. We'll find the

1916
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 2: latest there and therefore, maybe some traffic at two and

1917
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 2: news headlines what's going on in Minnesota and elsewhere? And

1918
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 2: when we return on the Scotslan Show, Oh boy, we

1919
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 2: got issues in the Sloan household. Whether you hear you

1920
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 2: think you got problems in your house? Well you hear

1921
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 2: my wife? That's next seven hundred w other.

1922
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 3: The bells? Do you hear the bells? It could only

1923
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 3: mean one thing.

1924
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:36,719
Speaker 7: It's real estate time with Michelle Sloan, Remax time agent

1925
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 7: and proud proprietor of Sloan Sellshomes dot Com. Heed her

1926
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 7: words or face her wrath on seven hundred wl WI.

1927
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 3: All right, my.

1928
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 2: Wife is here recuperating from her second knee search. How

1929
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 2: many more knees do you need to get done? This

1930
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 2: is starting to cut into my time.

1931
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 8: I think it's the final knee replace.

1932
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 3: That I need to get that three of four it.

1933
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 8: But I'm wondering where you are because I need it

1934
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,719
Speaker 8: new ice. I'd like a cup of tea. I would

1935
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 8: like you to turn the fireplace on because it's cold.

1936
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 8: And Bandit is doing fine. He's snapping right here next

1937
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 8: to me, and he is.

1938
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 3: Not you the dog, the dog, not you the dog.

1939
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 8: He's not going to run away because he loves his mama.

1940
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:26,839
Speaker 2: There's no way. So he misses. My wife said, knee surgery.

1941
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 2: Uh second name by both names. And so you know,

1942
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 2: granted I've had a couple of surgeries myself, and you've

1943
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 2: been there. There's no way, though, there's no way in

1944
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 2: hell that I have been this difficult a patient as

1945
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:38,680
Speaker 2: you are with me.

1946
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 3: I'm just going to go on record of saying.

1947
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:43,480
Speaker 8: That, oh please, very demanding.

1948
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 2: Very demanding. I'm up this morning at five o'clock. I

1949
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 2: get early, get up right, and I got to take

1950
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 2: the dog out, because you know you can't do that,

1951
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 2: s all right. I take him and he doesn't want

1952
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 2: to go for a walkie. I get the leash. He

1953
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 2: buries himself back under the covers, does not want to move.

1954
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 2: I got to drag him off the bed like an

1955
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:05,719
Speaker 2: otter down a hill and take him outside. It's thirty

1956
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 2: degrees blows here, it's snowing outside, it's cold. I get out,

1957
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 2: walk start walking, and he sees something in the dark

1958
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 2: that I didn't see, and he takes off. The only

1959
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 2: problem was in the darkness and such when I attached

1960
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 2: the leash, I must have attached it to the ring

1961
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 2: that has the tags the dog tags on as opposed

1962
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 2: to the one that's actually on the collar. Well, of

1963
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 2: course that gives way and breaks, and he's gone. He's

1964
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 2: I mean, he is just vanished. And now I'm out there.

1965
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,679
Speaker 2: It's cold. I'm like, oh my god. So I'm walking

1966
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 2: like ten minutes. I call you and say, the dog

1967
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 2: got away. I don't know where he is. He saw something,

1968
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 2: a deer. He's down the street. So I'm walking around

1969
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,719
Speaker 2: looking for the stupid dog, freezing my you know what's off?

1970
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 2: And uh, get back the house. I'm like, well, I

1971
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 2: gotta go to work. I gotta leave. I'm late already.

1972
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:47,799
Speaker 2: And eventually he just.

1973
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 8: Dog out in the wild.

1974
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 2: He'll come back. What do you want me to do?

1975
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 2: What am I gonna do? Go house to house with

1976
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 2: a search? Warn what am I one of my ice?

1977
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1978
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 3: He just start kicking doors and looking for this dog.

1979
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,679
Speaker 8: Anyway to work? If I can't, I can't. I can't

1980
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 8: walk on my own house.

1981
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 6: I know him.

1982
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 2: I know you can't, but the dog is you have

1983
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,639
Speaker 2: to find his way back and scratch it. So eventually

1984
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 2: he did find his way back, and he was crying

1985
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 2: to the back because I went to the house and

1986
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes later he's like, well done, it's

1987
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:18,919
Speaker 2: cold over here. So I let him back in crisis averted.

1988
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 2: I just hope you he'll say, sooner than later. Let's

1989
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 2: put it that way, sooner than later. Yeah, I'm getting eyes.

1990
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 8: Honey, honey, honey. It's not even been a week.

1991
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 3: It feels like a month.

1992
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 8: So I had well, that's because six weeks seven weeks ago,

1993
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,839
Speaker 8: I had knee number one done, and then six days

1994
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 8: ago I had knee number two done. So we know, like,

1995
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 8: and you went and left me and went off to work,

1996
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:53,080
Speaker 8: you know, because they need you there apparently, and I

1997
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 8: need you to be my nurse or find another hunky

1998
01:30:58,360 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 8: man to come get me.

1999
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 6: My seat into my tee.

2000
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 3: Can I have some water and bring it back? Can

2001
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 3: I have ice?

2002
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2003
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 2: Hold on, let me get ice. I'm going to need

2004
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 2: a straw. Okay, Hey, do you have a different container

2005
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 2: for the alright?

2006
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 8: No, all right, you have zero patience for this job.

2007
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 3: I think I've been doing that's not fair. I think

2008
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 3: I've been doing quite well.

2009
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 8: No, no, no, you it's you've been fine, but fine.

2010
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 8: You need to work on your what's it called the skills?

2011
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 8: The skills. Your best side manner is to be desired.

2012
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 2: I've been biting my tongue pretty well because there's a

2013
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 2: pattern here where it's like, do you need I know?

2014
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:43,559
Speaker 2: Do you I'd love doing it because you were there

2015
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 2: for me. That's part of the partnership of a strong marriage.

2016
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's like, Okay, do you

2017
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 2: need anything, No, I'm good, I'll sit down, getting going.

2018
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 2: Hey can you get me all right? Hold on, go

2019
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 2: get it? Okay, good, sit back down.

2020
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 3: Hey do you need anything now? No, I'm good, Hey

2021
01:31:59,120 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 3: can you bring it?

2022
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 8: Well? I don't need it. It's something when you asked

2023
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 8: me and then I might need something. It's just part

2024
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 8: of it, part.

2025
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,799
Speaker 3: Of part of the fun of growing old.

2026
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 8: Together so much.

2027
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 3: You got any real estate, So what do you do

2028
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 3: in real estate?

2029
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 6: Wise?

2030
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 3: You're sitting on your asstate.

2031
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 8: Okay, so I have time on my hand.

2032
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 2: I know that, and that's what's compounding the issue. Anyway,

2033
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 2: I'm bored.

2034
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 8: Out of my skull, but I have now I have

2035
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 8: one hundred facts about Greenland. Do you want to know

2036
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 8: about it? Because wait, what our president you're doing?

2037
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 2: This is supposed to be about well us complaining about

2038
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 2: each other but also also real estate.

2039
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 3: What does this guy do with real estate?

2040
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 8: It's everything to do with real estate. Because if you're

2041
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 8: going to spend seven hundred billion dollars to buy the

2042
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,559
Speaker 8: largest island on earth? Did you know that Greenland is

2043
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 8: the largest land mass, largest island on Earth. It has

2044
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:03,560
Speaker 8: some ulatural resources, rare minerals and oil potential and fisheries,

2045
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 8: so it's got a lot of nice fresh sift. It

2046
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:09,600
Speaker 8: seems a little cold in Greenland. I must admits I

2047
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:11,760
Speaker 8: have I have some time on my hands, so I

2048
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 8: thought it would be fun to do a breakdown on

2049
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 8: you know, if you were to buy this island of

2050
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 8: Greenland for seven hundred billion dollars, I feel like that's

2051
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 8: kind of a pretty good deal right now. So you know,

2052
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 8: if you're in the market to buy Greenland, you should

2053
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 8: call me because that commission.

2054
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 2: Is going to be just what I mean, after you

2055
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 2: sell this thing, how many signs are going to be

2056
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:36,599
Speaker 2: in my garage?

2057
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 8: I will need a few signs. I'm going to have

2058
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 8: to do it. You know, you have to invest in

2059
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 8: order to make money.

2060
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:46,600
Speaker 3: So big breakdown.

2061
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 8: So apparently it's not like a typical mortgage when you

2062
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:55,719
Speaker 8: do the seven hundred billion dollars. You know you buy

2063
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 8: something for that much. It's something called sovereign debt. I

2064
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 8: don't really know what that means.

2065
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 2: Well, your first talk, extensive sovereign debt basically is us

2066
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 2: borrowing more money we can't afford to borrow. That's what

2067
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 2: sovereign debt is. Secondly, yeah, I don't think. I don't

2068
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 2: think you do installment payments for this thing I down or.

2069
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:18,759
Speaker 8: Well yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess those details. Seriously,

2070
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:19,679
Speaker 8: I have the information.

2071
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, very important? Is this you? Is this

2072
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:23,759
Speaker 3: real life orsus the meds talking?

2073
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:26,799
Speaker 8: Well, it might be a little high, but that's okay.

2074
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 8: I feel pretty good right now, Jah payment twenty percent

2075
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 8: down payment on a seven hundred billion dollars is what?

2076
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 3: How much down is?

2077
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 8: One hundred and billion dollars? That's all?

2078
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 3: Okay?

2079
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:45,679
Speaker 8: Nothing your loan amount so eighty percent your loan amounts

2080
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 8: isn't going to be five hundred and sixty billion dollars

2081
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 8: over the term of fifty years. Now, in my assumptions,

2082
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 8: I'm only a sum of a rate a mortgagrade of

2083
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 8: five percent. Six That seems really low, but let's just

2084
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 8: go with it, Okay, Now, what's.

2085
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 2: Your what's your monthly payment? Just give me the bottle

2086
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 2: of what monthly want?

2087
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 8: Okay, two point seven two billion dollars a month a month.

2088
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 8: But then you have the debt service and you know

2089
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 8: annually you're paying thirty two point six billions. So really

2090
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 8: you end up like a lot of properties, the Devil's

2091
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 8: and the details, because you're going to be spending a

2092
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 8: heck of a lot more than seven hundred billion for

2093
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 8: this property, because once you factor in the interest and

2094
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 8: the compounding, you're spending a really lot of money on

2095
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:41,799
Speaker 8: this property.

2096
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 9: Well do you?

2097
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:45,639
Speaker 8: But that's okay because Greenland is a beautiful place. I've

2098
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 8: seen pictures on the TV. No it isn't it's a

2099
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:50,759
Speaker 8: beautiful place.

2100
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 2: No, Iceland is the one you want. Greenland is the

2101
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:53,719
Speaker 2: one you don't want.

2102
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 8: No, Greenland is fine, green Onom is fine.

2103
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 2: People can listen. You're in centinnt he high right you complain.

2104
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 2: Look at the weather right now, people, Oh my god,

2105
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 2: it's so cold and it's so cold as snow. When

2106
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 2: it's a little bit of snow green and a lot

2107
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 2: of snow.

2108
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 8: It's pretty cold. Yeah, you'll get used to it though.

2109
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 8: Your body acclimates to that kind of weather.

2110
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 3: No, they don't. Do you know who lives in Greenland?

2111
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 8: No, I don't.

2112
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:22,719
Speaker 3: Do you know the population of Greenland, the biggest island

2113
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:23,799
Speaker 3: in the world. Correct?

2114
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 5: Do you know the.

2115
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 8: Population fifty thousand or something?

2116
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:30,640
Speaker 2: Fifty seven thousand people, which is like the size of

2117
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 2: a suburb in Cincinnati. Oh, over that vast expanse and

2118
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 2: they're all ino wits.

2119
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 8: It's fine, okay, So we do have to worry about

2120
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 8: the operating cost. So on top of our seven hundred billion,

2121
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 8: we have operating costs of about twenty one billion a year.

2122
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 8: When you talk about infrastructure, healthcare, government, defense, No, this is.

2123
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 3: As is, This is as is now?

2124
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, what you're gonna have it's just like you're

2125
01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 8: gonna have to pay the electric bill.

2126
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,600
Speaker 3: This isn't a house. It's what do you do? Do

2127
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:04,879
Speaker 3: you do you? How do you do an inspection?

2128
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 8: Well, I don't know. We're gonna have to go house

2129
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 8: to house. It's going to take a while. You know,

2130
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 8: it'll be fine the inspection. I know, people, there's a

2131
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 8: crack over here.

2132
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

2133
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 2: I don't like the way this boulder inspecting a country.

2134
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:23,800
Speaker 3: What is wrong with you?

2135
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 13: No?

2136
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:26,680
Speaker 8: No, no, but here's the thing. There's some revenue to

2137
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 8: be made there.

2138
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 2: Can you buy a home? Can you buy a wouldn't

2139
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 2: be a homework. Can you be a country warranty.

2140
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 3: On this thing?

2141
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 8: Yeah? I don't know.

2142
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 2: If the furnace breaks, you pay I don't know, two

2143
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:37,480
Speaker 2: hundred dollars deductible.

2144
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:37,599
Speaker 3: That can fix it.

2145
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 8: I don't know. But you know they have fisheries there, yeah,

2146
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 8: and they have mining and I bet there's some really

2147
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 8: pretty rocks there.

2148
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2149
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 2: We're good on rocks. We have a grand canyon full

2150
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 2: of them. We're good.

2151
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 8: But what about tourism. They're going to have to increase.

2152
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 3: I don't think you can go there now.

2153
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 8: Out there, I don't think there's any real hotels there.

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01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 8: You might have to just get an airbnb and something.

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01:37:59,080 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 8: How much?

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01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 3: How long to recoup our costs?

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01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 2: Because it's an investment, right, this is the and you know,

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01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:05,720
Speaker 2: as you know, buying Greenland would be the most the

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01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 2: biggest investment we have.

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Speaker 13: Okay, so we think investment, but it's not it's not,

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01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:13,640
Speaker 13: as you know, it's not as big as you know

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01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 13: the payoffs that we did to like during COVID, when

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01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:21,320
Speaker 13: everybody got like five dollars or something or.

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01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 2: The two grand allegend we're going to get I don't

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01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 2: know about that. So they've got okay, but all right,

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01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 2: you've got fishing and tourism. But we it's not like

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01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 2: we don't have a shortage of fish. Now we get

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01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 2: the fish from Greenland.

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01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 3: Anyway, I know this isn't it just better to rent, better.

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01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 8: To own than rent. It's always better to own than rent,

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01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 8: and always better to use the I think I think, really,

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01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 8: I think there really are no no, no, it's good.

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01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:58,679
Speaker 8: Apparently though the investment, we're going to lose about fifty

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01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 8: billion a year you're on this investment. It's how you

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01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 8: just told me.

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01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 3: A second ago.

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01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 2: You said, well, you know, you spend money, make money,

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01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:09,720
Speaker 2: But how are we losing money then?

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01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 8: Because the cost of owning it and the amount of

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01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 8: interest that we're paying. You know, it's the problem.

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01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 2: It's like we've got a what thirty eight thirty nine

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01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 2: trillion dollar debt, so you know, what's another couple of

2183
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:24,640
Speaker 2: percentage points is what you're saying. But that's how we

2184
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 2: got this problem in the first place.

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01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 8: But seven hundred billion is only if you look at

2186
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 8: our debt that we have right now that just like

2187
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 8: every second every minute. It's only about one point one

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01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 8: and a half percentage were buying green One.

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01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:42,799
Speaker 3: This is unreal.

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01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 2: This is gonna be the dumbest segment we've ever done.

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01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 3: This is so stupid. It should be at one thirty

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01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 3: and two thirty in the afternoon.

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01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 8: No, no, this is good stuff. This is very important.

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01:39:57,320 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 8: People need to know.

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01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 3: That we're buying Greenland. That was How big a sign

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01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 3: would you have to have?

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01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:03,640
Speaker 11: That?

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01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:06,800
Speaker 3: Says Michelle Sloane. How big is sign do you need to.

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01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 8: I need something in space? So I might need like

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01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 8: a satellite, So let's add that to the price.

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01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 2: Well, you're high right now, so satellite would be you

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01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 2: could just reach over.

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01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:23,680
Speaker 8: No, maybe some drones. How about a drone show with

2204
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:24,679
Speaker 8: my name and life?

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01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:25,640
Speaker 11: No?

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01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could be drowning right now.

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01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 2: I don't all right, So if you want to buy

2208
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 2: what a mess?

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01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 8: You need to come home now.

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01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 2: Believe me, Believe me. I cannot wait to not get

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01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:44,720
Speaker 2: home my wife. Michelle Sloane. Uh Sloan sells homes dot

2212
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 2: com open house show, remaxed time in Manville. And I

2213
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 2: don't know if I don't know if this is a

2214
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 2: good endorsement for your abilities right now?

2215
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 3: The way you're rambling.

2216
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 8: Fine, it's totally fine. Everybody thinks this is funny.

2217
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:01,640
Speaker 2: She's on drugs, folks, because she orne done. And I

2218
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:04,040
Speaker 2: don't know why we're talking about buying making a case

2219
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 2: for buying Greenland here.

2220
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 8: I'm not sure something I have to say though. This

2221
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 8: is just hypothetical, this is real life.

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01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2223
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 2: You know, the worry is okay, national security worried about

2224
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 2: Russia or China taking it over?

2225
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 3: How about this?

2226
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 2: Why don't we wait and see if China or Russia,

2227
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 2: which by the way, has a lot of cold air

2228
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:22,760
Speaker 2: siber pretty good.

2229
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:24,639
Speaker 3: We got Siberia. I don't think we need.

2230
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 2: Another frozen rock out there. If they get close to

2231
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,800
Speaker 2: like threatening to take over, then we move in. That's

2232
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 2: kind of what NATO does. So I don't know the

2233
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 2: whole thing. I fit well, you know, if Russia gets

2234
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 2: ahold of this, Russia really talk with Ukraine, they are

2235
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 2: they really talking about Greenland? Is that is that in

2236
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 2: the top ten for putin or g with the China?

2237
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know.

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01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:45,640
Speaker 2: I'd rather just kind of wait and see how it

2239
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 2: plays out. I'm pretty sure Greenland's gonna be okay.

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Speaker 8: You know that and they really don't want us there.

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01:41:53,200 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 3: I mean, if we wanted to, they.

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01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 8: Said that, they said that they're not for.

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01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:59,639
Speaker 3: Sale fifty six thou wits. I mean, you know it's

2244
01:41:59,680 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 3: not good.

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01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 8: Be that hardest, Like it's like the farmland that you know,

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01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 8: they're really not interested in selling unless you bring them

2247
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 8: seven hundred billion dollars.

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01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think dan Mark is really going to

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01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:13,479
Speaker 3: be that. What are they going to stand up to us?

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Speaker 2: This is like I don't know, there's like the Germans

2251
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 2: roll into France in World War two, right, it was

2252
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 2: pretty easy.

2253
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 8: Well there, I don't think you have much of a

2254
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 8: defense there.

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01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't think so either. I mean,

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01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:25,640
Speaker 3: if we wanted, we could take it.

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01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:28,759
Speaker 8: But I don't have solar bears and stuff. I haven't

2258
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 8: really researched the types.

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01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 2: Of the I got an idea, Michelle, why do you

2260
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:34,719
Speaker 2: get off the phone with me and call the White House?

2261
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:37,160
Speaker 3: Why don't you.

2262
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 2: Try and just call the switchboard at sixteen Ounred Pennsylvania Avenue,

2263
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 2: say I want to talk to Trump. I got an idea.

2264
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 2: I got he needs a real estate agent, is what

2265
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 2: he needs? Licensed in Greenland?

2266
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 3: Right now, you are.

2267
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:53,679
Speaker 8: Probably update my license because I'm.

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01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:55,720
Speaker 2: Only like, based on the met's talking right now, I'm

2269
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:59,280
Speaker 2: pretty sure you're also able to sell real estate on

2270
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 2: Jupiter anyway.

2271
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:03,719
Speaker 3: All right, I love you. I'll see you probably sometime

2272
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:04,680
Speaker 3: next week. I gotta go.

2273
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:08,760
Speaker 8: You need to come home right away? Yeah, I uh,

2274
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 8: I have need.

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01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to Greenland. Let me go scope

2276
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 2: it out for you. I'll be I'll be back in

2277
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. My wife Michelle Sloan on The

2278
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 2: Men this morning. Here, I don't know what just happened,

2279
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 2: but it just did. Willie's on the way next seven

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01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:21,719
Speaker 2: hundred WWT sincenat