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Speaker 2: Queens City Taran. I tried to pull uh you know,

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Speaker 2: Bengals fans right now. We are three hours into the

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Speaker 2: legal tampering period. No activity from the Bengals. We're seeing

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Speaker 2: We're seeing the Ravens making moves. We're seeing the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Openly said last year wasn't good enough. We're all in,

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Speaker 2: We're always all in, always all in first. That's not

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Speaker 2: Teams are making moves. Before free agency open, teams were

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Speaker 2: But they don't do that. They take that off the shelf.

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Speaker 2: Titans three years, sixty three million dollars forty two million guaranteed,

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Speaker 2: if you see still has life on the bubble, what

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Speaker 2: Welcome back Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty The Mowagger Show. I

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Speaker 2: am Chad Brenda filling in today. We will be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: As he gets back home from his five day excursion

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Speaker 8: I just got to Vegas. We've got tons of conference

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Speaker 2: Miami. Let's start there. Winners go first on this show.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with Miami. They moved to thirty one to zero.

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Speaker 2: Are they in regardless as Travis Steele's team done enough

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Speaker 8: It, really is, and just all the things that had

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Speaker 2: And one of the great stories that people don't know

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Speaker 8: And if you know, and if it happens to be

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Speaker 8: and Arizona obviously is a massive statement. It's an easier

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Speaker 8: said than done tasks, but I think it represents a

433
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Speaker 8: great opportunity And if I was a Cincinnati fan, I'd

434
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Speaker 8: be excited to be in the same bracket of Arizona

435
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 8: because that's the kind of win you're going to need

436
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Speaker 8: to change the committee's mind.

437
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Speaker 3: The other thing that's.

438
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Speaker 8: Good about it is I believe it's the first game

439
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 8: of the day on Thursday. If it happens now, and

440
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 8: that will be it's later at night.

441
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: No, So for whatever reason the Big Twelve plays that

442
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: eight nine to one line in the second game.

443
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Speaker 8: Of the day, that's okay. Yeah, I can live with that.

444
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 8: So like three o'clock Eastern, Yeah, I can live with that.

445
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 8: Because what what what happens with the actual committee?

446
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: I love this?

447
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 8: Oh of course, yeah, so they've their first meeting instead

448
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 8: of voting starts on Wednesday. But the most important part

449
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 8: of what they do all the way through Saturday.

450
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Speaker 3: Is getting the bubble right.

451
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 8: And what all you want to hope for if you're

452
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 8: a Cincinnati or any of these bubble teams is that

453
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Speaker 8: they're taking into your results during Championship Week with full credibility.

454
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 8: A lot of years they don't. But if it happens

455
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 8: usually on Thursday, and it's early enough in the day,

456
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 8: history says they should be processing that result and kind

457
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 8: of taking a new look at everything by Friday morning.

458
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 8: So the way that the times like, if that game

459
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 8: was on Friday, I would have a little less hope

460
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 8: for Cincinnati. Now if they can get three wins, I mean,

461
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 8: I think, I mean, that's going to stand.

462
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: Out a lot.

463
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 8: They've already got three great wins. I'd give them their

464
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 8: best win of the year, at least in terms of

465
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Speaker 8: beating a number one seed, and so it'd be tough

466
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Speaker 8: to keep Cincinnati out if they win on Thursday.

467
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Speaker 2: That I've made that point a lot in terms of

468
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: people say conference tournaments don't matter, and my answer is always, well,

469
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: they do. But generally they scrub the bubble by right

470
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: around dinner on Thursday, right like maybe a little bit

471
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: after dinner that they've got to go back and like

472
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: tidy things up. But by the time they go to

473
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Speaker 2: dinner on Thursday, that the teams that are in are selected,

474
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Speaker 2: and then Thursday night into Friday is when the seating

475
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: process starts. So it's a great point if they if

476
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: they can get Arizona by five o'clock on Thursday, it

477
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: does have a chance, and that's when they will be

478
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: talking about the final teams in the tournament. So maybe

479
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: it does have a chance, but the odds aren't great

480
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: on that one. Roco, we know that we.

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Speaker 8: Don't we know, Well, yeah, this happens every year where

482
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 8: I throw a couple of scenarios out there if this happened, uh,

483
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Speaker 8: and very rarely do you see it happen because bubble

484
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 8: teams are bubble.

485
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: Teams for a reason. A lot they typically yeah, we

486
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: saw it.

487
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 8: On Saturday, I think virtually every bubble team lost, and

488
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 8: Stanford wasn't even that close to the bubble, but they

489
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 8: were the one that stood out because they wanted NC State.

490
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 8: And now Stanford's like the most beautiful bell in the

491
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 8: ball just because they actually won a game. And so

492
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 8: it's just how it works. But most of these bubble

493
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 8: teams are playing their themselves out of the tournament, so

494
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 8: it really stands out. Not only if like if Cincinnati

495
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 8: played DYU or Texas Tech on on Thursday, I would

496
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 8: probably discount it more. But when you beat the number

497
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 8: one seed to Arizona team that hasn't really lost to

498
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 8: anybody this year, they've been dominant, that's something that's a

499
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 8: that's a moment in time where the committee has to

500
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 8: stop what they're doing and reevaluate, and that's that's the

501
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 8: kind of game Cincinnati needs.

502
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: I know you're you're a bracket guy, But thoughts on

503
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 2: Wes Miller his future with Cincinnati. Do you feel like

504
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: it hinges on making the tournament or do you think

505
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: this late season surge maybe enough to get him a

506
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: year six? Do you have any read on that.

507
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: Been trending?

508
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I mean I try to get the right

509
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 8: information on this stuff. I help with scheduling all off seasons,

510
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 8: so I just happened to be on a lot of

511
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 8: these calls with athletic directors and coaches and here here

512
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 8: in the gossip, like the real gossip, not the stuff

513
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 8: that's just on the internet.

514
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 3: Uh.

515
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Speaker 8: And you know, I think it's been obviously trending towards

516
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 8: a change for most of the year, but this late

517
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 8: surge has made things interesting. I do think, you know,

518
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 8: based on anything I've heard, I haven't heard a real

519
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 8: update in the last couple of weeks because since I've

520
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 8: played so well, But the last I had heard they

521
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 8: would probably still be prepared to move on if they

522
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 8: missed the tournament. Now again, they between the last time

523
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 8: I heard something and now they could have worked something

524
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 8: out with him, So it really is a guess, but

525
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 8: I would lean towards he's probably still going to be

526
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 8: replaced if.

527
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: They miss Kentucky. What do you think seed wise, for them,

528
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: this has been such a weird it's a weird roster.

529
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: It's been a weird year, Like you feel like they're

530
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 2: not playing well and they win four in a row.

531
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Speaker 2: It's been a roller coaster for Kentucky fans, it has.

532
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, And the interesting thing is, I keep coming back

533
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 8: to the profile and you look at road winds at.

534
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: Tennessee at all.

535
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: It's not bad.

536
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 3: It's amazing.

537
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 8: They're better wins than almost every team they're compared to

538
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 8: in this like five, six, seven range, because I think

539
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 8: at Arkansas, for example, they've been dominated at home. Kentucky

540
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 8: is the only team to go in there and do

541
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 8: that all year long. So it really stands out from

542
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 8: a evaluation standpoint because when you evaluate Arkansas, they just

543
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 8: look like a completely different team at bub Walton versus

544
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 8: the road. And then you come to Kentucky a few

545
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 8: teams later and you're like, oh my gosh, Kentucky got

546
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 8: is the one team that won there. So that stands

547
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 8: out a lot. They beat Saint John's of course earlier

548
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 8: in the year, so they had those three wins at

549
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 8: the top. We've heard the committee during their prep their

550
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 8: bracket preview show a few weeks ago, which is something

551
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 8: you know obviously, somebody like me studies a lot just

552
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 8: get some clues from the actual people deciding. And they

553
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 8: kept talking about top three wins. Well, Kentucky's top three

554
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 8: wins are terrific. I just lifted them, so you know

555
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 8: the other. But Kentucky's got a losing record away from like,

556
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 8: they're not even close to five hundred, so that's not

557
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 8: good for them. Right now. I've got them a seven seed.

558
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 8: I think the lost of Florida combined with Louisville interestingly enough,

559
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 8: I know it's the rival, but they got a big

560
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 8: road when at Miami. You look at the way Saint

561
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 8: Mary's is playing down the street, you look at Wisconsin

562
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 8: winning at Purdue, and you look at YU beating Texas Tech.

563
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 8: Even I think all those teams win the comparison slightly

564
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 8: against Kentucky right now, but it could go Kentucky could

565
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 8: eventually win those comparisons at the ending still be a sixth,

566
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 8: so they'll end up being a six or seven. They're

567
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 8: seven now on my projection.

568
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: How about Louisville. MIKEL. Brown when he's been there has

569
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: been outstanding, but that they've been a little inconsistent as well.

570
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 8: They have they have up until this road win at Miami.

571
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 8: They didn't really have a road win against anybody in

572
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 8: the tournament, so that was a huge deal for their resume.

573
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 8: They of course have struggled a little bit in Quad one,

574
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 8: being under five hundred. Overall, almost all of their challenges,

575
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 8: I think all of their challenges in the top of

576
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 8: their schedule, when they've played top twenty net teams or

577
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 8: top twenty five net teams, they're over They didn't beat

578
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 8: any of them with or without Nicole Brown, right, So

579
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 8: I think Louisville the good thing they have is that

580
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 8: when they beat people, they usually pounce them, and they're

581
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 8: still a top fifteen team because of their margin of

582
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 8: victory throughout the season and the way their style of play.

583
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 8: They're kind of like the Acron of the ACC because

584
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 8: I feel like that's what Acron doesn't. Yeah, but uh yeah,

585
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 8: so they there's a there's a limit to how high

586
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 8: they can go because they don't have the actual resume

587
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 8: wins they need. But they're also sexy from a power

588
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 8: number standpoint, so they keep settling in right as a

589
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 8: safe six. I can't really go lower with them, and

590
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 8: I can't really go higher with them, So I think

591
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 8: they're probably going to land a six one.

592
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: More quick one before I let you go. Northern Kentucky

593
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Speaker 2: Tonight Horizon League against Wright State semi Finals. Can nku

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Speaker 2: make it back to the dance? Did I stump him Rocco? Yeah,

595
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Speaker 2: we tried, Tarren, Shannon, I tried Rocco. You there. I

596
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Speaker 2: think we lost them. Oh well, Tarn wanted me to

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Speaker 2: go anyway. I was trying to get the ink you

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Speaker 2: question answer. Shannon Miner didn't yell at me. Let's take

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Speaker 2: a break.

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Speaker 2: How much is he just a basket case?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yes, for sure, I'm gonna have that. People are gonna

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Speaker 2: Does that mean you're probably gonna have to talk more

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Speaker 4: No, because what usually we'll do is we're not supposed

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Speaker 2: Okay, I know we're not supposed to, but it's it's

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Speaker 2: you know, conference tournament time, and it's championship week. Like

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00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: this is different than like a Red's Brewers game, you know,

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00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 2: an afternoon Red's Brewers game in in you know, May,

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00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: a little different. There's a lot on the line, especially

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Speaker 2: tomorrow the guy. I genuinely don't know what's gonna happen

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00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 2: with Wes Miller in this job. You know, if you

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00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: asked me right now, I would think the odds are

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Speaker 2: pretty good that he's back, or at least better than

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00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty that he's back. But a loss to

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Speaker 2: Utah would be hard to sell. It'd be hard to sell.

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Speaker 2: That would be great radio for me. Yeah, yeah, well

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00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: not for the fans. The fans are fans are not

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Speaker 2: in a good place, tarn. This is It's what we

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Speaker 2: predicted or talked about, at least I don't know predicted,

650
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Speaker 2: but talked about on Friday. It would be very Cincinnati

651
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: to go six and one down this stretch, to go

652
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: from life support life support to on the cusp of

653
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament, have everything right happen that you needed

654
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: to happen, and then fall short and not get to

655
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: the finish line. And that's exactly what happened. The reality

656
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: was TCU played m whuch better than Cincinnati played. Their

657
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: pressure bothered the hell out of Cincinnati's guards. Nineteen turnovers,

658
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: nineteen turnovers in a must win game, you have to

659
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: play better than that. You have to coach better than that,

660
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: you have to prepare better than that, you have to

661
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: know TCU. That's how they play. They want you to

662
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: force they want to force turnovers, they want to score

663
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 2: off of your mistakes. And it was execution related a

664
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: lot of it. Like if you watch the beginning of

665
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 2: that game, there were four or five times they had

666
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: a guy wide open in the corner for a three.

667
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: They beat the pressure, they delivered the pass, and the

668
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: pass was either bad or the catch was bad. They

669
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 2: never even got a shot off in four of those

670
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 2: situations because it ended up out of bounds or whatever,

671
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: stepping on the line, dribbling out. You know, the pass

672
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: was bad, the catch was bad, the execution was bad.

673
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: You did what you had to do to beat the

674
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 2: TCU defense, and then TCU just started camping a guy

675
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: out on that baseline. And every time Cincinnati tried to

676
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: make that baseline pass to the wing shoot or the

677
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: corner shooter. There was somebody in the way. It's very

678
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: interesting what's going to happen over these next couple of days.

679
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: Beating Utah's not getting you in. I don't think beating

680
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: UCF gets you on the right side of the bubble

681
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: on Wednesday.

682
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 4: Beating Arizona.

683
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: Beating Arizona probably gets you in. But there's a snowballs

684
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: chance in hell they're beating Arizona. I know that, Like, yeah,

685
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 2: of course, Arizona's probably gonna be what the three seed

686
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: in the whole tournament. Yes, I can't see them being

687
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 2: ahead of Duke. I can't see them being ahead of Michigan,

688
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: them ahead of Florida. They've had two losses this year

689
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: to top ten teams. That's their only two losses on the season.

690
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 2: I think they're the third best team in the country

691
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: right now. And Cincinnati struggled mightily with Arizona in Arizona. Now,

692
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: it'd be on a neutral floor, but I I just man,

693
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: it would it would. I said this last week, when

694
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: when this was looking like it was a possibility. I

695
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: think if you see an Arizona play, how many times

696
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 2: do you think out of one hundred, you see woud

697
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 2: beat Arizona. My answer was somewhere in the three to

698
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: five range.

699
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 4: We have we have, we have another signing. Let's go.

700
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: Bood Do Do Doo.

701
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 4: According to Mike Gruffalo, the Bengals have acquired Boye Mafe.

702
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: Which is one of those defensive lineman guys that we

703
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 2: talked about last week. That's pretty big. They came to

704
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: Life Taran two super Bowl winners. Yeah, they came to

705
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 2: Life boy Tony. How mad is Tony?

706
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 4: Right?

707
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 8: Now?

708
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: You get the assignment right like free agency. Legal tampering

709
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 2: period opens uh noon on Monday, Like you're you have

710
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: a hard time. I'm not gonna. I had a hard

711
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: time planning this show because you're not sure exactly.

712
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 4: What you like.

713
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 2: We could have had a situation where they made two

714
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: moves before three o'clock and then we're kind of set.

715
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: They didn't do anything before three o'clock, so then the

716
00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: show trends towards well, what what the heck is going on?

717
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: Now we've got two signings before four to ten? Now

718
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: the show changes again.

719
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 4: Three years sixty million, wooh.

720
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: Cook, three years forty million, forty point twenty five Mafe

721
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 2: three years, sixty million, so one hundred million dollars spent

722
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: by the Bengals today. Pretty good. Now, Mafe was more

723
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: of a situational guy in Seattle, didn't start a ton,

724
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: so just the guy that's usage is fairly low. He

725
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: was a specialist. Nine sacks in twenty three, six sacks

726
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: in twenty four, only two sacks and twenty five. The

727
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: tackle numbers are a little concerning for me. Fifty two

728
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: his second year in the NFL twenty twenty three, dropped

729
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 2: to forty in twenty twenty four. Only thirty one tackles

730
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: last year, so last year was his least productive. He

731
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: did play seventeen games, he was durable, only started in

732
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: four of them, and like I said, situational guy, so

733
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: he wasn't on the field a ton, more of a

734
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: pass rush specialist. But he's got some pedigree. He's a

735
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 2: guy that can get after the quarterback. They needed guys

736
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: that can get after the quarterback. So Boye Mafi has

737
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: been added to Brian Cook. And I cannot possibly say

738
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: enough good things about Brian Cook. I've known him for

739
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: five six years now, I think six years since he

740
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: transferred to Cincinnati, went to Mount Health very under recruited

741
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: out of high school. He was a cornerback. Transferred back

742
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: to Cincinnati and worked and worked and worked, and I

743
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: remembered Tarren, it was Derek Forest, Who's my guy. I

744
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 2: can't believe I forgot Derek forst Derek Forest and James

745
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: Wiggins were in that secondary, in that safety room. Forrest

746
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: moved on, Hicks moved up, Javon Hicks, and Cook became

747
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: part of that rotation and then took over his final

748
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 2: year and was outstanding. He's exactly what the Bengals needed

749
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: at safety. I thought, Sure Tackler can play the run,

750
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: can play the pass. Was used mostly as a deeper

751
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: safety in Kansas City, which with his background is a

752
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: corner that's fine. But he's a guy that can hit.

753
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: He'll lay a guy over the middle of the field

754
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: so you can bring him up and use him in

755
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: the box if you need me. He is physical, but

756
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 2: he excels in coverage. Sure Tackler and what has been

757
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: a huge problem for the Bengals big plays, chunk plays,

758
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: getting beat down the field. You feel like you've elevated

759
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: your corner play last year, you feel pretty good about

760
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 2: your corner position, and now you go out and get

761
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: a guy like Brian Cook to play that deep safety

762
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: that can really help you over the middle of the field,

763
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: help you down the field. So you get two Super

764
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 2: Bowl champions. One of the questions was leadership on this defense.

765
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: Correct we knew Trey Hendrickson was not a leader, was

766
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: not a that you know, played the pied Piper music

767
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 2: and people followed him. Trey Hendrickson was about Trey Hendrickson,

768
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: and that's fine, you can have that, but there wasn't

769
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: anybody else that was ready to step up and be

770
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 2: a leader on that defense. Now you get a couple

771
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: guys with some pedigree. Now you get a couple guys

772
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 2: with a ring. Now you show some activity on day one,

773
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 2: you show to your fan base that you're serious. And

774
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: these are two names that were pretty high up the

775
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: list in terms of top one hundred free agents. We

776
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 2: talked about Mafi on Thursday as one of the defensive

777
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 2: linemen that that very much should be in play. And

778
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 2: it didn't get the defense of the pass rushing defensive tackle.

779
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 2: But that was a very thin market that gets magnified

780
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: if you don't get any other help. But they've gone

781
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: out and done something. I think it's a message to

782
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 2: the locker room, it's a message to the fan base.

783
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 2: We are serious about winning. And how about this, tarn

784
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 2: What a day for Bearcats. Alec Pierce four years, one

785
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 2: hundred and fourteen million dollars becomes the highest paid free

786
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 2: agent wide receiver in the history of the NFL. Brian

787
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: Cook three years, forty million dollars, forty point twenty five

788
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:54,479
Speaker 2: million dollars, Kobe Bryant three years, forty million dollars. Add

789
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: that to the four years, one hundred and twenty point

790
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 2: four million dollar deals Sauce Gardner signed. And that's your

791
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bearcat's twenty twenty two draft class alumni that are

792
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 2: getting that second deal, lou Fick matter crup that's four

793
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 2: guys three hundred million dollars.

794
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 4: And not to mention like the smaller guy like Jerome Ford,

795
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 4: who is still around.

796
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: Yeah there are. I mean they had what nine guys

797
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: drafted in that class. Yep, there's still there's still a

798
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: couple of them floating around. But those were the headliners

799
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: and boy Gardner, Cook, Bryant, and people questioned like they

800
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: people Taran, people thought I was crazy when I said

801
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 2: Cincinnati has the best secondary in college football in twenty

802
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: twenty one. Oh, they don't play anybody. You don't know

803
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: what you're talking about. And then they got to the

804
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 2: Cotton Bowl and Nick Saban said, I'm not throwing on

805
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: these dudes. We're gonna run fifty times. I'm not throwing.

806
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: They had Jamison Williams and wouldn't throw him the ball

807
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: because Sauce Gardner was on him. What a great group,

808
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: four great stories. Kobe Bryant, it was an afterthought Tarren

809
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: Ohio State didn't recruit him, even though his brother was very,

810
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 2: very good, didn't have a lot of love, didn't have

811
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 2: a lot of hype. Lucavico got that Cincinnati and said,

812
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 2: come on, let's go Alec Pierce played on a team

813
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: that ran the football. A Ton didn't really get to

814
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: showcase his skills in high school. Came to Cincinnati, not

815
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 2: a lot of fanfare. Nobody really knew who he was

816
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 2: or what he was about. I've talked about Brian Cook,

817
00:53:53,360 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 2: mount Healthy, overlooked. Sauce Gardner didn't get Michigan and didn't

818
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: get Michigan State lands at Cincinnati. If you're gonna if

819
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 2: you're gonna win without elite resources, that's how you do

820
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 2: it right there? You go get those four guys, and

821
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: you get them a COVID year, get them an extra

822
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: year to hang around. But you go get those four guys.

823
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: Life's looking pretty good. Congratulations to all of them, all

824
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: four great great dudes, great ambassadors for UC football. Really

825
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 2: happy to see the four of them. Uh set themselves

826
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Speaker 2: up for life. Just take a break. Phone lines open five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Richard Skinner coming up in about twelve minutes

828
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Speaker 2: as well. Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Here we go keeping it rolling. Hour number two, the

840
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Speaker 2: Bengals rise from the the ashes is boye Mafe Howard said,

841
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 2: do we know that yet? I'm pretty sure that's how

842
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 2: I heard it all last year. Okay, I think it

843
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 2: is too, but I my brain's not the greatest. I'm

844
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: getting old tearing, coming up on forty nine in October fifties,

845
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 2: closing in fast. We're still a young man. What are

846
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: you talking about? Speaking of old? Let's go to Mike

847
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 2: in La Michael. That was mean, Mike. What's going on? Brother?

848
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 10: You had to do that.

849
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 2: It was there. I couldn't pass it up. I hate

850
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 2: myself for doing it, but I'd have been mad at

851
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: myself if I didn't.

852
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 3: You should you?

853
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 10: So let me give you Karen give him a different

854
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 10: phone number. Well, hey, girls, it's my buddy.

855
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened number.

856
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I'm just kidding, Mike, just having fun.

857
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 10: I know you are in your own weird ass way. Okay,

858
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 10: sorry about that work. You know, people say it all

859
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 10: the time, so it's not like that's I know the

860
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,959
Speaker 10: really bad words that you can't say.

861
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 3: I do. I know what those are, right?

862
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 10: Sometimes I really want to use them too. When it

863
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 10: came to TCU out hustling, out toughing the University of

864
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 10: Cincinnati the other night.

865
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 2: They were the more physical team.

866
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 10: Pissed off that you see right now, I can't see straight.

867
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: I mean I get it, like they they didn't meet

868
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: the like and we knew coming in everything about TCU,

869
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: Like that's the scouting report. Physical, not tall, but physical,

870
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 2: and they're gonna try to push you back. They're gonna

871
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: try to push your offense out around half court. You're

872
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: gonna have to make quick decisions with the basketball, and

873
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to make smart decisions with the basketball

874
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: to beat their defense. Since that he didn't do it,

875
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: they were sloppy. I think they got intimidated. I genuinely

876
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: feel like from the opening segment they had three turnovers

877
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: in the four minutes, five turnovers, like right away, and uh,

878
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 2: it was immediately clear that TCU was the more physical

879
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 2: team in Cincinnati. Did not match the challenge.

880
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 10: No, it was a it. This was so I thought,

881
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 10: just very disappointing, kid, very disappointing.

882
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, though, Mike, TCU won eight of

883
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: nine to end conference play. They beat Texas Tech at

884
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: Texas Tech. That is a good TCU team. The problem

885
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: wasn't that they went to Fort Worth and lost to TCU.

886
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: The problem is that they put themselves in a position

887
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 2: that that game mattered so much. Beat Eastern Michigan, beat Xavier,

888
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 2: when either one of the West Virginia games, like the

889
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 2: beat Arizona State. There's again it's it's another year where

890
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 2: there's five games to look at and go. If they

891
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: just went two and three, they're in the tournament and

892
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: we're not even having this conversation right now. We're talking

893
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: about are they going to be an eight to nine

894
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 2: or a ten seed?

895
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, and now I didn't get to see all the game.

896
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 10: What the hell will happened to Bobo? Did he just

897
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 10: decided to take the nine off or what they.

898
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: Took him away? They did not allow him to get

899
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: into the positions that he had been getting into to

900
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: score the basketball. He's still he had thirteen rebounds and

901
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 2: seven assists, so it wasn't like he played terrible, but

902
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: TCU took away those looks that he has been really

903
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: good at, you know, twelve feet an end at twelve

904
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: feet in end. They kept him away from getting to

905
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: those spots. He impacted the game in other ways. But

906
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 2: he also had five turnovers, and he also, you know,

907
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: just didn't handle it as well as he should have.

908
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: He didn't to handle there. And we've seen that before

909
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 2: sometimes a couple of times this year when teams are

910
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 2: super physical with him, he struggles with it. And and

911
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 2: they were super physical with him.

912
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 10: He didn't play good because they knew going in that

913
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 10: TCU was averaging fourteen turnovers a game.

914
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, like, nothing that happened was there was nothing

915
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 2: that was off script, Mike, It's it. It played out

916
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,439
Speaker 2: exactly like if if you would have asked me, how

917
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 2: does TCU win? The only thing I probably would have

918
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: missed is I thought TCU would. Cincinnati was pretty even

919
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: on the glass, Like that's one of the ways TCU wins.

920
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: But that's exactly how it would have been. That TCUs

921
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 2: the more physical team. They forced Cincinnati to make mistakes

922
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: that they haven't been. They made more miss they made

923
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 2: more turnovers against TCU than they had in the previous

924
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 2: three games combined.

925
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 10: Now, and I want to get to NFL real quick,

926
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 10: because that's the big thing.

927
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: To real quick.

928
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 10: But you I still can't tell you on Florida. You

929
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 10: still think Duke and Arizona are better than I know.

930
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 2: You do, I do. That's okay. I think there are

931
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: four great teams that are considerably above the field in

932
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: college basketball. Duke, Michigan, Arizona, Florida. I think Florida is

933
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 2: probably fourth in that group. But that's not a slight

934
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 2: on Florida. I think they're awesome. I think that they should,

935
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 2: They're gonna be and should be a number one seed.

936
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 10: And I'm glad Bobby or Danny Hurley got beat. I'm

937
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 10: just not a Yukon guy. I'm just not.

938
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I hate Yukon. But but Danny's

939
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: been a friend for a long time.

940
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm sure he's a wonderful guy who likes the

941
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 10: Bengals and all that.

942
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 3: But I wasn't.

943
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 10: I wasn't a Yukon dan back when the Calhoun days.

944
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 2: So well, Calhoun was a word I can't say on

945
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 2: this radio station.

946
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 3: I love you. I love that about you.

947
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 10: Okay. So I the Bengals finally got up to Button

948
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 10: did something that's good. We'll see that off. But look

949
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 10: at these rams again. They don't just get McAfee, oh no,

950
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 10: they don't just get him. They get his running mate

951
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 10: out of KC and Watson. These guys le let's need

952
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,919
Speaker 10: this GM from from the RAMS is and that they

953
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 10: are geniuses.

954
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 3: They're genius.

955
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 2: It's everything as a fan that you want. They want

956
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: to win now at all costs. It doesn't matter the cost.

957
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 2: They want to win now. And then when that window closes,

958
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 2: they say, okay, well let's open the other window. And

959
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 2: they're aggressive that they are aggressively. Duke Tobin makes everybody

960
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 2: chuckle when he says they're all in all the time.

961
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 2: The RAMS general manager could say that with a straight

962
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 2: face because.

963
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 10: They are and go to bed at night knowing he

964
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 10: told the truth. Yep, I know you gotta go. Brother,

965
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 10: Thanks for the time, and you gotta go. I gotta

966
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 10: get them dates from when you're coming.

967
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll be back. I'm back on the first two

968
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 2: days of the NC Tournament. I'm coming out. We leave

969
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 2: the twenty ninth, but we're going to San Diego for

970
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 2: a couple days, staying on Pacific Beach. I got us

971
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 2: a spot like on the water at Pacific Beach and

972
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 2: then coming up to LA like Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, so

973
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 2: like the first, second and third something like that.

974
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 10: We'll see. I'm down and lajoy you now, okay, so

975
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 10: right right in northern San Diego County. And so that

976
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 10: my and my birthdays the thirtieth of March. So this

977
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 10: could just could be a beautiful things. Love to meet

978
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 10: your girls too, Okay, all right.

979
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 2: Thanks Mike da all right, let's take a break. Richard

980
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 2: Skinner when we come back. Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

981
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:48,880
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982
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,160
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983
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986
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988
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01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:18,880
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990
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 2: This report is.

991
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 9: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station.

992
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 2: Damn, it feels good to be a gangst a real

993
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 2: gangs a type play a place car there we good.

994
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 2: It just it just occurred to me.

995
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 4: And we're like Boys album.

996
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 2: We're right about the sixteen year anniversary of the first

997
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 2: time that Skinny and I went on the air together

998
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 2: in a previous radio life for the Richard Skinners Show.

999
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 8: Gosh, is that long ago? I guess it was, wasn't it?

1000
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 3: It was?

1001
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 2: It was twenty twelve, I remember because Kelsey was two

1002
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 2: and we our first show was the NCAA Tournament, was

1003
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 2: it not?

1004
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 3: It was?

1005
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 8: I believe that's correct.

1006
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 3: I believe that is correct. Wow, time flies, life.

1007
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 2: Comes at you fast, Skinny.

1008
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 8: I'm well to my AARP years, so we're good.

1009
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I just told Taren, I'm like six months

1010
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 2: from forty nine, so like fifty is flying at me.

1011
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 11: Fast, and it'll hitchin and the next number hitchin, and

1012
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 11: you hope to live for the next number of that.

1013
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1014
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 2: Just get me out of here, Skinny. How was the

1015
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 2: hurry up and wait today right like nude? Yeah, buckle

1016
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 2: up and then hours and hours to wait.

1017
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 11: So it makes you wonder. I don't have this as

1018
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 11: fact that it doesn't make me wonder. That you know

1019
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 11: was John Franklin Meyer's at Target and it just got

1020
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 11: too rich for their blood because it felt like once

1021
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 11: the announcement of him going to Tennessee for the money

1022
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 11: he went, and I didn't think it was bad money.

1023
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 11: I think probably a little too rich for their blood.

1024
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 11: But maybe he could have made something work. And I

1025
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 11: don't know if he was a target of theirs or not.

1026
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 11: I would have hoped he would have been, because they

1027
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 11: need interior tackle help badly. But man, as soon as

1028
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 11: that move was made, it was boom Brian Cook and

1029
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 11: then boom boy Mafe. So I just wonder if that

1030
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 11: was them. You know, they have their the It wasn't

1031
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 11: gonna be all eggs in one basket for John Franklin Myers.

1032
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 11: I mean, they're gonna have money left over to spend.

1033
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 11: But it was almost like that was maybe a chief

1034
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 11: target didn't get him all right, Now it's quickly pivot

1035
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 11: to our safety target and our ene rusher target, and

1036
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 11: kudos to them.

1037
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 3: I like them both.

1038
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: Brian Cook is the opposite of what they've been at safety.

1039
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 3: Right.

1040
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 2: He can cover the deep end of the field, he

1041
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 2: doesn't miss tackles. He can make plays on the ball

1042
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 2: down the field, but you can move him up in

1043
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 2: the box. He's physical, smart, like you know everything. You're

1044
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 2: kind of looking for at the safety position that they

1045
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 2: haven't what a heck of a lot of value on

1046
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 2: Uh it feels like you're getting with Brian Cook.

1047
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean going knock would be done. He doesn't

1048
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 11: have a lot of interception in his career, so he's

1049
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,919
Speaker 11: not a big ball hawk. But I mean I thought

1050
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 11: the big number to me, you know, I've been put

1051
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 11: me stories up today and I did something with him

1052
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 11: a couple of weeks ago, just looking at the safety market.

1053
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 11: He had nine according to Pro Football Reference, and they're

1054
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 11: pretty good. Them and Pro Football Focus are usually close

1055
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 11: on numbers like this. Nine total missed tackles in the

1056
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 11: last two years combined, playing all seventeen games. Both heres

1057
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 11: nine miss tackles in thirty four games. Heck, I think

1058
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 11: I watched you know, Stone missed nine miss tackles in.

1059
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 2: Four quarters that one game, Stone exactly.

1060
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 8: So yes, to your point, it is the opposite of that.

1061
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 11: You know, when they got Geno Stone, I think they

1062
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 11: were just hoping that he was going to be the

1063
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 11: guy that was going to be a centerfielder stealing passes,

1064
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 11: and he did some of that, but the tackling problems

1065
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 11: were just so stark that you had to make sure

1066
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 11: you were getting a solid tackler back there to fill

1067
01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 11: that void. And I think the good part of that

1068
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 11: is now that doesn't take you on in the candle

1069
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 11: downs market either, Am I right? I mean, I mean

1070
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 11: you really don't have a safety room.

1071
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 8: It's filled.

1072
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 11: You have Jordan Battle and you have Brian Cook coming

1073
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 11: after he's allowed to sign after four o'clock on Wednesday,

1074
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 11: And I think you know now that you got mave

1075
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 11: if you can get that rotational interior piece, and it's

1076
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 11: just there's just there's just I mean, Franklin Myers was

1077
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 11: the guy, and well after that, it's kind of a

1078
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 11: drop off, but it does not allow you to start

1079
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 11: looking and going Okay, now we need to fill some

1080
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 11: depth pieces through the draft. I still think they get

1081
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 11: a veteran linebacker and a free agency talking out gold

1082
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 11: to the combine. I asked him that question if he'd

1083
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 11: like to have one to pair with the kids, and

1084
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 11: he said absolutely. I want guys who can give me versatility.

1085
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 11: So I do think they attack that position group. I

1086
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 11: do think at some point they they could even add

1087
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 11: another rotational edge. They definitely have to add in my

1088
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 11: opinion of rotator, you can't go into next year with

1089
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 11: t J. Slayton, BJ Hill, McKinley Jackson and Chris Changkins.

1090
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 11: Is your four tackles you got to add there. But

1091
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 11: you know what, if Caleb Down doesn't fall to you

1092
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 11: and you like Peter Woods from Clemson, maybe he's the

1093
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 11: guy that kills that boy.

1094
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 8: So it's I think the good part is you attacked

1095
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 8: a couple of big positions.

1096
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 11: You're right off the back to where you know, you're

1097
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 11: not taking a deep breath yet. I think if they

1098
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 11: had come out of today with nothing just right there,

1099
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 11: you know what their hands, you'd have gone, oh boy,

1100
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 11: they didn't.

1101
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 8: I think they did a nice job so far.

1102
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 2: I think it's you know, you hear a lot of like,

1103
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 2: don't panic, there's still time. There's a lot of guys

1104
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 2: on the board. I think the first day is important.

1105
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 2: I think it's important to send a message.

1106
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 8: Yep, I'm with you.

1107
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 11: I because you're seeing really quality players fly off them. Yeah,

1108
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 11: like people and teams had their targets, they knew what

1109
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 11: their targets were. They went after their targets and and

1110
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 11: landed them. And you know, to me, I think the

1111
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 11: last time we talked that the two safety targets from

1112
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 11: me were practually the two you see guys Told Bryant

1113
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 11: and Brian Cook, and when Kobe Bryant went earlier in

1114
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 11: the day of the Bears, and there's Brian Cook, And honestly,

1115
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 11: there's a lot of ratings that have Brian Cook ready

1116
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 11: to ahead of Kobe Bryant, maybe not by a lot

1117
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 11: of spots.

1118
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 8: But ahead of them. So you know, you probably you know,

1119
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 8: splitting hairs here. You got a good player if you

1120
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 8: got right, and you got a good player. So yeah,

1121
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 8: you've got two starting caliber, at.

1122
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 12: Least the very minimum, a really good rotational edge piece

1123
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 12: that I mean the hope of d Shamar Stewart plays

1124
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,839
Speaker 12: like a first round pick right and Miles Burthy continues

1125
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 12: to ascend. And you've got a great third rotational piece

1126
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 12: in Mofeck because he played on a deep defensive line

1127
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 12: in Seattle.

1128
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 8: You look at his numbers and people.

1129
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 10: That going they had two sacks last year.

1130
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 8: He actually ranked forty eight of one hundred and fifteen

1131
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 8: edge rushers in pressures, so it means he's getting pressure.

1132
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 8: They just had so many guys cleaning up sacks. It

1133
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 8: felt like they had a thousand guys record you know,

1134
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 8: two to between two and ten sacks on that on

1135
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 8: that team, which shows you it was kind of a collective.

1136
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 8: So this was this was a good start. It can't

1137
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 8: even be close to the end, but it's a good start.

1138
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's uh, it's important, and it's I

1139
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 2: think it's a signal to everybody on that roster that

1140
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 2: we're serious about fixing this defense. And mafe if you

1141
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 2: go back and what nine sacks in twenty three, six

1142
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 2: sacks and twenty four and like you said, it was

1143
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 2: just a matter of good I mean, it was everybody

1144
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 2: feasted in that Seahawks defense. But go get champions, Skinny.

1145
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 2: I'm also a big proponent of that. You win and

1146
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 2: got two super Bowl champions on day one, correct important pieces.

1147
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 8: He won to ring in twenty two, and Mafey want

1148
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 8: to ring this past year. So I think that I

1149
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 8: think that is a very good point.

1150
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 11: That's another important pieces. You landed two super Bowl champions.

1151
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 11: And while Brian wasn't a key part of that twenty

1152
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 11: twenty two team, he was a rotational part of twenty

1153
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 11: two team. He was just a rookie and he eventually

1154
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 11: evolved into a starter who started all thirty four games

1155
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 11: the last two years for a good reason, because he

1156
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:44,839
Speaker 11: was a good player.

1157
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: When you look back at that Bearcat's twenty one team,

1158
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 2: does today validate how good that team was? You add

1159
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 2: Sauce and Alec and Kobe and Cook like validation for

1160
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 2: that Luke Fickle team?

1161
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 8: No question. I mean in your quarterback played in the

1162
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 8: league a little bit and kicked around for a little

1163
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 8: bit longer.

1164
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I think your own forward like there are

1165
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 2: other guys still kicking around too.

1166
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 11: Correct. Yeah, yeah, no, great question. I'm a great point

1167
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 11: and you know, and what an eye for talent because

1168
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 11: keep in mind Brian Cook out of Mount Healthy went

1169
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 11: to Howard University. Yeah, he was very lightly recruited and

1170
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 11: transferred to UC and really developed, I mean in.

1171
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 8: A top play grid. I just thinking about that secondary alone.

1172
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 8: What was back there for that group?

1173
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 2: My word, I believe. I asked you when he transferred

1174
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 2: in do you remember him? And you said, no, I don't.

1175
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 3: I don't.

1176
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 8: I don't remember him at all.

1177
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 11: And I did some high school games involving Mount Help.

1178
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:40,759
Speaker 11: I don't even remember him a Mount Healthy, right.

1179
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 2: That's what I was like. I knew you knew like

1180
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: you were around and I was like, Skinny, do you

1181
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 2: remember this kid? Liked? Can you tell me? You're like, no,

1182
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 2: I don't remember him at all. Now he's got forty

1183
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 2: million in the bank, Yes he does.

1184
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 11: Now I know him.

1185
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: Now, kudos to him. Like the one thing I will say,

1186
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 2: he's the only pet player, Skinny, I've been doing this

1187
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 2: twenty years now. He's the only player that legitimately, like

1188
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 2: I was frightened of when he had the predator look

1189
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 2: with the dreadlocks and like you'll see when you when

1190
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 2: you're around him. He's got this stone face when he

1191
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 2: when he's out there.

1192
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 11: It's funny you say that, because I put the story

1193
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 11: up online our website lowsol dot com, and I threw

1194
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 11: some photos in there, and I threw three action shots

1195
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 11: I think, but there was a one with his helmet

1196
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 11: off where he looked like he was looking to beat

1197
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 11: the living day, like just saw anybody. The first guy

1198
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 11: was gonna cross his plane, he was gonna clock them.

1199
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 3: I know that.

1200
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 8: There's like, it's a great picture. I wish I would

1201
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 8: have used about it now. I just used three action shots.

1202
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 2: If be done with it, I literally like when he

1203
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 2: was around I I was afraid, like I'm not. I

1204
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 2: don't want to talk to cook like he scares me.

1205
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 2: I'm good. I do not want to talk to him.

1206
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 2: The reds Uh do you make anything of spring training yet? Like,

1207
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think the bats are going to

1208
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 2: be better, but I it's it's it's spring training. I

1209
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 2: don't know. Like, and I think they're gonna need the

1210
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 2: bats to carry them for a little while, at least

1211
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 2: until we have a better idea on Hunter.

1212
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 8: I think the Matt McClain more consistent contact is a

1213
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 8: great time. I mean, like last year in spring he

1214
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 8: was missing a lot. You know, I'm I don't always

1215
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 8: look at numbers because to your point, they can skew,

1216
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 8: Like Andrew Abbits has had three just starts so far,

1217
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 8: and yet he's the oldening day Starter. He's coming off

1218
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 8: of your Warriors, an all star off. I'll I'll take

1219
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 8: a little bit more of that sample size.

1220
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 2: You know what's funny to me, I was when he

1221
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 2: when he was announced at Starter, I was like, have

1222
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: him and Lodola really? Like, I feel like Lodolo's having

1223
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: a great start. He's not.

1224
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 3: He's not.

1225
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:33,759
Speaker 8: No, it's been okay.

1226
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 2: He hasn't given up runs, but He's put a ton

1227
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 2: of guys on base runs.

1228
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, a lot of base runners. Yeah, you know, obviously

1229
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 8: the damper of the Hunter situation, but I think that's

1230
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 8: touched a little bit.

1231
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 11: I'm excited if RTT Louder and Chase Barns are in

1232
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 11: this rotation.

1233
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 8: I have to take away from Hunter Green. Hunter Green's

1234
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 8: been there, done that.

1235
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 11: But Hunter Green's also not been there, done that.

1236
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 8: For lots and seasons.

1237
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 11: I mean, his most starts, his twenty six starts, the

1238
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 11: most inany pitches, one hundred and fifty to thirty. Who

1239
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 11: are gonna need these kids? And so kind of excited

1240
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 11: to see what that looks like off the bat because

1241
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 11: they are both electric in different ways. Probably burns with

1242
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 11: more strikeout stuff. But rehtt Louders, Red Louders and those guys,

1243
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 11: you just go, that's a picture. That's what a picture

1244
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 11: looks like.

1245
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, Cincinnati basketball, do they have to make the tournament?

1246
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 2: What do you not?

1247
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 8: Great questions?

1248
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer because I don't know. There's

1249
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 2: so much in play here dynamically, with finances and and

1250
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,759
Speaker 2: a million other things. Correct, but if you were calling

1251
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 2: the shots, does it make the tournament? Or move on?

1252
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 8: I think it is.

1253
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 11: I think five years as a fair enough chance to

1254
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 11: build a roster. Three years in the league. Now, I'm

1255
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 11: gonna give you the flip side of this, and you

1256
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 11: know it's far better than I do. But if you

1257
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 11: have an AD that sits there, who he's the one

1258
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 11: that gave you an extension, He's the one that's kind

1259
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 11: of got you in the financial pickle at the moment

1260
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 11: of trying to buy him out. But if he says, man,

1261
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 11: you know what, we're finally starting to get it from

1262
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 11: a roster building perspective. From the way this team hung together,

1263
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 11: I mean, I think we don't agree. After the West

1264
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 11: Virginia game, this was not only it was a death

1265
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 11: spirals for him in the program. And they fought the

1266
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,640
Speaker 11: way literally back to having their name put on the

1267
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 11: on the bubble and all the bracketologists, which is amazing

1268
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 11: to me. And it shows and I think there were

1269
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 11: so many times this year where you're like, oh, yeah,

1270
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 11: these kids are gonna quit, and.

1271
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 8: They never did.

1272
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 11: And I know that that's probably small consolation, but I

1273
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 11: do think that says something about the coach. So if

1274
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 11: the AD says, hey, it looks like we're turning the

1275
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 11: colors starting to figure out this roster thing. He's starting

1276
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 11: to get some things figured out about what he needs

1277
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 11: to do to win in this league. You know, maybe

1278
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 11: keep shorting the rotation whoever he's playing. All this and

1279
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 11: you feel like it's going the right way.

1280
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 8: And then as you.

1281
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 11: Know, there's a boat booster or to a donor or

1282
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 11: two who says, I like the guy, bring him back,

1283
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 11: And it's a significant donor or two. You know what,

1284
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 11: that guy's coming back. And to your point, though, the

1285
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 11: other part is I assume you could afford the buyout,

1286
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 11: but can you really afford the buyout?

1287
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Well, it's not just Wes's buyout,

1288
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 2: but it's the buyout. You know that Jared Calhoun and

1289
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,799
Speaker 2: Josh Shurtz both have forma million dollar buyouts. Like you're

1290
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 2: gonna pay Wes six to go away, and then you

1291
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 2: need a six seven whatever six seven A you're gonna

1292
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Speaker 2: and then you're gonna pay four for the new guy,

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Speaker 2: Like get ten eleven million. Now that money's coming out

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Speaker 2: of your nil money. Like it's things are so much

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01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 2: more complicated than than they ever have been. Figuring out

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Speaker 2: how the math works. Arren yelling at me.

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Speaker 11: I don't even what they have, don't even looked past tomorrow.

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Speaker 11: I don't even know who they would play if they

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Speaker 11: win tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: You see, and then Arizona.

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Speaker 11: Okay, what if you steal those first two games? I

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Speaker 11: think it also helps him a little bit, like, yeah,

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Speaker 11: that that feels like it continued to go in the

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01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 11: right direction. Losing a TCU's not embarrassing. Losing at Texas

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01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 11: Tech with or without j T topping is not embarrassing.

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Speaker 11: And you've had some nice scalps down the stretch when

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Speaker 11: a couple in the tournament players on a good enough

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Speaker 11: I'm not here to advocate for it, but I can

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Speaker 11: see a pass for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm in the same boat. Appreciate it, man,

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Yep, you pick a Here you go.

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Speaker 2: Richard Skinner Local twelve. You can find him at Local

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Speaker 1: The NFL Free agency is basically Black Friday for billionaires,

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Speaker 2: Here we go our number three No guests, Phone lines

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Speaker 2: are wide open five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Bengals active in free agency. Two signings Chiefs starting safety

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Speaker 2: Brian Cook three years forty point twenty five million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Boy yea Mafe comes over from the champion Seahawks. He

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Speaker 2: gets three years sixty million dollars. How about these numbers

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01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:09,719
Speaker 2: from Andrew Russell of PFF. When the Bengals signed Trey

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01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 2: Hendrickson from the Saints, he had a career ten point

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Speaker 2: two percent win rate one hundred and thirteen pressures and

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Speaker 2: twenty one sacks. Mafe eleven percent win rate, one hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty one pressures twenty sacks. They gambled on Hendrickson.

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01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 2: It paid off. They're gambling on a guy with a

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01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 2: similar profile who has done a better job pressuring the

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01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 2: quarterback at this point in his career. Compared to Trey Hendrickson.

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01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 2: Sack numbers about the same, but those pressures and that

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01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 2: was kind of the name of the game in sam

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01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 2: In at all, right, Tarn, everybody get after the quarterback.

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01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 2: Somebody's going to get him down. Lots of pressure from

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Speaker 2: lots of places. Somebody's going to get the sack. The

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01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 2: Bengals haven't had enough of that, not enough win rate.

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01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 2: It was Trey Hendrickson or bust Miles Murphy showed you

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01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 2: some promise last year and now Mafe looking to have

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01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 2: that jump Cook again. I can't say enough good things

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01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 2: about the guy from what I experienced, what I watched

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01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 2: him do when he was at the University of Cincinnati.

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01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 2: It was almost a complete afterthought that Brian Cook transferred

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01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 2: from Howard back to Cincinnati. I didn't really know anybody

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01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:06,640
Speaker 2: in town that remembered Brian Cook at Mount Healthy. He

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01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 2: came back here, he sat out a year. He was

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01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 2: a rotational guy in his first year with the Bearcats,

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01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 2: and he was outstanding when he took over the job

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01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 2: full time outstanding. And then he goes to the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: He works his way up the roster, works his way

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Speaker 2: up the depth chart, and became a vital piece of

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Speaker 2: that Chiefs defense in his last two years. He's good

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01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 2: in coverage. He's a sure tackler. He'll dislodge the ball

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Speaker 2: over the middle. He's not afraid to hit. You can

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Speaker 2: bring him up in the box. And this is exactly

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Speaker 2: what we were talking about in being active on day

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Speaker 2: one because if guess what, if the Bengals didn't get

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Speaker 2: Boye Mafe and Brian Cook today, somebody else would have

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Speaker 2: and tomorrow would have opened and the number of actual

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Speaker 2: impact guys where you weren't hoping you hit in the

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Speaker 2: discount been would have been small. You would have decreased

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Speaker 2: your odds. That's why getting involved in day one is

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01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 2: so important. It's so important. You've got to be able

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Speaker 2: to identify. Remember these they have all off season to

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Speaker 2: identify what they think is going to help the team

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Speaker 2: the most, and this is the day where that work

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01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 2: pays off. Are there other days? Are there going to

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Speaker 2: be other signings? Yes, the Bengals have a lot of needs.

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01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 2: But if you can't hit on day one, if you

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01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 2: can't hit when the market opens and everybody else goes

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01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 2: through the store and buys the best items and you're

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01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 2: there going through the clearance rack on day eight, the

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Speaker 2: odds of helping yourself decrease greatly. The odds of making

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01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 2: yourself better decrease greatly. And they made sure they were

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Speaker 2: a player, and they got two guys that I think

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Speaker 2: can help them on a defense that desperately needed it.

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Speaker 2: Do they still need help at linebacker, yeah? Could they

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Speaker 2: use another safety, yeah? Do they need a defensive tackle? Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Probably not gonna find one that jumps out at you.

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01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 2: In terms of pass rushing defensive tackles. That was a

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01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 2: thin market. But guess what now, because you've got a

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Speaker 2: guy that disrupts the quarterback, maybe that second tier defensive

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Speaker 2: tackle or that third tier defensive tackle is going to

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01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 2: get home a little bit more because you have two

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Speaker 2: guys now on the edge that are flushing the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: It's all tied together now. Maybe that defensive tackle gets

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Speaker 2: a sack or two because you've got a safety that's

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01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,839
Speaker 2: in place over the middle of the field where quarterback

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01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 2: just doesn't feel comfortable standing there and waiting till the

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01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,719
Speaker 2: last second to deliver a ball late because he knows

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01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 2: this guy is going to be open. It was critical,

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Speaker 2: given what we've known of this defense and how much

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01:25:52,760 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 2: they needed to fix. It was critical that they make

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Speaker 2: a move, and they made two. A lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: coming out of Uce. Just now Quinton Coates. If you're

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Speaker 2: not familiar with the name Quenton Coates, he's a sophomore

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01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 2: at UC. He hit seven home runs in five games

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Speaker 2: this week. He has twelve home runs on the season.

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Speaker 2: It was known that he was probably going to be

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Speaker 2: the star of this UC offense. He's been significantly better

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Speaker 2: than even imagined. And Jordan Bischell has a really, really

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Speaker 2: fun team. I think last I checked an RPI, they

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Speaker 2: are sixth in the country through their first fifteen or

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Speaker 2: sob games, sixth in the country. Also Big Twelve releasing

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01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 2: their honors today for the season. Mustapha Chom honorable mention.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of where I felt he would be. He

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01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 2: he came on late, he was outstanding over the final month.

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Speaker 2: He gets an honorable mention, and then Bob A. Miller

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Speaker 2: All Newcomer and Big twelve Second Team thirteen points, thirteen

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Speaker 2: point four points, ten point one rebounds, three point six assists,

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01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 2: one point two blocks per game. I can't imagine it's

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Speaker 2: gonna change in the conference tournament. He's on pace to

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01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 2: be the first Bearcat to lead the team in points, rebounds,

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01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 2: and ASSISI since Oscar Robertson. That's a pretty that's pretty rare,

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Speaker 2: rare air for Bobon Miller. Cincinnati, of course, fell Saturday

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Speaker 2: at TCU, lost by ten in a game that it

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Speaker 2: really was never out of reach, but man, it just

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01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 2: never felt like Cincinnati had that push in them to

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Speaker 2: really put game pressure on TCU and make that thing interesting.

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Speaker 2: And every time it felt like they were okay, let's

1435
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Speaker 2: feel okay, they got it down to nine, they got

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Speaker 2: it down to seven. I think one time they got

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Speaker 2: it down to six on back to back threes and okay,

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01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 2: and then turnovers would return, and the physicality of TCU

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01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 2: in that game it was too much for Cincinnati. They

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Speaker 2: did not handle it well. And I've seen a lot

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Speaker 2: of you know, that's not a good TCU team. I disagree.

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Speaker 2: That's a TCU team that plays really good defense. They're rugged,

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01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 2: they push you around. You have to be you have

1444
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 2: to have the ability. Your guards have to have the

1445
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 2: ability to execute at a very high level to beat

1446
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 2: that TCU defense. And Cincinnati's guards didn't do it. TCU

1447
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 2: took away that combo of Bobba Miller and Mustapha Chom.

1448
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 2: They didn't have the height, but they had the size

1449
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 2: and they had the quickness. They doubled Chom a lot.

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01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,679
Speaker 2: They forced the ball out of Miller's hands. He had

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01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 2: seven assists. It wasn't like he was completely in effect,

1452
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 2: but he was one of four from the floor. He

1453
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 2: had four points. That's your second team All Big East.

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01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 2: They're big twelve guy. Excuse me, your second team all

1455
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 2: big twelve guy. If he can't at least carry some

1456
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 2: of the scoring load because of everything else he does,

1457
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 2: you don't need him at twenty two points, but you

1458
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 2: need him at fourteen in a game like that, and

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01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 2: he finished with four and he only got four shots up.

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01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 2: It just wasn't good enough. And now for Wes Miller,

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01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what the answer is here. Without knowing

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01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 2: how this looks in Kansas City, they play Utah in

1463
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 2: the opening round. If you remember, Utah was up five

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01:30:55,400 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 2: with ninety seconds left at fifth Third Arena. It's another

1465
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,639
Speaker 2: game where Utah was really physical. Cincinnati did not play well,

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01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 2: did not handle it well. But then they go on

1467
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 2: a nine to zero run in the final ninety seconds,

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01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:10,640
Speaker 2: win the game by four, and they were able to

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01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 2: keep the hot streak alive. But Utah has some proof

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01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 2: of concept here. They know they've played Cincinnati tough, they

1471
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 2: know they probably should have won that game. They played

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Speaker 2: better than Cincinnati for all but ninety seconds of that game.

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Speaker 2: And then if you win there, you get UCF. You

1474
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 2: beat UCF handily here at fifth third Arena, but you

1475
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 2: lost in the final ten seconds down in Orlando early

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01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 2: in the season. I don't know what to think of UCF.

1477
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:47,639
Speaker 2: That is a team that was comfortably in the tournament

1478
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 2: probably three weeks ago, and they have been bad since.

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01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:54,600
Speaker 2: I think they're still in I don't, I mean, but

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01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 2: I mean they were looking at playing themselves up to

1481
01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 2: the six seven hey seed range. I mean you're talking

1482
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 2: nine or ten now. They have been that bad down

1483
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 2: the stretch, and if you get past those two and Look,

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01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 2: if you're asking does west Miller return or not, I'd

1485
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 2: feel a lot more comfortable saying yes he will. If

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01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 2: you get past at least Utah and UCF and then

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01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 2: you get Arizona, good luck. They probably need to beat

1488
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 2: Arizona to play their way into the field. The odds

1489
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:46,679
Speaker 2: are low. That's just such a fundamentally sound, solid Arizona team.

1490
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 2: They had three first team All Big twelve players that

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01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 2: didn't include star freshman Coe Pete, Jaden Bradley, Braden Burry's

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01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 2: who's also a freshman, and then Montas Crevas three first

1493
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 2: teamers to go along with CoA Pete and six Man

1494
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 2: of the Year Tobyo Waka. It's just such a fundamentally

1495
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 2: sound successful team that it's going to be a very

1496
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 2: tall task. And that's that's if Cincinnati can get there.

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Speaker 2: One thing I will say, they've been very resilient. They

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01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 2: have bounced back at a high level when things have

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01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 2: gone wrong this year. See if they can do it again. Miami.

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Speaker 2: ESPN is still saying Miami is a bubble team. I

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Speaker 2: can't see a World or thirty one in oh Miami

1502
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:53,640
Speaker 2: with a loss in the MAC Tournament. Isn't an NCAA

1503
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 2: tournament team. This is what I have said for weeks.

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01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 2: If they get to thirty one and oh, I don't

1505
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 2: think it's a debate. I think they're in. I think

1506
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 2: where you open yourself up to that harsh criticism of

1507
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 2: your resume was if they lost in the regular season

1508
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 2: and then they stumbled in the MAC tournament, then I

1509
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 2: think they go through with a little more fine tooth

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01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 2: comb on your resume. But as it stands eighteen and

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01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 2: zero in the MAC undefeated regular season. Guess what, if

1512
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 2: it was easy, there'd be a lot more people that

1513
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 2: do it. Say what you will about Miami schedule. It

1514
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 2: wasn't great, say what you will, but the reality is

1515
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:42,600
Speaker 2: they went out there every night and they got to

1516
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 2: the finish line in thirty one straight games with the lead.

1517
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 2: Things were tense against Ohio on Friday night. Like I said, like,

1518
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:57,719
Speaker 2: if you're Ohio, that was a once in a lifetime

1519
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:02,640
Speaker 2: opportunity to completely spoil four months of work from your

1520
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:06,679
Speaker 2: your hated rival. They almost got it. But give Travis

1521
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 2: Steel's guy's credit, they got across the finish line thirty

1522
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 2: one to zero. I think they have to be in.

1523
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:21,719
Speaker 2: All right, Let's take a break, phone lines are open.

1524
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 2: What is your opinion? Good on the Bengals? Fran Cook

1525
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 2: Boye Mafe. Are you happy with that on day one

1526
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:36,959
Speaker 2: of legal tampering? Do you think that helps this defense

1527
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 2: get closer to where they need to be? Or I

1528
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 2: think they overpaid. I don't even know how you make

1529
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 2: that argument with those two guys. I think they were

1530
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 2: slotted about right. Are you happy with it? Are you

1531
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 2: not happy with it? Let us know? Five one, three, seven,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. We'll come back after this. This is the

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Speaker 2: Rolling right along hour number three. And by the way,

1546
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 2: the Reds are playing today, they're in the top of

1547
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 2: the fifth. They trail six to two to the A's

1548
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 2: Reet Louder had had a phenomenal start to the spring

1549
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 2: today not so much. Three point two innings, seven hits,

1550
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 2: five runs, three of them earned, four strikeouts four fifteen ERA.

1551
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 2: The Reds have a home run from JJ Bleday. He

1552
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 2: has four total bases. Matt McClain is leading off today.

1553
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:45,560
Speaker 2: He's got two hits. La Day's got to hit, Nathaniel

1554
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,719
Speaker 2: Lowe's got to hit. That's it so far. Fifteen night bats.

1555
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 2: The Reds have four hits. They have walked five times,

1556
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 2: but they haven't been able to do anything anything with it. Really,

1557
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 2: let's go out to the phones. Phil wants to talk

1558
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:05,719
Speaker 2: about the Bengals on day one of legal tampering, Phil,

1559
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 2: have you ever legally tampered with anything?

1560
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:10,559
Speaker 7: What's fun of that?

1561
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 2: I know, right, Like it's it's a contradiction. I'm just

1562
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 2: not down with, Like this is like.

1563
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 7: What what whatever legal tampering is? Like, Yeah, sure, you know,

1564
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 7: I think it was as good of a first page

1565
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 7: you can expect. I don't know if you follow like

1566
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 7: Bengals chatter on Facebook. There's a lot of twet there's

1567
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 7: a lot there's a lot of Facebook posts that did

1568
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,799
Speaker 7: not tweet well. And I'm always interested in the segment

1569
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,640
Speaker 7: of the fan base that expects five agents signing to

1570
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 7: twelve O one a legal tampering day. It's like, that's

1571
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 7: supertty interesting. But no, you got the best, you got

1572
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 7: the best safety on the market, and it's and it's

1573
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 7: gonna let it's gonna let Jordan battle play where he

1574
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:54,679
Speaker 7: feels most naturally at And Jordan Banna had a pretty

1575
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 7: good second half of the year last year.

1576
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:56,599
Speaker 3: He came along.

1577
01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 2: He did he started to figure it out.

1578
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then like I'm still in Aaron, It's like, so,

1579
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 7: I mean, Mafay is a third down specialist, but Trey

1580
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:13,240
Speaker 7: Henderson was a third down specialist who missed double bitgit

1581
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 7: games because of a bad back at age thirty two

1582
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 7: in one in thirty million dollars a year. I'll take

1583
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:22,760
Speaker 7: the younger, healthier guy every time in that situation.

1584
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a guy that did you did you see

1585
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 2: the heat? Were you listening a little bit earlier? When

1586
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:31,600
Speaker 2: I when I read the comparison from Hendrickson when he

1587
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 2: was coming from the Saints when they signed him in

1588
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:40,680
Speaker 2: free agency. The numbers are almost uh, Mafey had a

1589
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:44,759
Speaker 2: little bit better win rate and they were one apart

1590
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 2: in sacks, but Mafay had like fifty more pressures to

1591
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 2: this point in his career than Hendrickson had. So, I mean,

1592
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 2: you're taking a little bit of a gamble with the

1593
01:39:55,840 --> 01:40:00,400
Speaker 2: money you gave him, but you're getting a guy that

1594
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:05,559
Speaker 2: that fits pressure and getting the quarterback off his spot.

1595
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,599
Speaker 2: And that is just something that this Bengals team, outside

1596
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:11,679
Speaker 2: of Hendrickson, has not been able to do the quarterback.

1597
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it feels like a weekly thing with the

1598
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:18,360
Speaker 2: Bengals where the quarterback is just standing back there waiting

1599
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 2: for somebody to run open. And that's how you have

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01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 2: one of the worst defenses in the NFL year after year,

1601
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 2: is that quarterbacks aren't bothered. You have to get them

1602
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 2: off their spot, you have to get them out of

1603
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:33,679
Speaker 2: their rhythm, out of their comfort zone. The Bengals weren't

1604
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 2: good enough at that, and mafe gives you that.

1605
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,800
Speaker 7: No exactly, and I did hear that that's exactly the

1606
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:45,599
Speaker 7: perfect comparison for that. Now, since the Bengals have a

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01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:48,559
Speaker 7: really poor track record of a first round draft picks

1608
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 7: outside of the top five. Go ahead and trade that

1609
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 7: for Jalen Carter and just make sure they agent know

1610
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 7: that there's gonna be some kind of contract language where

1611
01:40:57,439 --> 01:41:02,719
Speaker 7: we spent a Dak Prescott before the game again been yeah,

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01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 7: you can disrupt the other side, don't disrupt our side.

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01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 2: It's one of the things Phil that frustrates me the

1614
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 2: most about the Bengals is that the front office willingly

1615
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 2: handicaps themselves because they will not participate in the trade

1616
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 2: market because they have such a high value on draft

1617
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:24,719
Speaker 2: picks that they're terrible using. You're not good at drafting,

1618
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 2: Like know your scouting report. You've got to know your

1619
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 2: own scouting report. It's one of my biggest lines in life.

1620
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 2: You got to know your own scouting report. The Bengals, unfortunately,

1621
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 2: think they are an excellent drafting franchise. They truly believe that,

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01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 2: and they will not let go of picks because they

1623
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:46,720
Speaker 2: think they're great at drafting. They'll move back in the

1624
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 2: second round every now and again to add a pick,

1625
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 2: but that also indicates they really believe, Like they walk

1626
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 2: out of that draft room every year. As hard as

1627
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 2: this is for you and me to believe Phil, they

1628
01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 2: walk out of that draft room every year, look at

1629
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 2: each other, the three of them, and go, nailed it. God,

1630
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:03,799
Speaker 2: we did a great job.

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01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 7: The three of them. Oh my gosh, you're saying, but no,

1632
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:10,639
Speaker 7: you're right, like I rent. You know why I rent

1633
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 7: because I don't know poop all about plumbing or electricity, right,

1634
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 7: you know, So it makes no sense for me to

1635
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 7: own the house unless I'm making up money, like pay

1636
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 7: somebody to do that. And so it's like and even

1637
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:26,599
Speaker 7: then I'd rather, I'd rather travel and call a landlord.

1638
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 7: Then yeah, well travel.

1639
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 2: It's it's it's a known commodity over over a lottery pick.

1640
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:39,879
Speaker 2: And look, I know like Jalen Carter, let's say Max Crosby.

1641
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 2: I know what he's about. I know that he's one

1642
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 2: of the best in the NFL. Two first round picks.

1643
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 2: Sign me up, sign me up?

1644
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Like, just think about Jalen Carter on third

1645
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:58,120
Speaker 7: down in the middle with Mafey.

1646
01:42:57,800 --> 01:42:58,919
Speaker 3: And right.

1647
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 8: On the edge.

1648
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 7: I mean, you could you could seriously rush free in

1649
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 7: that situation and.

1650
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:08,479
Speaker 2: Be like I feel good, move.

1651
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 7: Move cook up in the box and be like get

1652
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 7: the quarterback, decide run take them out.

1653
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I've never understood their their philosophy of

1654
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 2: just and it used to be they didn't even participate

1655
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 2: in free agency outside of you know, adding some depth

1656
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 2: and a couple like you know, second and third string

1657
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 2: guys at the end of free agency. They used to

1658
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 2: not they wouldn't trade picks, and they wouldn't participate in

1659
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 2: free agency, and the draft was their only real method

1660
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:43,360
Speaker 2: of player acquisition. You're tying both hands behind your back

1661
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 2: in the NFL if you're not gonna be willing to

1662
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 2: part with fifth and sixth and seventh rounders for known

1663
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 2: commodities in the NFL. It boggles my mind that they

1664
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 2: just won't do it.

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01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll say one more thing is then I'll sign

1666
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 7: off because it's not my show of yours. But if

1667
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 7: there is a defensive there's no defensive tackle that you

1668
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:10,639
Speaker 7: can draft from the first r and that's just good

1669
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 7: as Jalen Carter, that's the air in need. This is

1670
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 7: really simple. Go get the best player available with the

1671
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:19,519
Speaker 7: pick that you have, and that means you can trade

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01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 7: for him.

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01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 2: It's okay, Yeah, I don't know that he's actually on

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01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 2: the market. Thank you appreciate it, Phil, I don't know

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01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:32,000
Speaker 2: that he's actually on the market, but if you offer

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01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:36,600
Speaker 2: him enough, he probably is. I know teams would like

1677
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 2: to get him. I don't know how willing they're going

1678
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:41,840
Speaker 2: to be. The problem I guess I think I have

1679
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 2: there is I feel like the Eagles have the best

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01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 2: front office in the country, and I feel like you're

1681
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:52,680
Speaker 2: always going to lose a trade with Howie Rosen? Am

1682
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 2: I wrong for that? Tarn No. I'd be really happy

1683
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:58,600
Speaker 2: to get Jalen Carter, but I'd also be going, what

1684
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 2: am I missing? What am I missing? Because Howie Rosen

1685
01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 2: doesn't miss Let's take a break. Phone line still open.

1686
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:09,680
Speaker 2: We'll go back to him right after this. Since an

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Speaker 2: No, that's the truth. So U see fans felt this

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Speaker 2: weekend arran.

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Speaker 4: All on them.

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Speaker 2: It ain't all good. It is all on them. I

1706
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 2: was listening. I had The New Daylight on yesterday driving around,

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Speaker 2: such a good album.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I left my laptop at home, so I had

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Speaker 4: to go all g and ror today.

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Speaker 2: That's okay. You still did a good job. Still did

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Speaker 2: a good job. Are you going down to Atlanta with

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Speaker 2: the Hawks or Magic City Night?

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01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 3: No?

1714
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:56,840
Speaker 2: Did you see?

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01:46:56,880 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 13: That caused outrage? Terran people were especially canceled it. Did

1716
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 13: I did they? Seanap's just twet tweeted, they can't set

1717
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:08,760
Speaker 13: up in motion? Terrible f Lucal coordinator whatever his name is.

1718
01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, terrible. That could have been a field trip. There

1719
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 2: was sports related, so, like you know, we could have

1720
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 2: we could have worked it into content.

1721
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:23,679
Speaker 4: Maybe the Falcons I have one. When the Bengals play

1722
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 4: maybe maybe all right?

1723
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:31,759
Speaker 2: Speaking of the Bengals, let's go back out to the phones.

1724
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:34,559
Speaker 2: Brian and Hamilton. Brian, have you ever been to Magic City?

1725
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:36,599
Speaker 2: What do you think about the Wings?

1726
01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 3: I have not, but I heard they were good.

1727
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:41,839
Speaker 2: What's going on? Man?

1728
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 3: Hey? I would just wander. I had a I was

1729
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 3: looking at a list of addressers because you even said

1730
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 3: we need some depth on there. Yeah, And I was

1731
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 3: gonna ask you just a few of these guys, and

1732
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 3: you tell me if you take him or or not,

1733
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:00,720
Speaker 3: and I'll tell you how much you're getting paid too.

1734
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 2: Okay?

1735
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:04,760
Speaker 3: Uh, Dante Fowler.

1736
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 2: How much is he making?

1737
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 3: Uh? Six million?

1738
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:18,759
Speaker 2: Even I'd be interested, be interested. Six million's a reasonable number.

1739
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 3: What about God? What about uh Leonard Floyd? I don't know.

1740
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 2: I don't know on that one, Like I don't know

1741
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:39,080
Speaker 2: if the production matches, whatever the money would be. I

1742
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 2: know it would be a depth piece, but I'd at

1743
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:44,639
Speaker 2: least like to get a little bit more impact out

1744
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 2: of it.

1745
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 3: Okay, Uh what about the guy down there? His name's

1746
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 3: Devin Floyd and uh Jacksonville.

1747
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 2: I think did he sign today? Devin Lloyd?

1748
01:48:57,520 --> 01:48:58,439
Speaker 3: I didn't see it on here.

1749
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 2: He's not signed he's still out there for now. Yeah, yeah,

1750
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:07,960
Speaker 2: I mean I I I think he's probably gonna make

1751
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:13,160
Speaker 2: a little more than what they're going to be willing

1752
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 2: to pay. But that's a guy that two years ago

1753
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 2: he had over one hundred tackles. He was at what

1754
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:19,400
Speaker 2: eighty last year?

1755
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:27,360
Speaker 3: And you know his his partner as a free agent too,

1756
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 3: Emmanuel Ogabah ed Rusher. Yeah, and he's only three million.

1757
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 2: I mean he's older, right, I believe he's twenty eight,

1758
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 2: twenty six. That's that's around in the in the range

1759
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:45,960
Speaker 2: where the Bengals might look for some depth at at

1760
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:48,839
Speaker 2: three million a year like that, and that would probably

1761
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 2: be reasonable. Again, I think that's what.

1762
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:54,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you. What about the the what about

1763
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:58,479
Speaker 3: the Lions? Marcus Stavenport twenty nine? He only makes twenty

1764
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:00,880
Speaker 3: two million, five I've heard.

1765
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:03,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how much he's gonna help you.

1766
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 2: The price sounds good, but I don't know how much

1767
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 2: you're gonna get in.

1768
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 3: Terms of He was a decent player for the for

1769
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:13,560
Speaker 3: the Lions, though, isn't he?

1770
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:16,640
Speaker 2: Uh Yeah, But you're getting in that again the Bengals,

1771
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 2: if you're gonna go three year deal, they don't generally

1772
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 2: like to sign guys into their thirties, right.

1773
01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 3: I get it.

1774
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:25,360
Speaker 2: I mean it's just.

1775
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:32,120
Speaker 3: Right now, as of today, there is thirty two addressers

1776
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 3: on here.

1777
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's gonna be value that they're going to be

1778
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:38,520
Speaker 2: able to get for depth. That that's one of the

1779
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:41,760
Speaker 2: the important reasons why getting a guy like Cook and

1780
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:46,439
Speaker 2: getting a guy like Mafe does so much early in

1781
01:50:46,479 --> 01:50:50,519
Speaker 2: the process because now the rest of the board starts

1782
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 2: to fall into place. You know, you need a linebacker,

1783
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:57,640
Speaker 2: you know you need to tackle that they can get

1784
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:01,160
Speaker 2: up the field a little bit. But you know, you're

1785
01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:04,800
Speaker 2: pretty set on offense. So now you're you're looking at

1786
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 2: it more from a position of strength and not we

1787
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 2: have five, six seven holes we've got to fill and

1788
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:14,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna need two or three impact guys. You feel

1789
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:16,520
Speaker 2: like you got your impact guys.

1790
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 3: I'd love for him to get Baine or Styles.

1791
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:23,920
Speaker 2: I just I just don't either. Styles isn't gonna There's

1792
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 2: no way Styles is there at ten.

1793
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 3: Oh, but you wouldn't take Bain, I mean I would.

1794
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 2: I also think he's probably you know, the hope was

1795
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:38,760
Speaker 2: like during the college season, like maybe the size, the

1796
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:43,000
Speaker 2: arm length was gonna push him down the way he played,

1797
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know how he gets all the

1798
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:49,719
Speaker 2: way to ten. Downs is interesting because I think even

1799
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 2: with Cook like I think they could play together.

1800
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 3: I've seen, I've seen what they got. Downs he's going

1801
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:56,320
Speaker 3: number two or three.

1802
01:51:56,960 --> 01:51:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I that one's still to me.

1803
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:02,120
Speaker 10: I've seen I've seen styles at nine and ten.

1804
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:06,280
Speaker 2: That one's still to me. I think Downs is one

1805
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:08,519
Speaker 2: of the best players in the draft. Are team's really

1806
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 2: gonna spend a top three at top five pick on

1807
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 2: a safety? I just I have to see it to

1808
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 2: believe it. I think he's good enough to earn it.

1809
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:23,080
Speaker 2: But that's a lot of positional you know, the value

1810
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 2: is not what the market says it should be for that.

1811
01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:29,519
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be interesting to see, if you know,

1812
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:33,360
Speaker 2: as we continue through this process, if he stays up

1813
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 2: that high, or if teams start looking at it and saying,

1814
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:37,320
Speaker 2: I just don't know if I can. I think you

1815
01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:40,599
Speaker 2: can take a safety at ten. I think it's really

1816
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:42,599
Speaker 2: hard to take a safety at three or four.

1817
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:46,240
Speaker 3: Well, if Downs is there at ten, you have to take.

1818
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:48,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think any of those guys that

1819
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 2: they're there at ten, you have to take them.

1820
01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:54,120
Speaker 3: And then I was gonna say, if the styles was

1821
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 3: there still at eight or nine, I would think about

1822
01:52:57,240 --> 01:52:58,720
Speaker 3: the Bengals moving up to get him.

1823
01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 2: Look, if you've listened today, you know my feeling on that.

1824
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 2: Trade your picks and go do something with them, because

1825
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:10,639
Speaker 2: you're not good at him. So if you can go

1826
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:12,639
Speaker 2: up and get the guy you want. How many times

1827
01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:15,640
Speaker 2: have we heard over the past ten years, Oh, the

1828
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 2: Ravens got the guy the Bengals wanted right the pick

1829
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 2: before them, or the Stittsburgh Yeah, Pittsburgh got the guy

1830
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:25,280
Speaker 2: the Bengals wanted to pick before them. Like, go up

1831
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 2: and get your guy. If it costs you a fourth rounder,

1832
01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:29,800
Speaker 2: so be it.

1833
01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. If it's a one and a four or one

1834
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:34,479
Speaker 3: of the three and that's the guy you want, go

1835
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:34,840
Speaker 3: get it.

1836
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:38,679
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, if you've decided that that's where you want

1837
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:40,920
Speaker 2: to go, and that's where you think the most impact is,

1838
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 2: go get that guy. You don't have to sit on

1839
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,400
Speaker 2: your hands. Duke says he doesn't sit on his hands.

1840
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 2: I disagree. I think he sits on his hands quite

1841
01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 2: a bit. But go get your guy.

1842
01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 3: He better get some more players in this free agent

1843
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:58,120
Speaker 3: or I agree. I mean these two picks were great

1844
01:53:59,080 --> 01:53:59,679
Speaker 3: or not great.

1845
01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 2: I think they fit needs. I think they're good players

1846
01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 2: that fit needs. Like keep doing that right, Thanks man appreciated,

1847
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:18,240
Speaker 2: Brian Bye, Go get good players that phil needs. They

1848
01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 2: don't all have to be home runs. You can hit

1849
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:28,679
Speaker 2: some doubles and triples still score I'm tired of hitting singles.

1850
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:32,880
Speaker 2: Tired of hitting singles. But you can hit some doubles

1851
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:38,800
Speaker 2: and triples and still score runs. All right, that's gonna

1852
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 2: wrap it up. Tarren Moe is back tomorrow. Are you

1853
01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:41,720
Speaker 2: gonna miss me?

1854
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:44,879
Speaker 4: I will.

1855
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 2: I won't be gone long. I'll be back next Thursday

1856
01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:49,839
Speaker 2: and Friday for the first two days of the NCAA tournament.

1857
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:51,960
Speaker 4: But tomorrow is gonna be fun with Moby and I

1858
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:53,240
Speaker 4: want to say the time as you see it.

1859
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 2: Will be here for that. I'm Chad Brendle Mo Eggers

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