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Speaker 2: There's a big piece in the Wall Street Journal today

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Speaker 2: by see the psychiatrist or a psychologist, and he's writing

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Speaker 2: that Trump derangement syndrome is actually real, that there are

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Speaker 2: some people that are mentally affected by their reaction to Trump.

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Speaker 2: There are a couple of issues nationally that I want

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Speaker 2: to deal with, but I'm going to put them under

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Speaker 2: the umbrella of the way people react to President Trump.

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Speaker 2: I contend that he's misunderstood by almost everyone on the left,

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Speaker 2: both the moderate and the Marxists, and by a lot

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Speaker 2: not an ideologue. I think that he's a pragmatist who

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Speaker 2: happens they have brilliant negotiating skills because he is able

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Speaker 2: to figure out leverage with regard to one of the

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Speaker 2: going to dive into in some depth here the question

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Speaker 2: now of not illegal immigration, but legal immigration, the H

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Speaker 2: in the magaqurotas that will Trump's against immigration is against immigration.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Trump's an ideologue on anything. I think

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Speaker 2: I understand what's going on. There's another big national issue

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Speaker 2: today visit you line dot com. The government shutdown is over.

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Speaker 2: The shorthand of this is that it is a total

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Speaker 2: victory for Trump and the Republicans. They didn't have to

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Speaker 2: capitulate on anything. The exact same terms maybe there's one

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Speaker 2: slight amendment. Otherwise, the exact same terms could have been

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Speaker 2: accepted by the Democrats seven weeks ago and we would

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Speaker 2: have had any of this. This raises a whole lot

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Speaker 2: of questions, like if they were going to cave, why

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Speaker 2: did they start this anyway, or did they actually think

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Speaker 2: Trump would buckle? And what made them think that Trump

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Speaker 2: would buckle again. One of the things that I put

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Speaker 2: on with Trump is the thing that makes it. One

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Speaker 2: of the things that makes him a great negotiator is

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Speaker 2: he is able to size up the other side's weaknesses.

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Speaker 2: And he looked here, and this was a situation in

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Speaker 2: which the Republicans reunited. You know, over there in the Senate,

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Speaker 2: were solid on board on this because what Trump was

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Speaker 2: So you didn't have any Republican breaking ranks here. And

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Speaker 2: Trump knew that over in the House, you didn't. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to buckle. My side isn't going to buckle.

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Speaker 2: So why should I change anything? Which brings us to

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Speaker 2: the question of why did the Democrats do this? Why

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Speaker 2: food stamps. The House Speaker Mike Johnson appeared on Sean

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Speaker 2: I think his analysis is exactly correct, which is why

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Speaker 2: we're going to play it.

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Speaker 3: This shutdown never was about health care. It wasn't about

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Speaker 3: Jeffries are from New York. They needed to get political

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Speaker 3: That is one hundred percent what this was about from

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Speaker 3: It was a selfish political stunt. It yielded nothing but

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Speaker 2: I think he's exactly right. I think that that's what

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Speaker 2: Jeffreys represents a district in New York City. He has

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Speaker 2: He knew that he had no leffage, but he felt

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Speaker 2: I've been harguing this for several weeks because there's no pushback.

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Speaker 2: You can say that most Democratic voters are not Marxists,

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Speaker 2: end the shutdown. And the left is blaming Schumer. Schumer

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Speaker 2: He's just the guy that's caving into Marxist. I want

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Speaker 2: to move now to an issue that's royaling Republicans. This

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Speaker 2: is the issue not of illegal immigration, but legal immigration.

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Speaker 2: on work visas, the H one B visas. Trump has

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Speaker 2: and say I really don't know, I really don't know.

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Speaker 2: This is not one of those I believe I do

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Speaker 2: on this issue. No, this is an exchange between Laura

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Speaker 2: Ingram and President Trump. Ingram had Trump on her show

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Speaker 2: B visa thing won't be a big priority for you.

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Speaker 2: If you want to raise wages for Americans. You can't

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Speaker 2: have to bring in talent, Ingram, We have plenty of

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Speaker 2: talented people. Trump, No, you don't, Ingram, We don't have

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Speaker 2: have to learn. You can't take people off the unemployment

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Speaker 2: line and say go make missiles. Ingram, how do we

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Speaker 2: we rated Hyundai for illegal immigrants. They had people from

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Speaker 2: In other words, Trump getting blowback that the mega crowd

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Speaker 2: Clearly Trump isn't buckling an illegal immigration. He's being attacked

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Speaker 2: I was in the baby boom you had the opposite.

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00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: Schools are packed to the rafters, parents are popping out, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

430
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: kids mending all over the place. Almost all those schools

431
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 2: are closed now. I think in the community that I

432
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: grew up in when I was a kid, there were

433
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 2: three Catholic schools, one Lutheran school, and let me count one, two,

434
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: five public elementary schools. Three of the public schools are

435
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: closed and two of the Catholic schools are closed, and

436
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: the Lutheran school is closed. Well, okay, people have a

437
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: been I went to that school, et cetera. The high

438
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: school that I went to, they turned it into a

439
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: middle school, and now they want to knock that down

440
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: and build a new middle school and so on. Okay,

441
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 2: you have memories of all of this, But so what

442
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 2: if you don't need the school, you should close the school,

443
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: sell the school and get it, get it under turn

444
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: it hopefully in a tax batucic property and stop running

445
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: a building that you don't need. Well, my kids go

446
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 2: there and all the other schools another mile. Oh shut up.

447
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: The other factor here, and I've been talking about this,

448
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: is we keep passing all these referendums at school districts,

449
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 2: kept putting up new schools. Don't you realize that all

450
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 2: the projections are on. The reason voters vote for this

451
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,239
Speaker 2: is a they buy into some of this stuff. And

452
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: secondly there's the big con job from the construction firms,

453
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 2: the engineering firms, and the architectural firms who get paid

454
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: to build the schools. Buy me a school district in

455
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: Wisconsin that's not overbuilt. As I say, there are a

456
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: few that are in communities. Just off the top of

457
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: my head, the Sussex, the Hamilton School District, which is

458
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: Sussex and the region around there was an area where

459
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: just a lot of residential growth has gone on. I

460
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: don't know if the enrollment's gone up, but that's been

461
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: an area that's boomed. Another one may say the Slinger area.

462
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: I mean Slinger were just there and now Slinger and

463
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: Richfield are almost merging together. In WESTMND, there's just a

464
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: lot of development there. So there may be a few

465
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: cases where the enrollment is holding firm or even going

466
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: up a little bit, but almost all other cases it's

467
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: just the opposite. Wowatosa, which is the worst run school

468
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: district maybe on the planet. They passed that massive referendum.

469
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: I mean, They're enrollment is hemorrhy like. It's just falling

470
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: and falling and falling. And secondly, the educational quality in Wambatosa.

471
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: Wambatosa went from being one of the best school districts

472
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 2: in the state to one of the worst. Yet they

473
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: put up all of these building sense school you went to,

474
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: Is it still standing? What was it called the Random

475
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: Lake School? Random Lake High School? What about the grade schools?

476
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: Is it's still standing. It's connected of the high school.

477
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: That's probably why they haven't knocked it down, because they're

478
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: afraid that the high school would fall over if they

479
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: knocked it. So the thing of it is, if there's

480
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: only one school in a community, it's hard to close

481
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: that school, even if it's mostly empty. But maybe they're

482
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: not using some of the room, but you know, they'll

483
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: just fill the rooms, so they'll hire more administrators and

484
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: put them into there. And that's The other thing, you

485
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: go back to the era in which the school enrollments

486
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: are huge, the staffing was lower. I remember my grade school.

487
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: We had a principal. She was a nun. That was

488
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: the total admitis. There was the principle and there were teachers.

489
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: There was nobody else. They were like there was like

490
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: a music teacher, especially as a teacher, but there was

491
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: no one else in the administration. You know why everything's

492
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: top heavy, don't you? It's you? What if I what

493
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: did I just tell you on Wednesday? Follow the money.

494
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: If something's top heavy, it means there's a lot of

495
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: jobs that pay more. So all the teachers and everybody

496
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: wants to create these positions because it's more money for them.

497
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: If you were a worker in a field and you

498
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: want to have a lot of jobs that pay the same,

499
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: or would you like to have a lot of jobs

500
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: that are high and numerous management? It was like, you know,

501
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: you go to a factory that's unionized, everybody's in the

502
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: union wants to be the foreman. Why the foreman makes

503
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: more money? And then the foreman wants to you know,

504
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: private sector companies can't afford to have all this massive

505
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,239
Speaker 2: layers of management and top heaviness and so on, and

506
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: the ones that do tend to be the ones that

507
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: get bloated and go under and so on. Now let

508
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: me move to this story. Wait, the travel over the weekend.

509
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: Here's a weird one. This happened at the Atlanta airport

510
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: on Saturday. The ones that didn't fly through Atlanta coming back.

511
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: I went through Atlanta going down there a Frontier Airlines.

512
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: I'm killing you know that Spirit is close to going under.

513
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: I just think all the problems are going to transfer

514
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: over to Frontier. Like the two discount airlines in America,

515
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: Size front are Spirit in Frontier, right, you know. And

516
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: we started our cruises on kind of they weren't like

517
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: what they are now. It was like halfway nice, wasn't it. Yeah,

518
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,959
Speaker 2: it's just the clientele. I don't know. Anyway, this is

519
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: Frontier Now. I'm not lumping all the Frontier. I'm just

520
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: saying that there are a couple of airlines it seemed

521
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: they have way more troubles with their passengers than others.

522
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: And you could psychoanalyzer, socio analyzer, democrat would come up

523
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: with all the reasons you want. Anyway, this is Frontier.

524
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: Frontier plane a passenger on the plane found a loaded

525
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: gun magazine, not the gun, the magazine when you think

526
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: of a weapon, not a revolver, but like a pistol.

527
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: The magazine is the thing that holds the bullets. It's loaded.

528
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: So they went back to the gate. There was no incident,

529
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: but it begs the question how did it get on there?

530
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: And no one really knows because a passenger just founded

531
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: was it something that was stashed there by somebody who

532
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: was gonna get a gun on? But again, there wasn't

533
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: a gun found, just a magazine. So this doesn't make

534
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: any sense to me at all as to how this happened.

535
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: You can't carry them a magazine of bullets on any

536
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: more than a gun. Why would someone not carry the

537
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: gun but carry the magazine. Now, there are ways to

538
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: legally transport a gun by flying, but you have to

539
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: go through rigamarole and it's checked and this, that and

540
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: the other thing. You file a thing and someone, but

541
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: the magazine is the same thing. You're not supposed to

542
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: have bullets in the passenger section of a plane, but

543
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: they're found there and nobody's figured out exactly what it is.

544
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: But I do have a theory. It's how it got

545
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: through TSA. You have a theory, because I do. You

546
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: have no idea? Oh come on, yeah, well, how did

547
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: this happen? The key to the story is when did

548
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: it happen. It happened on Saturday. I'm just telling you,

549
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: as even if you weren't at any airports. The airports

550
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: have been overwhelmed with understaffing TSA air Traffic Control. The

551
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: lines at TSA were out the wazoo at many airports

552
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: and so on. I just suspect, you know, the TSA

553
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: people at whatever this gate, whatever gate this was at Atlanta,

554
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: that something got through that it didn't get seen as

555
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: they were skiing, you know, they look at the X

556
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: ray thing and got through, and they're ninety million people

557
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: in line. They're trying to be as efficient as positive.

558
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 2: I think somebody probably just missed it. That's my guess.

559
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: No acknowledge. My explanation makes a lot of sense to you,

560
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: doesn't it now? It does? Yes, But why would still

561
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: somebody had to have brought it on and it wasn't

562
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: in anybody's bag. A passenger just found it up in

563
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: the I think it was found in the It in

564
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: the overhead. It's in here somewhere. Oh, also there were

565
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: initials on the magazine. Now, sometimes these initials is it's

566
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: somebody sending a message that they're going to do it,

567
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 2: but they weren't done the bullet. It was on the magazine.

568
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: Was this like the owner putting his initials on there?

569
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: That seems like a dumb thing to do. But I

570
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: don't know, I mean, would you ever put your initial

571
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: was on a gun magazine? No? Now, a lot of

572
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: times you'll we don't know what they said. K It

573
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: was found during boarding, So the plane had not yet

574
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: left the ground. It was gonna go from Atlanta to Cincinnati.

575
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: But during boarding a passenger founded the story that I

576
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: have here from Fox News. It's unclear exactly where they

577
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: found it. Was it stuck in a seat? Was it

578
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 2: in the overhead? Did somebody leave it behind from the

579
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: earlier flight? And the notion that somebody's bringing the magazine

580
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: on and somebody later was going to use a gun, well,

581
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: why wouldn't the person just bring them both on because

582
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: he had doing it separate? Would require you to do

583
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: two separate things. None of it makes any sense. Or

584
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: here's another theory. Somebody by mistake brought it on. Was

585
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: supposed to be in their check bag, and they're afraid

586
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: of getting caught, so they just drop it over the

587
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: thing and it's found in the Who knows, Paul said,

588
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 2: federal marshall's a armed on planes. Yeah, so you think

589
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: this is one of theirs, and that guy's not gonna

590
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: come forward if you're the other guy that lost it,

591
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: I'm guessing they would know on that plane though, when

592
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: which if there was a federal march boy, I don't

593
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of Marshalls in many of these

594
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: flights anymore, at least, I just I never see any Well,

595
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: I know that you're supposed to be undercover and all

596
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 2: of that, I never see anybody that ever looks like it.

597
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: I ended up plane and everybody looks like a shlup.

598
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: I mean I look like above the I look above

599
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: the level of most of the other people that are

600
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: getting on, and I'm just a shlump. Everybody's getting on

601
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:40,479
Speaker 2: the plane looks like you or me or somebody like that. Well, yeah,

602
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: I mean there used to be, and I think I

603
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: think I dress properly to fly. I mean I'm not

604
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: wearing a suit or attire or anything, but like in

605
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: the summer. I'm not sitting there with short shorts, and yes, yeah,

606
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 2: it's showing you skin all over the place. And then

607
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: there's that whole debate or for people, there's just this

608
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: big thing because of all these videos on YouTube of

609
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: people being drunk at the airport. Why do they serve

610
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 2: alcohol at the airport? Why do this? I acknowledge, I'm

611
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: not sure why they do it or if they should

612
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: do it, But here's the reality. I think of the

613
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: last twenty flights I was on, I didn't notice a

614
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: particular person causing any incident instant instant incident because they

615
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: were drunk. And I can't think of the last time

616
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 2: that it was boarding a plane where somebody was being

617
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: on drunk. And I just think that when it happened,

618
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: there's billions of flights. When it happened, somebody gets the

619
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: YouTube video and slaps it up there. So I think

620
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of the people who have a drink

621
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: or two at the airport bar on the plane are

622
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: perfectly fine with it. So that isn't a reason to

623
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: stop it. But the ex are nerves. And I have

624
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: another theory though, and it's the one that you came

625
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: up with, like ten or fifteen years and this I

626
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: think most cases it's because they got something else in

627
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: their system and the alcohol is mixing badly with it.

628
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: I'm I mean, I occasionally have to take painkillers, and

629
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: I can tell you right now I do not just

630
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: drinking with those is not a good thing. It just enhances.

631
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: And then you add these people that are taking ninety

632
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: zillion anti anxiety meds and they're mixing this out of

633
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: the yeah, and all of that, because I just it

634
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: just seems in general the wrong way drivers. The drunks

635
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: are weirder than the drunks that I've been used to

636
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: my entire life. And I think it's because there's things

637
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: other than alcohol mixing in with the alcohol. Yeah, the

638
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: gummies in all of that. I mean, yeah, you're right

639
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: about You're right. You're right about that too. Right. There's

640
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Speaker 2: a big story on JS online today by Paul Smith,

641
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Speaker 2: the outdoor writer. The Wisconsin deer population is growing, and

642
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: the concern is this. I think I raised this like

643
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: five years ago. Every year the number of deer licenses

644
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: goes down, but just a little. But the trend, it's

645
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 2: like the baby decline. The long term trend is fewer

646
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: and fewer and fewer deer hunters, and the result is

647
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 2: that the deer herd is becoming now a according to

648
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: Smith's report, dangerously overpopulated. There's another part of the problem though.

649
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,479
Speaker 2: Here in southeastern Wisconsin where we are, I see deer

650
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: all the time, and they're always in places where you

651
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: can't hunt. Like the deer rut's about to begin or

652
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: is beginning. It usually begins right around deer hunting Cason Room.

653
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: What's going on right now? Well, they start coming out

654
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: of the woods and wandering around and doing all of

655
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 2: this stuff. Well, I mean, you can't kill a deer

656
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: in our backyard at the radio station, but the zazillion

657
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: of them out here, So I think that's part of it. Secondly,

658
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: it's very hard in many instances to be able to

659
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: hunt on private land. Well, private land is still most

660
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: of the land in northern and central Wisconsin, and more

661
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: and more and more property owners are banning hunters from

662
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: going on there. So you end up with the deer

663
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 2: and all of these safe zones, and the hunters that

664
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 2: are hunting, they're all congregated into the areas where they're

665
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: allowed to hunt, and they all come back and complain.

666
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: I didn't see any deer. The overall deer numbers are

667
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: higher than ever. I mean, I'm guessing that one of

668
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: the solutions would be to just eliminate all bag limits

669
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Speaker 2: in certain areas that you can kill as many deer

670
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Speaker 2: as you want and expan the season or something or another.

671
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: But they're suggesting it's a significant problem that the primary

672
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: predator for deer is in fact man, and if man

673
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 2: doesn't kill enough deer, you can create a significant problem

674
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Speaker 2: with not only deer heard running a month, but deer's

675
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: starving right and left because there's not enough of a

676
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: food infrastructure to sustain all of them. Paul said he

677
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: saw a dead dear on the free well that's right

678
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 2: around now, in the well. But there's wooded areas near there.

679
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: They come out of that, And I mean part of

680
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: it is though, when they're in an urban or suburban area,

681
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: there's no predator, I mean, and the coyotes. People will

682
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: get rid of them that are out there. And coyotes

683
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: can take fawns. I think, I don't think they can

684
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: take a full size deer, do you They can? Wolvescan,

685
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 2: but there's no wolves here. The wolves are all up north,

686
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: all right. There's that and the semi finals in the

687
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: state high school football playoffs of this weekend. We're gonna

688
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: do our big football preview at a moment, but I'm

689
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: gonna do a short term high school football preview right now.

690
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: Paul knows all about Grafton. You're going to all there.

691
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: You used to look down your nose. You're a front runner.

692
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: You're like these people who go to Bucks games to

693
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 2: watch the app. They didn't couldn't care less about Oklahoma City,

694
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: but now that they're good, they'll follow them. Or they

695
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: became Warriors fans when uh Steph Curry and all of

696
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 2: those guys came in. So you live in Cedarburg, but

697
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,479
Speaker 2: Grafton as a winning team, and suddenly you're going over there. Yeah,

698
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: after forever and after what ever, suggesting that Grafton is

699
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 2: the scum of the earth and Cedarbury is the If

700
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: I'm the Grafton people, I'm telling you to get out

701
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: of there. Oh, they love you now. They are not

702
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: aware of all the crafting all over them that you've

703
00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: been doing on this program. Division one, by the way,

704
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: this weekend, they start playing neutral fields next weekend. The

705
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: games are in Madison at Camp Randle. Division one Wannakee.

706
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 2: They're in this every year. You know why they're in

707
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 2: it every year. It's a huge suburban area north of Madison.

708
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: Those are the kind of places that produce football players.

709
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: Wanache plays Arrowhead. Wanakee's twelve and Arrowhead's eleven and one. Arrowhead,

710
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: I know, is very good. I don't know an name

711
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: of Wuanakee other than they're in it every year. They

712
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 2: have to go to Madison. Moroyal very close to Wannakee

713
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: for that. Bayport plays Muskego. Do you know where Bayport is?

714
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: Bayport is the west suburbs of Green Bay, like Swamako

715
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: in that area if you go like west of the city,

716
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: like very rather high end houses and so on. And

717
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: it's one of those regional districts of several municipalities. It's

718
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: kind of like an Arrowhead kind of district. That's Division one.

719
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: Of the biggest school's Division two, Green Bay. Notre Dame.

720
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: That's a very big Catholic school. It's the only one

721
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 2: in Brown County. I don't think there's one in Door County.

722
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: The closest other Catholic school. I think there's one in

723
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: Manadawack and one in Appleton, So that's it draws from

724
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: a regional area there, Greenmay Notre Dame. They play river Falls. Weirdly,

725
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: river Falls is great in college football this year and

726
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: in high school football. I don't ever recall river Falls

727
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: being good in anything. They play in Schoolfield and then

728
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: the other Division two game, West of Pier plays Homestead.

729
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: A friend of mine has like a nephew or something

730
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 2: that's the star running back at Homestead, and he tells

731
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: me the kids phenomenal. All right. Now, West of Pier

732
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: is another fascinating story. What city do you think? West

733
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: de Pier is in to Peer but there's also de

734
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Speaker 2: Peer high school. This is the weirdest thing. There's a

735
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: West to Pier school district into Peer and a de

736
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Speaker 2: Peer school district into Peer. Unusual, I mean there's separate

737
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: school districts. West of Pier has its own high school district,

738
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: but it's in the city of the Pier. And then

739
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: there's the Peer. When I was a kid, I remember

740
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: my grandmother's grandmother always saying East to Pier. There is

741
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: no East to Pier. But she said that because you

742
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 2: had to differentiate it from West to Pier. So this

743
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: is west a Pier and another weird thing about this

744
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: to Pier often has a good high school team. So

745
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: that's Division two, Division three. Catholic Memorial of Waukeshaw, a

746
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: powerhouse a Division three is playing graft and Paul mentioned

747
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: they're twelve and zero and in the other one. This

748
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: is where the story gets interesting. Ridsburg at nine and

749
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: three plays Whitefish Bay six and six. Six and six.

750
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: That means they've won three games in the playoffs. So

751
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: they got in. I guess at three and six. What

752
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: did you say? Paul says, whoever wins that first game

753
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: will crush the other team. You may be right about that. Anyway,

754
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: they're saying Whitefish Bay is a Cinderella team. I need

755
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: explain something on this Whitefish Bay. The divisions are based

756
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: on your enrollment, but Whitefish Whitefish Bay is in a

757
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 2: conference of Division two and one schools. In other words,

758
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 2: they're any The reason they had a poor record is

759
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 2: they're playing larger schools, but now by enrollment they drop

760
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: into Division three. Same thing with Catholic Memorial. It's Division

761
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: three because of the size, but it plays schools of

762
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: Division one type size and you'll see often and that's

763
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 2: one of them. There's just too many divisions and you

764
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: end up often the Division two team is better than

765
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: the Division one. And so when I won't go into

766
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: the other levels, which I try to diminish all the

767
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 2: people that are involved in the others, but the high

768
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: school football semifinals and it should be pretty good football

769
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: weather this weekend and then they all play Thursday and

770
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: Friday of next week at Camp Brandon and Madison for

771
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: the finale. This is the Mark Belling Podcast. This is

772
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 2: the Mark Belling Podcast, and it's time for our weekly

773
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: football preview and some point spread picks. As we are

774
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: every week. I'm joined by Mike Murlett of Americans Sports

775
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: Analysts and Madison. Their website is ASA wins dot com.

776
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: We're going to get into football in just a moment here,

777
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: and I found the last several weeks of football, and

778
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: the NFL in particular, to be almost impossible to figure out.

779
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: We have, for example, a team like the Cincinnati Bengals,

780
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: which in the first few games had as bad an

781
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: offense as you can imagine, and now might have the

782
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: best offense in the National Football League. Part of it

783
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 2: is they got a quarterback, Joe Flacco, but that quarterback

784
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: spent the first portion of the season with Cleveland and

785
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: they couldn't move the ball at all. Then there are

786
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: other teams like the Green Bay Packers which seem schizoid.

787
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: You have the Dallas Cowboys that had an unstoppable offense

788
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: and now it doesn't appear to have much offense at all.

789
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 2: It is very hard to figure anything out. So we'll

790
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: pick Mike spray on some of those things. But before

791
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 2: we get into any of that, is there anything you'd

792
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: like to share about anything that ASA is going to

793
00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: be doing this weekend?

794
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 4: Mike, Yeah, after a couple not so good weekends heading

795
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 4: into last weekend, we had a good weekend last weekend

796
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 4: when both top games and won in college won the pros.

797
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 4: So back on track and we may have a bigger

798
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 4: type college game this weekend. We'll know more on Friday,

799
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 4: so you can check the website on Friday for that situation.

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00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: Okay, that's ASA wins dot Com. We're going to start

801
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 2: a discussion with college football, and rather than preview any

802
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 2: national games, I want to spend the time that we

803
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: have here talking about the situation with Wisconsin, which finally

804
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: got its win, its breakthrough win and probably the biggest

805
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: win of Luke Fickles's career. They beat a ranked opponent

806
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: for the first time in several years when they beat

807
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,479
Speaker 2: Washington with another outstanding defensive performance. That game was played

808
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: under the backdrop of the athletic department at UW Madison

809
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 2: announcing that Fickle is going to be back for next season. Mike,

810
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 2: it struck me that I think Wisconsin has built one

811
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: of the best defenses in the country, and they have

812
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 2: some freshmen on defense that are close to among some

813
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 2: of the best defensive players in college football. Right now.

814
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: Two freshmen, in particular, Posa and Catillao are playing off

815
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: the charts. Catialano had nineteen tackles last week, and Mason

816
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: Posa appears as a freshman to be as good as TJ.

817
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: Watt and JJ Watt and some other legendary Wisconsin linebackers

818
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: were in the day that they were there. In the meantime, however,

819
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: the offense remains a train wreck. They only scored a

820
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 2: touchdown because Mason Posa forced to fumble on the five

821
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 2: yard line. They're down to I guess their fourth and

822
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: fifth string quarterbacks right now, maybe you count the third

823
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: of Simmons is still into the fray. So a big

824
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: question here of post Washington analyze, Wisconsin analyze the decision

825
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 2: to keep fickle and give me a take on where

826
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: the team is right now and what its future looks like.

827
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 4: Well, you kind of hit it on the head. I

828
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 4: think defensively, they've got a strong base right now. They've

829
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 4: got a lot of their best defensive players are young

830
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 4: now in the defensive line. There hasn't been enough talk

831
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 4: about the defensive line. I mean, they stunk stopping the

832
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 4: run last year and they're one of the best rush

833
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 4: defenses in the country this year. They brought in a

834
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 4: bunch of transfers. They're going to have to do that

835
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: again this year. And if they do, and their defense

836
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 4: is going to be really good again next year. If

837
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 4: they keep everyone offensively, they got to figure it out.

838
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 4: It it's more than just a quarterback. But let's face it,

839
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 4: mark when you're when you're a new offensive coordinator for Wisconsin,

840
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 4: Grimes has had success in the past and everyone was fourth.

841
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: He was did a great job at Baylor when that

842
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: program turned around. Baylor had a good defense. He got

843
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: there and gave them an offense. He did a very

844
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 2: very good job at Kansas. He's got a track record

845
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: pretty much everywhere, so I don't think people can argue

846
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: that Grimes is a bad offensive coordinator. However, the offense

847
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 2: at Wisconsin he's coordinated this year has been a tro.

848
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 4: Well what are you going to do with it? I mean,

849
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 4: you're down to your fourth or fifth string quarterback, a

850
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 4: freshman last week, who they threw for a forty eight

851
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 4: yard last week, and half of them came from the punter.

852
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's hilarious when a guy who wears number

853
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: ninety one is your leading pass already throws throws only

854
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: the one pass. I am of the opinion that Wisconsin

855
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: is making the right decision in not firing Fickle. I

856
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 2: believe that he is building one of the best defenses

857
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 2: in the country. Obviously, the offense is a problem. He

858
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: made a disastrous decision with his decision to go with

859
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 2: an air raid offense when he came into the program

860
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: and hired a terrible offensive coordinator in retrospect, and it

861
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 2: set the offense back obviously the entirety of the time

862
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: that he's been there. But I think, unless Fickle's crazy,

863
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: he has figured that part of it out, and now

864
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 2: you need to build enough talent to make the offense work.

865
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: Can they do that and can they have a better

866
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: offense by next year? Because I think if they do

867
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: and they avoid players transferring out on defense, I think

868
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 2: they have every reason to be a top thirty team

869
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: in the country next year. I always believe it's harder

870
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: to fix a defense than fix an offense. That you

871
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 2: can fix an offense through transfers and a couple of

872
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 2: talented receivers, decent offensive line, they're fixing a defense. I've

873
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: seen programs take years and years and years to do that.

874
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: So I think they're making the right decision. And I

875
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: think fans that are screaming fire Fickle simply are blinded

876
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: to the progress on defense, and also are blinded to

877
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: the fact that there are so many teams looking for

878
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: college football coaches. I have a hard time thinking Wisconsin's

879
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 2: going to find anything other than a downgrade to Fickle.

880
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 2: Your reaction to.

881
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 4: All of them, Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. I agree

882
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 4: at this point, it's best to keep them on board. Again,

883
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 4: you said he's got the defensive in the right direction.

884
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 4: That's one hundred percent right. Next year, they'll have to

885
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 4: bring in a probably a portal quarterback and let Smith

886
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 4: wait one more year unless he lights it up the

887
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 4: next few weeks, which I don't think is going to happen.

888
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 2: If you get a good court, nobody's gonna light it

889
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 2: up with that offensive line right now.

890
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,479
Speaker 4: No, but the offensive line's playing better so the fer games.

891
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 4: They had six six different combinations in the first six

892
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 4: games because of injury and such, and now the last.

893
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 4: This will be the third game where they've had the

894
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 4: same offensive line. They've got some young, young starters that

895
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 4: are playing better. I think they've got a good base there.

896
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 4: They just need a quarterback that's good that stays healthy.

897
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 4: Next year, their schedule is much weaker. I think they

898
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 4: have a chance to be five hundred or better next

899
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 4: year if they get a quarterback and stay healthy. I

900
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 4: think the offensive line is going to be much better,

901
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 4: and they've gut good, decent running backs and decent running

902
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 4: backs coming in. I think they'll be okay.

903
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 2: Having said all of that, this Saturday they have to

904
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: play Indiana. I don't see how this is anything other

905
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: than a whipeout. Indiana is incredible. They probably should have

906
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 2: lost last week. They didn't because a guy made maybe

907
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: the best catch of the year in college football. But

908
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: they're very very good on both sides of the ball.

909
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: So Wisconsin, which has its win, I just think has

910
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 2: to try to avoid getting killed on Saturday, because the

911
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: two games after that give them chances for a couple

912
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 2: of more wins to close out the season. Your thoughts

913
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: going into the game that I believe Indiana's favored with

914
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: twenty eight and a half or twenty nine points if

915
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: anything that strikes me as low. Indiana's offense is really

916
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: really good and their defense is really good, and you

917
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: don't need a great defense to stop Wisconsin's offense. Your

918
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 2: thoughts on Wisconsin going over to Indiana. It's just really hard,

919
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: but I guess this has happened now, it's been building

920
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: for four or five years. It's just really hard to

921
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 2: think of Indiana as just a football juggernaut. But they are.

922
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're top ten. You talk about their offenses top

923
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 4: their defense is top ten. I mean, they're really good

924
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 4: on both sides of the ball. And I agree with you.

925
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 4: I don't know how Wisconsin stays is you know, the

926
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks they held Oregon down and kind

927
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 4: of some great weather last week they held Washington down.

928
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 4: Now they're going in. Indiana scored Since Signetti took over,

929
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 4: They've scored thirty points in seventeen of their twenty three games.

930
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 4: If they score thurs Gonson his theay close in this

931
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 4: game because Indiana's defense is really good. If they can,

932
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 4: if Indiana can key on the run mark if Wisconsin

933
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 4: can't pass, Indiana gives up eighty three yards per game

934
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 4: rushing their eighth in the country. Wisconsin's got to find

935
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 4: a way to pass. I just don't see how they

936
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 4: stay in this game. Indiana's won all their Big Ten

937
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 4: home games this year by at least twenty five points.

938
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 4: They've won two of them by fifty or more against

939
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 4: Michigan State, excuse me, against UCLA and Illinois. This is

940
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 4: probably going to be.

941
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 2: A well I think the I am an opponent of

942
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: the twelve team playoff in part because I think it

943
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 2: waters down the conference championship games, and both Ohio State

944
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: and Indiana are going to be in the twelve team championship.

945
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 2: But I do presuming both say I'd beaten. I just

946
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: think that could be an incredible game the national the

947
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: Big Ten championship game between Ohio State and Indiana. But

948
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 2: off the top of my head, are they playing that game?

949
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 2: In Indianapolis again or is it elsewhere? Do you know

950
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: where the Big Ten Championship is?

951
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's in Indianapolis. And there's already

952
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 4: a pre line on that game of Ohio State minus

953
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 4: three and a half or four if it was played today.

954
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's close to Indiana's campus. They split up

955
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: the tickets and all of that, but boy, that would

956
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: be the marquee game I think of any of the

957
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: conference championships. Let's sort of turn our attention over to

958
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: the NFL. My comment on the Packers is they've become

959
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: the Badgers. The Packers defense is outstanding, but they don't

960
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 2: seem to have an offense at all. I mean, when

961
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: you I watched the Badger Washington game on Saturday, then

962
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: I watched on Monday the Green Bay Philadelphia game. I

963
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: started was watching the same game. What's going on with

964
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: the Packers?

965
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's They're one of the hardest teams to figure

966
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 4: out in the NFL in my opinion. They've scored points

967
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 4: total at home in their last two games. Prior to that,

968
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 4: they were averaging thirty two points the game in their

969
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 4: previous four games. They're so up and down. Last week's game,

970
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 4: you watched it. I mean they tried to run the

971
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 4: ball on second long and they were you know, they

972
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 4: had thirty six pass attempts, but eighteen of them came

973
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 4: in the last nine minutes when they were down by

974
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 4: ten points. At that point, he decided to start throwing.

975
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 4: I don't know what to think of the Packers. The

976
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 4: Packer defense is really good. Here's the problem, mark that

977
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 4: I see. They run the ball the tenth their tenth

978
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 4: and run play percenters. So run the ball a lot,

979
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 4: which is fine, twenty third pass play per centers. The

980
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 4: problem is their offensive line isn't great pass blocking or

981
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 4: run blocking. In fact, Green Bay running backs are averaging

982
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 4: point eight four yards before contact. That's the third worst

983
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 4: in the NFL. So they're trying to run the ball.

984
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 4: They're not a great run blocking team. There are really

985
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 4: hard teams to project right now, and I think this

986
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 4: is a dangerous game against the Giants.

987
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about the Packers playing the Giants in

988
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: New York. Giants have just fired their coach, Brian Day

989
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 2: Ball and again and again and again. Both pro and

990
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 2: college teams that fire their coaches often come the following

991
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 2: week with a huge performance. I still haven't figured out

992
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 2: exactly why it is, but yeah, I mean either if

993
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 2: the Giants do come out with an improved performance post

994
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: at day ball only seven points, could they beat Green Bay?

995
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 4: I think they could. Hey, you don't forget Jamis Winston's

996
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 4: starting a quarterback, so and I don't think that's a

997
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 4: great thing for green Bay. He's throwing for twenty five

998
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 4: thousand yards. The players love Jamis Winston. He rallies guys,

999
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 4: and in that first game with the coach gone and

1000
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 4: him starting, I don't love this spot for green Bay.

1001
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 4: They're favored by seven. Let's face it, the Giants have

1002
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 4: been fairly competitive. They beat the Eagles at home. They

1003
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 4: lost at Denver by one point. They blew a nineteen

1004
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 4: point fourth quarter lead. They blew a ten point late

1005
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 4: lead in Chicago. Giants could be four and six or

1006
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 4: five and five right now. I think this is a

1007
00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 4: really dangerous game for green Bay.

1008
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: The other game that I want to talk about this

1009
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: weekend in the NFL let's preview the Seahawks and the Rams.

1010
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: The NFC West is very strong. These teams seem to

1011
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: me to be identical. They're both seven and two, they're

1012
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: both very good. The Rams are favored by three, and

1013
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: I think that's largely a function of the game being

1014
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 2: at Los Angele's. My guess is that if it was

1015
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: in Seattle, that the Seahawks would be favored. Your thoughts

1016
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: on the Rams.

1017
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 4: And the Seahawks, Yeah, we have these teams powerted dead even,

1018
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 4: which is why you hit it right on the head.

1019
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 4: Rams are favored by three at home. If it was slip,

1020
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 4: Seahawks be faired by three. I mean, I think the

1021
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 4: right now, these are the two best teams in the NFC.

1022
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 4: I'm not an Eagle fan, don't. I don't think the

1023
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 4: Eagles are as good as people think they are. Right now.

1024
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 4: These two teams are both seven and two straight up,

1025
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 4: seven and two against the spread. They've both won four

1026
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 4: games in a row. They are the top two point

1027
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 4: differentials in the NFC, the top two yards for play

1028
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 4: differentials in the NFC. Seattle's led for sixty two percent

1029
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 4: of their offensive snaps. That's number one. Rams are second

1030
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 4: in that category. The one thing that's interesting in this game.

1031
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 4: We're not going to use this game either way because

1032
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 4: I think the line's dead on. People probably don't realize

1033
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 4: Seattle's got a good home field advantage. But they've won

1034
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 4: ten straight road games going back to last year, not

1035
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 4: against the spread, just straight. They're ten and oh their

1036
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 4: last ten road games. This is gonna be a fantastic game.

1037
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 4: We're going to stay away from it. But I think

1038
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 4: these two teams are really good right now. And for playoffs,

1039
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 4: you know, one of these teams are going to win

1040
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 4: the division probably and the other one's going to be

1041
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 4: in the wildcard. Right now, RAMS would be in the

1042
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 4: wildcard and seatle be the number two seed.

1043
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 2: This game, that's game there. It's so important because head, yeah,

1044
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 2: you're the head to head is the first tiebreaker, and

1045
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: this is obviously a head to have game. It really

1046
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: moves the standings by two and a half games. It's

1047
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 2: a huge game out there in the West. Time to

1048
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: get some point spread picks. And I was the only

1049
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: loser last week, but as Mike pointed out to be,

1050
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 2: I have an excuse. I had played a big favorite

1051
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 2: that actually lost outright, but it was such an anomaly

1052
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: of a game. I took Oregon State over Sam Houston State.

1053
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: Sam Houston got its first win. Oregon State outgained them

1054
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 2: by three hundred and seventeen yards. And they had twenty

1055
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 2: more first downs, and as you said, it's almost impossible

1056
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: to win when you're out gained by that much. So

1057
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have covered the whole

1058
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: twenty and a half after that, but I think my

1059
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: pick is not as stupid as it turns out to be.

1060
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 2: There were just a lot of turnovers and weirdo things

1061
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 2: that screwed up Oregon State in that game. Paul was

1062
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: the beneficiary of a very good line. The line on

1063
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: the Bears Giants game at the time that we did

1064
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: our contest was three and a half. It went up

1065
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: to four and a half, and I thought the Bears

1066
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: would war. They won by four, So people who bet

1067
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: on game day probably lost. But Paul got a win

1068
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: on that pick, which he really needed. Mike, who started

1069
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 2: really slowly here is knocking off winners right and left.

1070
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: He was right. This is a game weight preview. Texas

1071
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 2: Tech was favored by tanover unbeaten BYU, and they crushed him.

1072
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 2: They beat them twenty nine to seven. If you were winners,

1073
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 2: I was a loser omain in first place in this

1074
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: but I've lost three picks in a row, and as

1075
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: I say, football is borderline mystifying me. My favorite NFL

1076
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: game was the Bears at the three and a half,

1077
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 2: but then when it got to the four and a half,

1078
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 2: not so much. So. I would have been right on

1079
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: Friday on the time that I had that and almost

1080
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 2: took that game that Paul took. All right, let's get

1081
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: started on this weekend. We're gonna start with a pick

1082
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 2: from Paul. Paul, you go first, the forty nine Ers

1083
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: at the Cardinals. That's the other game in the NFC West.

1084
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 2: I think NFC West NFC North might be the two strongest.

1085
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: The West might be the strongest division of the in

1086
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 2: football right now, wouldn't you say maybe the AFC West. Yeah,

1087
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers and Cardinals two teams that are also

1088
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 2: I think pretty close. This game is in Arizona, but

1089
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers on the road are favored by three.

1090
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: The forty nine ers always seem to be banged up.

1091
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 2: Arizona's banged up. I guess everybody's banged up in the NFL.

1092
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 2: Forty nine ers on the road are favored by three.

1093
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 2: You're gonna take the forty nine ers on the road,

1094
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 2: paulis is the forty nine The Niners are kind of

1095
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: a mess at the quarterback situation, they seem to be Yes,

1096
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: forty nine ers are more of a complete team. He thinks, Well,

1097
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the Rams Seahawks game is as

1098
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 2: Mike said, I think that point spread is exactly correct.

1099
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 2: It's exactly yeah, it's a three. It's exactly correct. And

1100
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 2: if you ask me how the game would turn out,

1101
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 2: I would say the Rams are gonna win by three

1102
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 2: by three. So you say you're taking another three point game.

1103
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 2: It's the other game in the same division, Pulse is

1104
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers of the Cardinals. I have no

1105
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 2: opinion in that game. Do you have an opinion, Mike.

1106
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 4: I'm the same. I can't get a good feel for

1107
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 4: San Francisco, to be honest with you. They got so

1108
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 4: many injuries, and some weeks they look good, in other

1109
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 4: weeks they don't. They get crushed against La last week,

1110
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 4: but they did beat Arizona at home earlier this year.

1111
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,919
Speaker 4: But as a one point as sixteen to fifteen, who's

1112
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 4: the final score, Arizona looks better offensively, they're set a quarterback.

1113
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 4: I think that's a really difficult game. I don't like

1114
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 4: that game at all.

1115
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 2: Okay, let's find out about a game that Mike does, like,

1116
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 2: where are we going.

1117
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 4: Let's look at college first year and I'll see what

1118
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 4: you give me on the in the Big ten. I'm

1119
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 4: going to go to Penn State at Michigan State game.

1120
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 4: It's three forty seven eight.

1121
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought a lot about that game. Penn State

1122
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: on the road is favored by seven and a half points.

1123
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 4: I'm going to take Michigan State there.

1124
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you on that. I thought about

1125
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 2: using that game myself. Michigan State's not very good, but

1126
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,479
Speaker 2: they seem to be getting a little better. But boy,

1127
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 2: this has got to be a letdown for Penn State.

1128
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 2: They almost beat Indiana and now they have to go

1129
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 2: on their own to Michigan State. It strikes me that

1130
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 2: they could be really really flat here. And yes, thing,

1131
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 2: that's what your rationale is.

1132
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a play against Penn State, and I

1133
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 4: like for the spot for Michigan State as well. I mean,

1134
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 4: Michigan State, you got coming off of bye. Their last

1135
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 4: game was at Minnesota. They lost that game. They switched

1136
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 4: quarterbacks in that game. If you didn't pay attention, he

1137
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 4: threw for well over three hundred guard. They had four

1138
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty yards against Minnesota, who's a really good

1139
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 4: defense creamed Minnesota in the stats. That's the second most

1140
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 4: yards this year on Minnesota besides Ohio State. So their

1141
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 4: quarterback situations figured out. They're coming off of by Not

1142
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 4: only did Penn State lose the way they lost last week,

1143
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 4: if you watched the end of that game, how the

1144
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 4: how Indiana scored right at the end of the game

1145
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 4: with kind of a toe tap in the end zone

1146
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 4: to tap.

1147
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 2: When he caught the ball with like one hand and

1148
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 2: got the two feet down and fall.

1149
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 4: So they put everything into that game. They played Ohio

1150
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 4: State the week before, so they're coming off Ohio State

1151
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,959
Speaker 4: in Indiana, the two top teams in the Big Ten.

1152
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 4: Now going on the road. You got Penn State team

1153
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 4: who was thinking about the playoffs. They don't care about

1154
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 4: bulls at this point. This is a perfect leftdown spot.

1155
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if Michigan State wins this game

1156
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 4: out right, So I'll take seven.

1157
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 2: And a half. Yeah, I feel like switching my pick

1158
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 2: and taking that game is one that I agree with

1159
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 2: Mike's pick on that. The only thing, and I say only,

1160
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 2: I mean there's ninety factors. The only thing I just wonder.

1161
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 2: Penn State was thought to be a really good team

1162
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 2: this year and they just fell apart in the middle

1163
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 2: of the season. They fired Franklin. Maybe they're getting it

1164
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 2: back together, and maybe they keep the momentum that they

1165
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 2: showed by almost winning last week. But that's a lot

1166
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 2: of maybe's. But I think all the other situational factors,

1167
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 2: including the quarterbacks switch at Michigan State, would point to them.

1168
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 2: Now for a pick for me, there's a couple of

1169
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 2: games that I sort of like, but the line is

1170
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,959
Speaker 2: not exactly right, and I'm just falling to one game

1171
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 2: here that has I think college football the two best

1172
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: quarterbacks that nobody's ever heard of. It's the game between

1173
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 2: South Florida and Navy. This game is in the American Conference,

1174
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 2: where you're talking about, conference is wide open. I think

1175
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 2: there's five or six there's five or six teams that

1176
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 2: are either five and one or four in one. Somebody's

1177
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 2: gonna win that league. It's one of those conferences in

1178
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 2: which half the teams are good and the other half

1179
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 2: are terrible. And this is both both of these teams

1180
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 2: have one loss in the conference. It's Navy at South Florida.

1181
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 2: South Florida has a spectacular quarterback and he's got a

1182
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 2: tremendous ratio and he's putting up a tremendous number of yards.

1183
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 2: But the Navy quarterback who's primarily a runner, Horrorvath, he's outstanding. Also.

1184
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 2: He can also throw the ball a little. He's banged

1185
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: up and they list him as questionable, but I think

1186
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 2: he's going to play. I'm going to lay the points

1187
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 2: and lay the ten with South Florida, which I think

1188
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 2: has one of the best offenses in America. Their coach,

1189
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 2: Alex Golich, he's probably going to all these openings that

1190
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 2: are out there this year. One of these schools with

1191
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 2: an opening is going to hire and snap him up.

1192
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 2: The two defenses, I think are about even. They're both

1193
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 2: pretty good. The two offenses are very good, but I

1194
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 2: think South Florida is borderline elite team. The couple of

1195
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 2: losses that they've had this season were the in state

1196
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 2: games where they lost to both of the in state schools.

1197
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 2: I think I have that right. I think that they

1198
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: lost to Miami and did they lose the They.

1199
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 4: Lost that Memphis. They lost that Memphis Memphis.

1200
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: That's what that's what it is. Memphis, which is in

1201
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 2: their conference. Otherwise, I think they're a very very good team. Navy.

1202
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 2: Here's a state a stat on Navy. Navy started the

1203
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 2: season seven and zero. I think it's possible they're going

1204
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 2: to go from winning seven in a row to losing

1205
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: five in a row. Their first seven games, the competition

1206
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,439
Speaker 2: was terrible, and the last five games they have four

1207
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 2: strong games and the end, of course, with a great

1208
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 2: rivalry game with Army, which I think is a team

1209
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 2: that's close to Navy and ability, I think Navy could

1210
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 2: start with by winning their first seven and losing the

1211
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 2: last five. It's a lot of points to lay. But

1212
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 2: I'm really enamored with South Florida and especially their offense.

1213
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 2: And as I say, it's just two really good quarterbacks,

1214
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 2: very different styles. One as primarily pass it, the other runner.

1215
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 2: But because they're kind of lower profile schools, you can

1216
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 2: look at the stat Southwest quarterback and I think he

1217
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 2: should be a Heisen contender. He won't be, but I

1218
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 2: think that he ought to be. Any thoughts in that game.

1219
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 2: I know I'm laying a lot of points here, but

1220
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: I'm struggling. I'm struggling to find anything else to pick.

1221
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 4: I would agree. In that game, South Florida really should

1222
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 4: only have one loss to Miami Florida. They went to

1223
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 4: Memphis lost by three, but they led by fourteen in

1224
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter in that game, and they completely outplayed Memphis.

1225
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 4: So who's a good team?

1226
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 2: Navy?

1227
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 4: As you said, they played the the worst schedule in

1228
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 4: FBS in the first seven games they were. Their schedule

1229
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 4: was horrible, and now they've gotten smoke two games in

1230
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 4: a row, their quarterbacks banged up. I don't disagree with you.

1231
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 4: I think I think Navy was kind of a farce

1232
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 4: at seven and zero, and I think they got problems

1233
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 4: down the road here and South Florida is the much

1234
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 4: better team.

1235
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 2: Okay, Mike agrees with me on this, and I desperately

1236
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 2: need to win. That line has bounced around all week.

1237
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 2: First it was ten and a half, then it moved

1238
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 2: to nine and a half, and I think that's because

1239
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 2: people think the Navy quarterbacks going to play and it's landed.

1240
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 2: We use scores in odds, which is one of the

1241
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 2: many consensus services out there, and the number they popped

1242
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 2: up with today is ten. Had it been ten and

1243
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 2: a half, I would have had to find something else.

1244
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 2: Ten and ahead. So many games land on ten. I

1245
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 2: think that I'm either going to win or push the game. Okay,

1246
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 2: recapping everybody's picks real quickly. Here, Paul takes the forty

1247
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 2: nine Ers to beat the Cardinals by more than three.

1248
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 2: I had both those games in that division. As I say,

1249
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 2: they're both three points, and I think those lines are right.

1250
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 2: What I would make the line too. I think the

1251
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers probably are three points better than the Cardinals,

1252
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 2: Mike says. I like Mike's pick. He says Michigan State

1253
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 2: a seven and a half point underdog over Penn State.

1254
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 2: Michigan State can lose by seven or less at home

1255
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 2: or win the game outright for Mike to win. And

1256
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 2: I need South Florida to beat Navy by more than

1257
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 2: the ten points. Again, if you want to find out

1258
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:15,719
Speaker 2: what's going on with as AASA wins dot com, lots

1259
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,520
Speaker 2: of information up there. They right picks on all the sports,

1260
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 2: so forth and so on. And that's it for this

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