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Speaker 1: Word's beenjam An O'Brien studio with us.

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Speaker 2: Ben.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you day, my friend.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing? Uh well, good see guys. Happy.

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Speaker 3: Nathaniel Hackett's working again day.

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Speaker 1: That would say is we're celebrat we're celebrating Nathaniel Hacket back.

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Speaker 2: In the league. I think in Denver we're celebrating. He's

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Speaker 2: working somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's that's fair. Uh you know so

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Speaker 1: if you didn't know, we were just talking about right

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Speaker 1: before we give in the hor Uh. Nathane Hackett is

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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals. Somebody's got to

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Speaker 1: win this game.

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Speaker 2: Well, I I say, congratulations. That's right to Nathaniel. I

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Speaker 2: played for his dad briefly and so and when when

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Speaker 2: Nathaniel was the head coach out here, Paul came out

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Speaker 2: and has spent some time with him. So I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: fond of I'm fond of him. But I I got

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Speaker 2: to say, I did not see this coming. The good

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Speaker 2: news is Sean Payton will get a chance to get

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Speaker 2: his revenge.

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Speaker 3: On Nate Hackett is the he Broncos play the Arizona

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Speaker 3: Cardinals in Arizona this coming season.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think he needs to revenge on Nate Hackett.

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Speaker 3: Because they lost after talking all that the worst coach

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Speaker 3: ever and then they lost.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I yeah, I suppose well, and if you're

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton, you probably haven't forgotten that. I believe in

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Speaker 2: his level of petty.

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Speaker 1: No, I believe that.

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Speaker 2: I think most coaches, honestly that certainly in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: probably college and oh, I don't know, maybe even in

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Speaker 2: high school. I think they they the famous sort of

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Speaker 2: uh phrase, now you keep receipts. I think most coaches

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Speaker 2: like will keep receipts. Although I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure that Sean Payton thinks that Hackett in any

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Speaker 2: way did him wrong. I think that game, you think

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Speaker 2: back to that game, I think that was the that

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Speaker 2: may have been the start of the realization for Sean that, okay,

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Speaker 2: I I'm not going to be good with this quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Rus that that game, there were and we talked about

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Speaker 2: it ad nauseum. There were two or three plays in

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Speaker 2: the game where you're like, oh boy, what what are

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Speaker 2: we doing here? Look?

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Speaker 1: Strip fumble touchdown when when.

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Speaker 2: There's pressure off the front side on that play that

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Speaker 2: open in the flat balls got to go to the back.

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Speaker 2: The ball didn't go to the back, and the quarterback

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Speaker 2: and got not only sacked but strip sack, as you said,

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Speaker 2: and the ball was picked up and returned for a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: And at that point the game, not that I remember,

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Speaker 2: it was a three point game and the Broncos had

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Speaker 2: not win, tie, then they were not.

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Speaker 1: And we saw Sewn on the sideline screaming at Russ.

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Speaker 2: Was that the game?

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Speaker 1: Well, you did that one, and then the Detroit line

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Speaker 1: the other Detroy was the other one. So both games

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Speaker 1: were moments where Shawn was screaming at Russ, but the

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Speaker 2: Before the Lions. I think, honestly, I think the Jets

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Speaker 2: game was the game. And again I'm guessing Sean has

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Speaker 2: never talked to me about this, nor do I expect

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Speaker 2: that game, as frustrating as it was, and you look

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's exactly right, and So it's not

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Speaker 1: that I don't want instead that I don't think that

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Speaker 1: to say you Hacket should work, right. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: in this profession, you will it this way.

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Speaker 2: It's better that he's not a talk show host, right,

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Speaker 2: more competition work you have done. Somebody's got to use

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Speaker 2: this microphone. Hi, welcome to the made Hacket Show. You never

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Speaker 2: know that.

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Speaker 1: The gold Ze? Oh build a bit on that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just weird because he's been an offensive

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Speaker 1: Like I think there's this six teams that he's been

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Speaker 2: Sometimes he's got to get somebody to give you a chance.

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Speaker 1: But isn't this like the case the case study or

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Speaker 1: I mean we made an argument about Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: Well you would say he was success. You would say

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Speaker 2: got hired here. That's fair point. Or that was one

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Speaker 2: of the main reasons that and Aaron Rodgers I think

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Speaker 2: I think the hiring practices of the NFL, especially when

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Speaker 2: it comes to filling out your staff, the head coach

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Speaker 2: familiar with. They're not all his air quote boys unquote.

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Speaker 2: But you're going to have and hopefully they're good football coaches,

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Speaker 2: They're going to be foxhole guys, guys you can depend

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Speaker 3: On the other hand, though, are you surprised that a

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Speaker 1: That's good?

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Speaker 2: Mean you're not a mic No, he's not. You got

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Speaker 2: Like what I mean, like specifically, what what did you

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Speaker 3: I don't have a ton of examples, like right in

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Speaker 2: The same spot, you know, more than once. Well, and

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Speaker 3: This just a terrible receiver or is this scheme is

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Speaker 3: I don't, It's just it didn't It didn't feel. It

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Speaker 2: It looked like he was trying.

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Speaker 3: To get in his bag a little too much and

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Speaker 2: I think It's interesting in the NFL because this time

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Speaker 2: of year, you know, head coach and head coaching openings

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Speaker 2: I said yesterday, probably before yesterday as well. I think

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Speaker 2: of it. Who recommended you, how what kind of you know,

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Speaker 2: what kind of foothold did they have in the NFL?

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Speaker 2: How much success did they had? And there are, as

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Speaker 2: we said, retreads, and there are I mean we've seen that.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Mike McCarthy hire. To me, I think

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Speaker 2: I think Mike's done a good job. He was a good,

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Speaker 2: the postseason that sort of shrunk. That may be partially

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Speaker 2: talking about, well, more opportunity for young guys. I mean,

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Speaker 2: let's let's talk about Robert Sala. Robert Sala presents really well.

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Speaker 2: He is an impressive dude. Right, I've seen him on line,

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Speaker 2: the head coach in Carolina Tennessee, So why did he

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Speaker 1: It's from a culture standpoint, Like the culture he brings

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Speaker 1: And then you want to see who he hires his OC,

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Speaker 3: They went from a first time offensive coach too and

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Speaker 3: recognizing their mistake and letting go of Mike Vrabel, So

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Speaker 2: That was was a disaster.

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Speaker 3: So you you know, you want somebody who's going to

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Speaker 2: I agree. I think this hire, to me is a

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Speaker 2: little bit like in a different sense, the Dan Campbell

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Speaker 2: But if you look strictly on, I want a guy

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Speaker 2: I like Robert sal I really do, And I think

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Speaker 2: it was a good hire. I mean, what was his

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Speaker 2: I mean, the winning percentage wasn't great, but he was

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Speaker 2: terms of who he wanted to bring in on the

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Speaker 2: Some of these guys, potential coaching candidates in the NFL

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Speaker 2: So he can't say that, But he can't say, you know,

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Speaker 2: He's got it. I mean, what he asked to do,

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Speaker 3: His podcast, Ryan Edwards presents Thunderclap, where he talks about

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Speaker 2: It's what Ryan Edwards caught. What what'd you say? My headphones?

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Speaker 3: Finished, Oh in the basement, in the basement, how quickly

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Speaker 3: Energetic super Bowl of all times, like.

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Speaker 2: The least energy. I listen, I love football. I'm absolutely

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Speaker 2: You're gonna know. That's right. You'll know this. You that's right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, but just like it's it's the Patriots, bro,

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Speaker 2: it's the Patriots. Yeah. I don't know what do you

437
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 2: want to talk about? How many yards Drake May is

438
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Speaker 2: gonna throw for? I don't know what's the ben e'reroprops? Guy?

439
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Speaker 2: What's the number? What's what's that's is there on the

440
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Speaker 2: Drake May Super Bowl? There are a number how many yards?

441
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Speaker 2: I don't have it from me, but I can pull

442
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Speaker 2: it up. I would say the number will be two,

443
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: like seventeen the passing yards for Drake May.

444
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Speaker 3: Yeah, right now it looks like two twenty five.

445
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Speaker 2: Okay, two twenty five, so I was eight under? Okay,

446
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: the under how many what's the passing yard is for

447
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, roughly the same he's. They don't have the

448
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 2: exact propout yet, but what they do.

449
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Speaker 3: Have is like the incrementals, like two hundred two twenty five,

450
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 3: two twenty five Drake May's minus one ten, which means

451
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 3: twenty five is the number.

452
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sam dargs minus one twenty five, so they think he'll.

453
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Speaker 3: Go over twenty five, but two fifties plus one fifty five,

454
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Speaker 3: so somewhere between two twenty five and two thirty for St.

455
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Speaker 2: Darl Yeah. I think both teams will come out honestly

456
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 2: and run the ball early. I think it's going to

457
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 2: be a game plan for Mike Vrabel and Josh McDaniels

458
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: that was similar, even though the weather's different most obviously,

459
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 2: but I mean, Drake May, you what you don't want

460
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 2: to do early in that game, I would think is

461
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: put him under pressure to where he makes a young,

462
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 2: a youthful decision that gets you into real trouble. So

463
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: I think you're going to see Ramandre Stevenson run the

464
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: ball a lot, some play action, quick passing game, much

465
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Speaker 2: like you saw against the Broncos, and I think Seattle

466
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 2: will try to do the same thing. They're a run first,

467
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: play action, a lot of snaps under center, hard play pass,

468
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: couple of boots, and I think, you know, my guess

469
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: is we'll talk about it tomorrow. For sure. My guess

470
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: is Seattle finds a way to win the game.

471
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Speaker 1: I feel pretty goodbout Seattle in this one. Today was

472
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Speaker 1: the first day for me. I mean, we were certainly

473
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Speaker 1: frustrated when the Broncos lost AFC Championship game.

474
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Speaker 2: That's one way to put it.

475
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Speaker 1: But today, watching some of the coverages out there in

476
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Speaker 1: San Francisco, this was the first day I started to

477
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: get kind of grumpy about it, to be honest, Yeah,

478
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: because then you realize how close it was.

479
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: They gave it away, Yeah, they did. They did.

480
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: You know, in earlier the week, when you know, some

481
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Speaker 1: of our local beat was out covering the Pro Bowl

482
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Speaker 1: and the guys that were in, you know, Corlon Sutton

483
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Speaker 1: and Gary Bowles and you know, Nick Benito Passertan, and

484
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: they were all talking about seeing all the stuff up

485
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: about the matchup and saying I'm angry, Well.

486
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Speaker 2: Should be, man, they I mean, honestly, that's why we

487
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 2: talked about it so often. When the Broncos found themselves

488
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: the number one seed, and and there were plenty of

489
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: people that said, oh man, I mean number one seed.

490
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: They're not a great team. They're the number one seed.

491
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 2: They have to find a way to win two home

492
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Speaker 2: games to go to the super Bowl. You have to

493
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Speaker 2: take advantage of opportunities that you have earned. Nobody gave

494
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 2: that seed to them. They earned it, and unfortunately in

495
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 2: the in the in the AFC Championship game, they just

496
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 2: didn't get it done.

497
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Speaker 1: I need to get back into this position. I think

498
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Speaker 1: we can all acknowledge them. It's gonna it's gonna be

499
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: a challenge. It's gonna be a bigger challenge than what

500
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Speaker 1: you had this year. You're gonna have to probably, I mean,

501
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be a better team. Like the

502
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: way they got there.

503
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: You might be a better team and not win four team.

504
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: That's exactly right.

505
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, tougher schedule, you might play better and not you know,

506
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 3: not hit the suffer schedule. You're not going to get

507
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 3: a bunch of backup quarterbacks for eight games in a row.

508
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 3: You're not going to have your defense pulling five turnovers

509
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Speaker 3: out of their backside.

510
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 2: You might have your defense creating more turnovers. Well, regular season,

511
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: you know, so yeah, I mean I feel I feel

512
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 2: good about the direction of the team. I think it's

513
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: an interesting Uh. Once Sunday is done. Now we're officially

514
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 2: into the offseason. What are the Broncos plans for free agency?

515
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 2: I think there will be a splash move, maybe splash

516
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 2: and a half move for the Broncos. And then the

517
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: draft comes up.

518
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: Which side of the ball do you think or do you.

519
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: Hope the splashes on defense? I think Devin Lloyd is

520
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: gonna be somebody they'll pursue. We'll see. That would be

521
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 2: my half splash the defensive side, I think there. I

522
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 2: think there will be a splash move in free agency

523
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: on offense. I'm trying to mouse up it to you.

524
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: I saw it, so I'm just not looking at you

525
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Speaker 1: in a well, you know, I don't want to.

526
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Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, I mean just in case. You know, sometimes

527
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 2: when a band performs in a live sort of setting,

528
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Speaker 2: they have they interact with the crowd, and I can

529
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: see Ryan saying, Dave once you come up and.

530
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Speaker 3: Password Flu was known for the crowd work. Yea, that

531
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Speaker 3: is what the legacy the lead behind.

532
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Speaker 2: I forget the name of the band. So when you

533
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: when you go away and you basically disband. When do

534
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Speaker 2: you come back? Do you come back into the same name?

535
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Speaker 1: If we want people to to recognize us, yeah.

536
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 2: Were there people people that recognized you before? So we

537
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 2: want to is patchwork bleuw the name we're going to

538
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: go with. I think we could do better.

539
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: I think we could go with some kind of like

540
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: Julio Glaciers cover bands like like, yeah, some kind of

541
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: name of I.

542
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Speaker 2: Mean, we want every single person that would have a

543
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: tendency to eat apple sauce at four thirty in the

544
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 2: afternoon to be in attendance when they first come back

545
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: and play eat apple sauce. Anything's wrong with it? I

546
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: love apples on the top, however you like it? Say it?

547
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: Why apple sauce?

548
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 2: Because it's it's tasty, it's tasty, and you know, people,

549
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: this is like to eat that all keeps your regular

550
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot, there's a lot of reasons

551
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 2: for apple sauce.

552
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: I'm not hammering it. I just wondered why specifically apple sauce.

553
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: People if people, you know, when people sometimes get older,

554
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: sometimes they their teeth don't get older with them, and

555
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 2: they may have to have like new teeth and so

556
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: it's eat Apple sauces is one of those things that

557
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 2: you you don't really need. In fact, if you didn't

558
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: want to put your new teeth in, you could enjoy

559
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 2: apple sauce and it's nutritious and it keeps you regular.

560
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: It is high fiber. Did you doubt me?

561
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: This is one of the best PSAs we ever had.

562
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: Drink. The little drink that you drink is that insured?

563
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: Do you drink in? Sure?

564
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: No? Not met him? Useful? It's insure, doesn't sure you've

565
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: had Insure before.

566
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: I don't think I've had insured before.

567
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: I'll bring you one to listen tomorrow. I'm gonna be

568
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Speaker 2: off on Friday. Tomorrow's my last day, so sort of

569
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: so I'm going to bring you and insure tomorrow. You

570
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: have it to try it out.

571
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: Regular.

572
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: Well, I think I think there's multiple benefits. Frankly, okay,

573
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: word of that hat, you guys now turn it on me. Okay, No, No,

574
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: I just want to know as long as I need to.

575
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I was gonna go get a haircut that I.

576
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: Was like, why not? Illinois?

577
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: Right? You let your hair like grow like gold. I'll

578
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: cut it before I go to the comline like buzz cut.

579
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 3: I'll go back to short hair.

580
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well people recognize him now at his slim poetry readings.

581
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: Band is gonna gonna take off here, so nice.

582
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: If he takes off the hat, nobody was surprised.

583
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 3: I got the Enrique crack in and you didn't make

584
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: a joke about wearing the same beanie from the video.

585
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still focused on the apple sauce text

586
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: line is great. I eat sixty four ounces of apple

587
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: sauce a week, and I'm strong like an ox love that.

588
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: Are we sure that's the apple sauce? I mean, I

589
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: don't know. That feels like a lot of sugar. Isn't

590
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: apple sauce like loaded with sugar? The apple part. It's

591
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: not like good sugar. Is it all good?

592
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: Shit? It's fruit toast. You don't I tell you you're

593
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: bagging on apple sauce.

594
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: For bagging apples. I'm asking what.

595
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: He's gonna anti fruit vegan?

596
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: Just sixty four ounces of apple sauce?

597
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: What do you? I mean? You know what he meat?

598
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: Now?

599
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: You're killing apple sauce. What do you eat? Beating cherries?

600
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 2: You like those? No, they've got seeds in them.

601
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 3: I don't like the seeds or pits, whatever they do

602
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 3: it he's an anti fruit type.

603
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't an anti identite. Cherries are fine.

604
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: Here you go. We have a text here for you too.

605
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: Seven nine six four one. I'd like to ask all

606
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: of your take on what you perceived happened in the

607
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: coach's mine, maybe knowing his personality or his willingness to risk.

608
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: My question is, why do you believe that he felt

609
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: a ten nothing lead wasn't going to work or was

610
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: being greedy with the backup quarterback? Seeing if there's any

611
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: insider knowledge here, I.

612
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: Think he thought that they could get those yards and

613
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: that you know, they could get to fourteen. And I

614
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 3: think he felt like the defense was playing at a

615
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: level that he didn't feel like New England could.

616
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: Get the fourteen, which of course they didn't. That would

617
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Speaker 2: be my.

618
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: More or less educated guests on it. You know, hide

619
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Speaker 3: in sight, I think you would have gone the other direction.

620
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, one of those things where he

621
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: had a chance to take it from one score to two,

622
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: but you know, fourteen points would have won that game,

623
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Speaker 3: you know, And I think that's where I think that's

624
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: where his mine was.

625
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he'd been going for it on fourth

626
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: and short in plus territoriatory all season. Yeah, it wasn't.

627
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: This wasn't news, This wasn't this wasn't a departure. This

628
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: wasn't all of a sudden, we're gonna be a different team.

629
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: And maybe you should have been a different team with

630
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback, but that's not who he is, so

631
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: going forward and fourth and short and plus territory. It

632
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: didn't surprise me whatsoever. The play call, I think was

633
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: a little bit of surprising to all of this, including Sewan,

634
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: who said he didn't like it after the I mean

635
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: it's retrospectively, but yeah, I feel like he felt as

636
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: though the entire tilt of the game was in their

637
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: favor at that point. The offense was playing better than

638
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: their offense, the defense was playing better. Everything was in

639
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: position that if you can get a two touchdown lead,

640
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: you felt like that was gonna be enough for the game.

641
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: It was interesting though, with the comments about the weather,

642
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: because it did seem like postgame with Sean maybe he

643
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: didn't think it was going to be a severe and

644
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: even listening to uh passer Tan out on radio road

645
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: this week, he was making comments about the way they're saying,

646
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: we didn't. We weren't really aware that it was going

647
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 1: to be that significant.

648
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: Well Sean was, okay, my guess. My guess is that

649
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,239
Speaker 2: Sean certainly was. I think it's I think what you

650
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: two guys said it is true. I think he felt

651
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: like we had two score here lead, here go in

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Speaker 2: fourteen to nothing, we'll be able. I mean, we're going

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Speaker 2: to get at least a couple of field goals worst case.

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Speaker 2: So now all of a sudden, it's twenty. Can the Patriots,

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Speaker 2: given what I've seen with the defense, score that many

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Speaker 2: points to beat us? And I think he said no.

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Speaker 2: I mean, in retrospect, I think you with a backup

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Speaker 2: quarterback and the way your defense was playing, I would

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Speaker 2: have been inclined to kick it and go up ten

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Speaker 2: and force that second year quarterback to prove to me

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Speaker 2: he can deal with what he's facing with his Broncos defense.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have Jim Gray joining us next