1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: Text line Shell we's going to be in a week 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: and Dave Dave's here is not here. We're gonna have 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Nick Cosmider joining us here at about twenty five minutes. 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Get his thoughts on obviously the Nuggets, but also the Broncos. 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 2: The reforce keep coming out. 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Mike Cliss now included from nine News saying that it 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: looks like we are going to have a changing play 8 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: call around. I get some thoughts on that here in 9 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: just a second. But yeah, Davi's Webb maybe callin plays. 10 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: Maybe that's a real thing we have to start talking about. 11 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: So we'll get his thoughts on that topic as well. 12 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: So the Riley Moss side of this thing, we talked 13 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: about the AJ Brown side of the trade. We were 14 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: talking earlier in the first hour about Bill Barnwell saying 15 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: that the Broncos and theoretical hypothetical trade of a second 16 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: rounder and a fifth rounder and a J. Brown or 17 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: and Riley Moss to the Eagles for a J. Brown 18 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: and a fifth rounder next year. So that was the 19 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: hypothetical trade. Now the side of it from AJ Brown, 20 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: we kind of went through. Opportunity to upgrade the offense 21 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: certainly comes some concerns about what that would do for 22 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: the locker room. 23 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll table that for a moment. 24 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: The Riley Moss thing, I know that you're into, and 25 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: it's not so much that you don't see the value 26 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: of Riley Moss here in Denver. I think we all do. 27 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: It's more of understanding of what you have to do 28 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: to get Jadda Baron on the field. Now, you had 29 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: talked last week before this came out, is I would 30 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: open up competition between those two guys like that? That 31 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: was something we talked about. Is it cleaner this way? 32 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: Is it better for the locker room? Is it better 33 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: for Jadda Baron? If you don't have to open up 34 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: competition and you just say you're a first rounder, you're 35 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: starting this year, it's sink or swim time. 36 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: We just got to know what you are. 37 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: Well. 38 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 4: What I think it does is it eliminates the coaching 39 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: staff and the upstairs from any type of blowback. If 40 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 4: you were to have a position battle between Riley Moss 41 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 4: and Johddy barn and Riley Moss actually does win and 42 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 4: Johnny but you still play Johnny Baron. You don't lose 43 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 4: the faith of the team. Behind that. But I believe 44 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 4: though that moving Riley Moss is actually the best thing 45 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 4: for him. Well, one, because he's one of the most 46 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 4: targeted dbs in the NFL. Playing a costs from pat 47 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: certain so the idea is you move to a different team, 48 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 4: you get targeted less. And also, if he gets moved 49 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 4: to a new teams in the last year of his deal, 50 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: more and likely that team's going to want to pay him. 51 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, we love playing football, 52 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 4: but we love that money too, So if he was 53 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 4: to get moved, you're not going to do a Riley 54 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 4: Moss J. Brown trade and then not lock him up 55 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: for a couple of years. Also, you just don't want 56 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: to have a one year rental after shipping out picks 57 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 4: and you know, one of your top receivers. So I'm 58 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 4: a big believer that this Riley Moss trade, if it 59 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 4: was to come, you know, come to happen. I really 60 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 4: believe that this would be the best thing for him 61 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: because he has a chance to go somewhere where he's 62 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 4: going to be maybe for a couple of years, rather 63 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 4: than we already know. If he does play this year, 64 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 4: it'd be highly unlikely for the Broncos to extend him, 65 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 4: because you still would have to see what your first 66 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 4: round pick is capable of, and you can't do that 67 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 4: when you have two guys you know, patser taen in 68 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 4: him on second deals. 69 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: Would you rather keep Riley Mosster Jaquan McMillan McMillan. 70 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: I think McMillan would be better just because of his 71 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 4: skill set, and I think Riley Like Riley. I think 72 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: he's a hell of a player, no doubt, and for 73 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 4: how much he gets targeted, I think he gets a 74 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: lot of hate and I believe that he actually is 75 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 4: a very good, very good dB with a very bright 76 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 4: future in this league, with a very bright future. It's 77 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 4: just tough because he plays across from passer teen and 78 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 4: they're not going to keep taking shots of him. We 79 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 4: saw what happened when they took shots during the playoffs 80 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 4: at pat Most of those could have been interceptions. You know, 81 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 4: there was no separation at all. There's nowhere to go. 82 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: So watching those playoff games, you see why everybody has 83 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 4: to go at riding Mons and it's not anything against him, 84 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 4: it's just how good the other guy is on the 85 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 4: other side. So I'm a big believer that this is 86 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 4: gonna be this regardless, it's gonna be great for him 87 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 4: because he's already been established in this league, playing at 88 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 4: a high level, and he's had the most targets he's 89 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 4: ever going to get. 90 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: So you just make it clean like you would. 91 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: You would do this deal in part because it also 92 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: solves another quote unquote issue. And I say that as 93 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: an issue because this is more of a hypothetical that 94 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: we have all said you'd like to get Jotty Baron 95 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: on the field. Regardless of that, the Broncos really like 96 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: this position of having a ton of depths with their 97 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: defensive backs, which is a good thing to have. 98 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, because when Pat went down this year, it didn't 99 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 4: miss a beat. That's right, it didn't miss a beat. 100 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 4: So that's another reason why you may not want to, 101 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 4: you know, make this trade because at the end of 102 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 4: the day, but you know why we play football is 103 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 4: one hundred percent chance of injury in this game, and 104 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: you don't want it to be. You have all the 105 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 4: depths you traded away, and then you come back and 106 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: you play a couple of games now and then someone 107 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 4: gets hurt. Now you have a hole. Now you're on 108 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 4: the street looking for guys for older vets or you're 109 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 4: you know, you're trying to compete. So that's what would happen, 110 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 4: because the Broncos are trying to compete this year. The 111 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 4: Broncos are you know, the goal is Super Bowl obviously 112 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 4: after making it to the AFT Championship. So what you're 113 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 4: going to have to do though, and what would break 114 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: everybody's heart is if you trade Riley Mouse away, then 115 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 4: somebody was to get hurt. And now you're literally rotating 116 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: in dbs from the street or practice, grabbing people from 117 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 4: practice squads, and it says a glorified hole in the 118 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 4: defense right there. 119 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: That's the last. But sometimes you got to operate with 120 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: not knowing everything that's going to happen. That's just what 121 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: it is, right, Yeah, And. 122 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 4: You kind of put yourself in a situation when you 123 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 4: drafted Jadday Barron first round and granted I remember last 124 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 4: year at one said he wasn't supposed to be there. Well, 125 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 4: now this is a self made problem and you've got 126 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 4: to find out what the answer is going to be. 127 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 4: You'd force it, m No, honestly, I would not if 128 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 4: I'm not going to face it. 129 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: Sounds like yet, but I'm. 130 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 4: Saying if I'm Miley Mossel, I would might maybe want 131 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 4: to because I can go get extended right now. Like 132 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 4: if you stay in Denver, there's no chance of an 133 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: extension right now. You know you're gonna have to go 134 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 4: play it out this year and then you want to 135 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 4: go into free agency, and then technically you could actually 136 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 4: make more money because everyone knows when you take extensions 137 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 4: before you actually hit the market, it's usually cheaper than 138 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 4: what you would get if you've gotten a free agency. 139 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 4: But I just believe though that he like he's this 140 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 4: is a good thing for your name to be in 141 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 4: trade talks for your name. You know, the constant be 142 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 4: brought up. That means you're producing. That means that you're 143 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,559 Speaker 4: wanted around the league. You wouldn't be having Yie most 144 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 4: trade talks if nobody wanted him. So this is a compliment. 145 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 4: This is this is the biggest compliment. But I believe 146 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 4: either way he's wanting to be okay no matter what. 147 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: Trying to kick Riley Moss out the door. Here. 148 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: This is more of a conversation about what you're trying 149 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: to do from a roster standpoint, building around and including 150 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: Jadday Baron in the picture. 151 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: You May Mountain. 152 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: People that chiveed in on this over the weekend, We're like, ah, 153 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: Jotty Baron is a bust. Yeah, he's already been labeled 154 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: a butt one year, one season in and the guy's 155 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: already a bust. 156 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: I think that's obnoxious. 157 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 4: I'm not surprised that people say that. You know, people 158 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 4: were saying that about Andrew Thomas, the tackle for the Giants, 159 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 4: and now he's looking like he could be one of 160 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: the good players. Yeah, one of the top tackles in 161 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 4: the league. So we look about Gay Bowles, Garah Bow's 162 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 4: another one. Gara Bowles. When he first got here, everyone 163 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 4: screamed he was a bust for the first two years, 164 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 4: and then he turned it around. You know, it's just 165 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: I think it might just speak to the talent a 166 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 4: head of Johnny Baron that they he's not playing right 167 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 4: now because those guys are that good. 168 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: Well, and credit where it's due. Jay Kwan McMillan went 169 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: to another level, Like he played outstanding this year and 170 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: he stayed on the field all the time. Part of 171 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: the reason they drafted Johnny Baron was a that they 172 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: didn't expect to be there at pick twenty. There's a 173 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: relationship there with Vance Joseph's cousin who coached him in Texas. 174 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: So there's your defensive coordinators like, I know this, I've 175 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: heard this guy's amazing. We should bring him into the building. 176 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: And then the last part is they had dealt with injury. 177 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: The Broncos had dealt with injuries in their secondary at 178 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: the tail end of the previous season, and the last 179 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: thing they wanted to do was go into another year 180 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: dealing with some of the And you don't know if 181 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: it's injury on underperformance. Hey, it could be Riley Moss 182 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: has hit a wall and he's just not that guy. 183 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: Maybe Ja McMillan has hit a wall. Maybe he's not 184 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: that guy. We need to bow this. In fact, i'd say, 185 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: if you do this move, I still draft another cornerback. 186 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: Maybe not in your first round unless there's a guy 187 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: there that you just love. But I was still draft 188 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: another quarterback. It's a premium position. We are in a 189 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: position now as a league where the idea of premium 190 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: position is spread out. He used to be just a 191 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: left tackle on the edge. Now it's defensive tackles are 192 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: premium positions. If you can get one of those dudes 193 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: a big deal. 194 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and right now at this position, you know, talking 195 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 4: about dB. If you have guys, you can't get rid 196 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 4: of them, you can So this is also my thinking. 197 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 4: You know you can't. Can you really trade Riley Moss? 198 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 4: Because can you let good DBS go? 199 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: You're ready to ship him out an hour ago? 200 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 4: Ye, because I'm saying this would be a great trade 201 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 4: for him. I'm not necessarily saying he should be gone, 202 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 4: but I'm saying at the end of. 203 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: The day, though, you gotta play your guys. 204 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 4: You've got to play your first round picks. Otherwise, you know, 205 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 4: you know that Bust talks to that's coming. But Riley 206 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 4: Ross is in a Riley Moss is in a great position. 207 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: So I want to ask you something because you had 208 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: mentioned to me during the break and I want to 209 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: make sure I have this right because you were complaining 210 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: to me. 211 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: About the media. You know, you athletes and it's never 212 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: good enough, never, But. 213 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: You were complaining about how it's unfair that we were 214 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: going after the female rapport that asked didn't really ask 215 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: a question to Liam Cohen, but kind of made a 216 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: statement about how she was happy with the way that 217 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: the season played out and he should hold his head 218 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: up high, so on and so forth right, and there 219 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: was a lot of people like, oh, time and place. 220 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: It was right after they lost the playoff game to 221 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. But she was like, hey, you had 222 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: a heck of a season, revolved, very proud of you. 223 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: Keep your head up that kind of thing. This is 224 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: a nice moment. And then our parents singuin Shingoon, sorry Shingoon. 225 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: He was asked how often Kevin Durant checks his phones 226 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 1: after the game on Twitter, and he says, I don't 227 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: want to talk about locker room stuff. And you said 228 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: that that's that We're not going after that reporter the 229 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: same way we went off to the reporter in Jacksonville. 230 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 4: That was just the dumbest question possible, Like that's trying 231 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 4: to go off of like Twitter for like trends where 232 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 4: you can oh Katie and his burner and all this 233 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: that had nothing to do really with basketball, that had 234 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 4: nothing to do with what had just happened. Like just 235 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 4: like we talked about the women reported from Jacksonville who 236 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 4: was giving Liam Cohen his flowers and everyone said, that's 237 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: not the space. How's this the space? And that's I 238 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 4: guess my questions. How's this the space to ask another 239 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 4: person about if you see another player on his phone 240 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 4: after the game. 241 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: Who cares? Well, you're you're missing some important. 242 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, people talk about this, oh Katie 243 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: Burner stuff like it's actual news. No, that's not the sports. 244 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: It's just admit that basketball has nothing to talk about, right, Like, 245 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 4: just admit that this is what we this is what 246 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 4: we're talking about, because how often do you see Kevin 247 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 4: Durant checking his phone after the game for Twitter? 248 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: Are you serious? 249 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 4: Right now? 250 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 3: Okay? 251 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: So so in fairness, in fairness, and I'm gonna tell 252 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: you why this is. 253 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 4: Different between Satan and Liam came like you you defied 254 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 4: all odds this season. You know, we're really proud of 255 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 4: you guys, and we're really excited for the future. 256 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 2: How I actually like that the ladder. 257 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 4: Message better than how often do you see Kevin Durant 258 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 4: checking his phone after the game for Twitter? 259 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: So Shangon wasn't asked this after Game seven of the 260 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: NBA Finals, or even just being losing in the first 261 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: round of the playoffs. Let's go straight up comp here 262 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: of Jacksonville losing to Buffalo in the wildcard round. Okay, 263 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: so Shangoon isn't like, Hey, tough loss. How often do 264 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: you think Katie checks his phone for Twitter as soon 265 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: as the game is like that? There are significantly different 266 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: time and place kinds of situations. 267 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: I get that point. 268 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: And this is also a head coach versus asking a player. Also, 269 00:12:58,640 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: this is during All Star. 270 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 4: We wait, so what makes a difference for a weekend 271 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 4: and a player. 272 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: Yes, it it's a massive difference. 273 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: You get such a finite amount of time with the 274 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: head coach. With players, you could be in the locker 275 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: room and everybody can kind of come in and ask 276 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: a handful of. 277 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: Questions over the course of a week. 278 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: Usually right in NFL makes you guys available all the 279 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: time for the most part, unless you're ducking out because 280 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: you want to go with lift weights and then I 281 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: say that quotes lift weights, or we're in a meeting. 282 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: We're in a meeting special teams. 283 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you play special teams when you 284 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: haven't played a single snap of special teams. 285 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: But we have a special series of meeting. 286 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 4: Hey, I'm always a depth chart. Got to the meeting. 287 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: That's my favorite. Though players like duck it out. Hey 288 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: I got a meeting. 289 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: I got special seeds are like, you don't play special teams. 290 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: That's right, That's that's right. But very different, very. 291 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: Very different situations All Star weekend Shangoon being asked about 292 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: Kevin durant In in a light moments. Ver is at 293 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: the end of a postseason run for Jacksonville. Significantly different situations, 294 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: and I'm stunned you don't recognize that. 295 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 4: I do realize it's a different situation. The issue is, 296 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 4: I just think it's ad a dumb question following, you know, 297 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 4: falling into this whole Twitter file stuff of you know, 298 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: Katie and his burner account, and it's just it's just stupid. 299 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: Honestly, he's wrong. 300 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 4: I've never been wrong in my life. 301 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: The Cospider decks a player's perspective on cap casualty. I 302 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: can't wait to talk to you about this. I saw 303 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: players talking about it on Twitter today because there was 304 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: an article from NFL dot com say how much they 305 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: hate loathed being discussed in cap casualty articles. And honestly, 306 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, you think about it from terms from fans 307 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: and media. We just talk about these things very openly. 308 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: These are people's futures and lives. It's it matters so 309 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to that with you at the top 310 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: of they are can't wait? Okay, sounds good. Right now, 311 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna have the KA Commas Spirit Healthhighline. I'm bringing 312 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: a very good friend of the program from the Athletic 313 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: Nick cosmo Or joining us, Shelby Harris, Ryan Edwards. 314 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: What's up, Nick? 315 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: How are you? I'm good? How are you guys doing? 316 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: We're doing great. 317 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of things I want to get to 318 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: with you. Very excited to have you on the program. 319 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: So I want to start with the Broncos though, because 320 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: of course we're going to see you out at the 321 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: comline next week. You'll be covering the press conferences Sean Payton. 322 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: We assume we'll be talking same thing with George Payton 323 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: and all those kinds of things. What do you make 324 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: about the increased reports that maybe Davis Webb will be 325 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: taking over play calling duties. 326 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: Do you buy it? 327 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's one of those things that I'm going to 328 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: have to see it in order to believe it. To me. Ryan, 329 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: I think that obviously Davis Webb would not have stuck 330 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: around in Denver if there wasn't going to be the 331 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: opportunity to have a really significant say in what they 332 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: want to do offensively, because let's face it, this is 333 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: a team that must improve on that side of. 334 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 5: The ball dramatically if they ultimately want. 335 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: To get to where they want to go. I mean, 336 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: they won fourteen games, and it's it's easy to look 337 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 3: at it and say. 338 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 5: You know, they're right where they're supposed to be. 339 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: But I don't think this team ultimately gets where it 340 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: needs to go if it doesn't improve, you know, from 341 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: its fourteenth play standing offensively this season, and so he's 342 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: going to have a significant part of that. You don't 343 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 3: pass up opportunities to be an oc somewhere else with 344 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 3: play calling opportunities, you know, if you didn't think you 345 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: were sticking around to have a big say in what 346 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: they what they do now, whether that includes from day 347 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 3: one you're going to call the place, David Web I 348 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 3: don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. 349 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 5: But again, it's just one of those things where Sean Payton. 350 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: Has called plays every year that he's been a head 351 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: coach since since taken over New Orleans in two thousand 352 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: and six, and obviously even further back than that if 353 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: you include his career as an offensive coordinator, So until 354 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: he actually gives it up. I just think that that 355 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 3: you're going to have to actually see that happen in 356 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: order to say, yep, that's that's the direction they're going in. 357 00:16:58,560 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: Shelby. Here, it's here. 358 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 4: So hey, Kelly, my idea and what I was thinking. 359 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 4: We've been talking about, you know, Riley Moss and J. 360 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 4: D Barron a lot to say, what are your thoughts 361 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 4: on the potential trade of a Riley Boss? But then 362 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 4: also we keep seeing this a J. Brown, Riley Moss 363 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 4: and like kind of connected to each other. What other 364 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 4: teams could really be an option if the Brown, if 365 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 4: the Broncos really did decide to trade. 366 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 5: Riley Boss, that's a good question. 367 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: And to be honest, Shelby, I haven't like really kind 368 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: of dialed down into like some of the teams that 369 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: have that need, you know, for an outside corner. Obviously, 370 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 3: you know, Philly would make some sense if they wanted 371 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 3: to get something something back in dealing AJ Brown to 372 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: continue to build that. 373 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 5: Secondary that they're going to have out there. 374 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 3: I think that would would have made more sense to 375 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: me if if Christian Parker was still there, obviously having 376 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 3: been part of the staff when they. 377 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 5: Drafted Riley Moss, and he's of course now over over 378 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 5: in Dallas, so you know, maybe. 379 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 3: That would be a place that you that you could 380 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: look at. But I really do think that that's going 381 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 3: to be an interesting one because with joh Ay Barron, 382 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 3: and I've been kind of talking about this to some people, 383 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 3: like he doesn't come back next year just to be 384 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 3: the dime player who then slots into some other roles periodically, 385 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 3: Like you did not draft him twentieth overall for that 386 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 3: to be his role. And yet Jimn McMillan was such 387 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 3: an important piece of what they did defensively last year, 388 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 3: and as a restricted free agent now, I'm hard pressed 389 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: to think that they're not going to do what they 390 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 3: need to do to bring him back because of what 391 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 3: he brings to that defense, because of his fit in 392 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: Vance Joseph's defense. Like, I just don't foresee. 393 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 5: An offseason which they don't make that a priority. 394 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 3: So then where does that leave joh A. Barron? Like, 395 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: I think it is pretty clear that that that needs 396 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 3: to be the competition, right because as much as I 397 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: think Riley Moss has done some good things over the 398 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 3: over the two years that he's been the starter opposite 399 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 3: passer ten. You cannot look at that position and say, yep, 400 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 3: that's the that's a done deal. That's as good as 401 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: we can be on that side of the ball. So 402 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: to me that that's where that's where the competition comes. Now, 403 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 3: you could say that Riley moss Los is out on 404 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 3: that competition, that you trade him or or you you 405 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: trade him ahead of time, just saying that Barn's going 406 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: to be that guy now. But again, this is a 407 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 3: team that we saw they needed that depth last year. 408 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 5: As you know, Passer Tan went down for some time, Brandon. 409 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 3: Jones went down for some time. They relied upon it. 410 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: And so you know, I don't necessarily think. 411 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 5: That like that would mean that you have to that 412 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 5: you have to trade. 413 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: Rally Monts the cosmidor joining us. 414 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: So if you had to, I don't know, I would 415 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: say guess, but something along those lines of what the 416 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: splash might look like in terms of position on offense, 417 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: we get to free agency, because I don't know if 418 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: that's going to be something that we're talking about in 419 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: the draft, but free agency running back, wide receiver, tight end, 420 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: Where do you think the biggest move might be for 421 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: the offense? 422 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: I think just during this player acquisition peer that is 423 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: coming up, I think it has to be running back. 424 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: You know, this is just an offense that when you 425 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 3: look at JK. Dobbins having gone down in Week ten 426 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: at the time, you know, he was fifth in the 427 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: league and rushing and they completely fell off after that. 428 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 3: And look, I think R. J. Harvey is going to 429 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: be a good player, and I think the fact that 430 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 3: he was the receiving threat that he was as a rookie, 431 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 3: I think it's a really good sign because you're gonna 432 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: want him to be able to continue to grow his 433 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 3: role as sort of that you know, it's an overused 434 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 3: term in Champagne's offense with that joker mismatch, creating type 435 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 3: player that you can line up in multiple spots and 436 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 3: in different formations. 437 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 5: Like I thought that was a lot of good sign 438 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 5: but the fact of the matter was that his production 439 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 5: as sort. 440 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: Of that lead back just wasn't there. Kenn It can 441 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 3: it get there in here too? I think that's certainly 442 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 3: a possibility, But you can't go into this offseason and 443 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 3: just say that's what we're relying upon. And with Dobbins, 444 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: you know, again he proves to be one of the 445 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: best players at his position in the league. When he's healthy. 446 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: I think he average five. 447 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 5: Point two yards for kerry for his career. 448 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 3: The only players in the same span that that have 449 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: taught that are Devon a chan and Uh in Miami 450 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 3: and Jamier Gibbs in Detroit. Like that's how good he's been. 451 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: But the problem is, again, he's missed seven or more 452 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 3: games and for the last five seasons, so you just 453 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: it's hard to count on that when he's been a 454 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 3: guy that that hasn't done that. 455 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 5: So I would look at that and say, hey, you 456 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 5: have an opportunity. 457 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: Like the brief Hall thing is obviously super interesting to me, 458 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 3: Like I think he wants to test the market. His 459 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 3: ability to be a receiver out of the backfield, the 460 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 3: number that he's numbers that he's been able to put 461 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 3: up on a bad Jets team for the last four 462 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 3: years really make you say, wow, if you could get 463 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 3: this guy into calffunctional offense with a you know, a 464 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 3: quarterback that's established in that role, like what he could 465 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: potentially be. 466 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 5: You know, so to me, if if they're going to 467 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 5: make a splash early. 468 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 3: On in this in this player acquisition period, you know, 469 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 3: I kind of look at it there. 470 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, Ball would definitely be a dog for the for 471 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 4: the Ronos. Well, I guess my idea, My question is, 472 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 4: give me one surprise cut. This is something we've been 473 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 4: talking about. But what is one surprise cuts or trade 474 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 4: candidate that I guess a lot of people haven't thought 475 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 4: about when it comes to the Broncos. 476 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a really good one. I mean the 477 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 3: obvious ones just based on and then I heard I 478 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 3: heard what you were saying earlier, and and I'm with 479 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 3: that of like, because I don't think moves are just 480 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 3: made sally right, like this idea that you're just getting 481 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 3: done because your numbers too high or anything like that. 482 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 3: But but if you just sort of look at kind 483 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: of the economics compared with how they played last year 484 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 3: and what their availability was, Drake Greenlaw makes potential sense. 485 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 3: You know, obviously have an ingram. It didn't I don't 486 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: think quite worked out in the way that they may 487 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 3: be envisioned early on with his role in that offense. 488 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 3: So those are those are two that that you look at. 489 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: And then offensive line wise, like what do they view 490 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 3: as the future of this group? Right, because obviously Garrett 491 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 3: Bowles is locked up for the long term. You still 492 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 3: have a couple more seasons at right tack with Mike mcglinchee, 493 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 3: who I thought played really well last year, and then 494 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 3: Quinn Minors. Of course, you know they expect him to 495 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: be here for a long time. Luke Wattenberg just re upped. 496 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 3: So the question then is less guard that they could 497 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: move on from Ben Powers. Alex pel Test is a 498 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: restricted free agent, so obviously if they if they want to, 499 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 3: they can kind of bring him back at a modest 500 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 3: number and have him be the guy to kind of 501 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 3: take over that spot if that's what they wanted to do. 502 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 3: So those would be the three. As far as like 503 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 3: a guy that that we wouldn't see coming to me, 504 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 3: it's is it maybe one of the young wide receivers 505 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: that you have because you are looking at, you know, 506 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 3: trying to create a space for something a little bit 507 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: different there. You know, again, those guys are are are 508 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 3: still so early in their development in this offense. When 509 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 3: you're talking about Marvin Men's even or or who you're 510 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 3: not going to trade because of his value what he 511 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: does as a returner. So you know, is Troy Franklin 512 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 3: that kind of guy I just I think it's too 513 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: early in that standpoint, right, you know so, and then 514 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 3: you go to the to the secondary right, So so 515 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 3: Riley Moss we were talking about a little bit earlier, 516 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 3: but there's not Those would really kind of be the ones. 517 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: It'd be hard for me to look at another position 518 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 3: and just say, man, they're gonna they're gonna pull one 519 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 3: out That just stuns you. But I guess that's why 520 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 3: they would be. They would fall into that category. 521 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: All right, Uh, Nick cosmoder joining his last couple here 522 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: for you, I want to switch over to the Nuggets 523 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: for just a second. So we got twenty seven games 524 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: remaining in this final stretch run. I'm sure you're just 525 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: as stunned as I am about their home record fifteen eleven. 526 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 2: But what do you need to see down. 527 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: The stretch here to know that this team is I 528 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: guess on the right track. 529 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: Is it all about? Hell's what? What's what's the marker 530 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 2: you're looking for here? 531 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 3: Yeah? Well that's that is the big Like, that's the 532 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 3: biggest thing. They've They've gone through so much this year 533 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: and had to deal with so many different lineups based 534 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: on you know, all the injuries that they've had, so 535 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: to me, it's just can you get healthy at the 536 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 3: right time to where you are, you know, you're in 537 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: a rhythm that you need to be when the playoffs start, 538 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 3: because we've seen that. We've seen him go all out 539 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: and play the perfect regular season and then they are, 540 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 3: you know, either fatigued or they're just not quite at 541 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: their peak at the end of the year because they've 542 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 3: been playing that way for so long. Yeah, the fifteen 543 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 3: and eleven. 544 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 5: At home is a little bit puzzling and bothers. 545 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 3: Them even with the injuries. But I just think overall, like, 546 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 3: can you get to a place where. 547 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 5: You have enough of a runway to the. 548 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: Playoffs with a largely healthy lineup to feel good about 549 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 3: the way that you the way that you're going into 550 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 3: the playoffs like that? That to me is the biggest thing. 551 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: And part of that is this has been such a 552 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: great year by Jamal Murray. You know, it's it's been 553 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 3: antithical to how he has typically started season. So now 554 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 3: that he he kind of carried the boat for so long, 555 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 3: is he going to be fresh enough down the stretch 556 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 3: of the season into the playoffs to kind of continue 557 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: playing that way? Those would be kind of a couple 558 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: of things that I'm really looking at. 559 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: My last question here obviously is Nuggets legend Doug Mow 560 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 4: just passed away eighty seven. Can you for this, you know, 561 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 4: talk about maybe any interactions that you've had with him 562 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 4: or what he meant to this Nuggets organization just overall. 563 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I unfortunately didn't get to be around 564 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 3: much with when he was when he was you know, 565 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 3: coaching the team, are still around it, but just having 566 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 3: covered that organization for a while, you know, what you 567 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 3: hear about Doug Mo the most was just his authenticity, 568 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 3: Like he was truly kind of a you know, an 569 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: original when it came to the you know, to the 570 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 3: to the early days of the league or the early 571 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 3: days of the Nuggets franchise. You know, when you talk 572 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 3: about a guy that won you know, four hundred and 573 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: thirty two games, obviously that kind of proof in the 574 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 3: resume was there. You know, he kind of was the 575 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 3: Nuggets for so long. But I think when you talk 576 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 3: to people just about the you know, the the interactions 577 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,239 Speaker 3: that they had with Doug MO for so long, he 578 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 3: was just an original guy, like you knew what you 579 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 3: were getting, you know, with with Doug Mo. There was no, 580 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 3: there was no pulling punches, you know. Obviously the way 581 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 3: that he the uptemple, way that he played the game, 582 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: or that he coached the game, it created a lot 583 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 3: of fans in Denver and really kind of put the 584 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 3: Nuggets on. 585 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 5: The map there, you know, during the years. 586 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 3: That he coached the team. But but I just think 587 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 3: the personality part of that he truly was you know, 588 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 3: an original, uh and kind of a great fit for 589 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 3: a franchise that was sort of had to earn its respect, 590 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 3: you know, in the in the early eighties, and and 591 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 3: rising to a team that was challenging the Lakers, you know, 592 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 3: in the Western Conference finals in the eighties, and then 593 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 3: and then you know, on and on. So yeah, certainly 594 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 3: an icon, uh for for that franchise. And you know, 595 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 3: she will surely be missed perfectly, said my friend. 596 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: I always appreciate your insight. I'll see you out there 597 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis next week. 598 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 3: Man, all right, thanks a lot, guys, have a good day. 599 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: Right to Nick Cosmider with the athletic, tremendous writer, great 600 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: reporter and uh got a chance. 601 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 2: To hang out at ending next week. 602 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: Uh, we are covering the Broncos out there, so yeah, 603 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: I mean Doug MO that chance to really talk much 604 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: about that, but certainly, uh you know, an NBA legends 605 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: and Nuggets legends. I've had one interaction with him, and 606 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean just. 607 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 2: Super sweet guy, you know. I mean, like I can't. 608 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: I've never heard of a person that had a bad 609 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: thing to say about Doug MO. And I mean even 610 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: did this radio right, I mean he was, He's kind 611 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: of done all of it. He's been around this this 612 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: area for a long time. He's an all timer. He's 613 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: up in the rafters. I again, I don't I wish 614 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: I had a little bit more to say about interactions 615 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: with him. He's certainly one of those guys that has 616 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: a reputation of very positive reputation here in this market. 617 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: And it was very sad to hear that he passed 618 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: away this morning at eighty seven. But again, you know, 619 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: just just you think about what this franchise has gone through, 620 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: and I mean he had some some pretty lean years there, 621 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: but Doug most stood out as one of the best 622 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: for a long time, right. I mean the lean years, 623 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: of course, were more more in the nineties. But you know, 624 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: I really started my Nuggets fandom. I mean, Carl Melloy 625 00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: Anthony was kind of I mean, it's not like A 626 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: didn't appreciate the Nuggets from New Mexico when I was younger, 627 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: but Carmelo Anthony really kind of got my fire going 628 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: in George carl and then some of the teams there 629 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: with AI and then eventually Chauncey. 630 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: But you know, there's. 631 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: Certainly a lot of people that will point to Doug 632 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: mo in that era of basketball here in Denver is 633 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: sort of the beginning of their love for that franchise. 634 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Doug Moe. Really, I when I think like 635 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 4: sticks out for me to him is when he went, 636 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 4: you know, from the ABA to NBA, when every when 637 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 4: they emerged, he was one of the ones that the 638 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 4: NBA and they don't deserve so good, so good, and 639 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 4: I I have to imagine again that's like that predace 640 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 4: me and you a little bit. 641 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure when we get a chance maybe to chat 642 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: with Dave the next couple of days, we'll. 643 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: Get his thoughts on it. 644 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, I I imagine at the time this was 645 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: no sure thing. Liked to see where the NBA is 646 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: now and it's it's probably that's probably the most second 647 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: most popular sport in North America. 648 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: Would you say, yeah, I would. 649 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 4: I would say it goes football, basketball, baseball, hocke, hockey 650 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 4: because you can't put baseball below hockey because the World 651 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 4: Series is still you know, getting more and more numbers. 652 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 4: But then hockey, I can. I can watch the Stanley 653 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 4: Cup down, don't don't. Let's not short change to Stanley 654 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 4: Cup at all, because hockey is different than the regular seasons. 655 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 4: But you would never catch me watching regular season hockey 656 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 4: on TV yet yet yet yet, But I will eventually 657 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 4: start trying to learn. I know a little bit about it, 658 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 4: and I'm trying to learn. But right now, I'm just 659 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 4: I'm more of a you know, I'm on my curling 660 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 4: thing right now. Yeah, I'm already set up with the family. 661 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 4: We're gonna go to the Boulder to the curling the 662 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 4: curling gym and go out there and do it. I 663 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 4: curled in high school before, did you really? So we 664 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 4: had a lifetime gym class. It's like a different type 665 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 4: of gym class and you know, junior senior year, just 666 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 4: filling it up and they would take us to the 667 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 4: you know, a country club and we would go Pearl 668 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 4: and so I know a little bit about the rules. 669 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 4: I don't remember the whole thing. So it has been fun, 670 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 4: you know, sitting with my wife and watching, you know, 671 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 4: a little bit of the curling and explain it to her. 672 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 4: So it's like a renewed interest. And so now I 673 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 4: think me and the whole family we're gonna go up 674 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 4: in entygle curl. 675 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: That's pretty awesome. Yeah, they had there has a local club. 676 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: By the way. I got into an argument to think 677 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: this last week about it. Nice trades, by the way. 678 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: That's good. That never said something about us. 679 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: I well, I don't want to go too far off 680 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: of this, but I just want to say, certainly sending 681 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 1: our thoughts and prayers to Doug bass family today. 682 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: That's like I said, he's a no. 683 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: Doubt an icon here in Denver, certainly with that organization, 684 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: and you know, like you want to send some thoughts 685 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: to his family. 686 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 2: On you know, for the Nuggets. 687 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, man did this upcoming twenty seven game 688 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: stretch because I asked Nick about it. 689 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's there is a lot to learn. 690 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: Necessarily, it's just find find your spot because you're gonna 691 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: be a playoff team. 692 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 2: Find your spot in hopefully the top four. 693 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: If you can get it even then you have a 694 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,959 Speaker 1: better road record, so you're a team that knows how 695 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: to do that. You want to have at least home advantage, 696 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: home court advantage in the first round, and then after 697 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: that you know you're gonna probably be traveling anyways, Like 698 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: eventually you're gonna play Oklahoma City. 699 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: If if if you do this thing right now, maybe. 700 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: You try to make a play to not be on 701 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: that side of the brackets initially and not see them 702 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: until maybe the Western Conference finals. Maybe David Adelman could 703 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: work things out in a certain way. I don't know 704 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: if I like that, but here for the stretch, I 705 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: completely agree with Nick. I just get healthy. Just find 706 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: a way to get as healthy as you can possibly 707 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: be heading into the postseason. 708 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 4: I don't think it ever works out when teams try 709 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 4: to force their way into a certain position, because you 710 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 4: know you're playing with your lineup, you're you're not exactly 711 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 4: trying to win games, and at the end of the year, 712 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 4: winning games is the most important thing. And I think 713 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 4: for this NETS team, obviously it's about getting healthy, but 714 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 4: it's about them playing together before the playoffs. You've got 715 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 4: to get healthy soon so that they're five, can actually 716 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 4: get healthy and play together and actually really six because 717 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 4: that Peyton Watson into the mix. Also, you need those 718 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 4: guys get reps together. You need those guys that get 719 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 4: minutes together, because you don't want it to be playoff time. 720 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 2: You may not get that French time. 721 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 4: And you've got a bunch of guys that are used 722 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 4: to having the ball because everybody's been hurt. 723 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: But you may not get that. 724 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 4: And it's going to be tough. Yeah, but it's going 725 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 4: to be tough. But you know you have. 726 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: Nicole Joker, you right, the best player in basketball, one 727 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: of the one of the one. 728 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: Of It's very easy to say, it's just three letters. 729 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 4: I think he is a between one and three. You 730 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 4: can switch out a lot of players and it could 731 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 4: be a big argument, but I definitely believe that he 732 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 4: is one of the greatest talents this league has ever seen. 733 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 1: Okay, we can find that common grap that's good. 734 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 4: No, I've always believed that he's one of that. I 735 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 4: also believe Giannis is too, but Nicole, I would say, 736 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 4: what he lacks in athleticism, he beats you honest in 737 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,720 Speaker 4: every other fundamental you know. So I believe that Nikolakich 738 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 4: night in, you know, night out, can drop a triple double, 739 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 4: can and can have can set up his teammates, and 740 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 4: I think that's his best trait. He sets up his 741 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 4: teammates for success. And I think right there, that's the 742 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 4: true trait of a generational superstar.