WEBVTT - Ken Broo Saturday -- 1/17/26

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<v Speaker 1>Now your host Ken Brew on news radio seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>WLW Go Big or Go Home?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever heard of that one? I think I

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<v Speaker 2>just heard that, and that's that promo spot for the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL games, well something to that effect. Welcome on in.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a truncated look that word of kids version of

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<v Speaker 2>the full can Brew Saturday experience. We are going to

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<v Speaker 2>UC basketball at one thirty today as those Bearcats get

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<v Speaker 2>ready to take on the number two team in America,

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<v Speaker 2>Iowa State. And that is live and direct from the

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<v Speaker 2>on seven hundred WLW with Dan Horde and Terry Nelson courtside.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe Moe Egger is with them as well, so

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<v Speaker 2>it will be a three headed attack right here on

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred WLW. What a week it's been. Riots in Minneapolis.

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<v Speaker 2>The United States still wants to go after Greenland. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>we have the Venezuela blockade, and somehow, some way that

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<v Speaker 2>country is functioning after its president has been absconded and

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<v Speaker 2>brought back to the United States. Iran is rearing its

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<v Speaker 2>ugly head again, and of course it never goes away.

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<v Speaker 2>In Israel and the Gaza strip. Oh, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>Putin and Zelensky and Russia and the Ukraine. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot percolating around this world right now. And when

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<v Speaker 2>a lot starts to percolate around this world, I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to one person, and one person only. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a hot rumor going around that if the United

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<v Speaker 2>States somehow, some way makes Greenland the fifty first state

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States, there's a hot rumor going around,

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<v Speaker 2>a rumor, of course, which I started, that the governor

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<v Speaker 2>of the great state, the fifty first state of Greenland

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be my next guest, and he, of

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<v Speaker 2>course is the great politician in waiting, and perhaps someday,

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<v Speaker 2>someday soon may come back. Who knows. Jim Ridece standing

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<v Speaker 2>by to join us, and Jim, how are you on

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<v Speaker 2>this glorious Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I am good, Ken. How about yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing well. Now. There's a hot rumor going around

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<v Speaker 2>that when the President annexes ice Greenland, I'm sorry to

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<v Speaker 2>be our fifty first state, that you will be tapped

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<v Speaker 2>to be the governor of Greenland. Is there any truth

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<v Speaker 2>to this rumor?

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<v Speaker 4>Jim?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Ken, there is absolutely no truth, Because I like

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<v Speaker 3>to get away from the cold.

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<v Speaker 2>I do call yeah if you like. If you like cold,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to go to Greenland. You stay in

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio for January and February. Look, there's a lot that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of saber rattling here. I think Trump has

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<v Speaker 2>three options. He can invade Greenland and take it. He

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<v Speaker 2>can buy Greenland, much like we did with Alaska all

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<v Speaker 2>those years ago. Or he could work with Greenland to

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<v Speaker 2>try and get what he really wants. What I think

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<v Speaker 2>is a stronger base there from a military standpoint, and

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<v Speaker 2>the middle roles that are indigenous to Greenland. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's probably the option that's at play here. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Trump wants to rattle the sort a little bit and

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<v Speaker 2>get everybody on their toes and in the end get

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<v Speaker 2>his best deal. Am I reading this situation wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when it comes to President Trumps, you're probably reading

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<v Speaker 3>it properly. I just in some ways I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 3>if he needs to rattle the sorts as much as

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<v Speaker 3>he is. I mean, we already control the airspace in Greenland.

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<v Speaker 3>We already have the only military base in Greenland. We

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<v Speaker 3>already have an agreement with NATO that says we will

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<v Speaker 3>always work and protect Greenland and they will work with us.

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<v Speaker 3>So right now we have all of that. Would it

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<v Speaker 3>be great to own or control or have Greenland's part

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<v Speaker 3>of the United States for security interests, Sure, but it'd

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<v Speaker 3>probably be good to have Mexico and South America and

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<v Speaker 3>Canada and everybody else too. But they don't want to come,

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<v Speaker 3>and we shouldn't push them if they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is thinking too small. Here is what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>It shouldn't it shouldn't just be agreeing with it. But

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<v Speaker 2>what I what I find interesting about about all of this,

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<v Speaker 2>and again I sometimes I'm too much of a conspiracy theorist,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think he's trying to keep NATO on its toes.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is a direct message to China, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think in the end he's going to get what

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<v Speaker 2>he wants. But it sure was funny this week to

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<v Speaker 2>see all of these European nations decide they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>send their troops, their aircraft or whatever to to Greenland

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<v Speaker 2>for some exercises. He got everybody's attention, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>might have been part of his game too.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, of course, But look, one thing I don't understand

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<v Speaker 3>about President Trump, But again I do know he has

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<v Speaker 3>a unique way of doing things. It's kind of tough

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<v Speaker 3>when you're rattling the savors of your friends, because when

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<v Speaker 3>your friends become your enemies, you have more problems. So

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes I just wish he would do things a little different,

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<v Speaker 3>be a little bit more diplomatic. I know he's not

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<v Speaker 3>a politician. That's good, but yeah, I always get concerned

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<v Speaker 3>the way we kind of rattle things up, especially when

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<v Speaker 3>they're your friends.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't and I'm torn here because I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if he knows there's a line he can walk to

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<v Speaker 2>and then that's it. It's it's it's not going to happen,

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<v Speaker 2>much as his rhetoric now is with Iran. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he again he's got an aircraft carrier in that part

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<v Speaker 2>of the world, and it sounds like there could be

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<v Speaker 2>something done if that country and that particular dictatorship continues

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<v Speaker 2>to do what he does. I'm not sure if he

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<v Speaker 2>knows that there's a line there that he can't cross,

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<v Speaker 2>or there's some people, somebodies pulling him back and in

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<v Speaker 2>his ear saying you know, you really can't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a good idea. I wonder if he just

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<v Speaker 2>has the right people in his ear around him right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know as subjective thinking and it's just conjecture,

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<v Speaker 2>but do you think he does.

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I've said this all along. In his first presidency, he

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<v Speaker 3>had a lot of good people around him, and they

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<v Speaker 3>would question what he was doing. They would tell him, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you really can't do that. He would fire some of

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<v Speaker 3>those people because he didn't like their answers. But now

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<v Speaker 3>he has people around him who will not question anything

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<v Speaker 3>he's doing. I think he has a weaker group of

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<v Speaker 3>people around him, and I think that's part of the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Ken always said, my success and many success

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<v Speaker 3>of many people is because you have good, strong people

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<v Speaker 3>around you. I'm afraid the president does not have that

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<v Speaker 3>around him today. So he actually moves much further toward

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<v Speaker 3>that line that you're talking about than he would have

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<v Speaker 3>in the past. He does have presidential immunity now that

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<v Speaker 3>the Supreme Court has given him that, which is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of trusting because that means he's given you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>another topic, but again he's given President Clint presidential amusity too,

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of things that they're going after him

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<v Speaker 3>for as well. So I think that my biggest concern

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<v Speaker 3>is that line you're talking about, there's going to come

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<v Speaker 3>a time where somebody's going to punch back when he

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<v Speaker 3>crosses that line. And that's what I fear more than anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we seem to have our nose in a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of different places. Iran now apparently is the is the

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<v Speaker 2>latest we've been to Venezuela. We apparently now have taken

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<v Speaker 2>over Venezuela. China I think is lurking in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the back. You know, there's a theory, Jim, that that

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<v Speaker 2>China has a grand plan that what they want is

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<v Speaker 2>the United States on a three pronged mission in different

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<v Speaker 2>parts of the world, and then China can pounce on

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<v Speaker 2>Taiwan and take Taiwan. I just think that there's just

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<v Speaker 2>there's got to be a number, a definite number of

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<v Speaker 2>the places you can be at one time time as

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<v Speaker 2>the big brother, or it comes back and it gets

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<v Speaker 2>the big brother. And it sounds like that's what you

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<v Speaker 2>meant when you just answered that last question. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>what you mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure? And you got Russia out looking at some things too,

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<v Speaker 3>you got China looking at some things. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 3>is all problematic. And then you got a real hotbed

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<v Speaker 3>in the Middle East where you have. You know, all

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<v Speaker 3>these warships sitting around, and that's a hotbed in the

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<v Speaker 3>sense that you start to go into one of those

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<v Speaker 3>countries and you could cause a whole bunch of backlash

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<v Speaker 3>between all the countries around you. So and then you

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<v Speaker 3>really have a mess over there as well.

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<v Speaker 6>But I would agree with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, China's looking at all this and say, hey, keep

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<v Speaker 3>doing what you're doing. We're going to get Taiwan. We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to you know, you almost wonder if they're not

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<v Speaker 3>driving the train it's causing some of this to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>That's going on with President.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump twenty ten. You're in Congress and you were your party,

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<v Speaker 2>the Republican Party was not the party in power. It

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<v Speaker 2>was during Obama's first administration. I'm just wondering, now, if

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<v Speaker 2>you placed yourself in Washington, d C. The last place

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<v Speaker 2>on Earth it sounds like you want to be, But

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<v Speaker 2>if you placed yourself there in the minority, if you

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<v Speaker 2>were a Democrat, for example, in Washington, d C. And

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<v Speaker 2>all of this is going on, it has to be

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<v Speaker 2>driving you crazy because you have very little input at

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<v Speaker 2>all on any of this. So I'm just wondering, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you think this factors into what the Democrats and

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<v Speaker 2>their strategy will be going forward with all of these

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<v Speaker 2>international incidents that they seem to have no ability to

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<v Speaker 2>get involved with.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, look, if I was advising the Democrats, and I'm not,

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<v Speaker 3>but if I was, I would tell them, I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>just let President Trump continue to do what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Let him continue to make the decisions he's making, because

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<v Speaker 3>the American people, I mean, there's a pole out today.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I know it's CNN, and people say, oh, it's CNN,

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<v Speaker 3>but sixty percent are saying that Trump's first.

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<v Speaker 2>Year was a failure.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know that's a problem. So let's, you know, again,

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<v Speaker 3>let him just continue to Now the problem with the

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats is they can't keep their mouths shut either, and

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<v Speaker 3>they cause themselves their own problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now you're right, and it's the same. It's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>either side, it's the usual suspects you see on the

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<v Speaker 2>cable shows every night. It's the same people running to

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<v Speaker 2>the television lights. Jimmer and ac our guests. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>we got a situation in Minnesota that is again reaching

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<v Speaker 2>new boiling points every day. Leaving aside the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>an ICE agent, some say in self defense it would

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<v Speaker 2>appear to be that he was in some sort of jeopardy,

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<v Speaker 2>fired his gun and killed a woman who was an

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<v Speaker 2>agitator behind the wheel of a car. Leave the incident

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<v Speaker 2>to the side, just per second. There is a real case,

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<v Speaker 2>I think for Trump invoking the Insurrection Act. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>people will say, well, that's an act that goes back

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<v Speaker 2>to the eighteen hundreds. Well, sure, but there's been thirty

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<v Speaker 2>instances where Republican and Democrat presidents have invoked the Insurrection

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<v Speaker 2>Act just to get calm on the streets and protect

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<v Speaker 2>the innocent people whom I sure don't want that going

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<v Speaker 2>on in their town. To protect them. If you were

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<v Speaker 2>the president, knowing what has transpired there, would you invoke

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<v Speaker 2>the Direction Act the Insurrection Act?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, again, as president, I think the problem is he

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<v Speaker 3>has no relationship with state, no relationship with the governor,

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<v Speaker 3>no relationship with the with the mayor. So there is

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<v Speaker 3>a real issue there which is driving up We'll drive

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<v Speaker 3>up even more attention if he does use the Insurrection Act.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think we need we need to get

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<v Speaker 3>the town under control, and I think the president should

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<v Speaker 3>use whatever power he believes is necessary. But at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time, he's got to be extremely careful because I

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<v Speaker 3>think the way the incident occurred, and again, as you said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I think all the facts still have to come out,

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<v Speaker 3>whether whether the individuals should have been shot not shot,

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<v Speaker 3>and even if there was a use of deadly force

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<v Speaker 3>because the individual believed he was being you know, could

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<v Speaker 3>have been killed by the car. I wish that it

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<v Speaker 3>would have just been handled in a way that we

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<v Speaker 3>would have said, hey, look, this is a terrible incident.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to do a full review and make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that what happened doesn't occur again. If not necessary, whatever, however,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to explain it because if you use the

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<v Speaker 3>insurrection in it, it could be multiple of those incidents.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've just got to be careful. That's what I

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<v Speaker 3>fear more than anything, that the flame it's already, but

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<v Speaker 3>we use the insurrection and it explodes, and it explodes

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<v Speaker 3>back in the face of the president, not in the

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<v Speaker 3>face of the protesters. That's the problem that I fear.

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<v Speaker 2>These are well funded and well organized protests. This isn't

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of people that just decided to come out

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<v Speaker 2>of their homes and yell and scream in the streets

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<v Speaker 2>in Minneapolis weather, which is not very good at this

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<v Speaker 2>time of the year. These are well funded, well organized

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<v Speaker 2>protests that are going on there in Minnesota. It strikes

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<v Speaker 2>me a little bit about twenty twenty when we had

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<v Speaker 2>the George Floyd riot that encapsulated Minnesota. Different circumstance, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but similar in the sense that it was an election year.

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<v Speaker 2>This seems to be almost a left wing game plan

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<v Speaker 2>is that when you've got an election coming up and

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<v Speaker 2>you're not the party in power, let's just stir it

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<v Speaker 2>up and show that this country is totally out of control,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly under Donald Trump. I don't know if that's cynical,

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<v Speaker 2>but it sure seems to be that's what the game

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<v Speaker 2>plan is here at Jim, what do you think, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>remember what I said earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>If I was advising the Democrats, I would let the

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<v Speaker 3>president continue to.

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<v Speaker 6>Do what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I probably should have added, and I would have accelerated

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<v Speaker 3>the problems that he could have in the November election.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's probably right. That's exactly what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>They believe this is a winning situation to him. They

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<v Speaker 3>believe that the president has so if you look at polling,

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<v Speaker 3>it does say that everybody wants criminals and illegals to

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<v Speaker 3>be sent back, but it doesn't say in many cases,

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<v Speaker 3>to do what the president's doing to get it done.

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<v Speaker 3>So the polling shows, yes, we want it done, No,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't like what you're doing with the president, seventy

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<v Speaker 3>eight percent say that. So you know, again, these are

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<v Speaker 3>the things that if you're a Democrat and you want

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<v Speaker 3>to win in November, you just continue to flame these

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<v Speaker 3>ones up or you know, people are not happy with's

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<v Speaker 3>what the president is doing. But at the same time

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to watch that you don't flame it up

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<v Speaker 3>so much that people say, well, wait a minute, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't like what you're doing either.

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<v Speaker 2>The people that are going after it would seem are

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<v Speaker 2>people that shouldn't be let loose in the country they

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<v Speaker 2>came from. I mean, this whole thing with the Laotians

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<v Speaker 2>that developed this week and what we know about people

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<v Speaker 2>from South America and what they've come and done in

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<v Speaker 2>this country and before they got it, they shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>here in the first place. So I guess is the

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<v Speaker 2>conundrum is, sure, you've got to be careful about how

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<v Speaker 2>you go in and do this, but on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 2>if you leave these people that are in this country

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<v Speaker 2>that Joe Biden left in to do god knows what

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<v Speaker 2>once they're here. I think that's that's his problem. He

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<v Speaker 2>campaigned on getting these people out of here, and Jen,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, I want him out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want these people that have done things in

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<v Speaker 2>their own country that are important, abhor it and and

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<v Speaker 2>illegal and criminal. I don't want them here either. But

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<v Speaker 2>how do you go in and do that without getting

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<v Speaker 2>what they're getting in Minneapolis right now, or what they'll

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<v Speaker 2>get in Boston, or what they'll surely get in places

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<v Speaker 2>like Chicago when they go in there and try and

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<v Speaker 2>do it. I don't know how you thread that needle,

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<v Speaker 2>do you well? It's difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, I think the polling and I

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<v Speaker 3>would agree with you seventy five to eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 3>the people one hundred percent agree with you. The people

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<v Speaker 3>that came here illegally, the people that are dangerous, we

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<v Speaker 3>want them out of here, We want them sent back.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm going to give you a story of an

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<v Speaker 3>individual in Wayne County, Ohio, has been here for twenty

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<v Speaker 3>eight years, came here from Laos at the age of

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<v Speaker 3>three or four. I believe he knows nobody back in

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<v Speaker 3>Laos now. But he did get married. He has four children.

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<v Speaker 3>The four children are going right, He has a great job.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a welder, and he got taken and sent

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<v Speaker 3>back to Laos. And the question is how did he

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<v Speaker 3>get pulled and taken back? And the reason was is

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<v Speaker 3>because he had a felony. There was a gun at

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<v Speaker 3>his girlfriend's house, not his current wife, his girlfriend's house

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<v Speaker 3>twenty some years ago and he ended up with a

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<v Speaker 3>low level felony. Well, they took him too, So I

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<v Speaker 3>use that as an example of yes, we got to

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<v Speaker 3>get that bad people out of here. But this guy

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<v Speaker 3>who's contributing to the society has four children and a

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<v Speaker 3>wife who now, by the way, will be on our

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<v Speaker 3>medicaid system because she can't afford to maintain the kids

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<v Speaker 3>and the house and everything here. And they know nobody

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<v Speaker 3>back in LuSE. I mean, think about those situations, and

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<v Speaker 3>those are the ones that we have to be very

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<v Speaker 3>careful on.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the ones that if you're a Republican, those

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<v Speaker 2>are the ones that the Democrats ad seize on. So

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<v Speaker 2>you've got the political implications, let alone the fairness of

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to the individual that you just cited by

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<v Speaker 2>the way. We're getting a lot of feedback here, Jim.

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<v Speaker 2>During this interview about Jim or Acy, governor of Greenland.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there could be a grassroots movement building here, Jim.

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<v Speaker 2>We might have started something here. Can you confirm or

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<v Speaker 2>deny that you've already got a campaign in place that

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<v Speaker 2>there you've hired people for this? Is this true?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, maybe that's the people that want to get rid

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<v Speaker 3>of the can. That's all the people that are afraid

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to run for gallaner of Ohio and afraid

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to run for something else.

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<v Speaker 2>They want me here. Good, keep them on their toes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for sure. Good catching up with you, Jim. Stay well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know we'll visit down the road. Thanks, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a good tanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you bet well. No purchase of Greenland yet and

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<v Speaker 2>no insurrection clause invoked yet in what is still a

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<v Speaker 2>tinder box in Minneapolis. Stand by, We're on top of

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<v Speaker 2>all of it. On seven hundred w l W twelve

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<v Speaker 2>thirty nine on this Saturday, after shortened version of the

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<v Speaker 2>show coming up at one thirty, we go to fifth

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<v Speaker 2>Third Arena, the number two team in the country, Iowa

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<v Speaker 2>State in town to take on the UC Bearcats. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of college basketball that is uh circling

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<v Speaker 2>the tri status we like to say, circling the try

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<v Speaker 2>status we like to see. You know, I mentioned it

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<v Speaker 2>was twelve thirty nine, but as you and I both know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's five o'clock somewhere. It's one for you, one for me,

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<v Speaker 2>It's one for the ages right there. They always give

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<v Speaker 2>me the good stuff top again. Yes, yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>sing it, aj.

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<v Speaker 1>I've just got time for one more round.

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<v Speaker 2>Shut them up, my briend. Yeah, what happens after that?

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<v Speaker 1>Then now be gone and you can let some other

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<v Speaker 1>food sit down.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, you never hear people say? Sing that

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<v Speaker 2>song again? Ken, I just saw Alan Jackson, who's not

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<v Speaker 2>in good health and has not been for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>is going to do his his final concert in Nashville.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it's July fourth weekend and it's an all

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<v Speaker 2>star show, a lot of big country acts down there

0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:15.159
<v Speaker 2>at the Nissan Stadium where the Tennessee Titans play, and

0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:20.920
<v Speaker 2>it's sold out, hard sellout. Coming up top of the hour,

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<v Speaker 2>Mason Cameron profootballfocus dot Com will break down the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>weekend games, now down to four games, two today too. Tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Basketball this afternoon, Number twenty four, Tennessee at home against

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<v Speaker 2>the UK Wildcats. About four and a half to go

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<v Speaker 2>first half and Tennessee is up thirty eight to twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Top of the hour we have. I think there are

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<v Speaker 2>only three unbeaten teams in the country right now, one

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<v Speaker 2>of which is the Miami RedHawks. They are eighteen in all,

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<v Speaker 2>and Miami gets Buffalo today for a one o'clock tip

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<v Speaker 2>at Molett and Travis Steele was talking just the other

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<v Speaker 2>day about his team and why it's red hot.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even know how many games we've won in

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<v Speaker 4>a row here at home, but we've got a great

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:09.920
<v Speaker 4>winning streak here at home. We obviously have a good

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<v Speaker 4>record right now or off to a tremendous start, which

0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.520
<v Speaker 4>is great for our university. The exposure that it's getting

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<v Speaker 4>and the attension and then exposure and the attention that

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<v Speaker 4>our men's basketball program and our players are getting. They

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<v Speaker 4>deserve it. And listen, we got really good players, but

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<v Speaker 4>they're better human beings and that's what I'm more proud

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<v Speaker 4>of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've won eleven straight at Molett this season, eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>and er unbeaten, taking on Buffalo top of the hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Up there we have Robert Morris against NKU tonight at seven.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a matchup that drew some headlines this week for

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong reasons. Robert Morris at NKU seven o'clock tip

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<v Speaker 2>tonight over at Northern Kentucky University. And as I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>you see tips off at one thirty today against I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>two o'clock today again number two Iowa State. Airtime is

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<v Speaker 2>one thirty here on seven hundred at W well W.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the the fan base is a little split

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<v Speaker 2>right now. To be kind on Wes Miller and whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not he survives the rest of this season, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. He could stand to win today against Iowa

0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:22.480
<v Speaker 2>State on the heels of beating Colorado the other night.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was at that Colorado game where let's just say,

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<v Speaker 2>the fan base was a little restless. Ultimately it worked

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<v Speaker 2>out for everybody. There was the win over the Buffaloes.

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<v Speaker 2>But after the game, Midder was talking about just the

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<v Speaker 2>whole situation. You know, you hear booze, you hear cheers,

0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:45.879
<v Speaker 2>and anyway, here's Milber afterwards, there's so much support.

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<v Speaker 7>That's what I focus on, you know, I think the

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<v Speaker 7>guys feel support. I think they feel the cheers, and

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<v Speaker 7>we're at a place where the expectations are really high,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, because of what's happened here, you know, over

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<v Speaker 7>such a long period of time. We all came here

0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:03.520
<v Speaker 7>because of that. But to talk just about that takes

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<v Speaker 7>away from all the people that there's almost ten thousand

0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 7>people there tonight and there's a lot of people cheering

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<v Speaker 7>and support, and I think that's that's the part that

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<v Speaker 7>I think we all appreciate.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Like I said, he could stand a win today.

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<v Speaker 2>The second team in the country, Iowa State at Fifth

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<v Speaker 2>Third Arena, and of course we have the four NFL

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<v Speaker 2>games this weekend. Redsfest is at the Convention Center downtown

0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:30.679
<v Speaker 2>and that is wrapping up later on this afternoon. So

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:33.320
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot flying around. There's no question about it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're somebody who has returned to the office in

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<v Speaker 2>light of the you know, these companies they pay big

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<v Speaker 2>dollars for these buildings that they house their their businesses in,

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<v Speaker 2>or they pay a big rent on these on these

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<v Speaker 2>particular buildings, and they want their employees back because they

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<v Speaker 2>have to justify to their board or shareholders or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>why they're in this building first place. There are some

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:04.880
<v Speaker 2>employees that are holding out. They said, no, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to do that. I think I've been here long enough.

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Aaron the right to work remotely at least part of

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<v Speaker 2>well then that's an easy way perhaps to get called

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<v Speaker 2>on the old HR carpet. Standing by the way in

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<v Speaker 2>on all of this, I love this. She first herself

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<v Speaker 2>as a chapreneur, not an entrepreneur, but a chipreneur, A strategist.

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<v Speaker 2>Suzanne Castle. She's a podcaster, She's a cheerleader for ambitious women,

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<v Speaker 2>leadership trainer, and somebody that wants to put sparkle back

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<v Speaker 2>in you and your company. She's all about sparkle. I

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<v Speaker 2>love it. But she's also somebody that knows there are

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<v Speaker 2>new ways that could make you miserable if you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to cheat the company. Let's bring her on in. She's

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<v Speaker 2>kind enough to give us some of her time here

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<v Speaker 2>on seven hundred a WYLW Today. Suzanne Castle, how are

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 2>you on this glorious day?

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<v Speaker 5>I am fabulous. Thank you so much for having me today.

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm excited we're talking about this.

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<v Speaker 2>I am too, because if I work for somebody who

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 2>was monitoring me and watching my every move and try

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 2>to determine if I'm an effective employee, I'd probably freak

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 2>out because what is enough what is not enough? Is

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:55.439
<v Speaker 2>enough something that is only going to get you to

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow or is it something else that gets you past

0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:01.639
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow and into the future. I'm confused. How does all

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 2>of this work?

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<v Speaker 5>You know? I think surveillance doesn't create productivity, and I

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 5>think that's the problem here. Trust and clarity and outcomes

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 5>I think are what moves people. And technology is making

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:18.199
<v Speaker 5>monitoring easier, but I believe it easier doesn't mean smarter,

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:21.680
<v Speaker 5>and so I think employers have a really interesting line

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 5>to be dancing right now, and I know if I

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 5>was feeling watched like you said, instead of trusted, my

0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 5>performance might drop. Because anxiety is going to range a

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 5>little bit. There's probably definitely going to be lower retention,

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 5>especially among your high performers. And I don't know that

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 5>I want to work for a person who has a

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 5>culture of compliance instead of ownership. That's just not the

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 5>world that we're living in anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering, and you may not have an answer. I

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 2>certainly don't, but I wonder if there are state by

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 2>state laws that will have to be addressed if indeed

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 2>an employer is doing this, because basically it's surveillance. In

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:01.119
<v Speaker 2>some of these states have very strict laws against surveillance,

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 2>whether it be on the job or in personal life.

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm just wondering. Is there a legal hurdle that has

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 2>to be crossed here?

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 5>Well, I do think there is, and I think it's

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 5>narrower though than some people think. So, you know, I

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:18.959
<v Speaker 5>feel like, you know, employees want to have the expectation

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 5>of privacy at work, and they should expect privacy in

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 5>their personal spaces and personal accounts, but honestly, they should

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 5>expect limited privacy if you have an employer owned system.

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 5>So the responsibility is on employers to try to clearly

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 5>define that boundary. And I think that's where the confusion is,

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 5>because confusion is what's creating fear about this, and so

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:45.439
<v Speaker 5>that's why policies matter, in oversights matter. But you have

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.199
<v Speaker 5>to be very very careful about how you're communicating this

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 5>so you're not scaring your employees. Communication is team here.

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 2>So the employee surveillance business, it's a cottage industry, but

0:27:56.359 --> 0:28:00.200
<v Speaker 2>it's really exploded since COVID. Since Marts of twenty twenty one,

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people either chose to or were given

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 2>the right to work at home, and of course a

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:07.479
<v Speaker 2>lot of companies, as you well know, have ended that

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:11.439
<v Speaker 2>they need employees back in the office. But nevertheless, if

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 2>you're working at home, at least initially I found during COVID,

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 2>there were ways that you could game the system. You'd

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 2>move the mouse on your computer maybe every ninety seconds

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 2>or so, or you made it look like you were

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 2>doing something with keystrokes. But I think the technology now

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 2>has gone past that, has it not. I mean, it's

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:35.160
<v Speaker 2>gotten better and employers can now figure out if you're

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 2>just sitting there doodling or if indeed you are working,

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 2>am I right about that?

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<v Speaker 5>You are definitely right. There's AI and behavioral analytics that

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 5>have hit the marketplace, and these emerging tools, they're analyzing

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 5>patterns rather than single actions. So an example is AI

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 5>can flag low engagement and then tell an employer there's

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 5>risk behaviors happening. They can do predictive attrition or productivity scoring.

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 5>And so now as an employer, I would say, this

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 5>is giving me insight. I need to intervene, I need

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 5>to coach here. But the concern for employee obviously is

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 5>there's automated judgment like I'm a human, like something might

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 5>have been going on. And so the AI race is

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 5>also affecting these tools that employers can use to monitor

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 5>their employees. And that monitoring, you know, from periodic screenshots

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 5>to webcam activation indicators. It's real, and it's big, and

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 5>it's almost on every single divid So.

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 2>In essence, this surveillance equipment can take over whatever laptop

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 2>or computer that you're using. It can take a screencap

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 2>of what you're actually doing.

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 5>Correct, that's correct. And there's also even location and network

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 5>based tracking, so that can infer where the employee is

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 5>based on their network connection because the Wi Fi based

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 5>location has a detector. There's bad swipes, there's device proximity tools,

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 5>and so there's really blurred boundaries for hybrid workers and

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 5>people working at home. When employer thinks you're sitting at

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:06.959
<v Speaker 5>your home office that we've set up and they're actually

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 5>taking call it starbuss, that's where that presence data and

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:14.479
<v Speaker 5>performance data metric gets really really blurry and really really murky.

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Wow. So you know, again, I suppose all of this

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 2>is tied to money. You mentioned AI. You know, companies

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 2>are sitting there and they're saying, ah, well, look at Joe.

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Joe scores real low. Does Joe do a job that

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 2>AI might be able to replace? You know? The answer

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 2>to every question in life, I think is money, And

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 2>this is probably what this is all about. How can

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 2>we save money with perhaps this AI product and not

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 2>have to worry about this guy health benefits or whatever

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 2>else we have to do to keep him here as

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 2>an employee. It's AI really is at the root of

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 2>all of this, is it not?

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 5>Well, I think the technology line is that is that

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 5>the crux of this And so when I am advising CEOs,

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 5>right now I'm telling them things like, decide what you

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 5>value first before you choose the tool, because if you

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 5>value trust, then you're going to design your environment for trust.

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 5>If you value outcomes, you're going to tend towards technology

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 5>that measure that. And I think the culture of any

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 5>place you work is showing up in what you track,

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 5>So that's where the money is flowing. So whatever technology

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 5>companies are using, that's a culture marker. It's also a

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 5>leadership marker. But I do think it's money driven for sure,

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 5>because what you're measuring is shaping the behavior. Though, and

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 5>I think the better question, at least that I'm asking

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 5>is how leaders use these tools, not whether or not

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 5>they're going to exist, because they're just going to exist,

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 5>so we have to figure out how to use them

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 5>ethically and morally.

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 2>I believe is this surveillance. Is it being used for

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 2>people that are actually in the building and on the job?

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean with a large company. I'm not suggesting these

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 2>companies do that, but a large company like IBM, for example,

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 2>would they use it for on the job and remote?

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 5>Oh? Absolutely? I mean you think about bad access blogs.

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 5>There's smart cameras and sensors and offices. There's even desk

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 5>occupancy tracking. So employers are bringing it like we're planning

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 5>out our space for security. But you know, the concern

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 5>is there's constant visibility. You're constantly being monitored, and I

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 5>do think that that has some serious repercussions on mental

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 5>health and burnout. If people think, oh, I am constantly,

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, being watched for what I'm doing. I'm not

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 5>sure that productivity is going to rise to meet that.

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 5>In fact, I think that's just going to cause a problem.

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 2>So if you go on a job interview at a

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 2>company and this company has this surveillance equipment, I would

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 2>think the company would have to tell the perspective employee, Look,

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 2>this is what we do. This is a business practice

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 2>we have. It's not that we don't trust you, it's

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 2>just that we do this so we can keep tabs

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>and what our employers are doing. But I think I

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 2>think the company's got to be upfront about this, right.

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 5>Oh sure, And if I was an employee, I would

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 5>be asking, Hi, what data's collected, who is seeing that data?

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 5>How long are you storing this data? How will it

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 5>be used in evaluation? That's where the transparency is going

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 5>to come in and that's going to build safety and

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 5>it is absolutely incumbent upon an employers say here is

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 5>what we're doing, and we want you to know how

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 5>we're using it. So both of those things have to

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 5>be true. And as an employee you should advocate for

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.239
<v Speaker 5>yourself and as an employer you need to communicate with

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 5>your people. It all comes down to communication.

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 2>So is who is seeing this? I mean, if a

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 2>company puts this in, is it is it like you know,

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Montgomery burn sitting in the corner suite and he's got

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 2>these monitors in front of him and he's looking for

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 2>somebody that's not working well and go get this guy

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 2>excellent Smithers. You know, Is it like that or is

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 2>does it go to some sort of monitoring system and

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 2>then the monitoring system alerts the company, Hey, this is

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 2>what's going on with with weekly or monthly reports. How

0:33:57.680 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 2>does it work well?

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 5>I think large companies that the information is being aggregated,

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 5>so every company is choosing how they use it. Where

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 5>I'm seeing most of it is if there's flags that

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 5>rise up. So again, like an AI tool is analy

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 5>analyzing a pattern, so if it sees over ten days,

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:20.800
<v Speaker 5>then an employee might get flagged. I am not seeing

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 5>the constant monitoring, like every twenty four hours someone is

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.319
<v Speaker 5>looking at this data. It's more in aggregate. But I'm

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 5>also seeing how this is compiled even quarterly for employee

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 5>evaluation and so that you know, I do think so

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 5>there's there's that process. Silence feels like spying to me.

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 5>I'll just be honest. So I am just saying, please

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 5>ask what is happening. What are you using? What kind

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 5>of things are you using when you monitor me and

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 5>when you're evaluating my performance? I think that's what the

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 5>sensitivity is.

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think so too. I think you've got

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:57.320
<v Speaker 2>you've got a temper. And Suzanne Castle is our guest.

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 2>She's the author of the Sparkle Effect. Ten powerful concepts

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:05.280
<v Speaker 2>to awaken your brilliance. Don't you have to have brilliance

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 2>to awaken it? What about the poor soul that's out

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 2>there that has no brilliance? Where's your book for that person?

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 2>Come on, Susanne, I.

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:15.399
<v Speaker 5>Did write that. I wrote that for everybody. I think

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:17.399
<v Speaker 5>we all need a little more brilliance in our day

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 5>and to be reminded that we are brilliant. I think

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 5>every human is brilliant in their own way.

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, is this pretty much the wave of the future,

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:26.759
<v Speaker 2>because you know, the OG and me would say, like,

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:28.839
<v Speaker 2>if I had a company that did this, I'd run

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:30.720
<v Speaker 2>like hell from that company, But I might be running

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 2>into the arms of another company that does the exact

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 2>same thing. So I guess my question is it's here now.

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 2>What is the percentage in your opinion, that are actually

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 2>using this, the percentage of companies that are actually using this,

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 2>and how prevalent do you think it will be. Let's

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.359
<v Speaker 2>just go five years out, let's go no farther than

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 2>five years out. What do you think.

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 5>I think already probably it's about eighty percent as companies

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 5>are using them. So you know, I think what we're

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 5>going to need to see within five years is you

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 5>reference it earlier is guideline. We really need to understand

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 5>that over regulations is definitely going to backfire here, so

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 5>we need clear disclosure standards and consent rules that are

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 5>going to protect both sides. But I do think within

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 5>the next I would think eighteen months ninety percent, it's

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 5>not one hundred percent, we'll have some kind of tool

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 5>where they are making sure that the productivity that they're

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 5>paying for is actually happening.

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, the bottom line is the bottom line,

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 2>and that's what companies want. And the stressors that are

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 2>on these individual offices I don't think are going to

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 2>go away. You answer to somebody, you answer to shareholders,

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 2>or you answer to a board, or you just answered

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.839
<v Speaker 2>to the guy that owns the place. But I think

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 2>it just is the way of the world and the

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 2>way it's going, not necessarily the world I want to

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 2>live in, Suzanne, But nevertheless, you fight it, you probably lose. Suzanne,

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 2>how do people get a hold of you? Because you

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 2>sound like you know what's going on in life, and

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 2>there's not enough people like that on the face of

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 2>the earth. How do people get a hold of you?

0:36:57.080 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 5>You're so kind. I'm just going to direct people to

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 5>my webs website because there's goodies and all kinds of

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 5>information there. So it's Suzannecastle dot com.

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I was not going to think about your phone number.

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad to see the website. Worry about that. Hey, listen,

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:12.799
<v Speaker 2>this was fun. Hopefully we can do it again. But

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<v Speaker 2>for your time today, thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>I would love it. Thank you. Have a great day.

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<v Speaker 2>Bet easy way not to avoid getting caught goofing off

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<v Speaker 2>don't coove off. Seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 1>Now your host Ken Brew on news radio seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome out, and we've got uc basketball. Bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 2>You see against the number two Iowa State Hawkeye cyclones.

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:47.240
<v Speaker 2>Cyclones sometimes your brain parts and you're not sure exactly

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 2>what happens. Anyway, that's at the bottom of the hour.

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:54.359
<v Speaker 2>Is the airtime. Game time is a two at the half.

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<v Speaker 2>Now in Knoxville, Tennessee forty two Kentucky thirty one Tennessee

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:02.720
<v Speaker 2>of course, the number twenty four team in the country.

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 2>We have NFL playoff action and it is I guess

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 2>a double hitter today. First up is Buffalo Denver. That'll

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:16.280
<v Speaker 2>be out at Denver, Denver fourteen to three, Buffalo twelve

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 2>and five. And then immediately after that it is the

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.319
<v Speaker 2>forty nine Ers at the Seahawks. We'll see what kind

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 2>of condition Sam Darnold has any had an oblique strain

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 2>this week in practice. And then tomorrow it's the Texans

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 2>at New England. I think that could be the game

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:32.799
<v Speaker 2>of the weekend. And following that up will be the

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Rams and the Bears in Chicago and what ought to

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 2>be a very chilly Chili night in Chicago. Yeah, the

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:44.879
<v Speaker 2>high for Monday in Chicago is nine. So that ought

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 2>to tell you what the temperature should look like when

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 2>they kick that game off Tomorrow night at five point

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:55.359
<v Speaker 2>thirty leading into Sunday night into Monday morning. Anyway, stay

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 2>tuned for all of that. All of these games, of course,

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 2>are in and of themselves unique and interesting, and to

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 2>help us break it down and to see who's favored

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 2>and why and where the smart money should be laid,

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 2>we bring in the guy who is the betting genius

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 2>at Pro footballfocus dot com. I've said this many times.

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Pro Football Focus the website for analytical football, and Mason

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Cameron is the guy who is so charged with breaking

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 2>all of these games down, and he joins us now

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 2>here on seven hundred W wel W Mason. How are

0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 2>you on this glorious day, Dan.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm doing good.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm ready for another great round of football. Wild card

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:38.360
<v Speaker 8>weekend with excellent and the divisional round is shaping up

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:38.799
<v Speaker 8>to be good.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just take it from the top. First out of

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 2>the shoot, which is four point thirty this afternoon, you

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:48.360
<v Speaker 2>got Buffalo and Denver. Buffalo Denver, Denver at home giving

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 2>one I think the interesting thing in this game is

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 2>the total forty five and a half. I am so

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:59.359
<v Speaker 2>tempted by the over on this simply because I look

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 2>at both of these offenses, and even though Buffalo doesn't

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 2>have any wide receivers, I still have a feeling that

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:06.799
<v Speaker 2>it's going to go over forty five and a half.

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<v Speaker 8>What about you, Yeah, I mean there's a lot of

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 8>potential there. We've seen a lot of, you know, explosive

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 8>plays from both of these offense. The Broncos are a

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:18.720
<v Speaker 8>team that's sort of a slow starter and a late riser,

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 8>so they really have a potential to take an over

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:25.759
<v Speaker 8>on pretty much any gin that they're playing. A part

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 8>of the big concern there is definitely with the Bills, uh,

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 8>just given.

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<v Speaker 6>That the Broncos play a ton of man.

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 8>Coverage right now, the Bills just don't really have the

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 8>bodies that wide receiver to separate against sticky man coverages.

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:43.800
<v Speaker 8>Josh Allen dealing with that injury, So you know, it

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 8>is one of those things where it's a little ebb

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:47.360
<v Speaker 8>and flow. But when we look at some of the

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 8>model and what we're looking at, our projection is slightly

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 8>higher about forty six point two points about a fifty

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 8>one percent cover probability, and you know, we are seeing

0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:00.040
<v Speaker 8>a lot of money coming in on that side, so

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 8>you know there is a great possibility.

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 6>On that for sure.

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 8>One of the things that I'm interested to see in

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 8>this game and one of the sides that I'm actually

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:11.920
<v Speaker 8>leaning on the Bronco side of this one, as the

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.840
<v Speaker 8>line has moved towards them in this game. You know,

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 8>hostile environment. This Broncos teams third best cover rate at

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 8>home since the start of last season, so I'm really

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 8>excited to see what they can do in this matchup.

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, late game today, you got San Francisco at Seattle.

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 2>It's about seven. It's about Seattle minus seven. Although late

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 2>in the week Sam Donold went out. He has an

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 2>oblique injury, but apparently he's going to play through it.

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 2>No George Kittle for San Francisco. I'm looking at your

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 2>analysis in this game. The Seattle defense obviously is pretty

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 2>damn good. I think you would you would have admit

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 2>to that. I'm looking at San Francisco. They're a little

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 2>more ball control than they have been in the years past.

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 2>That will be even more so here without Kittle. They're

0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 2>going to rely on McCaffrey. I think a lot in

0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 2>this game is I mean, when they're healthy, they're good.

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.360
<v Speaker 2>But I'm looking at Seattle, I'm not sure that they're

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 2>healthy healthy in this game. What what do you how

0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 2>do you look at this? Because this is a tough

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 2>one for me.

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:13.319
<v Speaker 8>So one of the things that I'm targeting for this

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 8>game is the under and it actually continues to come down.

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:19.080
<v Speaker 8>So it's better to get in on that one now

0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 8>as opposed to later on. You know, as the game

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 8>cut time comes up, here.

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 2>What are we I'm seeing forty five and a half

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:28.879
<v Speaker 2>right now? What are you saying?

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 8>So I we have forty five in some spots it

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.319
<v Speaker 8>started to tie forty six and a half. I mean

0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 8>with the news of Sam Darnold, I think that we're

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 8>going to see some potential for it to come down

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:41.439
<v Speaker 8>a little bit further. But really, I think the big

0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 8>thing is if we look at the last two games

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:46.439
<v Speaker 8>in the regular season between these two teams, they only

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:49.279
<v Speaker 8>total forty six points in both of them.

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:50.399
<v Speaker 6>That last game.

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:52.399
<v Speaker 8>You never want to over index on a single game.

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 8>But when we talk about that last game, it was

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:57.759
<v Speaker 8>thirteen to three. That's a playoff environment that was to

0:42:57.840 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 8>decide the number one seed.

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:01.279
<v Speaker 6>So that's it's going to be a lot of the.

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 8>Tempo in the aggression that we see in that game.

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:05.839
<v Speaker 6>Mike McDonald's defense.

0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 8>I mean put on an absolute clinic in that game,

0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:11.719
<v Speaker 8>only four point one yards per play allowed. They limited

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 8>San Francisco to the lowest epa per play mark.

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 6>Of their season. And now you're talking about no George

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 6>Kittle in this game.

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 8>I think that's a huge loss for them as not

0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 8>only a pass catcher, but a run blocker. I mean,

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 8>he brings life to that running game, So that's going

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:30.360
<v Speaker 8>to be a big loss for them. We see a

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:32.799
<v Speaker 8>lot of their metrics in running drop when he's off

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:35.880
<v Speaker 8>the field, so I think that the under is probably

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:39.400
<v Speaker 8>a stronger play. I mean it comes into this Seattle

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:42.839
<v Speaker 8>team also being a run heavy offense as well, so

0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 8>they can really compress the game there.

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 2>It comes tomorrow's games. I think this could be the

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 2>game of the day of the weekend. Texans Patriots. You

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 2>point out something really interesting in this game. There's no

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:57.880
<v Speaker 2>wide resig receiver in ego. Collins is still in concussion protocol.

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 2>It looks more and more like he's not going to

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:04.400
<v Speaker 2>answer the bell In this one, you point out Jaden Higgins,

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 2>Texans wide receiver over three and a half receptions looks

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:10.320
<v Speaker 2>like a smart play. Has that held at three and

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 2>a half receptions in light of what's happened with Collins

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:15.000
<v Speaker 2>this week? Or is that movie?

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:19.840
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we're seeing a good possibility that it's going to

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:22.799
<v Speaker 8>fluctuate as we get a little bit closer to game time.

0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 8>I'm still seeing it at three and a half in spots,

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 8>and I think that we're going to get a value

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 8>on that. I think the biggest thing is that you'll

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.759
<v Speaker 8>potentially see the odds on that move right now at

0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 8>that plus one twenty five, which we actually give a

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 8>twenty four percent edge value to depending on where you're shopping.

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 8>But really, I think one of the big things for

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 8>that particularly is that Higgins has been excellent when over

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 8>down the stretch seventy nine point one PFF receiving grade.

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:53.359
<v Speaker 6>He's a guy who can find the end zone.

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 8>I actually like him at a touchdown at about plus

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:59.319
<v Speaker 8>three ten as well that you know, his receiving grade

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 8>top six among ninety qualifiers over you know, the back

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 8>half of the season without Nico Collins in there, I

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:09.400
<v Speaker 8>think we're going to see Higgins and both Xavier Hutchinson

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:13.279
<v Speaker 8>really get an opportunity to make some noise against the

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 8>New England defense, who.

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 6>Is fairly strong. I don't think they get quite enough.

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 8>Credit for them having a great defense, But this is

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 8>going to be a game where I think we're going

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 8>to have to see the Texans pass quite a bit.

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it looks like it's Patriots minus three at this point. Well,

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 2>I look at that Texans defense. It's it's stellar in

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:34.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, twenty yards in But you can you can

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 2>throw the ball on that secondary, can't you.

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:38.360
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 8>So that's something that we've actually seen from them is

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:44.280
<v Speaker 8>that they are among the best teams in the NFL

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:47.920
<v Speaker 8>at rallying to the football on short to intermediate throws

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 8>at around ten yards, they give up one of the

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.360
<v Speaker 8>lowest yards per attempt numbers.

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:53.880
<v Speaker 6>In that situation.

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:57.000
<v Speaker 8>But something that we have seen is that when you

0:45:57.080 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 8>throw balls twenty or more yards downfield, they get a

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 8>little bit over aggressive to come down in rally and

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 8>you can sort of beat them over the top. Now,

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:07.800
<v Speaker 8>with that being said, they're still a very strong defense,

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:11.280
<v Speaker 8>but there is an opportunity with this match up, specifically

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 8>where New England is one of the best deep ball

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:17.320
<v Speaker 8>passing teams in the NFL. They're very high in explosive

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 8>pass play percentage. They really get Chunkyard as well, Drake

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 8>may I mean, he's been one of the most effective

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:26.279
<v Speaker 8>deep passers in the NFL this season. So that's an

0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 8>opportunity for this Patriots team to really separate themselves from

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:35.360
<v Speaker 8>a Texans defense that is very strong by all accounts.

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know, if this game was in Houston,

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 2>I would have absolutely no problem, absolutely no problem going

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 2>with Houston. I don't know, man, there's something said for

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:50.120
<v Speaker 2>the Patriots and the way they're playing. It's Patriots minus

0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:52.200
<v Speaker 2>three right now. I've seen it as high as three

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:56.239
<v Speaker 2>and a half. But I have a tough time going

0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>against New England in this game, even against the money line,

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 2>I have a tough time going against them. What about you?

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 8>I agree, I'm actually on the side of New England

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 8>in this one.

0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:05.239
<v Speaker 3>I have.

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:07.399
<v Speaker 8>You know, we just got off we were doing our

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:09.880
<v Speaker 8>our show yesterday there.

0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:12.959
<v Speaker 6>Doing theft betting show, and I know we had.

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:15.680
<v Speaker 8>A lot of sentiment there between me and our guy

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:19.799
<v Speaker 8>two to four gang with you know, the Patriots' ability

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 8>to exploit that deep ball that's really fit perfectly for

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:25.120
<v Speaker 8>this I like them at minus three as well.

0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:27.919
<v Speaker 2>Mason Cameron, Pro Footballfocused dot Com our guests. Of course,

0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:30.880
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about these these four NFL games this weekend.

0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Final game of the weekend is tomorrow, Rams Bears. Again.

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Looking at this, it's Rams minus three and a half.

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing about the Rams, and you point this out.

0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 2>They get out to I mean, they can chug out

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:47.440
<v Speaker 2>to a lead, there's no question about it. But man,

0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 2>inside of four minutes, give me the Bears. The Bears

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:53.799
<v Speaker 2>simply know how to close out games. The question I

0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:56.879
<v Speaker 2>have in this game is can the Bears keep it

0:47:56.920 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 2>close enough to close it out. Obviously, week you know

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 2>they allowed a huge chunk, a huge lead. They figured

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 2>out a way to come back, Mason, There's only so

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 2>many times a year a team can do that. I

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 2>don't know. If the Bears get out to a huge

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:12.239
<v Speaker 2>lead in this game, my gut's telling me, I'm sorry,

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:14.600
<v Speaker 2>the Rams get out to a huge lead in this game.

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:16.960
<v Speaker 2>My gut is telling me it's going to be Rams

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:22.360
<v Speaker 2>handicap that aspect of the game for us, can you so?

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:25.239
<v Speaker 6>Yeah? So, what we have seen is that inscripted sequences.

0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 8>This Rams team is heading shoulders above any other team

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:33.480
<v Speaker 8>in the first three plays in terms of percentages that they're.

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:34.920
<v Speaker 6>Earning positive EPA.

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<v Speaker 8>What we've seen though, is that this Bears team had

0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 8>a lot of public backing. The public has loved to

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:43.840
<v Speaker 8>see their late game comebacks, and that's put a number

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 8>like three and the hook sort of influx there. The

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:49.719
<v Speaker 8>Bears are one of the most bet teams by the

0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:53.600
<v Speaker 8>public this week, so it is an opportunity for them.

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<v Speaker 6>I know our guy Ben.

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<v Speaker 8>Lindsay, he's actually on an angle of the Rams to

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:03.360
<v Speaker 8>cover or minus two and a half early in the

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:07.239
<v Speaker 8>game in the first half and then Bears at the

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:09.480
<v Speaker 8>back end at plus three and a half, sort of

0:49:09.480 --> 0:49:12.000
<v Speaker 8>playing into that potential narrative and that it's tend to

0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:14.920
<v Speaker 8>one bet as well when we see Chicago, I mean,

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:18.640
<v Speaker 8>they've been electric in at the end of games, fourth quarter, overtime.

0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:21.680
<v Speaker 8>They're top the NFL and EPA per play, So that

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<v Speaker 8>is the situation that's worth watching.

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<v Speaker 6>I think one of the big things here is weather.

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<v Speaker 8>People are talking about the weather and the Bears running game,

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<v Speaker 8>and that's why people.

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<v Speaker 6>Are leaning that direction. But I want to also put

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:34.400
<v Speaker 6>up that this.

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<v Speaker 8>Rams team is right up there with the Bears in

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:39.960
<v Speaker 8>terms of rushing success rate. And I think one of

0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 8>the things that is going under the radar is actually

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:46.640
<v Speaker 8>one of these teams can stop the run, and.

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:47.480
<v Speaker 6>That's the Rams.

0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:51.720
<v Speaker 8>The Bears bottom of the league in yards before contact

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 8>per attempt. I think that gives an opportunity for this

0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:58.320
<v Speaker 8>running game. Guys like Hyan Williams, guys like lake Holm,

0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:00.520
<v Speaker 8>they're going to have an opportunity to make a big

0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:00.879
<v Speaker 8>game back.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's going to be a high of twenty three

0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:04.840
<v Speaker 2>in Chicago on Sunday, but it's going to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the late game, so it's going to fall

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<v Speaker 2>off precipitously and the high on Monday is only going

0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:12.440
<v Speaker 2>to be nine. So that would tell you that overnight

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday and the Monday probably starting at sundawn, it's going

0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 2>to be really really cold. So so okay, bring that

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 2>home a little bit for us. You got a three

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:23.279
<v Speaker 2>and a half point spread in this the Rams are

0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:25.720
<v Speaker 2>giving three to the Bears at home at this hour.

0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:27.520
<v Speaker 2>What's your play in this game?

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<v Speaker 8>You know here in the in the PFF offices, we

0:50:31.160 --> 0:50:33.480
<v Speaker 8>were pretty split when we when we went over some

0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:37.840
<v Speaker 8>of our bets for this game in particular, I'm actually

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<v Speaker 8>going to be on the side of the Rams here.

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<v Speaker 8>I think there's just so many metrics that actually go

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<v Speaker 8>in their favor, and I think that the weather being

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<v Speaker 8>a you know, key in this game isn't so much,

0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:53.240
<v Speaker 8>you know, a factor because this Rams team, they aren't

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:56.319
<v Speaker 8>super weather dependent. We saw Stafford come in and he's

0:50:56.320 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 8>played really well in some.

0:50:57.520 --> 0:50:59.640
<v Speaker 6>Cold weather games as well.

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 8>Actually, our model is giving just a slight edge in

0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 8>the imply cover probability for the Rams to cover that

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:06.400
<v Speaker 8>three and.

0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:07.600
<v Speaker 6>A half at home.

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:10.800
<v Speaker 8>But you know, I do potentially see that side of

0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:11.960
<v Speaker 8>where the Bears could come from.

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:13.439
<v Speaker 6>But I'm leaning on the Rams. There.

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<v Speaker 2>You're leading on the Rams. Okay. You know what's the

0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:18.960
<v Speaker 2>best part about all this, Mason. We get to watch

0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 2>these games, we talk all we want about them. It's

0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 2>what happens on the field, right and hell yeah, And

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:26.719
<v Speaker 2>I think that's what makes all of this intriguing. But

0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:29.400
<v Speaker 2>you guys do a deep dive into this every single

0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 2>week during the season, and now here in the playoffs,

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:35.840
<v Speaker 2>it's so much more important. Again, Profootballfocus dot com. You

0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:39.480
<v Speaker 2>can find it online PFF dot com and it is

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:42.600
<v Speaker 2>a great investment, and I was saying that because Mason's

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 2>here with me. I'm just saying it is a great investment.

0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Nobody breaks down football, Nobody goes play by play, player

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:52.719
<v Speaker 2>by player, game by game, line by line than Pro

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Footballfocus dot Com. You're working for a great outfit there, Mason.

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:58.560
<v Speaker 2>We appreciate your time. Stay well. We'll see how they

0:51:58.560 --> 0:52:03.319
<v Speaker 2>play out, Okay, Dave Ken, Yeah you bet. I like

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Denver today. I think the line is meaningless. I think

0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:09.839
<v Speaker 2>Buffalo doesn't have anybody to throw to, although James Cook

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:13.120
<v Speaker 2>is absolutely wonderful and can take over a game as

0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:16.319
<v Speaker 2>a Mason just mentioned I'm going Seahawks tonight. I'm not

0:52:16.320 --> 0:52:19.800
<v Speaker 2>buying the Darneld thing being a big, big factor. We'll see.

0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:22.120
<v Speaker 2>As I said, that's why they play the games on

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:23.800
<v Speaker 2>seven hundred w l W