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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. I'm your Host, Tatum

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Speaker 1: Everett and the Purple close out the regular season at

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Speaker 1: home on Sunday, trying to end the year with a

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Speaker 1: winning record is a border Battle finale when the Vikings

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Speaker 1: welcome Green Bay to US Bank Stadium for a noonkick

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Speaker 1: on CBS. We're so excited about the guests that we

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Speaker 1: have on the show. This week, we sit down with

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Speaker 1: Lauren Pinter, who's one of our many talented game presentation

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Speaker 1: staff members. That team is instrumental to our award winning

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Speaker 1: in game experience, and they really outdid themselves with the

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Speaker 1: winner white out on Christmas Day. Lauren will give us

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Speaker 1: all the behind the scenes tea on what went into

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Speaker 1: such a spectacular game day. But first we check in

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Speaker 1: with Good Morning Football host Mantiteo, who was at Sunday's game.

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Speaker 2: He spent a morning at our.

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Speaker 1: TCO studios to host Good Morning Football with Jamie Erdall,

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Speaker 1: and then they were on the broadcast team for the

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Speaker 1: Vikings Lions game. So we asked him all about that,

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Speaker 1: as well as his thoughts on fellow former Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: defensive standout and Vikings current legend Harrison Smith joining us

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Speaker 1: now is a Good Morning Football's co host, Manti Tale Mantai,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. I feel like

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Speaker 1: this place looks all familiar to you though.

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Speaker 3: We miss it. We miss it. We're there obviously. Last

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Speaker 3: week for those of you who don't know, we actually

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Speaker 3: had the opportunity to bless you shooting Good Morning Football

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Speaker 3: from the Vikings facility, and everyone there was just so

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Speaker 3: welcoming and just lovely, and I thought you guys were

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Speaker 3: just tremendous hosts, and so thank you so much, guys,

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Speaker 3: We really appreciate it. We miss you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't your first time in the practice facility either.

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Speaker 1: You said you had visited at Winter Park, which I

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Speaker 1: thought was super interesting.

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Speaker 3: Well, actually it's my first time in that one, the

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Speaker 3: one that I visited coming out in twenty thirteen. I

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Speaker 3: had a little pre draft visit. It wasn't that facility.

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Speaker 3: And let me just say, that's more than just a facility.

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Speaker 3: That's like a resort over there. It's I got lost,

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Speaker 3: I mean, thank goodness, I had some help to get

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Speaker 3: to the studio, but it's it's definitely a work of art.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of work of art, how about the Vikings Defensive

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Speaker 1: performance against the Lions. What stood out to you.

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Speaker 3: The most, Well, what stood out to me the most

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Speaker 3: has been what stood out to me, you know, since

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Speaker 3: Brian Flores has been a defensive coordinator. I love and

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Speaker 3: I don't just say that because I'm on this show,

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Speaker 3: but I love watching the defense. I think it's pure

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Speaker 3: art is as when it comes to just the tech,

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Speaker 3: the technician of the defense, just being able to disguise.

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Speaker 3: I am. I was blessed to be in a defense

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Speaker 3: My first four years were disguising. Was was huge in

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Speaker 3: his players, especially guys like Harrison Smith. He gives them

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Speaker 3: I know, Jamie Earla, I had a blast watching her

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Speaker 3: as I like to admit that it's it was. It was.

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Speaker 3: It was a it was a performance that I think

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Speaker 1: Well, let me pick your brain then, because I want

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Speaker 1: to you know, everyone talks about how difficult it is

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Speaker 1: as like from your perspective, when does it click and

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Speaker 3: Well, it takes very very smart players, it takes a

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Speaker 3: very very good coach, and so there's layers to it. Right.

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Speaker 3: Number One, I have to know my job as as

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Speaker 3: one eleven on the team. I have to know my

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Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is, if I'm not

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Speaker 3: Now when you have a defense like Brian Flores's defense

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it looked like that was exactly what the

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Speaker 1: commit six turnovers, and of course one of those was

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Speaker 1: a beautiful interception by your guy, Harrison Smith, former Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame guys, and a chance for you guys to kind

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Speaker 1: But of course, I mean it felt like Harrison was

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Speaker 1: What did you see from your guy, Well, I saw.

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Speaker 3: A guy who was just relishing in a moment, a

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Speaker 3: He was a coach out there. He wasn't just a safety,

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Speaker 3: just seeing him point and direct guys presnt paid let's

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Speaker 3: of scrimmage. It was nice to watching. I cheered on.

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Speaker 3: I cheered him on during the game. I actually mentioned

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Speaker 3: him in our in our podcast that you know, if

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Speaker 3: a lot of it was going to be dictated by Harrison,

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Speaker 1: What made you feel that way so strongling.

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Speaker 3: Well, when you have the defense that Brian Flores has.

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Speaker 3: And so I wasn't only just talking about Harrison's ability

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Speaker 3: so for this whole thing to work the way that

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Speaker 3: what happens on Christmas Day when all of that stuff

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Speaker 1: A lot of Vikings fans are already rilling the cries

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Speaker 1: for a gold jacket for him. What would what would

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. I was hoping that we had

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Speaker 3: he'll make he'll make it to Canton. But whether he

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, thanks for sharing that. That's really really cool.

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Speaker 1: One more question for you before I let you get going,

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Speaker 1: because uh, you know, here here in Minnesota, we do

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Speaker 3: Just together everybody. For those people who didn't see the set,

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Speaker 3: And so what we were originally gonna do is while

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Speaker 3: skull chance and the Galla horn is going, I looked

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Speaker 3: at Jamie. I was like, Jamie, screw it, Like we're

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Speaker 3: from our seats. And what a treat it was. It

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Speaker 3: says a lot about the Minnesota Vikings fan base for

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Speaker 3: them to to to show up for their team like that,

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Speaker 3: a game where you know you're not going to the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: we hope we have it next year. But yet the

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Speaker 4: Welcome in to another episode of the Tailgate brought to

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Speaker 4: you by ticket Master. It's me your host Cy Aminsen

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Speaker 4: taking you through the final week of the NFL season

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Speaker 4: for your Minnesota Vikings. Now, normally this is a two

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Speaker 2: The final episode of the season will be a solo one.

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Speaker 3: It's just me.

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Speaker 4: It's Will Jase here. I shouldn't say it's solo. Producer

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Speaker 4: Packer week. For the final week, people are it's kind

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Speaker 4: And you have the people who are thrilled, they needed

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Speaker 4: That as the springboard into what has been the Lions run. Now,

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Speaker 4: But it's not like this is gonna be a new

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Speaker 4: Let's worry about next year, but let's carry that momentum

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Speaker 5: But ultimately it's the same thing like we were just

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Speaker 4: Let me do the other one the other, you know,

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Speaker 4: the league, because that's what he looks like. It's not

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Speaker 4: a small sample size anymore. It's two seasons.

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Speaker 5: He's one hundred percent of difference. Maanker, I remember coming

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Speaker 5: out of Miami, everyone's like, this guy just flashes whenever

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Speaker 5: he gets into games. And I think you talked about

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Speaker 5: the fact that he had the multiple pick sixes last

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Speaker 5: season that really put him on the map for us,

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Speaker 5: But then you just you see him out there making

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Speaker 5: those similar kind of plays, just game in and game out.

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Speaker 5: About the fact that, you know, being a former quarterback,

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Speaker 5: he kind of understands what they're looking for and what

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Speaker 5: they're trying to do, so he masks it as well

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Speaker 5: as he does. And the guy's been nothing but absolutely

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Speaker 5: a plus for us since he walked in the door.

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Speaker 5: So Fan Ginkle's a guy that you noticed when he

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Speaker 5: wasn't on the field, and when he got back, you

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Speaker 5: started to see different things pop off. You started to

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Speaker 5: see other people around him benefiting from the plays that

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Speaker 5: he was making. And so he's a guy another one.

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Speaker 5: It's just like, that is a guy you can help

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Speaker 5: build around on this defense moving forward.

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Speaker 4: It reminds me with him of the early Patriots team,

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Speaker 4: because when that two thousand, two thousand and one, two

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Speaker 4: three four, when that first run of the Patriots was

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Speaker 4: winning and having success, I remember what the narrative was.

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Speaker 4: It was all these you know, hardened dads across America going, see,

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Speaker 4: that's how you win. No egos, no superstars, just a team.

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Speaker 4: And the truth was, we just didn't realize how many.

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Speaker 4: It took a minute to go, oh, there's a bunch

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Speaker 4: of borderline Hall of famers and Hall of famers on

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Speaker 4: this team.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say.

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Speaker 5: Guys that were yeah weekend and week out that end

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Speaker 5: up becoming Pro Bowlers and then stuck in Canton with

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Speaker 5: bust after bust.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you just didn't recognize it at the time. And

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Speaker 4: I wonder to the Van Ginkle thing, would like, he's

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Speaker 4: a gadget player, he's everywhere. Is this that I wonder

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Speaker 4: if years from now we will look back and go, oh,

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Speaker 4: you mean one of the best players in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: That's maybe I'm.

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Speaker 4: Being a little ridiculous, but I just have such a

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Speaker 4: high level of belief in what that guy is and

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Speaker 4: what his ceiling is, that that's number two for me.

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