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Speaker 1: Paul Danner Junior's here for like the first time in

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Speaker 1: a month. Good afternoon on my legger. This is ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty. Thank you for listening. Hook you're having that

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Speaker 1: at an awesome Tuesday afternoon. The Reds are seven and three.

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Speaker 2: They don't hit, but.

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Speaker 1: They sure do field and they've got some arms. We'll

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Speaker 1: do that coming up in the four o'clock hour. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna help out Nicolodolo. I'm not breaking out any new

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Speaker 1: hand lotion or hand ointment, but I think I have

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Speaker 1: an idea for him. We'll try to make the Reds

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Speaker 1: offense better. All of that is coming up a little

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Speaker 1: bit later on show. Preview is available right now on

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Speaker 1: member today go to share facts dot org. Because it's Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: and because things are getting back to normal around here

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Speaker 1: with off days and doing shows out of town and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. Paul Danner Juniors with us from the

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Speaker 1: Athletic dot Com covering the Bengals, also the Growler podcast

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Speaker 1: and with us now.

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Speaker 3: It's been a while. It's good to see you. It's

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Speaker 3: good to be back. I felt feel like I'm back.

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Speaker 3: It does feel like we're kind of back now, Yes,

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Speaker 3: in the routine. Yes, A couple of weeks to the draft,

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Speaker 3: A lot to talk about. There's a lot of speculation season.

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Speaker 3: There's lots of stuff.

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Speaker 1: There is lots of stuff.

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Speaker 3: There's lots of small stuff, big stuff, Yes, speculus stuff.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I'm I'm, I'm, I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if an hour will be enough because

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Speaker 1: that's how much stuff I have. I've got it all

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Speaker 1: in this notepad here.

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Speaker 3: I would say that I'll try to be succinct, but

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Speaker 3: you and I know that's a lie.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I want to start. I want to start

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Speaker 1: with uh with the draft, Yeah, because I have I

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Speaker 1: have a little bit of an admission. I am treating

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Speaker 1: this draft the way my daughter treated Christmas two Christmases ago.

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Speaker 1: Or if you said to my daughter in the week

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Speaker 1: get get? What are you gonna get for Christmas? What

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Speaker 1: do you asking santaphore? What are you hoping under the tree?

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Speaker 1: She would say Barbie camper, and you would go, cool,

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Speaker 1: what else? Don't care? Barbie camper? Okay, if Santa brings

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Speaker 1: daddy to get you? I don't know. I want the

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Speaker 1: Barbie Camper. That's me with Caleb Downs. Yeah, so I

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Speaker 1: was relieved. I listened to Who Daylight while you were

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Speaker 1: out of town covering the owner's meetings without any Bengals

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Speaker 1: owners listening to Jay Morrison and Mark Shalafu, and they

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Speaker 1: addressed I think what all of us started to think

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Speaker 1: about when the Bengals acquired Kyle Dugger, which is a

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Speaker 1: good acquisition. That's a good acquisition, but it's does that

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about it. There's other positions, there's needs versus wants,

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Speaker 3: that was an overrated item. The Barbie camper is still around.

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Speaker 3: The Barbie Camper comes, by the way, with a lot

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Speaker 3: First of all, I want to make sure it's clear

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Speaker 3: More playmakers who are smart football players could send this

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Speaker 3: It's easy to get fixated on somebody like that Barbie Camper.

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Speaker 3: There's Barbie Dreamhouse. Yeah, right, there's a bike. Maybe you

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Speaker 3: them in multiple ways, in ways that they historically have

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Speaker 3: it's a bike. You know what, The bike will take

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Speaker 1: But I think in writing about this, you offered perspective

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Speaker 3: Something they've done a lot, You're right, I mean you

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Speaker 3: really you know, let's not act like the T Higgins

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Speaker 3: I just think that that's a problem. And whereas at

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Speaker 3: The way we're cutting, yeah, the way the twenty four

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Speaker 3: But like, you have guys and all those bisis and

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Speaker 3: It just seems like all of these places holes have

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Speaker 3: And here's two guys that will likely one of them

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Speaker 3: Whatever that is that it just keeps standing out to me,

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Speaker 1: It just feels like such a Bengals pick. Jermal McCoy

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Speaker 3: And I think you know, Caleb Downs may be a car,

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Speaker 1: But I don't, you know, I don't best player in

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Speaker 3: I think it's a debate they're having internally right now,

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Speaker 3: probably up until before the draft that'll continue to go

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Speaker 3: on exactly what that it looks like if that scenario

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Speaker 1: Is there a world where both those corners of there

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean probably. I mean there's definitely a world.

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Speaker 3: I would ask for a wellness check on al Golden

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Speaker 3: Because you know, it's a just what makes you better

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Speaker 1: It's the ultimate luxury pick. Yeah, and they just don't

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Speaker 3: You're coming off three consecutive non and take take you know,

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Speaker 1: And positions of need. I mean, you and Jay did

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Speaker 1: But it's like the ultimate luxury pick. Yeah, and there.

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Speaker 3: You know what my take on this would be. I

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Speaker 3: If you if you're trying, because you know so many.

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Speaker 3: Like you put you PLoP him down in the Giants,

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Speaker 3: I would just say, give me another offensive lineman for

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Speaker 1: For those who want the Bengals to do this, to

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Speaker 3: watch how Jamar and t operate, and all of a

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Speaker 3: maybe next year or whatever you're dealing with him. He's

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Speaker 1: big game for the Columbus Blue Jackets. They've lost sixth straight.

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Speaker 1: Athleticas here what was with cutting Matt Lee.

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Speaker 3: That's a weird one, right, It's very out of out

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Speaker 3: of character in terms of timing of things. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Otia's are about to happen. It's normally a guy like that,

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Speaker 3: a twenty twenty four seventh round pick, you would assume

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Speaker 3: that he would just be coming in and going through

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Speaker 3: and he's fighting for a roster spot. There's no seemingly

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Speaker 3: no value in cutting him now versus letting him come

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Speaker 3: in and see how he plays and maybe he got better,

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Speaker 3: and otherwise you let him go right before the season starts,

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Speaker 3: Like there's no difference. So hard to say exactly what

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Speaker 3: that's about. I can tell you what it means, though.

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Speaker 3: I guess we're gonna move INTI your offensive lineup the

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Speaker 3: needs chart. I mean, you know again, like this is

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Speaker 3: the same thing as the Tyson Anderson conversation. Well we're

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Speaker 3: going there next, Yeah, we're going there next. I mean,

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Speaker 3: and we can lumpies together. Why not just bring back

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Speaker 3: Lucas Patrick. Yeah, Like, first of all, we know no

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Speaker 3: one loved Lucas Patrick last year. Right, he can play

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Speaker 3: center as a backup. He's a reliable vet. He blended

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Speaker 3: it in the room. He gives you another option at guard.

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Speaker 3: You talked so much about how great the chemistry was

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Speaker 3: in that room last year.

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Speaker 1: He can just let him go to the Giants.

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Speaker 3: There's no that's a nice serviceable depth piece to have,

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Speaker 3: especially if.

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Speaker 1: You knew that you were moving on from that Lee. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Like, and so if he's not part of the answer,

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Speaker 3: now you just have a hole, right, another hole with

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Speaker 3: the draft self created two and a half weeks away, right,

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Speaker 3: And that's fine, Like it's a good draft for centers

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Speaker 3: or whatever, but you just keep adding those on and

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Speaker 3: some of the stuff you're not and maybe whatever. I

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Speaker 3: just it just seems like you have this thing that

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Speaker 3: you know that you felt like you liked. Everybody got along.

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Speaker 3: That was a big part of what was great last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: why not just bring back Lucas Patrick and give him

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Speaker 3: the you know one or two mill or whatever that

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Speaker 3: that you uh.

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Speaker 1: That you just did. I just with Matt Lee, you

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Speaker 1: invested two years in him. He's a seventh rounder, so

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Speaker 1: there's he's developmental. You put time into him when he

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Speaker 1: has played. I certainly don't think he has stood out

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Speaker 1: for being awesome, but I've not spent any time the

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Speaker 1: Monday after a game going whole boy. When Matt Lee

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Speaker 1: asking him to start. He's playing behind Ted Carris. That's

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Speaker 1: a good guy to learn from. Like it just the

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Speaker 1: it's weird. Yeah, I don't. It's weird.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's had injuries, right, So I don't know,

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Speaker 3: like what the impact that you know, that's there's some

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Speaker 3: things you just never know in terms of what else

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Speaker 3: is going on there, how he's doing, how he's doing,

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Speaker 3: will you know?

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Speaker 1: But I don't.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, like what exactly the reason it

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Speaker 3: just it certainly doesn't what we do know about Matt Lee.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't necessarily fit what you would have expected. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I assume there's something else that we don't

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Speaker 3: know going on there.

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Speaker 1: I like the Kyle Dugger signing because it's exactly the

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Speaker 1: type of player that they didn't have last year. He's

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Speaker 1: also exactly the type of player I wish they would

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Speaker 1: have signed so far at linebacker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, he fits in that mold of a helpful player,

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Speaker 3: a guy who's played you'd be comfortable throwing into a game,

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Speaker 3: he expects to play, he knows what's going on. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean that's a great signing, the type of signing,

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Speaker 3: and you'd expect you just would like to see a

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Speaker 3: few more of those.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 3: I mean linebacker certainly feels like the type of spot

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Speaker 3: that you would have thrown a guy like that into.

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Speaker 1: I like the Dugger signing.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was a good, solid move and now

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Speaker 3: you've got three starting caliber level safeties and that make

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Speaker 3: you feel feel good about where that position is at.

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Speaker 1: Did signing Kyle Dugger mean that they couldn't figure out

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Speaker 1: a way to keep special teams? Say, he's Tyson Anderson

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Speaker 1: who leads for Denver on a one year, one and

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Speaker 1: a half million dollar deal. I mean, what are we

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Speaker 1: doing right?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Like, look, what is the role of your fourth safety

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Speaker 3: other than you would hope to have an elite special teamer?

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Speaker 1: Okay that you have that?

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Speaker 2: What he is?

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Speaker 1: You have that guy right?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: At the combine I asked Darren Simmons about Tyson and

575
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Speaker 3: he was just effusive and how important his versatility is.

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Speaker 3: He can do so many different things. So in every

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Speaker 3: year you've got so many young guys on those special

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Speaker 3: teams units to be able to deploy somebody to do

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Speaker 3: different tasks depending on where you're at each year is massive.

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Speaker 3: He he could be your personal protector, which is one

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Speaker 3: of the most important spots.

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Speaker 1: He can do it.

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Speaker 3: He can do it all, and people like him. He's

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Speaker 3: very much a like, you know, top of the line

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Speaker 3: guy in terms of the locker room. He's like an

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Speaker 3: ideal number four. And to just let him roll out

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Speaker 3: for one point five, yeah, it just does. These are

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Speaker 3: the those are the types. That's what good thing good

589
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Speaker 3: teams do. You just right keep a guy that you

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Speaker 3: know that has good chemistry, that fits a role ideally

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Speaker 3: for you pay him his value, which is again barely

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Speaker 3: you know what is that one one fiftieth of the

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Speaker 3: salary gap. I just that's a guy who in a

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Speaker 3: specific role was excellent, was excellent special teams.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not nothing.

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Speaker 3: And to just throw away a guy that's really important

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Speaker 3: for peanuts, to just exchange it for somebody that's gonna

598
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Speaker 3: bring a variable, it might lose you a game. Remember

599
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Speaker 3: of the year everyone remembers twenty twenty four. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: where all of these late round picks that had to

601
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Speaker 3: be thrust into some kind of a role can end

602
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Speaker 3: up costing games. Dejon Anthony Rico with a hold whatever,

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Speaker 3: all of these things that I can't believe all the

604
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Speaker 3: ways you're losing because guys that are undrafted free agents

605
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Speaker 3: or six or seventh round picks had to go do

606
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Speaker 3: something in a game and screwed it up, versus having

607
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Speaker 3: somebody in there that you trust and what they're doing,

608
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Speaker 3: letting Tyson Anderson go for the equivalent of whoever some

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Speaker 3: probably seventh round pick rookie is gonna be or you know, PJ.

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Speaker 1: Jeules or whatever is what that is is where things

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Speaker 1: like that happen.

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Speaker 3: And so I just I never understand stuff like that,

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Speaker 3: Like it'd be one thing that came out that they

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Speaker 3: gave him two three million dollars, no.

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Speaker 1: Doubt, but one one and a half. You can there's

616
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Speaker 1: always some some churn at the bottom of the roster,

617
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Speaker 1: and the special teams coach is gonna have to deal

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Speaker 1: with that, right that's built in. That's built into every

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Speaker 1: team every season. So there's a premium on guys that

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Speaker 1: you know, you go, okay, I know what this guy

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Speaker 1: can do, and I could use him in a variety

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Speaker 1: of different roles and I can leave him alone. That's

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Speaker 1: worth having if it costs you two million dollars like

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Speaker 1: that's they couldn't have given him for one more year

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Speaker 1: another half mil. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's just not it's it's not that hard.

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Speaker 3: It's not that hard. I mean, there's there's some value,

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Speaker 3: and that is such a tiny, tiny amount of what

629
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Speaker 3: you pay out to players. But you know, so be it.

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Speaker 1: You went to the owners meetings, and what I liked

631
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Speaker 1: about it is you got you got some NFL coaches

632
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Speaker 1: on the record about players who left their teams to

633
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Speaker 1: go play for the Bengals, just looking for people that

634
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Speaker 1: wanted to talk to me bo. And I'm guessing you

635
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Speaker 1: did this in part because there was no Bengals owner.

636
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Speaker 1: No I would have done that. I wouldn't get it.

637
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Speaker 1: That's fine. What is it like covering an owners meeting

638
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Speaker 1: when the team you cover does not make ownership available?

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Speaker 3: A touch slow? You gotta you gotta look around right

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Speaker 3: a little more? Why Why was Katie not available? So

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Speaker 3: Katie's not available because they are recalibrating how they want

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Speaker 3: to sort of do their schedule of ownership in front

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Speaker 3: office talking.

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Speaker 1: I guess they do it once do it.

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Speaker 3: She's still gonna talk, Okay, she's going to talk to

646
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Speaker 3: us that we're out there. You know, they let us

647
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Speaker 3: know on March eighth, few weeks beforehand, and so they're

648
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Speaker 3: recalibrating that schedule. So we're going to get to talk

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Speaker 3: to her in June, is the expectation, okay, and so

650
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: that we'll get here more after, like everything kind of happens,

651
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 3: I guess, rather than in the middle of things happening.

652
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, the rest of the league

653
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: obviously has is out there. Ty was all.

654
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 3: Everybody in Arizona, everybody in Arizona who is local, So

655
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: I don't know what their deal was, but uh yeah,

656
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: we're actually had some form of front office talking.

657
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: That's that was their choice. So we're gonna get her.

658
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: You know.

659
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 3: The biggest thing for me is as long as it

660
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: doesn't get taken off the schedule. I mean, we have

661
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: to be able to ask these questions. I would have

662
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: loved for it to have been out there. If it's not,

663
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: that's we deal with it. But yeah, it's it certainly

664
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: makes it a little slow out there.

665
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: Every other team is okay putting their owner out there

666
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: in front of cameras and microphones.

667
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,239
Speaker 3: And they have always done and like this has been

668
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: where this is where the traditional spot has been before.

669
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 3: Katie was there talking Mike. You know, Mike doesn't travel

670
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: like that anymore. Fine, yeah, years al but but you know,

671
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: Mike loved he we'd come in there, we'd sit down

672
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 3: in his like in his little room or suite or whatever,

673
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: and we'd talk through the team and it was great,

674
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: and he'd offer the perspective like Mike only Mike cann

675
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: and I loved it, like it was great.

676
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: And and Katie has been good. You know, last year we.

677
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: Had a lot of big topics. She was really we

678
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 3: had a lot of big topics to do and she

679
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: did it and it was fine. And they're just you know,

680
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 3: they want to redo however they they lay it out,

681
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: and so we'll go wherever we got to go and

682
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: do whatever we got to do in order.

683
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: To ask those questions. Okay, whenever that ends up being.

684
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: So you're just out there in Arizona, Yeah, and uh,

685
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: watching all your peers in the media interview owners of

686
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: the teams they cover, and you're just doodling in notebook.

687
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean you get to enjoy yourself a

688
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: little more at the part, right, you know, there's a

689
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: little bit more of just I watched.

690
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: You talk to Jeff Hobson. We did, I did. I

691
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. It was it works for the team. So it works.

692
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of connected, kind of connected there. Uh I

693
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: was able to talk to Butch, No, we there's plenty.

694
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 3: I mean, everybody in the league is so many people

695
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 3: are there, so there's lots of different people you can

696
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: talk to. We still get the coaches breakfast with Zach

697
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: Taylor and we we did that.

698
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, no, it's a little different. Pittsburgh is

699
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: hosting the draft. Is Cincinnati going to host the NFL

700
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: Draft here soon? It was on my it was on

701
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: my Katie Blackburn question list. You get a little more

702
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: specific on that. I know they want. There's there's about

703
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: that being the case they got it going to.

704
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember us writing about them trying to

705
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: get the draft a decade ago, and I think a

706
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: lot of it came back to the hotel situation and

707
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 3: stuff like that. So that is starting to fix itself

708
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: as and and we're seeing these these drafts are moving around,

709
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: and they would like to. They've wanted to for a

710
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 3: long time. They certainly feel like, you know, the list

711
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 3: is getting shorter of places that haven't had it. I

712
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 3: haven't had that or already get super Bowls or whatever.

713
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it's it's certainly something they would

714
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: love to see happen. And when that ends up being,

715
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: I don't know when the NFL schedule will meet up

716
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 3: with them feeling like Cincinnati is ready, but I'll I'll ask.

717
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: That question when I get the opportunity to, well, you

718
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: ask how she feels about Joe Burrow playing flag football

719
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: with Logan Paul.

720
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: That might come up, That might come up, right, Yeah, No,

721
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 3: I mean I thought there was some.

722
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: Really, I had some.

723
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 3: So I had some really interesting conversations about the flag

724
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: thing while I was out there, because they were announcing

725
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: also that the league is getting behind these two flag

726
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: football leagues or whatever, and so I, you know, sort

727
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 3: of pop my head into that.

728
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: And Larry Fitzgerald was there, and.

729
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 3: He is kind of one of the NFL player faces

730
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 3: of people behind it, and so afterwards I was chatting

731
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: with him a little bit about like, you know, he

732
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: was out fanatics event with Burrows, Like what was that like?

733
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: And He's like, you know, why, I've quickly understood why

734
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: this dude won the Heisman and went with the Super Bowl,

735
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 3: like he just takes everything different, like it clearly matters

736
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: to him. But then he said this interesting story where

737
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: he was like, you know, I was at like an

738
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: event or whatever around it and it was me and

739
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: Burrow and Roger Goodell, and Burrow had all of these

740
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 3: ideas about how to grow the game, grow the game

741
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: of flag through football and how the NFL players can

742
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: have a role, like he he's really invested in it.

743
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: And Larry was like, it's just it was really cool

744
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: to hear somebody who really cares about being invested in

745
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 3: the growth of this and has real ideas about it,

746
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: and and you know, you could just see how much

747
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 3: thought he had put into it, and I thought that

748
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 3: was fascinating. Yeah, like it does seem and you've heard

749
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 3: Burrow has been the most vocal probably have any player

750
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: about wanting to play in the Olympics. But behind the

751
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: whole thing, then you see him doing whatever was happening

752
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 3: on the field. Yeah, no, no, you know, I'm sure

753
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 3: you were. You were not alone amongst Bengals fans. But

754
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: I thought that was interesting. You can see it matters

755
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 3: to him, Like that's that does It's something that he

756
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: really is uh is interested in, and so I, you know,

757
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 3: for that sake, I think it was kind of kind

758
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 3: of cool to hear some of.

759
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: That background, no doubt, but like can we not? Can

760
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: we not?

761
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: Right?

762
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: I know, I know, does it have to look like that?

763
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I I'm just sitting there, I'm on spring break.

764
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: I'm sitting on my couch, the beach out one window

765
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 3: right and perked up on the couch like, don't do this, yes, no, yes,

766
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: not today. I was having flashbacks to watching Tyler Eifert

767
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 3: in the Pro Bowl, you know, like, no, don't let

768
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 3: this happen.

769
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: Don't let something happen here.

770
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 3: And so I just you know, in talking to Zach

771
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: Taylor at the Coach's breakfast about it, you know, his

772
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 3: whole point was kind of like, we got through that, Yes,

773
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 3: you know, got through that. Anything more beyond it is

774
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 3: a question for future Zach. He wasn't gonna worry about it,

775
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: but it was clear like there was some stress of

776
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: you know, probably best that you didn't watch that one.

777
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: Well I didn't. Basically my rule is whenever I hear

778
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: Logan or Jake Paul and fanatics, I'm good. Yeah. And

779
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: then if if my favorite team's quarterback is playing and

780
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: there's a chance he can get injured, not even close

781
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: to a TV. I'm good. Just tell me when it's over.

782
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: You saw, you saw, obviously the quote from Kyle Shanahan

783
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: about practice. But we got YouTubers running into quarterback. Yeah,

784
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: that's what I need, right, you know, the meal ticket

785
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 3: of the franchise.

786
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: It all falls apart before the draft because some guy

787
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: who's a twitch gamer on YouTube, if those things are

788
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: allowed to coexist, decides that he's going to be a

789
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: meathead with Joe Burrow. That's what I need. Great? Can

790
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: we not? Can we not? It's perfect way to put that.

791
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: Covering the Bengals forward. The Athletic dot Com tons of

792
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 1: content on there between now and the draft and obviously

793
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: the immediate aftermath of the draft, and of course the

794
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 1: Growler podcast.

795
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 3: Check that out. As we say, where you get your podcasts,

796
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 3: including on YouTube. Paul Dane or Junior will talk again

797
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 3: next week, looking forward to it that how many more

798
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: mock drafts I have? I have one coming out tomorrow

799
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: and then the official last one from me, and I'll

800
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: be a part of one more beat writer mock drafts.

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Speaker 9: That's it.

802
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: Okay, very good. I haven't done mine yet. That's good.

803
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: I can't wait.

804
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: You know what, alert the alert, the printers alert tomorrow

805
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Speaker 3: The Beast tomorrow.

806
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Speaker 1: I'm printing it tomorrow, coming out tomorrow. Dane is with me,

807
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Speaker 1: Tarin Wednesday of next week, we have we have Dane

808
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: next week. So I'm printing The Beast tomorrow. You are

809
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: you are sharing a podcast with me tomorrow and Dane. Wow,

810
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: So Dane, Dane will be on my show, was on

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Speaker 1: first probably here do we have this highly credible draft

812
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Speaker 1: adalyst and when you're done with him, you bring me on.

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Speaker 1: And the last time I was on your podcast, I

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Speaker 1: think I told a story about the time my parents

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Speaker 1: comes into hey one will make you laugh too, on

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Speaker 1: top of god brandom analysis. All right, we look forward

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Speaker 1: to that tomorrow. It's six away from four o'clock. We'll

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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty to Paul Edgard, Thank you

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Speaker 1: We have to talk about legally what Tiger Woods may

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Speaker 1: We've got to spend some time on the college basketball

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00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: national title game last night. Michigan wins the championship, knocking

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Speaker 1: That a little bit later on this hour plus Brenneman

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Speaker 1: and Jones on baseball, the Reds are seven and three.

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Speaker 1: That is a one hundred and thirteen win pace seven

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Speaker 1: and three. Tonight they go for a fifth consecutive victory.

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Speaker 1: They're seven and three through ten games. Let's be honest, man,

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Speaker 1: Over the last at No. Twenty twenty five, hell, maybe

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Speaker 1: thirty years, there have been more ten games stretches to

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00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: open the season where we have wondered how big of

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00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: a hole are they going to dig themselves than there

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Speaker 1: have been stretches where they have won the overwhelming majority

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Speaker 1: of games they've played. Seven and three, the Reds are

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Speaker 1: off to a terrific start, and that terrific start is

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Speaker 1: perhaps amplified by the fact that the Chicago Cubs, the

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00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: odds on favorite to win this division, have gotten off

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00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: to a slow start. Now the almost indestructible Milwaukee Brewers,

865
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Speaker 1: who I feel like they could almost just run nine

866
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Speaker 1: dudes out there, doesn't matter who they are, are off

867
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Speaker 1: to an even better start at eight and two. But

868
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Speaker 1: seven and three is great, And what makes it even

869
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: better is the starting pitching has been terrific. Watching Brandon

870
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 1: Williamson last night. I liked watching RT Lauder on Saturday.

871
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: He was terrific. And watching Chase Burns just at times

872
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: stare down Texas's hitters and dominate them was a treat.

873
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: But watching Brandon Williamson use that change up to flummox,

874
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Speaker 1: I think that's the word flummox. We'll go with flummox.

875
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: Miami's hitters last night was terrific. Ellie Dela Cruz creating

876
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Speaker 1: a run with a hustle double that set up Sal

877
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: Stewart driving him in. It was quintessential Ellie where he

878
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: hits a ground ball to basically center field. He is

879
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: charging out of the box, he rounds first with authority,

880
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: he beats the throw easily. It was the type of smart,

881
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: a aggressive play that if you're Elie de la Cruz,

882
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: you could use to your advantage to help create more

883
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: scoring opportunities. It sets up Sal Stewart, who's obviously off

884
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: to a great start. I still think he's going to

885
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: be National League Rookie of the Year. Time Will Tell

886
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 1: puts a run on the board, Tyler Stevenson goes deep.

887
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 1: The Reds have played ten games, they have won seven.

888
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: They have four wins this year where they have scored

889
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: exactly two runs.

890
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Speaker 10: Four.

891
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Speaker 1: You're lucky to have four of those in like two months.

892
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: They have four in less than two weeks. It's what

893
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: great pitching will do for you. More excellent bullpen work

894
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: last night, It's what great defense will do for you.

895
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: The Reds still haven't made an error, which is pretty remarkable.

896
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 1: They play clean, crisp baseball. They don't give up extra outs.

897
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: For the most part, they don't give up extra bases.

898
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't entirely sure what Will Benson was doing on

899
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: the Ramirez double or triple in right now field last night,

900
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Speaker 1: but nonetheless like they're playing a very clean brand of

901
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: baseball because of their offensive issues, and we are going

902
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Speaker 1: to talk about them here in a second. They have

903
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: because of their offensive issues. And we touched on this

904
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: a little bit yesterday, but they have a very small

905
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: margin for error, but they don't make it even smaller

906
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Speaker 1: by making a bunch of dumb plays in the field,

907
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Speaker 1: by making a bunch of dumb plays on the base pass,

908
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: or by having bad pitching. So that's all really, really good.

909
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: The headline is the Reds are seven to three. The

910
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: headline is and should be the Reds have gotten off,

911
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Speaker 1: at least so far, to a good start, and they

912
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Speaker 1: have done it in spite of a very very weak offense.

913
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: I think all of us as sports fans would love

914
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: to talk more about a team overcoming its deficiencies than

915
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: be sunken by them. But you can't talk about a

916
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: team overcoming its deficiencies without at least worrying a little

917
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: bit when those deficiencies will ultimately sink them. They are

918
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: walking a tightrope right now. They've scored twenty eight runs

919
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: in ten games. I mentioned all the close, low scoring wins,

920
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: but they are walking a tightrope right now with their

921
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: profound lack of offense. So the question becomes, where are

922
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: they gonna get more offense from now? Eli, Devin Cruiz

923
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: is off to a terrific start, and Sal Stewart's off

924
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: to a terrific start, and they have gotten bit contributions

925
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Speaker 1: from a lot of different guys. But at the end

926
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Speaker 1: of the day, ten games, twenty eight runs. I would

927
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Speaker 1: be willing to bet that if they score just twenty

928
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: eight runs or maybe less over the next ten games,

929
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Speaker 1: they will not win seven of them. So here, to

930
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: me is a little bit of the issue. They have

931
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Speaker 1: a lot of guys who have gotten off to slow

932
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: starts this season that you might be willing to say, Well,

933
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Speaker 1: it's early, it's only ten games, it's not even been

934
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Speaker 1: two weeks since opening Day. Don't press the panic button,

935
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Speaker 1: don't overreact. Give these guys time. They'll turn into the

936
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Speaker 1: back of the baseball card. And I don't think for

937
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: a second that, for example, TJ. Friedel's a one forty

938
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Speaker 1: seven hitter, but he's batting one forty seven right now,

939
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Speaker 1: and I'm using batting average understanding it is a flawed statistic.

940
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: Noel J. Marte, who's in the lineup tonight, excuse me,

941
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: in the lineup tonight against a very very good Miami

942
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: pitcher in Sandy al Contra, is not an eighty three hitter.

943
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: That's what he's hitting right now. Tyler Stevenson is not

944
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: a one sixty seven hitter, though, that's what he is

945
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: batting right now. That said, some of these early season

946
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: offensive issues that we are seeing some of these guys

947
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: go through, unfortunately, are a little bit of a continuation

948
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: of some things we saw unfold last year. Noel J.

949
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: Mart is off to a bad start, and it is

950
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: completely fair to wonder how long his leash is gonna be.

951
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: We talked about that on opening day. I asked Tommy

952
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: Thrawl about that the day before Opening day on this show.

953
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: Why did we talk about those things? A. Noelve Marte

954
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: had an uneven spring b He's been in the doghouse before.

955
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: See Terry Francona midway through spring training. Pretty lukewarm endorsement

956
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: of noelve Marte. Indeed, they have other dudes who can

957
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: play the position that Noel ve Marte is playing, that

958
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: he still doesn't have a lot of experience playing well.

959
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: He's off to an eighty three start. Noelve Marte authored

960
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: the signature moment of the season last year. It's going

961
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: to be remembered this weekend with a bobblehead of him

962
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: going over the right field wall to rob a home

963
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: run against Pittsburgh in Game one fifty nine last year

964
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: at GABP. But over his last thirty two games last season,

965
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: noelve Marte batted one ninety two. So take that and

966
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: add to it his anemicx start to the season so

967
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: far this year, it is fair to wonder, based on

968
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: how last season ended and the beginning of the season

969
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: this year, either how long is it going to take

970
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: for Noel ve Marte to start hitting or how long

971
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: will they wait for Noel Marte to start hitting before

972
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: they bring up somebody else like Reese Hines. TJ. Friedel's

973
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 1: off to a slow start. A TJ. Friedl top to bottom.

974
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: Last year had a pretty decent season, got on base

975
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: at roughly a thirty six percent clip. That's pretty good

976
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: for a leadoff hitter. TJ. Friedel this year has an

977
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: on base percentage of two ninety three. That's not going

978
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: to cut it. It's really not going to cut it

979
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: for a leadoff guy. But TJ. Friedel last season, over

980
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: his last ninety three games, batted two thirty six. This

981
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: year so far, he's batting one forty seven. Again, I'm

982
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: using batting average because it's the simplest stat, and maybe

983
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,479
Speaker 1: I should use others, but I think you get the point.

984
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: So TJ. Friedel, you might go, well, it's only been

985
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 1: ten games. He's going to hit at some point. But

986
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: his slow start to the season, much like Noelve Marte,

987
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: seemingly an extension of his poor finish to last season.

988
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: They have a guy playing third base. And I know

989
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: there are folks who get mad at me when I

990
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: say this, key Brian Hayes is just a bad hitter,

991
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, He's just a bad hitter. Bad hitters

992
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: when they get off the slow starts. The numbers look

993
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: like the numbers that keep Brian Hayes is putting up.

994
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 1: He's bat in the buck fifteen, he's slugging one fifteen.

995
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: Why because he doesn't have an extra base hit. He

996
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: doesn't get on base a lot, getting on base in

997
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: an eighteen percent clip. I could go back and resite

998
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: a bunch of numbers from Kee Brian Hayes twenty twenty

999
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: five after he got traded by the Pirates to the Reds.

1000
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: I don't think I need to bore you with those.

1001
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: We know he's just a bad hitter Spencer Steer. Spencer

1002
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: Steer hit the big two run home run on Friday

1003
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: against Texas, which, to a degree, set the tone for

1004
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: the weekend, maybe set the tone for the four game

1005
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: winning streak that hopefully they extend tonight. But top to bottom,

1006
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: Spencer Steer off to a slow start. Dude has been

1007
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: an absolute strikeout machine. Eleven k's and thirty five play appearances,

1008
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: a batting average below two hundred. Last year, Spencer Steer

1009
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: had a league average OPS batted two thirty eight. Tyler

1010
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 1: Stevenson did not have a great offensive season last year.

1011
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: The home run last night not with standing. Tyler Stevenson

1012
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: is not off to a great start this year. Now,

1013
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: there's always extremes this early in the season. Sal Stewart

1014
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: is probably not going to have an OPS approaching eleven hundred.

1015
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: That's what he has right now. He'll come back to

1016
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: Earth and some of these guys will hit more and

1017
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: their numbers won't look as ghastly. But this team's got

1018
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: to find offense. And in order to find offense, you

1019
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: need someone in this group of players who started last

1020
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: season slowly and who have started this season slowly to

1021
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: start to hit, maybe start to hit at a level

1022
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: that they're not capable of. How and when are those

1023
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: things going to happen? Question, That's why I asked it

1024
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: five point three seven four nine, fifteen thirty and eight

1025
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: sixty six seven h two three seven seven six. Again,

1026
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: it is always so much better, so much more fun

1027
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: to discuss these things when the team is winning. I know,

1028
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: I know in every fan base there are segments of

1029
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: people who say, look, forget about all that, just enjoy

1030
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: the fact that they're winning. Frankly, that's not my job.

1031
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: My job's to talk about the team. This team has

1032
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: awesome starting pitching has gotten very good, relief work is

1033
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: making every play in the field. But there're gonna be

1034
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: limitations to what they can accomplish if offensively they're not

1035
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: better and they're probably not as bad as they have

1036
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: been so far this season. But if they continue to

1037
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: be as bad as they've been so far this season,

1038
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: even in the short term, that's going to be a

1039
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: problem in a division that is so far at least

1040
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:03,120
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Speaker 1: solution in the offing, and you don't need me to

1044
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: be cute with the radio tas. You know who it is.

1045
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: It's Reese Hines. Is it time to call him up?

1046
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: I think we know the answer. We'll give it anyway.

1047
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: Next on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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1052
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1070
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1071
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Speaker 1: one of the byproducts, if you will, of having kind

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Speaker 1: of an incomplete offseason, which the great start win loss

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00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 1: wise notwithstanding, I still think it's fair from an offensive

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00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: perspective to wonder what this team would look like had

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00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: they made one more move. When they didn't, I think

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00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: a lot of his feared that we would be cycling

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00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: through with the bottom end of the roster or in

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00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: searching for potential offensive solutions. A lot of guys who

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00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: have already been given chances here. Resigns is one of

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Speaker 1: those guys. Now, I don't think anybody should have given

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00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: up on resigned simply because you know, when he got

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00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: chances last year, he did not make the most of them.

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00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: But still, at the same time, the guy did nothing

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Speaker 1: but rake this spring. Like there are seasons, and I

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00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: know I'm not the only person to say this, but

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00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: there are seasons where resigned spring training numbers would have

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00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,959
Speaker 1: not only allowed him to make the team, they would

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00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: have earned him a starting gig and refresher memory or

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00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: give you an idea if you don't know. Reshigns during

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00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: the spring had an ops of fourteen to fourteen. He

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00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: homered five times in forty three plate appearances. He batted

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Speaker 1: four to ten. His performance at the plate was good

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00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: enough for him to make the team. Now, the explanation was, well,

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00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: we want Reese to play every day. We don't want

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00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: him coming off the bench. We've got Nathaniel Lowe to

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00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: come off the bench and specifically be a bench guy.

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00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: We want rees Higins and JJ Bleda to play every

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00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: day and they're not gonna do that here, so we're

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Speaker 1: going to send both to Louisville. Made sense, But two

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Speaker 1: things have happened since one. Reese Hines has continued his

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Speaker 1: tear in Louisville. What he has done so far at

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00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: tripa A has been an extension of what he did

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00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: in the Cactus League. That might not be worth a ton,

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00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: but it's not worth nothing. Also, the Reds offense so

1107
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: far has stunk. The team as a whole, hasn't The

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00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: Reds offense so far has not been very good. And

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00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: by the way, like this, this is a season with

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00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: the idea is to like make a legitimate charge here

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00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: right like not not sneak in win the division, go

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00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: into the postseason with the head of team like it's

1113
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: I don't think we have to keep stating this every

1114
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: single day, like it's it's pretty obvious what the goals

1115
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: here should be. And when you have goals bigger than

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00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: merely finishing with an above five hundred record or merely

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00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: being competitive, you are a little bit less patient than

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00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: maybe you have been when it comes to the bottom

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00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: end of your roster or positions where you're not getting

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Speaker 1: a lot of offense from Right now, there's a lot

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00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: of positions where the Reds are not getting a lot

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00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: of offense. They have a guy who plays one of

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Speaker 1: those positions, even though they've worked them out in centerfield

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Speaker 1: in Louisville. They have a guy who plays the outfield,

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Speaker 1: who in spring training did nothing but rake and that

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Speaker 1: has continued so far. TRIPA. Now, nobody would be stunned

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00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: if Reesehin's got another opportunity and didn't hit. If you

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00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: don't remember last year and his limited opportunities, rees Hignes

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00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: batted one sixteen. He struck out twenty one times in

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Speaker 1: forty four played appearances. Now the year before, remember he

1131
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: had a whole bunch of home runs in a very

1132
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: short amount of time. But it's fair to be skeptical.

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00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: He is twenty five years old. He has been a

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Speaker 1: part of your at franchise now for a while. Reese

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00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: Signs was drafted by the Reds seven years ago. He's

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00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: not getting any younger. He's not twenty one, twenty two

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00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: years old anymore. He is a guy who has, i think,

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00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: for the most part, done everything you could ask him

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Speaker 1: to do. At the minor league level. He has got

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Speaker 1: nearly two thousand minor league played appearances. He's played in

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00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: over four hundred and fifty minor league games. Isn't a

1142
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: time at the major league level to really figure out

1143
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: what you got here with the dude? Isn't it time

1144
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: here at the major league level to really figure out

1145
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: what you got with the dude when your offense is

1146
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: gasping for help. I don't know the downside here and

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01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: calling out resigns and sending Noel a Marte back or

1148
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: benching TJ. Friedle for what it's worth, I'm not sure

1149
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 1: that comes with a ton of downside. You might argue

1150
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: that TJ. Friedel has enough of a track record that

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01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: they should give him more than just ten games, and maybe,

1152
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: but like, how good is that track record? How good

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01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: is this good? What would be the harmon try trying

1154
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: out to resigns and specifically in right field with Noelve Marte?

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01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: What would be the harmon trying resigns? Like if you

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01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: have a dude who showed up in spring training kind

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01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: of remade his body, maybe rededicated himself physically, did nothing

1158
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: but hit, and that has continued and your team is

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01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: struggling as bad as it is offensively, is there any

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01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: reason and to not bring him up? He may not

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01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: be a savior. Not sure the Reds are looking for

1162
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: a savior. Their saviors are the guys on the mound.

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01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: But what they're doing offensively has the team walking a tightrope.

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01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: How much longer can they walk the tightrope before they

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01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: fall off? How much longer can they not hit before

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Speaker 1: it's time to make a change. When you've got a

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Speaker 1: dude who's done nothing but hit spring training and early

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Speaker 1: in the season in the minor leagues, how do you

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Speaker 1: not give him an opportunity? If he makes the most

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Speaker 1: of it, great if he doesn't. I think you at

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Speaker 1: least have a pretty good idea of what you have.

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Speaker 1: Twenty nine minutes after four o'clock, your phone calls a

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Speaker 1: little bit later on five point three seven, four nine,

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty. So you can't have a Final four, which

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Speaker 1: ended last night with Michigan winning the national title. You

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01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: can have a final four or without ongoing discussions about

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Speaker 1: how to fix college basketball. The President of the United

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Speaker 1: States issued an executive order aimed at quote fixing college warts.

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Speaker 1: How legally binding is it? And is tiger Wood's going

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01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: to go to jail? Our legal expert, attorney Stewart W.

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Speaker 1: Penrose from the Manila Log Group joins us.

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Speaker 4: Next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic from the.

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Speaker 10: and police on the scene. By Rich Repp with traffic.

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Speaker 1: Reds and Marlins Tonight in Miami, Andrew Abbott Sandy Alcontra

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Speaker 1: six forty Tonight's first pitch seven hundred WLW I just

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Speaker 1: saw sincere Harris the latest UC player to put his

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Speaker 1: name in the transfer portal. Columbus skates at Detroit Tonight,

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Speaker 1: Cyclone skate at Wheeling. We do this on Tuesdays. We

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Speaker 1: check in with our sports legal analyst, attorney Stewart W.

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Speaker 1: Penrose from the Manila Law Group, who is flying high.

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01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: Maybe didn't even sleep at all last night. He was

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Speaker 1: in Indy his beloved Michigan Wolverines win a national championship.

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Speaker 1: I want to know what you're feeling right now, Stewart,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 2: I feel fantastic. I feel exhausted.

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Speaker 11: I was there with my dad.

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Speaker 12: It was a great moment for us. I've been blessed

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Speaker 12: to be at most recent two Michigan football titles and

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Speaker 12: now basketball. Drove home after the game, slept just a

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Speaker 12: few hours, and I'll say it's good. It's a good thing.

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Speaker 12: This is in a morning show mode because I had

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Speaker 12: zero voice until about the last couple of hours.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it was an unbelievable Yeah. Yeah, I'm envious.

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Speaker 1: I want to feel this one day, just one day

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Speaker 1: in my life. But I'll enjoy it through you nonetheless.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about let's talk about what's next

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Speaker 1: for college sports. So last week as you know, the

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Speaker 1: President of the United States signed an executive order and

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Speaker 1: this is his second one aiming at quote fixing college sports.

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Speaker 1: But this one had some specifics to it. Laid out

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Speaker 1: some transfer and eligibility rules, laid out some limits for

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Speaker 1: nil threatened schools that violate rules with specific financial penalties.

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Speaker 1: All this came down on Fridays, So I guess a

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Speaker 1: lot of us are asking the same question, which is

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Speaker 1: what now and how binding is this?

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 2: What now?

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Speaker 12: Or more legal challenges? You know, President Trump himself came

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Speaker 12: up and came out and said, you know, we'll see

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Speaker 12: how this holds up in court. It might not, and

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Speaker 12: you know, sounds like he understands that. And you know,

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Speaker 12: you know, executive orders telling a federal agency how to operate.

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Speaker 12: It's it's not a law passed by Congress. It's you know,

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Speaker 12: not directly bonding on schools, you know, on conferences or

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Speaker 12: the inc double a. They don't have to automatically comply. Certainly,

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Speaker 12: it seems like the endgame here is to you know,

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Speaker 12: create pressure on Congress to you know, to work to

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Speaker 12: try to make some real changes to college sports here.

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Speaker 12: And you know, it seems that that's the end goal.

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Speaker 12: Whether this has any real meaning.

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Speaker 2: To it at the end of the day.

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Speaker 12: You know, only time will tell.

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Speaker 1: There was an executive order signed last year that was

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Speaker 1: aimed at and I put this in quotes because this

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Speaker 1: was in the executive order aimed at, quote, saving college sports.

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Speaker 1: Did that executive or end up having any impact?

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Speaker 12: Well, it's kind of like what's happening with this new

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01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 12: executive order. It's trying to keep pressure on the issue

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Speaker 12: to push the conversation forward. And that's what President Trump

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Speaker 12: is clearly trying to do here, so, you know, more

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Speaker 12: or less mode, it's sort of setting the agenda instead

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Speaker 12: of changing the rules overnight. He's trying to keep pressure

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Speaker 12: on the issue to make something happen here, you know.

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Speaker 12: But it's not something that's going to change things overnight here.

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Speaker 12: There's not an easy button here. It's not going to

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Speaker 12: override state laws. It's not going to immediately stop all

1262
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Speaker 12: these anti trust lawsuits. But if Congress will eventually ask you,

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Speaker 12: then there could be some real change here.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Tiger Woods charge with dui, which this

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Speaker 1: is the second time he has faced a dui charge,

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Speaker 1: the first being twenty seventeen. Back then he was found

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Speaker 1: asleep at the wheel of a car parked to the

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Speaker 1: middle of the street in Florida, and he later plied

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Speaker 1: guilty to reckless driving and he entered a diversion program

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Speaker 1: as part of that deal. He now faces DUI. We'll

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Speaker 1: see how this unfolds. Is he going to end up

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Speaker 1: facing larger, larger consequences because of him being a quote

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Speaker 1: repeat offender.

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Speaker 12: Possibly even though he got a diversion program last time,

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01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 12: they can still look at the you know, what he

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Speaker 12: was charged with and what the conduct was, and you know,

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01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 12: not necessarily be treated the same as a as a

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01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 12: true first time offender. So it could it could influence

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Speaker 12: how much discretion the prosecutors may have, how the judge

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Speaker 12: may sentence. It could make diversion less likely or simply

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Speaker 12: not available to him. So yes, certainly, certainly it can

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Speaker 12: impact of the case goes along.

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Speaker 1: Here for Tiger, he didn't take the urine analysis test,

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Speaker 1: he didn't blow me above a zero point zero, so

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Speaker 1: doesn't appear that there was any alcohol in his system.

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Speaker 1: So how does the prosecution prove impairment?

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Speaker 12: Yes, well, first offers Tiger's smart is not taking year intest,

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01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 12: you know, or they're allowed to use the the refusal

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01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 12: as an argument against you, and they can say, hey,

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Speaker 12: you know, you know, if you were, if you were sober,

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Speaker 12: why didn't you take the urine test. But at the

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Speaker 12: same time he's refusing to give him the hard evidence.

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Speaker 12: It makes it a lot harder to prosecute that case.

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Speaker 12: But it's not impossible. They can still use the body

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01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 12: cam's mo they can use whatever other fields of varriety

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Speaker 12: test we're taken of Tiger officer observations. You know, perhaps

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Speaker 12: they could use the awesome one miner he's delivered up.

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Speaker 12: I'm sorry, I was just talking to president. You know,

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Speaker 12: there are there are other things that they can use

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Speaker 12: for him there, but he was smart to not give

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Speaker 12: him heart evidence. And let's be honest, if you're Tiger Woods,

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Speaker 12: you have you're going to have an excellent lawyer that's

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Speaker 12: going to you know, represent you the best of his abilities,

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01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 12: and you know, if there's no hard evidence, then that's

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Speaker 12: that's a nice win for Tiger.

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Speaker 1: That's that part of it. So the other motorists involved here, Now,

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Speaker 1: what I've read indicates that he doesn't plan on filing

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Speaker 1: any civil litigation, but he has hired a lawyer. If

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01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: he's not planning on suing Tiger Why would he hire

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Speaker 1: a lawyer?

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Speaker 12: My understanding is that he hired a lawyer to make

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Speaker 12: a personal injury claim, you know, which, which is what

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Speaker 12: I do for a little I'm a personal injury attorney,

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Speaker 12: and you know, most cases model are settled outside of

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Speaker 12: court through insurance claims. I have no idea what this

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01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 12: person's injuries are, and you know what their treatment is

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01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 12: and what they're claiming. But you know, if Tiger Woods

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01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 12: is certainly going to have good insurance to collect from,

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01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 12: so you know, we'll see if that ends in a

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Speaker 12: in an insurance settlement or if a necessitates a lawsuit.

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Speaker 12: You know that that's not something that's you know, known

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Speaker 12: right away and you know takes time.

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Speaker 1: As it goes along. Are there I know you don't

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Speaker 1: practice in Florida, but are there laws or statutes that

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01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: make this unique to Florida to complicate this case?

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Speaker 12: Yes, I mean certainly, like I said before, his refusal

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Speaker 12: to take to take the urine test, I believe that

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Speaker 12: there's an automatic license suspension there for him. With you

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01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 12: can still get driving privileges for you know, work essentials,

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Speaker 12: what have you, and your refusal can be used against

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01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 12: you in court that said, you know, you gave the

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Speaker 12: government an argument, but you refuse to give them the

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Speaker 12: hard evidence. Most offense lawyers will take.

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Speaker 2: That trade off.

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Speaker 1: He's got a checker driving history. Could that be a

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Speaker 1: factor in this case?

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Speaker 12: Certainly, certainly to look at his dragon history. Obviously the

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01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 12: past dui even though it was negotiated down. But yes,

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Speaker 12: his dragon history will come into play here when it

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Speaker 12: comes time to you know, what might ultimately be offered

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Speaker 12: to him and what his ultimate sentence could be.

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Speaker 1: He's still flying high. I for last night's Michigan National

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01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: title victory. Attorney Stewart W. Penrose from the Manila Law

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Speaker 1: Group love having you. Will do it again next week, man,

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01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: thanks so much, Thank you both. That's our guy. Stuart W.

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Speaker 1: Penrose from the Manila Law Group. Go to Manilolawgroup dot

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Speaker 1: com seventeen away from five o'clock. Speaking of the national

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Speaker 1: title game, we'll talk about it and what's next in

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Speaker 1: college basketball? Coming up on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 1: out Micklodolo in the five o'clock hour, maybe more specifically

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Speaker 1: help out the Red title game. Last night, I gotta

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01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:06,759
Speaker 1: be honest with you. For the most part, I loved

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Speaker 1: how that game was played, because if you like games

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Speaker 1: where the officials let him play, the officials let him play.

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Speaker 1: Last night, Yukon's game plan was executed really, really well.

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01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: They wanted to make it a low possession game. We

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Speaker 1: talked about this yesterday. In their tournament run, they played

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Speaker 1: against teams that play at a slow pace. Michigan does

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Speaker 1: not twenty second an adjusted pace. Yukon slowed them down.

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Speaker 1: There were a handful of times we're using some full

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Speaker 1: core pressure. Michigan tried to speed the game up, and

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Speaker 1: they did it without a lot of success. Connecticut was

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01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: going to have to make that game ugly. They just

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01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 1: missed a lot of threes in the second half, and

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Speaker 1: Michigan was complicit in keeping Connecticut closed because they also

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Speaker 1: took a lot of bad shots. It was an ugly

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01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 1: shooting game. It was also a game where it never

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01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 1: really felt like Yukon was going to be able to

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Speaker 1: get over the hump. Michigan wins the national title. The

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01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: final four honestly was a little bit of a letdown

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01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: relative to the quality of play for most of the tournament.

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01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: I still think it was a terrific tournament, and I

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01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: know we spent some time, you know, listening to people

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01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: complain about lack of upsets, that sort of thing. College

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01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 1: basketball was on fire this year. Many have looked at

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01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: Michigan with Dusty main in a second year and they go, well, look,

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01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 1: see see the days of four and five year plans

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01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: are over. Good now, I'm the first to admit that

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01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: one of the really fun things about being a fan

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01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 1: of a specific college basketball program was watching players develop.

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01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: You know, I can use the example of Kenyon Martin.

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01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 1: Kenyon Martin's freshman year. I remember it well. I was

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01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: a college student. I called the Bob Huggins Show as

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01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: a college student to ask about Kenyon Martin, When's he

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01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 1: gonna play? Why can he play? And then when he

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01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: put him in the game, which didn't happen all that often,

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01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 1: the dude couldn't play. By his second year, he was

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01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: very good defensively, Conference USA Defensive Player of the Year.

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01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 1: You still couldn't throw him the ball. His junior year

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01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 1: he started to have some hef to his offensive game

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01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 1: and he was an elite defensive player in his senior year.

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01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: Is the best player in the sport? Watching evolution like that,

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01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: watching it with Gary Clark. Gary Clark is one of

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01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 1: my three all time favorite UC players and a guy

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01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 1: who by the end of his fourth season, you just

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01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 1: feel like you had a fan relationship with right and

1410
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: you just you look at those kids differently than you

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01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 1: do these one or two year guys. But we're not

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01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 1: doing four or five year plans anymore, by the way.

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01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: You know what fans don't want four or five year plans.

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01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: We as people, certainly we as sports fans have never

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01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 1: been less patient. I think it's awesome where in an

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01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: era where you can get things turned around very very quickly.

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01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: Jared Calhoun. By the way, they just announced the composition

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01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 1: of his staff, and we'll have that for you in

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01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 1: the next hour. Jared Calhoun. We'll see who he adds

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Speaker 1: to the team. My assumption all along, and maybe a

1421
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: incorrect has been he's gonna have a brand new team

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01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 1: with no one from last year. We'll see if that

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01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: ends up being the case. But now we expect the

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01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: quick turnaround year one, year two, which is what we

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01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: have wanted all along, four or five year plans. Really

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01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 1: what fan wants that uh uh, give me the one

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01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: or two year turnaround. You could argue it's never been

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01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: easier to have it. So we'll see. I you know,

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01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:33,799
Speaker 1: it's it's impossible to have an NCAA tournament outcome without somebody,

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01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: you know, picking apart. How well, See the Michigan just

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01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 1: goes to show the quick fix works.

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Speaker 2: Cool.

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01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,839
Speaker 1: Great, Make it work here, make it work at Xavier,

1434
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,560
Speaker 1: make it work at Kentucky, make it work at you

1435
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: see a four or five year plan is not something

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01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: we want anymore. You mentioned in any sport now and

1437
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 1: why it's going to be about a five year plan,

1438
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: like bro it ain't nineteen eighty two. Man, let's go.

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01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: I think the cool thing about college basketball now and

1440
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: nobody is for there being no rules, but it has

1441
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: never been more doable to get something turned around quickly.

1442
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: Michigan did it. Maybe did it to extreme degrees, but

1443
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: they did it. Good for them. Brendanman and Jones on

1444
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: Baseball next.

1445
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 7: ESPN fifteen thirty. That's Cincinnati Sports Station.

1446
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: It's not five oh five. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.

1447
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 1: Mo Edgar, thank you for listening. Hopefully you're having like

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01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: the most awesome Tuesday afternoon ever, hope, So thanks for

1449
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 1: spending part of it with us. We've got more Bengals

1450
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 1: roster weirdness we have to talk about, and a question

1451
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 1: that you cannot help but ask yet again that a

1452
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 1: little bit later on Red's and Marlins tonight, good pitching

1453
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 1: matchup Andrew Abbot, who is not great in his last

1454
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: doubting against Sandy Alcntra, who so far this season has

1455
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 1: been lights out. Reds looking for a fifth consecutive victory.

1456
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 1: The two things that stood out most last night. Number one,

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01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: Brandon Williamson, whose first start did not go great. The

1458
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: change up he was using last night tied the Marlins

1459
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 1: hitters up in knots. I also love how the Reds

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01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 1: created their first run. Ellie Delacruz hits an Ellie Delacruz double,

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01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: basically a ground ball to the outfield, a hustle double

1462
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 1: if you will, charging hard out of the box, running decisively,

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01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:33,759
Speaker 1: turning the corner at first base, barreling towards second, making

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01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: it easily, creating a scoring opportunity with his legs, with

1465
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: his hustle, and Sal Stewart cashing in to drive in

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01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: the first run of the game. By the way, I

1467
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 1: think Charlie Goldsmith pointed this out on social media last night.

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01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 1: That's why that sequence there is why you have Sal

1469
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: Stewart patting behind Ellie Delacruz instead of a Uhanio Souarez.

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01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: They got good bullpen work. They don't make an air

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01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 1: for a tenth consecutive game. They're seven to three, and

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to love about that. God knows, there

1473
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: have been tons of seasons in our lifetime. Recently where

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01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 1: the Reds have sunk in themselves before we get to

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01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: mid April, that doesn't appear likely to be the case.

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01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 1: Although it's only been ten games, they are winning in

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01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 1: spite of their offense or lack thereof. It's remarkable this

1478
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: team this season already we've played ten games already, this

1479
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: team this season has four victories in games where they

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01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: have only scored two runs. You're lucky to have four

1481
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 1: of those in like a month and a half. For

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01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: two months or maybe a half a season. Four in

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01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 1: the first week and a half of the season where

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01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: they've scored two runs and still one. That is great,

1485
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: And it's an example of how this team can win

1486
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 1: with its starting pitching, by playing clean baseball, by not

1487
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 1: making mistakes in the field, by not committing errors, by

1488
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: not shrinking the margin for error. All of those things

1489
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 1: can be said, all of those things can be celebrated.

1490
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: But you cannot help but wonder when is the lack

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01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: of offense gonna catch up to it? When is the

1492
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: lack of offense gonna catch up to this team? When

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Speaker 1: is the lack of offense gonna sink this team? When

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01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: is the lack of offense gonna become a more pressing

1495
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 1: issue than you could argue it is right now. Now

1496
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 1: I'm making it sound inevitable, but like, you can't help

1497
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 1: but do this, And this isn't designed to be pessimistic.

1498
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 1: I'm a naturally optimistic person and the good has outweighed

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01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: the bad so far this year. But like, we want

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01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: the Reds to make the postseason and advance, right, can

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01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 1: that happen with this team continuing to not hit? Now

1502
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: you may go all Jerry Nairn on me and pat

1503
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: me on the head and insist, mo, this team's going

1504
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: to hit. And there are players who, if you look

1505
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 1: at the totals they've put up so far, I'm sure

1506
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 1: are going to perform better. But I guess there's a

1507
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: few things here that you can't help. But ask one

1508
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: is when will they hit? If you believe it's a

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01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: matter of when and not if? Okay, when will they hit?

1510
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: And by the time they do hit, when will it

1511
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 1: start to cost him? Brandon Williamson was tremendous last night,

1512
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 1: and Chase Burns on Easter Sunday was beyond terrific, and

1513
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: he's been terrific in his first two starts. Chase Burns

1514
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: looks like a guy who can be a staff Ace

1515
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 1: like just has the presence, has the stuff. Everything about

1516
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: him just screams future Ace. He's gonna need better health,

1517
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna need more luck, but everything about him screams

1518
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,799
Speaker 1: long term Ace. And Rhet Louder was terrific on Saturday.

1519
01:20:56,080 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: But you're asking your really young starting pitcher to essentially

1520
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: be perfect. That's not sustainable. I mean, you're asking these

1521
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: guys to take them ount while they are recovering from injury.

1522
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 1: Recovering from injury is not the right word, but while

1523
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,560
Speaker 1: they're coming back from injury, while they're dealing with a

1524
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 1: lack of experience, while they're still learning the ropes in

1525
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 1: the big leagues, some more so than others. You're asking

1526
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,640
Speaker 1: them to do all that in your OSCO, asking that

1527
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: they be pretty much perfect because the team is not hitting.

1528
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 1: That's not sustainable. So, yeah, man, awesome that they're winning

1529
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 1: right now. It's awesome. And this can't be emphasized enough.

1530
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: You should be enjoying the hell out of this seven

1531
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 1: and three start. Forget the standings, forget what the Brewers

1532
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: are doing right now. Just they've used the first ten

1533
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: games of the season to not sink themselves, and they

1534
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: have found ways to win in spite of a massive deficiency.

1535
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 1: But you cannot help but ask a couple of different things.

1536
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 1: The first one is when will that deficiency catch up

1537
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: to him? When will the lack of offense become a

1538
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 1: bigger problem that it's been so far, and that I

1539
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 1: guess more specifically, how do they fix the offense? Like

1540
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 1: they're not trading from the outside, they're not going and

1541
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 1: getting a dude in free agency, and the fact that

1542
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: you kind of wish they could speaks to how relatively

1543
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 1: incomplete the offseason was. Reese Hines is being talked about.

1544
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: I think it's time to bring up Reshins. I don't

1545
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: think there's a good argument against bringing up Reshigns. Quite frankly,

1546
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,759
Speaker 1: He's been in your system for a while. You've invested

1547
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 1: a lot of time in him. He hit in spring training,

1548
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 1: he's hitting so far this year. You have a lot

1549
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: of guys who aren't hitting. Noel ve Marte doesn't feel

1550
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 1: like he's in everybody's good graces right now. Like you

1551
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 1: bring up Reese Hines and he doesn't hit. He fits

1552
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 1: right in with everybody else. You bring up re Hines

1553
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 1: and what he has done since mid February continues, maybe

1554
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: it can give this offense a jolts at some point, though,

1555
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 1: with a guy like that, have to figure out what

1556
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 1: you have. Why not figure out what you have? While

1557
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: he could still provide some help. Even beyond that, you

1558
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: have a lot of guys that you're asking more from.

1559
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: And I know I did this about an hour ago,

1560
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: But you look at some of these dudes, and you

1561
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 1: look at how they performed to start the season, and

1562
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:23,440
Speaker 1: you can't help but wonder how much is their respective

1563
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 1: starts to the season and extension of how poorly they

1564
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 1: performed toward the end of last season. It's not unlike

1565
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 1: how we talk about Andrew Abboit now. Andrew arabbit An

1566
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: opening day was terrific, but when he pitched poorly in

1567
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: the spring, you thought, man, you know what, second half

1568
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 1: of the season last year he wasn't great. They kind

1569
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:43,719
Speaker 1: of need him to be the first half. Andrew Abbot,

1570
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: how much are early season struggle is going to reflect

1571
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,600
Speaker 1: a continuation of the issues he had toward the end

1572
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 1: of the season in twenty twenty five. Noel a Marte

1573
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: is not hitting. Noel A Marte down the stretch last

1574
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 1: year didn't hit TJ. Friedel's not hitting TJ. Friedel in

1575
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 1: second half last year, really didn't hit Austin Hayes, has

1576
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 1: never hit. Spencer Steer last season put up league average ops,

1577
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 1: he's not hitting Tyler Stevenson last year offensively left a

1578
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: lot to be desired, same as the case last night's

1579
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: home run. Notwithstanding this year. So this is the topic

1580
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 1: right now. This is the thing that you can't help

1581
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: but discuss and amid the excitement over a seven and

1582
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 1: three start and the excitement over the long promised leaning

1583
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: into defense and pitching thing becoming a reality. And it's worked,

1584
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 1: and they've been extraordinarily fun to watch. But the offense

1585
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: has to be better. When will it get better? What

1586
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: will it cost this team in the interim before it

1587
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 1: gets better? How does it get better? What happens if

1588
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't get better? How long can you ask guys

1589
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 1: like Burns and Louder and Williamson, who each seem to

1590
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 1: have very bright big league futures, who each seem to

1591
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: have a chance to have very good seasons this year?

1592
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 1: How much longer can you ask those guys to be

1593
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 1: all but perfect? Because that's what they're doing right now.

1594
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 1: They're having to play perfect baseball in the field. Chances

1595
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 1: are at some point they're gonna make an error. You're

1596
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 1: asking Tito to press every right button with the bullpen,

1597
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 1: and you're asking those guys to be perfect. With the

1598
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: way they're not hitting, they've got to hit more. Like

1599
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: that is almost inarguable, not even almost inarguable, It is inarguable.

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01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: They've got to hit more. When will it happen, How

1601
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: will it happen? What happens if it doesn't happen anytime soon?

1602
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: Quarter after five, first hour of this show. Awesome conversation

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01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 1: as always with Paul Danner Junior from The Athletic and

1604
01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 1: the Growler podcast, mainly centered around the draft. We are

1605
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 1: sixteen days away from the NFL Draft, Bengals with the

1606
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 1: tenth overall pick. We talked yesterday about Jeremiah Love making

1607
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 1: a visit. The Bengals absolutely did the right thing by

1608
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 1: having Jeremiah Love in for a visit. Paul put it

1609
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 1: this way, you want to know who you're picking, you

1610
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: also want to know who you're not picking. There's no

1611
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 1: harm in bringing him in and the Bengals, and you know,

1612
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: Paul outlined this for us. The whole conversation is available

1613
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,600
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app, and Paul outlined for us like

1614
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 1: when the Bengals bring in players for visits, they don't

1615
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 1: really engage in the whole smoke screen game where they're

1616
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,839
Speaker 1: trying to outwit the other teams by bringing in players

1617
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 1: that they really have no designs on drafting, just to

1618
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, throw the throw other teams off the send,

1619
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:56,959
Speaker 1: so to speak. But auh, boy, just I love Jeremiah

1620
01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 1: Love as a player. I think I mentioned this yesterday.

1621
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 1: I gave him one of my three Heisman votes this year.

1622
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 1: And in a different world, hell yeah, take him at

1623
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:13,720
Speaker 1: your arsenal. But like the Bengals, let Matt Lee go again, Well,

1624
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: let they let Matt Lee go today? Another player from

1625
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 1: that twenty twenty four draft class which has yielded next

1626
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: to nothing aside from Mamrius Mims. Now, Eric all may

1627
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 1: change that, and I certainly hope he could stay healthy

1628
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 1: enough to get a legitimate chance to stick with this team.

1629
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: But man, that twenty twenty four draft class, yikes, Matt

1630
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 1: Lee let go today? So you're still trying to make

1631
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:44,759
Speaker 1: up for things you didn't do in previous drafts. On defense,

1632
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: drafting a running back even one as amazingly talented as

1633
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love feels like the quintessential luxury pick, and he

1634
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 1: can't help but ask man like, how could a team

1635
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: that is missed the postseason each of the last three years,

1636
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 1: specifically the last two in a large part because of

1637
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 1: its historically bad defense do what it's done so far

1638
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 1: this offseason leave one position totally untouched and then add

1639
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 1: a running back to an offense that's pass first when

1640
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 1: they already have a quote featured running back. It's nothing

1641
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 1: against Jeremiah Love, just that maybe a very myopic and

1642
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 1: short sighted way of looking at things, but that doesn't

1643
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 1: mean it's an unreasonable or unfair or incorrect way of

1644
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 1: looking at things. And it maybe that's on the table

1645
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 1: for them. I don't know. I do think Paul made

1646
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: up a very good point in the first hour, and

1647
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 1: again I encourage you to listen to the entire hour.

1648
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: It's podcast on the iHeartRadio app. He dives in the

1649
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 1: cornerback and it's it's interesting, you know, we talk a

1650
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:58,560
Speaker 1: lot about Dax Hill and DJ Turner. DJ Turner was

1651
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 1: an excellent player last year and Dax Hill, it finally

1652
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 1: feels like he has his home at corner. The history

1653
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 1: of this team, with the exception of T Higgins and

1654
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, and remember for a long time T Higgins

1655
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:15,679
Speaker 1: was not in their plan. The history of this team

1656
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 1: is that they don't sign contract extensions to multiple players

1657
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 1: who play the same position. So understanding that would lead

1658
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 1: you to a place where you really look hard at

1659
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 1: corner to give them another guy for twenty twenty six,

1660
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 1: maybe somebody they can plug in the slot, Maybe somebody

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01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:42,759
Speaker 1: who's just a depth piece, maybe somebody they move around,

1662
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 1: but also down the road, replacing one of the two

1663
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 1: cornerbacks who were on the team in twenty twenty five.

1664
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 1: Eighteen after five, we have Nicklodolo's blisters, which we talked

1665
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:56,719
Speaker 1: about a little bit last week. I have an idea

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Speaker 1: and it's it's not a very original idea, but I'll

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01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 1: share it and will take some phone calls coming up

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Speaker 1: This report is Therry is going to join us to

1682
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 1: talk some Bengals draft possibilities and maybe get his thoughts

1683
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:56,679
Speaker 1: on some things that have happened in free agency.

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01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 2: It is.

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01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 1: It's interesting that the male lead thing will take calls

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01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 1: here in justine second. We have folks who have been

1687
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 1: waiting patiently. The Matt Lee thing is is weird because

1688
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 1: they let Lucas Patrick leave. He went and signed with

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01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 1: the New York Giants, and I don't know how good

1690
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 1: Matt Lee would have been, but releasing him as it's

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01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 1: another guy from that twenty four draft class that hasn't

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01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: worked out b it creates a need for a backup

1693
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 1: center behind Ted Carris, which maybe they'll be able to get.

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01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:26,760
Speaker 1: But it's just it's weird. Not so much with Matt Lee,

1695
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 1: but like you know, Al Golden had some on the

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01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:37,679
Speaker 1: record quotes at the Combine about needing a linebacker. Quote,

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01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:39,640
Speaker 1: I would prefer to add another piece and have that

1698
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 1: veteran wisdom and all those things. So far they haven't

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01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:48,799
Speaker 1: done that. Darren Simmons went on the record about Tyson

1700
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 1: Anderson talking about how he brings versatility to the table.

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01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 1: Would love to keep him, talked about what he provides

1702
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:05,759
Speaker 1: those special teams having somebody who has a great understanding

1703
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 1: of everything they're trying to do, basically quarterback of the

1704
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 1: punt return team, and Tyson Anderson's now at Denver Bronco doesn't.

1705
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: There doesn't seem to be and man, I could be

1706
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 1: dead wrong about this. There doesn't seem to be complete

1707
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 1: alignment with well all facets of the organization. You have

1708
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:32,600
Speaker 1: coaches on the record saying things that they would like

1709
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:35,719
Speaker 1: to see happen that haven't And in this particular instance,

1710
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 1: with Darren Simmons going out of his way to talk

1711
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 1: effusively about a player that he wants to keep, that

1712
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 1: the team lets get away not on a multi year

1713
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 1: deal either, one year, one point five million dollars. And

1714
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 1: by the way, Zach Taylor last week took one for

1715
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:53,839
Speaker 1: the franchise, which he often has to do because ownership

1716
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,719
Speaker 1: wouldn't talk at the owner's meetings, and Zach Taylor tried

1717
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 1: to sell everybody on the idea that they're comfortable with

1718
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 1: Carter Night of what they've done so far a linebacker.

1719
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 1: And that's not to say they're not comfortable with those players.

1720
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:08,759
Speaker 1: They probably should be since they drafted them. I cannot

1721
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 1: imagine any coach who has any stake in what they

1722
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 1: do at linebacker is thrilled with what they haven't done

1723
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:20,640
Speaker 1: so far at that position. Thanks to those who have

1724
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 1: waited patiently. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty

1725
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 1: John and Finley, you're on ESPN fifteen thirty. John, Good afternoon.

1726
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 1: How are you.

1727
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 2: Doing good?

1728
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 3: How are you mo?

1729
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 1: Wonderful man? What's up? Well?

1730
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 9: I just wanted to just talk about how refreshing it is.

1731
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 9: I mean, how many times in the last I don't know,

1732
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:44,679
Speaker 9: decade or twenty years or so, can we say after

1733
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 9: ten games that were kind of in a pretty good place,

1734
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 9: I mean normally by this point in season, we're already

1735
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 9: bringing our hands and already talking about must wins and

1736
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 9: stuff like that and not not getting too far behind.

1737
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 9: And that still could be the case, and I hope

1738
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 9: I'm not jasing things, but it's just it's nice to see.

1739
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 9: And granted we still see a lot of room for

1740
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 9: improvement or obviously in the offense, but at this point

1741
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 9: to to have seven wins already out of ten games,

1742
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 9: and it seems like if one of those things too

1743
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 9: that and you probably you get this feeling too. You

1744
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 9: You just have a feeling when you have certain teams.

1745
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 9: It's like you get to the latter stage of a

1746
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 9: game and you either feel pretty good about things or

1747
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 9: you feel pretty bad. And it seems like with this team,

1748
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 9: just you turn and get that vibe that, hey, these

1749
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 9: guys kind of know how to how to finish games

1750
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 9: and how to win games and stuff like that. So

1751
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 9: that's that's kind of a nice thing.

1752
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 1: It's it's nice to to it's nice to watch them

1753
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 1: not get in their own way. Now their offensive issues

1754
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 1: are impossible to ignore, but it's it's nice to watch

1755
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:57,599
Speaker 1: them not give teams four outs in a later inning

1756
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 1: because they make an error. It's it's not nice to

1757
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 1: watch them do the right things on the base pass.

1758
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 1: It's nice to watch them make plays in the field

1759
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 1: that don't necessarily show up in the box score, like

1760
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 1: Sal Stewart throwing out Brandon Nemo on Sunday. It's nice

1761
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 1: to see them have I think a decent variety of

1762
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 1: options in the bullpen. And you're right, like last year's

1763
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 1: team started three and seven, imagine if they start five

1764
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: and five, how the end of the season is managed

1765
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 1: and handled, and maybe they have more of a chance

1766
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 1: going into the postseason to actually compete with the Dodgers.

1767
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 1: We've had a lot of seasons, you know, go back

1768
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:36,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two they started two and eight. It just

1769
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:39,639
Speaker 1: it's sunk the season. Twenty nineteen they started I think

1770
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 1: one in eight. They have had so many years where

1771
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 1: you feel like you're just you're doing everything you can

1772
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 1: to scratch and claw just to get back to five hundred.

1773
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 1: That may still be the case. They could lose like

1774
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:52,600
Speaker 1: the next nine games and they're gonna have to do that,

1775
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 1: but they've avoided that so far, and it is a

1776
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 1: huge credit to them that they have found ways to

1777
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 1: win games where they're not scoring a ton of runs.

1778
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 1: That doesn't ignore the fact that they're going to have

1779
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 1: to score more runs.

1780
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,839
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I think I mean, if you had your brothers,

1781
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:10,680
Speaker 9: if you had to say, Okay, we're going to be

1782
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 9: really strong in one facet of our team. I think

1783
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 9: starting pitching. You're always going to pick that along with

1784
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 9: the bullpen, because that's just the way baseball's set up.

1785
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:24,640
Speaker 9: But yeah, and I mean, you hope to think that

1786
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 9: the offense is going to come and noybody stretches during

1787
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 9: the season where they'll hit four or five home runs

1788
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 9: in a game or whatever, They'll string together a bunch

1789
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 9: of hits and it's just not happening right now. But

1790
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:43,719
Speaker 9: we still have I think the guys that are hitting

1791
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 9: are the right guys. I mean, you talk about South

1792
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 9: Stewart and then I mean Ellie just a couple of

1793
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 9: key plays over the weekend. I mean the ball the

1794
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:56,680
Speaker 9: basically the single hit the right center field where he

1795
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 9: scores the first base. I mean, that's just that's insanity.

1796
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 9: I mean, and it wasn't he didn't even make a

1797
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 9: throw to home. I mean it wasn't even contested.

1798
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're they're hustle plays and they're smart like,

1799
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't. You don't get the sense that

1800
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 1: when he does stuff like that, it's even like stretching

1801
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 1: the single into a double yesterday. You don't get the

1802
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:16,719
Speaker 1: you don't get the sense that he's pushing the envelope

1803
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 1: too much. He's not even really coming close to the

1804
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 1: line that separates aggressiveness from stupidity. He's just he's hustling.

1805
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 1: It's you know, he's I mean, it sounds simple, it's

1806
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 1: what you want from every player, but he's he's running hard.

1807
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: And when a fast guy runs hard, the results we've

1808
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:33,720
Speaker 1: seen so far this year end up playing themselves out.

1809
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 1: I think we're all thrilled with the start of the season.

1810
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 1: Ellie has had It's gotten on base in nine of

1811
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 1: the first ten games. You mentioned Sal Stewart. But they

1812
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 1: need somebody else. They need they need they need somebody

1813
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 1: to get on base more consistently at the top of

1814
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 1: the order. They haven't gotten that from TJ. Friedel. It's

1815
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 1: been sort of hit or miss with Matt McClain, and

1816
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 1: the production from the lower part of the batting order

1817
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 1: has been a knee mick and that's putting it mildly well.

1818
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 9: And one thing he got a credit the front office

1819
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 9: four is adding some of those bullpen arms, because I mean,

1820
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:07,600
Speaker 9: we can already see ten games into the season. This

1821
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 9: team's bullpen is going to be taxed all season long.

1822
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 9: And and that's even counting Zach Maxwell and a couple

1823
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 9: other guys in the in Louisville. They're going to be

1824
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 9: up at some point because you just can't. You can't

1825
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 9: keep going to the bullpen four or five innings every night. Now,

1826
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 9: the last couple of days, you've gotten six innings out

1827
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 9: of your starter, which is fantastic if you can get

1828
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 9: if you can get six and occasional seven, then we'll

1829
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 9: be fine. But it's when you have those fours and

1830
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 9: fives is when when you really get into your bullpen

1831
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 9: day after day. And the game they won the other

1832
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 9: night with not even having Pegan and Santition available, that

1833
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 9: really shows the depth of your bullpen.

1834
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Pierce Johnson's had one plunker, but I

1835
01:38:56,760 --> 01:39:00,679
Speaker 1: think he's otherwise been fine. Connor Phillips has said one clunker,

1836
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 1: he has otherwise been very good. Brock Burke has been awesome.

1837
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 1: Tony Santion's velocity is down, but it's it's it's not

1838
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: like it's cost them. They You're right at that game

1839
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 1: on Sunday. How many times you know, at Graham Ashcraft

1840
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 1: to the mix, he's been terrific so far. How many

1841
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 1: times in recent vintage could you say, Hey, these three

1842
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 1: relievers who are a high usage, high leverage guys are

1843
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,439
Speaker 1: not available, and they still want a close game. And

1844
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 1: yet because of the starting pitching they got from Chase

1845
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:33,040
Speaker 1: Burns and then the options Tito had in the back

1846
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 1: end of the ball pen available to him being better

1847
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 1: than in previous years, they were able to win that game.

1848
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 9: Yeah. And one of the good problems to have is

1849
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:44,640
Speaker 9: in some in years past, a lot of times you

1850
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 9: wouldn't even have three days in a row that you'd

1851
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 9: even be in a position that you'd have to use

1852
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 9: your closer, and and like there wasn't even it wasn't

1853
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 9: even an issue. Either'd be one of the three games

1854
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:58,680
Speaker 9: you'd just get blown out and you wouldn't even need them.

1855
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 9: But if you can at least be in the game

1856
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:04,879
Speaker 9: every day and force those other guys in the bullpen

1857
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 9: to step up, and a guy like brock Burke, I mean,

1858
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:12,680
Speaker 9: you give guys, you give guys like that opportunities that's

1859
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 9: all they're asking for. And if they can go out

1860
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 9: and do the job, that just makes everything. It makes

1861
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 9: the manager job so much but easier. He can go

1862
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 9: to basically anyone whoever he feels. If there's somehow split

1863
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 9: statistics that work one way or the other, then you've

1864
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 9: got all kinds of options rather than just saying, Okay,

1865
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 9: we got really one or two guys that we really

1866
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 9: want to use at the end of games. If you

1867
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 9: have four or five, that's fantastic.

1868
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:39,880
Speaker 1: No, it is, You're right, And I still believe that

1869
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 1: by the end of the season Connor Phillips is going

1870
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 1: to end up being the closer. And if that happens,

1871
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 1: you know, to me, it just it amplifies the options

1872
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 1: you're going to have. I think it also helps. And

1873
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:52,760
Speaker 1: look in this day and age, guys aren't routinely going

1874
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 1: past seven innings, but they're getting reasonable length and you know,

1875
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 1: Williamson went four and two thirds his first start, louder

1876
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:01,720
Speaker 1: or five the other day. You'd like to see that

1877
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 1: stretched out a little bit more, but they haven't yet

1878
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:06,720
Speaker 1: had to go into their bullpen in the second or

1879
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 1: third inning. And that's that's also very very It enables

1880
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 1: you as a manager to sit down to kind of

1881
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:15,600
Speaker 1: map out every single game, even acknowledging that they are

1882
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 1: going to be certain nights where you don't have certain

1883
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 1: guys available, and the key and the.

1884
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:22,640
Speaker 9: Key the last couple of days with Burns and Williamson,

1885
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 9: they get to the fifth and sixth inning, they only

1886
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 9: have fifty or sixty pitches.

1887
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:27,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you're.

1888
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 9: Pitchy fishing rather than getting to like the eighty pitch

1889
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 9: point in the fifth inning. Then you got to come out.

1890
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:35,880
Speaker 1: Now you're you're right about that, John, have a great,

1891
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 1: great night man, Thanks so much.

1892
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 9: No.

1893
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 1: I think when Brady Singer went four in the second game,

1894
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,680
Speaker 1: which is the one they won an extra innings, and

1895
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:46,960
Speaker 1: every other game they've had a starter at least get

1896
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:52,160
Speaker 1: to the fifth. There's if we're to jot down things

1897
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 1: that have gone great, things we like versus things we don't.

1898
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 1: The things we like and things that have gone great,

1899
01:41:57,080 --> 01:42:00,040
Speaker 1: column is is going to outweigh the other one. But

1900
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 1: they got to hit more, and it just and it's

1901
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 1: fair to wonder with some of these guys how much

1902
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 1: of their individual slow starts are an extension of either

1903
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,720
Speaker 1: not very good seasons last year or poor finishes to

1904
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:14,759
Speaker 1: last season. We do have to talk about Nick Lodolo.

1905
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,280
Speaker 1: I just quite simply this move him to the bullpen.

1906
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 1: It's not the most revolutionary idea. I know I'm not

1907
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 1: the only person to say this. If the longer he

1908
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 1: throws in a game, he's more susceptible to a blister

1909
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,200
Speaker 1: than cool, make him a guy who's not going to

1910
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 1: throw more than twenty five or thirty pitches. They've got

1911
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:38,599
Speaker 1: starting pitching options. There have been some who have wandered

1912
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Speaker 1: My brick shrimp with late, but that's okay. Sports headlines

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Speaker 1: Marlins first pitch is just about an hour away on

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Speaker 1: seven hundred wlw Andrew Abbott, Sandy al Contra on the

1940
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Speaker 1: Hill Cincinnati looking for a fifth consecutive victory. Here is

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Speaker 1: the Red starting lineup. I'm not even gonna say it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna I am gonna ban for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the year. You know how we no longer

1944
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 1: reference pitcher wins and losses on this show, and have

1945
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Speaker 1: not I think in ten years. We are no longer

1946
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Speaker 1: going to drop the get out your score cards because

1947
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Speaker 1: nobody is keeping score. If you do fine Cup, Fine Cup,

1948
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Speaker 1: a dollar goes into the fine Cup. Taren, if you

1949
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Speaker 1: hear me say, get out your scorecards, dollar goes into

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Speaker 1: the fine Cup. So here is the red starting lineup, which,

1951
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Speaker 1: let's be honest, if you really want to know what

1952
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Speaker 1: the red starting lineup is, chances are you already know.

1953
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Speaker 1: But this is a full service talk show. So here

1954
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Speaker 1: it is Friedo McClain, Ellie Stuart Suarez. This year Stevenson,

1955
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Speaker 1: Marte Hayes, Abbot is pitching a lot of guys whose

1956
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Speaker 1: names begin with a letter S. Bengals cut center Matt

1957
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Speaker 1: Lee second or seventh round pick in the twenty twenty

1958
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Speaker 1: four draft, played in twenty two games over the last

1959
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Speaker 1: couple of seasons. Keishan Tillery, Moustapha Chom, Sincere Harris among

1960
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:27,759
Speaker 1: UC players reportedly entering the transfer portal. I just assumed

1961
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Speaker 1: when they changed coaches. The new coach was going to

1962
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 1: have an entirely new team. We'll see if that's the case.

1963
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Speaker 1: Jared Calhoun has announced his staff. If I read all

1964
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Speaker 1: the names on it, I will cut into the time

1965
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Speaker 1: of people waiting patiently, and I don't want to do that.

1966
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Speaker 1: Hockey tonight, the Cyclones are on the road against Wheeling,

1967
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Speaker 1: and the Blue Jackets skate at Detroit Columbus, trying to

1968
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Speaker 1: break a six game losing skid. They have gone from

1969
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Speaker 1: I think, making fans feel good about their playoff chances

1970
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Speaker 1: to now they are on no unintended thin ice. Thank you, Karen.

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Speaker 1: How much time do we have in this amazing sports

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Speaker 1: talk radio spectacular. We have six minutes. We have six minutes,

1973
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Speaker 1: and we have three people waiting patiently. We'll give everybody

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Speaker 1: two minutes, starting with Tyler. Tyler, the first two minutes

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Speaker 1: are all yours. You're on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Hi, mo, I guess, but I just.

1977
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Speaker 11: Wanted to start by asking. First off, even with the

1978
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Speaker 11: Reds issues or imperfections with their lineup, do you still

1979
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Speaker 11: think that they're definitively better this year than they.

1980
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Speaker 2: Were last year? I do.

1981
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Speaker 1: I do, because they can win games the way they

1982
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Speaker 1: won Fridays by hitting the long ball. I feel better

1983
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Speaker 1: about them defensively, and they have more starting pitching depth

1984
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Speaker 1: and better bullputions.

1985
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Speaker 11: Okay, yeah, I agree with that. So, like, I'm not

1986
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Speaker 11: worried about their issue scoring runs to this point. First off,

1987
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Speaker 11: I think they face really good pitching in the first.

1988
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Speaker 12: Ten games, no question, and that continues, yes it does unfortunately.

1989
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Speaker 2: But uh and then also.

1990
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Speaker 12: So yeah, those are the two things that I would

1991
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Speaker 12: point out. Like I kind of view it as they have.

1992
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Speaker 11: A little more thump this year than they have I

1993
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Speaker 11: really I think maybe like the there's like a third

1994
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Speaker 11: of the lineup that are you kind of don't know

1995
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Speaker 11: what you're gonna get with, like McClain and Marque, And

1996
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Speaker 11: then I don't know, I just think that they're definitively better,

1997
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Speaker 11: and uh, they face really tough pitching.

1998
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Speaker 12: And then I also I look this up, like.

1999
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Speaker 11: They're averaging under three runs a game right now. That's

2000
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Speaker 11: crazy little number, even even last year's team, which obviously

2001
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Speaker 11: I believe I just said, I don't think they were

2002
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Speaker 11: as good as this group. Last year's team averaged over

2003
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Speaker 11: four runs a game. Even if you take out that

2004
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Speaker 11: big twenty plus run game they had in Baltimore last year.

2005
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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's like I just think it's naturally gonna get better,

2006
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Speaker 12: and I think they are better. So like, yeah, I'm

2007
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Speaker 12: just not panicked.

2008
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Speaker 1: No, I don't, Tyler, thank you, No, I hear you.

2009
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Speaker 1: That is a new timer. Tyler, thank you very much.

2010
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Speaker 1: I appreciate the phone call and hope you call again.

2011
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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not panics, but like, the expectations for

2012
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Speaker 1: this season should be pretty high, and so there's a

2013
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 1: little bit more of a premium on I don't know,

2014
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Speaker 1: like last they have a chance tonight tonight, excuse me,

2015
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 1: they have a chance tonight to equal their longest winning

2016
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 1: streak from last season. We would like to see one

2017
01:48:53,200 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 1: of the things last year's team didn't do. It didn't

2018
01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 1: go in a prolonged stretch were they won like eight

2019
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Speaker 1: team out of twenty two or something like that. It's

2020
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Speaker 1: going to be hard to do that if offensively they

2021
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:09,640
Speaker 1: are stuck in the mud and just it's it's not

2022
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 1: a panic, it's not a blow it up. But like,

2023
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Speaker 1: oh man, these games do counts, and they are asking

2024
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Speaker 1: a lot of young starting pitching and I don't know,

2025
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 1: they need more offense. I mean, it's not that pretty

2026
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 1: blanket statement that I don't think is an anchor. But

2027
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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's panicking, but they they do need

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Speaker 1: more offense. Bob, you're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Bob, good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: How are you well?

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Speaker 8: Well, well, I get to talk to Boegger lucky well

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Speaker 8: long tab listener, love your show, Thank you.

2032
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start. I've got twenty good things one bad thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, we only have two minutes.

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Speaker 8: You started to mo, you're starting to remind me of Chicken.

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01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 8: Little Oh guys that falling with seven and three not

2036
01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 8: three and seven?

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Speaker 1: Do they need to score more runs?

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Speaker 2: They do? But you know what, if you win, that's

2039
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Speaker 2: the whole accounts.

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Speaker 1: Is it more fun to talk about a team's laws

2041
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:03,599
Speaker 1: when it's winning then complain about why a team is losing.

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Speaker 2: I'm just enjoying the winning moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Bob, who is Bob Bob Bob Bob Bob Bob

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Speaker 1: Bob who isn't enjoying the winning The part of talking

2045
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Speaker 1: about a team is more, is more than just hey

2046
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Speaker 1: and agree. You know how bad a talk show would

2047
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Speaker 1: be if every topic was Hey, isn't it great that

2048
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:26,759
Speaker 1: they're winning? Yeah, if I if I did two hours

2049
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Speaker 1: and forty nine minutes of Hey, isn't it great that

2050
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 1: they're winning? Would you have called me today?

2051
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would have, because you know what, I'm enjoying

2052
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:39,880
Speaker 2: the winning we haven't had. It's unusual to win like

2053
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Speaker 2: this in this town. Yeah.

2054
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Speaker 1: No, I wanted to continue. I wanted to continue, and

2055
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:47,559
Speaker 1: the best way for that to continue, and the best

2056
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,639
Speaker 1: way for that to continue is to score more runs.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 8: But they should What they should have done is they

2059
01:50:52,479 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 8: should have got a bat in the off season, Yes,

2060
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Speaker 8: another bat.

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Speaker 2: Yes. In addition, yes, they should have maybe signed Hayes

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Speaker 2: again or some like it. I don't know. But on

2063
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Speaker 2: to re times, Yeah, hang high Hines. You know what

2064
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 2: prospects or suspects. The guy's been up here before, and

2065
01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:14,600
Speaker 2: you know, when the pressures it's one thing to hit

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Speaker 2: down a triple A, but when the pressures own in

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Speaker 2: the big league, I just don't believe it. I like

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01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:22,599
Speaker 2: the team we got now, I wish we had another

2069
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Speaker 2: bat and that's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean, like you you have, you have

2071
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:30,639
Speaker 1: prospects who at some point, I mean, you're gonna you're

2072
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:33,799
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna discard the guy because he's had whatever

2073
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 1: it's been forty games a big league experience.

2074
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying that he had his chance last year,

2075
01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:42,600
Speaker 2: and you know, look at that.

2076
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:45,840
Speaker 1: Played in fifteen, played in fifteen, he played in fifteen games.

2077
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Speaker 2: Well, whenever you get your opportunity, you got to make

2078
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 2: the best. Yeah.

2079
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, so a guy rakes in spring training,

2080
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:55,679
Speaker 1: he does everything you ask him to do. He goes

2081
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:57,599
Speaker 1: to the minor leagues and he hits, and your team's

2082
01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:00,200
Speaker 1: not hitting, and it's not worth wondering should they give

2083
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 1: the guy at least one more opportunity? Like what would

2084
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:05,639
Speaker 1: it come at the expense of But when and where

2085
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 1: is what expense? Noelvin Marte.

2086
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 2: Okay? Right?

2087
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:17,320
Speaker 1: TJ Friedel Okay, So well there's two guys he could replace.

2088
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:22,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I agree with you on that.

2089
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 1: We're on the same page, Bob. They're seven and three,

2090
01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 1: they're winning. Isn't it more fun to talk about the

2091
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:31,840
Speaker 1: if they were three and seven? The tone is dramatically different,

2092
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:32,680
Speaker 1: and I'm glad it's not.

2093
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 12: But I am too.

2094
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 2: It makes your job easier when the winning.

2095
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:38,360
Speaker 1: You got that, right, Bob. It's nice to hear from you.

2096
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:39,600
Speaker 2: Thank you.

2097
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 1: It is more fun to talk about a team and

2098
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:47,840
Speaker 1: how it can continue to win or improve when it's

2099
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:50,960
Speaker 1: winning than it is to listen to folks complain about

2100
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 1: Phil Castellini when they're losing. They gotta score more runs,

2101
01:52:58,479 --> 01:53:01,880
Speaker 1: and hopefully they do tonight, Taren, are we done. We're

2102
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Speaker 1: gonna get a mean email from Mike because we let

2103
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Speaker 1: them go on hold and didn't get a chance to

2104
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:05,680
Speaker 1: talk to him.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we're done.

2106
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:06,840
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're back tomorrow at three oh five. Have a

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Speaker 1: great night. Thank you for listening, Thanks to those of

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Speaker 1: you who called, and we will talk to you tomorrow.

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