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Speaker 1: Cut up on a Friday snort win for Pa.

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Speaker 2: It's a feast of.

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Speaker 1: Sorts on a Friday TimberTech Setlist TimberTech dot Com. Eleven

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Speaker 1: AM Alex Lewis of the Athletics is gonna be in

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Speaker 1: studio Prior to that chart. We're gonna check in with

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Speaker 1: charts from Utah, not only quasi related news, but Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl props with the game this weekend and breaking everything

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Speaker 1: down with charts for an hour at ten kJ R Radio.

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Speaker 1: Fan Family, Iheartfamily out West. Hugh millan decade plus in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, analyzes Seahawks football. We're gonna chat with him

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Speaker 1: and talk about maybe Sam Darnold hoisting to Lombardi this

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Speaker 1: weekend and joining me now in studio as he does

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Speaker 1: on Fridays. Feels like forever, like six oh seven ish

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Speaker 1: really since he started with the Viking ched Greenway.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, brother, Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I was like og Padbay days, like that was my

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Speaker 3: preseason game. I started coming in doing radio, start cutting

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Speaker 3: my teeth, and I was actually excited to see mister.

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Speaker 1: I thought PM is gonna be in the today.

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Speaker 2: He's uh, he's out today.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be returning on Monday, and just some

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Speaker 1: sort of weird obscure bit that that has him sideline.

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Speaker 4: Got it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it happens a lot to me too.

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Speaker 1: If Chart was here, he would make up some you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like some flesh eating bacteria.

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Speaker 2: Of course he would some weird malady. It is not that.

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Speaker 3: It is not that, but we dropped so low. Now

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Speaker 3: on Fridays, we're going to fill space with charts. That's yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're back to that again.

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Speaker 2: It's it's the off season. It's tough times.

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Speaker 3: I was not fantasy football takers here to the no talkers.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing going on.

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Speaker 1: Well there can be, yes, you like making money, you

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Speaker 1: know what? Yeah, I guess I do, okay, because there

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Speaker 1: there's going to be an opportunity and potentially some gold

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Speaker 1: to be found, to be uncovered and dug up. If

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Speaker 1: you have big opinions on Remandre Stevenson's receptions or Stefan

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Speaker 2: What's driver I'm gonna do my wings.

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Speaker 3: Make sure I get that so spicy enough for my

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Speaker 3: like even not too hot for the kids. What does

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Speaker 3: the feast look like? The intricacies of that thing is

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Speaker 3: kind of interesting. The best part about my Sunday, thank

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Speaker 3: you Basketball Youth, Basketball World for not scheduling my kids

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Speaker 3: on Sunday this week. I get Saturdays only. It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, busy day Saturday and Sunday is free and clear.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go wings. I don't do smoked wings. I

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Speaker 3: know the people in the smoker. I go air fryer,

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Speaker 3: which is kind of a cheat, easy I'll do. I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm not a sauce wing guy. I'm a driver up guy.

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Speaker 2: Same here.

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Speaker 4: Actual.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but my kids love sauces, so I'll probably do

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Speaker 3: a couple of three or four, not meat sauce. I mean,

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Speaker 3: so yeah, and then how do you do? How do

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Speaker 1: Pizza, it's easy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not I'm not pizza. I'm just not the

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get you know, I don't want to

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Speaker 3: get killed for that, But for an event like that,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess you're eating a bunch of other stuff.

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Speaker 3: You don't really have like a main notry kind of

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Speaker 1: So in the past, like cooking a brisket, yeah right,

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Speaker 3: It's like your cologne. Every time I was walk by you,

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Speaker 3: it's like your musk is just brisket. That's actually a

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Speaker 2: Now I get it. No, I would embrace.

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Speaker 3: That's the only part about the smoking thing I can't

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Speaker 1: So but but once you so, you that need that

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Speaker 1: Each one is different and each one requires a different

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Speaker 1: kind of long When you first started, were you awful

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Speaker 2: Awful? Dry is the desert sands?

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Speaker 3: Too hot, it was too hot. Yeah, the whole thing

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Speaker 3: you you ever make a You ever make jerkey like

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Speaker 2: Like anything like that? In your smoker? I want it

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Speaker 2: too much time. Well, it's it's the it's the prep

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Speaker 1: Well, and it's it's also you know, part of this

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Speaker 2: Now you want to be home? Oh yeah, correct, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: I want a pair of basketball shorts up by six thirty,

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Speaker 1: But part of barbecuing and part of the fact that

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Speaker 2: It's best. This is shorts weather percent after how.

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Speaker 3: Many people I saw in shorts two days ago when

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Speaker 3: I was like thirty four, I'm like this, you guys

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Speaker 1: Well, and I mean I have the you go from

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Speaker 1: the garage now the ramp here is not heated. But

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Speaker 3: You're really not be But meat ankle has got to

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Speaker 3: be the whitest thing on earth right now. It's like

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Speaker 3: as why as that paper towel it's it's unsilent. Yes

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Speaker 3: it's not. It's not good.

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Speaker 1: But the long story short, you don't have to do

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Speaker 1: the fourteen hour brisket, but like throw have you ever

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Speaker 1: But like doing a like a cherizo or a spicy

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Speaker 3: I think you watch the you watch these the championship games,

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Speaker 2: Now, is it human?

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Speaker 3: The best part about that story was the four broken

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Speaker 3: Like you're an idiot.

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Speaker 2: Why'd you play?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 2: One of those deals that I mean put mean, he's

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Speaker 1: Some super Bowl prop wagers that Charch and I are

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Speaker 3: It's just a fan base it's just so upset that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now we.

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Speaker 1: Just went for three and change when they couldn't get

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Speaker 3: I think the best thing that could happen to Patriots

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Speaker 2: That's the part I can't wait to see.

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Speaker 3: The part to me that I'm I'm rooting for the

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Speaker 2: That's what these guys were all doing. They were all

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Speaker 3: It's just impossible for me to think that way because

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Speaker 1: So yeah, even if you wanted to say Clint Kubiak,

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Speaker 3: But I bet that that much. His one rule is

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Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I can probably manage that he's

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Speaker 1: Oh, then he's Hof Hof He's an awesome dude. But

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Speaker 1: Say that he's getting that now, right, right, he worked

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do whatever I can to help.

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Speaker 1: But at some point the training wheels come off, and

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Speaker 1: they got a ride, and that's going to manifest itself

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Speaker 1: in whatever direction it goes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, your network, you're I mean as an adult, you're

442
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Speaker 3: starting to learn this now with my kids, you know,

443
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Speaker 3: eighteen years old. Is like your network really is your

444
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Speaker 3: net worth. And like, at the end of the day,

445
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Speaker 3: like there's a lot of talented people out there, a

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Speaker 3: lot of people that probably you know, either think they

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Speaker 3: can or could be in Clint Kubiak situation if given

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Speaker 3: the opportunity. And uh, but clearly you said that the

449
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Speaker 3: training wheels have come off a long time ago. Oh yeah,

450
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Speaker 3: and this is a very talented leader and coach, a

451
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Speaker 3: guy who's kind of learned it, been around it to

452
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Speaker 3: see it. You can be mad that if you want,

453
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Speaker 3: the nepotism is real, but the reality is that's just

454
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Speaker 3: as the world goes round, and you talk about I

455
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Speaker 3: don't care if it's politics or sports or whatever, he

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Speaker 3: goes anything. That's just how unfortunately how it works or

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Speaker 3: fortunately how it works, depends on what side of that

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Speaker 3: you're on. But I think the interesting part is it's

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Speaker 3: funny for me because I'm seeing them as you know,

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Speaker 3: ten years ago, Clint Kubiak and Jeff Howard and Andrew

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Speaker 3: Ginoco and so like I can text him and just

462
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Speaker 3: talk absolute stuff to them, and like, oh, by the way,

463
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Speaker 3: he's going to be the head coach of the Raiders

464
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Speaker 3: and I'm just smacked talking like same thing with Stevanski,

465
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Speaker 3: Like we came in together. He was the quality control

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Speaker 3: assistant to the head coach of their Childress and you know,

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Speaker 3: Childress had him running ragged.

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Speaker 2: He's running.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's getting coffee, he's making he's print outs,

470
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Speaker 3: he's doing all our hard work and he's making nothing.

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Speaker 3: But he gets to be in the room. But he's

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Speaker 3: in the room and he learns and he just soaks

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Speaker 3: it up. He played, he played collegiate safeties. He was

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Speaker 3: a safety at Penn defensive side of the ball, but

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Speaker 3: he saw he saw the game from the defensive side

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Speaker 3: of the ball. When over the offensive side did great

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Speaker 3: And and look where he's at. You know, he gets

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Speaker 3: let go by the Browns. And it was one of

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Speaker 3: the probably the most sought after coach, or one of

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Speaker 3: them after Harwall and it RELs jumped into the pool,

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Speaker 3: but one of the most sought after coaches in the

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Speaker 3: league because of his leadership ability, because his ability to coach,

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Speaker 3: because his ability to see things. And again, like I

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Speaker 3: said him a text, like just a wild text. You're

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Speaker 3: not supposed to send a head coach because like I know,

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Speaker 3: you know, you know him at a different level. You

487
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Speaker 3: know said so six, you know, twenty years ago. So

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Speaker 3: it's fun doing that kind of stuff. And same thing

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Speaker 3: with Brazinski. You know, let's gets elevated this week or

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Speaker 3: last week in the GM spot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can send and especially now that he's not

492
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Speaker 1: in charge of your contract, say whatever you want.

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Speaker 3: Wild text messages. And the best part is all good stuff.

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Speaker 3: I mean like Rob, I mean, he's like he just

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Speaker 3: liked that person in the building that everybody wants to

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Speaker 3: rally behind because he's such a good person and is

497
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Speaker 3: really good at his job, and he's really smart, and

498
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Speaker 3: he's really talented all those things you have to be

499
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Speaker 3: to be in that position for so long, and he's

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Speaker 3: jumped through these different regimes and had more different hats

501
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Speaker 3: because when you're really good and they don't have to

502
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Speaker 3: move on from you, you just they keep you because

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Speaker 3: they know and the talent's there, he wants to be here.

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Speaker 3: And now for him to have a level of control

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Speaker 3: maybe a step beyond where he's been before, is we're

506
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Speaker 3: everybody's excited for him. And it's like that first time

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Speaker 3: Fland runs on the field when you know he's earned

508
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Speaker 3: that chance to have it, go have a chance and boom,

509
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Speaker 3: he's everybody's fired up.

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Speaker 2: Makes the most of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Rob is certain that guy who's been kind

512
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Speaker 3: of not talked about enough in our organization over the

513
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Speaker 3: past twenty plus years for what he's done and now

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Speaker 3: we're all excited for him to have an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's continue that conversation.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna pause, but more whether it be on Rob

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Speaker 1: Brazinski and the dismissal of Quasia Delfa Menza, the pathway

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Speaker 1: forward for our favorite team. Also some HOF news and

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Speaker 1: some names in the mix from last night the the

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Speaker 1: and well one of our favorite guys not on that list,

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Speaker 2: As part of this list.

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Speaker 1: Still worked waiting for a royalty check on that, but

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Speaker 2: It's bet by one of my four children. You got

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Speaker 2: How about Matthew Stafford on stage?

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Speaker 1: It's almost kind of you know, when you just picture

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Speaker 1: just you know, our our families, that becomes really why

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Speaker 1: we do everything else And just him up there with

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Speaker 1: his four girls last night, I mean I'm slacking.

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Speaker 2: I only got three I got I got it. We

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Speaker 2: got more.

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to Molly about that after the show today.

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Speaker 1: You have four girls that just kind of hit me

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Speaker 1: last night. He's up there, it's his first MVP. He's

556
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Speaker 1: old man, gray Beard, crazy frankly by all accounts, did

557
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Speaker 1: everything he possibly could to find his way back to

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl. But the Seahawks just just better in

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Speaker 1: the moment. But it was just kind of hit like

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford's career. He's got his kids up there. It's

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Speaker 1: just a cool moments like that. You hope that maybe

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Speaker 1: ten fifteen years from now he can look back at

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. And I'm sure you had moments when

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Speaker 1: you were a player as well, like just sharing the

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Speaker 1: sharing the sacrifices, sharing the career, sharing the fun times

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Speaker 1: with your family.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he came in I think O nine,

568
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Speaker 3: he came in right this sixteen years later or note

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Speaker 3: just crazy, crazy career and ability, and he's you got

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Speaker 3: the four I mean Madden, I think was in fourth

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Speaker 3: grade and I retired third grade, maybe when I retired,

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Speaker 3: and then you step away from it, and like, there's

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Speaker 3: only two of my kids that really have any memory

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Speaker 3: of me playing actually being at games.

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Speaker 2: The other two were like, you know, way too young.

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Speaker 3: So fun for him to be able to have them

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Speaker 3: involved and be a part of it and come to

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Speaker 3: an a ward show and watch dad win the MVP

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Speaker 3: of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It's just crazy. He had not a bad little deal.

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Speaker 1: And yeah McVeagh.

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Speaker 2: There Pouka's dance in the entire time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's unbelievable. I mean, I love it.

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Speaker 2: That's La Fifi right there. La Flash can't beat it.

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Speaker 2: That's no do big.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he wasn't doing that stuff and he's in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Funny how that changed Stafford, you know, one more sunshine beachside,

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Speaker 1: a little more imagery and uh, a little more fun,

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Speaker 1: I suppose. In so Cal Hall of Fame class was

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Speaker 1: was announced last night.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Williams thinks.

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Speaker 1: But when you look at that list, though, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: kind of, I mean, I hate to say it. I

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Speaker 1: love Kevin Williams. You played with him. That's a daunting list.

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Speaker 1: It's a good list.

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Speaker 3: He was up against some titans. Yeah, a good list,

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Speaker 3: you think, I think. Uh, some local local news writer

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Speaker 3: mentioned it. He's the only guy that's been this was

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Speaker 3: six time All first Team All Pro or six time

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Speaker 3: All Pro.

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Speaker 2: Who's not in and you play like he gets in

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Speaker 2: at some point.

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Speaker 3: Playing three technique and the way he did with his

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Speaker 3: ability to get to the quarterback. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: you probably wouldn't compare it to John Randall. I don't

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Speaker 3: know the numbers. Obviously, John Ryan was one of the

607
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Speaker 3: best three techniques to ever play, but being a part

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Speaker 3: that Williams wall defensively what he did, and then you know,

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Speaker 3: just again he's just like such a good guy and quiet,

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Speaker 3: which almost hurts a guy.

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Speaker 2: It hurts if Kevin Williams, We've talked about Harrison Smith,

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Speaker 2: Kevin quiet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if Kevin Williams has Jared Allen's celebration or personality

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Speaker 3: or John Randalls, you know, mystique like whatever you want

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Speaker 3: to call it, John Randall's thing, I mean, yeah, not

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Speaker 3: in or does an argument he's in from like a

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Speaker 3: marketing standpoint, which I think matters.

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Speaker 2: Then you can also say.

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Speaker 3: Like Luke Keekley, who's the most underrated guy ever, Like

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Speaker 3: I feel like he had a short career but a

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Speaker 3: really good career.

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Speaker 1: Well, I saw this, so Gail Sayers is the youngest

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Speaker 1: player ever inducted in the Hall. Okay, now I had

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Speaker 1: to google this and I'm hoping if someone's if I'm

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Speaker 1: wrong six four six eighty six, tell me I'm wrong

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Speaker 1: kVA in text line but Gail Sayers injury shortened career,

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Speaker 1: but absolutely by anyone's account, hof Gail Sayers before my time.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to just trust people they say he's

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Speaker 2: one of the best. I bet he is.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Well he was thirty four. Luke turns their thirty five

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Speaker 1: in April.

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Speaker 2: That's nuts.

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Speaker 1: So he technically is the second youngest player ever to

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Speaker 1: be inducted in I think Jim Brown, Calvin Johnson, Megatron,

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Speaker 1: those guys were thirty five as well.

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Speaker 2: Like that's kind of the so.

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Speaker 1: And I was going to ask you about that linebacker

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Speaker 1: to linebacker you saw Keikley play like he's worth every

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Speaker 1: bit of that gold jacket.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean for the years he played, he

642
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Speaker 3: played incredible. You know you kind of always think like,

643
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Speaker 3: as a linebacker, how do you separate yourself? It's got

644
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Speaker 3: to be statistically you gotta be really good, right you

645
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Speaker 3: have a bunch of sacks, a bunch of interceptions to

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Speaker 3: make a bunch of game changing plays. I think it's

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Speaker 3: also a fact of like you were the best at

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Speaker 3: what you did during your career in the league. So

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Speaker 3: during that you know ten I think he played nine.

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Speaker 3: I think it was eight seasons. Eight seasons. I mean,

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Speaker 3: well verify you know. Typically what you're going to say

652
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Speaker 3: is like when you talk about Harrison Smith, right, who's

653
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Speaker 3: had statistically one of the best careers ever as a safety,

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Speaker 3: you can argue, like, how does he not get in

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Speaker 3: because Luke Keigley clearly does not have one of the

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Speaker 3: best you know, if you look at stats alone, doesn't

657
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Speaker 3: have one of the best careers ever. But he was

658
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 3: the best of what he did for that eight years. Yeah,

659
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 3: and really good at it for a long time, and

660
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: he deserves it. To me, that's why you just look

661
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 3: at Harrison. But he deserves it immediately. To me, he's

662
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 3: the first ballot based off stats, longevity.

663
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

664
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Speaker 3: The only thing you don't have the Super Bowl was

665
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Speaker 3: a lot of guys that are in there have a

666
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl.

667
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's that's the key.

668
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: And then uh so Keithley's in VINITII, third kick off

669
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: Dakota guy, South Dakota guy yanked in Yeah, yanked him bucks.

670
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: And then you move up Rapid City.

671
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: I think out West later in his life, maybe played

672
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Speaker 3: at STSU and uh yeah.

673
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Speaker 1: I can't pretend to have an elite Roger Craig opinion.

674
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Speaker 1: But he gets in, he gets in. I don't know.

675
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: I mean again, it's it's that, it's that era when

676
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: I was watching a lot of football as a young person,

677
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: but not paying attention to actually the stats of the

678
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Speaker 3: numbers and the impact.

679
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, same here.

680
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: And then uh FITZI, I mean, who's gonna argue with

681
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: second most catches all the time?

682
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Speaker 2: One of us? I mean I think he has like

683
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: six drops in his career. I mean, just as good

684
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 2: as it gets. And then Drew then Drew Brees.

685
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Speaker 3: Yeah, is he the shortest. I'm kidding, He's incredible, you

686
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 3: get in. I mean he deserves it. I mean, think

687
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 3: cat do you look at those names and like everybody

688
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: deserves it?

689
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Speaker 2: I think I think you.

690
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Speaker 1: Can't see him behind the line because he was so short. No,

691
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: I mean you just saw a kind of the tip

692
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: of the hell that kind of bobbing around.

693
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 3: That that's real. I mean, it really is a thing.

694
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 3: Short running backs sometimes get lost in the shuffle. That

695
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: really happens. I mean short quarterbacks. I mean you dropping

696
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 3: and to me, like it was always the thing that

697
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 3: drew every game plan was like, just don't let him

698
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 3: get to a spot where he can see right. Make

699
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 3: him throw from a well right where there's a bunch

700
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: of old linemen around him that are big and tall,

701
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 3: and d lineman coming after him, hands are up and

702
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: he's a Hall of Famer doing that just incredible. And

703
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: his ability get the ball out of his hand quick

704
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: be you know, aware of where things are at and

705
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: where the balls kind of go just incredible. And I

706
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: don't know, I mean, I think you can make an

707
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Speaker 3: argument that that Kevin should be in right now. I

708
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: just I still think you can look at that and

709
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 3: look at what he did on the teams he played,

710
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: and he should be in.

711
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Speaker 1: So I'm not going to go off of that. It

712
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Speaker 1: feels like there's just this massive bottleneck. Yeah, and and

713
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: and maybe that's a good thing. I mean, it shouldn't

714
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Speaker 1: be the Hall of Fame that everyone gets in, but

715
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Speaker 1: there was, you know, and I think we even mentioned

716
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Speaker 1: it last week. Just kind of how crazy because they

717
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Speaker 1: I think they loop in either contributors and then the older.

718
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Speaker 2: Age players like Roger Craig.

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Speaker 1: They loop those guys into a group where you have

720
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Speaker 1: to select basically two or three of five badass names.

721
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Speaker 1: And so you have a Belichick, you have Robert Kraft,

722
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: you have I mean, come on, these guys not getting in.

723
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Speaker 1: But at the expense of what do you make Roger

724
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Speaker 1: Waite another year?

725
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: Do you wait?

726
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: Do you make guys you know for the for the

727
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: winningest coach ever or second winningest coach ever, but most

728
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 3: Super Bowls ever?

729
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: I mean you probably make the guy way.

730
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Speaker 3: I mean you put in Bill Belichick immedie because now

731
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: all you've done is lost the validity, the validity of

732
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Speaker 3: your vote. I mean, I think across the entire country,

733
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Speaker 3: I think that's we'd all probably agree on that, like

734
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: we don't. You don't have to like him. It's not

735
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: your feelings, just facts. And that's where people get of

736
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: the way. A lot of people have gotten their feelings

737
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: on that one, a lot of feelings. Yeah, And that's

738
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Speaker 3: the problem. And I think you do have to be

739
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 3: this thing has to be selective. It's the Hall of Fame.

740
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: It's supposed to be really really hard to get in.

741
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 3: And that's why you can argue that there is a

742
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 3: pecking order. But when all of a sudden you have

743
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Speaker 3: a if your turn and you have a really good

744
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: chance to come in also, and that class coming in

745
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: is really good.

746
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: Well, it's just the way it goes.

747
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: So I think you're right.

748
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Speaker 3: I think somebody made the argument, maybe the end I

749
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: can't Maybe it's the NBA Hall of Fame or Major

750
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 3: League base but one was just like too easy to get in,

751
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 3: and it's like what are we doing here?

752
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

753
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: No, well, yeah, which one? Which one is that? I

754
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: don't remember.

755
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: Somebody was talking about it, but maybe it's maybe it's

756
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: came up with the Derek Rowe is like.

757
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna raise your jersey to the rafters.

758
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 4: Bit.

759
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Speaker 7: Oh.

760
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Speaker 3: I think it came up with like the Hall of

761
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Speaker 3: Fame being too easy too. I don't know what it was,

762
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Speaker 3: but I don't know which one it is.

763
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Speaker 1: It feels like the NFL has created a bottleneck and maybe.

764
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Speaker 2: That's the right way to do it. I just feel like.

765
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Speaker 1: Kevin Williams is on the outside looking in, and I

766
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: don't like that.

767
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: I need I need my guy in.

768
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Speaker 1: I like him a lot. He's the best. But another

769
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: year and another another opportunity, we shall see you are

770
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: the best, my friend. Enjoy the feast on Sunday, yeah,

771
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: and hopefully we get to catch up post Super Bowl

772
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: as we approach. I mean, now the quasi's out, we

773
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: got Brazinsky handling business and what that whole thing's look

774
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: The whole thing looks like they added this.

775
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: Do we ever have to hire a GM? Do we

776
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: need to?

777
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: Does Brazinski want to be GM? We make him? We

778
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: just pay him so much it doesn't matter. That's what

779
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: I'm going for.

780
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: Well, there's one thing.

781
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Speaker 3: The immediate text ascent was I want to be your

782
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Speaker 3: assistant media text. No, I think you'd be great at it.

783
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: I'll go get him coffee all day long. I have

784
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: no problem with that. I love the coffee cooler.

785
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: Because there's an element.

786
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Speaker 1: I mean it's not like, you know, I don't text

787
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: and talk with Rob Brazinski, but I wonder about the

788
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: element where the job that he's had for a quarter century,

789
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: by the way, that he is so damn good at

790
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: he was managing your contracts. We talked about Hutch and

791
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: the poison pill, and you know he just overpaid me.

792
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the best. That's why he's so good. I

793
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: even all out here. Why all the players love this guy?

794
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: What's going on here? He's great at what he does.

795
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: If he becomes the GM, then he doesn't get to

796
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: be the guy that's just really really good at all

797
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: the things he does.

798
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: Why we hired an offensive coordinator to be the head

799
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: coach and the offensive coordinator, So why can't we do that?

800
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Speaker 2: I'm confused by that. He's spent a quarter cent finals.

801
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: Do you have a player personnel team that you're out

802
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: across scouts across the country, a player personnel director who's

803
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: feeding you all the players and here's the here's the list,

804
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 3: and now you manage that.

805
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: No.

806
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Speaker 1: I I get it, and I think he'd be great.

807
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: This isn't an argument of whether or not he could

808
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: do it. I made it. Have total faith, have total

809
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: faith in him in that regard. I'm just thinking he's

810
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: spent a quarter century being the guy that has all

811
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: the right answers in the right spots. Now, as a

812
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 1: general manager, potentially he would have to own decisions that

813
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: he didn't previously have to own. Yeah, and I'm just curious.

814
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that. I don't know the guy.

815
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Speaker 3: So let's say, you know, let's just go steal Denver's

816
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: guy back.

817
00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: George Payton.

818
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Speaker 3: George Payton on the best, one of the best in

819
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: the business and one of us. He's one of us.

820
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: He's the great, great guy. If you have to go

821
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: somewhere oute, I hope it's that Peyton was terrific when

822
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: he was here. Yeah, and I really liked that guy.

823
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: My interactions, whether it's it's Brazinski, George, Peyton Stefanski, would

824
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: be like preseason road trips where people are generally more

825
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: accessible and nothing's on the line yet so that just

826
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: the guards aren't up and just really love so many

827
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Speaker 1: people that have have spent serious and impactful time with

828
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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings, and it's just kind of fun to

829
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: watch those arcs.

830
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Speaker 2: But but Peyton, if you remember.

831
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: That was kind of like a oo, yeah we lost Peyton.

832
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah we should have paid whatever it took to get

833
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: to keep him.

834
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: As everyone was yeah, everyone was mad at Rick at

835
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: the time, and just things were going south with the

836
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: with the zim regime, so I mean just everything was

837
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: negative and it's like, hey, hey, George, don't go yeah exactly,

838
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: maybe George comes back. We shall see Thank you as

839
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: always for hanging out, man, enjoy the weekend and we'll

840
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: chat again soon. That is Chad Greenway Chad Greenway at

841
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Speaker 1: Chad Greenway five two via X.

842
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Speaker 2: When we returned, we're gonna jump out West.

843
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Speaker 1: Hugh Millen analyzes Seahawks football for KJR Radio out West.

844
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: He's a big fan of Softy in Seattle. You know

845
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: who Softy is, same radio station analyzing the Birds for

846
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: the bowl game this weekend. And we're gonna chat with

847
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: Hugh milling about Sam Darnold and Super Bowl and all

848
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: those good things when we return. It's no to win

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, nor to win for PA nine to noon

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Speaker 1: and joining me now out West. Longtime analyst for KJAR

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Speaker 1: Seahawks football and he was an Iowa native actually, but

859
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: went to.

860
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 2: School in Seattle.

861
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Speaker 1: He was a Husky's QB and a third round pick

862
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 1: by the Rams in nineteen eighty six.

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00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: Decade plus in the NFL Hugh Millan joins me. Now,

864
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: how are you doing this morning.

865
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Speaker 4: Hugh, I'm doing great, order, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm terrific. I'm excited.

867
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Speaker 1: And a year ago that's why I was excited to

868
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Speaker 1: chat with you again, as a year ago you joined me,

869
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Speaker 1: if you recall, and we were talking about Michael Pennox

870
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: and the Huskies connection of course, being out west and

871
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: just finding his way through the NFL once he got

872
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: his chance to finally start last year. And now I

873
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: get to talk about a QB I'm a little bit

874
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: more familiar with personally, as you've gotten to watch Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold manning and helming the ship here in twenty twenty five.

876
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: We gave him away, we let him go, Hugh, and

877
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: now he's taking your team to a Super Bowl.

878
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: What do you think about the whole thing?

879
00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, another one man's tress is another man's treasure, right, Yeah, Well,

880
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 7: I think that, you know, I've analyzed the Vikings decision,

881
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 7: you know, carefully. I think that there's a reasonable case

882
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 7: to have been made that you know, you drafted McCarthy

883
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 7: so high and you had a belief in him, and

884
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 7: you know, and Donald, you know, had had obviously an

885
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 7: up and down career up to that point. You know,

886
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 7: the image that keeps coming to me is when the

887
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 7: Vikings beat the Packers on December twenty ninth of last year.

888
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 7: You've seen the scene, it's available on YouTube, and Donald

889
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 7: ends up on the shoulders of his Viking teammates in

890
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 7: this celebratory fashion that you rarely rarely see. I backed

891
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 7: up three Hall of Fame quarterbacks Treitman, Dan Marino, John Elway.

892
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 7: I've never seen a quarterback on the shoulders of his

893
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 7: teammates in a locker room. And there's Kevin O'Connell just

894
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 7: kind of standing against the wall, just with a smile

895
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 7: on his face taking this in, and I just wonder

896
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 7: what he was thinking, Like, how does he not think?

897
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 7: How do I let this guy go? Yeah, you know,

898
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 7: given how the imprint that he had made on the team,

899
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 7: you know, people said, you know, he's fourteen three, didn't

900
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 7: win any big games. Well, that was a big game.

901
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 7: If you're on your shoulders of your teammates, you just

902
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 7: won a big game.

903
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 4: I'll tell you.

904
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 7: Seattle, at the end of the year, the Seahawks had

905
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 7: to beat either the Packers or the Vikings to go

906
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 7: to the playoffs, and so that was a big game

907
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 7: for the Seahawks. Darnald came in and ripped the Seahawks.

908
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 7: He had that incredible back shoulder throw late in the

909
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 7: game to JJ up on the up the left sideline

910
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 7: for the touchdown to win the game. Even the Lion

911
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 7: game earlier in the season he had played well. So then, look,

912
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 7: I'm not going to make excuses for the Week eighteen

913
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 7: game against against the Lions, right, but the Ram game

914
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 7: that was a disaster for everybody involved on that offense.

915
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 7: There was twenty seven pressures against Sam Donald. And to

916
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 7: put that into context, you watch the Super Bowl how

917
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 7: the Eagles got after Pat Mahomes Pat Mahomes after three

918
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 7: quarters they were down four touchdowns and he had a

919
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 7: fifty five passer rating. It was one of the worst

920
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 7: Super Bowl performance you ever had. He had seventeen pressures

921
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 7: in that game, running for his life. And again Donald

922
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 7: had twenty seven pressures against the Rams. So I kind

923
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 7: of look at that is I'm not making an excuse

924
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 7: for the Lion game. So at anyway, that's the information

925
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 7: that the Vikings had to make a decision. But you know,

926
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 7: you watch the tape and his ability to push the

927
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 7: ball down the field. He's duplicated that in Seattle, his

928
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 7: ability to play under center. The Seahawks are second in

929
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 7: the NFL this year in doing so, and the play

930
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 7: action the play action yards per attempt second and in

931
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 7: the league. So that abilition, that's one of the hardest

932
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 7: things you do. We had Warren Moon on a right.

933
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 7: Actually I saw him at a golf tournament and he's

934
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 7: a former Husky. I'm a former Hoskey. We're just talking

935
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 7: about that play action. He goes, that's the hardest thing

936
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 7: to do, and Donald really was excelling at it. And

937
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 7: I'll close with this thought right now as it sits today.

938
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 7: Sam Donald, if you really look at at his career ascension,

939
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 7: the pivotal period was in the year twenty twenty two.

940
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 7: That was when he was with the Panthers. He had

941
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 7: had a high ankle sprain early in that summer and

942
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 7: he missed the first eleven games, and then due to injuries,

943
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 7: he got a chance to play the last six games.

944
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 7: From that point on, we'd call it Thanksgiving of twenty

945
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 7: twenty two. Got me, that's been a minute. Thanksgiving of

946
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 7: twenty twenty two. Sam Donald has started forty four games

947
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 7: regular season and playoffs, He's thirty four and ten. That's

948
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 7: over seventy seven percent winning that. The next closest guy

949
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 7: is Pat Mahomes at seventy three percent since that time.

950
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 7: And he also, out of those forty four games, he

951
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 7: has twenty seven games where his passer rating was one

952
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 7: hundred or more. That's number one in the NFL. That

953
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 7: speaks to a consistency of high level playing in these games.

954
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 7: So you know, it probably hurts for the vikings they got.

955
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 7: They got a heck of a situation. I don't really

956
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 7: like what JJ said. I don't think that helps the team.

957
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 4: But I get it.

958
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 7: I understand every all of these parameters.

959
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 4: I get it.

960
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

961
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: Now, that's it's an amazing breakdown of Sam and it's

962
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 1: it's kind of fun to be on the other side

963
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: of it. I mean, I you know, your guys are

964
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, my favorite team is watching. But

965
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: it's interesting, as we were we were breaking down that

966
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: we eighteen game, we were breaking down that playoff game

967
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: and trying to determine, you know, how to how to

968
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: sift through the ashes and and as as you guys

969
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 1: sign him and bring him in, you guys are sifting

970
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: through it well, I need to find some gold. I

971
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: need I need to find a spark to why this

972
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: could potentially work out, and it's worked out beautifully for

973
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: you guys. I do want to ask you this though,

974
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: Hugh Clint Kubiak, who it sounds like you said to

975
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: become a head coach. He was the offensive coordinator of

976
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: the Vikings in twenty twenty one, and Kirk Cousins has

977
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: had nothing but glowing things to talk about in regard

978
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: to Clint and just how he manages the room. Even

979
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: says he had one of the best years of his

980
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: career under Clint, and he's been he's been making magic

981
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: with with Darnold this year in Seattle. Uh, just any

982
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: any opportunity to pick his brain at all? What have

983
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: you found or gleaned just from from Clint who he

984
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: is managing the offense and now on the on the

985
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: verge of winning a Super Bowl and heading to a

986
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: head coaching job.

987
00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

988
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 7: I played for his dad, Gary when I was with

989
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 7: the Broncos. He was my quarterback coach and the offensive coordinator,

990
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 7: and he and I have had some chats about Clint

991
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 7: Clarse Kent. Clint was just a kid. This was back

992
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 7: in the mid nineties. But you know, I think for

993
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 7: his part, he put the best game of the year.

994
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 7: Of course, I study you know, every play, every every game,

995
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 7: and I thought he had his best game against the

996
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 7: Rams in the midst of you know, some say, well,

997
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 7: are you going to be distracted when you're interviewing for

998
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 7: all these teams. If he was distracted, it didn't impact,

999
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 7: you know, the end of the second quarter. I'm sure

1000
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 7: many of your listeners watched the NFC Championship game. If

1001
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 7: you remember Jackson Smith and Jig but catching a corner

1002
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 7: route at the very end of the second corner. Well,

1003
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 7: these he he emanated. The play began from the backfield,

1004
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 7: and the Rams just had a hard time communicating he

1005
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 7: was wide open. You know, Okay, that's one play. Guess

1006
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 7: what the two prior plays to.

1007
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 4: That, The Seahawks had guys wide open?

1008
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 7: Uh, they had Jackson Smith and Jigbaw on a on

1009
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 7: a concept in the red zone that that the Rams

1010
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 7: had a hard time dealing with where he was leaking

1011
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 7: through the back from his slot position. And then they

1012
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 7: had Jake Bobo and you know, their fourth receiver on

1013
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 7: the team on a wide open on a post.

1014
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 4: Donald missed him.

1015
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 7: If I'm his quarterback coach, I give Donald a minus

1016
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 7: on the two plays prior to that touchdown. Of course,

1017
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 7: he gets a double plus for the touchdown pass because

1018
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 7: he gets he gets the touchdown with the guy he's

1019
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 7: hitting his arm. But and then there's not you know,

1020
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 7: I won't give you every play, but there was a

1021
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 7: there were sequences there in the third quarter where third

1022
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 7: downs he's getting guys wide open, and you know, he

1023
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 7: studied the tape and the combination of the formation, the

1024
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 7: timing of the motion to get free access by the

1025
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 7: receivers as opposed to redirected You know, there's just a

1026
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 7: lot of nuance to what he was able to execute.

1027
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 7: Talking about Kubiak getting guys wide open for Sam Darnold.

1028
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 7: So I think everybody's talked about how it's Donald's arguably

1029
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 7: Donald's greatest game, but I think it could be argued

1030
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 7: that it's Kubiak's best game, at least for this particular season.

1031
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: Time for a few more with you here, Hugh, and again,

1032
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: thanks so much for your time. As we were kind

1033
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: of bouncing back and forth last couple of days trying

1034
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 1: to schedule some things. But Jackson Smith and Jigba leading

1035
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: the league and receiving yards this year. What do you

1036
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: think about his evolution kind of post DK Metcalf.

1037
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: We're gonna move on from DK.

1038
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: We can we believe that Smith and Jigba can be

1039
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: that number one.

1040
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: And I mean he's proved it a to z hasn't.

1041
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 4: He Well, he really has.

1042
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 7: And you know, if you look go back to Ohio State,

1043
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 7: the C. J. Stroud had said, Now, the Ohio State

1044
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 7: had that that period where they had Chris o'lovey and

1045
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 7: Garrett Wilson, every you know, they have had Jackson, Smith

1046
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 7: and Jibby obviously Mecha Abuka. They had all of these

1047
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 7: yeh uh uh these number future number or first round

1048
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 7: draft picks. And C. J. Shroud said, the best route

1049
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 7: runner that he's ever thrown to of of the five

1050
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 7: first rounders.

1051
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 4: Uh, he said, was in Jigba.

1052
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 7: And yet when you look at it, fully three quarters

1053
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 7: of his plays were in the slot. And then with

1054
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 7: Seattle that number with DK Metcalf even increased. So one

1055
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 7: concern we had in Seattle going into the season was well,

1056
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 7: in Jigba he can win in five because he has

1057
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 7: such a high i Q. He knows how to settle

1058
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 7: down in zones, you know, and he has quickness, but

1059
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 7: he had the long speed to play outside when he's

1060
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 7: going against corners. Well that that answer, that was answered

1061
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 7: emphatically with how he played. The majority three quarters of

1062
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 7: his plays have been out side, and and he's just

1063
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 7: been a complete receiver. He's he's a mid sized guy

1064
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 7: at a little under six to one, you know, but

1065
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 7: he when you look at him on the hoop. I

1066
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 7: played with ten Pro Bowl wide receivers. The first thing

1067
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 7: I noticed that when I first saw him is, Wow,

1068
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 7: he's really a low cut guy.

1069
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 4: What does that mean?

1070
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 7: It means he's got in his height. He has relatively

1071
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 7: short legs, longer torso, which which hurts his long speed.

1072
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 7: So I don't think he has elite long speed, but

1073
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 7: his low center of gravity, he just has elite change

1074
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 7: of direction. He can run a speed, you know, like

1075
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 7: a like a champion horse, you know, running around a barrel.

1076
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 7: You know, he can he can turn around at full

1077
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 7: speed because he has you know, such slow excuse me,

1078
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 7: low center of gravity, strong legs. You know, we're upon

1079
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 7: the Winter Olympics. I think he'd be an amazing you know,

1080
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 7: a slalom skier with that low center of so there's

1081
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 7: some attributes to his his you know, his frame, and

1082
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 7: then he just has next level focus on the ball,

1083
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 7: ball tracking, late hands, you know, you know, doesn't drop

1084
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 7: anything he can get reasonably physically, He's not the most

1085
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 7: physical guy, but he can he can, he can be

1086
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 7: decently physical. The running after the catch is pretty good.

1087
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 7: So so all of the components just you know, lead

1088
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 7: to the guy that just got the trophy last night

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Speaker 7: for the offensive Player in the year.

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Speaker 1: One on the game and then one I want to

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Speaker 1: ask about your GM on the game. How does your

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00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: team confuse battle and beat Drake May who had a

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00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: nice season for himself this year on Sunday.

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00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 7: Well, I think for Seattle, the matchup you like is

1095
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 7: if you look at that left side of the offensive

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00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 7: line for the the the Patriots.

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00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 4: Now you you know Garrett Bradbury right.

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Speaker 7: So well, he gave up the ninth most amount of

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00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 7: pressures for all centers, the left tackle Will Campbell gave

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00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 7: up the sixth most amount of pressures, and the left

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00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 7: guard Jared Wilson, probably the weak length of their football

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00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 7: team on on either side of the ball, he gave

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00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 7: up the third most amount of pressures. So that left

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00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 7: you know, starting from the center, that left side, I

1105
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 7: think it's gonna be very vulnerable. Seattle's had, you know,

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00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 7: a pass rush that that at varying times has been

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00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 7: one or number two and in terms of pressures produced.

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00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 7: So I think that's going to be the key for Seattle.

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00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 7: You know. For for the Patriots, they have a secondary

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00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 7: that is really it'sy to trigger on things. You know,

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00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 7: you watch a tape and you say, well, some secondaries

1112
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 7: they like to play back and keep everything in front

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00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 7: of them.

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00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 4: Uh.

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00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 7: You know, Christian Gonzalez is a guy, beautiful in his

1116
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 7: in his back pedal, he drives, in his transition, driving

1117
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 7: on the ball is great. And then their safeties loved

1118
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 7: to to get real aggressive coming down on intermediate stuff.

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00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 7: So there may be some opportunities from some double moves

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00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 7: because that Patriot secondary really good but also very trigger

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00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 7: happy on trying to jump routes in the intermediate level.

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00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: Oh I like hearing that because I got a prop

1123
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: bet on Rashid Shaheed with a thirty or longer reception

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00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: on Sunday, jump those routes boys and let Rashid get loose.

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00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 7: I'll give you, I'll give you a thought about that.

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00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 7: He had played in ten games prior to the NFC

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00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 7: Championship Game, and his longest completion in air yards was

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00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 7: twenty one yards. Now, in the first drive of the

1129
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 7: NFC Championship Game, he catches a go route over the

1130
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 7: top that was thirty six air yards. So if that

1131
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 7: happens to some level, it's gonna be bucking some of

1132
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 7: the odds that we had seen prior to the championship game.

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00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: Well, I got a backpedal on that, like Christian Gonzales

1134
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: bybe head yourself. No, absolutely, my last thing for you here,

1135
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: just John Schneider just watching from afar the work he's

1136
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: done in the free agency periods via the draft. You know,

1137
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: John Schneider has built basically two different entities.

1138
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 4: No, I'm sorry, I'm gonna have to.

1139
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 7: I am due on Seattle Radio, like right at the

1140
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 7: top of the hour.

1141
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 4: And I'm already one minute late.

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00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: Well let me uh let me thank you for your

1143
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: time and and we'll catch.

1144
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,959
Speaker 4: Up, as I had told your producers. So it's all good.

1145
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 4: But but uh yeah, I got a.

1146
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: Roll, So no worries. Take take care of Go Hawks, Okay,

1147
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: go Hawks.

1148
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: Okay, that's Hugh Millin, that's Hugh Millen analyst kJ R Radio,

1149
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: And uh, did we have it?

1150
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: Did we have an outtime, Brett, No, such conversation took place.

1151
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 2: I would have told you it's all good. He was

1152
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: the lead.

1153
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: I did want to dig in with him, and maybe

1154
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: we'll we'll catch up with him. Uh, And he's a

1155
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 1: hot commodity as he's doing a lot of radio today.

1156
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: But all good on that.

1157
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: No, But I want to at some point touch with

1158
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: Hugh again because John Schneider going down this road as

1159
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: we are without a general manager and now Rob Brazinski's

1160
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: stepping into that spot, and what the future holds here

1161
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: for our organization. The news coming out yesterday that Matt

1162
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: Thomas has been hired as a football administration consultant. Well,

1163
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: Matt Thomas from twenty thirteen to twenty twenty four was

1164
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: hanging out with John Schneider and hanging out in the

1165
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: building out west, helping Schneider put awesome defenses, fantastic teams

1166
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: together and certainly being a part of this operation that

1167
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: is now playing in the Super Bowl on Sunday. So

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00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: at some point we'll catch up with Hugh. But you

1169
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,959
Speaker 1: can hear it. It's it's not here. It's been a year,

1170
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: so we just have to get over it and root

1171
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: for Sam in the Super Bowl. It's gonna be awesome

1172
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: to see him on Sunday and maybe it'll hoist the Lombardi.

1173
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: But you could hear it from you there.

1174
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 1: And we'll dig in more to this, more into this

1175
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: with with charts around the corner.

1176
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: Is the fact that.

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Speaker 1: That their perception is that we gave up something great.

1178
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: That is the perception. Now, other things had to happen.

1179
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 1: Gino Smith had to turn down, I believe a contract

1180
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: extension he wanted thirty five or forty a year, and

1181
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: Schneider had to say, well, we're going to move on.

1182
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: So the decision making was sound, and so some things

1183
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: had to fall into place. But that's their perception is

1184
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: that you, guys, guys, really let this guy leave the building.

1185
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: You see what he's done over his last forty some starts.

1186
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: You heard Hugh rattling off the stats. Unbelievable. How is

1187
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,959
Speaker 1: that possible that we would have an opportunity to bring

1188
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: this guy in. That's the perception of Seahawks fans. And

1189
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: then maybe that's things a little bit. But there's a

1190
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: reason they're there, and it's Sam it's what Mike McDonald

1191
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: has been doing over his two seasons. I mean, the

1192
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: dude just feels like it never loses on the road.

1193
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak and what he's building with that offense. What

1194
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: a freaking freight train that John Schneider and company had

1195
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: put together in Seattle. And there they are four and

1196
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: a half ish point favorites Sunday in Santa Clara when

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00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: we return, Let's just continue the football conversation with Paul

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00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: charci In checking in from his new Clear bunker in

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Speaker 1: Utah as the second hour gets kicked off.

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Speaker 2: Next it's Nordo and for Pa on the Fan,