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Speaker 1: Human from the fish filled Midwest lakes to the deep

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Speaker 1: woods of the North Upland prairies filled with pheasants, to

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Speaker 1: the whistling wings of duck ponds. This is Saturday Morning,

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Speaker 1: Fan Outdoors, your show for hunting and fishing tips, topics

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Speaker 1: and conversations. You can also send us a question or

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Speaker 1: opinion by emailing us booth at kfean dot com. Here's

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Speaker 1: your host, the Fans, Captain Billy Hildebrand.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Fan Outdoors, faithful. Good morning to you. Hey,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the second day of spring. Can you believe it?

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Speaker 2: Uh huh? Well, the guy before us was giving you

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Speaker 2: the forecasts at upper seventies. I'll take that. I'll take

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Speaker 2: that every day well until into July. And that because

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Speaker 2: seventies are okay, we go swimming at the cabin. Yep,

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Speaker 2: I'll do that today with me. Bob Saint Pierre is

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Speaker 2: up on the gun Flint Trail snow skiing, and he

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Speaker 2: promised he'd take a video for me when he crashes

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Speaker 2: and burns, So not crashing and burning. In here with

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Speaker 2: us is a very good friend of mine, mister Andy Peterson.

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Speaker 2: Oh buddy, good morning Billy.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm not bad. I'm not bad at all.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure liking the sounds of that forecasts me too.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday was beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know you talk about a roob, that's me

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Speaker 2: sitting it right now. I got an old lawn chair,

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Speaker 2: sat there with a little breed dog, coldless on her head.

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Speaker 2: So she's just laying down too.

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Speaker 3: And were your chiseling any ice anywhere?

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Speaker 2: Well? I shovel the rest of the snow off the

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Speaker 2: but no, there's not wellye, a little snow longhouse, But

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Speaker 2: I don't know. This is a bit of winter that well.

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Speaker 2: In my eyes, every winter is one that never quits.

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Speaker 3: I thought this year was. I was okay with the

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Speaker 3: winter we had. We had decent snow, it wasn't too cold,

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Speaker 3: except for that one spell in January, so we got lucky.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I keep great piece. I keep talking about

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Speaker 2: what I was, but I do remembers going to school

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Speaker 2: in Saint Cloud. I was I'd have to take my

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Speaker 2: to my dorm room just because it got so cold

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Speaker 2: that it wouldn't turn over.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like fun. You know.

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Speaker 2: Well, the let's see, let's see Turkey season opens pretty.

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Speaker 3: Soon when you're gonna go, I've be decided yet, I

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Speaker 3: haven't it all for for me?

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I've told you this. So for me, it's

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Speaker 2: all about weather. Yep. I if I'm gonna sit out there,

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Speaker 2: I want to be comfortable.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't have to be comfortable, but I don't want

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Speaker 2: to be wet and I don't like to be freezing.

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Speaker 2: I can do that in deer season, yep. But that's

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Speaker 2: kind of it. And your family is with us today too.

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Speaker 3: They are that's we got that. We got the whole

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Speaker 3: tribe with today and Van and Breeley and Kendra are

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Speaker 2: Cool, and we'll talk with them a little bit later

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Speaker 2: in the show too, because uh really we talked a

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Speaker 2: kind of she's ready to take one. It's not doesn't

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Speaker 3: I think she's logged in over eighty hours of standtime

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Speaker 2: Well, and Van is here also your son, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know what about uh is Have he has he

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, good, he got his eight pointer that

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Speaker 3: he was looking for. Actually, we're due to go. It's

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Speaker 3: up that two rivers taxidermy right now. We got to

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Speaker 2: Excellent, excellent, that'll be fun. Well, what about turkeys?

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Speaker 2: The kids are you're you're they're out in turkey's too.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, Van got one with twenty gauge in that

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Speaker 3: And springtime is always good for some siting in the

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Speaker 2: I love turkey hunting. I just love it. It's just

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Speaker 3: So that's one thing too. Like when my dad got

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Speaker 3: and we did archer ol hunting, and that is by

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Speaker 3: We got up there. The birds were goblin and you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the gobble is something that really really does it.

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Speaker 2: But then I think also with spring, you see so

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again too, you don't see it unless you're

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Speaker 2: Well, and you learn, at least I feel that I

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Speaker 2: much noise they make. Yeah, I mean it feels like

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Speaker 2: it sounds like an army coming through with all the

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Speaker 2: the only thing really you can hunt other than snow

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Speaker 3: And I got a cousin, well, two cousins and an

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I've heard story when you get into them,

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Speaker 2: but you got to chase them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's a I think for for me,

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Speaker 3: But it was always the case that we saw them

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got excuse me. Eric and I were out

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Speaker 2: So it was it was. It's fun. It's fun. But

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Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to turkey and knives. I'm hearing

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Speaker 2: the gobble, I'm seeing bunches. I saw a bunch of

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Speaker 3: this time of year, all of a sudden, they're everywhere.

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Speaker 2: They're moving now, wirrey everywhere. Sometimes you'll can't find soul. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: by Stan Tequila, who is fresh off the airplane coming

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Speaker 2: my sister in actually Ann from alec Is, she's hooked

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Speaker 2: on it. She is absolutely all over it. She loves

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Speaker 2: Delta Waterfowl had duck cams and they were showing predators

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Speaker 3: I couldn't leave it, and I got checking out.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they even do it anymore, but

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Speaker 2: they when a raccoon came in, her skunk came in.

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Speaker 2: I watched that and got after the nest. I was

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Speaker 2: so angry at it, I really was. It was like

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Speaker 2: I assumed I was all set to go shoot Skunk's

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Speaker 2: But Stan will be along. Tommy George will join us

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Speaker 2: Curious about fishing and maybe you know something here about

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Speaker 2: some things yet. But have you heard anything if people

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Speaker 2: Just the rivers all I've heard lately. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: well let's take our first pause. We will do so

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Speaker 2: and be back with pro angler Tommy George right after this.

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Speaker 2: So hold on, Andy is in the studio, Andy Peterson,

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Speaker 2: Cod boy. I was trying. I remember once in school,

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Speaker 2: The headache was gone. I killed around. You're addicted, and

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Speaker 2: I don't care. In the system, you know, it's in

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Speaker 2: the system. Hey, let's bring into the conversation a friend

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Speaker 2: of ours, mister Tommy George pro Engler, Tommy George, Good morning, sir.

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 6: Hi, belly?

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Speaker 5: Ay, it's good to talk to you. And bred also,

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Speaker 5: so it's I'm the same as you guys. If I

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Speaker 2: So we're talking about our addictions. Yeah, I know you're right.

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Speaker 6: That's all right, that's it doesn't It doesn't hurt anything.

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Speaker 5: I know, if I don't get my coffee, I can

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Speaker 3: That's where I'm at too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I used to be a cold guy,

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Speaker 3: Huh, it was on in each hand.

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Speaker 7: Huh.

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Speaker 2: And I haven't had the colke for quite a while now,

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Speaker 2: But is that that's a substitute if I can't get

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Speaker 2: Are you done fishing on the ice, Tommy or are you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, for sure, Billy. It's a it's real bad now.

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Speaker 5: And we talked about early ice out it can be dangerous.

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Speaker 2: But I know that Eric talked, Oh he went. I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, people believe that that google late ice like that.

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Speaker 5: But they usually bring a little boat or like a wally,

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Speaker 6: I mean, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't have a Uh, I'm not angry at the fish anymore.

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Speaker 5: I just thought, I want to get out in the

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Speaker 6: So that's the only option right now.

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Speaker 2: I would say, well, it shouldn't take long. And some

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Speaker 5: You're right, I asked a friend yesterday.

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Speaker 6: We talked about it.

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Speaker 5: We talked about some of the lakes that we know

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Speaker 5: the other ones are open. You know, all these deeper

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Speaker 5: it gets real dark and you'll look one day and

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Speaker 5: you'll see ice. The next day it's gone, sinks right

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've watched I've watched it. I've watched it at

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Speaker 3: That sound is amazing. I never heard it until we

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's really cool. But that is it sinks

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Speaker 5: Of these some of the real light lagoons and old

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Speaker 5: beads and stuff. Although that's fabulous, and I've got fished

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Speaker 5: but the fish and I'm not worried any work. I'll

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Speaker 5: just do my honey does right now around the house

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Speaker 5: and a run the property. And just you two guys

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Speaker 5: And it was the coolest thing. So I'm gonna expect

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Speaker 2: With how soon will you be going?

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Speaker 5: As soon as some of these you know, these lakes

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Speaker 6: I'll be out there belly.

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Speaker 5: You know, when the shoreline opens up, you can get

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Speaker 5: blow you into a spot where your boat is jammed

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Speaker 5: against the wheat, you know, against the shoreline or whatever.

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Speaker 5: But it's you can still do that. But like I said,

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Speaker 5: I'm gon wait till the lake's open. And I've been

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Speaker 5: and sometimes it gets kind of scary, but like you say,

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Speaker 6: We're I think we're going to have an early opener. Well,

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Speaker 2: Or two, Tommy, I have what I was here. We

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Speaker 2: go when I was But when I was younger, we

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Speaker 2: sit on this big rock I called it. Well it's

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Speaker 5: Oh? No, no, that's uh, that's definitely uh still very

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Speaker 5: some of these shorelines and some of the bees if

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Speaker 5: don't see why they would buy it, but you know,

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Speaker 5: if you can get into these bays, you will have

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Speaker 5: can they say, be a sportsmanlike and make sure you

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of places to fish off the shore.

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Speaker 5: But uh, you know, be considerate and talk to the

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Speaker 2: What are you what would you start fishing with early

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Speaker 5: Bobbers, billy and and small ice fish and jigs just

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Speaker 5: and stuff like that. That's there the fish. The bugs

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Speaker 5: You know in the winter, how you don't use big stuff.

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Speaker 6: All your jigs are pretty little.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they still bite stuff. Even in the summertime, we're

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Speaker 5: they don't go for something smaller than they would for

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Speaker 2: So how soon will the fish come in to spawn?

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Speaker 5: Tom As soon as it it gets around a fifty

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Speaker 6: People think that.

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Speaker 5: When they come in to the shallows that they're spawning.

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Speaker 5: They're not. The water is way too cold, and it

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Speaker 5: but in your northerns actually, your northerns actually.

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Speaker 6: Spawned under the ice very very They're.

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Speaker 5: One of the earliest ones to spawn. But then in

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Speaker 5: I can't wait to take the grandkids out. They absolutely

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Speaker 5: and they've been asking me ow winter whether we're going

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Speaker 5: not when we can get the boat out.

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Speaker 6: So happy that they like to fish.

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Speaker 5: So but other than that, in sixties, basically sixties, if

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Speaker 2: I know that early in the season, the little things

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Speaker 2: they're going to be in before the sunfish. Correct.

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Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, and you know when to start spawning. It's

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Speaker 5: you'll see the big ones and then right after that

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Speaker 6: You can keep testing it daily.

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Speaker 5: And most of our electronics I'll have temperature gauges on

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Speaker 5: And you can go around the lake and you know

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Speaker 5: That's where you're going to find a lot of your

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Speaker 5: the warm for the bugs, because that's where the bugs

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Speaker 2: What you're going to catch. A lot of the pan

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, Billy, you know when they these fish look like

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Speaker 5: ones you want to let go. You know, they got

437
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Speaker 5: hundreds and thousands of eggs in them, and let them go.

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Speaker 5: I mean, just take some of the males, and you

439
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Speaker 5: know which ones are males, and if they're if they're pregnant,

440
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Speaker 5: let them go. You'll you'll be saving your your resource

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Speaker 5: for many years.

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Speaker 6: And you can.

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Speaker 5: If you keep taking up females, you're gonna fish that

444
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Speaker 5: lake out and then it's gonna be sterile. So let

445
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Speaker 5: those fish go and you'll be much happier. You can

446
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Speaker 5: still take even if you don't catch your living you know,

447
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Speaker 5: like I always say, my limit is ten fish, and

448
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Speaker 5: it shouldn't be too bad to catch ten I'm pregnant

449
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Speaker 5: or not pregnant, you know, fish, pan fish, crappies, whatever,

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Speaker 5: So that's I always let them go.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be any danger of fishing a lake out.

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Speaker 2: I can guarantee you that. I guarantee it.

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Speaker 6: Well, Billy, you.

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Speaker 5: Know the thing that I say is is what bothers

455
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Speaker 5: me is when people are on the spawning beds and

456
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Speaker 5: you know I and they're taking these beautiful, big females

457
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Speaker 5: and didn't I saw were one of the lakes that

458
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Speaker 5: I fish is almost sterile. And I mean you can

459
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Speaker 5: catch these little six inch five edge forage panfish and crappies,

460
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Speaker 5: but they ruin the lake for a number of years,

461
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Speaker 5: so you got to wait. But now this winter I

462
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Speaker 5: caught some nice ones in there, so i know the

463
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Speaker 5: fish are starting to come back, so I'm excited to

464
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Speaker 5: get out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've I've caught little fish. In fact, it's

466
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Speaker 2: recommended that I at least things I've read, it's recommended

467
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Speaker 2: that when these big ones come in, to let them

468
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Speaker 2: go and keep some of the medium sized ones if

469
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Speaker 2: that's what you're going if you want some fish to eat,

470
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Speaker 2: some sunfish or pan fish to eat. But the big

471
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Speaker 2: ones act there and if you pull them off the nest,

472
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 2: those nests are going to get robbed pretty quick. And

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Speaker 2: if you've got a big population of carp in the lake,

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Speaker 2: they they decimate. Again, from what I've told, I've not

475
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Speaker 2: seen them come in, but they sure them rile things

476
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Speaker 2: up and make a mess.

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Speaker 7: They do.

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Speaker 5: They make a messag right, But like you said, just

479
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 5: six seven inch, sonny, is nothing wrong with that, truly,

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Speaker 5: And like I've said before, Steve Waldman coined the phrase.

481
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Speaker 5: He says, have you ever heard of anybody telling you

482
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Speaker 5: these these fish tastes small.

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Speaker 6: You know, after you cook them up and stuff.

484
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Speaker 5: And actually, like I've said before, when I'm at a

485
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Speaker 5: fish fire or whatever, I'll I'll always pick out the

486
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Speaker 5: smallest play in the in the in the pan.

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Speaker 6: It's those are.

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Speaker 5: The most hastiest. And you check it yourself and you'll

489
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Speaker 5: start keeping smaller fish.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not so sure when I'm cleaning fish. I

491
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Speaker 2: have and I've said this on the air too many times,

492
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Speaker 2: but when the kids were little, we had what was

493
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Speaker 2: the legal limit and my boat limit, and the boat

494
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: limit was what Dad is willing to clean. And now

495
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: they're taking over because if I hesitate long enough, the

496
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Speaker 2: kids are going to have the fish cleaned before I

497
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 2: managed to get out there, I usually find something to do,

498
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: good idea. Tommy will let you go, buddy, But I

499
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: thank you, And if you get on the water and

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Speaker 2: catch a few fish, send me a picture again.

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Speaker 5: Okay, thanks Billy Jacket, Andy and Dully. You guys have

502
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 5: a fabulous day and it's going to be I mean,

503
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Speaker 5: this is what we've been waiting for Billy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this weather, it's going to be a checker boy,

505
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Speaker 2: it'll be a dandy. You're right, Thanks for the info.

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00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: You bet take care of Tommy. That's Tommy George. Probably

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Speaker 2: go Tommy George and joins us quite often on Fan Outdoors.

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Speaker 2: We will take a pause and be back and hopefully

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Speaker 2: be joined by the mister Stan Tequila fresh on the

510
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: big silver Bird from Alaska. And if not, we'll talk

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Speaker 2: to ourselves. And that's just kind of the way it goes.

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Speaker 2: We're hoping to stand is with us too. If that,

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00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,959
Speaker 2: we'll go back and we'll take a look at the

514
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Speaker 2: the is camera on the owls at the bottom of

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Speaker 2: the nature smart dot com website. Okay, we'll be right

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Speaker 2: back now.

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Speaker 8: Welcome back to Fan Outdoors, joined now by author, naturalist

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Speaker 8: and photographer Stan Tequila. Whether it's in Minnesota, Alaska, or Africa.

519
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 9: He's always in search of all things wild and natural.

520
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 9: He may even know more about animals than they do themselves.

521
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 9: And you thought the cat knew the outdoors.

522
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Speaker 8: Here's fan favorite stand Tequila on Fan Outdoors.

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Speaker 2: Well are you back in good old Minnesota? There are

524
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Speaker 2: you still up in Alaska?

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Speaker 4: So I am back I'm back, like only for an hour.

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Speaker 4: Oh my, my plane light. Yeah, my plane landed a

527
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 4: little after right around five o'clock this morning, like an

528
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 4: hour and a half ago, stan after an all night,

529
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Speaker 4: all night flight from Anchorage, and had enough time to

530
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Speaker 4: gather my luggage and drive home and walk in the

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Speaker 4: door and go into my office and put on my

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Speaker 4: headphones and talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Oh my, did you say hi to anybody at home?

534
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: Or everybody's sleeping cats were happy to see me? Ah,

535
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Speaker 2: that's nicean, So, how was the trip? Cold? Very very cold?

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Speaker 4: Typically speaking, when we are having a mild winter, they're

537
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Speaker 4: having a very cold winter, and vice versa. When they're

538
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 4: having a mild winter, we're having a very cold winter.

539
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 4: And that really held true. It was very cold, and

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00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 4: it was in the single digits and high of you know,

541
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Speaker 4: in the teens every single day for the last week

542
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 4: and a half or so. So yeah, it was it

543
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Speaker 4: was cold, but productive. I sent you a bunch of pictures.

544
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 4: Hopefully you got those. I texted them over to you,

545
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 4: so a look at that I haven't looked and.

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Speaker 2: You better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So what I just got back from leading a photo

549
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Speaker 4: tour for bald eagles and sea otters and it's a

550
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 4: week long tour up in Alaska for this and I

551
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 4: had five participants and it was as always a just

552
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Speaker 4: a I mean, how do you beat it? It's Alaska,

553
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: you know, it's you know, and we're out on a

554
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Speaker 4: boat and there's you know, it's just it's just one

555
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 4: of those amazing adventures.

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Speaker 2: Stan, I'm looking at it now. Fabulous pictures, My goodness, gracious.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I'll be posting some of these on social media, so

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Speaker 4: people can, you know, tune into my social media and

560
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 4: I'll be able to see these things too. I'm on

561
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Speaker 4: both Instagram and Facebook to just under my name and

562
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 4: I should be able to find it, uh there, and

563
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 4: or you can go to nature smart dot com and

564
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 4: those will also link up to my social media links too,

565
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Speaker 4: and I'll be posting some stuff there as I have

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Speaker 4: time when I wake up.

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Speaker 2: Did you did yours?

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Speaker 10: They?

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Speaker 2: Did they survive without you?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Yes, they are doing good. We have three chicks.

571
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Speaker 4: So for people who don't know, I've got a pair

572
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Speaker 4: of great hornowls who have nested for this is their

573
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Speaker 4: fifth year now, and so I decided to put a

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Speaker 4: camera on them and on February fourth, so a month

575
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Speaker 4: over a month and a half ago they laid the

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Speaker 4: first egg. They had three eggs. All three have hatched.

577
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Speaker 4: All three our young, little tiny white chicks right now

578
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 4: with little dark beaks and their absolutely adorable mom and

579
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Speaker 4: dad are Dad does all the hunting, brings in the

580
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Speaker 4: food to mom. Mom tears up the food and feeds

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Speaker 4: the little babies, and then she sits on those babies

582
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Speaker 4: twenty four hours a day. It is absolutely amazing, keeping

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Speaker 4: him warm in these cold temperatures and you know, shielding

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Speaker 4: from the snow and all that stuff. And yeah, I

585
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Speaker 4: heard you had a snow a big snowfall while we

586
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Speaker 4: were gone too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And so she is

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Speaker 4: doing that. People can a'm live streaming this At any

588
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Speaker 4: given moment. There's anywhere from thirty to fifty people watching

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Speaker 4: this from around the world, which is really it's really

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Speaker 4: interesting because it really brings you like a community together

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Speaker 4: of people who are interested in seeing these owls. And

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Speaker 4: to watch the mom feeding these babies is absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 4: The amount of care, the amount of just the way

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Speaker 4: she droops her wings over these babies to protect them

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Speaker 4: and to keep them dry and keep them warm, and

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Speaker 4: it's just you know, I don't know's it's heartwarming to

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Speaker 4: watch this and so many people. We have people from

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Speaker 4: around the world watching this. There's one one gentleman in

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Speaker 4: Australia who's watching because our nights are his days, so

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Speaker 4: he's watching, you know, all night long, but because it's

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Speaker 4: his day and a vice and everybody makes comments and

602
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 4: they post the time stamps and when every when the

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Speaker 4: chicks are being fed, and it's absolutely just amazing if

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Speaker 4: you're interested in that type of thing. Did you expect

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Speaker 4: this kind of response? No, I had no idea what

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Speaker 4: the heck I was doing. You know, last October when

607
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Speaker 4: I put up this camera, I thought, hey, let's put

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Speaker 4: up a camera, well live stream, you know. And first

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Speaker 4: of all, I had no clue how difficult live streaming is.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 4: The technical part of it is just way beyond me,

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Speaker 4: and so I had no clue. And thank goodness, my

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00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: absolute best buddy Tom Lawrence came through and was able

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Speaker 4: to help me out with every little thing that we needed,

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Speaker 4: all the software and all the streaming capabilities, and we

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00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 4: got that all taken care of and he fixes it

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Speaker 4: when it breaks, and oh my gosh, but it is

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Speaker 4: quite a endeavor to be able to do something like

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Speaker 4: this because we're live streaming four K video and day

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Speaker 4: and night and twenty four hours a day, so it's

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Speaker 4: really difficult to do. But we've got a lot of

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Speaker 4: the kinks worked out of it now and things are

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Speaker 4: going pretty dard and well with it. So people can

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00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 4: tune in and see it either on YouTube by going

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Speaker 4: to nature Smart Media or on my website. We now

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Speaker 4: have it thanks to my daughter Abby, who embedded it

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Speaker 4: into the web page, so people can go to nature

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Speaker 4: smart dot com, scroll at the bottom and see it

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Speaker 4: embedded there and you can watch live feed there also.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you for sure that it gets addictive, yes,

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Speaker 2: and from Alec is absolutely hooked on this because she

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Speaker 2: listens to us on Saturdays. She I'll get a text

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Speaker 2: and she says, do you know what they're doing?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 4: I know? It is absolutely amazing how addictive it is

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Speaker 4: to watch these owls doing this and they're I mean,

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Speaker 4: when you think about it, they're really not doing a

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Speaker 4: whole lot other than trying to survive. So it's but

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00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 4: it is fascinating to watch and like I said, the

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00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 4: level of of care is astounding. While we were gone,

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Speaker 4: the dad brought in a cottontail rabbit, and so they

642
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 4: fed on that for most of most of the day.

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Speaker 4: And speaking of rabbits or yesterday morning, I guess it

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Speaker 4: was twenty four hours ago. In our last morning, I

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00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 4: found three snowshoe hairs and was able to This was

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Speaker 4: first thing in the morning, just before sunrise. I was

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Speaker 4: out kind of stalking in the woods trying to find

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Speaker 4: the snowshoe hair because I've seen him in this area before.

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Speaker 4: Found three of them. Two of them were really hard

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Speaker 4: to reach areas, and one of them was out in

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Speaker 4: the open, and I actually, for the first time in

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Speaker 4: forty years, got some decent images of a snowshoe hair

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Speaker 4: in snow, you know, and not inside of a tangled,

654
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 4: thick brush of stuff like that. So I'm pretty excited

655
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 4: about that. I haven't even looked at the pictures really,

656
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 4: because I had to There was a moose standing right

657
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 4: behind me, and I had to keep an eye on

658
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 4: this moose to make sure, you know, I didn't upset him,

659
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 4: so which is kind of must have been funny for anybody,

660
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 4: because there I am concentrating this little snowshoe hair and

661
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 4: there's a moose, you know, thirty.

662
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: Feet behind me.

663
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 4: So it's like, why is the paint to you that moose?

664
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 4: It's because I'm more interested in the snowshoes.

665
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: Good thing the moose didn't get upset with you, because

666
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: it would have been uh, there's staying racing through.

667
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 4: The woods trying, Yeah, all distracted by a snowshoe hair.

668
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 4: So so I just I'm sorry about the dis jointed

669
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 4: thoughts here, but I'm a little bleary eyed from not sleeping.

670
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: So that's my life.

671
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 4: Stand Come on, yeah, my thoughts are You know, when

672
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 4: I was younger, I used to be able to go

673
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 4: all night, but now wow, well it's challenging.

674
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: I have I have some guests in studio with me

675
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: this morning, and and Andy Peterson is here and his family.

676
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: Stand. How you doing three new owl nest viewers right here?

677
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: For sure?

678
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 5: Oh?

679
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 4: Excellent?

680
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

681
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 4: Is it truly is? It comes with sound too, so

682
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 4: when you turn up the sound and you can hear

683
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 4: her making. I've learned actually several new calls that these

684
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 4: great rown owls give. They give a clucking much like

685
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 4: a chicken, which I'd never had heard before. And I'm

686
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 4: pretty familiar with these birds, and it's and so it's

687
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 4: been really interesting and I'm learning things and seeing things

688
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 4: for the first time. And we totaled up the amount

689
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 4: of hours that the female has been sitting in this nest,

690
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 4: and then we've also total left amount of time she

691
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 4: was off the nest for the past month and a half,

692
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 4: and it just astounding the amount of hours. I forgot

693
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: the exact numbers right now, where it's like over seven

694
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 4: hundred hours straight of sitting on the nest to incubate

695
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 4: these eggs and then to brood the babies after they

696
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 4: just ridiculous feats of you know, I don't know how

697
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 4: anybody or how anything could do this, but there they are.

698
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 4: And these female great horn owls will actually lose weight

699
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 4: during this incubation process because they're not eating as much

700
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 4: for themselves and they're spending so much time on the

701
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 4: nest taking care of these young especially and now this

702
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 4: year she's got three. Now this is the fifth year

703
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 4: that they've nested here in this spot. I built this

704
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: nest for them very specifically because I wanted to attract

705
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 4: great horn owls. And the first year she had one,

706
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 4: which indicates to me that she was a young female.

707
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 4: Second year she had one chick. Also, third year she

708
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 4: had two. Fourth year, she had two, and now this

709
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 4: is the fifth year and she has three. So that

710
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 4: says to me that she is maturing and becoming stronger

711
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 4: and more capable, and so hopefully for the next you know,

712
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 4: quite a few years, she'll continue to reproduce with three

713
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 4: or more. Young Great horn owls typically can go up

714
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 4: to four, but that's about it. And three is a

715
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 4: good number for a mature adult female. And she seems

716
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 4: to be maturing into you know, that very thing.

717
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 2: So what I think you're telling me is when if

718
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: you've got young kids and they come to you and

719
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: they say, I'm so bored, so bored, all you have

720
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: to do is remind them of an owl.

721
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, h I mean, look at the great the

722
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 4: bald eagles too. These these The difference with the bald

723
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 4: eagles is when they are sitting on their eggs, the

724
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 4: male and female switch off, and whereas with the great

725
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 4: horn owls, only the female has a brude patch and

726
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 4: only the females doing the incubating. We did have the

727
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 4: male come in twice when the female was gone for

728
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 4: an extended period of time. The male came over and

729
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 4: he was just like, oh my gosh, quick on these eggs.

730
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 4: He does not have a brood patch, and so he's

731
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 4: not able to impart his heat, his body heat onto

732
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 4: those eggs. He can maintain the heat that's there, but

733
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 4: he can't actually add to the heat this brood patch.

734
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 4: We might have talked about this before. So this happens

735
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 4: in all birds. Where the main thing is with birds

736
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 4: in general, let's just talk some generalities. Most birds have

737
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 4: a body core temperature of about one hundred and four

738
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 4: to one hundred and five degrees fahrenheit. You and I

739
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 4: have ninety eight point six. Okay, so we're much less.

740
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 4: Birds are very very warm bodied animals, and they are

741
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 4: also wearing the most high quality insulative material anywhere, which

742
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 4: is feathers. And so how do you get that heat

743
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 4: from the inside of the bird's body to those eggs

744
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 4: when you've got this layer of you know, feathers between it,

745
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 4: which is highly insulative. And the answer is hormones are

746
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 4: released into the bird's body and the feathers on its

747
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 4: chest a small patch fall out. You don't see it

748
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 4: because it's the feathers that are close to the skin,

749
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 4: the outside feathers, these contour feathers, These are the feathers

750
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 4: contour feathers are the ones that give the bird its

751
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 4: shape and its color, hence the name contour feathers. But

752
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 4: the down feathers underneath come out, revealing a bare patch

753
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 4: of skin, and that bare patch of skin is called

754
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 4: the brood patch. And that's how she does it. So

755
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 4: when she gets on those eggs, or even on these chicks,

756
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 4: she'll shimmy down and push, push, push, and push those

757
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 4: eggs right up through her feathers to the point where

758
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 4: they touch this bare skin, and then she's able to

759
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 4: transfer her body heat that one hundred and five degrees

760
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 4: one hundred and four to one hundred and five degrees

761
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 4: body core temperature to the eggs. Eggs need to incubate

762
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 4: at a about ninety nine degrees fahrenheit. Now consider this, it's winter.

763
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 4: You know, the outside air temperatures are like sometimes at

764
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 4: about zero, so you're talking about one hundred degree temperature

765
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 4: gradiant from the outside air temperature to the eggs. And

766
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 4: then that's absolutely amazing that they're able to do this.

767
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: And then she has to maintain this for thirty five days.

768
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 4: So thirty five days is sitting there trying to, you know,

769
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 4: get her heat into those eggs to incubate those eggs,

770
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 4: and I find that absolutely fascinating.

771
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: I do too, if you think of the miracles that

772
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 2: are taking place, and it's not just one place. I mean,

773
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: it's all over, yes, it's all over yeah and there. Yeah.

774
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 4: Greyhound owls all over the place are all nesting about

775
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 4: the same time too. They're like the one of the

776
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 4: earliest nesting birds in the United States. So even the

777
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 4: ones down south are nesting right now too. So it

778
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: really truly is. I'm watching it right now. By the way,

779
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 4: she's and apart something and feeding her chicks. So unfortunately

780
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 4: she's turned away from the camera right now, but when

781
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 4: she turns towards the camera, it's really a show to

782
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: see these chicks, you know, begging for food and so everything.

783
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 2: My guests here in studio are all smiling and they're

784
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 2: nodding in the affirmative stan when you're talking about that's cool.

785
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 2: It's cool. Yeah, it's fun to watch.

786
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 4: It really truly is.

787
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: Again, And I had.

788
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 4: No idea what we were doing when I started this.

789
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 4: It was just like, hey, this is a good idea,

790
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 4: you know. I I spent forty years in environmental education.

791
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 4: Then I thought, well, this is educational. Let's do this,

792
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 4: and it's like wow, man. Yeah, So I also live

793
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 4: stream when I'm when I'm around, I live stream my

794
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 4: flying squirrels too, because I in the evening for about

795
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 4: three hours off of live stream my flying squirrels too.

796
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 4: Now I'm thinking I may do a whole lot more.

797
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 4: So we may end up live streaming some other things too,

798
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 4: So it should be interesting to see what I end

799
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 4: up doing in the future. I don't even know what

800
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do.

801
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: We have to take a pause. Stand you okay with that,

802
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Okay, now, don't fall asleep, all right,

803
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: because we'll be right back to no guarantees. Okay, We're

804
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: gonna take that pause, and we'll be back with Stan

805
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about some of the pictures that

806
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 2: I received, and they're stunning. Let me just tell you

807
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 2: that they are absolutely stunning. And so we'll take that pause.

808
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 2: We'll be back with more with Stan Stan Tequila at

809
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: nature smart dot com. Right back, human, We're back. Stan

810
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: Tequila is our guest. Andy Peterson is in studio with

811
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 2: me along with Van Braeley and Mom. And Mom had

812
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 2: some questions but I can't talk her into asking them,

813
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: asking stand himself, Stan, I'm looking at the pictures you

814
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: sent me, man, They're cool, but they are really really

815
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: neat the are things all in spring plumage now up there?

816
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: As far as water following.

817
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 4: That, well, it was full on winter when I was

818
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 4: left there last night. So in fact, the drive back

819
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 4: from Homer up to Anchorage was quite heroin because it

820
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 4: was snowing like mad and everything's quite frozen still. I mean,

821
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 4: it's not like here at all. In fact, got off

822
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 4: the airplane there went, oh my, nice, nice weather here,

823
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 4: and that was at five o'clock this morning, because it

824
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 4: was really cold there and the wind it was. It

825
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 4: was challenging, it really was. It was full on winter there.

826
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: Well, what about the eagles center up there? Are they

827
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 2: just wintering there or do they just up there?

828
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 4: They're living there and they're just starting to pair up

829
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 4: and they're starting to get into nesting, a lot of

830
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 4: our eagles here are already nesting. So it's not like

831
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 4: a universal thing like they all start on, you know whatever.

832
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 4: It may be March first.

833
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 2: Or something like that.

834
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 4: Again, as they mature, some of them, the more mature

835
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 4: ones nest earlier. The less mature ones nest later, and

836
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 4: some of them don't even have a mate, so they're

837
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 4: not going to nest at all, and some of them

838
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 4: need to still get territories and things. So that's kind

839
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 4: of a hodgepodge of things. We have some eagles that

840
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 4: are just their chicks are hatching right now, and somewhere

841
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 4: are just starting to find nests or build nests too.

842
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 4: So it's a kind of a wide variety of things

843
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 4: like that. Think of them as all individuals, and they

844
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 4: all are kind of running on different clocks and different

845
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 4: you know, experiences, and different timelines and and so that's

846
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 4: how it works. It's not it's not a is like, Okay,

847
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 4: it's March first, everybody nest, you know that. That's just

848
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 4: not how it is in nature. Everything's there's so many

849
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 4: variables when it comes to these types of things.

850
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: Oh what about the eagle. I'm seeing a picture the

851
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: head of an eagle looking up with its beak open,

852
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: but the top beak is curled down. Does that grow

853
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 2: continuously and they have to do something to file that

854
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 2: off like a beaver with teeth?

855
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 4: Yes, all the birds have that have The bill continues

856
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 4: to grow and they need to through eating and manipulating

857
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 4: sticks in the nest and all these different things that

858
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 4: they do. They need to wear that down. Now, birds,

859
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 4: these raptors that are in captivity that are used as

860
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 4: you know, educational ambassadors, they need to have their bills

861
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 4: filed down, usually with a like a drummll tool, which

862
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 4: called coping. Now, you remember I was a director of

863
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 4: the Nature Center. We had a bard owl as an ambassador,

864
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 4: you know, education bird, and once a year we had

865
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 4: to bring him in and they would use a drummle

866
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 4: tool and and file down his bill because it would

867
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 4: start to grow too much and overgrow. Because he's in captivity,

868
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,959
Speaker 4: he's not doing all the things that a wild bird

869
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 4: would be doing, which would naturally wear down the bill.

870
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, they through their activities they need to be

871
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 4: able to do that. They need to be able to,

872
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 4: you know, wear down their bills otherwise it will overgrow.

873
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 2: Well, what about like the merganz er that you have

874
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: a photo of. I think it's a merganser, but the

875
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: pointed b, yes, pointed b people that do the same thing.

876
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 2: Does that keep growing? It?

877
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 4: It does, But that's a different type of those Those

878
00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 4: begansers have a serrated edge to their bill because these

879
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 4: are fish eating ducks, so they're you know, they they'll

880
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 4: go after small fish in order to hold on to them.

881
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 4: They have what looks like teeth on the edge of

882
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 4: their bill. They are not teeth, These are not mammals.

883
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 4: These are birds, and so no birds have teeth, but

884
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 4: they have what is the edge of their bill modified

885
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,479
Speaker 4: to look like and act like teeth, which I find

886
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 4: fascinating too, because generally speaking, teeth are heavy. Birds need

887
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 4: to fly. If you have too many heavy parts, you

888
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 4: can't fly. So therefore everything's lightweight. And what they do

889
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 4: is they replace that, you know that those teeth with

890
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 4: a lightweight bill, and but you still need something to

891
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 4: act like teeth, so you modify your bill over time,

892
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 4: you know, through evolution, to have these little structures on

893
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 4: there so that they act like teeth. And that's I

894
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 4: find that fascinating.

895
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 2: Well it do birds ever get overweight? I mean, if

896
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 2: you're if you you've like an eagle nest that I

897
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 2: drive by quite often, and the heroines are all nests.

898
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 2: As a rookery right there, I would think that they

899
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: got way too much food. And if they have a

900
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: plentyful food source, would they put on weight?

901
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 4: So still there's birds will put on extra weight for migration.

902
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 4: I'm i'm I'm reading some studies right now on bird

903
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 4: migration and how much weight they have to put on.

904
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 4: And it's a real balancing act between losing their aerodynamics,

905
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 4: meaning they're so heavy that flying costs them more energy

906
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 4: than it does to you know, not have that weight,

907
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 4: and that's a problem for him uh and they become

908
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 4: less aerodynamic. U. So having too much weight is a

909
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 4: problem for birds. They can't be you know, overweight, you know,

910
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 4: kind of you know, when we compare them to people,

911
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 4: you know, it doesn't really work out because you know,

912
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 4: we can be overweight and yet not, you know, we

913
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 4: can still have mobility and still move around. These birds cannot.

914
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 4: So they have a limit to the amount of weight

915
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 4: that they can put on. And depending on the species,

916
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 4: the smaller you are, the less fat you can put on.

917
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 4: The bigger you are, the more fat you can put on,

918
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 4: if that makes sense. So little, tiny humming birds can

919
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 4: only put on a very small amount of fat to

920
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 4: be able to fly and still be able to you know,

921
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 4: move and do what needs to be done, whereas a

922
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 4: bigger bird like a bald ego can put on more

923
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 4: fat because they have more strength to be able to

924
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 4: carry that extra weight around with them too.

925
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 2: So that nature does that I think limits the amount

926
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: of weight they can put on.

927
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, exactly. And there's so much more to this

928
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 4: also because when birds are migrating, because a lot of

929
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 4: you know, a lot of birds are showing up now,

930
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 4: we have lots of red wing blackbirds moving in, lots

931
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 4: of robins are moving in. We're definitely seeing lots of

932
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 4: you know, migratory action going on. These birds are showing

933
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 4: up ready to breed, and their reproductive organs during the

934
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 4: migration process. As these birds move up, they are reproductive

935
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 4: organs which were dormant during the winter time will rehydrate

936
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 4: and start to function again because in the winter time

937
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 4: these birds are not breeding and like for example, at

938
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 4: the end of the summer, when nesting is all done with,

939
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 4: they have to migrate a thousand or more miles. You know,

940
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 4: bringing your fully functional reproductive organs with you doesn't really

941
00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 4: make a whole lot of sense because it's just going

942
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 4: the way you done. So those organs actually dehiss or

943
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 4: dehydrate down and become non functional for the winter time.

944
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 4: So when they migrate in the fall, reproductive organs both

945
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 4: male and female have shrunk down, no longer functioning lightweight.

946
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 4: Then they can go down to winter because you know,

947
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 4: why drag you junk around if you don't need it.

948
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 4: And then you get to the wintertime, and then in

949
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 4: the spring, when you're heading back up, you rehydrate those

950
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 4: reproductive organs and get them active again. So by the

951
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 4: time you reach your nesting grounds, you're ready to go

952
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 4: and you're fully operational, ready to you know, make things happen.

953
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 4: So it's really a on the surface of things, it

954
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 4: seems so basic, but yet it's so complex what's going

955
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 4: on with these migrations and then the reproduction that goes

956
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 4: on with it too. So I mean, take a look

957
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 4: at those owls that I've got the camera on. I mean,

958
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 4: here's a female who's who's becoming more mature, and as

959
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 4: she becomes more mature, she's more successful at reproducing two

960
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 4: take for example, most of these birds have on average

961
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 4: about a forty percent mortality rate. Some some birds have

962
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 4: upwards of fifty percent mortality rate, meaning one out of

963
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 4: two of their babies are not going to make it

964
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 4: to one year of age. So in order for them

965
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 4: to reproduce enough times to not only replace themselves but

966
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 4: also add to the population. They have to breed over

967
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 4: many years to be able to get up the enough

968
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 4: you know to get So let's just me simple math.

969
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 4: You your first year, your brand new great horn owls,

970
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 4: you reprouce with one egg, okay, and of fifty percent survival,

971
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 4: meaning you know, there's a chance that your baby may

972
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 4: not make it. The neighbors maybe may make it. But

973
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, So you haven't reap. You

974
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 4: haven't replaced yourself. So the next year you have maybe

975
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 4: two and one of them makes it. So now you've

976
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 4: replaced one adult. So the next year you've replaced you

977
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 4: know with Then now you've replaced both of the adults,

978
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 4: but you still haven't added to the population. You're only

979
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 4: replacing yourselves. And then so it would be like in

980
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 4: the fourth year or the fifth year, when you start,

981
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 4: you know, hitting your stride, that's when you start to

982
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 4: not only replace yourself but also add to the population

983
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 4: of those of that species too. And this is the

984
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 4: same thing for hummingbirds all the way up to condors.

985
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 4: Everything is like that. Hummingbirds are really on a knife's

986
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 4: edge because these birds live very short periods of time

987
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 4: and reproduction is so important to them, and if they don't,

988
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 4: I mean, if they're only going to make it three

989
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 4: years and they're reproducing with two babies and you got

990
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 4: fifty percent mortality rate, only one of them are making it.

991
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 4: You know, it's the population of hummingbirds can go up

992
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 4: and down, like with the change of the winds, basically

993
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 4: because it's so on a knife's edge the amount of

994
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 4: population of these hummingbirds have. So it's there's a lot

995
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 4: to think about. And this is why I don't get

996
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 4: much sleep at night. This is what I'm worried about

997
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 4: and I think about all the time. So it's just

998
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 4: one of those things that the more you know, the

999
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 4: more you realize, Wow, there's a lot going on out there.

1000
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 2: There is, especially in spring, it seems there's everything is

1001
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: really busy, everything, and they're busy all year long. Does

1002
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 2: you've always told us stand is that they have to

1003
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: eat and they have to survive or to do.

1004
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1005
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so much going on, and then the springtime

1006
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 4: there's everything's happening. It's like the floodgates open and everything

1007
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 4: happens all at once. Yeah, and there's so much happening

1008
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 4: at that you know, in the spring is starting right now.

1009
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 4: I mean, just take a look at these great horn owls.

1010
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 4: You got three chicks already, and I find it absolutely

1011
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 4: amazing to see. How I mean, if you tune in

1012
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 4: over the next couple of weeks, you're gonna see how

1013
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 4: fast they're going to grow. And next thing, you know,

1014
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 4: the mom's not gonna be in the nest with him.

1015
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 4: It's just gonna be the three chicks sitting there. So

1016
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 4: it's it's gonna be fun to watch now. And then

1017
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 4: we're gonna have to go.

1018
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 2: But the flying squirrel camera, those critters they should begin.

1019
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: Will they nest now in the spring too?

1020
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 3: Yes?

1021
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they're gonna they Yeah, they may already have

1022
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 4: young who are too young to come out of their

1023
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 4: nest yet, so they may already have babies. I'm working again.

1024
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 4: I'm working on a new camera to install inside of

1025
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 4: a nest box for the flying squirrels. And so if

1026
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 4: I can make this happen, I hope to buible a

1027
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 4: live stream inside of a nest box for these flying

1028
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 4: squirrels and to you know, watch their family grow too.

1029
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 4: So you know, wish me luck. We'll see how it works.

1030
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,919
Speaker 2: So if people want, if they want to attract them

1031
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: to their place, the flying squirrels, just as I did.

1032
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 2: It's not rocket science, is.

1033
00:59:58,360 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 5: No.

1034
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 4: First of all, be realistic. You have to have large,

1035
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 4: mature trees. We're talking big ones, because they need nesting cavities.

1036
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 4: They need natural cavities and trees in which to live in.

1037
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 4: So if you're in a relatively new suburban, you know

1038
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 4: type development, you're not gonna have flying squirrels. But if

1039
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 4: you've got you know, mature trees, and you could be

1040
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 4: in you could be in South Saint Paul, you can

1041
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 4: be in South Minneapolis, you can be in you know,

1042
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 4: rich Field, doesn't matter as long as you have mature trees.

1043
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 4: And most of those neighborhoods do. You have flying squirrels,

1044
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 4: no doubt. So then all you do is put up

1045
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 4: feeders for them. But then you have to put out

1046
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 4: the food at night. Is you put out during the day,

1047
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 4: all the birds will get to it. Yeah, all the

1048
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 4: squirrels will get to it. The gray squirrels will get

1049
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 4: to it. So you put them out at night and

1050
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 4: the flying squirrels will come in, and I guarantee you

1051
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 4: you'll have them.

1052
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: How far can they fly or glide? They don't really fly,

1053
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 2: but how far can they travel between trees?

1054
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 4: Quite a long distance. It all depends on how high

1055
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 4: they go up to start. So the higher they go

1056
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 4: and the higher they take off, they jump off the tree,

1057
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 4: which is insane if you think about it, because these

1058
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 4: are little tiny squirrels fit in the palm of your

1059
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 4: hand and climb sixty eighty feet up in a tree

1060
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 4: and then jump off into the darkness, you know. I mean,

1061
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 4: it's it's like, what the heck are you thinking? You know,

1062
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 4: and then they glide down to the next tree. They

1063
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 4: have really good ability to steer too, and they'll steer

1064
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 4: down and be able to break at the last second

1065
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 4: and you know, and before having an impact with a

1066
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 4: tree and then land on the tree. So it's really fascinating.

1067
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 2: See.

1068
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 4: I've running two cameras on my flying squirrel camera at night.

1069
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 4: One is tight on the feeder and one is kind

1070
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 4: of loose on the feeder, so you can actually see

1071
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 4: him flying in on the looser camera, so you see,

1072
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 4: you can see the black space around, you know, the darkness,

1073
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 4: and because of the infrared, you can actually see them

1074
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 4: coming in in the middle of the night.

1075
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: Stan will let you go to sleep, buddy, but I

1076
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: do thank you for staying us, and I know it's

1077
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 2: going to be a thankful sleep too. But we'll catch

1078
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 2: up a couple week in the shower. Goneous sleep.

1079
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, all right, we'll talk to them.

1080
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 5: Thanks.

1081
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 2: Right, you've got that Stan tequila. Check out the cameras.

1082
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 2: Check them out, because I think you're going to be

1083
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: pretty pleased with it and pretty excited, and you'll be

1084
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 2: addicted like a lot a lot of other people too.

1085
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: We'll take a pause, be back with Tackle Terry after this.

1086
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 2: We're back twenty eight minutes after the hour of seven o'clock.

1087
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 2: Andy Peterson and family are in studio with me today.

1088
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 2: Brett Blakemore is behind the glass taking wonderful care of us,

1089
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: and we're managing to keep him awake and sleep was

1090
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 2: in short supply on his in his world too.

1091
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 10: She'll never agreed to go out for that one more

1092
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 10: little late ten one more.

1093
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: No, it's a little bit more. Okay, all right, you're

1094
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: doing a great job. They'll hold on also agree, let's

1095
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 2: go to our next guest, because Tackle Terry joins us. Now, Tackle,

1096
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 2: are you on the water on the ice or standing

1097
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 2: looking at it someplace.

1098
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 7: I'm standing and looking at it right now.

1099
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well it won't be long, you think so.

1100
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it's trips. I've heard some comments about some

1101
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 7: of the lakes really opening up around the shore lines,

1102
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 7: and it's going to be very, very dependent. But there's

1103
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 7: basically there's nobody on the ice at all. And I

1104
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 7: guess I wouldn't be out there either.

1105
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: No, no, not unless you'll like to look at the

1106
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 2: bottom of the ice from the different different angles.

1107
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 7: That's exactly. But after today's temperatures, I think we're and

1108
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 7: it's quite windy here, I think we'll want to see

1109
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 7: ice out here very quickly.

1110
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 2: That's not a bad thing, my friend. But the only

1111
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 2: thing is terry when when the lakes first open up,

1112
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: people get really excited to go. But a lot of

1113
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 2: the buoyze aren't out. A lot of stuff floating around

1114
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 2: on the water is left over from ice is out there,

1115
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 2: So you have to be pretty careful.

1116
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, you really do. I think you have to just

1117
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 7: use a lot of common sense and just you probably

1118
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 7: don't want to go on full trottle on the body

1119
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 7: of wandering to see You're real sure if you know it.

1120
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 7: But yes, you're exactly right, and that's something we really

1121
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 7: have to look out for. We fished the river and

1122
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 7: there was pumps of ice floating down the river and

1123
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 7: an individual hit that ice and shirt off the brand

1124
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 7: new lower Union is motor.

1125
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that hurts out all.

1126
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 7: The big time, right, getting towed back and that's a

1127
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 7: big outway and big expense.

1128
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 2: Yes it is. That's yeah, that's too bad. That is

1129
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: too bad. I've had not done that, but I have had.

1130
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: When you see a wing dam and you're pushing the

1131
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 2: when you're going too fast and you push the tilt

1132
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 2: button and you want that engine to go up right now,

1133
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 2: it just drag, it does, crawls up.

1134
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 7: Then you lose a right, that's exactly right. That's where

1135
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 7: you have to be so cautious. You know, fishly river system,

1136
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 7: or you've got all that debris floating down, you know,

1137
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 7: branch is whatever it may be. That's why you have

1138
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 7: to be really cautious. You know at this time of

1139
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 7: the year and the river is open. Is that we

1140
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 7: have to just use a lot of commonants. Don't be

1141
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 7: in a hurry on. It's if you know that the

1142
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 7: lake or the river system is not having a lot

1143
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 7: of debris.

1144
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 2: Will you fish for shore before things get cranking?

1145
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 7: Oh, yes, no question about it. Yes, I already got

1146
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 7: a couple of lakes picked out.

1147
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 2: Ah okay, what do you would you fish for fan fish?

1148
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 7: Yeah? I think, no question about it. Except for the

1149
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 7: river system it'll be a little bit different. I get there.

1150
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 7: But now you can fish for walls and sawder. But yes,

1151
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 7: definitely for sun fishing, crapies and crap you can have

1152
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 7: an awfully good bite at this time of the year.

1153
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 2: Well, it's pretty early though, isn't.

1154
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 7: It, Terry, Yes, it is, but you know, one no

1155
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 7: water starts to warm up. These fish are going to

1156
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 7: start to migrate towards the shallows, and you can have

1157
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 7: some very very productive fishing, you know, especially if you

1158
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 7: can find an area of words the sun is beating

1159
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 7: where the water is a little bit warmer. Many many

1160
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 7: times you can have an awesome bite. And then besides

1161
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:32,959
Speaker 7: that there's nobody out there.

1162
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 2: No, that's true, that's true. What about for a bait?

1163
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 2: Would you go live bait or artificial for pan fish?

1164
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 2: Now or early?

1165
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 7: Probably at this time of the year, I would go

1166
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 7: artificials for crappies, and then also some I use use waxworms.

1167
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 7: You can definitely try a plastic with you know, a

1168
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 7: prosea that doesn't have a lot of vibration in it,

1169
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 7: but just water is still cool, so that's going to

1170
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 7: really slow down that activity level of fish. And then

1171
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 7: you know the wax room and then cropy minutes. But

1172
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 7: I wouldn't spend a ton of time with crappy minutes.

1173
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 7: I have a tendency goal with sort of that ice

1174
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 7: fishing approach of wax rooms, and you could sure try

1175
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 7: any other type of grab.

1176
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 2: Will the the crappies and that if you've got russias

1177
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 2: or old vegetation, won't they pull into that too to feed?

1178
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 7: Or no question about it, Yes they sure will. You know,

1179
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 7: any place that's going to offer a little bit warmer water,

1180
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 7: that's going to offer some sort of food for those fish,

1181
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 7: that's where they're going to be. You can have some

1182
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 7: unbelievable success in some of those bull rushes or right

1183
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 7: along the edges and everything too. Is is any kind

1184
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 7: of sort of a back day anything that's going to

1185
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 7: warm up. But they do say if you're fishing a day,

1186
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 7: you know, if there's any overhanging trees, if there are

1187
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 7: some docks, that are already out of maybe they haven't

1188
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 7: pulled up. There gonna be places to even rocks where

1189
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 7: it's going to warm up a little bit quicker. They

1190
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 7: can be extremely extremely productive, especially for crappies.

1191
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 2: Oh, we used to fish crappies early in the spring.

1192
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: We catch bullheads to all kinds of them because I

1193
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 2: think they were just coming into spawn or something. I

1194
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 2: have no idea, but yeah, there's.

1195
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 7: A I have quite a few questions about, you know,

1196
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 7: where are the bullheads and you know, and there's a

1197
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 7: lot of people that do fish them, and I think

1198
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,879
Speaker 7: there's just certain lakes that are really offer that variety

1199
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 7: of specie right now. And because for some reason, there's

1200
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 7: some lakes that don't have hardly any bullet and there

1201
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 7: are some that do have quite a suessential amount. And

1202
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 7: these fish I will definitely bite at this sound of

1203
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 7: their hand also too, so a large amout bass bell.

1204
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know you used to catch well, we

1205
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 2: would catch little bass in the shallows early on, right

1206
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 2: along with crappies too. When you're looking for crappies, oh.

1207
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, you know here again too, it's all ready

1208
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,879
Speaker 7: to work water temperatures and then two foods or or whatever.

1209
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 7: There's foods that should be fish.

1210
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1211
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got to be spooky now this time of

1212
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 2: year or two though, aren't they.

1213
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 7: Oh yes, especially when they're really shadow like this. Yes,

1214
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 7: it can be extremely spooky. And by the way, to

1215
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 7: when we're talking shallow, they can be in just a

1216
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 7: foot to two feet of water.

1217
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 2: With the crappies that come in when they're the jet

1218
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 2: jet black. Is that a species of fish or is

1219
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: that have to do with the spawning cycle when.

1220
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:42,719
Speaker 7: They're jet set black, that's definitely a spawning cycle. Okay,

1221
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 7: generally when you're catching those, you're gonna have some pretty

1222
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:45,839
Speaker 7: nice labs.

1223
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they they seem like they show up overnight too.

1224
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 7: Oh yes, yes, yeah, they're really a pretty fish, you know,

1225
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 7: the real black sided crappies and then the red gills.

1226
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 7: They're just very just enjoyable to catch and there two

1227
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 7: if you're really catching them, just cheap enough to eat

1228
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 7: and that the risk go, especially when they're getting ready

1229
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 7: to spawn.

1230
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 2: My oldest son gets pretty upset with me when I

1231
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 2: try to lift them into the boat because they usually

1232
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 2: drop off and then that's not a high thing for

1233
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 2: He didn't like that, so he wants a net, all

1234
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 2: of them, and I don't care if they drop off

1235
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 2: or not. Very honestly.

1236
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 7: I don't either. But no, you're right. If you don't

1237
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 7: want to take some fish home, it's a good idea

1238
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 7: to use a net generally speaking, to use that, you know,

1239
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 7: the short handle, almost like a trout net.

1240
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree. Of course, You're truly only has

1241
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: one that it's all for all fish, and that big

1242
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 2: old net comes out and is putting in these little

1243
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 2: crappies and trying to scoop them up. It's the net,

1244
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 2: the net, yes it is. It is the one and

1245
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 2: only that, But so it goes.

1246
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 7: There's a lot to be said about a net, So

1247
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 7: if you're going to buy one, make sure that you

1248
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 7: get a net that's going to land a fish that

1249
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 7: you're fishing for. The hoop size, also, the netting something

1250
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 7: that's going to resist the crank bait tangles. And then

1251
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,759
Speaker 7: along with that too is a hot extend and handle

1252
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 7: on those nets.

1253
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, bigger boats, Yeah no, I I totally agree, Terry.

1254
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 2: As far as getting tangled in the fiber net, well,

1255
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 2: you get a fish in a pretty decent sized fish

1256
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 2: and they roll around in it with a crank bait

1257
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 2: and the hook stick it out. That means you have

1258
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 2: about ten minutes that you're not going to be fishing.

1259
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 7: That's exactly right. I've been in those situations where I

1260
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 7: actually had to take a knife and cut the hoop

1261
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 7: done the hooks out of that net, especially treble hooks.

1262
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 7: Now you've got a net with a whole yep, and.

1263
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 2: It's surprising the fish finds that hole pretty easily.

1264
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 7: Oh yes, they can slip through, you know, some pretty

1265
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 7: small holes. And that's where we really have to you know,

1266
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 7: just if you're going to buy a net, just invest

1267
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 7: in a very very good net, a lightweight net. And

1268
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 7: I sort of stayed away from high half had I

1269
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 7: do use rubber nets, but the new tangle free crank

1270
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 7: bait resistant nets are very very good to use now.

1271
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,719
Speaker 2: So some of them are pretty flat and their rubber

1272
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 2: I don't know about that because I had I tried

1273
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: one once and the fish flopped right out of it.

1274
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, generally speaking, that's a good point. Make sure you

1275
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 7: get a net that's deep enough for the fish you're

1276
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 7: going to be fishing for, and yes, they can slide

1277
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 7: right out of it. And if you get us smaller north.

1278
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 7: Sometimes they can get right through those holes. You know,

1279
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 7: they'll slip right through. But the biggest factor one is

1280
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 7: they're heavy. And number two they're usually a shallow net

1281
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 7: if they had a real deep netting, if you pretty heavy.

1282
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 2: So Terry, the first time when you go, h are

1283
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 2: you going to be from shore? You're going to be

1284
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 2: from a boat? Some short okay?

1285
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 7: Fishing crappies, your crappies and sunfish boat, depending on you know,

1286
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 7: the weather commissions the lake, but you can have you

1287
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 7: can catch a lot of boat species of fish, especially

1288
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 7: at this time. You know, when you hit it just

1289
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:29,839
Speaker 7: right with the water temperatures, it can be awfully, awfully good.

1290
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 2: Fishing fishing the river, what would you do well?

1291
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 7: If I was fishing the river for walleyes and uh

1292
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 7: sauger is, I would definitely because specific points uh you

1293
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 7: know in that body water inside tourans are excellent. Tip

1294
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 7: of the wind dams are good. U Any rock areas

1295
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 7: are good, but the inside points and then a big

1296
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 7: sometimes a big flat hoold those fish. And then here

1297
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 7: I would definitely use lead corn crank baits, but more

1298
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 7: so I would who's either jigs with mintos and generally

1299
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 7: speaking fat m as the biggest that you can and

1300
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 7: in vertical jig for those, and then casting to some

1301
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 7: of these specific locoes you have them. Just awesome fishing.

1302
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 7: And two here you have to use the right size

1303
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 7: jig because you do need especially with the current, you

1304
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 7: need to have a jig size that's going to tick

1305
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 7: the bottom.

1306
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 2: Excellent, Terry. I thank you for your time, buddy, and

1307
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 2: I wish you success when you get on the water.

1308
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 2: But it's a good idea now this time of year too,

1309
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: to wear a life jack at all the time.

1310
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 7: It sure is. And make sure you get your boat ready.

1311
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point if it's spent time

1312
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 2: getting it ready before you get on the water. That's

1313
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 2: and your wheelbarings too. That's the other thing. I just

1314
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 2: dead on the highway is not a fin I.

1315
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 7: Think you have two other things too, Bill, is that

1316
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 7: make sure I don't know how many time I seen

1317
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 7: people back in and they don't get their motor stoff

1318
01:14:58,280 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 7: if the battery is dead.

1319
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 2: Yep, you know that's not.

1320
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 7: And then the other thing too is check your tire pressure.

1321
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially after saying that one.

1322
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 7: And that includes a spare tire too.

1323
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 2: By the way, nothing like putting a spare tire on

1324
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 2: no air.

1325
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 7: On it, right, that's right, or half you know, half

1326
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 7: full of air. So those are just you know, a

1327
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 7: couple of them checking prayer rights and another uh, making

1328
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 7: sure that your all your electronics work your bilge. But

1329
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 7: there's a lot of things that we can do.

1330
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,600
Speaker 2: Not a bad idea to put some something on the

1331
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 2: on the motor itself, like your muffs and start it

1332
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 2: up before you get to.

1333
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 7: The lake, yes, exactly right. Or the other thing too,

1334
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 7: if you have a chance to go to a public

1335
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 7: access that's not really busy a lot of them aren't

1336
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 7: at this time of the year, is then it's just

1337
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 7: you know, back it and you don't even have to

1338
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 7: unload it and then just tied up. So you can

1339
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 7: do that too. And the other thing too is don't

1340
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 7: be in a big hurry if there's another boat there.

1341
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 7: I had a situation a few years ago. Uh, this's

1342
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 7: opening bass so but it was dual ramp and the

1343
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 7: individually he did not he really felt bad, but he

1344
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:07,799
Speaker 7: backed into my trailer.

1345
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:08,560
Speaker 5: M M.

1346
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, so that's an awe. But he was very congenial

1347
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 7: about it and so forth. So you know, sometimes we

1348
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 7: get so excited to get hit, and we were the

1349
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 7: only two at the ramp by the way. But it just,

1350
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 7: you know something, we just have to use a lot

1351
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 7: of comments. It's a little bit of patience. But do

1352
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 7: prep that boat before you go out.

1353
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 2: Sounds good, my friend, Thank you, and we'll talk in

1354
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks.

1355
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 7: Sounds great. Everybody, have a wonderful weekend. Get ready for

1356
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 7: open water fishing.

1357
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 2: There you go tackle. Terry joins us every other week

1358
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 2: on Fan Outdoors. We'll take a pause our final one

1359
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 2: of the morning and come back and have a conversation.

1360
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,440
Speaker 2: Andy Peterson is here along with brilliant fan and mom,

1361
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 2: and we're all here, so we will we'll talk about

1362
01:16:53,640 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 2: some things. Okay, we'll be right back. Last segment for

1363
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 2: this Saturday morning. Give it right here though, because in

1364
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 2: the zone follows us Tucker and sinecon it's always it's

1365
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 2: always a great conversation. And sometimes Trent Tucker doesn't always

1366
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:36,799
Speaker 2: agree with Davy and they'll have a discussion back and forth.

1367
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 2: So it's fun, but it's very very knowledgeable. Well like that.

1368
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 2: Remember it's the second day of spring. We're high today

1369
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 2: in the seventies. No matter where you are in Minnesota.

1370
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 2: It should be a great day. And if you want

1371
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 2: to get out, Turkey season opens in twenty five days.

1372
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 2: Fishing season opens in forty seven days, so you know,

1373
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 2: get out. You can wander around the countryside, look for

1374
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 2: some turkeys, look for some sign you got Andy, you're

1375
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 2: gonna Andy Peterson is here along with his family, really

1376
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 2: van and mom who doesn't want to talk. Oh shy, yes,

1377
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 2: big smile though. Uh were you out and look for

1378
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 2: turkeys at all?

1379
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 3: I will always got the eyes open driving to and

1380
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 3: from work and such like that. But uh, pretty much

1381
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 3: consistent as to where we're gonna be up at the

1382
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 3: farm near Hankley, Minnesota. So we'll just go up there

1383
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 3: and test the luck, and you know, get out in

1384
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 3: the evening, see where they're roosting, see where they put

1385
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 3: up for the night, and then sneak out the next

1386
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:55,879
Speaker 3: morning or put a blind out and cross your fingers.

1387
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 2: You know.

1388
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 3: Will you call the birds? Oh, let them sure, call yep.

1389
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 3: I don't think it ever hurts to call with turkeys.

1390
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 3: You know, I've only seen them either react negatively from

1391
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 3: the beginning, where they just don't really listen to your calling,

1392
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 3: or they come running right away. So It just depends

1393
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:22,759
Speaker 3: on depends on their mood, and that can change throughout

1394
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 3: your hunt too.

1395
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 2: Even so, yeah, well you used decoys, yep.

1396
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, usually a jake and a hen is all I

1397
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 3: have ever experimented with. I've I tried. Uh. One year

1398
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 3: I did the the used one of those scoot and

1399
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 3: shoot decoys where you crawl behind a full strut and

1400
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 3: had my bow with me and was able to get

1401
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 3: one doing that and once was enough.

1402
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 2: It took a lot of work. But you got to

1403
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 2: be awful careful if you're going to do that. Yeah,

1404
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 2: you got to have private land and know who's on

1405
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 2: it to you end up getting yourself shot. Yeah, that's

1406
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 2: a bad take. I'm not sure about a bow and

1407
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 2: arrow that that would not feel good at all. But yeah,

1408
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 2: I've never done that. I've never done it. I've had

1409
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 2: I've had some fun experiences. I remember one of them.

1410
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 2: I was hunting a long water body and I looked

1411
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 2: and I could see off in the distance. I had

1412
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 2: decoys out look off in a distance, and I saw

1413
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 2: this black thing and it was coming and I thought, oh,

1414
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 2: it's I think it's a turkey eyes it's a hand.

1415
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna and I got a little closer. Maybe

1416
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 2: it's a jake. I'm not shooting a jake. Tell myself,

1417
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 2: not shooting a jake. I got a little closer and

1418
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 2: I looked at it, and that beard was dragging at

1419
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 2: the ground back and forth, and my eyes opened up.

1420
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 2: And I remember somebody told me that they can hear,

1421
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 2: they can see so well that you better not blink.

1422
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 2: So I wasn't blanking. I wasn't like it. He kept

1423
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 2: coming close, and my gun was face to the left

1424
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 2: and he was coming to my right. So I was

1425
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 2: up a crick and no paddle. I couldn't move, and

1426
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 2: he walked within three feet of me, and he went

1427
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 2: into the into the water behind some brush, and I

1428
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 2: got a chance to to move my gun around and

1429
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,679
Speaker 2: went through the through the wall over the water.

1430
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 3: For you.

1431
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 2: He no, he went over the water because all he

1432
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 2: had to do was over his wings and just glide,

1433
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 2: jump and glide. By that time, I had the gun

1434
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 2: faced right, and this was along a ditch, and I

1435
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 2: shot as he was getting up out of the bank.

1436
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 2: Hit him. He rolled back into the water, floating down

1437
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 2: this current in the ditch. There's this knucklehead chasing him

1438
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 2: down the ditch, and I didn't even think I had. No,

1439
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 2: I couldn't see how if it was I stepped it

1440
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 2: could have been six feet deep for all I knew.

1441
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 2: I stepped into it and it just went over my

1442
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 2: leather boot and took another step and got it and

1443
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 2: got out what I was thinking afterwards, Hildebrand, that's not rocket,

1444
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 2: that's not the brightest bulb in the tree. Easier, You

1445
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 2: are obvious.

1446
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 3: Right, we had a little adrenaline overtake.

1447
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: You think, yeah, yeah, but it's it's so fun. It's

1448
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 2: really really fun, and we encourage people to go out.

1449
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 2: How did you start.

1450
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 3: Just tagging along with my dad? Okay, for sure, I

1451
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 3: mean he drugged me turkey hunting. I wasn't really you know,

1452
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 3: into it, but I would beg him to go deer

1453
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 3: hunting every year. He used to hang a archery stand

1454
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 3: or a platform portable right alongside his stand, or in

1455
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 3: a tree next to his And so wherever he put

1456
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 3: up a stand, he always had to put up too,

1457
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,799
Speaker 3: because I was right on his heels going everywhere.

1458
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 2: So I often wonder why people don't hunt from elevated stands?

1459
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 2: Do they? For turkeys?

1460
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 3: No, I haven't seen it, but it would work. I

1461
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 3: don't the same same thing out West. Western hunters don't

1462
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:19,759
Speaker 3: necessarily appreciate the tactic of sitting still or being patient

1463
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 3: in the tree stand, But it works.

1464
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 5: I know.

1465
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 2: I have a good friend who's in here quite most saturdays.

1466
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 2: He can't sit still. Does his name rhyme with Rob?

1467
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 2: He can't sit still? We hunted one place, a wildlife

1468
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 2: area of wooded area, and he came with me. He

1469
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 2: left and going to go down to my right, and

1470
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 2: we are I lost sight of him. Well, I'm sitting

1471
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 2: in the same place, just waiting and watching and listening.

1472
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, he came from my left. All

1473
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 2: of a sudden, About thirty minutes later, he came from

1474
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 2: my left. Bob, what are you doing?

1475
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 7: Well?

1476
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 2: I walked the whole thing, he says, But I found

1477
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 2: was morel mushrooms, and see. He couldn't have sat down

1478
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 2: very often. But he likes to move and groove, he says,

1479
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: moving group. Do you ever go mushrooming out at your farm?

1480
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 3: I've never done it at the farm, but at our house, yes, Oh,

1481
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 3: and Van and I we uh make a habit of that.

1482
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 3: And just kind of last year we didn't have I

1483
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 3: don't think. I found a one last year, and I've

1484
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 3: only found him one other time. But it was two

1485
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 3: years ago or.

1486
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 2: So, wasn't it.

1487
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 10: Uh yeah, it was two years ago, so it was

1488
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 10: my birthday. So we went out there. I was really

1489
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 10: being into mushrooming. I still kind of am cool. And

1490
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 10: we went out there and we found like a ton

1491
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 10: of morrels. We found like multiple different kinds, Like there

1492
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 10: were some light ones, there were some dark ones. There

1493
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 10: was even it's like weird tall one. But we were

1494
01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 10: just looking round. He spotted most of them.

1495
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 2: That's all right.

1496
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so then it's again almost like turkey hunting. I

1497
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 3: was just like, heym or mushroom. I'm not I never

1498
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 3: eate in one. I didn't really. I don't really have

1499
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 3: a taste for mushrooms. But after I found that first one,

1500
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 3: that was like, holy smokes, it's pretty fun.

1501
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 2: You know, it is fun. It is fun. I fell

1502
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 2: into a mother lord one time, turkey hunting in the

1503
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 2: bottom of this gully and your turkey hunt, yeah, ended. Well,

1504
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 2: I put my gun down and I'm crawling around getting

1505
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 2: these mushrooms and putting in my hat and the handkerchief

1506
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 2: I had. I lost my gun. Oh no, I had

1507
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 2: to come back. It took me about ten minutes to

1508
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 2: find it again. And do you think I can find

1509
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 2: that spot that those mushrooms were the next year? There's

1510
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 2: no way I couldn't do it. But it's really fun. Eric,

1511
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 2: my oldest has got a super super secret spot that

1512
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 2: he won't take me and he gets I think I

1513
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 2: got about three or four pounds of him last year.

1514
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 2: One year he got five pounds. I know that, but

1515
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 2: I like I like myrels. They're they're fight. You're right,

1516
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 2: it's addictive.

1517
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 3: Though I messed up to uh cleaning them. I don't

1518
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 3: know if I mean. I didn't scrub them out or

1519
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 3: soak them long enough. But they were a little gritty,

1520
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 3: but they the flavor was pretty dang good. Just dirty.

1521
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 2: Did you cut them in half?

1522
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1523
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 3: And I don't think I soaked him long enough for

1524
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 3: nstanim enough, but any more diligent with that, I suppose.

1525
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 2: Now you go look for him, it'll be harder to find.

1526
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,639
Speaker 3: Well, well, last year, that's that was the case.

1527
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 2: The gentleman that that showed me how to I look.

1528
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 2: For about five years, I didn't know what I was

1529
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 2: looking for. You walk around through the woods, you're just

1530
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 2: kind of glassing around. He took he took Bob and

1531
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 2: I Bob already knew how to do it what I didn't.

1532
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 2: And his name's Digger. And so we walked along and

1533
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 2: he said, you always pick up a stick or have

1534
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 2: a walking stick with you. And when you got to

1535
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 2: look down through the grass, you don't look over the

1536
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 2: top because you get used to looking down. When you

1537
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 2: find one, he says, you take that stick and you

1538
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 2: pointed at it, because those mushrooms are going to disappear,

1539
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 2: and and you throw your glove on the next one,

1540
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 2: and your glove, but don't move until you get them

1541
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 2: all marked and then go pick them up. Music's playing,

1542
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 2: which means we are just about out of time, and

1543
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 2: that's okay. Hey you guys, thank you for coming in.

1544
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it's great fun, really fun talking. I'm glad

1545
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 2: you came here to Mom had lots of smiles, and

1546
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 2: even if she was very silent, she's a little more

1547
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 2: talkative when the mics are off too.

1548
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:57,799
Speaker 3: Isn't that something?

1549
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 2: But Andy, thank you for coming in. I appreciate it, buddy.

1550
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 3: Thanks for having us. Billy always a good time.

1551
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 2: It is fun. It is fun. So for Andy Peterson

1552
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 2: or Van and Brealley and Mom too, and special thank

1553
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 2: you to Brett Blakemore. I'll leave you with this