1 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Bill cunning in the Great American of course. Rets baseball 2 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: kicks off today at two thirty five first pitch, about 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: three or five out of the Cactus League. But until then, 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: maybe more important things are going on. A couple days ago, 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: I saw Holly from the Beatdown on Sixth Street, from 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: the Music Festival, stand up in front of the cameras 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: in Columbus proposing a law that many lawmakers say absolutely 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: that would keep some of these violent felons in prison 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: when they commit crimes kicking people in the head or 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: using firearms. We thought that we had judges in Ohio 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: that would keep up these gangbangers, these convicted felons, keep 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: them in prison so they can't get out committing more crimes, 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: which is happening all the time. Jony, you and I 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: out's that same Holly who was at Sixth Street back 15 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: in July for the music festival. And Holly, first of all, 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And before we get 17 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: onto the bill that is going to be in your name, 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 1: how you doing these last nine or ten months? Tell 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: us the journey you've taken the last nine or ten months. 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: First of all, physically, so. 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: Physically, I mean physically, I look better. You look at 22 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: my face, my bruise is gone, but I do I'm 23 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: permanently disabled for the rest of my life. 24 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: I do have brain damage from what happened. 25 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: And I have been going at least three to five 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: times a week, every single week since this's happened for 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: you know, physical therapists, occupational. 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 3: Therapy, speech therapy. Parts of my brain. 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: The neurons don't fire like they used to or working 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: at certain part of my brain that was hit on 31 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: the concrete, and so it has basically I've had to 32 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: start from ground zero of remembering my name and where 33 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: I'm at, what I'm doing, you know. And I took 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: months before I was even able to really leave my 35 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: house other than press conferences because it was important. But 36 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 2: other than that, I mean, I've I've lived in fear 37 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: every minute of every day. I mean, I'm I don't 38 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: want anyone to ever have to go through this. I 39 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: will never be the same and my children will never 40 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: have the same mom that they once did, which really 41 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: saddens me. And I just know, you know, some of 42 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: the neurological issues that I have. You know, I'm in 43 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: chronic pain all the time, and I have to go, 44 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: you know, different different specialists or trying to put me 45 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: back together. 46 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: But I've had to go. 47 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: You know, to to Columbus and Cincinnati, Dayton all around 48 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: to different specialists just trying to help help figure out 49 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: how they can somewhat get me back to normalcy, which 50 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: is really all I'm kind of hoping for at this point. 51 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: I watch your interview the other day. Some of the 52 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: individuals who treated to your head like a soccer ball 53 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: were out on bond. And this is a big issue 54 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: of what happened is Cincinnati Live. What happens every day 55 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: in room May that we don't hear about because there's 56 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: not news that violent individuals are released with little or 57 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: no bond with an ankle monitor, like Mordecai Black was 58 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: released with an ankle monitor that he cut off before 59 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: he killed Patrick Herringer. How explain the individuals in their 60 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: criminal history in bond. If the system of Hamilton County 61 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: judges had done their job, you'd be and you'd be 62 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: well today. Explain the individuals who kicked your head on 63 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: Sixth Street? Why were they out? 64 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: So that's probably the part that I find the most 65 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: disturbing and upsetting about everything, is what happened to me 66 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: was preventable. 67 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: And I think a lot of the. 68 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: Murders, rapes, attacks that are going on in all of 69 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: our cities are preventable if the people who take an 70 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:07,559 Speaker 2: oath to protect us would actually protect us. So basically, 71 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: the mob of people that were attacking you know, the 72 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: group I was with, through looking at their reports, not 73 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: one of them was a first time offender. 74 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: They were all repeat offenders. 75 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: One of them even had been to jail forty two times, 76 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: had been arrested forty two times, and almost every time 77 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: it's no bail or low bail, and you know, they 78 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: just kind of get a little slap on the wrist, Hey, 79 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: don't do that again while they're out there attacking people 80 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 2: and beating them. And the alleged man who organized the 81 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: whole beatdown with us, he had just got out on 82 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: I think either of super low bail or no bail. 83 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: I forget because it all starts running together. But two 84 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: weeks before he was a convicted felon who had got 85 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: arrested for carrying a done. And so you know a 86 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: lot of these guys who were out beating us on 87 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: the street and kicking in our heads were they had 88 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: guns on them. 89 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: They're ex felons. 90 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: They're you know, have a uh constantly being put in 91 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: and out of jail, and no one's holding them accountable. 92 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: And I think we should all be upset about that. 93 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 2: We should all find that very disturbing, and we should 94 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: start asking who is holding the judges accountable or why 95 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: are they given such power to play Russian Roulette with 96 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: our lives when we didn't sign up for that. I 97 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: know I didn't sign up for it when I was 98 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: beat to an inch of my life. So I absolutely 99 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: feel like this is my moral obligation and duty to 100 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: let people know, Hey, this is happening. 101 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: Who's going to hold them accountable? 102 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: Let's all come together, you know, let's let's start having 103 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: our voices be heard and say enough as an enough, 104 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: we're taking back our cities. We're not going to keep 105 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: letting the same criminals take over like they have been 106 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: for so long. 107 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: You know, one thing going on here, Holly, is that 108 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: after Riverfront Live, we have another judge, Bernard Munday, give 109 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: an individual with four previous criminal convictions with a gun 110 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: who had everything in the book. He's only twenty four 111 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: years old, and he gave him a low bond which 112 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: would allow him to get out, and the US Attorney 113 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: Dominic Jerasi said enough is enough with Hamilton County. He 114 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: added federal criminal charges, which means that Frenik Cobb and 115 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: Derek Long, the two who shot up Cincinnati Live. It's 116 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: a miracle only nine people got shot and no one's 117 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: been killed. I know one or two still his intensive care. 118 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: He took the cases away from Hamlton County because the 119 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: federal system doesn't think Hamilton County has a functional justice system. 120 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: When you release violent felons with guns on bond, when 121 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: you provide sentences like in the Ryan Nitton case. The 122 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: three other individuals who stole that car, that began the 123 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: process when Deputy Sheriff Larry Henderson was murdered, they began 124 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: the process. All three of the individuals, including from a 125 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: Republican judge, got two years of probation two years of 126 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: probation for stealing cars, guns, police officer murdered. Three of 127 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: them got two years of probation, and then sincere grigsby 128 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: one of the three, after two weeks of probation, started 129 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: sticks a gun in the face of a woman, knocks 130 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: her down, steals her person or car, he's back out 131 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: again on armed robbery charges. It's a it's a revolving door, 132 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 1: and so how would the how would that build change? 133 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: What would change that? Because your working Columbus, what changes? 134 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: So the beautiful thing. 135 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: So DJ Sweeringen, I need to give him praise. He 136 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: is he is the lawmaker on this. He's the one 137 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: who has really just kind of advocated and said, let's 138 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: get this going. 139 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: So he is wanting these. 140 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: Cases to be taken to where if they're letting these 141 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: silent criminals, like you said over in Hamilton County just 142 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: run rampant, and then somebody else can say, wait a minute, no, 143 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: I don't think they should be out. The victims can 144 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: then say hey, wait a minute, you know, no, I 145 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: want this to go to the higher up. So what 146 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: I'm told is that these cases will then go to 147 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: the Attorney General's office and they look at him and 148 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: say no. 149 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, shot that guy in jail. 150 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: And then the judges will have to explain themselves and 151 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: they have to say, oh, well, I let this person 152 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: out on no fail because I think that, you know, 153 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: that's just not fair for them to not. 154 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: Go be able to go rob more people or whatever. 155 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 3: Their excuse is. But then the Attorney Geral's office or 156 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: you know, the higher. 157 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 2: Ups can then say no, no, just because you feel 158 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: that they should be able to go out doesn't mean 159 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: that they can because they have proven. Now these are 160 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: just repeat offenders, they're not first time offenders. So they 161 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: have proven that they cannot be functioning members of society 162 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: and they are a menace and they are putting all 163 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 2: of our lives in danger. So finally they're going to 164 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: be held accountable and they can't do sweetheart deals anymore. 165 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: And you know, these cases will then go to the 166 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: higher ups to say, okay, no, this person, you know, 167 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: they should be out on a low bond because they 168 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: only stole bread to feed their kid whatever. 169 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 170 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: Then they're like, no, this is the fifth time they've 171 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: raped someone in the past two years. No, they're gonna 172 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: sit in jail and think about what they did. 173 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: Well. 174 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: And the good old days, we didn't have to worry 175 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: of policing the judges because we anticipate the judges would 176 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: represent the community and keep the violent element out on 177 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: the city streets. That doesn't work anymore. Hamilton County has 178 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: some terrible judges when it comes to criminals like to 179 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: Judge Samanthas Silverstein is terrible, like Judge Bernard Monday is terrible, 180 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: Like Judge Dwayne Mallory is terrible, like Judge Dante Johnson 181 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: is terrible. And the list is long. Judge Caliver is terrible. 182 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: Judge Jeniah Trotter Branton, I'm naming names, are terrible. They 183 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: don't want to protect the community because they believe they're 184 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: pursuing social justice. Whatever the hell, well, social justice means 185 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: people like you don't have your head treated like a 186 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: soccer ball on Sixth Street. To me, that's social justice 187 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: right there. 188 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: Exactly. 189 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that you know, if they're not going 190 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: to protect us, when they took an oath to protect 191 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: the innocent people, then you know, I absolutely think that 192 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: there should be a spotlight on them. Yes, and you know, 193 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: the higher ups are going to say no, if you're 194 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: not willing to do your job, Hopefully they'll bring somebody 195 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: else in that will. And I think once they have 196 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: to continuously explain themselves. 197 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: And you know, hopefully it'll clean up the Act and. 198 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: Then they'll they'll start giving the higher bonds and keep 199 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: the people in jail that need. 200 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: To be keep them safe and you're saying one of 201 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: the guys that beat you down. And the music festival 202 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: last summer, I think July twenty six was the day 203 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: it click to my mind. There it had forty two 204 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: previous convictions and a judge led them out on probation. 205 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was. 206 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: If you guys go to the Hamilton County website and 207 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: look up all the people that were arrested, it's public record. 208 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: You can look, and I think that you will be 209 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: absolutely outraged. 210 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: At their rap sheets. 211 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: I mean some of them have three four pages long 212 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: of rap sheets and violent, violent attacks and robberies and 213 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: you know, felons with guns and everything else. 214 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: And it's like, you. 215 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: Know, why why is it forty two times this person's 216 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: still out on the street, Like, come on, come on people. 217 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: You know. So, I think that us as good Americans 218 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: need to call the office of DJ Swarrington and say, hey, thanks, 219 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: I want this bill to pass through. You know, we 220 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 2: all need to come together and use our voices and 221 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: start putting a spotlight on these judges. Well. 222 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: Lastly, I would hope the Feds at some point we 223 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: get involved in your case. I know civil lawsuits may 224 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: be penning down the road. But when you have city 225 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: council members a few days after you were beaten to 226 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: with an ind of your life, stand up in front 227 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: of microphones, the vice mayor lemon Kearney and the Scottie 228 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: Johnson members of council demanded that a white person beats 229 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: That was Alex Showinsky, who, by the way, is still 230 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: awaiting trial because too many black people were arrested. I 231 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: couldn't care less if you're white, black, or polka dot. 232 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 3: Well. 233 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: I deal with the behavior of the person committing the crime, 234 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: but they made it racial. And at some point I 235 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: know the Civil Rights Division Department of Justice looks at 236 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: public officials who demand a person be charged because of 237 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: the color of their skin. That was the white guy 238 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: who was one of the ones beaten along with you, Javinsky. 239 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: He represented by a lawyer in Dayton, and so I 240 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: have hopes that maybe the Feds would cause criminal charges 241 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: to be filed against individuals in your case. That hasn't 242 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: happened yet. 243 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 2: Correct, No, No, And they are still going after Alex 244 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 2: and still continuing to try and prosecute him in this 245 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: even though video was released proving we. 246 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: Didn't start this. 247 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: You know, this was definitely you know, kind of an 248 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: organized thing the attack, and that broke my heart that 249 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: just because we were white, they wanted to arrest the 250 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: white people, and I knows. 251 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 3: There'd be riot. 252 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: Can you imagine if we had city council Murvers saying 253 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: too many white people have in charge with this crime, 254 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: let's go find somebody black. The world would end as 255 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: we know it. But it's done. Only it is ridiculous. 256 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like that's where I'm like, let's just 257 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: look at us fighting evil, you know, good versus evil, 258 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: not black versus white or Democrat versus Republican. They also 259 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: try to turn it into this whole political thing and 260 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: have those sides fight, not just black and white. 261 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: And it's like, people, let's look at the reality here. 262 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: Let's stop diverting and projecting into a different area. No, 263 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: let's let's focus on the reality is that the system 264 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: failed us, and they fail us hard every day. 265 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: Holly, this happens every day. You should be in roommate 266 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: and watch what happens. And in this case, Judge Monday, 267 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: there were nine black people shot at Cincinnati Live. He 268 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: didn't care about black lives matter. I think those nine 269 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: people that were shot victims of crime like you were 270 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: need judges that will separate the violent from peaceful citizens. 271 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: And Judge Monday couldn't care less about the black lives 272 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: that were shot. He cared more about the black life 273 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: in front of him, who did the shooting. You know 274 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 275 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, did they at any point say, hey, let's arrest 276 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: the victims because they were shot and they were black. 277 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like that doesn't make sense, you know. 278 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: But for some reason, they wanted our heads when we 279 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: were attacked. 280 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: They wanted you criminally city council wanted you to be 281 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: criminally charged. Alex Schravinski was charged that they wanted somebody 282 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: white to be hung up there and said, Holly is 283 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: the one that to cause this to hit her in 284 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: the head like a soccer ball. He was just swinging 285 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: his leg and your head gotten the way, and therefore 286 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: you should be charged with a crime. It's I live 287 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: in madness. Well, we got to run, Holly. I'll stay 288 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: in touch with you over the next few months. Let's 289 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: get this damn bill passed. 290 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: Let's do it. Yes, keep being a great American, And. 291 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: Thank you God, bless you, Holly, Thank you very much. 292 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: And at some point maybe the Supreme Court needs to 293 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: get involved like Chief Justice Kennedy and tell these municipal 294 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: court judges you're about to be kicked off the bench 295 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: if you don't do your job. Let's continue News Next, 296 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred ww