1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: This portion of the Joe Show podcast is powered by 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Fair and fairh Tampa Accident Attorneys ninety three three f 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: l Z eight hundred and four oh nine ninety three, 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: ninety three. Do you find yourself surface acting? When I 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: say that? Do you guys know what that means? 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: No? 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: All right, So this is ruining people's lives. This is 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: what this study says. And if you are surface acting, 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: I want to hear from you. Eight hundred four own 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: nine ninety three, ninety three. It's the practice of forcing 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: emotions you don't actually feel while at work. So researchers 12 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: tracked employees energy and emotional regulation during the workday and 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: found that workers who regularly faked upbeat reactions, you know, 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: they try to be like the the vibes king at 15 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: work and all of that, those workers felt more disconnected 16 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: and dissatisfied in their life. The study found two big effects. 17 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: Workers stated they sorry workers started their days more fatigued 18 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: and burned out faster as the week went on. You know, 19 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: right around Thursday, they were basically you know, baggy eyed 20 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: and had trouble kind of getting through their day, yawn 21 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: and a lot not really wanting to be there. Now 22 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: there is always good news to bad news. There is 23 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: light just as much as there is dark. Researchers say, 24 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: fully unplugging from work, that's what you got to do, 25 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: especially through low effort relaxation like reading or listening to 26 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: music can help break that cycle and restore energy surface acting. 27 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: What do you guys think about that? I think that it. 28 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 3: Holds true for a lot of people at this Uh. Well, 29 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: but you can't get mad at me when I when 30 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: you bring up the study, it's like, is the place 31 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: that we come to work. 32 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: Every single days time? Here? 33 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: You can you can sense it the energy that's the 34 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: there's like a hand full of like raw rob people 35 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: where I'm like, dude, just you know, pipe it down 36 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: just a little bit. You're trying to just try and 37 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 3: force it upon me correct, actually tryhards. But you know what, 38 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 3: on that same point, because I'm kind of being a 39 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 3: hypocrite here, I'm that guy. I'm the guy who's trying 40 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 3: to be like, really, you. 41 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: Know, a great job. 42 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: Do you feel like sometimes. 43 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: I feel like I have to because I want the 44 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 3: reputation of not just myself but the show within the 45 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: hallways to be good. And even if there's somebody that 46 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: I absolutely despise and and would never you know, attend 47 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 3: the bird they party. I still live. Yeah, you have 48 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: to be because then it's like then you get called 49 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: into the boss's office and then here's how that conversation goes. 50 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 4: Joe, you're not being a team player. 51 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: Ashley took the words from right out of my mouth. 52 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: Is that what happens? 53 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: Okay? Just you know, you know, I just want to 54 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: make sure everybody's playing nice around here. 55 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: Have you heard that before? 56 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: Not? Not since we've been in the new building. It's 57 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: been in a couple of years. But I remember I'm 58 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: being remembered a couple of times being called in be like, 59 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: is everything okay? 60 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: Like you know, it just. 61 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: Seems like there's some tension here and just like yeah, 62 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 3: because you are surface acting, because there is a little 63 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: too much yes going on in the hallway. Just tell 64 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: it how it. 65 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: Is, and surface acting, I think it keeps the It 66 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: does keep the vibes, and it keeps people from being 67 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: upset at each other. 68 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 4: I'll surface act on time. 69 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: You do. 70 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 4: Yes, listen, you do what you got to do. 71 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 1: Because of that, you do you feel one more time? 72 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: Said the surface acting, do you're forcing emotions that don't 73 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: actually feel, and it's strongly linked now to burnout and 74 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: declining well being. I think it is really important though, 75 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: as we say this, because it is kind of like 76 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: a it's it isn't negative, right, and we don't want 77 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: you to wake up with just horrible news and not 78 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: have a solution. So the good news is that researchers say, 79 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: and this works, you gotta fully unplug from work when 80 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: you get home. Stop thinking about work. I know that 81 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: it didn't trust me, you know, and not getting into 82 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: too much. I get it. And as someone who does 83 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: not unplug, you know, reading this, it's you know, I'm 84 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: looking for a therapist right now, but this, this research 85 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: is the closest thing I got to therapy for the 86 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: you know moment. Listening to music, reading, I'll learn how 87 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: to read. Maybe I'll do them. But you do feel 88 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: like you surface hacked. 89 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 4: I do. 90 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: I feel like in this day and age, you have to, 91 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: especially because I also feel like workplaces are just high 92 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: school all over again. You're gonna work with people who 93 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: probably have issues with You're gonna work with people who 94 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: don't like so you have to surface level to our 95 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: surface act to make it through the day. Have you 96 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: ever seen that meme or the guy he's like got 97 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: a happy suit on and then when he goes home, 98 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: he strips it off and he's back to being himself. 99 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: That's how I feel sometimes. 100 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's deep. You're wearing a skin suit listener, Katie, 101 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: not our Katie Summers, but Winter Haven Zone Katie. Hi Katie, 102 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: they do so, Katie. You're a mental health counselor. 103 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, So, no matter how I'm feeling that day, sometimes 104 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 5: I'm just really not feeling it, but I have to 105 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 5: match the kind of the vibe of the client. If 106 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 5: they're really happy, then I kind of have to match that. 107 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 5: If they're not so much, then I can't be happy. 108 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, how hard is that? 109 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 5: It can be very difficult. Definitely have to learn how 110 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 5: to regulate my emotions. 111 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: How long have you been a mental health counselor? 112 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 5: About five years? 113 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: When you were in year one, was it a lot 114 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: harder to fake it than you know, year five? Oh? 115 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 5: Definitely definitely. 116 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm working on that too. You know, we 117 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: kind of relate as far as how long we've been 118 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: doing our jobs. I have been doing this now for 119 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, five and a half almost six years, and 120 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: oh if I was telling Katie Summers, this our Katie, 121 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: although winter Haven Zone Katie is our Katie too. I 122 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: was telling Katie a couple of days ago, we were 123 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: out over the weekend, and I told her, like, you know, 124 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: if I could delete three years, I delete the first 125 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: three years of the show. I was not good at acting. 126 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: I feel like I especially, and I still kind of 127 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: up because no one wants to wake up and hear 128 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: me complain. And if you do, what the hell is 129 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: your problem? 130 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 4: I say it all the time. 131 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 2: Life was already tough, so like, if I couldn't be happy, 132 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: let me just be happy. 133 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, if I feel like sometimes I got to acted, 134 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: it would be completely honest. I've definitely been. I'm you know, 135 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm struggling right now with some and you know, I 136 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: was not good at hiding it and masking it, which 137 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: that probably turned off a lot of people. That's probably 138 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: why people don't listen. But I feel like now I'm 139 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: starting to kind of figure it out. Like, for example, 140 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: right now, I'm not revealing too much. I'm just reporting 141 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: what surface acting is. 142 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 5: And that's another thing. Like if I'm having a crappy 143 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 5: day or I'm having my own problems. I just have 144 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 5: to listen to other people's problems who said I'm dealing 145 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 5: with mine. 146 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: You ever hear any problems and you go, well, it 147 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: could be worse. 148 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't say it, but. 149 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: Yes, Katie, thank you for doing what you do. 150 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 5: Thank you. 151 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: I have a question because I am trying to figure 152 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: this out and maybe people are listening right now who 153 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: are in the same spot as me. How do I 154 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: find a therapist? 155 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 5: The best thing is to call around looking up mental 156 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 5: health counselors near me, or there's even online one like 157 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 5: better Help or things like that. 158 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: Things. 159 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I put in our our health insurance 160 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: to see which people are available in the closest and 161 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: then they got the time availabilities and then you can. 162 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 5: See like you Yeah, you can also put like your 163 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 5: preferences and female or things. 164 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 4: Like that, LGBTQ friendly, things like that. 165 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 5: No way you can even get the referral from your 166 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 5: like primary doctor. 167 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: Where do I find a primary Katie? Thank you for 168 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: doing what you do. I love you more. I'm surface 169 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: acting well. Listen. The main reason why I wanted to 170 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: bring this up is truthfully, I'm kind of going through 171 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: that and when I read that the whole like you 172 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: gotta like shut off and stuff like that when we're time. 173 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: You know, surface acting, acting like you're super good at 174 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: work and whatnot. It's causing a lot of Americans to 175 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: really have their health decline. In truth, you know, I've 176 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: been gaining weight recently. I haven't been stressed. Yeah, I've 177 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: been doing too well. So you know when I saw 178 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: that if you can shut off reading, listening to music, 179 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: that will restore your energy. So if you're feeling the 180 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: way I truly i've been feeling, we've got our homework 181 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: to do. 182 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: What are you doing to restore your energy and restore 183 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 4: your emotions? 184 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: And I got not doing anything. I had a horrible 185 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: night last night, But I gotta. 186 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 4: I would have known because you're doing a great job. 187 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 4: Surface accent. 188 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: Well, you guys want to talk about it. I don't 189 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: want to talk about it. I don't bring it up. Well, 190 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk allay book. 191 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 4: You guys are doing a terrible job right now, Surface act. 192 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: What do you mean? I'm a man, I'm bad at 193 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: my emotions. This portion of The Joe Show podcast is 194 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: powered by Fair and Farah, Tampa Accident Attorneys,