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Speaker 2: On the home of your World champion, Los Angeles Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: will have Clippers basketball tomorrow. That means a Flex alert

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Speaker 3: Davidssay has got Will Smith tonight for Dodger Talk. I

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Speaker 3: guess that evil poisoned pen letter that Clyle sent Will

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Speaker 3: Smith and his wife didn't affect David Vasse's ability to

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Speaker 2: Ha, how you like that? Huh? Turns out Will and

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Speaker 2: David get along famously. Real nice stick to your cast rules,

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Speaker 2: Say Matt, what were you doing over there at the

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Speaker 3: You know, just sitting here giving away hand me down.

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Speaker 2: We each have our rules, yeah, we sure do, man,

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Speaker 2: Our fun fact The WBC is underway tonight. We have

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Speaker 2: Australia versus Chechia. As you know, in nineteen thirty two

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Speaker 2: and Australia, the Great Emu War took place, addressing a

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Speaker 2: public concern of too many EMUs destroying crops in the

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Speaker 2: an alpaca coming out of World War One. The Royal

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Speaker 2: Australian Artillery, armed with Lewis guns were called in, thinking

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Speaker 2: they could herd the EMUs into an ambush situation, but

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Speaker 2: the EMUs were quick to adapt. Yeah, dude, they had

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Speaker 2: those big, long ass necks. They would split into small groups.

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Speaker 2: Their dreams of point blank fire into masses of EMUs

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Speaker 2: soon dissipated as the EMUs broke into groups, had one

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Speaker 2: supposed to kill tens of thousands of EMUs. How many

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Speaker 2: one and the Australian Army had to surrender after two months, saying.

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Speaker 2: They killed fifty? Well? Their claims were two hundred. But

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Speaker 3: But it's like starship troopers or they're all getting killed

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Speaker 3: Today, in the desolate desert of western Phoenix, Goodyear, Arizona,

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Speaker 3: the Dodgers face the Reds monthly worst deep Max Munsey

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Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, Santiago Espinal with a three run home run.

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Speaker 2: The table was shot and Espinal showed up ready to eat.

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Speaker 3: You guys are like Chaucer, Matt. The Lakers are in

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Speaker 2: House nuggets, exactly what we're like. They're the sixth seed

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Speaker 3: He wasn't telling us we were like Chaucer. It was

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Speaker 2: No, that would never happen. We're just a couple. You're

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Speaker 3: I don't know what those things are, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: They beat the Pacers last night.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they get that win over the Spurs, Man, and

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Speaker 2: you're gonna hit it before the end of the year.

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Speaker 3: The Clippers are nine seed in the West. They were

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Speaker 2: Thanks ty that was very insightful. You know what I

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Speaker 3: I know, Freddie, I'm over here on YouTube side doing

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Speaker 2: Now, doing a simulcast. But you cut a little crossfire.

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Speaker 2: How are you like, you know, just doing a simul

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Speaker 2: Get it made him out to be Napoleon Diner.

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Speaker 3: That's what he sounds like. The Buffalo Bills traded a

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Speaker 3: all eyes are still on Max with two exes Crosby

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Speaker 3: Max Crosby's conversation with Jerry Jones on the phone is

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, split us. That's a thing man of buets

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Speaker 2: Every single breath he took and then he took documented

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Speaker 3: They're asking the court to overrule the injunction and expedite

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Speaker 2: app had clips last night. Took care of the Pacers.

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Speaker 2: on AM five seventy LA Sports. Last night he was.

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Speaker 3: Just hanging around, But the night before that UC LA

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Speaker 2: Don. We hope you're well? How are you?

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Speaker 7: How dare you say? I was just hanging around last night.

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Speaker 7: It was actually a really good game for about twenty

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Speaker 3: It's three feet high. The great Don McClain is our guest,

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Speaker 2: Hey, Don, You're going to the Big ten tournament next week?

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Speaker 7: But I will say, you know, and this is no

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Speaker 2: You had a pool party, Don, You had a pool party. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: It felt different than a PAC twelve tournament because in

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Speaker 3: Look, hey, you know, maybe a drink out with Matt

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Speaker 7: I don't mind. I don't mind grabbing a drink. You

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Speaker 2: All right, Well we'll have that clip though. I thought

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, maybe if you take her to

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Speaker 3: Does Luca like, does he have a disease about complaining

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Speaker 7: like that too, you know. I Mean there's guys that

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Speaker 7: they get after the officials no matter what, whether whether

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Speaker 7: you know, any call that goes against them, They're going

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Speaker 7: crazy on the officials, and it's like every call against

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Speaker 7: your team can't be wrong. And the same with Luca,

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Speaker 7: Like every time you go to the basket, you can't

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Speaker 7: you can't expect a foul. And so I just think

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Speaker 7: that's that's the way they do it, that's the way

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Speaker 7: they've always done it, and that's who they are.

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Speaker 2: Does it surprise you? And I don't know how much

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Speaker 2: because you're so deep into the college basketball season, don

447
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Speaker 2: and I don't know if you have time to watch

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Speaker 2: the talking heads as it pertains to the NB, But

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Speaker 2: does it surprise you that Luca is taking the amount

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Speaker 2: of incoming that he's taking this season, people, you know,

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Speaker 2: talking about how much he complains about the officials, talking

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Speaker 2: about how he doesn't play defense, that his teams aren't

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Speaker 2: beating other great teams. Is that fair? Is it not fair?

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Speaker 2: Is this still a team that was built around Lebron

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Speaker 2: and the pieces don't fit around Luca? Or are these

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Speaker 2: things that maybe the Mavericks had figured out and decided

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Speaker 2: they just didn't want to be in business with him anymore.

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Speaker 7: Well, i'll tell you this, Matt, and you're right. I

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Speaker 7: don't watch a lot of the talking heads, but I

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Speaker 7: kind of see what they say. But I will tell

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Speaker 7: you this, and I never talked about when I played,

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Speaker 7: but sometimes it's appropriate. So I was a guy that

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Speaker 7: got after the officials. A lot people don't like it.

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Speaker 7: They don't like watching it, they don't like you doing it.

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Speaker 7: And on much lower scale I did it. But at UCLA,

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Speaker 7: you know, I got technicals and all that, and it

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Speaker 7: really turned a lot of people off. And so I

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Speaker 7: think that's why nobody wants to watch a great player

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Speaker 7: play great but bitch at the officials the entire game,

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Speaker 7: like literally, And so I kind of know that from

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Speaker 7: my own experience. Now I got better at it because

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Speaker 7: I have to. I never played at the level Lucas

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Speaker 7: is in the NBA, but I have a feeling that's

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Speaker 7: what it is. Is guys were really turned off watching

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Speaker 7: him complain the entire game. That's not once in a while,

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Speaker 7: it is literally the entire game.

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Speaker 3: Well to turn us off, don you would have to

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Speaker 3: go full Sharon More, which is a pregnant, a fat

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Speaker 3: white girl break into her house.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I would say, fat.

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Speaker 3: Gee, ow, she's got a winter coat on and it's

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Speaker 3: called out there, and hold a butter knife to your

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Speaker 3: throat and threaten to kill yourself and her.

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Speaker 2: And we only put you on every other Yeah, and then.

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Speaker 3: We'd be like, I don't know if Don can be

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Speaker 3: a weekly we might have to cut his pay, but

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what you would have to do, Don

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Speaker 3: to turn us off. We don't care how much you're

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Speaker 3: complaining to the officials, But how do you make a

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Speaker 3: guy stop if he can't control himself?

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Speaker 7: You don't. I mean, that's the thing when when players

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Speaker 7: get to that level in the NBA, his level, there's

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Speaker 7: nothing you can do. What are you going to find

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Speaker 7: him twenty grand every time he gets a tech? I mean,

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Speaker 7: I don't even know what techs are anymore, what they

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Speaker 7: find players for, but it's probably laughable compared to what

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Speaker 7: they make. It used to be five grand, like it

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Speaker 7: was two grand, and it was five grand for the

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Speaker 7: next whatever, for the next one in a game. I

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Speaker 7: don't know what it is anymore, but I'm sure Guys

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Speaker 7: making fifty million aren't even flinching when they get ten

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Speaker 7: grand taken out of their check for a technical you know. So,

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Speaker 7: I don't know how you stop it.

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Speaker 3: To be honest, no matter how bad it gets, no

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Speaker 3: matter where it is, you can always say it's not

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Speaker 3: as bad as cal State Bakersfield. No, thank you, Don

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Speaker 3: d What do you mean, fixed, Don? Did you hear

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Speaker 3: about cal State baco Don?

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Speaker 2: I did not. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One of their assistant coaches was pimping cross for state.

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Speaker 3: He had a bunch of math and weed, and old

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Speaker 3: coach Barnes had to step down.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, yeah, wow. So I'm glad that they I'm

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Speaker 2: glad that they.

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Speaker 7: Look in his defense. An assistant at cal State Bakersfield

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Speaker 7: doesn't make very much money.

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Speaker 2: Three thousand month, that's what it was. You got to

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Speaker 2: supplement that income.

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Speaker 3: This was a very very questionable side hustle, and I'm

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Speaker 3: just glad Trent didn't end up as a roadrunner. Appreciate

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Speaker 3: you done. Have a great night, Don McClain. Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: The best of the best coming up next Dead and

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Speaker 2: You know there's a big show on Sunday too, Matt

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Speaker 2: uh the State of Michigan Showdown, and that is huge.

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Speaker 2: Here in LA tip off at one thirty pm. Tim

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Speaker 2: Kate's going to be on the pre half the post coverage.

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Speaker 2: What a coincidence. So Michigan v. Michigan State, number three

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Speaker 2: hear that right here on.

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Speaker 3: HANFI seventy LA Sports. All right, your dead guy birthday

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Speaker 3: of the day would have been ninety nine today, but

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Speaker 2: For a while.

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Speaker 3: John Joseph Edward Cassidy to Jack American actor, director, singer,

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Speaker 3: and a flamboyant man of the theater. Father of David

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Speaker 3: Cassidy and Sean and Patrick Cassidy, who are the half

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Speaker 3: brothers of David Cassid. Born in New York, started out

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Speaker 3: as a star on Broadway. He won a Tony for

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Speaker 3: She Loves Me, and on TV he was Strong, Gun, Smoke, Bewitched,

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Speaker 3: Get Smart, Hawaii five, Oh Damn Barnaby Jones. I know

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Speaker 3: one show would love, one show that would really react

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Speaker 3: to that better.

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Speaker 2: Than you did.

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Speaker 3: Three Columbos. He was Ted Baxter, Barnaby Jones.

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Speaker 2: On Mary Tyler Moore.

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Speaker 3: He was Ted Baxter from seventy to seventy seven, even

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Speaker 3: though he died in seventy six. I loved him as

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Speaker 3: a flamboyant informer in Clint Eastwood's The Eiger Sanction, and

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Speaker 3: that is what I remember him from. If we could

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Speaker 3: listen to the clip from The Eiger Sanction, one of

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Speaker 3: your favorites, man, I'm sure he plays the gay assassin

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Speaker 3: the Best who upset Clint Eastwood because he.

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Speaker 2: Kills his partner.

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Speaker 3: He was involved and here he is talking to Clint

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Speaker 3: Eastwood at the pool at the Eras on a resort

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Speaker 3: where Clint Eastwood is learning training to climb Tiger.

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Speaker 2: Who's a world champion.

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Speaker 1: But they all, Oh, it.

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Speaker 3: Must seem odd to you that I've looked you up

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Speaker 3: after all these years, did you see, Jonathan, I'm.

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Speaker 2: I'm grown very tired of waiting for you to step

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Speaker 2: up behind me one day and relieve me of existing

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Speaker 2: stepping up behind your method miles ooo, right into your face. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you would. However, that does not enhance my.

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Speaker 4: a very strong bargaining position.

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Speaker 2: Forget it that even curs.

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Speaker 1: You've betrayed the book listen, Asia, and we live no

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Speaker 1: thanks to you.

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Speaker 2: Now you people have killed insuring I didn't actually kill him.

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Speaker 1: You know, well I probably won't actually kill you.

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Speaker 2: See it's fair little comfort.

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Speaker 3: Ton Rie was a worthless alcoholic and I abhor sloppy drugs. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: his first marriage, what's the Evelyn Ward? Who is David

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Speaker 3: Cassidy's mom? The teen idol? Then he married the star

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Speaker 3: shirty Jones. Oh, she had three other sons with him.

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Speaker 3: Cassidy was bisexual, kept his same sex affairs real low,

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Speaker 3: real low.

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Speaker 2: No, he could do that back then, you know.

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Speaker 3: But apparently he had one with composer Cole Porter. Oh

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Speaker 3: when he's forty nine, he burned himself to death on

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Speaker 3: a naga Hyde couch when he dropped a cigarette while

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Speaker 3: he was asleep.

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Speaker 2: Are you okay, man, it's just nauga hide? You know

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Speaker 2: that's what got you kind of the you know, fancy

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Speaker 2: word for vinyl. If you're what's his name, John Joseph

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Speaker 2: Edward Jack Cassidy, famous Jack cas I was trying to

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Speaker 2: use all four You would like to think that maybe

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Speaker 2: you could have a real leathers opposed to a nagae couch.

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Speaker 2: That saw that kind of took me back. Well, maybe

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Speaker 2: he was, like, you know, in the back room of

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Speaker 2: a bar or something, and not his home. Now it

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Speaker 2: was in his apartment in West Hollywood. This nauga hide

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Speaker 2: is easy to clean. There is a durable, high.

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Speaker 3: Performance artificial leather brown developed in nineteen fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Well, you shouldn't have a cigarette on it, I know, clearly.

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Speaker 3: I mean they had to identify him by his fraternity

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Speaker 3: rail Terrible. Later in life, he was often seen stark

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Speaker 3: naked watering his lawn. He was bipolar. Grammy and Tony

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Speaker 3: nominated for two Primetime Emmys.

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Speaker 2: Jack Jack Jack Cassiley, all right, Pee, you're a live guy.

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Speaker 2: I like that. Michael Lewis Moneyball, Big Short, Liars, Poker,

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Speaker 2: Sam Bankman Freed ore a live guy birthday to day?

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Speaker 2: Was he a con artist, a financial criminal or a

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Speaker 2: wildly altruistic let's make all kinds of money and use

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Speaker 2: it to save the world. Good guy that just caught

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Speaker 2: and well he was entrapped. The story is told you

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Speaker 2: want to read a Delorian. I know a guy on

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Speaker 2: both sides and here years later after reading it, still

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Speaker 2: can't decide about Bankman Freed, So let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Thirty four today he is incarcerated, named fraudster. According to

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Speaker 2: the courts. Sam Bankman Freed born in Stanford. Both parents

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Speaker 2: were professors at the university. Incredibly bright kid, as you

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Speaker 2: would imagine, mit two degrees, but you know light work,

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Speaker 2: physics and math. In twenty thirteen he landed a coveted

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Speaker 2: internship at Jane Street Capital. Quickly outthought and outperformed. Full

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Speaker 2: salaried long tenured employees. When it came to high frequency

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Speaker 2: trading in arbitrage, he was offered a position the moment

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Speaker 2: he graduated. After a few years, decided he was tired

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Speaker 2: of making hundreds of millions of dollars for those folks

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Speaker 2: and instead wanted to save the world. Took a job

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Speaker 2: at the Center for Effective Altruism and from there he

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Speaker 2: co founded Alameter Research. Under the same principles, he gets

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Speaker 2: into crypto early again, focuses heavily on arbitrage, took advantage

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Speaker 2: of price differences for cryptocurrencies across the different exchanges, practiced

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Speaker 2: what was called the kim Chiep premium. Bitcoin traded at

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Speaker 2: significantly higher prices in South Korea than other markets, so

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Speaker 2: he would buy crypto elsewhere and sell it there before

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Speaker 2: the clocks could catch up. Made huge profits. So he

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Speaker 2: launches FTX in twenty nineteen and well it took off

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Speaker 2: his exchange FTX. The crypto exchange gained a reputation for

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Speaker 2: offering advanced trading features like derivatives, leverage tokens, also market

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Speaker 2: itself aggressively Tom Brady super Bowl commercials, and within a

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Speaker 2: couple of years it was the largest crypto exchange in

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Speaker 2: the world.

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Speaker 3: Most not as big as his flag football in Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 2: Nothing's as big as his flag football in Saudi Arabia. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: A lot of people were skeptical of exchanges at the time.

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Speaker 2: They were run out of places like Hong Kong by

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Speaker 2: international entities. So an American, an MIT grad, We're going

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Speaker 2: to get this thing regulated through the US was a

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Speaker 2: monster pitch to people that thought, I need to get

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Speaker 2: into crypto before that train leaves the station. And as

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Speaker 2: he promised, he was in fact giving away that money.

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Speaker 2: Gifts of fifteen million dollars fourteen million, five million, single

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Speaker 2: million dollar gifts were doled out and confirmed through the

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Speaker 2: Center of Effective Altruism, making headlines and all is well.

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Speaker 2: Peak of the crypto boom twenty twenty one. He was

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Speaker 2: the face of crypto now. He was an odd bird,

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00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 2: rolled around a T shirts and shorts and messy hair,

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Speaker 2: soft spoken. He would do his interviews while playing video

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Speaker 2: games on a separate screen. Spectrum vibes were strong. What

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Speaker 2: does that mean, Matt's? You know, a little spectrum action

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Speaker 2: here from our man Sam Bankers free autistic similar to

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Speaker 2: the uh Brian Gutierra. You go over there at.

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Speaker 3: The uh West Covina City Council.

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Speaker 2: He was promoting the philosophy of effective altruism, though arguing

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Speaker 2: that people should earn large amounts of money and then

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Speaker 2: donate it to causes that will do the most good.

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Speaker 2: November twenty two, however, arrives and the relationship between FTX

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Speaker 2: and Alameter research. How are customer funds being handled? The

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Speaker 2: Ponzi type scheme was uncovered. There's a run confidence loss

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Speaker 2: triggered massive withdrawals, and it collapses. FTX files for bankruptcy,

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Speaker 2: billions of dollars in customer assets missing, shock waves throughout

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Speaker 2: the crypto industry. He steps down. He faces multiple criminal charges.

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Speaker 2: His plea was he needed the funds from Alameda to

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Speaker 2: get through a rough patch. Nothing fraudulent involved. Instead, it

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Speaker 2: was a rival international exchange that sabotaged. It became one

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Speaker 2: of the most striking financial scandals over the last fifty years.

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Speaker 2: He was convicted on seven counts, sentenced to twenty five years,

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Speaker 2: and he is currently living You guessed it on Terminal Island.

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Speaker 2: Sam Bakmon fright. That place is closing quite soon. I

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Speaker 2: think that means he's going to be free to go.

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Speaker 2: Anybody that's there when we close, turns out you catch

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Speaker 2: your break, grab.

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Speaker 3: A you don't. You guys don't have to go back

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Speaker 3: to yourself.

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Speaker 2: You don't figure to just leave. It's a helicopter right

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Speaker 2: there to take it to Kettle. I don't think it

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Speaker 2: works like that. Conch, how's your own adventure?

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Speaker 3: David Massay's got Will Smith coming up next Dodger Talk.

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Speaker 3: I hope you have a great night everybody, and we'll

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Speaker 3: be back on tomorrow at two for the Clippers take

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Speaker 3: off the Spurs.

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Speaker 2: As Friday checked out, this conchigu