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Speaker 2: Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 1: One thousand percent since twenty twenty four, one thousand percent.

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Speaker 1: And these people, the so called protesters, and we'll probably

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Speaker 1: But yesterday, just some details on what happened yesterday, and

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Speaker 1: The man resisted arrest and began a violent assault.

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a part of the one thousand percent

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Speaker 2: It's just ridiculous. The officer did. He took a shot.

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Speaker 1: But according to Fox News, protests continued yesterday after that shooting,

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Speaker 1: this is mister Abram, the victim's father.

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Speaker 1: He said two things, First, how demonstrators were being stoked,

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Speaker 1: You never hear Governor Waltz, You never hear the boy Mayor.

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Speaker 2: It was preventable by number one. You don't let everybody.

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Speaker 2: Nothing.

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Speaker 2: Here's what he says.

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Speaker 1: Quote, we know when ice agents attack immigrants, they attack

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Speaker 2: I mean, let them do their job.

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Speaker 2: You know, just throw the racist in there.

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Speaker 1: You know, the term is used like thrown around like confetti.

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Speaker 4: Oh anytime, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Can you break it down, Steven? Honestly, just over the

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Speaker 2: Kind of things.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's the kind of thing that the

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Speaker 1: why do you think she did that? I think she's smart.

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Speaker 5: what the practical impact that that's going to be is that,

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Speaker 1: Do you did, were you able to find out who

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when the prosecutor says that she thinks he's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's clear and convincing evidence. I mean, you know

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Speaker 5: Know, once they get over that hurdle, which under these

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Speaker 4: You know, under the state.

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Speaker 5: Law, it's anywhere from fifty six to sixty eight thousand

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Speaker 5: Now he can additionally ask for some other things on

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Speaker 5: Able to make a demand for one point eight million dollars.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I mean, it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: I did a little bit of research this morning on

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if you saw Steed.

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Speaker 1: There's an interesting chart, couple interesting charts, grafts whatever on

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Speaker 1: the Court of Claim's website, and it breaks down how

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Speaker 1: these things I guess over the last however many years

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Speaker 1: they've been doing it, it's not really that that long,

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Speaker 1: but the decision on them and the ultimate outcome forty

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Speaker 1: two percent, there's an order approving settlement, twenty two percent

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Speaker 1: decision and judgment for plaintiff, and seventeen percent entry of

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Speaker 1: dismissal and very small four percent voluntary dismissal. So you know,

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Speaker 1: people have been successful up there. It sure sounds like

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Speaker 1: based on that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm a little surprised by those numbers, because

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Speaker 5: every time I've double with this that court, you know,

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Speaker 5: there has been a settlement. I mean, I have represented

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Speaker 5: police officers and correction officers who have been you know,

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Speaker 5: sued on you know, by prisoners.

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Speaker 4: You know, I just.

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Speaker 5: Recently wrapped up one where an inmate was in a

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Speaker 5: fight with a security guard that ended up being paralyzed

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Speaker 5: and then he sued for for millions.

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Speaker 4: Upon millions of dollars.

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Speaker 5: And I can't, you know, disclose the settlement that was confidential.

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Speaker 5: But here the Attorney General's office did did approve a

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Speaker 5: settlement in this and a lot of these times, the prisoners,

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Speaker 5: you know, get paid more often than not. So if

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Speaker 5: you rack up the successful verdicts that they get what

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Speaker 5: the settlements, you're you're probably close to two thirds of

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Speaker 5: these folks get some real money.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: They've also got a chart on their going back to

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Speaker 1: seventy six, I think that's when they started doing it

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Speaker 1: this way, and the amount of money throughout the years

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Speaker 1: from seventy six it only goes up to twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: You can see from the chart it's gone up substantially

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eleven up to ten million bucks.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, I mean, I guess we'll just

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Speaker 1: have to wait and see on that. I'm just curious.

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Speaker 1: How are the judges appointed up there. Obviously they don't

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Speaker 1: run for it, just a governor's appointment, or do you know.

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Speaker 5: You know, my recollection is I think they are appointed

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Speaker 5: by the governor of fire Recall and they are not elected.

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Speaker 5: And that's one of the reasons why that the Court

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Speaker 5: of Claims is something even people who practice law for

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Speaker 5: years may not even know about it or encounter right.

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Speaker 5: But no, they're all appointed. They're considered to be administrative judges,

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Speaker 5: even though you know, the court does function more like

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Speaker 5: a regular court room. Under certain circumstances, you can have

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Speaker 5: a jury trial. They also deal with a lot of

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Speaker 5: public records matters. These days, they have jurisdiction over public

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Speaker 5: records cases that involved of state funding and a lot

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Speaker 5: of and a lot of cases, so they have a

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Speaker 5: lot more say than you would think. Uh, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's all up in Columbus. All the proceedings are in Columbus.

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Speaker 4: No matter where in.

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Speaker 5: The state you know, the alleged issue occurred, you have

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Speaker 5: to go to Columbus to deal with these and the

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Speaker 5: appeals you know, kind of go through the Tenth District

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Speaker 5: up in Columbus and at up to the Ohio Supreme.

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Speaker 4: Court if there are if they are appealed.

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Speaker 5: But I would note that the vast majority of these cases,

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Speaker 5: you know, end up settling because if you get into

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Speaker 5: the Court acclaims successfully, you've already kind of got a

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Speaker 5: leg up that you have a claim against against the state,

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Speaker 5: and so most of them, most of them do go away.

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Speaker 1: I think I hear you saying, Steve Gooden. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to put words in your mouth, but I think

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Speaker 1: I hear you saying he is going to get some

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Speaker 1: kind of a payday.

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Speaker 2: Is that accurate?

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Speaker 4: I would be surprised if he does not.

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Speaker 5: I mean, particularly if the if the decision here in

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Speaker 5: the local courts goes the way I presume it will go,

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Speaker 5: which is that he which is the you know, based

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Speaker 5: upon the prosecutor stance in this case, he was wrongfully convicted.

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Speaker 5: If he's declared to be wrongfully convicted, he's going to

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Speaker 5: go up to the Court of Claims, you know, really

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Speaker 5: with you know, with what the key issue decided. So

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Speaker 5: then it really is going to become more of a

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Speaker 5: question about what he is entitled to, whether or not

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Speaker 5: there should be a settlement, whether or not the Attorney

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Speaker 5: General's office is going to dig in and fight and

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Speaker 5: try to relitigate the issue of whether or not he

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Speaker 5: was wrongfully convicted. But all that's going to be pretty tough.

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Speaker 5: AG's office is going to be in a pretty tough space.

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Speaker 5: And most of these cases, the at least the ones

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Speaker 5: that I've certainly seen and been involved in, do end

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Speaker 5: up with some some sort of settlement, and sometimes very

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Speaker 5: generous ones.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking. That's probably what's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Who would have ever thought, you know, it is what

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Speaker 1: it is. I guess let me shift gears on you

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Speaker 1: just for a minute. President Trump has said over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of days, I think he said it two

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Speaker 1: or three times today, that he's thinking about bringing in

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Speaker 1: the Insurrect Act for what's going on in Minneapolis. Can

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Speaker 1: you explain a little bit what that is and what

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Speaker 1: it entails. I mean, I know it's federalizing the National Guard,

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Speaker 1: but he can also call in the army, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the regular army.

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Speaker 2: Can he not?

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Speaker 5: Well, it will be harder, I think, for him to

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Speaker 5: call in the regular army in Minneapolis. So, I mean,

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Speaker 5: you've got the Insurrection Act kind of works with the

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Speaker 5: Possi Kamatatis Act. So the Posse Commatatis Act just says, look,

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Speaker 5: you can't use federal troops against American citizens in domestic situations.

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Speaker 5: But then there are exceptions to that, and I mean,

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Speaker 5: you know, the biggest ones we've seen recently is you

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Speaker 5: can use regular federal troops to protect federal office buildings,

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Speaker 5: federal land and in the District of Columbia, which is

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Speaker 5: just a federal territory for lack of a better term.

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Speaker 5: So he has actually deployed regular troops there and you

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Speaker 5: need nothing, nothing else. The stickier question becomes when you

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Speaker 5: have a state situation where you want to federal the

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Speaker 5: National Guard. Typically the governor agrees to that. Under our system,

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Speaker 5: that's you know, if it's a natural disaster, hurricane relief efforts,

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Speaker 5: or you know, widespread rioting, which we've seen a couple

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Speaker 5: different times in our in our life style. As usually

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Speaker 5: the governor is the one saying, mister President, you can

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Speaker 5: nationalize the federalize the National Guards, and the men. To

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Speaker 5: federalize the National Guard over the objection of a governor,

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Speaker 5: which is the scenario I guess min Minnesota, you have

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Speaker 5: to show that the Insurrection Act applies an absent and

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Speaker 5: armed or rebellion or organized rebellion. That gets kind of tough.

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Speaker 5: So I think if you were to federalize the National

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Speaker 5: Guard into these circumstances. You know, I think it would

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Speaker 5: be a you know, it just would be a massive

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Speaker 5: court battle. And watching what Trump has done in the past,

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Speaker 5: I think he often threatens the Insurrection Act to try

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Speaker 5: to get better and more robust in for you know,

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Speaker 5: enforcement and action from the local law enforcement here. So

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Speaker 5: I'll be a little surprised if he goes through with it.

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Speaker 5: It seems to me the thing, if he was going

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Speaker 5: to do it, he would have already done it. But

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Speaker 5: this one's a tougher question. There's no federal land involved

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Speaker 5: that I can tell. There are federal agents. If they

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Speaker 5: went this way, saying that the federal agents justified it

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Speaker 5: by itself outside of the Insurrection Act, that would be

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Speaker 5: a new legal position that's never been litigated to my knowledge.

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Speaker 5: But you know, right now, you know, you're you're looking

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Speaker 5: at a purely state you know, state matter with a

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Speaker 5: governor who by all accounts is not going to uh

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Speaker 5: it's still walls, so he's not going to cooperate with that.

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Speaker 5: So we'll step to wait and see what happens. I'll

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Speaker 5: be a little surprised if he does it. It will

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Speaker 5: be a little bit of a stretch illegally. If he

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Speaker 5: went that way, but sometimes the mere threat of it,

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, can can provoke a different and

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Speaker 5: better response from the local authorities. That that's happened several

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Speaker 5: times during come second.

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Speaker 2: Term, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I would agree with you in a normal situation.

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Speaker 1: But I think there's something wrong with Walts. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I really do. Just some of the things

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Speaker 1: he says and what he does. I mean, he's worse

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Speaker 1: than Kamala. He contradicts himself in one sentence. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'll get off of that just

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Speaker 1: one more question.

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Speaker 5: He's an odd guy. I will conceive. He does not

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Speaker 5: inspire confidence.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Can you imagine him or even Kamala. You

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Speaker 1: don't have to answer this, and let you want to

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Speaker 1: in the big office there in the White House, with

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Speaker 1: all of this stuff happening.

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Speaker 2: All over the world. I mean, I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: shudder to think.

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Speaker 1: One last thing real quick, Steve, and I hope I'm

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Speaker 1: not kind of catching you. By surprise, Judge Jodi Luber's, who,

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Speaker 1: in my humble opinion, is a very good judge. She

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Speaker 1: ruled today that there will be no death penalty in

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Speaker 1: the Rodney Hinton case because I guess she made a

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Speaker 1: finding that he was criminally insane. Your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 1: It's very rare in Hamilton County.

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Speaker 2: I think it is.

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Speaker 4: You know, I was just wi that when you called,

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Speaker 4: and you're right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, you know, I I worked with with

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Speaker 5: Judge Luber's back when she was a prosecutor back in

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Speaker 5: the day, and I think, you know, she knows the law,

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Speaker 5: and I'm with you on that. I think she's a

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Speaker 5: good judge.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And really, as I understand it, and.

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Speaker 5: I've talked to a couple of lawyers involved in the case,

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Speaker 5: she didn't have any choice but to take the death

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Speaker 5: to the off the table at this point. I mean

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Speaker 5: the state expert, Yeah, their own expert, doctor O'Donnell, who's

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Speaker 5: been at this forever. You know, she apparently said, look,

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Speaker 5: there's no question he has a bipolar disorder, he has

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Speaker 5: schizophrenia and the impact of what he did.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And when the state's expert says that, you're in a

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Speaker 5: bad spot, so it doesn't mean they're not going to

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Speaker 5: proceed with the with the indictment. You know, he is

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Speaker 5: still facing life in prison. They did change the plead

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Speaker 5: and not guilty by reason of insanity, which at least

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Speaker 5: does raise the possibility of him getting out without serving

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Speaker 5: life if you gets treatment in some way. But she

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Speaker 5: really had her hands tied today under Ohio law. You know,

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Speaker 5: once all the psychiatrists say that the person has this issue,

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Speaker 5: there's really nothing that a judge can do under Ohio law.

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Speaker 5: Even if she imposed the death penalty, the appellate courts

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Speaker 5: would have would have struck it down because a mentally

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Speaker 5: ill person just cannot be put to death under Ohigo law.

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Speaker 2: Right, And it's pretty clear too. And I agree with

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Speaker 2: you on all of that.

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Speaker 1: Hey, really appreciate you taking time out of what is

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Speaker 1: turning out to be I'm sure a busy couple of days, Steve.

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Speaker 1: Really I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Mike, any time you take care?

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. Well, I'll tell you what that guy

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Speaker 2: knows the stuff.

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Speaker 1: And boy, there is just so much popping on the

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Speaker 1: legal front, especially locally, some unusual cases coming up. But

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Speaker 1: it is what it is, and as long as we

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Speaker 1: have somebody likes Steve to kind of explain it, I

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Speaker 1: think we'll be fine. Hey, we do have to take

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Speaker 1: a break for the new spot. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk Venezuela with Judd and mainly focus

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Speaker 1: on what President Trump can do or will do going

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Speaker 1: forward with that horribly mistreated country.

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Speaker 2: And we'll do that when we get back. Mike Allen

655
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Speaker 2: in for Willy seven hundred wlw.

656
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Speaker 1: Hey, we're back, Mike Allen in for the Great American

657
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Speaker 1: Willie Cunningham.

658
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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you, there is so much going on.

659
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Speaker 1: In the world in this's a country, and we're all

660
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: waiting to see what happens in Venezuela. I think somewhat

661
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: we're in some uncharted waters here, so people are kind

662
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: of waiting to see how this works out. You know,

663
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: we haven't had a lot of luck with reget regime

664
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Speaker 1: change in the past, but it sure seems like the

665
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: President has his act together on that. Here to talk

666
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: about it is jud Dunning. Jud wrote a really good

667
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: op edp in Newsmax Trump's Doctrine for Venezuela, Transition, Justice

668
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: and Order, and jud is a great guest.

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Speaker 2: He's been on a number of times with me.

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Speaker 1: He's a passionate and proud Los ANGELESO businessman, former entertainer,

671
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: and politico all the way going back to nineteen ninety three.

672
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: He's and I say. Every time I say this, I

673
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna get this book and read it. This

674
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: time I mean it. He's the author of the New

675
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: Human ex Newsmax book. I love the title thirteen and

676
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: a half reasons why not to be a Liberal and

677
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: how to enlighten others? Jud thanks so much for calling

678
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Speaker 1: in this afternoon.

679
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Speaker 6: I appreciate it. My only correction is I'm now Texan.

680
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, I've been.

681
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 6: A California for a one time. We go back and forth,

682
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 6: but Texas they drove us out.

683
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: They drove us out.

684
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 6: Good to be here.

685
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: You voted with your feet like a hell of a

686
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: lot of other people. Jud.

687
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 6: You know, hey, thanks, thanks my good good to be here.

688
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 6: Thank you for your word. Sir.

689
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: Uh your op ed was right on the money.

690
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Speaker 1: Can you kind of expound on it a little bit

691
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: and I'll probably have some specific question. Are you liking

692
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Speaker 1: what you see so far and what we're only what

693
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks into this thing?

694
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

695
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Speaker 6: I am.

696
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 5: You know.

697
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 6: Listen, America stands for freedom. We're reluctive intervention. But of

698
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 6: course we're gonna protect ourselves strategically. That's naive to think

699
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 6: that the whole doctor, and this whole idea that Trump

700
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 6: King and Trump is out of control ETCA. There's been

701
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 6: a long process under Tavis. We were you know, we

702
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 6: were working. He took three point two million barrels to

703
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 6: two point five, Mordureau took it down to like two.

704
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 6: Then he has it down to seven hundred thousand barrels.

705
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 6: I mean, the market's become so deteriorated for elitist to rise.

706
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 6: You have a million percent inflation to those poor people hostage,

707
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 6: you have hospital shortages of eighty percent. You've got seven

708
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 6: point nine people who have fled that. It's a humanitarian

709
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 6: national crisis. And we've been doing it legally, logistically, going

710
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 6: down the line, you know, pursuing this policy for a

711
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 6: long time. And it wasn't that Trump suddenly made some move.

712
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 6: You know. Of course we're looking at open borders. Of

713
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 6: course we're looking at, you know, the line of moral

714
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 6: absolutism of stalling the flow to America while we're here.

715
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Speaker 6: We have a different you know, nationalistic look at what

716
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 6: law is. But we're also fighting sense and all cocaine.

717
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 6: But the thing is, if you really understand what's going on,

718
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 6: the narco state that has formed there with all these

719
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 6: black gold exchanges, all the things it's going on with

720
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 6: the oil, all the thing that's going on the drugs.

721
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 6: They're actually fueling Columbia through all the illicit trade there.

722
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 6: They're tied into each other. And what we're doing is

723
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 6: we're stabilizing South America's deteriorative, destructive force on America while

724
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 6: actually standing up with the great people of Venezuela. That's

725
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 6: very just like Iran. This was a very prosperous origin

726
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 6: Continian like society. And we've been doing it legally and

727
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 6: legalistically proper for a long time. We've we've filed the

728
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 6: proper paperwork, we've worked within the international community, we've done sanctions,

729
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 6: we've put Maduro on call as a criminal. Everything was

730
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 6: actually done legally. But of course when Trump does it,

731
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 6: suddenly a monarchical crisis of the world. So, you know,

732
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Speaker 6: I thought it was important to get the facts out

733
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 6: of that situation. This has been going on since Chigo Chavis.

734
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Speaker 1: You stayed a really good case in the op edge.

735
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many things I like about it.

736
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Speaker 1: One just a sentence then as well to transformed from

737
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Speaker 1: an authoritarian governance into an organized criminal enterprise. Operating behind

738
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Speaker 1: sovereignties facade. A lot of big words in there, but man,

739
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Speaker 1: you hit the nail right on the head.

740
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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, And this isn't.

741
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Speaker 6: A normal transition. It's a real exposure of a state

742
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 6: that became an organized criminal enterprise. You know, Cavis nationalized,

743
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 6: purged the oil company. They're weaponized to all money and

744
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 6: loyalty systems. Capacity died from the inside. I mean, there's

745
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 6: so basically, you know, if you'll look at what we're

746
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 6: doing with the ships and putting in a line, there's

747
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 6: we definitely put the entire global drug cartel on Watch

748
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Speaker 6: what I loved. I think one of the greatest things

749
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 6: about the War Department. Once again, one of the things

750
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 6: that Trump got right. My next book, I've got it

751
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 6: out there. He's thirteen and a half reason of Love America.

752
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 6: It was about the two hundred and fifty you know,

753
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 6: years of beauty of what we have here. Now people

754
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 6: are ashamed to sit in our greatness. But we're talking

755
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 6: to our publishers about thirteen and a half half reasons

756
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 6: to Love Donald Trump and how he's been the greatest

757
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,479
Speaker 6: president of this United States. You know, I'm going back

758
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 6: and forth with these two proposals. They've got an option

759
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 6: in our next book, because if you really look at

760
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 6: it on paper, if you can get past the hyperbole,

761
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 6: he is a he is an elegant statesman. In the following,

762
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 6: what he'll do is he'll he'll give people a warning

763
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 6: with an over the top negotiation. He'll ask for the moon.

764
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 6: Like Greenland. We're not invading in Greenland, which is another Oh,

765
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 6: we've we've invaded. You know, we haven't invaded. We've we've

766
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 6: regulated and held accountable. Venezuela. We put everybody on watch.

767
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 6: And here's my point. In the War Department, they've actually

768
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 6: shown that we use sonic we use sonic weaponry. There

769
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 6: we went in with twenty helicopters. Three hundred people passed.

770
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 6: None of ours pass five hundred rounds a minute. The

771
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 6: elegance and execution that were taking place the weaponry, all

772
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 6: of the other cartels in Mexico are like, Wow, they've

773
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 6: always out paid and outgunned America. We just blew everybody away.

774
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Speaker 6: The example to let people know that we have the most,

775
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 6: you know, the most technically advanced military was also another

776
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 6: great message. Yes I'll tell you something. Sorry to talk

777
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 6: too long, but one we lost the family member to

778
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 6: fence and all, you know, and there is a war

779
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 6: on this country. I'm over thirty years. I had a

780
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 6: good I'm going to another memorial on Friday. This is

781
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 6: not a drug with weak people. There is a poison

782
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 6: flowing into our borders, and people are still dying left

783
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 6: and right, and in Texas, thank god, they're making it.

784
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 3: You know, if you.

785
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 6: Death by distribution, if you even touch fen and all,

786
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 6: it's murder. And they are flooding our country with the

787
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 6: most dangerous drug ever. So it's a serious time. And

788
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 6: I think we're sending a message to the cartels, not

789
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 6: on our time, not with Trump at the helm.

790
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Speaker 2: Jud you hit the nail on the head there too, buddy.

791
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: I mean.

792
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: I spent fifty one years in the criminal justice system,

793
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: twenty the last twenty. I'm retired now, thank god, as

794
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: a criminal defense lawyer, thank you. I mean, and I

795
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: see it all the time, and it's mainly fentanyl, but

796
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: also cocaine. I had three clients I might have told

797
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: you this already, three clients in one year die from

798
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: fentanyl over doses. And these weren't we know, like street

799
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: corner drug users. They were like middle class, solid people,

800
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: but for the addiction. And I don't think people appreciate

801
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: that when they start complaining about what Trump's doing blowing

802
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: up the boats. You know, let's see what you say

803
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: when it happens to one of your family members.

804
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: I think it's great what he's doing with that.

805
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 1: And you know what, every president since rich Richard Nixon

806
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: has said, we're gonna get tough on drugs, We're gonna

807
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: give you this, and he's the only one that's ever

808
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: really done anything.

809
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I can't write about it because I'm in

810
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 6: two court cases, but I can't talk about on the radio.

811
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 6: It's kind of hard to track. But I just put

812
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 6: somebody somebody. I got somebody they fled in the country.

813
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 6: I sent somebody in behind somebody. I got people back

814
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 6: to the United States thirty years, twelve counts of drug

815
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 6: related West LA sex trafficking and drug pedaling. And I'm

816
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 6: putting someone away. Turns out they're illegal immigrant going after

817
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 6: somebody else for another twelve million bucks. I mean, I

818
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 6: have a you know, when politics get personal. I was

819
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 6: on the radio and KM eight am seven ninety and

820
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 6: I remember there there was a guy saying, hey, you know,

821
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 6: the borders numbers are x under Biden. And actually remember

822
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 6: Obama was we're balanced people, right, we're rationalist conservatives. Obama

823
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 6: was a deporter in chief. He was too badly three million.

824
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Speaker 3: Peter.

825
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Speaker 6: Jaden's policy was he.

826
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Speaker 3: Was doing.

827
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Speaker 6: He was doing pretty good. Biden's like cultural Marxist change

828
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 6: of our our demographic was insane. And when we watch

829
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 6: those numbers go up, it's like four hundred percent. Centinel

830
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 6: went up in LA four hundred percent. And then I watched,

831
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Speaker 6: because I'm in the program very active. I say, I've

832
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 6: been sober since eighty seven, but I stayed a service

833
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 6: family and in that thank you sir, and in that movement,

834
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 6: I have seen just death after death after death, just exponentially.

835
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Speaker 6: It's not a joke. It's interesting though. I did do

836
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 6: some research on it. Some of the Biden era anti

837
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 6: Chinese policies where they started governoring themselves, did start to

838
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 6: slow down the war in America from China. But the

839
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 6: other countries are they're profit driven, They're not an ideology driven.

840
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 6: It's dark stuff. So I think Venezuela was just a

841
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 6: it's uncomfortable, right, we don't when we stand for freedom,

842
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 6: we take on the and I think this is the thing.

843
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 6: What's the playbook. Afghanistan was a nightmare, Yetnam we won

844
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 6: and we reversed it was a nightmare. Right we have Iraq.

845
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 6: We didn't grab the populist property. With enough strategy, America

846
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 6: does have the ability to do a transitional government to

847
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 6: support Dels Rodriguez, whoever we're gonna end up with and

848
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 6: return people to freedom. Now, what's the exchange. You do

849
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 6: leave a base behind, you do get grain security. You

850
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 6: don't do it for that, But it's an investment. You're

851
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 6: going to spend billions of dollars and we get, you know,

852
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 6: more protection to freedom in the world. And we have

853
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 6: to say, like, yeah, you know what, we do know better.

854
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 6: We do know better than China, we do know better

855
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 6: than Russia, we do know better than the Pan Islamic States.

856
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 6: We stand for something that's a little bit more special.

857
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: Well, and you mentioned this too, And I don't think

858
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: people realize the importance of this.

859
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: The checkmate of Red China.

860
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal today, if you get a chance,

861
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: there is a really good article about that. And apparently

862
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: they don't know what hit him, the Chinese because nobody

863
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: thought Trump would do this.

864
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 2: It's so important to have.

865
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Speaker 1: That part of that southern hemisphere be China and Russia free.

866
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: You know, can you and Joe Biden you ever hear

867
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Speaker 1: a word come out of his mouth about that? Nothing,

868
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Speaker 1: no forward thinking whatsoever. I don't think he was capable

869
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Speaker 1: of it.

870
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Speaker 6: I guess Look, I get up in the morning. I'm

871
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 6: sure a lot of us do. Since truck came in,

872
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Speaker 6: I said, I know, under work fifty five hours. I

873
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Speaker 6: probably works seventy.

874
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Speaker 1: Right.

875
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 6: I mean that guy, if he's gonna work that hard

876
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 6: for us, I'm gonna work that hard for us. I

877
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 6: mean that's you know, presidents, parents, pastors, and police, the

878
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 6: structure of society, and right now, everybody wants to make

879
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 6: this guy the enemy because he's proactive, he's bold, he's bombastic.

880
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 6: Well so is Paul Revere, right, so is Sam Adams.

881
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 6: We were rough and tumble guys in bars that just said, hey,

882
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 6: we can't take this anymore. All that started in the pubs, right,

883
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 6: I mean, our spirit is proud, patriotsic, rough and tumble,

884
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 6: and he negotiates strong and backs off to reality with

885
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Speaker 6: you know, by hiring the right people. There's no way

886
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Speaker 6: one person could do everything he does. He has a

887
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Speaker 6: good you know, he's a good cast of people. He

888
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 6: knows how to use people. That I heard something I

889
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 6: was in a I was in the film industry back

890
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Speaker 6: in the day, and they said, you know, a great

891
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 6: executive has no paperwork on his desk because he knows

892
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Speaker 6: how to hire the right people, right, And I think

893
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 6: that's what America is seeing. We're seeing the lot city

894
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 6: of execution, and we're not used to it. The left

895
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 6: would rather, you know, keep us in paperwork and you know,

896
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 6: the corporatism of bills that are just killing us with

897
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 6: inflation and making the elites rise to the top. And

898
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Speaker 6: I don't think that's happening right now. Last thing on

899
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Speaker 6: the on Venezuela. I mean, there's some interesting stuff going

900
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Speaker 6: on right now with Russia. They're posturing about, you know,

901
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Speaker 6: putting submarines out there to protect their paper tiger. Though

902
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 6: we definitely are dominant, you know. I think the thing

903
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Speaker 6: that the article I want to address was, you know,

904
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Speaker 6: what's the example to the world about with Russia and Ukraine,

905
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 6: China and Taiwan. This is not post colonial imperialism NOP.

906
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 6: This is standing for freedom. And this stuff about Greenland

907
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 6: all in fear right now, just hold on for a second.

908
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 6: Don't buy into that either. We did it legally there.

909
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 6: We have a base in Greenland, and we're there's no

910
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 6: way we're taking over a country and going to war

911
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 6: with NATO. We're playing chess. We're playing chess. And people

912
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 6: have to stay educated. And that's what I try to

913
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Speaker 6: do in this article, is like, look at the facts

914
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Speaker 6: of Venezuela, look at the facts of Greenland, look at

915
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Speaker 6: the facts of Mexico. Most of it is long form

916
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 6: stuff that existed before Trump was in office. It's just

917
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 6: policy execution that was stalled.

918
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Speaker 2: Yep.

919
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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I mean. I wake up

920
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Speaker 1: in the morning and read the newspaper, watch news, and

921
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: it's like, damn, it's great to be an American. In

922
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: many ways, we are back on the world stage. We're

923
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: not a joke anymore. I mean, Trump says he's gonna

924
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Speaker 1: do something, he does it. We got about two minutes

925
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Speaker 1: here left, jud and I hope you don't mind me

926
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Speaker 1: doing this.

927
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 2: But look in your crystal ball.

928
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: Let's just say, five maybe ten years down the road,

929
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Speaker 1: what do you see Venezuela looking like.

930
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Speaker 6: Well, it's interesting. I mean, it's gonna be slow transitional change.

931
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 6: It's difficult. I mean, they're already talking about you know

932
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 6: already it's far from perfect. You know, it's gonna be

933
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 6: a far from perfect structure. But I think the pet

934
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Speaker 6: the pet the pd DSA, the petro companies there, it's

935
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Speaker 6: gonna take time to clean them up, right, It's gonna

936
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Speaker 6: take time to put an infrastructure. We're gonna have to decide,

937
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 6: you know, how much of this that we're willing to

938
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Speaker 6: pay for. And look, you know, you don't pull back

939
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 6: like America has to know. It's an investment. But you know,

940
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 6: it's funny because the left is Kynesian, right, they'll just

941
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Speaker 6: grow government and Canesian spending works. It does stimulate the

942
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Speaker 6: economy in supply side. Lower taxation works, which is where

943
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 6: we're at now. But you know, a balance of investment

944
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 6: in the world stage. Listen. I think we're gonna see

945
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 6: a more stable South America. I think that we're gonna

946
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 6: see a destabilization of five years in Mexico. It's I mean, this,

947
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 6: this is me and I don't want to my wife's

948
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Speaker 6: have Mexican I go. I've been in Mexico thirty times.

949
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 6: I love it. I think they are other Americans. I

950
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 6: love them. You know, they're such hard working, great people.

951
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 6: I wish that Biden hadn't flooded our nation so deeply

952
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 6: with people from you know, below, from the South, because

953
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 6: I wish we'd had time to do panels in every

954
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 6: city with referrals and remove people one by one, but

955
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 6: the Left took that from us. I think we're gonna

956
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 6: see Venezuela as in lynch Pin an example, and I

957
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 6: think we're gonna have to We're gonna take on Mexico

958
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 6: and we're gonna see some different alliances form in that region.

959
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 6: It's gonna take time, it's gonna take patients, and it's

960
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 6: gonna hopefully we need to win that next election to

961
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 6: the right. We definitively need, hopefully a Rubio or advance

962
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 6: so we can continue the policy. If the policy flips

963
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 6: over to the left, well they can do what they.

964
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 3: Can do in Vietnam.

965
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 6: They can flip it over.

966
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: We can lose it.

967
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 6: So, you know, hopefully America continues a rational path for

968
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 6: stability for Venezuela.

969
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: I get it, Hey, we're out of time, but I

970
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Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, how can people get your book?

971
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972
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Speaker 1: You want to tell my listeners how to keep up

973
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974
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975
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976
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977
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979
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981
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982
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983
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984
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986
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987
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Speaker 1: There you go, Hey, Jud, I appreciate it so much,

988
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989
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Speaker 6: Thank you, all right, all right, thank you, Okay, thank you?

990
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Speaker 2: All right? Jud Dunning.

991
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Speaker 1: Man, that guy's on the money all the time. Hey,

992
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Speaker 1: I'm late for the news. Mike Allen in for Willie

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW Perre.

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Speaker 7: I'll answer any questions you guys want.

995
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996
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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, Seggie. What's going on in Mike? How you doing?

997
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Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good, all right.

998
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Speaker 7: We also want to thank Ron Larkin Junior for bringing

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Speaker 2: Four o two two two. Are on that world wide

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1010
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1011
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1012
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: Had our seg I do that all the time. I

1013
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Speaker 1: can attest to that. I get the kicking there all

1014
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: the time. I'm getting the ribs next time.

1015
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: There you go. College basketball.

1016
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 7: Last night, Mike, let's see, Cincinnati was up and by

1017
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 7: much as twenty one and never trailed, knocking off Colorado

1018
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 7: seventy seven sixty eight. So the Bearcats get earned their

1019
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 7: first Big twelve win of the season. One and three

1020
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 7: nine and eight overall number two Iowa State rolls into

1021
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 7: town Saturday afternoon. More on the Bearcats Tonight, West Miller

1022
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 7: Show live from the original Montgomery In at eight oh

1023
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 7: five after Sports Talk here on seven hundred WLW. Also

1024
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 7: yesterday last night, Trey Carroll twenty nine points, Zager beat

1025
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 7: Butler eighty nine to seventy five. Kentucky wins on a

1026
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 7: last second shot by Malachi Marino at the buzzer and

1027
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 7: nip LSU on the road seventy five seventy four Texas

1028
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 7: and Sean Miller upset tenth rated Vanderbilt last night. So

1029
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 7: now just three teams left in the college ranks undefeated

1030
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 7: at eighteen and zero Miami RedHawks.

1031
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 2: Arizona and Nebraska YEP.

1032
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 7: Tonight College action Detroit Mercy up against NKU at six

1033
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 7: thirty on ESPN fifteen thirty. Uh, there's NFL news apparently.

1034
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 7: I guess John Harball is headed off to the New

1035
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 7: York Giants and a one reported one hundred million dollars deep.

1036
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 2: Oh geez, nice work if you can get it. Hey, Huh.

1037
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 7: I guess they want they want to coach, and you're

1038
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 7: gonna have to pay for it.

1039
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: So what's Tomlin gonna do.

1040
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 7: Uh, probably, I don't think he's gonna coach this year

1041
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 7: this coming season. Probably go to tv S. That's I'm

1042
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 7: so Reds Fest Tomorrow. Don't forget Tomorrow and Saturday. It's

1043
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 7: a Convention Center. Show runs tomorrow three to ten thirty

1044
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 7: pm and then eleven am to six thirty on Saturday.

1045
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 7: And uh, let's see, there's gonna be current players there,

1046
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 7: former players, gonna be all kind of events, a convention center.

1047
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 7: Apparently the Convention Center is beautiful with the new renovations

1048
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 7: that they made.

1049
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 2: So it's Red's Fest.

1050
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 7: It's the first event in that And also speaking of

1051
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 7: the Reds, they have signed the number six ranked international

1052
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 7: prospect on Hell Nunez Junior out of the Dominican Republic

1053
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 7: for three million dollars. He's sixteen years old, hit three

1054
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 7: point fifty with nine stolen bases at the U fifteen World.

1055
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: Cup and got has he got any power?

1056
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 7: They said, he's the above average arm, average, advanced play, approach, strong,

1057
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 7: back to ball skills all we know about him, So

1058
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 7: we'll see what happens.

1059
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: He's got to get to he's got to get the

1060
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: Great American Ballpark.

1061
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 7: There you go, let's see FC Cincinnati with a couple

1062
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 7: of moves. H they have loan goalkeeper Paul Walters UH

1063
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 7: to a to a team in Ireland for the rest

1064
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 7: of the season, so he's austing. And also FC has

1065
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 7: acquired Brian Ramirez from Ecuador and from an Ecuadorian league

1066
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 7: and he's twenty five years old, so he gets a

1067
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 7: visa come in for the UH. He's a contract through

1068
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Speaker 7: twenty twenty.

1069
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 2: Nine, so there you go.

1070
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Speaker 7: And then also Monday, of course Martin Luther King Day,

1071
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 7: but don't forget elite teams are gonna tip off in

1072
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Speaker 7: a high school basketball Kemba Credit Union MLK Classic at

1073
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 7: the Centas Center Monday. The schedule is at noon Lakota

1074
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 7: West and Hamilton. That'll be following one forty five Ryle

1075
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 7: in Oldham County, Kentucky, and then Lakota East and Middletown.

1076
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 7: The Midies go out into three point thirty and then

1077
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Speaker 7: Saint X and Covecath at five point fifteen. You can

1078
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1079
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Speaker 1: There you go, there you go, Hey, you'd God of

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Speaker 1: darn it, seg Man, that's all right.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why I do that.

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Speaker 1: We talked a little bit before we went on the

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00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: air about pitchers and catchers reporting February of the ninth,

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00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: If my elder math is correct, that's only twenty five days.

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00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: And but when you get weather like this, and that's

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Speaker 1: what I think of, amen, it ain't that far away, right,

1087
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: and then Reds Fest will give you a little the

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00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: little taste of things, yep, baseball wise, because you'll get

1089
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: to see your heroes all in red the current team's

1090
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: going to be their alumni, broadcasters, coaches, manager Terry Francona,

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00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: and more so you get a little taste of baseball

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00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: suming up here in the middle of January.

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Speaker 2: So that's the way.

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00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 7: That's the way it was when it the Reds Fest

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00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 7: was in December, because they gave you that. That was

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00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 7: that little well, I guess respite between the end of

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00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 7: the season Reds Fest, and then right around the corner

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00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 7: was the Caravan. But they're not doing the caravan this

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Speaker 7: year because of the Convention Center. They're the first event

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Speaker 7: obviously as pretty the Convention Center, so they would have

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00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 7: been on the I think they would have been on

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Speaker 7: the caravan now, but that that was replaced by Reds Fest.

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00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 7: The caravan is going to come back next year. But

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00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 7: I think it it's going to give fans this weekend

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01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 7: little taste of Hey, baseball's right around the corner.

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01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: There, you don't worry about it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, let me ask you, do you think they helped

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01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: themselves in the offseason. I mean, they've got a lot

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01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: of players that.

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Speaker 7: Came in, but I still don't see, well the bullpen

1111
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 7: bullpen yet. But I'm thinking that bullpen has been worked on.

1112
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 7: But uh, they really haven't done anything so far with

1113
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 7: the offense. But they still have some time. So uh,

1114
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 7: you know, we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens,

1115
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 7: see what happens, and with with you know, with anybody,

1116
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 7: anybody that might be out there. There's a few, there's

1117
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 7: some guys still out there. Ahuenio Suarez, there's still available.

1118
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 7: Reese uh Hoskins first baseman, he was for the he

1119
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 7: was with the Phillies and with the Brewers. He's a

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01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 7: he's a good power bat.

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01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 7: So, I don't know, we'll see what happens. Any chance

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Speaker 7: Ahuanio comes back here. I don't know if if the

1124
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 7: money's right, they go anywhere. That's true, believe me, If

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01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 7: the money's right, and I mean, he was a beloved

1126
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 7: player here. I know he knows, he knows what's going on,

1127
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 7: but uh, you know, it all comes down to uh

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Speaker 7: whether you know, I mean, he gets a taste of winning,

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01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 7: and I know, I'm you know, they they only made

1130
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 7: the playoffs last year, but look at Kyle Schwarber. He

1131
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 7: stayed with the Phillies because they've been they've been a

1132
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 7: winner in the past, and I didn't want to go anywhere.

1133
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 7: So if they would have gotten Kyle Schwarber, they would

1134
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 7: have been I think in.

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01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: Business, I let me ask you, do you think we

1136
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: really came that close?

1137
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.

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01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 7: I mean, they they gave him an offer, and uh

1139
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 7: but I think that, you know, I mean, he he

1140
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 7: I think he kind of figured out that you know, hey,

1141
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 7: Philadelphia's Philadelphia's Philadelphia and they got a good team. And

1142
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 7: but he would have been a beloved figure here. Honestly,

1143
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 7: you know, I think that you know, they they they

1144
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 7: offered him the money, and you know, the Phillies stepped

1145
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 7: up and he's there. So I got you, man, That's

1146
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 7: the way it is. We'll see. So that's about it, Okay,

1147
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 7: seg thank you all. Right, Mike, very much, appreciate it.

1148
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 7: You got it, Mike, And in honor of a nice

1149
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 7: day here in the tri State, we leave you with

1150
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 7: the immortal words of the Stewod Report.

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Speaker 2: Thank you welcome, You're welcome.

1152
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what he said, say it a

1153
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: little bit, all right, thank you so much, Yes, sir man.

1154
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 2: All right, we're going to take a break, but we

1155
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 2: will be back.

1156
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: Mike Allen in for the Great American seven hundred WLW.

1157
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: They we're back, Mike Allen in for Bill Cunningham. Tell

1158
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: you what got the TV? Turned on the Fox and

1159
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: they are in Minneapolis live and it looks like that

1160
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,479
Speaker 1: you know what is going to hit the fan pretty soon.

1161
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: Just let me describe the scene for you those of

1162
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: you that can't get to a TV. They have lines

1163
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: of federal police officers. They're all wearing black uniforms. They

1164
01:02:55,400 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: have masks on, you know, the protective masks. These people

1165
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: are like right up in their face and I'm sure

1166
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: if those masks weren't there, they would be doing some

1167
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: spitting on the officers.

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01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 2: It's just unbelievable.

1169
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: And there's one person literally I'm not making this up

1170
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: and not exaggerating dressed in a clown outfit, which I

1171
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: think is appropriate, a full blown clown outfit with you know,

1172
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: with the multi colored hair and the clown outfit, and

1173
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: the dude is carrying a sign. The sign says nothing.

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01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: It is a hand giving the middle finger, but it's

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01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: upside down. Now, I guess that's supposed to mean something

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01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: to them. And then you got a couple a holes

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01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: walking around with the American flag upside down.

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Speaker 2: Now that is.

1179
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: A sign of distress or something like that.

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Speaker 2: You know what in this country is distressed. And if

1181
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 2: all of.

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01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: Them would just get on a slow boat to China,

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01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: we would not be as distressed. I have to tell you,

1184
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: I get the First Amendment. I think we have to

1185
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: make sure we protect There's that idiot clown with the finger.

1186
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: I gotta find out what that means. But you know,

1187
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: I get the First Amendment is important. But the hell

1188
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: with these people? I am sick and tired of it.

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01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: Don't they have jobs? I mean really, it's the same

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01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: ones you see over and over, and I don't think

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01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have time to get to it today.

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01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 2: I probably will Saturday.

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Speaker 1: There is now a congressional committee looking into who's funded Oh, shoot,

1194
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: there's a big fight. Somebody's beaten somebody over the head

1195
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: with them. No, this is two civilians going at it.

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01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: I guess maybe one of them is a real American

1197
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: who's had about enough too. So it's look, you know

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01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: what's already hitting a fan there. I would not be

1199
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: surprised at all if tonight Trump doesn't say enough enough.

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01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: President George H. W. Bush did this, called out the

1201
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: federalized the National Guard during the Rodney King riots. This

1202
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: isn't that bad yet. But Trump, excuse the pun, I

1203
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: mean nothing by it. He's got a pretty quick trigger

1204
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: finger on this stuff. So we'll have to see tonight

1205
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: what happens. But it's just I get it. You know,

1206
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm an American. We're all about peaceful protests and all this,

1207
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: but you get to the point where, come on, people,

1208
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: you've made your point. You've hurt your cause with most

1209
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: of the people in the country. Now, all the gang

1210
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: down at Starbucks, I'm sure while they're sipping their Frapatucci's

1211
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: talking about it. You know, they're a big deal there.

1212
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: But the rest of the country hates you and they

1213
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: are sick of you. But Professor did a good job.

1214
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: I suppose polluting your minds, which actually now starts in

1215
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: grade school unfortunately, and goes through high school certainly not

1216
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: might Beloved Elder High or Saint Excerpt, any GCL school

1217
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: like that. It just as an American who loves his country,

1218
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: this makes me angry.

1219
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 2: Enough is enough? Those officers there are enforcing the law.

1220
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Speaker 1: Not only is it their job to do it, it

1221
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: is their sworn duty to do their job. And if

1222
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: Joe Biden wouldn't have let in twenty million people into

1223
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: this country, it wouldn't be a problem. Donald Trump, about

1224
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: two months into office, stopped the people coming across the

1225
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: border cold and it really didn't seem like it was

1226
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: that difficult to do. You know, we're gonna be paying

1227
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: for this. We're gonna be paying for this for years.

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01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: It just I probably ought to have turned it off or

1229
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a heart attact. But if any thing happens,

1230
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: I want to make sure I can let all of

1231
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: you know. But well, I'll tell you what. Those Ice

1232
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: agents in their black uniforms, they look somewhat intimidating. I've

1233
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: got no problem with that. But they're wearing masks because

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01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: if they don't, well, Number one they can find their

1235
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: identities and dos them. That's happened before, so I'll keep

1236
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: you posted on all of this. Hey, we got to

1237
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: take a break, but when we get back, and we

1238
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: just talked to him a couple of days ago, but

1239
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: I want to talk to him again. Christopher Smithman the

1240
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati talking about this nonsense through Cincinnati City Council.

1241
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: They are going to vote coming up soon to say

1242
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: that they are with all these jokers up in Minnesota, Minneapolis,

1243
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: and what the hell's that got to do with the

1244
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati. Going to talk to Christopher about that

1245
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: and other things. We'll do that when we get back.

1246
01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 1: Mike Allen's seven hundred WLW.

1247
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 2: Two eight News.

1248
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 1: Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen in for Willie Cunningham today.

1249
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what as I said before, I'm watching Fox.

1250
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: They're live in Minneapolis, and the cops moved in more accurately,

1251
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: the ice officers, uniformed ice officers moved in, dispersed a

1252
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: little bit, but people are still hanging around in their face.

1253
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: These cops deserve a metal and more money for putting

1254
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: up with this. And guess what, we have a legislative

1255
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: body in this town who wants to say that they

1256
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: support all of this crap anyway, here to talk about

1257
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,520
Speaker 1: it is former vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati,

1258
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,879
Speaker 1: former chair of the Law and Public Safety Committee, Christopher Christopher,

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01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. I am I'm disappointed in the

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01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 3: mayor and the Vice mayor, and you know, any member

1262
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 3: of council who's you know, for passing resolutions saying that

1263
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 3: they don't support our federal officers out here, Ice officers

1264
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 3: who you know, by the way, you know, have right

1265
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 3: now the the toughest job in the country trying to

1266
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 3: enforce our immigration laws and and all of the lies

1267
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 3: that are being told. So I just want to want

1268
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 3: to share one of the big ones, Mike. The federal

1269
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 3: ice officers are focused on criminals, and anybody who says

1270
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 3: anything different they are lying, period. So when you look

1271
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 3: at disproportionately the number of people that they're focusing on

1272
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 3: are people who who have raped Americans, drivers who killed Americans,

1273
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 3: people who have robbed Americans, right, people who are engaged

1274
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 3: in human trafficking, you know, gang members with guns like

1275
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 3: they are going after the worst of the worst. And

1276
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 3: so to see people out saying they don't want those

1277
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:29,759
Speaker 3: people expelled from our country by somebody coming into my house.

1278
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 3: Mike and I prepare a dinner, right and they come

1279
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 3: in and they're just disrupting my entire dinner. I don't

1280
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 3: have the right to expel them from my home. You know,

1281
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 3: coming to America is a privilege. And so Number one,

1282
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 3: the people that are here, Mike that Ice is dealing with,

1283
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 3: they are the worst of the worst. Number Two, I

1284
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 3: want to say, the president that deported the most yeah

1285
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 3: illegal immigrants in the history of the United States of

1286
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 3: America was President Barack Obama.

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01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 2: Six million, six million.

1288
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't I say that it makes Democrats mad, Like

1289
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 3: that's a fact pattern Like President Barack Obama did not

1290
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 3: play when it came to expelling people who came to

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Speaker 3: the country illegally. Period. It's not President Trump's He can't

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Speaker 3: get rid of ten million people that came across the border,

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Speaker 3: so he's focused. Their teams are laser focused on those

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Speaker 3: who would kill a lake and Riley, Yes, right, they're

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Speaker 3: focused in on the worst of the worst. And I

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Speaker 3: just don't understand why this is why this is not

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Speaker 3: bipartisan Democrats, Republicans, independent everybody think good a gang member

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Speaker 3: from Venezuela in our country is bad for the United

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Speaker 3: States of America who did not come through the proper process.

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Speaker 3: Number two, once they violated American kill, an American drunk

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Speaker 3: driving kill, a family in a van, why are we

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Speaker 3: arguing that they should be expelled from the United States

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Speaker 3: of America.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 1: I scratched my head on that too, Christopher, And I

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Speaker 1: honestly think, and I'm watching it play out here, I

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01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: think people have had about enough of this crap.

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Speaker 2: I really do.

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Speaker 1: In their faces, the officers are wearing masks, not you know,

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Speaker 1: surgical mask, but an actual mask over their face.

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Speaker 2: And I know why, for two reasons.

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Speaker 1: They don't want their identity out there, because they'll get docs.

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Speaker 1: That's happened a lot before. Number two, they'll just spit

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Speaker 1: on them. It just it makes me sick. There's somebody here, Christopher,

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01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 1: it's almost humorous, literally dressed in a clown uniform with

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Speaker 1: the clown makeup and hair, carrying a sign with the

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Speaker 1: middle finger upside down. Now you know, I guess he

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01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: can explain what the hell that's supposed to mean. But

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Speaker 1: it's just I've had enough. I know that and then

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Speaker 1: they had insult to injury. As you say, this is

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Speaker 1: in the inquired yesterday, maybe today Cincinnati Council to vote

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Speaker 1: on resolution condemning ice killing.

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Speaker 2: Now what do they know about it?

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Speaker 1: And by the way, yesterday you might have seen it,

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Speaker 1: and I'll shut up here in a minute.

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Speaker 2: You might have seen it.

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Speaker 1: That officer went the officer that was hit by the

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Speaker 1: car a week or so ago, he went to the hospital.

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Speaker 1: He had some serious, some fairly serious injuries. But our

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Speaker 1: city council, with all the problems in the city of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: this is what they want to work on. So many

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Speaker 1: times during this year, Christopher Smithman, and all years that

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Speaker 1: I've been talking to you, you have said that how

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Speaker 1: much you are against a legislative body of municipality weighing

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Speaker 1: in on a federal issue that they have nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with.

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Speaker 3: That is absolutely the truth. Charter the Charter Committee should

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01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 3: be out right now, yep, taking a position because this

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01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 3: is at their core, this is not good government. But

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01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 3: let me also just play politics with it, okay, okay.

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01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 3: So not only are they passing a resolution that has

1342
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 3: nothing to do with them, okay, and they don't even

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01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 3: have a fact pattern to know with what they're saying

1344
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 3: is true. They do, but they're not even doing a

1345
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 3: good job at what they're supposed to be focused on.

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Speaker 3: That's number two and number three. Where's the resolution on

1347
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 3: the girl who was eleven, who was murdered on that

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Speaker 3: playground two weeks ago?

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Speaker 2: Amen?

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Speaker 3: Where's that? Where's the resolution saying I condemn violence that

1351
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 3: they hit and father who ran over that. That's your business, now,

1352
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 3: that's your constituent. He killed a sheriff while in the

1353
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:12,759
Speaker 3: city of Cincinnati at a University of Cincinnati graduation. Where's

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01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 3: that resolution saying I condemn that behavior? See when it's

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01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 3: right at home, Mike Allen, they don't have resolutions that

1356
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 3: deal with the business. If you're gonna pass something, you

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01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 3: would think, oh, man, we're gonna condemn a person who

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01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 3: took their car and ran over a sheriff who is

1359
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 3: out directing traffic. No, because we have a council. Bottom line,

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01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 3: they don't like cops. They don't like they don't like

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Speaker 3: FBI agents, they don't like the DEEA. They don't even

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01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:50,640
Speaker 3: like their local police department, which is why it's difficult

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Speaker 3: for us to recruit and retain officers. That's why our

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01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 3: police officers who are in drop, two years in to drop,

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01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 3: three years into drop, they could stay eight years in

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01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 3: the drop, and they are leaving in drove because they

1367
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 3: are tired of councils like this, mayors like this who

1368
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Speaker 3: are passing resolutions that are absolutely anti police, anti cop,

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01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 3: anti FBI agent at, anti law and order. And Mike Allen, look,

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01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 3: elections have consequences. Let me call out the inquirer, Mike Allen,

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01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:32,719
Speaker 3: because they kept running the ad that said Corey Bowman

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Speaker 3: jd Vance's brother. What did that have to do with anything?

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01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 3: They were in the can for the current mayor and

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01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 3: they put their finger on the scale. They didn't have

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01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 3: to keep saying over and over and over again that

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01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 3: Corey Bowman was the brother of the current Vice President

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Speaker 3: of the United States of America. But by the way,

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Speaker 3: I just want to tell every voter in Cincinnati if

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01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 3: we had a brother, would not that be good for

1380
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 3: the city of Cincinnati. That we have a direct connection

1381
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 3: to the white out meaning we don't even understand basic politics.

1382
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 3: Do like I'm going, well, that would be the person

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01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 3: I'd want sitting in that chair because that person can

1384
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 3: call the Vice president and say we need to get

1385
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 3: the Western Hills by the we got to get something

1386
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 3: fixed down here. We need some federal dollars. Can you

1387
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 3: help us out. I don't get our politics in Cincinnati

1388
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 3: like we cut off our nose despite our faith. At

1389
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 3: the end of the day, this mayor and the vice

1390
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 3: mayor and all members of council are playing politics because

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01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 3: they are now positioning themselves, meaning jam Michelle Kearney is

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01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 3: positioning herself to run for mayor, Mayor Pureval is positioning

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01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 3: himself to run for Congress, run for governor, run for senator.

1394
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 3: And they're trying to signal to their base. Guess what,

1395
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 3: at the detriment of cops, law enforcement, law and order,

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01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 3: our safe, their own political careers. That's what they're doing.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I singled out last week for

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01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 1: praise a couple of city councilmen who came out strongly

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01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,679
Speaker 1: about giving the Hint and family any money, Seth Walsh

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01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: and Jeff Kramerding. And I thought that was a profile

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01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: encourage for those two guys. I really did. I'm surprised

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01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: that they're a part of it, but you know what,

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01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 1: do I know? But I was disappointed in that.

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01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:35,520
Speaker 3: Look this right now, the blue dog Democrats, the Charlie Lukins,

1406
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 3: the Tom Lukens of the world, the John Cranley's of

1407
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 3: the world. Their party has been hijacked by this lack

1408
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 3: of common sense. Let's defund the police. Let's reimagine the police.

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01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 3: Let's hire Irish Rowlie. They are six hundred and fifty

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01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 3: thousand dollars and nobody knows really what she's doing or

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01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 3: what the ROI is on what she's delivering to our

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01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 3: city with my money. They're taking my money out of

1413
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 3: my check and they're sending it down there. My point

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01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 3: to everybody listening is the election we just had has consequences,

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01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 3: and so when you look at the fifty two neighborhoods,

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01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 3: they overwhelmingly voted for this. So maybe they love it

1417
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 3: as as you know, as you say, if you love it,

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01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 3: I like it. I mean, this is the insanity of

1419
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 3: what we're dealing with, Mike Allen, where a council will

1420
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 3: go down in the middle of something that they have

1421
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 3: nothing to do with, nothing to do with, say, we're

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01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 3: going to pass a resolution on by the way, an

1423
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 3: officer who was about to be run over by car

1424
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 3: and took out his weapon. Now I'm not talking about

1425
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 3: the videos where you see someone on the side. I'm

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01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 3: feel with the video that I've seen where the officer

1427
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 3: is in the front of that vehicle, it is not

1428
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 3: a slam dunk to say, oh man, hey, this officer

1429
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 3: didn't have the right to pull their weapon. So in

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01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 3: this case, here's what I want you to hear, Mike

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Speaker 3: Allen into a listening audience. If this is what they're

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01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 3: doing to ice ages. So I'm talking about our council

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01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 3: and our mayor. They're signaling to every police officer in Cincinnati,

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01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,719
Speaker 3: we will throw you under the busy yep.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. When the two council members I mentioned I'm

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01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: not gonna mention it again, they came out strong and

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01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: one of them, I forget which one said specifically, you know,

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01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 1: we don't want to do this because we don't want

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01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 1: to rub it in the cops face.

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01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.

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01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: It is two different issues, but it just kind of

1442
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 1: surprised me talking about spending city money. I don't know

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01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 1: if you saw, Christopher, it was in the inquiry this morning.

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01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 1: City agrees to one point four to five million settlement

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01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: with family of kwandavi Or Hicks that was an officer

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01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,759
Speaker 1: involved shooting from back in twenty fifteen where the officer

1447
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 1: was cleared seven ways from Sunday. Now it's not the

1448
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 1: eight million that they're talking about with him, but I

1449
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it's a smaller amount, but I

1450
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 1: still think it sends wrong message.

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01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 3: Twelve in the box, Yeah, why not in the box? Attorney, Yeah,

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01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:12,679
Speaker 3: in the box.

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01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 2: That's what I mean.

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01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 3: All we gotta do is say, hey, let's bring some

1455
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 3: voters together, some people who are going to be jurors.

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01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 3: Let them hear the case, let them decide the case.

1457
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 3: And you have these activists, prosecutors, activists, judges, activist members

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01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 3: of council playing with our money. Meaning if if Judge

1459
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 3: Barrett said listen, I don't really see something here, it

1460
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 3: went to a higher court that came back to Judge Bartt.

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01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 3: Judge bart said, I still don't see anything here. Let's

1462
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 3: have a trial. Let's put twelve people in the box

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01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 3: and let them decide. Why do we keep giving money

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01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 3: to people who have guns pointing them at officers. By

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01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 3: the way, nine to one one calls were made, those

1466
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 3: officers were called to that scene, Mike Allan, they didn't

1467
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 3: just stumble upon it. I bet you there's case law

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01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 3: out there that says if I see somebody robbing a

1469
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 3: bank and they run into an apartment, I can chase

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Speaker 3: after them.

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Speaker 2: They can I see them.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just trying to figure out. I don't know

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01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 3: all the circumstances of this case, but something tells me

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01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 3: that twelve in the box would say, man gun pointed

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01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 3: that officer. We're not gonna give somebody one point four million.

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01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 3: What we have is we have an activist counsel and

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01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 3: an activist mayor. They believe in criminal justice reparations. Right,

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01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 3: this is what you're watching right in front of us here.

1479
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 3: And they don't want twelve in the box. They want

1480
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 3: to decide in the smoky rooms. And this is just figuratively.

1481
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 3: They're down in their rooms away from us, cutting out

1482
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 3: these deals and then surfacing them. And they're gonna be

1483
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 3: a lot of them, Brough. It is not just one

1484
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 3: to eight point one. We've got the one point four.

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01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna have the hinting they're coming behind us. And

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01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 3: then I want to make sure I say this to you,

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01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 3: Why are they trashing TGI keithg Why are they trashing

1488
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 3: Chief Washington? So let's go through this. So they're throwing

1489
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:23,799
Speaker 3: the cops, their leadership, the fire department leadership, chief Shermon,

1490
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 3: They're throwing all of them under the bus and saying,

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01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 3: we're gonna fight, we want to appeal, We're gonna bring

1492
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 3: our lawyers down here. Let's go to trial. We don't

1493
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 3: want to pay anything out for them. But then we

1494
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 3: see criminals with guns pointy at officers and they say,

1495
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:39,560
Speaker 3: let's give them all the money.

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01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't make any sense to me, Christopher, But

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01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 1: unfortunately we're out of time here. I really did want

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01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,480
Speaker 1: to get your perspective on this, and it's always.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, brother, thanks for having me on Okay.

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Speaker 3: People can follow me on social media on x at

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Speaker 3: vote Smitherman. It's important to follow me there like minded,

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01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 3: so between these I can share with you where I

1503
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 3: am on some of these subjects. Thank you Mike Allen

1504
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 3: for having me on Okay.

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01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,759
Speaker 1: Thinking about you today, Christopher, Thank you Okay, Thank you, bye.

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01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 2: Bye oh man.

1507
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: That man knows how to lay the cheese on the crackers,

1508
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 1: if you will. It's just it's unbelievable to me that

1509
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 1: council would do that. They have, like Christopher said, they

1510
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: have absolutely zero nothing not to do with this and

1511
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: with all the issues facing the city of Cincinnati, you

1512
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: know they're going to do this. I remember, I gotta

1513
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: tell this story. You only take a second or two.

1514
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 3: Uh.

1515
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,759
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, the Vietnam War was blazing.

1516
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 1: I was a young young kid, and they did the

1517
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: same damn thing down there, and there was one council

1518
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: member who did not vote on it and said things

1519
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 1: like Christopher just said. His name was Guy Guckenberger. I

1520
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 1: wrote him a letter, God, I wish I still had it,

1521
01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 1: saying thank you, council Member Guckenberger for taking the position

1522
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 1: that you took. And he responded to me, that's a long, long,

1523
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 1: long time ago. It's the same thing though. Hey, listen,

1524
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 1: got to take a break, but we will be back.

1525
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: Mike Allon in for Willie's seven hundred WLW.

1526
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 2: At some point, the foolishness has got to stop.

1527
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 8: Oh hello, quiet, I'm broadcasting.

1528
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 7: The rock is here. I am honored, Mike. How you doing.

1529
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm great, brother, I'm doing good Man right

1530
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 2: a rock and roll here?

1531
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Well, I've got the Fox News turned on you.

1532
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: We've been watching that damn riot all day, and b

1533
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: I think they're getting close now.

1534
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 2: I like the guy in the clown suit.

1535
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 7: I was telling Rocky the other guy looks like a

1536
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 7: giant orange or something. I don't know. They must have

1537
01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 7: sent him up from Florida or something. I don't know

1538
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 7: he's but he's acting like a peacemaker. The rest of

1539
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 7: them are I don't know.

1540
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 9: If you had to typecast the people that are protesting,

1541
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 9: it's the predominant group is white liberal women for some reason.

1542
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 7: And then yeah, then just people in just to get

1543
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 7: on or stuff social media or something. Why is that

1544
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 7: they got purple hair though? You know what, they don't

1545
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 7: have anything else to do. I guess, rock I don't know.

1546
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 7: I mean, somebody you look into. You know, these are

1547
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 7: not organic protests.

1548
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 9: Every everyone talks about all like you can go out

1549
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 9: there and voice your opinion that okay, yeah, but this

1550
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,480
Speaker 9: is not organic. It's not a bunch of concerned citizens

1551
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 9: that showed up and said, hey man, we gotta we

1552
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 9: gotta stop this.

1553
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 2: We think this is an injustice. Were we to do. No,

1554
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 2: this is this is fully funded, paid for the whole

1555
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 2: nine Hey commerce is doing that? Yeah?

1556
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I hopefully they come out with a

1557
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: finding audit. My guess is George Soros is at the

1558
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: end of that money bun them.

1559
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, what they you know, they set up a shell

1560
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 9: company that has another shell company that you know is

1561
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 9: something like Progressforward dot org or something, and and and

1562
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,799
Speaker 9: and they going to do these things under the shadow

1563
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 9: of some you know, different different companies, and.

1564
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,759
Speaker 2: They do these things. It's it's awful. It's completely awful.

1565
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 9: Like I couldn't imagine being an I say, and they're

1566
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 9: they're they're there to you.

1567
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 2: Know, do their job, which is to uphold the law.

1568
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 9: It is law in this country, right and and and

1569
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 9: you know they they get these people get in front

1570
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 9: of them, right next to them with a bullhorn and

1571
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 9: scream in their ear, call them f words, calm names,

1572
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 9: block them in with cars. There's organized ways they block

1573
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,679
Speaker 9: them in with cars. And and you expect these people

1574
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 9: not to not to react back a little bit with

1575
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 9: a little bit of hostility.

1576
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 1: Come on, Well, back in the day, it would have

1577
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 1: been a hell of a lot worse. But that's neither

1578
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 1: here nor there, I guess, Yes.

1579
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,719
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Speaker 7: three six seven h E A T Sports Finally, winners

1583
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 7: last night all over the place, Rock you see wins,

1584
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:13,719
Speaker 7: Xavier wins, Kentucky wins and on a last second basket

1585
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 7: and then there's only three left undefeated in America Arizona yes,

1586
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:24,520
Speaker 7: Nebraska yes, and the Miami RedHawks.

1587
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 2: And I'm not fantastic.

1588
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,879
Speaker 9: What are they rank when ones that come out Monday,

1589
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 9: they're just outside of the top twenty five twenty.

1590
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, they they should be in any way, if you're

1591
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 7: eighteen and oh, I don't care what conference you're in.

1592
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 7: I don't care what it is. Win a baby games

1593
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 7: and not thank you. I don't care what conference you're in.

1594
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 7: Rank them. You know it's not Duke or nothing. But hey,

1595
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:48,600
Speaker 7: you know what eighteen and oh is eighteen and oh,

1596
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:52,719
Speaker 7: preach it. I hear you Tonight in college basketball Detroit

1597
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 7: Mercy and NKU at six thirty on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1598
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 7: Radsfest coming up starting Tomorrow night. They beautiful New Convention

1599
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 7: Center Downtown three pm to ten thirty Tomorrow night and

1600
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 7: then Saturday eleven am to six thirty pm. Current the

1601
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 7: whole currents the roster, will be their managers, broadcasters, everybody

1602
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 7: will be there. Red's today signing their number six rank

1603
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 7: international prospect on Hell Nunez junior out of the Dominican

1604
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 7: Republic for three million dollars. Sixteen years old oh Man

1605
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 7: hit three point fifty in the U fifteen World Cup. Recently,

1606
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 7: let's see, FC Cincinnati's been busy. They send off homegrown

1607
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 7: goalkeeper out of Westchester, Paul walters A, to an Irish club,

1608
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 7: Bohemian FC, for the rest of the year. How about

1609
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 7: that little change of scenery there for him? And then

1610
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 7: they also FC has acquired Brian Ramirez from one of

1611
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 7: the top leagues in Ecuador. Apparently a pretty good player there,

1612
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 7: so we'll see what happens. Set ten goals and seventeen

1613
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 7: assists in South America.

1614
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 2: So that's what they need, is goal scorer.

1615
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: I have a question, what does a sixteen year old

1616
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: do with a million bucks?

1617
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 2: Mom and dad probably get their hands on it, I guess.

1618
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,719
Speaker 7: So, I mean, you know, buy a lot of shoes

1619
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 7: and iPods and and get and get a lot of friends. Yeah,

1620
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 7: a lot of people all of a sudden the other

1621
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 7: night come out of the woodwork.

1622
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:27,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 9: Hopefully they put that money in an account, somebody manages

1624
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 9: it for him and they rediscovered at like age thirty.

1625
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 2: Yep, amen to that. Yes, So that's all that's going on.

1626
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:41,640
Speaker 7: I guess So what John Harball looks like he's going

1627
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 7: to the Giants one hundred million dollar deal, So I

1628
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 7: guess now the dominoes are going to start falling. Stefanski,

1629
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 7: I don't think Tom was not going to do anything.

1630
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 9: He was the best candidate that was available out there,

1631
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 9: and I'd say the best job you could argue is

1632
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 9: the Ravens. He's obviously not going to Ravens. So the

1633
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 9: next job Giants Jackson Dart, that.

1634
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 7: Quarterback, young quarterback who's good, Molik Neighbors, good, young wide

1635
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 7: receiver Cam Scattaboo, great young running back. I think they

1636
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 7: have the is it the fifth overall pick, and so

1637
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 7: they're gonna pick it within the top five of every round.

1638
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 7: I think their offensive line is young and has some holes,

1639
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 7: but they add a few there all of a sudden,

1640
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 7: that could be a ten win team next year.

1641
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:29,600
Speaker 2: It's like that with that guy in charge. I believe it.

1642
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 3: Rock.

1643
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 1: What is Tomlin gonna do you think go in the

1644
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 1: booth for a while. I think we'll go in the

1645
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 1: booth for a year.

1646
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 9: Every company would have him anyone or they're probably knocking

1647
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:43,559
Speaker 9: him down trying to get his services to do that.

1648
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 2: And then a lot of what a lot of these

1649
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 2: coaches do.

1650
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 7: We talked about this yesterday, is you know, while they're

1651
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 7: doing the TV job, Arra Myers talk about this. You know,

1652
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 7: you get to visit with sure different franchises and they

1653
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 7: open the doors and you get to see their players

1654
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 7: and talk to the GMS and talk to the coaches

1655
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 7: and talk to this guy and that to get a

1656
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 7: look under the hood of all these teams and talk

1657
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 7: about him. And while you're getting paid, you know, likely

1658
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 7: millions of dollars, you're gearing up for the next job.

1659
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 7: I think he does it for a year and then

1660
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 7: whatever I mean, was there nine NFL of eight head

1661
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 7: coach vacancies. There'll be another eight or nine next year

1662
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 7: and he'll have his pick and he'll find the team

1663
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 7: that has the best quarterback in place, the best salary

1664
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 7: cap situation, and he'll coach them, and I think he'll

1665
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 7: do a great job.

1666
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 2: Where's Marvin Lewis these days?

1667
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 4: I should know?

1668
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:33,639
Speaker 2: I know that Hugh Jackson games on the radio. Jackson

1669
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 2: was at Georgia State.

1670
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 9: I know that I had them, but last time I checked,

1671
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 9: Marvelis was at Arizona State.

1672
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 7: But okay, I think he did a h I think

1673
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 7: he did a Bengals game for Westwood One on the radio,

1674
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,759
Speaker 7: when on a when over on a road game last

1675
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 7: year or this year this past year, I think because

1676
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 7: he was at I think one of the I can't

1677
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 7: remember which one it was, but I think he was

1678
01:32:57,640 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 7: doing the color commentary on it.

1679
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 2: So I don't know mm HM as an analyst.

1680
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 4: So uh.

1681
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 9: It says as of twenty twenty four, he was an

1682
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 9: assistant coach with the Raiders, but I don't know what

1683
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 9: he what he is recently doing.

1684
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 2: Well, they come and go, I guess yep.

1685
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 9: It's a very sick if they cycle him in and out. Man,

1686
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 9: it's one of the toughest jobs in America and it's

1687
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 9: the best, the best, and you know.

1688
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 2: I can't imagine. I mean, geez, I.

1689
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 9: Had a lot of pressure, lozed stress, but lots of reward.

1690
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,919
Speaker 9: And there's only thirty two of those jobs. So everyone's

1691
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 9: always like all the Browns jobs are terrible. I wouldn't

1692
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,679
Speaker 9: take it. If I was Dan Pitcher, I would. There's

1693
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 9: only thirty two of them in the whole world. So

1694
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 9: you got to take the job. Even if the quarterback

1695
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 9: situation ain't great, even with the you know, the Cleveland

1696
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 9: Browns management not a great situation. You got to take

1697
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 9: the job if you get it, because how many opportunities.

1698
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 7: You're gonna get and how many times are his job

1699
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 7: is gonna come open? If he would go, you got

1700
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 7: to do it. If they if he would go, do

1701
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 7: they bring Callahan back here? Brian Callahn. I don't think

1702
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 7: he's been picked up by anybody. He got let go

1703
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 7: from Tennessee, right, I think so? Yeah, I don't know,

1704
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 7: bring him back? I mean college is different.

1705
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 9: I always think that's the fascinating argument of when, and

1706
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 9: I've seen it over the last decade or more calling

1707
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 9: games of when do you take that next job? When

1708
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 9: are you, as a you know, head coach of a

1709
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 9: of a group of five school, do you take that

1710
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 9: lead to the power forward job? And is which power

1711
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 9: forward job? Is it the right one? And sometimes you

1712
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 9: you you take a bigger job and it works out

1713
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 9: and you you do well, and then you go up

1714
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 9: even higher and then sometimes you go to a place

1715
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:42,600
Speaker 9: where it's very tough to win, you can't get the resources,

1716
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 9: and you don't win, and then you go right back

1717
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:46,719
Speaker 9: down and you know you want to should I have waited?

1718
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 9: It's a very very tough balance.

1719
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 2: That they lead there.

1720
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 1: I can't believe what's happened to college football with the

1721
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,560
Speaker 1: money going back and forth with the players, and I

1722
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 1: wonder how sustainable it is, you know, like really when

1723
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 1: and you know what was Oregon's roster like thirty million

1724
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 1: this year?

1725
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 7: You know Texas was around thirty Like how long? How

1726
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 7: long is that sustainable? And at what point do I

1727
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 7: mean a rosters in a couple of years? Are they

1728
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 7: fifty million? Are they eighty million?

1729
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:14,640
Speaker 2: And you hear a lot.

1730
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 9: I've been hearing a lot about some of these donors,

1731
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 9: especially the high profile donors that are given this nil money.

1732
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 9: You know, if you're a donor of a university, you

1733
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 9: are you are a fanatic about that university. You want

1734
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 9: people to love that place the way you've loved it

1735
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 9: for years and decades. But these players don't. They're there

1736
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 9: for a year and then maybe it gone. A lot

1737
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 9: of times I don't even say thanks Troy Aikman was.

1738
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 9: He gave money to UCLA's nil and he said, I'm

1739
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 9: never doing it again.

1740
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 2: So I gave out some money.

1741
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 7: He goes and I never heard from the guy that

1742
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 7: never said thanks, never nothing and left. Well in Miami

1743
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 7: did the same thing, right, They had their quarterback leave

1744
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 7: and they put a freshman in there for the for

1745
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 7: the rest of the season. Their guy at the RedHawks left.

1746
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, the kwan Finn left. Yeah, he left, so

1747
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, and he what three or four

1748
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 7: million bucks or whatever it was, he said, see you later.

1749
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 7: I got the money, see you a Miami and moved

1750
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:07,559
Speaker 7: on to someplace else.

1751
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 2: I think, I don't know.

1752
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 9: Hopefully they get to recoup some of that money because

1753
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:12,799
Speaker 9: the corn fin did not in fact finish the season

1754
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 9: with the Right Hawks, so there should be some sort

1755
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 9: of repercussion.

1756
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 7: And apparently I guess in part of his deal, Brendan

1757
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:22,280
Speaker 7: Soresby has to give back a million bucks to U.

1758
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 4: See.

1759
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 2: I think that should I think they should have that.

1760
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 9: I have long thought that if especially if you're all

1761
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 9: like a group like a G five school, and say

1762
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 9: you're Toledo, right, and you're a great player, and you

1763
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 9: go on and you take a million dollar nil deal

1764
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 9: at Ohio State. Okay, Toledo should get compensated something for

1765
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 9: losing a player something.

1766
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what exactly the number is.

1767
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 9: But it's so hard for those schools because you know,

1768
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 9: you go and you know you're not if you're at Toledo,

1769
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,679
Speaker 9: for instance, you're not recruiting and getting four and five

1770
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 9: star guys for the most part, right, Okay, you're getting

1771
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:00,679
Speaker 9: like a you're finding a diamond the ruck. You're finding

1772
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 9: a two star guy or a three star guy with potential,

1773
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 9: and then you go there and you help develop that

1774
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 9: potential for two years, and your reward if they go

1775
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:10,799
Speaker 9: somewhere else as you get something in return.

1776
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would think, I mean health, they're using their

1777
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 1: image and like this. Now I've heard it's even coming

1778
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 1: down to the high school level.

1779
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 2: Now what is and I is legal?

1780
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 9: It's now in forty six states, right yeah, And I'm

1781
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 9: telling you I don't I can't confirm it, but I

1782
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 9: know it's happening. There are schools around that I know

1783
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 9: right now that are losing players to other schools.

1784
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 2: And you went, why are they going to that school?

1785
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 7: I can't can't say exactly who yet, all right, but

1786
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 7: I'm just saying it's going on. But what about the

1787
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:44,799
Speaker 7: little Rocks and your Super Bowl teams? Is the nil

1788
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 7: boys that showed up there lately? We're entertaining offers as

1789
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:51,800
Speaker 7: we speak. Okay, all right, here we go speaking of this.

1790
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:53,680
Speaker 7: We're gonna talk about this on the show here. But

1791
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 7: two different crazy portal situations.

1792
01:37:59,439 --> 01:37:59,719
Speaker 1: TJ.

1793
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 9: Finley is a quarterback. He was at Georgia State last year.

1794
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 9: He is in his seventh year and is signing with

1795
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 9: his seventh school or something about that.

1796
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 7: Wow, maybe he's going to have a big man cave

1797
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 7: and there's rock with all the jerseys on the wall.

1798
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 2: Ye really seven and seven.

1799
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 7: There's another quarterback here that we'll talk about. I'll give

1800
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 7: you more more details later. But he's on his fifth

1801
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 7: college and six years and his eleventh different school in

1802
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 7: ten years.

1803
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 2: Geez, that's.

1804
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 1: That's like a journeyman baseball player. You know, one one

1805
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 1: season here with somebody, then the next one that's nuts.

1806
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 1: I mean, can they theoretically, I guess, get in the

1807
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 1: transfer portal anytime they want.

1808
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:42,639
Speaker 9: Well, the problem is that it keeps going to court.

1809
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 9: And that's what's going on right now with you know,

1810
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 9: like Diego Pavia. Right, he's the quarterback of Vanderbilt. Well,

1811
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:49,600
Speaker 9: he played a couple of years at a at a

1812
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 9: JUCO school. Well he's saying, well, you know, I should

1813
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 9: be able to you know, retain those two years to

1814
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:58,640
Speaker 9: be able to play at the FBS level. Because and

1815
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:00,680
Speaker 9: then then it goes to court, and usually what they

1816
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 9: say is, well, you're inhibiting my client's ability to make

1817
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:06,560
Speaker 9: a living. And that's how they keep getting their you

1818
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 9: know what kicked in court. It hasn't been settled yet

1819
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 9: with with uh, with what's gonna happen with Pavia, But

1820
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,120
Speaker 9: that's that's what happens, is they always make the case

1821
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 9: in the n C double A just keeps.

1822
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:18,760
Speaker 7: Losing that while you're declining. You know, you're you're not

1823
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 7: allowing my client to make a living, and that's that's

1824
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 7: not right. Well, you know what, the lawyer's got to

1825
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 7: get their money. I mean, come on, that's that's that's

1826
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 7: at the root of the issue where we're coming from. Well,

1827
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:32,640
Speaker 7: you know, and then they just announced what yesterday or

1828
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:37,560
Speaker 7: today that the portal in college basketball is going to

1829
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:40,640
Speaker 7: open like the day after the National Championship game and

1830
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:44,639
Speaker 7: run fifteen days. So now it's like, yeah, that that's

1831
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 7: the next step is the college basketball players are going

1832
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:50,800
Speaker 7: to be leaving and all this all this stuff, and

1833
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 7: they're gonna, you know, they're gonna be scattering all over

1834
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 7: the place at least as after the national championship game

1835
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 7: in college. Right now, it's happening, you know, right now, Yeah,

1836
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 7: right now during the balls he's how Bullsey's raising.

1837
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:02,640
Speaker 2: So it really is.

1838
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 1: And you talk about how much it's changed, I guess

1839
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 1: really isn't anything any such thing anymore as a student athlete.

1840
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 1: I mean, do those people that go like the examples

1841
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 1: you're giving, do they ever get their degree? I don't

1842
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 1: think they probably care about it. It's I don't have

1843
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 1: the stat in front of me. Yeah, it's like an

1844
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:25,639
Speaker 1: astounding number of kids every year go into the portal

1845
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 1: with us.

1846
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 9: You know, they have a scholarship. They go in the portal,

1847
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:30,759
Speaker 9: and they don't come out of the portal with a scholarship. Okay,

1848
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:34,759
Speaker 9: so that's that's tough. I saw at something like thirty

1849
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 9: percent of college football players were in the portal this

1850
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:39,000
Speaker 9: past hour.

1851
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 2: Crazy.

1852
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,240
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm getting the word from the sheriff. We got

1853
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 1: to get out of here. Listen to the sheriff guy.

1854
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 2: Mike, we leave you with the immortal words of the

1855
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 2: student report. That's all right.

1856
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:59,600
Speaker 6: I've always felt the nine most terrifying words in the

1857
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 6: English language are I'm from the government and I'm here

1858
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:03,679
Speaker 6: to help.

1859
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 2: Yes, Sir the Great Ronald, here you go.

1860
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 1: It doesn't get any better, all right, guys, thanks again,

1861
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:11,479
Speaker 1: all right, Mike Allen

1862
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:13,680
Speaker 2: And for Willie seven hundred wl W