1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Michael, especially during the holidays. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 2: It's it's kind of disconcerting, you know, to tune in 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: to the podcast and I hear you. But at the 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: same time, it's it's really cool that I get to 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: hear some new voices after If it wasn't for the 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: holidays and Jesse Kelly taking off, I never would have 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: got to hear you, and and I think of you 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: as part of my family. 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Thank you. 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 3: Would like I could start the new year out in 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 3: the first program of the new year with a hearty 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: thank you for that very nice talkback. 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: Do you know what airy code that was from? 14 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 4: Guy? 15 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: I do not, okay, But instead I would be my 16 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 3: typical jerk self. 17 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 5: You were just waiting for the other shoe to drop, 18 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 5: weren't you. 19 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: No, If I'm a member of the family, where's my gift? 20 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 5: Here's how the two of us are different. To me, 21 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 5: the formerly fat ass five three and fifty plus pound guy, 22 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 5: You're thinking where's my gift? And I'm thinking, where's my 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 5: Christmas dinner invite? 24 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, well I take that too, although not knowing, 25 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: but he might be the crazy uncle. 26 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 5: He might be the crazy one, so you don't really 27 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 5: want to go over there. 28 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:18,279 Speaker 1: For dinner. 29 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 3: You just want them to like send you a really 30 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: nice gift. Yeah, sure that will work, you know, which 31 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: would probably end up being what a gift card to 32 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: Sears Sears roebucking company. I'm trying to think of anything 33 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: I could that doesn't exist anymore. I don't think there 34 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 3: are any Seers. 35 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 5: Maybe some outlets and like the back end of a 36 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 5: strip mall that you really don't want to go to. 37 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, we do have some news today, 38 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: and I'll. 39 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 5: I'm surprised you were able to fit through the door 40 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 5: with your ego. 41 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: Well, between that and then the email I just received 42 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: from our head muckety muck that is actually you know 43 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 3: what this comes from, mister Chris Berry. Mister Chris Berry 44 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: happens to be the he's the head of twenty four 45 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: to seven News and he is like the senior VP here. 46 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get his title wrong, so you'll probably beat 47 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 3: now he's gonna beat pissed off about. 48 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 5: That signature line in the email. 49 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: Oh yes here Executive vice president News talking sports. So 50 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: he's over all of that, like he's over Jojoe, you 51 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: know and everybody else. Michael, I had a chance this 52 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: literally just came in like eight fifty nine. I had 53 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 3: a chance to listen to the Weekend and was very 54 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: pleased with how you were able to develop the Venezuela 55 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: story just hours after it broke. It seems like we've 56 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: got a lot of news stories on the weekend, and 57 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: you do a terrific job of giving it to your 58 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 3: listeners in real time. 59 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: Well done, Chris. 60 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 5: Wow Wow, Wow, wow wow. 61 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: I have to say that truly, that to me is 62 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: coming from who it comes from. And I've known Christopher. 63 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm in my what nineteenth year here 64 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: or something. I've known chrispher ten years or something, But 65 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: I've never had that. It's always been hey can you 66 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: It's always been a request, can you go do this? 67 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 3: Can you go do that? Can you go do this? 68 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: It's been always been that sort of stuff. It's never 69 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 3: been a hey wow, that was really good stuff. And 70 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: we have some other breaking news today which even makes 71 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: my head even bigger. How many AM stations do we 72 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: have in this in this building? 73 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 5: Three AM stations? 74 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: We got Freedom over here ninety three seven, seven sixty AM. 75 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: We've got our old stomping ground six thirty k out 76 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: six thirty AM. And of course we got the blowtorchs 77 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: here eight fifty AM ninety four to one FM News 78 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: Radio KOA, right, correct, Yeah, guess who is now back 79 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: on the old station and now is the only person 80 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: in the tire building on all three A M stations. 81 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: We need to get like a bulldozer here to make 82 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: this door. 83 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 5: Double wide the jaws of life. 84 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, to get my big exploding ego in through the door. Uh, 85 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: you want to tell them what we're doing. I guess 86 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: we're not doing it. 87 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 5: We were told I'm doing it. But yeah, yeah, uh huh, 88 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 5: I'm doing more work to make sure that this happens. 89 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 5: But but you, I'm. 90 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: Sure that there will be you know, do compensation for 91 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: the extra work this year doing just as I've been assured. 92 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: Checks the mailbox, nothing there yet about you know, do 93 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 3: compensation for you know, using my voice everywhere? What time 94 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 3: is it two to four? AMNA be calling it? Actually 95 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 3: we should say what are these? You and I had 96 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 3: no say in this books. I guess we had a 97 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 3: little bit to say. It was kind of like, hey, 98 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 3: here's what we're doing here. Are you okay with this? 99 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: I like you. 100 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: That's kind of a passive aggressive way of saying, Hey, 101 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: here's what we're doing. We don't really care what you 102 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 3: think we're doing it anyway, but we thought we'd just 103 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: give you an opportunity to if you object, you know 104 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: you can object now why I don't know why we 105 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 3: would have objected. 106 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: There's no reason to object. 107 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 5: Of course. You wouldn't, you know, object to any of 108 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 5: this because you're not doing anything extra to work on this. Me, 109 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 5: on the other hand, I got a couple of buttons 110 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 5: I need to push. 111 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: So from two to four on six thirty k h 112 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 3: w W k h o w h. It's called situates. 113 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 3: Michael Brown. 114 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 5: What reloaded? Michael Brown reloads? 115 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: Oh, Michael Brown, situations Michael Brown reloaded correct from two 116 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: to four on six thirty K. 117 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 5: You haven't even heard the opener yet. You you want 118 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 5: me to play that here for me? 119 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't heard it at all, haven't you? Again? 120 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 3: This is this situation reloaded with Michael Brown reloading top 121 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: moments from today's situation now. 122 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 5: Nine to noon on K away. Oh, there you go. 123 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 5: Let's they just you know, they put some time into that. 124 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 3: They actually, between Tepper and AJ and the voiceover guy, 125 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: the v O guy, they actually did a fairly decent job. 126 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 3: Should we give them a golf clap? 127 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 5: Why not? 128 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: Anything happened while we were gone, not a thing. 129 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 5: I didn't pay attention to this single bit of news 130 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 5: at all. 131 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 3: I didn't for the first few days, and then I 132 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 3: just I couldn't resist, And of course then I had 133 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 3: to come back and I and I'm so glad I 134 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: did the Saturday program. One because Chris Barry heard it, 135 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: but two because it was It allowed me to I'm 136 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 3: not gonna let that one go. It allowed me to 137 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: ease back into things. Of course, I eased back into 138 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: it by spending the entire three hours dissecting everything you 139 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: could possibly want to know about what was going on 140 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: in Venezuela. 141 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 5: Oh real quick, let's get to the text line three 142 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 5: three one zero three from Gouber number seventy five forty 143 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 5: four of Mike. Isn't this how cancer sells take over 144 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 5: an organism? 145 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I am the cancer of iHeart. 146 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: I'm metastciding, I'm metastasizing every Oh you know, I haven't 147 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: done that yet, but that you remind me, I've not 148 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: yet opened the text line for today, so I've got 149 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: to go do that. 150 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 5: Three three one zero three text Mike or Michael, wait 151 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 5: for the verification code. That's still annoying, and that's still 152 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 5: going on. 153 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: That's still going on, and I'm still trying to get 154 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: the eliminating the keyword Mike or Michael, but we have 155 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: not yet accomplished that. So let me put in the 156 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: verification code and get to log in and yes, oh 157 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: here's a nice one. Let's see, good morning, and welcome 158 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: back to you, mister redbeer. This is gooder number six 159 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: zero eight five, six zero eight five. Stupid question of 160 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: the day. The Duro was air quotes here, collected in 161 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: the middle of the night, and arrived in New York 162 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: on Saturday morning. By Saturday morning, there were already protesters 163 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: with matching signs marching in the streets. How do they 164 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 3: have time to get any signs, much less matching signs? 165 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,559 Speaker 3: What am I missing? Well, Goober's six zero eighty five. 166 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: If you stay tuned, you might learn what the term 167 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: AstroTurf means and exactly what was going on in New York. 168 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: The city so nice they named it twice. So let's 169 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 3: get rolling. But we're not going to do Venezuela just yet, 170 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: because there is I'm always fascinating. Having been privileged in 171 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: my lifetime to have been inside the bubble with potus 172 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 3: on you know, dozens and dozens and dozens of occasions. 173 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: I know what it's like when the president is driving 174 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 3: along in the motor case and says to the driver 175 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: or to the head of his security detail, Hey, I 176 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: want to stop and get a diet coke, or let's 177 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: stop at the donut shop, or let's you know, go 178 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 3: through in and out or whatever it might be, all 179 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: of which I have seen happen. So we're getting ready 180 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 3: to execute a precision, highly coordinated military slash criminal activity 181 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: inside a Did you knowl A. Maduro lived on a 182 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: military base. He didn't live like in some presidential palace. 183 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: He lived on a military base. And in that base 184 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: or on that base or whatever you know, breaks that 185 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 3: he was living in, there was a safe house. 186 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: And so the military, you know. 187 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 3: The CIA, the military, the DEA, everybody had everything co ordinated, 188 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: and they grabbed him just as he was getting into 189 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 3: the safe house. That's amazing. But what all went on 190 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: before that? And you think I want to talk about 191 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: all the logistics. You think I want to talk about 192 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: all of the the effort and the planning, the op sect. 193 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: It's amazing. I think if anything. 194 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 3: Secretary of War, Secretary of Defense, whatever we're supposed to 195 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: call him, I don't know. 196 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: I don't care. Pete Heggs, I think learned was it? 197 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: We chat? Was it? What's happened? What telegraph? 198 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: What were they texting on when we were going to 199 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 3: bomb him? And and he texted his wife and somebody 200 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: else about, oh the universe launch the bombs in a 201 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: couple of hours, and it almost I think it almost 202 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: cost him his job this time. Nothing absolutely nothing in 203 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: terms of leaks about this about to take place. But 204 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 3: I just find this fascinating because I've seen it happen before, 205 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 3: but nobody reports it that. 206 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: I don't think the. 207 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: Press pool, the White House presspool that was down in 208 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: mar Lago reported on this. Trump had the motorcade pulled 209 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: into a Florida strip mall Friday morning. I don't know 210 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: where they're going from the airport to mar Alogo. I thought, 211 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: I don't know what they he arrived, but think about this, 212 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: he knows it in the back of his head, or 213 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: maybe in the in the Frontel Forte. 214 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: I don't the frontal lobe, I don't. 215 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 3: I don't know where it was, but somewhere in his 216 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 3: head he knew that I'm going to pull the plug 217 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: on this operation at some point, and that's got to 218 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 3: be you know, you hope it. You hope it doesn't 219 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 3: turn into a Jimmy Carter fiasco, you know in Caracas. 220 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: You hope it turns into a a you know, a 221 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: successful operation. But on the way you decide, hey, guys, 222 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: pull over here. According to White House pool reports, the 223 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: motorcade arrived at a shopping center in Lakewood Worth, Florida, 224 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 3: at nine six in the morning on Friday, and Trump 225 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: went him to arc Stone and Tile. If you look 226 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: up Arcstone and Tile, this is great. This is great 227 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 3: advertising for them, isn't it. They're an importer of Italian marble, marble, 228 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: Italian marble. A White House official says that the President 229 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 3: was buying lake and Onyx marble at his own expense 230 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 3: for that ballroom that is going to be built on 231 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: the east end of the White House complex. Now, of course, 232 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 3: their critics have to chime in, and we're gonna I 233 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 3: find it funny because there's a parallel to the criticism 234 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: here about Venezuela, who originally put now Trump indicted Maduro. 235 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 3: Biden put up a reward. I think I started out 236 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 3: at twenty five million dollars. Fifteen US senators signed a 237 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: letter to Trump asking why have you got Maduro? 238 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: Now? They never wrote Trump Biden, they never asked Biden that. 239 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: But Democrat senators were really upset in Trump one point, oh, 240 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: that he didn't go after Maduro. Those very same senators 241 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 3: Now that he's captured, absconded, whatever word you want to 242 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: use Maduro, now they're all pitching and moaning about it. 243 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 3: This is American politics in twenty twenty six. Just take 244 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: every single thing you believe or here and just take 245 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 3: it with a grain of salt and just you know, 246 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: it's either AI or it's just total utter bullcrap. 247 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 5: It's amazing to me. But back to the ball Back 248 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 5: to the ballroom. 249 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 3: So the president was apparently going to buy some Onyx 250 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: marble at his own expense for this ballroom. But of 251 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 3: course the critics have to get upset about it. The 252 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: New Republic claims that Trump was shopping for his construction 253 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 3: project on the taxpayer's dime. Now technically he was, but 254 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: is that a criticism because if the president, if the 255 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: president finishes his day and he he goes to the 256 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 3: East Wing, goes up to the residents, it has dinner. 257 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: He's having dinner on the taxpayers dime. Yes, because he's 258 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: getting paid his salary. Yes, And he's living in public housing. 259 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: The utilities are paid for by the taxpayers. 260 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 5: Isn't he still done? I'm not humber sent sort I 261 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 5: have looked at I haven't looked this up yet. But 262 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 5: isn't he still donating his presidential salary? 263 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: Well? I haven't gotten to that yet. 264 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: He's donating his salary, and he's paying for the marble 265 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: that he bought. 266 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 5: And I arguement like you were saying that, Yeah, that 267 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 5: the everybody around him and fueling the Beast and the 268 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 5: Secret Service and all that kind of stuff. That's that 269 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 5: is the tax all. 270 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: The embedded costs. Right, That's what happens when you're president. 271 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 3: Right. So if you, for example, if if Bush and 272 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: I are driving along somewhere in southern California and during 273 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 3: the wildfires in two thousand and three, and Bush decides 274 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: he wants an in and out burger, and we stopped 275 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: it at the in and out to get a burger, 276 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: that's on taxpayer's dying even if we paid for it ourselves. 277 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: But that's the new Republic for you. That's the state 278 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: of politics today. Now it's interesting, interesting to me because 279 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: this is somebody that doesn't get reported widely. But apparently 280 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: Trump has a history of incorporating marble into his projects. 281 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: He remodeled the bathroom. I didn't know this in the 282 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: Lincoln bedroom. The Lincoln bedrooms sweet because it's not really 283 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: just a bedroom, it's a sweet entirely in marble. He 284 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: is an apparently you can find those photos on Truth 285 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: Social Truth Social. I did it in black and white 286 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 3: poly statuary marble. And he says that the design he 287 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: chose was appropriate for the Lincoln era. Now, the ballroom construction, 288 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: of course, a dragon points out, is facing scrutiny since 289 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: it began with the demolition of the And I want 290 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: to point out here when I say the east wing, 291 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: I'm talking about what you see like if you were 292 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: to walk on Lafayette Park just north of the White House, 293 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: you'll see that those big columns that's the East wing, 294 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: and upstairs is the residence. The west wing is actually 295 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: a little difficult to see from Lafayette Park because it's 296 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: lower at a lower elevation, and it kind of sits lower. 297 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: That's the west wing. 298 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: So when people talk about him demolishing the east wing, 299 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 3: that is technically incorrect. What he demolished was it would 300 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: be almost In fact, it was about the same size 301 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: as a double White and it kind of looked like 302 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 3: a double White on the inside too. It was a structure. 303 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: I don't know what the dimensions of it were because 304 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: it's now been demolished, but it was just added on 305 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 3: to the East wing. It was an East Wing annex, 306 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 3: and it was just a bunch of dusty, dirty old 307 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 3: offices that sometimes were used by the First Lady's office 308 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: or if there were some like a commission like there 309 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: there was this FEMA I don't know whether they used 310 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: it or not, but this commission that was gathered from 311 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 3: around the country to look at what to do with FEMA. 312 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: Well they may have met in that area. They may 313 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: have Mountain Roosevelt Room too. But my point is this 314 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 3: was just a small annex about the size of a 315 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 3: double wide, attached to the East Wing. But everybody wants 316 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 3: to make you think that they've torn down the East Wing. No, 317 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 3: that would mean that would mean tearing down the White House. 318 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: As most people picture it when I when I say 319 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: the White House, that picture you have in your mind, 320 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 3: that's actually the East Wing. And then later on Friday 321 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 3: and into Saturday morning, that's when Trump over all the 322 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 3: operation to capture the president of the illegitimate President of Venezuela, 323 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 3: Nicholas Maduro. So I just thought that was kind of 324 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 3: an interesting little tidbit about, you know, get a lot 325 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 3: of things on your mind. I gotta buy some marble, 326 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: and I got to capture a president and then have dinner, 327 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 3: you know what. That's all I gotta do. So hang tight, 328 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 3: We'll be. 329 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: Right back, Ronnie. I can't believe you took two weeks off. 330 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: I had to listen to holiday programming in this rig 331 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: or should we call it holiday reprogramming? 332 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: Hell, I almost turned democrat. 333 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 5: I'll be honest with us. Did you think about him 334 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 5: during the Christmas break? 335 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: Honestly I did one time because we were I can 336 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: tell you ex might be where it was too. We 337 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 3: were going on the one oh one down to Skyarboro 338 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: Airport and traffic with it's just it was just bizarre. 339 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 3: And there was a truck. You know how we here, 340 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: we can't weave enter out of the the HLV lanes. Yeah, 341 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 3: well in Arizona you can't. And they're very good at 342 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 3: it too. By the way, my daughter's excellent at it. 343 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: I know it drove Tammer crazy, but she's excellent getting 344 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: in and out of the hov LANX. But there was 345 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 3: a semi doing it, and I just for that brief moment, thought, yeah. 346 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 5: That's him. It's exactly something he would. 347 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: Do, exactly what he would do. 348 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 3: So I spent considerable time on Saturday talking about why 349 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: the arrest of Maduro was legal. It was lawful, and 350 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: obviously it was long overdue. So I don't want to 351 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: go through in detail, but I want to spend at 352 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 3: least some time giving you a baseline to explain why 353 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: I think it's legal. He was not seized as the 354 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 3: president of Venezuela. In fact, I don't consider him to 355 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: be the president of Venezuela. He was a dictator that 356 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: had just usurped power on his own and was sitting 357 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 3: on the presidential throne. He was seized captured as an 358 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 3: indicted narcotics trafficker, and that fact matters. It's not a 359 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 3: rhetorical fact, it's not a rhetorical flourish. It is a fact, 360 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 3: and in fact it's the organizing premise of the case. 361 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 3: Now we can and you should be able to have 362 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 3: several thoughts in your mind at the same time. Yes, 363 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: I understand that he was a tyrant, he was a dictator, 364 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: and he claimed to be the president of Venezuela, and 365 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 3: clearly arresting him is going to have political and international implications. 366 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. 367 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 3: But there's no doubt that if you were to arrest 368 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 3: the head of the Sineloa cartel, it would have political 369 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 3: ramifications in Mexico. It might not, well, maybe it would, 370 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 3: you know, quite frankly, if it would, I wouldn't be 371 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be opposed to that if the arrest of 372 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: the Sina Looa cartel leader resulted in the demise of 373 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 3: the Mexican government and put in a or create enough 374 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 3: chaos that there was a friendlier Mexican government elected in Mexico, 375 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: and I'd be all for that, because I'm for the 376 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: for the incarceration, the arrest, the incarceration, the trial, and 377 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: I'd like to see the death penalty imposed. But I 378 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 3: you know, that's just wishful thinking. But if they get 379 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 3: since supermacs, then Colorado would have something at least good 380 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 3: that we could say, hey, we're good for something, and 381 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 3: we got super Max down here, and we've got all 382 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 3: these narco terrafs being held down in in Florence. 383 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: That would be a good thing. 384 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 3: Right, It's better than all the other crap going on 385 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 3: in Colorado right now. So let's gool all the way 386 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 3: back to March of twenty twenty, federal prosecutors in the 387 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 3: Southern District of New York unsealed the charges against Maduro 388 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 3: for narco terrorism, cocaine trafficking, weapons offenses, and conspiracy to 389 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: import massive quantities of drugs. The indictment alleged that he 390 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 3: was the head of the Cartel Dele Solis. That is, 391 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: this is a fact, that is a transnational criminal organization 392 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 3: that is embedded within Venezuela security services and their political institutions. Now, 393 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: these charges are not just you know, paper tigers. They 394 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 3: carry life sentences. In fact, he very well could end 395 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: up on some military compound somewhere. Maybele send him up 396 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 3: to Girl Dad in Alaska and they can jail him 397 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: up there somewhere, But more than likely he might end 398 00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: up in supermacs. There was a a I forget, was 399 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: it fifty million? Biden had twenty five million. I thought 400 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 3: we had up to it. So there was somewhere between 401 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 3: a twenty five and a fifty million dollar reward for 402 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: information leading to his arrest. From that moment forward, from 403 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 3: the indictment from the Biden administration offering a reward to 404 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 3: the Trump administration upping their reward, Maduro was not being 405 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 3: treated by the United States as a protected sovereign. That's 406 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: an important distinction to understand. He was not a protected sovereign. 407 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: I forget. 408 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 3: For example, I got a text message over the weekend 409 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 3: from a listener from somewhere out in the hinterlands. They said, well, 410 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 3: what would you think that if some foreign country decided 411 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 3: to fly in the in the dead of night and 412 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 3: arrest Donald Trump and haul him off to their country 413 00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 3: for trial. And I pointed out that your prem is 414 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 3: faulty because here you have an indicted individual that is 415 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 3: not duly elected. You cannot challenge that Trump was duly elected. 416 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 3: Number one. Number two. They couldn't pull that off because 417 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: you have well you get the Pentagon right there. You 418 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 3: have not all always, but there is a how can 419 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 3: I say this without. 420 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 5: Violating any sort of Secrecy Agreement. 421 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: There are. 422 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 3: There are certainly protective devices, anti aircraft, all sorts of 423 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 3: security measures on the sixteen acres that comprise the White 424 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: House compound. So if some foreign country, and I think 425 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: I used France as an example, but that France is 426 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: the wrong example. Let's use Yemen, or let's use the Iranians. 427 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 3: The Iranians because they hate us right now and they 428 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 3: want to assassinate They want to assassinate Bush forty three. 429 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 3: They want to assassinate Well, Cheney's dead now they can't 430 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 3: assassinate him. Well, they might still try if they clear 431 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 3: you whatether to assassinate Trump. So let's see the Uranians 432 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 3: decide to fly over Well nor Rad, somebody south, Tom 433 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: North com Somebody's going to intercept those flights. They're never 434 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: going to make it to the White House. They probably 435 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 3: wouldn't make it onto US airspace. So that would be 436 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 3: the first thing that would happen. The second thing would 437 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 3: happen if they did, somebody's gonna shoot him down. Military 438 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 3: aircraft are going to shoot them down. If they did 439 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 3: make it into the White House, that would be a kidnapping, 440 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 3: and that would cause us. 441 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: To do what I mean think of it. 442 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 3: Seriously, what would happen if somebody, if the Uranians made 443 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: it all the way into into the Oval office or 444 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 3: the residents, and they captured Trump, put a hood over 445 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 3: him and hauled him out, put him on a chopper, 446 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,479 Speaker 3: got him somewhere where they had a plane, and flew 447 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: him out of the country. What do you think we 448 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 3: would do? We would bomb the Fisis out of the Iranians. 449 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 3: It would start a war. So the premise of that 450 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: text was incorrect because what's happened since we capture Maduro nothing, 451 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 3: which is a whole another subject we're going to get to, 452 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 3: because I think there are a whole lot of things 453 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 3: that are going to happen, some things that do need 454 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 3: to happen, and some things that are just naturally going 455 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 3: to occur because we've created somewhat of a power vacuum. 456 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 3: I know the vice president has now assumed the presidency 457 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 3: in Venezuela, but she's a communist. She is the head 458 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 3: of the she's the facto head of the security services. 459 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: She's the one that disappears people in Venezuela. So this 460 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 3: action was legal, and I want to explain why it 461 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 3: was legal. Following the fraudulent elections. In twenty eighteen, Venzuela 462 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: National Assembly declared the presidency vacant and they recognize Wuanguado 463 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 3: as the interim president under their constitution. More than fifty 464 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 3: other countries did the same thing. So we then the 465 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 3: United States formally withdrew recognition from Maduro's regime and we 466 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 3: put the label of illegitimate on it. That matters because 467 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 3: heads of state immunity is not some you know, ephemeral, 468 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 3: metaphysical kind of idea. It is a legal consequence of recognition. 469 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 3: States decide, and by states, I mean governments, countries decide 470 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 3: who they treat as governments. And when that recognition is withdrawn, 471 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 3: any immunity that that person has complete dissolves with it. 472 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: And that's not controversial. That's something that courts have long 473 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 3: held that immunity flows from recognition decisions made by the 474 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 3: political branches. And we recognize political decision made by political 475 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 3: branches in other countries too. So when the executive branch 476 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 3: says an individual is not a recognized head of state, 477 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 3: then the courts defer to that decision because they did 478 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 3: a political decision. That is not a legal decision. It's 479 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: also a matter of separation of powers. So as early 480 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 3: as twenty twenty, American prosecutors had described Maduro as the 481 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 3: de facto ruler who had usurped power corrupted all the 482 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 3: state institutions in order to facilitate international drug trafficking. And 483 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 3: that is exactly how the indictment frames his status. Now, 484 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 3: extra territorial jurisdiction in drug cases is very well established. 485 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: What do I mean by. 486 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: Extra territorial jurisdiction? If I'm a known drug dealer and 487 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 3: I'm dealing infentannel like Maduro or coke, and I run 488 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: off to and let's use France. Now I run off 489 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: to hide somewhere in Perie. You think I'm not subject 490 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 3: to the long arm of the law from the United States. 491 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 3: You don't think that they can't arrest me. Now in France, 492 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: it would be particularly easy because we probably have an 493 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 3: extradition treaty with France. So in cooperation with French authorities 494 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: or on their own, the FBI could track me down 495 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 3: in Paris and arrest me, hold me there. 496 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: Now. The French government. 497 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 3: May say fine, tation, we don't care, or the French 498 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: government say, wait, wait a minute, go through our extradition process. 499 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: The point being courts and this extra territorial jurisdiction and 500 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 3: drug cases is a well established tenet of American jurisprudence. 501 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: And when foreign conduct is intended to produce criminal effects 502 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: inside this country, our jurisdiction of patches to the individual 503 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 3: engaged in those activities. You don't have to declare war. 504 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 3: All these stupid democrats out there claiming, oh, you should 505 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 3: have declared war, you should have come to us. No, 506 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 3: not at all. In fact, well, we'll get to I 507 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 3: don't whether get to it today or not. But I 508 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: think the War Powers Act is not as a whole, 509 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 3: but part of it I think is unconstitutional. But we 510 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: also have president. We got some really good president here, 511 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 3: Manuel nor Jega. Does that ring a bell? Let's talk 512 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 3: about Manuel, old pimple face, Manuel nor Jega. 513 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 4: Next, Michael, I'm glad that you were able to get away, 514 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 4: and I hope at the time with your therapist was helpful. 515 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 4: But you need to seriously reconsider leaving Gubernation untended for 516 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 4: such an extended period of time. Some of these people 517 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 4: don't do well unsupervised. It's pandelarium. 518 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: Okay. 519 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 4: I'm glad you and dead Beard are back, and I 520 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 4: hope you have a happy New Year. 521 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 3: Dead Beard, Yeah like that. Dead Beard, sure got the 522 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 3: dead braaik. Dead Beard's all just kind of dead back 523 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: there anyway. 524 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 5: And my father, Franklin gray Beard looks exactly like Jerry Garcia. Serious. 525 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'll sure you've. 526 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: Got the kind of fuller beard that's kind of. 527 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 5: Puffed out, straight gray and gray hair. And he's got 528 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 5: the big sung the big glasses as well. Maybe it 529 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 5: is very well could be he's sorry tangent, but he's 530 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 5: got a T shirt whenever it goes on vacation that says, 531 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 5: and you thought I was dead. It's beautiful. I love it. 532 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: I bet there's a lot of double things, yeah. 533 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 5: Especially when he goes to Vegas. Oh yeah, oh yeah, 534 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 5: there's a lot of people Jerry No, well, you know 535 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 5: Elvis is still alive of course. 536 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And Paul McCartney's dead. 537 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 538 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 3: So back in nineteen eighty eight, Manuel pimple Face Nor Yeah, 539 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 3: it gets indicted by a US grand jury on drug 540 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 3: traffic and rocketeering charges. But at the time he was 541 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: the de facto ruler of Panama. And he also although 542 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 3: I don't really think Maduall's done this yet, Noyega claimed 543 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 3: sovereign immunity, but like Maduro, he dismissed the charges as 544 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 3: just being a political act. 545 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: And also, like Madul. 546 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 3: Nor Diega nullified elections in Panama and intrenched himself as 547 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 3: the leader, as the so called president through force. So 548 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 3: when American forces entered Panama in December of nineteen eighty nine, 549 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 3: the objective was not regime change, although over time that 550 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 3: is exactly what happened. The objective was to arrest nor Diega, 551 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: protect US nationals that were working in particularly in Panama City, 552 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 3: and to restore Panama's legitimate government. So he was captured, 553 00:32:54,680 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 3: I don't think ironically on January three, nineteen ninety. January three, 554 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 3: the same date that Maduro was captured, and he was 555 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 3: flown to Florida to stand trial, and all in Noriego's 556 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 3: lawyers they, you know, they raised all the same arguments 557 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 3: the Democrats are raising right now. They claim the invasion 558 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 3: was illegal, They claimed that Noriego was immune. They claim 559 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 3: that it's captured, you know, shocked the conscience of a 560 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 3: country that is based on the rule of law, and 561 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: the federal courts said, nope, none of that applies. The 562 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 3: judge actually held that Noriega had no head of state 563 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 3: immunity because this country had never recognized him as Panama's 564 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 3: lawful leader. That's that recognition doctrine that I'm talking about. 565 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 3: So the court refused to adjudicate the legality of the 566 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 3: military operation. They treated it as a political question. And 567 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 3: the court held that even a forcible apprehension is aren't 568 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 3: most apprehendial? Think about this. I mentioned this Saturday. The 569 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 3: court held that even though the apprehension of Noriego was forcible, 570 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 3: that doesn't bar prosecution unless there had unless there was 571 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 3: torture or some sort of extreme abuse involved, and that 572 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 3: might been a violation of his rights. Wait a minute, 573 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 3: forcible apprehension. Every Friday at eleven am, we do something 574 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 3: called taxpayer relief shots. How many of those involved cops 575 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 3: trying to forcibly apprehend somebody. I'd say about half of them. 576 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 3: The other half are homeowners or business owners or private 577 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 3: end of you know, civilians so to speak. They're trying 578 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 3: to protect their lives or their own or their own property. 579 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 3: Forcible apprehensions. And the court said, Nope, doesn't apply here. 580 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 3: So Noriyega gets convicted, he gets imprisoned, and not one 581 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 3: single appellate court reversed the outcome, and more importantly, the 582 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 3: United Nations, the International Court or Criminal Justice. None of 583 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 3: these international tribunals, not a single one of them, invalidated 584 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: what we did with Noriyega back. 585 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty eight and nineteen eighty nine. 586 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 3: So the Maduro operation is virtually I can't think of 587 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 3: really much difference parallel to what we did with Maduro. 588 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 3: Just like Noriego, Maduro's regime have been delegitimate, delegitimized internationally, 589 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 3: and like Noriega, he was accused of turning a state 590 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 3: into a narcotic zip. And like Noriega, he was arrested 591 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 3: pursued to a criminal indictment. There are no treaties involved, 592 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 3: there's no international law involved. And then think about what 593 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 3: didn't happen, And this is I think the next one 594 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 3: hundred hours, the next hundred days, as I mentioned on Saturday, 595 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 3: will be the most important. We didn't anex venezuela. Now 596 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 3: I don't know whether it's AI or it's fake or 597 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 3: it's real, but I saw on X this morning that 598 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 3: Jijing Ping has said, oh, you think that you're going 599 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 3: to take over the refineries, You're going to take over, 600 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 3: you know, Venezuela. We've been We loaned all of this 601 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 3: money to Venezuela to build all of this infrastructure, which 602 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 3: when you look around at Caracus or any of the 603 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 3: other places, it's like, hmmm, you kind of got ripped 604 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 3: off because I don't see anything new in Venezuela. So 605 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 3: if jiging Ping thinks that somehow he's going to sue, 606 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 3: he's going to descend ten thousand lawyers to somehow overturn 607 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 3: what we did, we'll just ignore it. 608 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: And what are they going to do? 609 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 3: Are they Are they going to invade Venezuela. No, I 610 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 3: don't think so. It proves maybe you should have done 611 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 3: a credit report, Maybe you before you. 612 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: Loaned them all that money. 613 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: Maybe you should have checked out Maduro or Venezuela's credit 614 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 3: score before you loaned them all the money. So what 615 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 3: happens next, Well that's to be seen.