WEBVTT - Live on Sunday Night with Bill Cunningham 11/16/2025 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:28.080 Willie Love You by Choice Hotels, Econo Lodge and Roadway 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:30.880 In Hotels are serving up double points for every qualifying 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:32.400 stay book at choice. 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:33.560 Hotels dot com. 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:37.240 Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best, 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:41.440 the recipient of not one, but two prestigious Marconi Awards 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:46.120 for his broadcast excellence, the one and only Bill Cunningham. 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:51.240 All Right, Philly Cunningham, the great American. Thanks for listening tonight, 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.720 and I also want to thank some one million listeners 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.640 across the country tune and every Sunday night. And this 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.280 show is growing. It's been growing for about fifteen years. 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:03.480 The media, according to the American people, is not believed 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.959 by about seventy five percent of us. We do not 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:11.280 believe NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, do not believe PBS, NPR. 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.160 We don't think we'll get the objective, hard facts from 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.080 the New York Times or the Washington Post. So podcast 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:20.000 and talk radio fills in the void to give you 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:23.600 information otherwise not present or ignored because it doesn't fit 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.360 the left wing bias of the mainstream media. So thank 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:28.920 you for listening. I can't say that enough. Thank you 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.600 for making this life of mine a whole lot better 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:35.640 than otherwise would be. Privately, things are great, have Thanksgiving 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.080 planned and I have about twenty five people over to 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.400 the house, and as you know, it's my tradition to 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:42.880 have all the women come about two o'clock or three 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:46.639 o'clock in the afternoon. And I have a massage table 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:48.280 set up and a part of my house, and I 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:51.200 also have a petties and the mannies are available. I 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:55.000 know women work hard to prepare Thanksgiving dinner, hopefully by 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:59.280 six pm on Thanksgiving night, and it's a wonderful gathering 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.440 of the cunning clan. And you know, without women, I 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:06.640 was born of woman, I was raised by women, I 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:10.359 dated women, I married a woman, and I have a 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.840 beautiful granddaughter that I love her dearly. And when I die, 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.440 I'll be cared for by women. So without women, we 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:20.440 men will still be savages. So I want to thank 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.639 all the women. I know it's a bit premature, but 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:27.320 what about eleven days away we're going to have Thanksgiving. 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.440 But I tend to think that women do about ninety 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.880 percent of the work and men eat ninety percent of 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:35.280 the food. So we thank women greatly for making us 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.680 less than savage, and for making my life so good. 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:41.600 Whenever I reflect upon I watched this one series. I 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.160 think it was on CBS Morning News. Every now and 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:47.880 then Ted Copple does something right. On CBS Morning News, 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:51.000 he had a segment about how hard it is to 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.960 be a lower middle class or a poor American without 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:55.840 a place to live. He had a story this morning. 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.519 Three women in the Atlanta area. One had eight children. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.640 One might ask where are the fathers? And at some 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.919 point you have to realize how those things happen. But nonetheless, 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.959 and this woman gets up every day, works about fifty 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:12.640 hours a week and has eight children and has completely overwhelmed. 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.639 Another one had four kids, and another one I had 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.280 some disabilities of one type or another. So whenever I 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.919 think my cup is about three quarters full, I look 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:23.920 at others and say, you know what, But for the 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:27.440 grace of God, there goes I. This is regressing a 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.400 little bit. But you might know that when I was 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:34.000 twelve or thirteen years old, my alcoholic father said that's it. 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.000 Left never saw him again the rest of my life. 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.200 I left my mother and it with an eighth grade education, 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:42.240 not working with four children of tender years. And but 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.880 for the fact my auntie and that Arling House took 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.320 us in to her home, a mother and four kids, 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.440 and she was already living with another sister and her mother. 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.320 There was quite a crew there and we slept together 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.040 quite often. I don't know what would happen to the 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.760 Cunningham plan, so I'm sure and that Arling House is 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.360 in heaven above with my dear mom, and I thank 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.160 you for the sacrifices you made the matter lives possible. 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.400 All four kids are extremely functional. All four of us 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:10.560 have advanced college degrees. One has passed on the other 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.320 three are still with us. And I have thanksgiving for 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.360 these sacrifices my family has made for me. So as 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.760 you get ready for Thanksgiving, I think of the same 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.480 thing about especially the women in your home who need 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.120 special attention in that special day. Now, let's get on 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:27.920 to the topic du jour. As you may know, I've 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:32.440 been somewhat recalcitrant in getting into the Jeffrey Epstein matter. 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.600 The reason is obvious to me. It was again tonight 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:40.240 that Halle Jackson NBC Nightly News did another segment in 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.599 which there were five or six women appeared to be 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.480 now in their forties and fifties who had pictures in 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.880 them with every teenage girls. And I've tried to stay 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:52.440 away from it because it's a classic dodge and a 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.440 diversion from not covering the good things happening in the 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.359 Trump administration. And there's lots of good stuff happening with 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:02.320 Donald Trump administration, including the precursors of fentanyl that now 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.880 won't be coming from China. The southern borders largely is functional, 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.920 and we're working through all the government benefits that are 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:12.960 wrongfully given to non Americans. The world is a much 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:16.160 more peaceful place than it was because of Donald Trump, 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.080 and I have great confidence in his ability to lead 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.640 us on. And so when the media can't cover the 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.120 right things going on with Donald Trump, they jump into 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:27.560 the Jeffrey Epstein sewer and cover that story again and 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.360 again and again, and on Tuesday, all hell's going to 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.839 break loose because there's going to be dozens of not 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.960 one hundred, of victims of Jeffrey Epstein that'll be on 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.480 the steps of the Capitol with pictures of them when 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:42.239 they were teenage girls sexually abused and trafficked by Jeffrey 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:47.279 Epstein and Julane Maxwell. And I certainly believe it happened 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:51.560 in fact, she was convicted and he was convicted and 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.640 early in twenty eight and then of course he hung 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:58.920 himself before the second trial would commence. And so did 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.479 it happen, Absolutely, no question about it. But I have 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.599 many questions about why is it being covered? In twenty 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:10.240 twenty five, we had four long years of the Joe 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:15.080 Biden Kamala Harris administration. They had access to in possession 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:20.119 of all the emails that the media once distributed today 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.280 and did nothing with them for four years. You cannot 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.800 tell me that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and James 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:31.120 Coney Comy and Mary Garland if there was something negative 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.040 about Donald Trump, would they have made that public? 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:37.160 Do you think? Absolutely? Absolutely? 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.560 It was well known, it was out there, and they 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.880 had the same access to the FBI files to doj 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:48.520 files on the Epstein files as Donald Trump has now 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.440 and did nothing with them for four years. It's kind 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.840 of like the dog that doesn't bark? Why didn't If 0:06:54.880 --> 0:07:00.440 there's if there's inculplatory information about Donald Trump in those 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:04.240 files in possession of Mary Garland and James Comy and 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.960 Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, why'm were't they is closed, 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.960 one might say, because there isn't. I'll line up on 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.800 one side of the fence, those who say that Donald 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:17.600 Trump did not engage in sexual misconduct with teenage girls, 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:19.760 and the Jeffrey Epstein matter. I can line it up 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.440 from here to Tim Buck too, but it doesn't make 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.320 any difference to the media. One of the classic moments 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.680 tonight on NBC night inl the News with Halle Jackson. 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.200 I'll point out first of all that it's a criminal 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.640 defense attorney. I've represented many rapists who have raped women 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:38.240 and sexual assaults, maybe ten to fifteen trials over my career. 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:42.040 They're always sick and demented, but they need representation, damn it. 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.520 I provided it. So I get that women often don't 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.360 want to talk about these things because it is painful, 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.280 it's personal, and they hate it and it colors them 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.200 for the rest of their life. I understand that. So 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:59.120 Halle Jackson tonight, the main correspondent on Sundays NBC Nightly News, 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:03.000 had four or five present and they talked had pictures 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.200 of them when they were teenage girls, which I thought 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.720 was very poignant, and I can only imagine the difficulties 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.000 they've gone through in their life. And if you check 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.720 the NBC Nightly News website, which I have right here, 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.760 their names are President Epstein's survivors, et cetera. They're brave 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:22.560 women in their thirties, forties, and fifties, and many times. 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:26.480 These events started as early as nineteen ninety six with 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.480 a woman named Farmer, and she's still with us, thank god. 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:33.080 So she's approximately fifty years old, I would think, and 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:36.439 she claimed in nineteen ninety six that Jeffrey Epstein raped her, 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.480 and her story is quite believable. And she went to 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:44.520 the NYPD Sex Crimes Unit, and by the middle nineteen 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.840 nineties it was a well established unit. It was accepted 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.360 as a real thing. Maybe in the forties and fifties 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:54.079 and sixties it wasn't, but today it is. And after 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:58.080 a thorough investigation, NYPD decided not to follow criminal charges 0:08:58.200 --> 0:08:59.360 against Jeffrey Epstein. 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:01.520 In his mind, he got away with it. 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.000 I'm not saying it happen or didn't happen, but no 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:08.400 criminal charges were filed. And the woman went on with 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:10.559 those lot, went on with her life, and she does 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:14.240 interviews right now. And this continued, I think from that 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:18.120 nineteen ninety six all the way through twenty nineteen before 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.840 he was arrested. Before Jeffrey Epstein was arrested, in fact, 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:25.760 a little side note, there was a Democratic female congresswoman, 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:30.040 shall I say, texting with Jeffrey Epstein before he was 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:35.920 killed himself. Epstein was suggesting questions to the Democrat interviewing 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:39.200 someone about the Epstein matter during a congressional hearing, which 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.800 is kind of sick, and said would you agree? So 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:45.360 since since this thing erupted in twenty oh six, seven 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:51.600 twenty eight in Miami Dade, there was women and men 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:55.160 that came forward to say Jeffrey Epstein was conducting some 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:59.040 sort of sex trafficking operation as affront, and that he 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:04.680 would provide two certain individuals young women in a sick 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:09.520 fashion to satisfy their sexual desires and sexual predilections. One 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.320 of them, of course, was the most noted one that 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.800 we have today is Virginia Geffrey, and she killed herself 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:20.080 about six months ago in Australia. And so Virginia Giuffrey 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:24.680 was sexually abused as a child, ended up on the street, 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.800 was an attractive woman that somehow made herself to a 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:33.960 modeling agency and somehow worked away because of Maxwell to 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:39.400 become a Chaws, a massage therapist for Jeffrey Epstein, and 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.800 so she was there for about two and a half years. 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:47.160 And from that there was a thorough investigation twenty six, 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.199 twenty seven, twenty eight eight, and of course Epstein had 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.559 access to the finest lawyer's money can buy, and an 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:58.360 odd twist and turn, the Feds, after a lengthy investigation, 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.960 many emails, many reports, its, many files, decided to let 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:06.000 the state authorities proceed, which is quite unusual. And state 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:09.679 authorities proceeded. He pled guilty to some offenses and received 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.680 about eight months in the county jail, but he got 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:16.040 work release almost immediately. So in the morning he would 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:20.120 report back to his mansions in West Palm Beach. Then 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.520 at night he'd report back to the jail. Most of 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:26.880 the time, some days he didn't. So from that two 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:34.000 year investigation we have reams of paper reports, emails, documents, 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:39.599 text messaging, grand jury materials that the Donald Trump administration 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.360 urged the judge to release, by the way, and the 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.120 judge said no. This is going back about a year, 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:50.240 and so we have reams of information thoroughly investigating Jeffrey 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.200 Epstein in twenty six twenty seven and twenty oh eight, 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.960 and there were many lawsuits filed subsequent to that in 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.920 which class action lawyers, and you know, class action law 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.800 players can be very direct, and they wanted to sue 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:06.320 everybody with a pocket, so they sued Jeffrey Epstein. They 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.800 sued banks, they sued insurance companies, They sued everyone they 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:13.400 could find who was involved in this thing directly indirectly, 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.800 including Prince Andrew, who down the road settled the case 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.400 for about twelve million dollars to get his name out 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.880 of the mix, but that didn't work either. According to 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:28.040 the women interviewed tonight by Hallie Jackson NBC Nightly News, 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.320 one woman said there's as many as one thousand female 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:36.520 victims of Jeffrey Epstein a thousand. Some have said one hundred, 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.160 some have said five hundred, whatever number it is, one 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.960 is way too many. But obviously there were at least 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.800 one hundred, maybe as many as a thousand of the 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:49.120 sexual operation. Media reports there was also videotaping of incidents 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:54.120 in which Jeffrey Epstein could use that as extortion against 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.040 others to get them to do what he wants to 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.240 have done, and the FBI rated to Island at some 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:03.120 point took his of tons of information out of Lolita 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.000 Island with all kinds of records and hard drives, etc. 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:07.520 What's become of that? 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:11.360 Nobody knows at this point, as wesider. In twenty twenty five, 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.480 there have been dozens, if not more than one hundred 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:19.240 class action lawsuits filed against New York banks, new York 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:24.359 brokerage firms that Jeffrey Epstein did, business, insurance companies, individuals 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.800 all over the place who allegedly were involved in this, 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.520 and as a consequence, almost every case has been settled. 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.880 And the number of people involved in the class action lawsuits, 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.199 many of which are still penning by the way, involved lawyers, 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:45.360 administrative assistants, paralegals, and clerks, also court personnel of every description. 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.559 So the number of people that have all the documents, 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.839 all the information going back twenty years of federal and 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:57.920 state and county investigations. About twenty thousand emails were released 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.240 about four or five days ago, which, according to the 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.440 testimony of these women, is the tip of the iceberg. 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:08.319 There's more than a one hundred thousand, one hundred thousand emails, 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:13.120 text messages, documents, gigabytes, maybe one hundred thousand documents might 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.800 have three to four hundred thousand pages of information. 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:20.080 So today tonight I watched. 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:23.560 The NBC Night Lows about six thirty pm on WLWT 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:27.120 in Cincinnati, NBC affiliate, and I'm waiting for Halle Jackson 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:33.080 to ask the question, who sexually abused you? Give me 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:37.960 names of men that you were traffic two, the rich 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:42.960 and the famous, billionaires, politicians, bankers, the rich and the famous. 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:47.640 The names are out there. Founders of Microsoft, big time lawyers, 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:53.880 members of the Clinton administration, Bill Clinton himself. I'm waiting 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.040 for someone to ask the question. Halle Jackson asked the question. 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:59.880 Here you sit six women who are now in the 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:04.760 the thirties and forties, and who raped you? Give me 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:09.200 the name? The question was an asked. In fact, I 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.880 can't watch everything and see everything simultaneously. I go to Wikipedia, 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.240 which I trust about half the time, and as some 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.840 names that people like Bill richardson there and Bill Gates 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.760 there and Bill Clinton there, et cetera. But we'd talk 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.520 about we'd have to talk about hundreds or a couple 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:28.680 thousand men over a thirty year period who were had 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:32.480 these girls trafficked to them, committing serious crimes against teenage 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.840 girls and even adult women if they're trafficked or whatever, 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.200 that's also a serious fello. And the human trafficking happens 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.760 when you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty five, fifteen, sixteen. It's 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:48.920 much worse, is it. Why isn't it asked of the 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:56.640 women who committed these crimes against you? And obviously, if 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:01.280 the Adam Shifts and the Jamie Raskins of this world 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.320 know who they are, and they imply, yes, we know 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.920 who they are, they also know that as a member 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.280 of Congress, these guys can go directly to the will 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.840 of the House, within their official duties and say whatever 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:19.680 they want to say about who raped these women and 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.000 why they were raped, and nothing can come of that, 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:25.120 and the no defamation or whatever, because the Speech and 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:28.800 Debate Clause of the United States Constitution gives each member 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:33.280 of Congress absolute immunity from legal consequences for anything and 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.360 everything they say on the floor of their respective chambers. 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.080 So if they have information as to the men that 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.960 did this, and I want to know their names from 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.720 classified to completely defamatory, they can read it out loud, 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:49.120 speak of it without an illegal replication repercussions at all. 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:51.920 For them on the floor. Why has that not happened? 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.840 I'm waiting anyone give me an answer on that one. 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.920 Who are they, what did they do? When did it happen? 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.520 How many times did it occur? And the answer is 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:10.760 we get nothing. Zero immunity is available to these Trump 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:15.520 hating democrats from AOC to Jamie Raskin, just get give 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.840 me the name. They can go on the floor of 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.760 the House or Senate and speak until their hearts content. 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.400 And if the victims, so to speak, do not want 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:28.199 to do it for fear of repercussions from the billionaires. Okay, 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:30.840 but the members of Congress knows they could announce the 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:36.120 names have complete absolute immunity by the US Constitution. Why 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:40.520 hasn't that happened? Now, let's continue, take a short break, 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:44.080 I'll continue. I want to get your reaction now to 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:49.719 what is behind the Jeffrey Epstein matter. Why isn't it? 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.800 Shall we say known as to the rapist? I want 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.800 the rapist names to be known. I want the objects 0:17:56.800 --> 0:18:00.000 of the human traffickers to say either out loud directly 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:03.000 or the members of Congress would happened to them and 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:03.800 they can speak? 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.800 Why has that not happened? Is there something else behind this? 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:12.040 Eight six six six four seven seven three three seven 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.040 Bill Cunning and the great American with you and all 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:23.000 great Americans every Sunday night. Well, let's continue, and every 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:27.840 now and then I follow us. Congressman Roe OCNNA from California. 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:32.280 He gave it was an appearance today on NBC News 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.560 in which he said, this is not about Donald Trump. 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.440 He said, there, quote, there are a lot of other 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:41.520 people who were involved who have to be held accountable 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:49.960 quote unquote. And I'm sitting here thinking, okay. Here we 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:53.439 sit near Thanksgiving of twenty twenty five. This thing's been 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:57.800 under investigation full time for about twenty years and partially 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:01.920 for thirty years. Where are the name of the rapist 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:05.680 of the perverts, other than, of course Jeffrey Epstein and 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:09.640 Gallaine Maxwell. Where are the men who did this? There's 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:13.040 hundreds of men. Are we chasing our tail? Is there's 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:17.600 some reality we're missing? Let's continue. You have a call 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:21.040 from Jacksonville, Florida. Eight sixty six six four seven, seven 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:36.840 three three seven, Go Cunning in with you every seven. 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:30.920 So here we go. 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:36.000 Call us from Florida and Arizona many places. Eight six 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.800 six six four seven seven three three seven Do you 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.920 care about Epstein files? The media goes nuts, Tuesday is 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.160 going to be a big day, a couple other things, 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:47.400 and then LA, I want to get your opinions. NBC 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.760 News tonight has a story let me read you a 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:56.200 line from NBC News. Not exactly a fave of Donald Trump. 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.920 NBC News goes after him with hooks and claws, as 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:04.800 as ABC and CBS. The NBC News story says, among 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:11.679 the following about this matter, the President's name appeared frequently 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:16.040 in the emails, but Jeffrey Epstein did not in these 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:21.240 files accuse him of any wrongdoing or illegal activity. Can 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:26.280 you put that in ten point fifteen point italisized black letter? 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:30.400 Let me try this to you again. The President's name 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:35.320 appeared frequently in the emails, but Jeffrey Epstein did not 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:40.399 in these files accuse him of any wrongdoing or illegal activity. 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.480 Now is that the object of the media coverage? How 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:48.040 many times have you hear a ms now talk about 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:50.479 him being used? The term used by one of their 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:55.240 anchors a pedophile, for which she quickly apologized for say 0:20:55.280 --> 0:21:01.400 it again. According to NBC News, Donald Trump was not 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:06.600 accused by Jeffrey Epstein of any wrongdoing or legal activity. 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:10.040 I'm not talking about something amounting to a crime. I'm 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:14.480 talking about wrongdoing. So we have lineup on my side. 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:14.840 Of the table. 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:17.640 My side of the table says, if there's any more 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:21.320 crimes or criminals, they'd be known already. And if Gallaine 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:26.440 Maxwell had the goods on anyone, especially Donald Trump, who 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:29.280 she says was a complete gentleman in her presence, But 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:32.280 if she had the goods on anyone, she would have 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:35.119 sung like a canary to get out from under twenty 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:35.920 years in jail. 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:38.680 And she said nothing. She had to get out of 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:40.239 jail free card. She didn't use it. 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:47.639 So on one hand, yeah, you have Gallaine Maxwell says Donald Trump, 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:51.600 to use her words, was a complete gentleman in her presence. 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:54.720 To use the words of Jeffrey Epstein, let me try 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:59.320 this again, Jeffrey Epstein did not accuse Donald Trump of 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:03.240 any wrongdoing or illegal activity. Throw it also on my 0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:06.960 side of the table. Virginia Goufrey, she wrote a book 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:11.439 on the subject. She did not name names, but she 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:16.119 specifically said that Donald Trump was a gentleman every time 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:20.680 she saw him, and Geffrey that the main victim here, 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:22.879 said donald Trump did nothing wrong. 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:26.800 So not one victim has. 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:29.439 Come forward to say that I was trafficked to Donald 0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:32.720 Trump as a teenage girl. How many out of the 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:37.320 one thousand, According to one guest this afternoon on NBC 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:42.159 Nightly News, none of the victims identified Donald Trump. Do 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:45.680 you believe the victims that none of the victims accused 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:50.760 Donald Trump? And do you believe them? I believe victims 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:51.960 the great majority of the time. 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:52.520 Every time. 0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:57.080 No, But I say, very few victims of rape or 0:22:57.160 --> 0:22:59.960 sexual assault when to publicized the fact of what happened. 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:03.600 But the victims are unanimous and saying we got nothing 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:08.439 on Donald Trump. Virginia Jeffrey the main victim who was 0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:12.680 trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein. She says to many, many, many 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:15.280 over two and a half year period, said Donald Trump 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:20.000 didn't do anything. We have Gallaine Maxwell, who said if 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:22.680 I had information about Donald Trump, I wouldn't be sitting 0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:25.159 in jail for twenty years. She's already done five years. 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:28.399 We have in addition to this, we have all the 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:31.399 lawyers and all the pair of legals and all the 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:35.119 administrative assistants in all the class action lawsuits. There's been 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:42.080 dozens filed through discovery of cross examining victims and witnesses 0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:46.280 and doctors and cops and emergency rooms. Not one lawyer, 0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:49.359 many of whom hate Donald Trump, have come forward to say, well, 0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:50.199 I can put the hat on. 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:51.399 Donald Trump said he did it. 0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:54.879 Not one throw on top of that, all the administrative assistants, 0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:58.320 all the pair of legals none, and all the grand 0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:02.600 jury testimony none on my side of the table. I 0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:07.600 think NBC News said it tonight. The president's name, although 0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:13.360 frequently mentioned in emails by Jeffrey Epstein, did not accuse 0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:17.800 him of any wrongdoing or illegal activity. Like a tenfold 0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:20.680 beacon of the night. There it is, So what can 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:24.160 come out on Tuesday? I have no idea. Another thing, 0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:26.960 what isn't Donald Trump, which he said at one point, 0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:30.800 continue to say release everything. He tried to get the 0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:33.600 federal judge in Miami Dade County to release it, and 0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:36.680 he said no, what is it? Well, it is grand 0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:41.600 jury testimony generally not released. You have all the county 0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:45.399 and police prosecutors in New York City, West Palm, Miami 0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:48.560 Dade that their records generally are not released. But what 0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:51.440 is released or all the emails from the estate of 0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:55.879 Jeffrey Epstein and gleaned through the dozens of lawsuits of 0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:58.439 all the information in the Department of Justice, and the 0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:02.320 Democrats in the in the Department of Justice, certainly for 0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:06.600 four years, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and James Comy 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:10.520 not exactly a fan of Donald Trump's, and Mary Garland 0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:14.359 had all this information and released none of it. So 0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:19.160 is there something in there against Donald Trump accusing him 0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:22.520 by a victim or a knowing person of a wrongdoing 0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:26.040 actor or legal act. The answer is no, it doesn't exist. 0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:31.119 So once you remove the emotion and getting Donald Trump, 0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:36.280 it appears at this point there's no there there. It 0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:40.280 has done to smear Donald Trump without facts. Do you 0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:45.800 believe the victims? I generally do. Do you believe Virginia Jeffrey, Yes, 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:47.919 you wrote a book about it. Donald Trump didn't do it. 0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:51.520 Do you believe Ghlaine Maxwell, who said he was a 0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:54.960 complete gentleman, or Jeffrey Epstein, who accused Donald Trump of 0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:58.600 no wrongdoing? All the lawyers, the paralegals, the judges, all 0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.560 of whom, all the lawsuits for twenty thirty years, all 0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:06.119 the information, one hundred thousand documents, several gigabytes, five hundred 0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:10.320 thousand pages, Donald Trump's names in it, but not accusing 0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:12.840 him or any wrongdoing. So what in the hell are 0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:16.800 we talking about? It is unbelievable unless you have a 0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:21.400 bad case of Trump Derangement syndrome TDS. Have you got 0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:26.400 that no piece of evidence or truth? Well, dare dislodge 0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:30.840 the idea? You must get Donald Trump by any means necessary. 0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:35.399 So I want to get your feeling on this. What 0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:39.439 is behind this? Why is this happening now? Tuesday? The 0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:40.840 rest of this week, the media is going to be 0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:44.320 going nuts, And every time anyone brings it up. I 0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:49.600 want to hear victims say who raped them? Who committed 0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:53.080 sexual assaults on them? If you were trafficked to someone, 0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:56.480 give me the name of the man who sexually abused you. 0:26:56.960 --> 0:27:02.000 Who is that person, and then it's able to be investigated. 0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:05.000 The only name has come up so far as Prince Andrew. 0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:08.600 He's been defrocked and the Crown paid twelve million dollars 0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:14.439 to Virginia Duffrey, And certainly I believe that's consciousness of guilt. 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:15.360 That's one. 0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:20.600 Are there any anyone else? Raise your hand? The billionaires, 0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:25.880 the bankers, the stockbrokers, the lawyers, the politicians, who are 0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:30.680 they all this time? I'm waiting to hear names who 0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:31.080 did this? 0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:32.320 Are you with me? 0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.960 Or are you against me? Let's go to the calls 0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:40.240 cline becomes available, which it never does eight six six 0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:43.600 six four seven seven three three seven. Sadly, I've been 0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:45.879 reluctant to deal with this because I know what the 0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:50.520 Democrats are doing, a classic smear tactic to blame Donald 0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:53.800 Trump for the behavior of Jeffrey Epstein or Julane Maxwell, 0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:57.479 when in fact, uh he kicked him out of his 0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:01.240 social circle sometime in like twenty oh seven, twenty oh eight. 0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:04.240 He was he pled guilty in twenty oh eight, and 0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.120 when he got out and out of Miami and came 0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.720 back to New York, I wouldn't note that George Stephanopolis 0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:14.600 also called George Slappinopolis and Katie Corek was wind dined 0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:18.720 in pocket Line by Jeffrey Epstein after they knew or 0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.879 should have known, he was a pervert. So Katie Corek, 0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:26.199 according to media accounts, and George Slappinopolis was wind and 0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:28.679 dined in the Epstein mansion after he got out of 0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:31.760 Miami Dade and went back to New York let's go 0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:34.960 to the calls if Marian Wisconsin and many others, and 0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.320 now what's behind it? Do you believe any of it? 0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:39.600 For the next hour, so I want to deal with it. 0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.800 Eight six six six four seven seven three three seven 0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:46.720 Mary in Wisconsin, and then Lucy, Mary in Wisconsin, Welcome 0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:49.160 to the Bill Cunningham Show, and give me a full report. 0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:58.800 Yes, Billy, I am reading Whitney Webb's One Nation Under 0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:02.560 Blackmail and would that ever open your eyes to schools 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.440 all the way back to the nineteen twenties. 0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:11.080 Nineteen twenties been one hundred years. 0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:14.520 Crupt, crupt, and. 0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:20.280 It could really take downs many. 0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.920 Thank you for your call, Lucy, and Arizona the home 0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.560 of the Wildcats and the sun Devils. Lucy, Welcome to 0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:28.400 Bill Cunningham Show. Lucy, what do you think? 0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:33.800 I think that these were not choir girls. These were 0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:37.680 girls that were not held against their will to do 0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.840 anything they hadn't been doing with the captain of the 0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:45.160 football team in the backseat of a car on Friday night. 0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:52.000 If anybody is at fault, it was these girls' parents. 0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:55.240 How could you let your child come home with a 0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:59.320 lot of money not know where they've been for hours 0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:04.520 or get for how at weeks, however long. This is 0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:09.120 almost like another Cabanaugh where all these people got together. 0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:14.200 I don't doubt that one young girl told another girl, Oh, 0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:18.120 we're gonna get money to go here and be a massage. 0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:22.600 I don't doubt that Jeffrey Epstein was a horrible, horrible person. 0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:27.640 But I don't think all the fault belongs with the men. 0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:32.720 I think that the reason these victims are not forthcoming 0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:36.560 is because they were paid very well to do what 0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:37.120 they did. 0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:43.880 Lucia two responses. One, Virginia Giuffrey was sexually abused. She 0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.440 says when she was a little girl, she spent time 0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:50.280 on the street, she was homeless, and she was easily 0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.720 shall we say, course by Julanne Maxwell and in becoming 0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.160 a massage therapist. I don't know about the other ones, 0:30:57.000 --> 0:31:00.280 what their lives were like, but but we can't can't 0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:03.320 say to a fourteen, fifteen, sixteen seven year old girl 0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:07.520 that because you're knowledgeable about sex, that you're gonna have 0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:11.400 sex with billionaire men's men and princes, et cetera. And 0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.680 are you, as a woman, are you surprised at this 0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:18.640 point that we don't have the names of these billionaire men, 0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.560 bankers and lawyers who actually had sex. 0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:23.320 With the girls. Why aren't why aren't the names of 0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:24.280 the men out there? 0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:27.280 If in fact there's hundreds of these guys, where are 0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:30.600 they exactly exactly? 0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:35.720 This is the if the young girl, this is the fantasy, 0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:40.000 and they've built a fantasy around some of this stuff, 0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:42.640 and just somebody said, well, this is so and so, 0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:44.600 and this is so and so, and this is so 0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:49.520 and so, and they're just very influenced by Oh, this 0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:54.040 is whoever it is. I just I believe this is 0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:59.360 just blown so totally out of proportion. And let's get 0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:05.400 Donald Trump. Well, I don't doubt that Jeffrey Epstein was 0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:09.000 a horrible person. I don't doubt that there was some 0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:13.160 very hokey stuff going on, But I don't believe Donald 0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:16.680 Trump was involved in it. I don't believe a lot 0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:22.320 of these people that have been accused. I mean, maybe 0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:25.600 they got carried away, Maybe these girls did drugs, and 0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:30.280 I've read that they did. They had alcohol and drugs 0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:34.560 and all of this. But if this were so terribly bad, 0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:39.720 why are we not seeing more of exactly an account 0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:40.920 of who did what? 0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.520 Lucy, thank you for your call. I would say this, 0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:47.840 Virginia Giuffrey is a very sympathetic victim because I read 0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:52.320 some of her background. It was said, and if there 0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:55.640 were crimes being committed and the police were notified, which 0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.600 they were notified, the sex crimes unit in the mid 0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:00.920 nineteen nineties, New York City didn't do a damn thing 0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:04.800 about the alleged rape of this farmer woman who appears 0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:08.560 to be a believable witness, at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein. 0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.280 I'm waiting to hear the names of the men who 0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:13.560 did this. Their names got to come out, and I 0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:16.920 want to know who they are, and I'm sympathetic. We 0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:20.840 have laws that say that if you're under eighteen, you're 0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.080 gonna have sex with a man more than four years 0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:26.000 your age, in other word, twenty over twenty two years old, 0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:28.400 and the men who did this should be held to 0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:32.560 account criminally and civilly. If some thirty five year old 0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.400 New York banker had sex with a seventeen year old girl, 0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.360 knowing I have reason believe she was seventeen, we have 0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:41.040 laws to protect these girls, even if they're worldly, and 0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:43.200 even if they have drug problems, even if they're drunk. 0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:46.800 You can't do that, so I want to know who's responsible. 0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.400 And Hallie Jackson tonight on AMBC Nightland News had a 0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:54.720 perfect reason to say, all right, now, you're mature women. 0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.640 Now who did you have sex with against your will? 0:33:57.800 --> 0:33:58.320 Who did you? 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:02.440 Were you drunk? Were you're drugs? Were you trafficked? Were 0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.600 you paid? Did what happened? I want to know the 0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:10.040 men who did this and then we can fully evaluate. Okay, 0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:13.080 this guy some of the names mentioned, or Bill Clinton, 0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:17.239 for example, or Bill Gates, I believe one more than 0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:21.440 the other. But nonetheless, why aren't there women identifying the 0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.640 men who rape them and they were sexually trafficked to 0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:27.919 Why is that the I want to know, because their 0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:31.239 faces are out there, their names are out there, the victims. 0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:34.319 Who are the men who committed the crimes? Who are they? 0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:38.160 NBC News says it is not Donald Trump, So what 0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:42.200 the hell are we talking about? Let's continue. Bill Cunningham 0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:46.440 calls continue. We got Matt in Saint Louis and Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida, 0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:49.520 all places in between. Bill cunning into Great American Live 0:34:49.600 --> 0:35:00.399 with You every Sunday, and of course on Friday, media 0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:04.000 attacks Caroline Levitt. She told reporters in the White House 0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:08.479 on Friday, the quote, these emails prove absolutely nothing other 0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:12.120 than the fact that President Trump did nothing wrong quote unquote. 0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:17.000 Then and then Rocanna on the news shows today said, 0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:19.480 among other things, this should be a political win for 0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:23.920 Donald Trump because the emails do not indicate he did 0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:28.840 anything wrong. That's according to NBC News in Rocanna. So 0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:32.640 he gets exasperated and angry about it because he thinks 0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:35.120 it's a hoax in the sense, not that the girls 0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:36.879 are all of them every time are lying. 0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:37.960 That's not what he believes. 0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:40.400 He thinks the media is using this, which is a 0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:43.480 big nothing burger politically in twenty twenty five, because he 0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.680 doesn't want to keep talking about Ukraine, or don't we 0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:47.440 talk about gods that, don't want to talk about the 0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.040 southern border, don't want to talk about what's happening in Charlotte, 0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:53.239 North Carolina with the arrest of eighty one vicious criminals, 0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.920 don't want to talk about prices, which, by the way, 0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:59.400 in the last month went up three percent three percent, 0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:03.160 which is pretty good with full employment of four point 0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:06.920 two percent, and according to Walmart, the turkey package for 0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:09.640 Thanksgiving is going to be about twenty percent less than 0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:12.160 it was last year, So you can't talk about that. 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:15.560 What you want to talk about is sex, sex and 0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:19.200 more sex. And they keep bringing this up NBC News 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:23.000 once again. Let me read it again that the president's 0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:27.640 name appeared frequently in the emails, the twenty thousand pages 0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:31.200 of emails and documents from the Epstein estate, but Epstein 0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:35.760 himself did not accuse Trump of any wrongdoing or legal 0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:39.480 activity in twenty thousand pages of emails in his own 0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:42.880 estate going back twenty five years. So we have the 0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:45.839 victims have not identified Donald Trump as a perpetrator. 0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:47.240 We have his lawyers. 0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:50.920 Donald Trump's lawyers said no, The lawyers for Jeffrey Epstein 0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:54.680 said no. All the attorneys representing all these dozens of 0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:58.680 class action lawsuits against everyone, all of them have disclosed 0:36:58.680 --> 0:36:59.400 nothing about it. 0:36:59.480 --> 0:36:59.959 No nothing. 0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:05.360 So I'm waiting to have a burger there. This is 0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:09.920 a nothing burger. Do I have sympathy for those victimized 0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:13.600 by human trafficking? Absolutely? Do I generally believe women when 0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:18.120 that yes, I do. However, Donald Trump is what makes 0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:20.839 it a hook for national media coverage. And the name 0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:24.239 Donald Trump is in the emails, but that is not 0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:29.040 in culplatory. That exects culplatory, which means there's no evidence 0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:31.239 he did anything wrong. And my source for that are 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:35.200 the victims themselves who don't identify Donald Trump as a perpetrator. 0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:38.560 And Jeffrey Epstein and Jelaine Maxwell, all of them have 0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:42.400 said Donald Trump did not commit any offensive behavior towards 0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:42.880 the girls. 0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:46.600 Can we stop the madness? Let's continue with your calls. 0:37:46.640 --> 0:38:16.560 Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday, Willie Brock. 0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:16.840 You by Choice Hotels a Conno Roger Roadway in hotels 0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:19.919 are serving up double points for every qualifying stay book 0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:20.680 at choice. 0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:21.759 Hotels dot com. 0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:25.400 Sal here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best, 0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:29.640 the recipient of not won but two prestigious Marconi Awards 0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:31.480 for his broadcast exodence. 0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:34.319 The one and only Bill cunninghad. 0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.400 Let's continue in your calls all over the country about 0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:39.200 the Epstein matter. Then at the bottom of the hour, 0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:44.440 we'll deal with other matters. But twenty fifteen, after he 0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:48.319 came down the escalator, there was some reference that this 0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:51.880 is going back what ten years he'd come down the escalator. 0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:55.640 He did a brief interview with Bloomberg in twenty fifteen 0:38:56.280 --> 0:39:01.479 and which Donald Trump in twenty fifteen represented jeff You said, 0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:04.879 Jeffrey Epstein, and he hooked with Jeffrey Epstein the name 0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:08.799 Bill Clinton because it was perceived in twenty fifteen he 0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:11.240 was going to run against Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen. 0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:15.600 So who brought up Jeffrey Epstein's name ten years ago? 0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.600 It was Donald Trump when he said in this interview, 0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:21.560 and this is something that the Clinton should worry about. 0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:25.800 This is ten years ago with Bloomberg Founded on the web. 0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:27.399 Danny Gleason hit it. 0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:29.920 You raised the question of Jeffrey Epstein in your remarks 0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:30.880 event and Q and A. 0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:32.960 I think he's got a problem, don't think the problem. 0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:33.960 I don't know. 0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:37.040 But that island was really a cesspool. There's no question 0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.759 about it. Just ask Prince Andrew. Well, he'll tell you 0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:44.160 about it. The island was an absolute cesspool. So and 0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:46.800 he's been there for many times. Well, I can't say, Frinch, 0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:48.960 but I know friendly you know them? Are you play 0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:51.440 at my clubs a lot? I have clubs, and everybody. 0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:54.000 Likes to a political problem for her if she runs 0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:54.520 for president. 0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:56.960 It could be a political problem. Look, he could be 0:39:57.000 --> 0:40:00.000 a political problem. Right now, he's teflon and right now 0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:02.880 maybe not, but he could end up being a political. 0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:07.040 Ten years ago, I followed the news as assiduously as 0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:10.160 anyone else that the name Jeffrey Epstein was not on 0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:14.400 my radar. Lolita Island Cesspool was not on my radar, 0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:19.440 and Donald Trump being Donald Trump mentioned the first time 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:24.000 in the public domain Jeffrey Epstein ten years ago that 0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:29.360 Bill Clinton's involvement with Jeffrey Epstein at that island, Lalita 0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:34.080 Island Cesspool could be a problem. And so why would 0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:40.560 Donald Trump, ten years ago, if he had personal liabilities, 0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:44.040 bring up for the first time in the national public 0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:48.319 domain the idea of Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton if 0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:52.959 he had some personal culpability. Once again, the President's name 0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:56.680 appeared frequently in the emails, according to NBC News Tonight, 0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:00.600 but Epstein did not in these files accused him have 0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:04.719 any wrongdoing or illegal activity. BINGO, Let's go back to 0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:07.600 your call. Thousands on hold, millions are listening. Let's go 0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.840 to Matt in Saint Louis, the home of the Cardinals 0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:13.080 who beat the Reds on a regular basis. Matt and 0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:15.759 Saint Louis, Welcome to the Bill Show. Matt, how are 0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:19.120 you good? Bill, How are you, sir, doing well? Go ahead, 0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:21.880 I'd just like to throw a couple of things out you. 0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:23.840 You're a very smart man. And I do know what 0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:26.799 TDS is. My sister had that very bad. You can't 0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:31.879 say anything positive about the administration without her warping the views. 0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:35.759 It's crazy, but you know, I do remember sitting there 0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:39.279 watching the TV. Pam Bondy had said that something along 0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:41.400 the lines of the client list was on her desk 0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:45.560 for a review. I remember the binders. There were people 0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:47.879 going up the White House driveway getting binders. 0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:51.000 I don't know. There wasn't much information in there, but 0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:53.960 she alluded to things coming out. Now it seems like 0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:56.919 nothing is going to come out. I don't understand why 0:41:56.960 --> 0:42:00.000 Maxwell is in a moved to a CHRISTI prison in Tech. 0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:03.279 I think we all agree she's the epitome of evil, right, 0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:05.759 I don't get why she gets that. And frankly, I 0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:09.799 don't get the latest attacks on MPG and Massey, And 0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:12.400 it seems the only reason Trump seems to be attacking 0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:15.680 them is because they're pushing for the release of the files. 0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:18.120 And I think the reason that we're all saying all 0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:21.759 these questions of what if, what if? The only reason 0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:24.560 we're talking about is because Trump has a release the 0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:26.520 Epstein files. If he just released him, it would have 0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:28.360 been a win. It would have been a win right away. 0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:30.879 I just wonder what is holding him back. 0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:35.959 Ken Answell Roe Conna has said it, and I see 0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:38.440 the turning of the screw a little bit here. It 0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.840 appears the mainstream media is about to understand that Trump 0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:44.600 was not one of the perpetrators of the teenage girls. 0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:48.480 They're slowly turning the other direction, but talk about their 0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:51.480 own making. Pam Bondi, Attorney General recently she was just 0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:54.560 sworn in, said the Epstein list is on her desk. 0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:56.640 She's going to release him. And they're all kind of 0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:59.959 binders walking out down the driveway to the White House 0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:04.600 from certain podcasters that she gave binders to that didn't 0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:08.239 amount to hill of beans. And so sometimes they're their 0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:11.640 own worst enemy. Donald Trump in twenty fifteen is talking 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:13.320 about Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton. 0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:13.799 Why. 0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:16.440 I have no idea, because he must have known something 0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:18.719 at that point. But I contend that the end of 0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:22.000 the day, what's important here, Matt, is that Donald Trump 0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:25.960 sexually abused, directly and directly involved at all in illegal 0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:29.799 illicit activities of Jeffrey Epstein between nineteen ninety five and 0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:33.520 twenty nineteen, when Epstein killed himself. The answers appears to 0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:36.280 be no. Could there be a smoking gun out there somewhere. 0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:40.080 I guess it's possible, But the victims of this have 0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:44.800 not identified Donald Trump. Jeffrey Epstein said no. Virginia Duffrey 0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:50.120 says no. Alan Dershowitz, who was the attorney for Epstein, 0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:54.759 says no. All the lawyers on these got hundreds of 0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:57.920 millions of dollars in class action lawsuits. They all none 0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:02.319 of them identified Donald Trump? And so why if I'm 0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:06.239 Donald Trump, I don't pay much attention to advice from 0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:10.919 the Clinton eases, but get it all out assuming I'm 0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.000 not sure the files are going to come out, because 0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.360 if the House votes to do it, okay, then the 0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:18.040 Senate's got to vote to do it over sixty okay. 0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:20.719 Then the president's got to sign a law, and then 0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:22.160 it can be overridden in the Senate. 0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:22.799 I don't know. 0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:26.520 If I'm the president, I'm as pure as I appear 0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:30.480 to be based upon all this other information, why not 0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:32.520 say it's going to hurt a few people. There's some 0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:36.160 names in there. They can't defend themselves anywhere. Like Bill Richardson, 0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:39.839 you an ambassador under Clinton is dead. Supposedly he's one 0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:42.480 of the guys. Bill Gates is still with us. Rumors 0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:45.200 are Melinda left him Bill Gates because of this. 0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:47.520 I don't know, but whatever it is, it is. 0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:51.560 Prince Andrews said, the photo, the famous photos is AI. 0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:52.440 It's a bunch of crap. 0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:54.960 I don't know. How about getting all the names? 0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:57.279 Do you find an odd, Matt that none of the 0:44:57.400 --> 0:45:00.680 victims have identified Donald Trump as a perpetrator? 0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:02.640 Yeah, he continues to act as if you're trying to 0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:03.200 hide something. 0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:06.480 Yes, yes I do, and I and I and I 0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:10.600 see what the news is doing. You know a separate 0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.160 example that it goes along with Epstein and everything. I 0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:16.000 see it every day on CNN. No they ever talk 0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:19.200 about the price of eggs and the price of gas 0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:22.080 before would bide And now if you ever bring up 0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:24.040 the fact that if I go to the grocery store, 0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:26.280 I can get two dozen eggs for four to fifty 0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:28.839 not story at the gas pump and it's two fifty 0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:30.840 five here And see Lewis I paid. 0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:34.400 Two I paid two thirty nine today in Cincinnati. So 0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:37.920 the overall inflation rate is three percent. Now, like this 0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:42.000 morning ABC News with George Slappnopolis Jonathan Carr put up 0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:45.400 like six items that were more expensive, and I've always 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:47.560 working for Donald Trump, I would have been more more 0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:50.960 effective than Kevin Haslin. But nonetheless, there's six items. 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:51.480 I can tell you. 0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:54.959 Overall is three percent, which is damn which is pretty 0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:58.799 damn good. But why doesn't Donald Trump say I. 0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:01.239 Didn't do it. I have proof I didn't do it. 0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:02.520 I know I didn't do it. 0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:05.280 I'm gonna do everything in my power to release everything 0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.680 that I got and let the chips fwhere they may 0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:13.800 with the bank. Do you think there's hundreds of billionaires, financiers, lawyers, 0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:18.000 and politicians who sexually abused girls under Jeffrey Epstein's watch. 0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:23.840 That's what the girls are saying, right Well, who are they? What? 0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:25.680 Who? What? 0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:27.840 What? We'd like to know? And you know, if Trump 0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:31.440 isn't on the list, and likely not given everything we've seen, 0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:34.239 but again, he's leaving the suspicion in the air for 0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:36.560 all of us to have the conjecture that we don't know. 0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:41.920 But having said that, you know, I don't think I 0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:43.200 would say I don't think he did, but a lot 0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:46.279 of the people who probably did, probably as finance, not 0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:50.080 just his campaign, but both sides, every politicians campaign. So 0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:52.759 you know, it's probably hot stove. He doesn't want to touch, 0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:54.960 and I get it, no politician would want to touch it. 0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:57.960 But then again, we all voted for Trump because he 0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:00.200 wasn't the average politician, That's right. I hope at the 0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:01.920 end of the day, if it does get through the 0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:04.600 House somehow, and it does somehow get the sixty votes, 0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:07.440 I can't imagine Trump wouldn't sign it. I think the 0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:10.520 backlash would be crazy, and I still would too. What 0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:13.040 are your thoughts on Maxville in Texas well? 0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:17.400 I think she's being given better treatment because uh, I 0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:20.000 don't know. I think number one, if Trump pardons her, 0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:23.239 that's a serious, serious blunder. I think she's a very 0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:26.680 bad person who did very bad things, and she goes 0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:31.279 to do I've been in federal prisons representing clients. There's 0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:34.879 no such thing as a posh country club prison, even 0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:37.080 the one in Nashville, North Carolina, which I've been to 0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:39.319 to visit some I had a friend of mine on 0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:40.840 tax evasion was convicted. 0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:45.279 It's not good, but it's not like locked down like Joliet. Uh. 0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:47.360 That looks bad. That looks bad for Donald Trump. 0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:50.279 UH to give her some favorite treatment when she's a 0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:53.799 human trafficker. But but if she's a human trafficker, I 0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:57.040 like to know where where are the traffic traffic ees? 0:47:57.400 --> 0:47:59.680 Who are the where are the men? And she is 0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:05.799 said in their statements to the AG's office that all 0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:08.759 the names available are out there, there's no other names. 0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:10.480 And what names are out there? I'm not aware of 0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:13.880 any men's names, are you? I look at Wikipedia. I 0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:16.080 see seven or eight names. I don't know if they're 0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:18.720 guilty or not. How about the victims of the crime 0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:20.919 identifying the perpetrator? 0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:22.279 Does that make sense to you? 0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:26.920 Instead of a news article, a magazine, a book, Hallie 0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:31.920 Jackson NBC, How about the victims identifying the perpetrators? 0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:33.360 Does that make sense to anybody? 0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:35.040 No? 0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:38.920 But I will say if Trump somehow, if the epsteam 0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:44.360 files aren't released, and on top of that, somehow Maxwell's pardoned, 0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:47.440 which I think if if somehow Trump would pardon Macnew, 0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:49.920 he would have to wait until the end of his 0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:53.040 presidency because if he didn't, I do think MAGA would 0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:55.160 turn I mean one of the worst things I thought 0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:57.360 Biden did, The one that sealed the absolute deal for 0:48:57.480 --> 0:49:00.080 me is when he pardoned the entire family. Why it 0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:04.279 was the whole deal. I know he's corrupt. Six when 0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:06.600 he when I found out twenty minutes after he got 0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:10.360 on that helicopter and he pardoned everybody, I was so furious. 0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:10.959 I was done. 0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:15.200 Now, if Trump pardons Maxwell in a similar fashion, I'd 0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:17.040 imagine he'd wait till the end. I don't think he can. 0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:18.839 But if somehow he does that and the ftem bills 0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:21.719 aren't released, it's going to cause the most razy suspicion. 0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:23.680 What we're talking about now is going to be ten 0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:26.960 times worst, you know, with the suspicion. So let's just 0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:28.040 I'm just hoping. 0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:29.960 I'm hoping. I'll see what happens. 0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:32.520 But there's so much good stuff happening in the country 0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:35.840 right now that's not being covered because of the media 0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:40.080 is using this Jeffery Epstein to attack indirectly Donald Trump. 0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:43.640 When these bombshells came out, these twenty thousand emails a 0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:46.920 few days ago, it was a lead story ABC, NBCCBS, 0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:51.040 pbsc MS. Now Ever, on the hour, every hour it 0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:55.360 came out more bombshells. The term was bombshell. It's a bombshell, 0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:58.799 and then I read the stories quote. The President's name 0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:02.200 appeared frequently in the twenty thousand emails, but Epstein did 0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:04.920 not in these files accuse him of any wrongdoing or 0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:09.520 legal activity in that what's important, but just to mention 0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:13.800 someone as a bombshell implicitly communicates the idea that Trump 0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:18.239 is involved. When the when the victims say no, and 0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:21.520 Epstein's lawyers say no, and Epstein said no, and Jelaane 0:50:21.520 --> 0:50:24.440 Maxwell says no, and all the lawyers of the class 0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:28.399 action lawsuits say no, and the Democratic politicians who do 0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:31.440 not go to the well of the floor and the 0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:35.120 House of the Senate, they have complete civil immunity of 0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:37.960 saying anything they want to say, and not one is 0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:40.360 gone there, and give me the names of the perpetrators. 0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:41.160 Why is that? 0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:44.839 Maxwell says in her statement, there's no other perpetrator. 0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:48.319 This is all made up. I'm thinking, I don't believe that. Either. 0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:51.560 I don't know if there's hundreds of billionaires and lawyers 0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:53.840 who have done this or there's. 0:50:53.640 --> 0:50:56.560 Only two or three. I don't know. I tend to 0:50:56.600 --> 0:50:57.600 think there's hundreds. 0:50:57.800 --> 0:51:02.280 But why can't the victims identify the perpetrators. 0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:05.120 Now there's a novel suggestion. I'm a victim. 0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:07.440 This is what this guy did to me, this is 0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:09.239 how he did it to me, this is where he 0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:11.000 did it to me. This is why he did it 0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:16.160 to me. I like to know that, right, But it's 0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:20.000 not happening. Twenty minutes after the air bill cunning in 0:51:20.080 --> 0:51:28.680 with you every summer. Now, let's continue with your calls. 0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:33.400 I feel frustrated, I feel angry. I feel is that 0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:37.280 I if justice is not being done to the victims 0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:40.520 and to Donald Trump and of these other guys whose 0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:41.680 names I look at Wikipedia. 0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:42.920 I'm not going to mention their names. 0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:45.719 Wikipedia is right about half the time putting names out 0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:48.800 there of allegations that are unproven. 0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:51.040 Why is it happening. 0:51:51.960 --> 0:51:55.080 It's happening to derail the policies of Donald Trump, to 0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:58.719 smear him indirectly. That's why it's being done. It's not 0:51:58.800 --> 0:52:02.960 being done to benefit the the victims at all. This 0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:10.480 is the most thoroughly investigated crime since the Kennedy assassination, 0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:17.640 by multiple agencies, multiple years, multiple decades, literally hundreds or 0:52:17.719 --> 0:52:22.840 thousands of investigators involved every aspect of his life class 0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:26.359 you know, class action lawyers do a fantastic job in 0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:29.080 seeking money for the redress of those who have been injured. 0:52:29.719 --> 0:52:32.560 And I look online at the number of lawsuits filed 0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:35.799 against almost everybody in New York City, banks and brokerage 0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:39.960 firms and credit unions. Also the estate of Jeffrey Epstein 0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:42.759 at hundreds of millions of dollars in it. Claims are 0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:45.680 being made against that. There's new lawsuits being filed monthly 0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:51.880 weekly involving the victims of Jeffrey Epstein's human trafficking and 0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:56.480 sexual activities. Perverts, drugs are being used, teenage girls being 0:52:56.560 --> 0:53:01.200 juiced up, et cetera. I read these allegations. I mean, Okay, 0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:05.640 who did it? We know Jeffrey Epstein did it. We 0:53:05.680 --> 0:53:10.360 know Ghlaine Maxwell did it. And she supposedly also jumped 0:53:10.400 --> 0:53:13.680 in had Lesbie in love with some of these teenage girls. 0:53:13.680 --> 0:53:17.879 In addition to other things. She was a recruiter and 0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:21.359 she I want to get your reaction to this one. 0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:24.560 Over the next thirty to forty minutes she has in 0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:27.759 her head. I guess the names of all these men, 0:53:28.920 --> 0:53:33.000 these guys right where are they are? Reading stories from 0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:38.200 Gallainne Maxwell. One of her depositions which she gave as 0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:42.520 part of one of the lawsuits, indicate that she can 0:53:42.560 --> 0:53:47.800 add no one else, no other men, no other perpetrators. 0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:50.239 All the names are out there and that's the end 0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:51.719 of it. Are you kidding me? 0:53:52.560 --> 0:53:57.239 Can that be true that Jeffrey Epstein almost by himself, 0:53:57.920 --> 0:54:04.200 sexually trafficked up to a young girls too? To who 0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:09.200 who is it? I need the names from every objective indicator. 0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:14.080 One name not mentioned and cannot be mentioned as Donald Trump. 0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:18.799 They're all saying he's not the one we know in 0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:22.840 New York City. After he did his time in Southeast Florida, 0:54:23.640 --> 0:54:26.480 he went back to his uh to his mansion in 0:54:26.520 --> 0:54:32.520 New York City, and George Sloppanopolis of ABC News went 0:54:32.560 --> 0:54:35.960 to Epstein's welcome home dinner at his mansion in Manhattan 0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:39.160 and some of the people there were the shakers and 0:54:39.239 --> 0:54:42.760 movers of media throughout New York City, including Katy Corek. 0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:48.880 What a decent human being associate with a known sexual 0:54:48.920 --> 0:54:53.439 trafficker of girls? What did George Slappinopolis know and when 0:54:53.480 --> 0:54:56.520 did he know it? Or Katy Corek, hell, I don't know? 0:54:58.520 --> 0:55:02.080 And uh Saane Maxwell had the ability of come clean 0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:03.680 with a whole bunch of names, get out of jail 0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:04.280 free card. 0:55:04.760 --> 0:55:07.000 She didn't do any of it. She accepted a twenty 0:55:07.080 --> 0:55:07.600 year sentence. 0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:10.560 When she was on trial, the prosecutors tried to get 0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:13.960 her to come clean, tell us what you know, you're 0:55:13.960 --> 0:55:16.359 gonna if you're convicted, you're gonna go to prison for 0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:20.560 like decades. And she's sixty three years old. Right she 0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:23.560 went to trial, she was fifty nine. Lay out what 0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:28.960 you know, and well, we'll trust, but verify you know anything. 0:55:29.040 --> 0:55:32.880 She says, I wouldn't believe it. You'd have to have 0:55:32.920 --> 0:55:37.680 two or three objective verifications and anything. I wouldn't accept 0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:41.319 what her name is. Terrible person. But she had the 0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:45.440 ability to trade out information in exchange for get out 0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:49.160 of jail free card, and she didn't. She says, I 0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:51.000 have nothing else to say. If I could give you 0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:54.160 more names, I would. She's given us hardly any names 0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:58.960 other than Prince Andrew. Did Prince Andrews sexually molest a 0:55:59.000 --> 0:56:01.520 thousand girls? I don't think, what the hell are we 0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:05.320 talking about. Let's get your calls and we have full lines. 0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:08.240 Get to him the line becomes available, which it never does. 0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:11.040 Eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven. 0:56:11.400 --> 0:56:12.400 We'll see what comes with this. 0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:17.200 And Jeffrey Epstein was a well known financier and a Democrat. 0:56:18.400 --> 0:56:23.360 A Democrat. He was a Democrat. He wasn't a Donald 0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:27.040 Trump mega Republican. In fact, Donald Trump kicked him out 0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:30.279 of mar A Lago in like twenty oh six, twenty 0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:32.320 oh seven when this stuff started in Miami. 0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:34.600 Trump say he's a bad guy, he's out of here. 0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:38.080 But Donald Trump's the only one held responsible for all 0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:38.600 this crap. 0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:44.040 And according to NBC News, President's name appeared frequently in 0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:47.160 the emails, but Jeffrey Epstein did not in these files. 0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:52.399 Twenty thousand plus other exhibits accuse Donald Trump of any 0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:54.360 wrongdoing or a legal activity. 0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:57.240 So what in the hell are we talking about? 0:56:58.920 --> 0:56:59.000 Now? 0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:02.360 Your calls continued, Bill Cunning in the Great American with 0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:04.440 all give me your thoughts on this, Bill Cunning and 0:57:04.480 --> 0:57:18.680 the Great American with you every Sunday. No, well, u's 0:57:18.680 --> 0:57:23.160 continue with your calls and just refresh my truth social account. 0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:28.480 How about this one quote from Donald Trump himself tonight quote, 0:57:28.680 --> 0:57:33.320 House Republicans should vote to release the Epstein files because 0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:36.520 we have nothing to hide. He wrote that about an 0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:39.200 hour ago. I haven't refreshed truth Social since I got 0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:41.280 on the air, let me try that again. 0:57:41.960 --> 0:57:44.520 I just had a call from Saint Louis. Quote. 0:57:44.880 --> 0:57:49.320 House Republicans should vote to release the Epstein files because 0:57:49.320 --> 0:57:52.400 we have nothing to hide truth, Trump wrote on Truth 0:57:52.480 --> 0:58:00.960 Social Sunday night tonight. So why fight like ray not 0:58:01.120 --> 0:58:05.160 to release the files. Call Marjorie Trader Green, go after 0:58:05.240 --> 0:58:08.400 Thomas Massey. If you're going to say release the files, 0:58:08.400 --> 0:58:09.280 what the hell? 0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:09.560 What? 0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:10.720 So? 0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:17.920 If the House Oversight Committee releases all the files of 0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:24.160 Jeffrey Epstein, if the Estate of Jeffrey Epstein releases all 0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:28.480 the files and emails that they have, if the Department 0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:32.920 of Justice under Donald Trump and Pam Bondy release all 0:58:32.960 --> 0:58:39.200 the files, well that satisfy anybody. No, they're still grand 0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:45.000 jury testimony under oath in the Southern District of Florida 0:58:45.160 --> 0:58:48.440 that have not been released because it's grand jury testimony 0:58:48.760 --> 0:58:53.320 generally not released even though Epstein is dead. But the 0:58:53.320 --> 0:58:55.680 federal judge there said, no, we're not going to release it. 0:58:55.680 --> 0:58:58.880 It's not one of the exceptions. So will this satisfy 0:58:59.000 --> 0:59:04.080 the suffering from TDS Trump to arrangement syndrome. No, we're 0:59:04.120 --> 0:59:08.880 not satisfying because it'll be a bombshell that Trump's name 0:59:09.400 --> 0:59:12.840 is mentioned in an email, not that he's committed any offense, 0:59:13.160 --> 0:59:16.080 but that his name is mentioned in an email. That'll 0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:19.880 be it. Let's continue. Thousands on old millions are listening. 0:59:20.280 --> 0:59:24.840 Let's go to Gerald and Jacksonville, Florida. And uh, Gerald 0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:28.160 and Jacksonville, Florida. Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Gerald, 0:59:28.160 --> 0:59:30.000 how are you fine? 0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:32.800 Mister Turnham think you're thinking about Cole that as always 0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:37.120 holding tight you live big bugs bite just quick emphasis. 0:59:37.160 --> 0:59:39.360 I want to give my condoledness to the pre family 0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:42.320 first of all, utmost and all the other ones that 0:59:42.320 --> 0:59:43.320 had been victimized. 0:59:44.000 --> 0:59:45.920 It might have been young at their time and probably 0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:48.320 eradicated it. And what they're doing, the jimmies there just 0:59:48.440 --> 0:59:51.680 stored and dirty laundry. They got enough else better to do. 0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:55.320 So if President trub wants to settle it, you know 0:59:55.360 --> 0:59:58.160 are because he's the president of the United States. They 0:59:58.240 --> 1:00:01.240 waited so long to sign the bill for openly unfortunately, 1:00:01.840 --> 1:00:05.040 so this is like in your face as he wants to. 1:00:05.400 --> 1:00:08.560 He's the president and sure enough can step back a 1:00:08.560 --> 1:00:11.760 little squador a little bit, not as Republican buddies. 1:00:11.440 --> 1:00:13.880 So well, he said, he said, about forty minutes ago. 1:00:14.440 --> 1:00:17.160 He wants now the Republicans to vote to release. So 1:00:17.720 --> 1:00:20.240 what's going to happen now here we go? The House 1:00:20.280 --> 1:00:22.480 is going to vote on Tuesday or Wednesday. Okay, it's 1:00:22.520 --> 1:00:26.480 gonna be overwhelming. Release the release the files from DOJ 1:00:27.040 --> 1:00:29.480 whatever is in control of the executive branch of government. 1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:30.680 I release it. 1:00:30.800 --> 1:00:32.880 Then they're going to go to the Senate, and I hope. 1:00:32.960 --> 1:00:35.760 John Thune of South Dakota quickly says, okay, we're going 1:00:35.800 --> 1:00:38.080 to vote on that immediately, and then had the President 1:00:38.200 --> 1:00:41.040 sign it. And whatever it is it is, there'll be 1:00:41.080 --> 1:00:43.800 a bunch of names, maybe innocent parties in there, maybe 1:00:43.840 --> 1:00:44.640 guilty parties. 1:00:44.680 --> 1:00:45.160 I don't know. 1:00:45.640 --> 1:00:49.320 Unfortunately, the President said about an hour ago, release the files. 1:00:49.720 --> 1:00:52.920 It's a reversal. Get it done, whatever it is it is, 1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:53.440 and move on. 1:00:55.640 --> 1:00:58.840 Little caveat in the state of Florida, Bill, if I may, 1:00:59.480 --> 1:01:03.440 there's no steal limitations on pedophiles that might be of 1:01:03.960 --> 1:01:04.320 some people. 1:01:05.120 --> 1:01:07.880 It is, well, you know, I don't want to disagree 1:01:07.920 --> 1:01:11.440 with Megan Kelly, but a pedophile is the is the 1:01:11.560 --> 1:01:14.439 rape or sexual activity with a child under the age 1:01:14.480 --> 1:01:18.640 of eleven or twelve before puberty and so it's it's 1:01:18.680 --> 1:01:21.919 a child rapist different than a pedophile. To me, that's 1:01:21.960 --> 1:01:25.280 a distinction without much of a difference. But nonetheless, there 1:01:25.320 --> 1:01:27.520 should be no statue of limitations on a child. 1:01:28.000 --> 1:01:29.760 Uh you know what the age is in Florida, I 1:01:29.840 --> 1:01:30.240 don't know. 1:01:30.480 --> 1:01:32.480 I have a home there, but I don't know. Is 1:01:32.520 --> 1:01:34.320 a seventeen is a ten or twelve? 1:01:34.520 --> 1:01:35.000 I don't know. 1:01:36.160 --> 1:01:38.600 I'm thinking at eighteen under, eighteen eighteen and under. 1:01:38.600 --> 1:01:39.160 But I'm fine. 1:01:39.600 --> 1:01:42.000 I looked at it. I didn't see the specks, but 1:01:42.080 --> 1:01:44.560 it just said, you know, I read some words real quick. 1:01:44.920 --> 1:01:45.440 Fine with me. 1:01:46.200 --> 1:01:50.400 If some man had sex with a sixteen, seventeen, twelve 1:01:50.480 --> 1:01:53.760 year old, I think the older you get, it's all bad. 1:01:53.920 --> 1:01:55.920 If you have rape a woman who's twenty five, it's 1:01:55.960 --> 1:01:59.160 all bad. And so whatever it is, it is. And 1:01:59.200 --> 1:02:02.840 but according to everyone up to this point, Trump's name 1:02:02.880 --> 1:02:06.120 is gonna be all over the Epstein files, but none 1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:08.640 of it's going to accuse him of wrongful behavior. It'll 1:02:08.680 --> 1:02:12.280 be a bombshell, but it will exonerate Donald Trump, is 1:02:12.320 --> 1:02:14.680 what I what I believe is the case according to 1:02:14.800 --> 1:02:16.919 NBC News. 1:02:16.480 --> 1:02:18.600 And they're just going to flame all the victims. Just 1:02:18.640 --> 1:02:21.880 I think they would honorable Cavanaught. They took time be 1:02:21.960 --> 1:02:24.760 thrue Hill, and you know that's what they're doing now. 1:02:24.840 --> 1:02:28.280 They're scratch these these dead wounds have been very for years, 1:02:28.760 --> 1:02:30.520 and these people are going to be traumatized all over 1:02:30.560 --> 1:02:33.040 again because they want to make pity with the with 1:02:33.120 --> 1:02:34.320 the President of the United States. 1:02:34.680 --> 1:02:36.440 I don't know if you saw Hallie Jackson to not 1:02:36.520 --> 1:02:39.640 an NBC Nightly News, the lead story was like five 1:02:39.720 --> 1:02:42.200 or six of these women. They appeared now to be 1:02:42.280 --> 1:02:46.840 in their thirties, forties and fifties, and they had pictures 1:02:46.840 --> 1:02:48.840 of that where they were teenage girls. They're going to 1:02:48.920 --> 1:02:51.880 be in Congress on Tuesday, and they're gonna let the 1:02:51.960 --> 1:02:53.960 chips fall where they may, whatever it is it is. 1:02:54.200 --> 1:02:57.360 But I would like to know the names of the rapist. 1:02:57.800 --> 1:02:59.560 I want to know the names and the men who 1:02:59.600 --> 1:03:02.200 did this to these girls. I went to know their names. 1:03:02.360 --> 1:03:06.439 They should be held accountable, civilly and or criminally. Gerald, 1:03:06.480 --> 1:03:07.920 do you agree with me. I want to know who 1:03:07.920 --> 1:03:09.040 they are, who these guys are. 1:03:09.080 --> 1:03:09.520 I want to know. 1:03:10.720 --> 1:03:14.280 I'm totally one hundred percent plus. I mean, there's no 1:03:14.360 --> 1:03:16.360 sense to it, and they can have behind their money 1:03:16.360 --> 1:03:20.000 as long as they want but fuster earlier just. 1:03:19.880 --> 1:03:20.640 To prevail hope. 1:03:20.960 --> 1:03:22.840 Whatever it is, let freedom ring. 1:03:22.960 --> 1:03:25.560 But the President said about an hour or so ago, 1:03:26.120 --> 1:03:28.800 telling Republicans to vote yes, release the files. 1:03:28.800 --> 1:03:29.240 There we go. 1:03:29.400 --> 1:03:31.920 Let's go to padd and Columbus, the home of the Buckeyes. 1:03:32.400 --> 1:03:34.880 Padd and Columbus. Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. Pat, 1:03:34.920 --> 1:03:36.720 how are you well? 1:03:36.760 --> 1:03:38.840 I want to point out a problem that you have 1:03:39.040 --> 1:03:43.800 with your logic, because you are applying a twenty twenty 1:03:43.800 --> 1:03:48.160 five attitude towards something that happened thirty years ago. 1:03:48.720 --> 1:03:49.520 And I can. 1:03:49.400 --> 1:03:54.360 Promise you a willing fifteen year old thirty years ago 1:03:54.720 --> 1:03:57.480 was considered a lucky thing for a guy to find. 1:03:57.960 --> 1:04:01.080 He was not concerned about whether she was eighteen. And 1:04:01.160 --> 1:04:03.960 I'm talking thirty years ago, so it. 1:04:04.520 --> 1:04:07.680 You know you're using the word victim like you think 1:04:07.760 --> 1:04:11.840 these poor girls were so victimized. I can promise you 1:04:12.360 --> 1:04:16.560 as a victim myself, if I had been offered the 1:04:16.680 --> 1:04:21.280 opportunity to give a massage to a naked man, I 1:04:21.440 --> 1:04:25.560 certainly would have known that the sex was going to 1:04:25.600 --> 1:04:28.840 be involved. And this gal had to be dumber than. 1:04:28.760 --> 1:04:29.920 A box of rocks. 1:04:29.960 --> 1:04:33.280 And these girls all knew what they were doing, and 1:04:33.320 --> 1:04:35.800 the reason they haven't named any. 1:04:35.520 --> 1:04:39.120 Of their supposed rapists because. 1:04:38.800 --> 1:04:42.840 They were never raped, they were willingly having sex. 1:04:43.920 --> 1:04:48.880 The nineties, I did criminal defense work representing generally men 1:04:49.640 --> 1:04:55.200 charged with sexual offenses against women. It was some point 1:04:55.200 --> 1:04:58.480 in the nineteen nineties and when from fifteen years old 1:04:59.000 --> 1:05:03.600 to sixteen years old, but in the mid nineteen nineties 1:05:03.640 --> 1:05:06.000 in the state of Ohio. Of course this happened in 1:05:06.000 --> 1:05:09.240 New York or Florida or on some island in the Caribbean, 1:05:09.880 --> 1:05:14.080 but it was illegal in the nineteen nineties for a 1:05:14.240 --> 1:05:17.600 man over the four years age different, So if you 1:05:17.640 --> 1:05:20.960 were twenty one, you cannot have legally have sex with 1:05:21.000 --> 1:05:23.920 a sixteen year old in the state of Ohio. Now 1:05:23.920 --> 1:05:26.360 it doesn't apply to Florida and New York. We'll see 1:05:26.360 --> 1:05:30.560 what that is. Let's continue go to Dale and Iowa, 1:05:30.640 --> 1:05:33.760 the home of the Hawkeyes and the Cyclones. Dale and Iowa. 1:05:33.840 --> 1:05:36.120 Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Dale, how are you. 1:05:38.240 --> 1:05:39.040 I'm doing fine. 1:05:39.080 --> 1:05:41.640 I hope when I retire from my law just all 1:05:41.760 --> 1:05:45.000 kick back and MIA's relaxed and calm as using to be. 1:05:46.520 --> 1:05:49.760 I let listeners have their say, even though I may disagree. 1:05:50.040 --> 1:05:53.640 Graves ipseil loquitor. The thing speaks for itself. It is 1:05:53.720 --> 1:05:57.000 illegal for a man, at least in Ohio maybe Iowa 1:05:57.320 --> 1:05:59.440 with more than a four year age difference for an 1:05:59.520 --> 1:06:02.240 underage girl has been that way for a long time. 1:06:04.240 --> 1:06:07.120 You met, I think you're the Joe Friday of media 1:06:07.200 --> 1:06:10.520 these days, getting the facts out there. The question about 1:06:10.560 --> 1:06:13.560 Donald Trump not getting the information out I hope that 1:06:14.080 --> 1:06:18.000 lady who was waiting to be sworn in realizes wasn't 1:06:18.000 --> 1:06:20.080 that important that she get in there? To get in 1:06:20.120 --> 1:06:23.320 on this boat. He's tried, the courts of stocked in. 1:06:23.440 --> 1:06:27.720 Congress hasn't been there. The media hasn't put anything out there. 1:06:27.880 --> 1:06:30.640 Nobody's going to believe any of them. I wonder where's 1:06:30.640 --> 1:06:33.600 Gloria Allred, who's supposed to represent something in these folks. 1:06:34.200 --> 1:06:37.280 Well, why doesn't Gloria all Red make public the names 1:06:37.360 --> 1:06:40.920 of the perpetrators? She can give them the Roe Conna. 1:06:41.080 --> 1:06:44.600 He's got complete constitutional immunity on the floor of the 1:06:44.640 --> 1:06:47.760 House of Representatives to say anything he wants to say. 1:06:48.360 --> 1:06:48.640 Why. 1:06:48.920 --> 1:06:51.320 I'll ask you this, Dale, why aren't the names out 1:06:51.320 --> 1:06:54.720 there identified by the victims. If I'm a victim of 1:06:54.760 --> 1:06:57.200 a sexual assault, I'm going to want to identify the 1:06:57.200 --> 1:06:59.200 person that did it to me right. 1:07:00.280 --> 1:07:02.680 Well, it's a complete mystery, and I thought a lot 1:07:02.720 --> 1:07:05.560 of this had been in the courts where that information 1:07:05.760 --> 1:07:07.160 was out there, and I did want to say. The 1:07:07.200 --> 1:07:10.400 reason I initially called was why is Maxwell moved to 1:07:10.400 --> 1:07:13.520 where she is? I think it's proof to keep her 1:07:13.560 --> 1:07:16.720 alive rather than have what happened to Epstein. 1:07:17.800 --> 1:07:19.520 Well, that's possible. I don't know. 1:07:20.240 --> 1:07:23.320 Being in federal prison, whether it's one of the lower 1:07:23.360 --> 1:07:26.320 security or whatever, is bad. I wouldn't want to spend 1:07:26.360 --> 1:07:29.160 the next fifteen years in a women's prison until I'm 1:07:29.200 --> 1:07:31.680 like eighty years old, which is what she's facing. And 1:07:31.760 --> 1:07:35.000 if you've practiced Lowdale, if you're sixty years old and 1:07:35.000 --> 1:07:37.480 you're on trial for your life, and you get a 1:07:37.560 --> 1:07:39.680 deal put in front of you, you give us a 1:07:39.760 --> 1:07:43.760 full factual statement of all the men who raped these girls, 1:07:44.280 --> 1:07:47.600 and we will verify what you're saying is accurate. We 1:07:47.680 --> 1:07:50.360 will cut your sentence in half for by one third 1:07:50.480 --> 1:07:54.240 or two thirds. Most people would do it, correct. 1:07:54.760 --> 1:07:55.760 I would guess they would. 1:07:55.760 --> 1:07:56.840 But let she didn't do this. 1:07:57.080 --> 1:07:57.640 She didn't. 1:07:57.680 --> 1:08:01.080 Would you believe that person is going to do that? 1:08:02.040 --> 1:08:02.400 Trust? 1:08:02.440 --> 1:08:06.560 But I'd have to verify it. You know, you have 1:08:06.640 --> 1:08:09.360 to verify it. And I wouldn't trust the damn thing 1:08:10.000 --> 1:08:10.880 Juliane Maxwell. 1:08:10.920 --> 1:08:11.200 Whatever. 1:08:11.760 --> 1:08:13.640 If she told me the sun rose in the East, 1:08:13.680 --> 1:08:15.080 I'd have to get up and some break to make 1:08:15.120 --> 1:08:18.360 sure it does. But she's allfered the deal, and she 1:08:18.400 --> 1:08:21.400 didn't take the deal because she says, I can't give 1:08:21.439 --> 1:08:24.080 any names because there aren't anymore. You know, a couple 1:08:24.080 --> 1:08:24.840 of them and that's it. 1:08:25.640 --> 1:08:27.920 And I don't believe her. I don't believe her. 1:08:29.160 --> 1:08:31.519 I would ask her and the other ladies to identify 1:08:31.560 --> 1:08:32.880 the tattoos on these people. 1:08:33.280 --> 1:08:36.120 And there's ways of identifying. You say you had guessed 1:08:36.680 --> 1:08:40.599 sex with Bill Richardson, who's the ambassador from New Mexico. 1:08:40.680 --> 1:08:44.160 He's now dead. Well, uh, where did it happen? How 1:08:44.200 --> 1:08:47.439 did it happen? Give me distinguishing traits of his body, 1:08:47.680 --> 1:08:50.519 who was present when it occur? There's ways of you know, 1:08:50.560 --> 1:08:54.040 the East rape investigators know exactly what they're doing. And 1:08:54.080 --> 1:08:56.880 I'm not saying every case, but if I'm a victim 1:08:56.920 --> 1:08:59.439 of a crime, I want to identify the perpetrator and 1:08:59.479 --> 1:09:00.680 these girls to know them. 1:09:01.080 --> 1:09:02.639 Let's continue. 1:09:03.760 --> 1:09:06.000 Go to I said Gale, And let's go to Mike 1:09:06.040 --> 1:09:08.479 and Wisconsin. It's been there for a couple hours. Mike 1:09:08.560 --> 1:09:11.240 and Wisconsin. Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. Mike, how are 1:09:11.280 --> 1:09:13.280 you hey? 1:09:13.520 --> 1:09:15.880 Billy from Wisconsin, And like you said to one of 1:09:15.920 --> 1:09:20.320 the previous callers, who our Brewers often beat the Reds 1:09:20.360 --> 1:09:22.200 as well, So no. 1:09:22.200 --> 1:09:26.200 Question, no question. But the Reds in Milwaukee two of 1:09:26.240 --> 1:09:28.880 the last three games. They beat Milwaukee twice up there 1:09:29.040 --> 1:09:31.280 to get into the plays. 1:09:31.760 --> 1:09:33.800 I was in both games, Billy, Hey. 1:09:34.360 --> 1:09:37.559 Three bullet points for you to comment on as an attorney. 1:09:37.640 --> 1:09:42.640 Number One, under the first Trump administration, both Epstein and 1:09:43.000 --> 1:09:46.719 Maxwell were indicted. Now, any president who wanted to hide 1:09:46.760 --> 1:09:50.840 something would not tell his doj to start an indictment 1:09:50.880 --> 1:09:54.120 because it leads to discovery and you wouldn't want something 1:09:54.120 --> 1:09:57.639 that you were trying to hide to be discovered. Number Two, 1:09:58.040 --> 1:10:01.040 if you're right and there were one thousand girls involved 1:10:01.040 --> 1:10:03.519 in this, and I pity them, we have to really 1:10:04.240 --> 1:10:07.439 empathize with you. There's always the chance that one or 1:10:07.479 --> 1:10:10.120 two of them could, you know, be a blasy for 1:10:10.320 --> 1:10:12.640 it and make up some story about the president, and 1:10:12.680 --> 1:10:15.760 that may be what these TDS people are hoping for. 1:10:15.880 --> 1:10:19.800 And then third bullet point, Billy. You know, I've testified 1:10:19.800 --> 1:10:23.640 before at grand jury. I've given testimony under seal that 1:10:23.720 --> 1:10:26.639 the judge promised me would never be revealed. And I'm 1:10:26.640 --> 1:10:31.080 afraid that if Congress forces the Court's hand to unseal 1:10:31.240 --> 1:10:35.640 documents these girls, these now women have a right to privacy. 1:10:35.680 --> 1:10:38.040 If they don't want their names to be revealed, it 1:10:38.160 --> 1:10:42.800 shouldn't be revealed. And and I'm afraid that future witnesses 1:10:43.120 --> 1:10:46.960 like me may not be as free to give testimony 1:10:47.439 --> 1:10:51.320 if they're not confident that their testimony will never be unsealed. 1:10:51.760 --> 1:10:53.120 I'd like your opinion on those. 1:10:54.800 --> 1:10:57.240 I would think the bulk of these women, most of 1:10:57.280 --> 1:11:02.040 them have been identified because they've gone on CNN, RAMUSNBC, ABC, NBC. 1:11:02.320 --> 1:11:05.680 They're out there with their face and their name, and 1:11:05.760 --> 1:11:09.120 they're saying these things happen to them without specificity of 1:11:09.160 --> 1:11:11.920 the perpetrator. Now, if it's grand jury testimony, you have 1:11:11.960 --> 1:11:15.240 an expectation of privacy. What you say before grand jury 1:11:15.320 --> 1:11:18.479 is kept there except during a trial. The grand jury 1:11:18.880 --> 1:11:21.240 transcript that we be released to impeach a witness, but 1:11:21.320 --> 1:11:24.479 that doesn't apply in this case. But I don't know 1:11:24.520 --> 1:11:27.000 if it's a thousand girls, one said tonight there was 1:11:27.040 --> 1:11:30.439 a thousand girls, well who are they and what do 1:11:30.479 --> 1:11:33.120 they alleged happen? And I'm sure a great majority of 1:11:33.160 --> 1:11:35.240 them don't want their name published. They don't want to 1:11:35.280 --> 1:11:37.639 go through it again. But those who put their names 1:11:37.680 --> 1:11:41.519 out there, and our national media tours and our plaintiffs 1:11:41.560 --> 1:11:45.040 and class action lawsuits have waived their right to privacy 1:11:45.120 --> 1:11:48.920 because of their voluntary behavior, those are the ones that 1:11:49.000 --> 1:11:52.160 should be asked. Tonight by Hallie Jackson, NBC Nightly News, 1:11:52.800 --> 1:11:55.040 give me the names of the men who raped you? 1:11:55.880 --> 1:11:57.000 And that was not asked. 1:11:57.040 --> 1:11:59.840 And maybe there's an agreement with the NBC who's not 1:11:59.840 --> 1:12:02.599 the ask him that question, which I guess I would get. 1:12:02.760 --> 1:12:05.559 But if your name is out there already, you waived 1:12:05.560 --> 1:12:09.360 your rights under privacy laws, and you want to put 1:12:09.439 --> 1:12:13.360 what happened out there is reality, somebody should ask them 1:12:13.680 --> 1:12:17.800 who raped you? And most victims of a rape want 1:12:17.840 --> 1:12:21.920 to identify the perpetrator, either publicly or privately. And so 1:12:22.200 --> 1:12:24.519 let's get the names out there. Now that Trump has 1:12:24.520 --> 1:12:27.839 set house, Republicans should support the release of the Epstein 1:12:27.880 --> 1:12:29.720 FILESY put that out there about an hour and a 1:12:29.720 --> 1:12:32.519 half ago. Let's see what happens this is going to 1:12:32.600 --> 1:12:34.840 dominate the news all the way through this week. 1:12:34.880 --> 1:12:38.400 Do you agree, absolutely, Billie. 1:12:38.400 --> 1:12:40.480 It will dominate the news and it is a distraction 1:12:40.920 --> 1:12:42.880 from the achievements of the Trump administration. 1:12:43.280 --> 1:12:47.040 The media bingo right there because NBC News has said 1:12:47.560 --> 1:12:50.960 tonight that none of the files released so far implicate 1:12:51.040 --> 1:12:55.559 Donald Trump in anything improper or illegal. That's from NBC News. 1:12:55.920 --> 1:13:00.200 Let's continue coming up later after midnight. Jeff cru will 1:13:00.240 --> 1:13:02.479 be here from New Orleans and Losso later on. As 1:13:02.800 --> 1:13:06.920 Katie Talento about obamacaarn Wyatt failed. This is driving me nuts. 1:13:06.960 --> 1:13:09.519 Got to get on another topic until next Sunday Night. 1:13:09.560 --> 1:13:19.240 Bill Cunningham with you Every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham. 1:13:19.760 --> 1:13:23.360 President said tonight, we have nothing to hide. This is 1:13:23.400 --> 1:13:28.679 a democratic hoax. Quote House Republicans should vote to release 1:13:28.720 --> 1:13:31.880 the Epstein files because we have nothing to hide. It's 1:13:31.880 --> 1:13:35.240 time to move on from this democratic hoax perpetrated by 1:13:35.320 --> 1:13:38.400 radical left lunatics in order to deflect from the great 1:13:38.400 --> 1:13:41.800 success of the Republican Party, including our recent victory over 1:13:41.840 --> 1:13:46.719 the Democratic shutdown. So we'll see what happens this week. 1:13:46.760 --> 1:13:49.360 I would think this will be a topic gay throughout 1:13:49.400 --> 1:13:52.120 most of the week. And also next Sunday night, we'll 1:13:52.160 --> 1:13:57.560 see what happens and the Trump reversal comes. As expectations 1:13:57.560 --> 1:14:01.960 of a mass GOP defection, the House grew out of 1:14:02.000 --> 1:14:05.000 a vote this week, and there was a sense that 1:14:05.080 --> 1:14:08.920 when Senator John Kennedy Louisiana stepped forward this morning and 1:14:08.960 --> 1:14:11.240 said he's going to vote to release it, there was 1:14:11.280 --> 1:14:15.599 no support not to do it. So all I can 1:14:15.640 --> 1:14:19.080 say is is of this point, According to NBC News, 1:14:19.640 --> 1:14:23.040 none of the Epstein files at this point implicate the 1:14:23.040 --> 1:14:27.439 president whatsoever. And if Jeffrey Epstein would implicate implicate the president, 1:14:27.439 --> 1:14:30.720 which he didn't do, I wouldn't believe it anyway. If 1:14:31.040 --> 1:14:34.800 Julane Maxwell implicates the president, I wouldn't believe her anyway. 1:14:34.840 --> 1:14:37.519 Would you so a trust but verify? 1:14:37.640 --> 1:14:39.439 But it's all going to be out there, we think soon, 1:14:40.080 --> 1:14:43.200 and it will not play kate those suffering from Trump 1:14:43.240 --> 1:14:47.880 to derangement syndrome simply and make them angry. If if 1:14:47.920 --> 1:14:51.519 the artful dodger gets at the road runner gets away again, 1:14:51.920 --> 1:14:54.360 it's going to make angry the media because everything about 1:14:54.400 --> 1:14:58.240 Trump is a bombshell, even the bombshell that Trump, according 1:14:58.280 --> 1:15:02.679 to the Epstein files, is innocent that's still a bombshell. 1:15:02.720 --> 1:15:04.960 Let's continue with more coming up. I'm going to put 1:15:04.960 --> 1:15:06.880 a call in Jeffrey crue Air. He's got a great 1:15:06.880 --> 1:15:10.479 column at town hall dot com about about tariffs and 1:15:10.600 --> 1:15:12.880 so much more. Also later on, I want to get 1:15:12.920 --> 1:15:14.920 on a different topic until we learn more about this 1:15:15.000 --> 1:15:17.559 later in the week. Put a call in to Katie Talento. 1:15:18.040 --> 1:15:22.000 Katie Talento, she was part of the Trump organization in 1:15:22.080 --> 1:15:25.600 the in the White House and his first term fashioning 1:15:25.600 --> 1:15:29.599 opposition to Obamacare, which has failed. 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But Jeff crue Air has 1:16:30.880 --> 1:16:34.519 headquartered New Orleans, and he's an author radio talk show 1:16:34.520 --> 1:16:38.400 host and his great columns at townhall dot com and elsewhere. 1:16:38.960 --> 1:16:41.599 One of the columns is the genius of Trump's tariffs 1:16:41.880 --> 1:16:44.599 and Jeff crue Air. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show, 1:16:44.640 --> 1:16:47.720 and I'll report to you what happened in Cincinnati the 1:16:47.760 --> 1:16:50.280 election last week or so a few days ago. I 1:16:50.320 --> 1:16:52.040 want to hear about New Orleans. But we have a 1:16:52.120 --> 1:16:55.439 mayor that's failed miserably. We have riots happening all over 1:16:55.479 --> 1:16:58.000 the city when we have snow. You know much about 1:16:58.040 --> 1:17:03.240 the New Orleans. The plows don't work, there's no pickup 1:17:03.320 --> 1:17:03.960 ice and snow. 1:17:04.000 --> 1:17:06.120 The assault's not going on the streets. It's terrible. 1:17:06.360 --> 1:17:08.400 We have numerous council members in the past that have 1:17:08.439 --> 1:17:11.640 been indicted and sent to federal prison. We have a 1:17:11.680 --> 1:17:15.200 police chief that's been fired now for dubious reasons. He's 1:17:15.240 --> 1:17:17.680 also fired the chief of the fire department and the 1:17:17.680 --> 1:17:18.439 assistant chief. 1:17:18.439 --> 1:17:19.640 With complete chaos. 1:17:19.960 --> 1:17:21.600 So instead of the mayor f to a peer of 1:17:21.640 --> 1:17:23.600 all getting eighty two percent of the vote, which he 1:17:23.680 --> 1:17:26.280 got four years ago with all these scandals going on, 1:17:26.720 --> 1:17:28.840 he got seventy eight percent of the vote. So the 1:17:28.920 --> 1:17:31.120 voter has held him accountable from eighty two to seventy 1:17:31.160 --> 1:17:33.800 eight percent and the half brother of jad Advance didn't 1:17:33.800 --> 1:17:34.400 get a sniff. 1:17:34.680 --> 1:17:36.560 What happened in New Orleans. 1:17:38.080 --> 1:17:42.439 Well, our mayor's term limited LaToya the Destroyer, so she 1:17:42.560 --> 1:17:46.759 cannot run again. She is going to be facing charges. 1:17:46.800 --> 1:17:50.920 You know, she's indicted, so we'll see. It was all 1:17:50.960 --> 1:17:55.360 because of a boyfriend, bodyguard that you know, has caused 1:17:55.360 --> 1:17:59.000 her all kinds of trouble. And she tried to appeal 1:17:59.040 --> 1:18:01.640 to the judge to allow her to be with the 1:18:01.680 --> 1:18:06.080 bodyguard and because he's under indictment too, and they said no, 1:18:06.160 --> 1:18:10.600 they could only be together in supervised setting. What so, 1:18:10.600 --> 1:18:11.160 so I got. 1:18:11.000 --> 1:18:11.800 The mayor and the boys. 1:18:11.840 --> 1:18:14.599 I guess these are adults, right, they're like fifty year olds. 1:18:14.680 --> 1:18:15.960 They got to be supervised. 1:18:17.120 --> 1:18:19.720 Yeah, they got to be supervised. And I think it's 1:18:19.720 --> 1:18:21.679 probably a good thing for them to be supervised because 1:18:21.680 --> 1:18:24.680 he does what their could do. But yeah, so she 1:18:24.920 --> 1:18:27.240 is going to be dealing with that. She's left the city. 1:18:27.280 --> 1:18:29.919 In match, we got one hundred and sixty million dollar deficit. 1:18:31.000 --> 1:18:34.719 They budgeted fifty seven thousand for overtime that actually wound 1:18:34.840 --> 1:18:38.800 up costing about sixty million dollars in overtime because we 1:18:38.880 --> 1:18:41.920 had a we had a terrorist attack, We had the 1:18:41.960 --> 1:18:44.880 Super Bowl, we had the Sugar Bowl, we had Martie Gras, 1:18:45.240 --> 1:18:49.200 and they budgeted fifty seven thousand for police overtime, and 1:18:49.240 --> 1:18:52.240 they were about sixty million dollars off on that, and 1:18:52.280 --> 1:18:56.120 then all the other shenanigans involving there. There are ridiculous 1:18:56.200 --> 1:19:02.200 budgeting and they're ridiculous spending. So now tomorrow Bill the 1:19:02.240 --> 1:19:05.000 big day. They're meeting with state officials to see if 1:19:05.000 --> 1:19:07.400 they can get bailed out by the State of Louisiana. 1:19:08.479 --> 1:19:12.960 Will the state require a fiscal administrator, which is someone 1:19:13.040 --> 1:19:16.679 to babysit them and make sure the money is spent 1:19:17.000 --> 1:19:19.559 in the right way, So basically the state would be 1:19:19.680 --> 1:19:23.200 running the city. The city's balking at that. They want 1:19:23.240 --> 1:19:25.320 to do some kind of compromise where they have an 1:19:25.360 --> 1:19:29.559 oversight but not an administrator. Will the state give the money. 1:19:29.640 --> 1:19:33.599 We'll find out tomorrow. So bottom line is New Orleans 1:19:33.640 --> 1:19:36.120 has got a prison it is run by the federal 1:19:36.120 --> 1:19:39.759 government under a federal consent decree. We've got a police 1:19:39.800 --> 1:19:42.120 apartment that's run by the federal government under a federal 1:19:42.120 --> 1:19:45.840 consent decree. And we could have a city hall pretty 1:19:45.880 --> 1:19:48.559 much run by the State of Louisiana. So really, the 1:19:48.560 --> 1:19:50.880 city of New Orleans at some point man will be 1:19:50.920 --> 1:19:52.000 really running nothing. 1:19:52.360 --> 1:19:55.759 Well, the city of Cincinnati can't figure it out because 1:19:55.800 --> 1:19:58.200 are the voters. I imagine the voters New Orleans can't 1:19:58.240 --> 1:20:01.680 figure it out. And Landry, I guess the governor Louisiana 1:20:01.920 --> 1:20:04.840 is all angry about LSU. Maybe the guy who negotiated 1:20:04.880 --> 1:20:07.439 the contract for Brian Kelly could get Maybe that guy 1:20:07.439 --> 1:20:09.800 could get involved in running the city New Orleans. They 1:20:09.800 --> 1:20:11.720 appeared to be equally competent. 1:20:12.479 --> 1:20:16.479 Right, the same guy that hired jimbo Fisher, and I 1:20:16.520 --> 1:20:18.920 guess they had to pay him seventy three million. Scott 1:20:18.960 --> 1:20:22.519 Woodward wound up hiring Brian Kelly, and they got to 1:20:22.680 --> 1:20:25.639 know paying fifty four million. They're at illegal to speed 1:20:25.720 --> 1:20:27.840 right now as to whether he was fired for calls 1:20:27.960 --> 1:20:29.519 or not, whether they're going to owe him the full 1:20:29.600 --> 1:20:32.519 fifty four million. So that's going to be going on 1:20:32.680 --> 1:20:33.200 for a while. 1:20:33.200 --> 1:20:33.720 We don't have it. 1:20:33.720 --> 1:20:36.160 We have an interim coach, we just got a new 1:20:36.320 --> 1:20:40.000 LSU president. Looks like the governor wants to run and everything, 1:20:40.200 --> 1:20:41.840 so I don't know. 1:20:41.880 --> 1:20:44.840 We got opportunities everywhere. 1:20:45.080 --> 1:20:49.479 So New Orleans they budgeted fifty seven thousand dollars for overtime. 1:20:49.600 --> 1:20:51.519 LaToya the destroyer with a little bit off. Instead of 1:20:51.520 --> 1:20:54.960 fifty seven thousand, it was sixty million. They're upside down, 1:20:55.080 --> 1:20:59.040 hundreds of millions of dollars. She's indicted for lying, and 1:20:59.080 --> 1:21:02.160 she's having sex with the boyfriend who's also the bodyguard, 1:21:02.439 --> 1:21:04.519 and now they have a chaperone. One of those two 1:21:04.560 --> 1:21:06.960 get together to do what keep your hands out of 1:21:06.960 --> 1:21:07.519 her pants? 1:21:07.640 --> 1:21:12.720 What the hell's going on? And now you can't make 1:21:12.760 --> 1:21:15.800 this up? And so I guess Louisiana's got to bail 1:21:15.840 --> 1:21:18.400 out New Orleans. It's amazing to me. 1:21:18.720 --> 1:21:21.960 Cincinnati has run like New Orleans, but when you face 1:21:22.040 --> 1:21:24.200 the voters, where's the accountability? 1:21:25.800 --> 1:21:26.040 Right? 1:21:26.520 --> 1:21:28.479 Well, here in New Orleans, we just had elections, so 1:21:28.560 --> 1:21:32.519 LaToya that destroyed couldn't run again. But the councilwoman at large, 1:21:32.840 --> 1:21:36.599 Helena Moreno, who's really been overseeing this whole thing as 1:21:36.680 --> 1:21:39.800 council president, she just got elected mayor. 1:21:39.920 --> 1:21:40.879 So she said she's. 1:21:40.720 --> 1:21:42.720 Going to bring in changes, But she's been there the 1:21:42.760 --> 1:21:46.240 whole time sort of watching everything and doing nothing. So 1:21:46.240 --> 1:21:48.040 how are they going to bring in changes? When they 1:21:48.120 --> 1:21:51.040 hired someone from the city council to be the new mayor? 1:21:51.760 --> 1:21:55.439 And they just re elected the other councilmen at large, 1:21:55.600 --> 1:21:59.679 and they put some new politicians into some other council positions. 1:21:59.680 --> 1:22:03.160 So they've brought in nobody knew, nobody reform oriented. No 1:22:03.320 --> 1:22:07.559 Republicans have a prayer. The Republican got like two percent 1:22:07.600 --> 1:22:10.759 of the vote and the mayor's race and eight percent 1:22:10.880 --> 1:22:13.000 of the vote in the city council race. 1:22:14.160 --> 1:22:17.120 Jadie Vance's half brother here got like twenty one percent, 1:22:17.680 --> 1:22:19.559 and he thought that was good. At least you don't 1:22:19.560 --> 1:22:22.479 have a communist running New Orleans like Mamdani them. At 1:22:22.520 --> 1:22:23.599 least you don't have communists. 1:22:23.640 --> 1:22:27.160 You have incompetence, right, we just have a just a 1:22:27.200 --> 1:22:33.000 traditional garden variety super left progressive democrat, not a communist. 1:22:33.160 --> 1:22:36.519 He's a former broadcaster. See they come from television. People 1:22:36.560 --> 1:22:40.400 trust him on TV and then they run for political office. 1:22:40.720 --> 1:22:42.880 Before we talk about the teriffs, your column is great 1:22:42.880 --> 1:22:44.080 of a couple few days ago. 1:22:44.360 --> 1:22:45.559 I want to get your take to it. 1:22:45.640 --> 1:22:49.080 The Democrats and the Republicans in Washington and the Senate, 1:22:49.200 --> 1:22:52.960 the Democrats have voted seventeen times to shut down the government. 1:22:53.560 --> 1:22:56.479 They Republicans have voted seventeen times to keep it open. 1:22:56.840 --> 1:22:59.360 And now it's back open, ready to go. And now 1:22:59.400 --> 1:23:02.720 the Democrats are saying Trump shut down the government, when 1:23:02.760 --> 1:23:05.720 Trump is the one opening the government and the Democrats 1:23:05.720 --> 1:23:08.439 are the ones shutting down the government. Now we're being 1:23:08.479 --> 1:23:11.200 told by the media that Trump shut down the government 1:23:11.320 --> 1:23:14.320 and the Democrats had nothing to do with it. Uh, 1:23:14.360 --> 1:23:16.719 my head is swimming. For those who aren't paying attention, 1:23:17.160 --> 1:23:19.440 describe what's happening in Washington. 1:23:20.439 --> 1:23:21.719 I think he described it well. 1:23:21.760 --> 1:23:26.400 I mean, the Democrats are cracking up because eight Democrats 1:23:26.439 --> 1:23:29.280 decided to buck Chuck Schumer and go along with the 1:23:29.280 --> 1:23:32.720 Republicans to open up the government. The far left is 1:23:32.760 --> 1:23:37.480 furious it does eight Senate Democrats, the House Democrats are furious, 1:23:37.560 --> 1:23:42.439 the activists are furious. But the government will reopen. I 1:23:42.439 --> 1:23:44.360 think the House is going to be coming back, and 1:23:45.040 --> 1:23:48.439 you know, they'll finally get around to you are reopening. 1:23:48.040 --> 1:23:50.200 The government, and they're gonna they're. 1:23:50.040 --> 1:23:54.720 Promising a vote on Obamacare subsidies. And remember when they 1:23:54.720 --> 1:23:57.960 sold us Obamacare, they said it was going to be affordable. Yeah, 1:23:58.080 --> 1:24:00.680 it didn't turn out to be affordable bill, So that 1:24:00.760 --> 1:24:04.920 was another lie that they sold us. So here we are. Yeah, 1:24:04.960 --> 1:24:08.560 we're getting back to the government. So that's for the holidays. 1:24:08.600 --> 1:24:11.400 We're not going to have a government shutdown and people 1:24:11.439 --> 1:24:13.840 can get back to their snap benefits and you know 1:24:13.920 --> 1:24:17.559 the air traffic controllers and all the other stuff that 1:24:17.640 --> 1:24:18.519 the government does. 1:24:19.000 --> 1:24:23.000 It's almost like New Orleans is running Washington, d C. 1:24:24.200 --> 1:24:28.000 I'm and now, according to one IPSOS poll, seventy percent 1:24:28.040 --> 1:24:30.759 of the American people believe you don't get the truth 1:24:30.920 --> 1:24:33.880 from the mainstream media. Seventy percent say the media has 1:24:33.920 --> 1:24:38.479 a political ideology rather than factual facts being reported. I 1:24:38.520 --> 1:24:41.800 see that constantly, and I'm thinking that's surprising. The other 1:24:41.880 --> 1:24:44.599 thirty percent, what have you been thinking? And I played 1:24:44.640 --> 1:24:48.640 before the cuts of Barack Hussein Obama saying about Obamacare 1:24:48.960 --> 1:24:52.200 will reduce waste, fraud, and abuse number one. Two, it 1:24:52.240 --> 1:24:55.879 will take four trillion dollars off the deficit. Number three, 1:24:56.040 --> 1:24:59.120 it'll slow the growth of premiums. In fact, you're going 1:24:59.160 --> 1:25:02.040 to save twenty five one hundred dollars off premiums the 1:25:02.040 --> 1:25:03.280 first five or six years. 1:25:03.560 --> 1:25:05.200 And none of these things happened. 1:25:05.479 --> 1:25:08.519 Automatic triggers in the cuts to the federal budget in 1:25:08.600 --> 1:25:12.559 order to make up the shortfall. There's no relationship between 1:25:12.600 --> 1:25:17.360 Obamacare promises and Obamacare reality and because it is way 1:25:17.439 --> 1:25:20.360 upside down. The Democrats say, we have to fund more. 1:25:20.400 --> 1:25:23.040 We got to send more money to a failed system 1:25:23.120 --> 1:25:25.880 to prop it up when we know it failed. Only 1:25:25.960 --> 1:25:28.920 in the Democratic Party can you fund a failure and 1:25:29.000 --> 1:25:31.160 have many people shake their head saying, yeah, we have 1:25:31.240 --> 1:25:32.320 to fund more failure. 1:25:32.640 --> 1:25:33.880 Can you smell what I'm cooking? 1:25:34.880 --> 1:25:37.120 Oh, you're exactly right. And remember they didn't even know 1:25:37.160 --> 1:25:39.400 what they were voting on, because Nancy Pelosi said, we 1:25:39.479 --> 1:25:41.559 have to vote on it first before we understand what's 1:25:41.600 --> 1:25:44.439 in it. So I mean they didn't even know what 1:25:44.439 --> 1:25:47.360 they were voting on. I interviewed on my program Bill 1:25:47.439 --> 1:25:50.000 the one man in Congress, his name is Joseph gal 1:25:50.880 --> 1:25:54.120 from New Orleans, who was a Republican elected from New Orleans. 1:25:54.160 --> 1:25:58.120 He was a post Katrina miracle. We only served one term, 1:25:58.640 --> 1:26:00.400 but he was a very diligent guy. 1:26:00.479 --> 1:26:01.240 He read the. 1:26:01.400 --> 1:26:04.800 Twenty seven hundred and eighteen pages of the Obamacare bill, 1:26:05.240 --> 1:26:07.879 the only member of Congress that knew it backwards and forwards, 1:26:07.880 --> 1:26:09.720 and nobody else really knew what they were voting on. 1:26:09.840 --> 1:26:12.000 Of course, they passed it, and then we got the 1:26:12.080 --> 1:26:14.599 nonsense that we've had. Republicans have had chances to get 1:26:14.680 --> 1:26:17.240 rid of it ever since they John McCain failed us. 1:26:17.280 --> 1:26:19.760 Remember he went to the well of the Senate. 1:26:19.439 --> 1:26:22.000 And put his thumb down and that was it. 1:26:23.800 --> 1:26:26.519 And now we're stuck because it's failed. We have to 1:26:26.560 --> 1:26:26.920 fund it. 1:26:28.600 --> 1:26:31.320 We have to fund it. And it is a disaster. 1:26:31.520 --> 1:26:34.240 It is everything but what they promised, which was affordable. 1:26:34.840 --> 1:26:38.559 And now they're ranning and raving about everything that they've 1:26:38.920 --> 1:26:43.320 forced upon us. And you know, Republicans really should have 1:26:43.360 --> 1:26:46.000 come up with alternatives and gotten rid of this thing 1:26:46.040 --> 1:26:49.200 a long time ago and had, you know, a much 1:26:49.240 --> 1:26:51.960 better program than this, because this is just a disaster 1:26:52.120 --> 1:26:53.839 and it's just going to continue to be a disaster. 1:26:53.880 --> 1:26:57.320 We're just putting a band aid on gaping wounds here 1:26:57.360 --> 1:27:00.479 with Obamacare. Government can't do anything right. They're going to 1:27:00.520 --> 1:27:02.599 find that out in New York City when they run 1:27:02.600 --> 1:27:05.240 the grocery stores Dale. It's not going to be pretty. 1:27:05.760 --> 1:27:09.640 January thirtieth is coming. And I watched this morning in 1:27:09.680 --> 1:27:11.920 one of the talk shows that King Jeffreys talked about 1:27:12.120 --> 1:27:15.519 we're going to replay the same thing January thirtieth. They 1:27:15.520 --> 1:27:18.599 only hit the government open until January thirtieth, and he said, 1:27:18.600 --> 1:27:20.360 at that point, we're going to do it again. So 1:27:20.439 --> 1:27:23.840 the Democrats are going to fire, layoff air traffic controllers, 1:27:23.840 --> 1:27:26.600 the military not say out it's not benefits again in 1:27:26.640 --> 1:27:30.200 the dead winner of January, because after all, it seems 1:27:30.200 --> 1:27:32.800 to be working for them, and which is you know, 1:27:33.360 --> 1:27:36.960 something fails, let's fund it. Let's talk about your column 1:27:37.000 --> 1:27:39.720 on tariffs. Only have a couple of minutes remaining. You 1:27:39.840 --> 1:27:43.360 make the point that tariff revenue for the US dramatically 1:27:43.479 --> 1:27:47.600 rose to two hundred and fifteen billion dollars compared to 1:27:47.640 --> 1:27:51.400 seventy seven billion the previous year. In fact, tariffs are working. 1:27:51.439 --> 1:27:54.799 It did not cause massive inflation, it didn't cause layoffs. 1:27:54.880 --> 1:27:57.559 The media is rooting for failure. It didn't happen. 1:27:57.800 --> 1:28:02.439 Why well, because all these economists are biased, and all 1:28:02.439 --> 1:28:04.320 of them said that it was going to be a disaster, 1:28:04.400 --> 1:28:06.840 and it's not because you know, they were trying to 1:28:06.840 --> 1:28:10.000 scare the American people. And it turns out that this 1:28:10.080 --> 1:28:13.599 has helped us forward peace deals, brought in a lot 1:28:13.640 --> 1:28:16.200 more revenue. It was going to eventually, of course help 1:28:16.360 --> 1:28:20.200 American manufacturing, American jobs. Again, that's the whole reason the 1:28:20.240 --> 1:28:22.679 President wanted to do this, because we were taken advantage 1:28:22.720 --> 1:28:25.040 of by all these countries all over the world. We 1:28:25.080 --> 1:28:28.360 didn't have access to their markets. They had access to 1:28:28.400 --> 1:28:32.439 our markets. Our goods were being charged tremendous tariffs. We 1:28:32.439 --> 1:28:35.360 were letting these goods in here with very minimal tariffs. 1:28:35.760 --> 1:28:38.120 So yeah, we've gone from like seventy seven billion to 1:28:38.720 --> 1:28:42.479 over twodred and fifteen billion. Next year Scott Bessant is 1:28:42.479 --> 1:28:44.879 projecting it'll be five hundred billion. 1:28:45.479 --> 1:28:45.920 And then the. 1:28:45.880 --> 1:28:49.200 President says, all right, let's get some tax rebates, some 1:28:49.280 --> 1:28:52.200 tariff f rebates to the American people two thousand dollars, 1:28:52.240 --> 1:28:56.160 and you know, let's pay down the national debt, which is, 1:28:56.200 --> 1:28:59.599 by the way, bill increasing every two months by a trillion. 1:29:00.160 --> 1:29:03.080 So we're now at thirty eight point one trillion dollar 1:29:03.280 --> 1:29:07.120 national debt. We have an idea to help pay it down. 1:29:07.240 --> 1:29:08.280 I'm all in favor of it. 1:29:08.720 --> 1:29:11.479 You also talk about the inflation rate, which is three 1:29:11.800 --> 1:29:15.800 point zero two percent to the nine percent inflation of 1:29:15.840 --> 1:29:19.599 the Disasters administration. And I had on Victor Davis Hanson 1:29:19.880 --> 1:29:23.719 a few weeks ago. Unemployment is down to four percent. 1:29:24.479 --> 1:29:28.280 We're getting tariff income to walk down the deficit. We 1:29:28.360 --> 1:29:32.040 have inflation at three percent instead of nine percent. We 1:29:32.120 --> 1:29:36.240 have the Southern border is shut down. We have military 1:29:36.360 --> 1:29:39.120 enlistments or way up. People want to join the military, 1:29:39.120 --> 1:29:41.200 they want to join ICE, they want to enforce the 1:29:41.280 --> 1:29:44.200 law right. In fact, all the objective measurements of what 1:29:44.320 --> 1:29:46.840 is everything that should be up is up. Everything that 1:29:46.840 --> 1:29:50.439 should be down is down. However, the media reports lies 1:29:50.520 --> 1:29:55.760 and fabrications because the truth is dangerous to the Democrats. 1:29:55.880 --> 1:30:00.280 And so if you watch the media, you think these 1:30:00.320 --> 1:30:03.679 are the worst at times. Economically they're the best at times. 1:30:03.880 --> 1:30:06.599 But people like my producer Tony Bender, doesn't see it, 1:30:06.600 --> 1:30:09.600 doesn't feel it, because he's told all this garbage, you know, 1:30:09.720 --> 1:30:11.040 garbage in, garbage out. 1:30:11.120 --> 1:30:12.360 The garbage is put in. 1:30:13.000 --> 1:30:15.960 The in the mainstream of news, and so you cough 1:30:16.120 --> 1:30:18.519 back out what you think to be the reality. I 1:30:18.680 --> 1:30:21.640 paid two I paid two dollars and fifty cents for 1:30:21.680 --> 1:30:25.320 a gallon of gas yesterday, two dollars and fifty cents. 1:30:25.920 --> 1:30:28.519 That goes into inflation. So how do we overcome the 1:30:28.560 --> 1:30:31.120 mediaized to tell the truth? What is the real status 1:30:31.120 --> 1:30:33.280 of the American economy? Jeff crue Air, what is it? 1:30:34.200 --> 1:30:36.040 I think he hit the nail on the head. It's 1:30:36.080 --> 1:30:39.360 really good. I mean, we pay to forty eight man 1:30:39.479 --> 1:30:42.479 here I just got a gas this morning. I mean, 1:30:42.479 --> 1:30:45.120 the prices are great, and that's a tax cut for 1:30:45.160 --> 1:30:48.120 the American people when the price of gas is so low. 1:30:48.640 --> 1:30:51.120 And yeah, we're drilling again, so that's another thing that's 1:30:51.160 --> 1:30:54.000 good for the economy. You know, we've unleashed American energy 1:30:54.040 --> 1:30:56.960 once again. You know, the border is secure, so we 1:30:57.000 --> 1:30:59.240 don't have millions of illegals coming here. We're trying to 1:30:59.240 --> 1:31:02.360 deport the krims, which of course the left doesn't want 1:31:02.439 --> 1:31:04.160 us to do, so they want to protect the criminals 1:31:04.160 --> 1:31:07.200 that are here. So all those measures you're right on target. 1:31:07.280 --> 1:31:09.680 I mean, we've got the trade deficit down. You know, 1:31:09.760 --> 1:31:12.479 we're we're doing the right thing as far as uh, 1:31:12.720 --> 1:31:16.000 you know, inflation. Interest rates are finally starting to come down. 1:31:16.520 --> 1:31:19.520 The one problem has been this guy's er own poll hasn't. 1:31:19.240 --> 1:31:20.760 Reduced interest rates like you should. 1:31:20.840 --> 1:31:23.960 So the interest rate level now is still double what 1:31:24.000 --> 1:31:27.160 it was, more than double what it was when Donald Trump. 1:31:26.960 --> 1:31:28.200 Left office the first time. 1:31:28.320 --> 1:31:32.200 So that's what's I think causing the problem with young 1:31:32.320 --> 1:31:35.360 kids being able to buy homes. I mean can't get 1:31:35.360 --> 1:31:37.280 a mortgage. I mean it costs too much. So that's 1:31:37.280 --> 1:31:40.519 why the President's talking about fifty year mortgages and you know, 1:31:40.600 --> 1:31:43.360 pounding on the FED to reduce the you know, the 1:31:43.439 --> 1:31:44.080 interest rates. 1:31:44.200 --> 1:31:45.320 So there's some. 1:31:45.320 --> 1:31:47.400 Things that we need to work on. But compared to 1:31:47.640 --> 1:31:50.720 where Biden left it, I mean, we've made incredible and 1:31:50.840 --> 1:31:53.639 by the way we've solved, I mean, the President's brought 1:31:53.680 --> 1:31:56.760 peace to all these different places around the world. We've 1:31:56.760 --> 1:32:00.200 got peace steals that have happened. So I mean, it 1:32:00.240 --> 1:32:04.720 is immeasurably better than it was in January of this year, and. 1:32:04.680 --> 1:32:06.679 It's just been less than a year. 1:32:06.800 --> 1:32:10.160 So it's outstanding. He should have an eighty percent approval rating. 1:32:10.720 --> 1:32:13.639 I look the other day, Bill, it's incredible. It's only 1:32:13.720 --> 1:32:18.360 forty five percent, and it's it's terrible to think that 1:32:18.400 --> 1:32:20.240 he's not getting the credit that he deserves for what 1:32:20.280 --> 1:32:20.919 he's done. 1:32:21.160 --> 1:32:23.599 Chunk and the American people get all their information from 1:32:23.640 --> 1:32:25.880 the mainstream media, garbage in, garbage out. 1:32:26.240 --> 1:32:27.559 Are you ready for the big question? 1:32:28.840 --> 1:32:29.439 I'm ready. 1:32:30.040 --> 1:32:31.160 We have a communist in New. 1:32:31.160 --> 1:32:34.479 York City, LaToya the destroyers, I guess going to federal 1:32:34.520 --> 1:32:37.400 persons sometime soon. She has a chaperone, when she has 1:32:37.400 --> 1:32:41.960 her bodyguard. Now almost Cincinnati just elected a corrupt, ugly 1:32:42.080 --> 1:32:44.800 mayor with seventy eight percent of the vote instead of 1:32:44.840 --> 1:32:48.920 eighty two percent Brandon Johnson and Chicago is talking about 1:32:49.160 --> 1:32:53.880 having Chicago police have an armed insurrection against ice. We 1:32:53.960 --> 1:32:57.520 have Karen Bass complete incompetent in Los Angeles. San Francisco 1:32:57.840 --> 1:33:01.320 looks like Bangladesh. Thank Godnancy Pelosi. We got to get 1:33:01.400 --> 1:33:03.880 Nancy Pelosi to run the Department of the Treasury. She 1:33:03.960 --> 1:33:06.679 knows more about stocks and Warren Buffett. For God's sakes, 1:33:07.280 --> 1:33:11.439 can we survive if almost every major American city is 1:33:11.479 --> 1:33:12.120 in collapse? 1:33:14.240 --> 1:33:16.400 Well, I mean that's the situation and it has been 1:33:16.479 --> 1:33:18.880 for a while. And what I think is going to 1:33:18.960 --> 1:33:21.040 have to happen is that the people in these cities 1:33:21.040 --> 1:33:24.640 that keep voting in these dangerous idiots are just going 1:33:24.720 --> 1:33:27.639 to have to eventually get with the program and say, hey, 1:33:27.720 --> 1:33:29.759 you know, we can't keep electing these people and expect 1:33:29.800 --> 1:33:33.400 different results. And eventually, I guess the pain is going 1:33:33.479 --> 1:33:34.920 to be so much that they're going to start looking 1:33:34.920 --> 1:33:38.439 at alternatives and not voting these Democrats over and over. 1:33:38.560 --> 1:33:42.920 But thankfully people have started fleeing those areas. Yes, so 1:33:43.000 --> 1:33:45.760 they're going you know, the realtor of the Year is 1:33:45.840 --> 1:33:48.840 Zorn Modonmi in Florida. They just named him twenty twenty 1:33:48.840 --> 1:33:50.400 six Realtor of the Year. Damn Florida. 1:33:50.439 --> 1:33:52.760 I'm he's doing a lot for the pricing in Florida. Well, 1:33:52.800 --> 1:33:55.400 we got Jeff Career. I could spend a all day 1:33:55.439 --> 1:33:57.880 with you. But the good luck wi LaToya the Destroyer, 1:33:58.080 --> 1:34:01.040 We got Apte pure of all you have Latoria destroyers. 1:34:01.080 --> 1:34:05.240 Chicago's got Brandon Johnson, Kim Bass, Mom, Donnie, Jeff Crueer, 1:34:05.320 --> 1:34:06.120 thanks for coming on. 1:34:06.160 --> 1:34:07.080 You're a great American. 1:34:07.080 --> 1:34:08.840 Thank you, Thank you, Bill, Bill. 1:34:08.720 --> 1:34:11.320 Cunningham, the great American. Live with you every Sunday night, 1:34:11.520 --> 1:34:14.720 Billy cunning Him, the great American. Jeff crue Aer makes 1:34:14.760 --> 1:34:17.679 a whole bunch of sense to me about tariffs, et cetera. 1:34:17.760 --> 1:34:19.960 And I know next Sunday night we're gonna have to 1:34:19.960 --> 1:34:22.800 deal again with Jeffrey Epstein because of what the Trump 1:34:22.840 --> 1:34:24.960 shud did about an hour and a half ago, telling 1:34:25.000 --> 1:34:30.040 the Republicans to support the release of Epstein files. Something 1:34:30.080 --> 1:34:33.960 he opposed, something he went after Thomas Massey for voting 1:34:34.040 --> 1:34:38.120 yes and Marjorie Taylor Green for voting yes. Now Trump's 1:34:38.120 --> 1:34:40.880 done a three sixty or one eighty, and now is 1:34:40.920 --> 1:34:44.400 telling Republicans please vote to release the files, which means 1:34:44.400 --> 1:34:47.360 in the Senate, John Thunell have that up in the 1:34:47.360 --> 1:34:50.040 next week or two, release the files. And the Trump's 1:34:50.120 --> 1:34:52.639 just going to sign a law releasing the files. Will 1:34:52.680 --> 1:34:56.040 that play hate those who have Trump derangement syndrome? 1:34:57.040 --> 1:34:57.680 I don't think so. 1:34:57.840 --> 1:35:00.479 They'll come on with something else plus continue with Morris, 1:35:00.600 --> 1:35:03.240 I said, coming up next as Katie Talento, she worked 1:35:03.280 --> 1:35:06.600 in the first Trumpet administration. On the evils of Obamacare 1:35:06.640 --> 1:35:20.879 and more. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday, Bill Cunningham, 1:35:20.920 --> 1:35:24.040 the Great American. Of course, the healthcare crisis in America 1:35:24.320 --> 1:35:27.640 has caused the shutdown of the government now open and 1:35:27.720 --> 1:35:30.519 watching one of the morning talk shows, Keem Jeffers is 1:35:30.560 --> 1:35:33.440 saying they have another bite at the apple in about 1:35:33.479 --> 1:35:37.320 ten weeks. January thirtieth is not that far away, and 1:35:37.360 --> 1:35:40.679 he says there might be another government shutdown happening, which 1:35:40.720 --> 1:35:44.040 is utterly ridiculous. Putting money into a failed system, a 1:35:44.080 --> 1:35:47.720 failed government program, doubling down on stupid is often what 1:35:47.840 --> 1:35:51.200 Democrats and what many in Washington do. Some are fighting 1:35:51.200 --> 1:35:55.160 against it. Katie Talento is the executive director of Alliance 1:35:55.160 --> 1:35:58.760 of Healthcare sharing. And first of all, Katie Talento, tell 1:35:58.840 --> 1:36:02.040 us you give me generally in the American people the 1:36:02.080 --> 1:36:05.479 status of health care in America today. Volumes have been 1:36:05.479 --> 1:36:08.680 written on that topic. But about out on ninety three 1:36:08.720 --> 1:36:11.439 percent of us get either our health insurance from Medicare, 1:36:11.560 --> 1:36:15.439 Medicaid from private plans through employers or veterans or whatever. 1:36:15.439 --> 1:36:18.760 It might be about seven percent through the Obamacare exchanges, 1:36:18.800 --> 1:36:21.679 which have failed miserably. So since you're in the industry, 1:36:21.680 --> 1:36:24.960 what is happening to us healthcare system in America in 1:36:25.000 --> 1:36:26.840 general and the response to it by. 1:36:26.760 --> 1:36:31.120 Government, Well, it's not a good situation, Bill, Thanks for 1:36:31.160 --> 1:36:35.639 having me. Yeah, I think the affordability crisis is hitting everybody, 1:36:35.800 --> 1:36:38.439 and so you know, premiums are up double digits this 1:36:38.520 --> 1:36:41.400 year for everyone. Even federal employee has got a twelve 1:36:41.400 --> 1:36:45.200 percent rate hike, so you know, they get no love 1:36:45.280 --> 1:36:47.400 for having been put out of work for you know, 1:36:47.400 --> 1:36:50.639 twenty seven weeks, but they have to now pay more 1:36:50.640 --> 1:36:53.360 for their insurance too, so at least they're suffering with 1:36:53.400 --> 1:36:56.200 the rest of us. I do think that this is 1:36:56.200 --> 1:37:00.639 going to become a campaign issue unfortunately, and Republics are 1:37:00.800 --> 1:37:03.880 usually in trouble when healthcare becomes a campaign issue. You know, 1:37:04.680 --> 1:37:06.479 I was a veteran of the White House when we 1:37:06.479 --> 1:37:08.439 were doing repeal and replaced back in the day, and 1:37:08.479 --> 1:37:10.599 I can tell you it's going to take longer than 1:37:10.680 --> 1:37:13.160 you know, five weeks for us to negotiate some sort 1:37:13.160 --> 1:37:16.120 of master plan here. So I think that if the 1:37:16.120 --> 1:37:18.840 Democrats want to have another shutdown, they will do that 1:37:18.880 --> 1:37:21.960 at their political peril. But you know, that may not 1:37:22.000 --> 1:37:23.760 be the best thing for the American people at this point. 1:37:24.560 --> 1:37:25.320 What happened. 1:37:25.760 --> 1:37:28.559 I've done many topics the last few days weeks on 1:37:28.880 --> 1:37:32.479 the failure of Obamacare, in which is government subsidizing and 1:37:32.560 --> 1:37:35.040 billions of dollars that might be forty to fifty billion 1:37:35.080 --> 1:37:35.360 a year. 1:37:35.400 --> 1:37:36.600 Maybe you have the number. 1:37:36.600 --> 1:37:40.960 That Washington sends directly to insurance companies under a promise 1:37:41.040 --> 1:37:45.200 to hold down premiums and to the to the seven 1:37:45.680 --> 1:37:50.519 twenty three million people on Obamacare. Why did Obamacare fail? 1:37:52.360 --> 1:37:55.160 So the promise to hold down premiums has not really 1:37:55.320 --> 1:37:58.880 been tested. Obviously, the premiums have skyrocketed. They've more than 1:37:58.880 --> 1:37:59.799 tripled since. 1:37:59.640 --> 1:38:02.120 Twenty when the bill was first enacted. 1:38:02.439 --> 1:38:07.720 However, affordability is sort of addressed by Obamacare because they 1:38:07.760 --> 1:38:11.000 just subsidize your overpriced premiums. And so the vast majority 1:38:11.000 --> 1:38:13.640 of people who are buying their plans on the Obamacare 1:38:13.680 --> 1:38:17.400 exchanges are getting premium subsidies, so their premiums are either 1:38:17.479 --> 1:38:20.679 free or they are largely subsidized. And that is truly 1:38:20.840 --> 1:38:23.439 the only way that you can keep anyone who is 1:38:23.520 --> 1:38:27.240 younger or healthier, or who is not sort of already sick, 1:38:27.880 --> 1:38:31.400 from fleeing this market where it's so unaffordable that they 1:38:31.439 --> 1:38:33.519 don't see the value of it. But they need to 1:38:33.520 --> 1:38:36.040 have all these younger healthy people in the insurance pool, 1:38:36.280 --> 1:38:39.040 or the insurers do, or else it'll go into what 1:38:39.080 --> 1:38:42.519 we call in the insurance business the death spiral, where 1:38:42.520 --> 1:38:46.240 it's just sicker and older and sicker and older people 1:38:46.320 --> 1:38:48.760 every year, and then the premiums go up, and then 1:38:49.280 --> 1:38:51.680 a few are younger healthy people leave because they can't 1:38:51.680 --> 1:38:53.479 afford it anymore, and then it's older and sicker, and 1:38:53.520 --> 1:38:55.559 so this get you get into the spiral, and that's 1:38:56.080 --> 1:38:56.479 that's the. 1:38:56.520 --> 1:38:59.960 Death of an insurance product. So they have to force 1:39:00.040 --> 1:39:03.599 people to stay in the pool, and that's why it's failing. 1:39:04.240 --> 1:39:07.280 It was never a good value for young healthy people 1:39:08.280 --> 1:39:12.240 when you're requiring these policies to cover everything from abortion 1:39:12.320 --> 1:39:17.400 and trans surgeries to maternity writers for men, and you know, 1:39:17.479 --> 1:39:21.000 preventive cap smears for men. You know, like this, this 1:39:21.040 --> 1:39:23.720 is too much. It's too much insurance coverage for what 1:39:23.760 --> 1:39:26.800 most people need, and it's not enough insurance coverage for 1:39:26.840 --> 1:39:29.320 the people who do need it because the deductibles. 1:39:28.800 --> 1:39:30.880 Are so high they can't even afford to use their 1:39:30.880 --> 1:39:32.840 plan when they when they do need it. So it's 1:39:32.880 --> 1:39:33.960 an absolute failure. 1:39:34.960 --> 1:39:37.840 I do think that there are promising alternatives out there, 1:39:38.040 --> 1:39:42.080 like health care sharing ministries, like health savings accounts, like 1:39:42.120 --> 1:39:44.919 direct primary Care, which is sort of a Netflix subscription 1:39:45.160 --> 1:39:49.360 for unlimited primary care, and people are fleeing to these 1:39:49.479 --> 1:39:52.960 better alternatives that feel more human and feel more rational. 1:39:52.800 --> 1:39:53.599 Meeting their needs. 1:39:53.880 --> 1:39:56.799 Funding of failure is what Washington does, which is why 1:39:57.000 --> 1:40:00.240 Democrats want Obamacare to be funded. I spoke to twenty 1:40:00.280 --> 1:40:02.240 eight year old who called in a couple a week 1:40:02.320 --> 1:40:04.640 or two ago, and this guy says, look, I was 1:40:04.720 --> 1:40:07.160 in Obamacare for like two years. I got out because 1:40:07.360 --> 1:40:09.640 I never I never used it, I never went to 1:40:09.680 --> 1:40:12.639 the er, I never I had a primary care physician, 1:40:12.680 --> 1:40:14.559 but I didn't feel a need to go. It was 1:40:14.600 --> 1:40:16.840 costing me seven hundred dollars a month, and I'm thinking, 1:40:16.840 --> 1:40:17.240 why am. 1:40:17.160 --> 1:40:17.560 I doing it? 1:40:17.600 --> 1:40:19.719 I got rid of it. Plus, he said to me, Look, 1:40:19.880 --> 1:40:22.840 isn't it true? He called me Uncle Bill. Isn't it true, 1:40:22.880 --> 1:40:25.080 Uncle Bill, that if I have something bad happens to me, 1:40:25.400 --> 1:40:28.240 I can go to the er anyway and get care 1:40:28.280 --> 1:40:30.960 at the er, and if I can't pay for it, 1:40:31.000 --> 1:40:33.400 I can't pay for it. So why have insurance if 1:40:33.400 --> 1:40:35.680 I get the product anyway for nothing? How do you 1:40:35.720 --> 1:40:37.040 respond to him? 1:40:37.840 --> 1:40:41.160 He's exactly right, He's making completely rational choices. 1:40:41.479 --> 1:40:44.080 You can go to the er and they are required 1:40:44.160 --> 1:40:46.559 to treat you regardless of your coverage. Now, you might 1:40:46.680 --> 1:40:49.360 end up with a really horrific build being said to you, 1:40:49.360 --> 1:40:51.240 you might end up in collections over it, but at 1:40:51.320 --> 1:40:53.519 least you will be treated in that moment if you're 1:40:53.520 --> 1:40:56.840 having a life threatening issue. I totally sympathize with your 1:40:56.880 --> 1:41:00.400 caller because he's the exact reason why Obama Care. 1:41:00.320 --> 1:41:02.200 Is failing young healthy people. 1:41:02.640 --> 1:41:06.320 They just see no value in this product, so why 1:41:06.360 --> 1:41:10.520 would they stay? And so you're left with only healthy, unhealthy, 1:41:10.560 --> 1:41:14.000 expensive people, driving up premiums so that it happens even 1:41:14.040 --> 1:41:17.360 worse next year that's why this whole project has failed, 1:41:17.800 --> 1:41:19.840 and that's why we've got to seek alternatives. 1:41:19.840 --> 1:41:22.400 I was so encouraged by President. 1:41:22.040 --> 1:41:26.200 Trump tweeting, or rather truthing out in the past couple 1:41:26.240 --> 1:41:30.280 of weeks about let's just stop putting money in insurers pocket. 1:41:30.320 --> 1:41:32.520 And let's actually put it in health saving. 1:41:32.280 --> 1:41:34.880 Accounts for people so they can go buy what they want. 1:41:35.280 --> 1:41:38.320 Great idea, but a King Jeffries and the Democrats don't 1:41:38.320 --> 1:41:40.639 want any part of that because it puts the person 1:41:40.680 --> 1:41:43.680 in charge, not big time health insurers who pay them 1:41:43.720 --> 1:41:46.120 huge amounts of money and campaign. I think the average 1:41:46.160 --> 1:41:50.000 America done understand that about how much money every year 1:41:50.439 --> 1:41:54.120 goes from the US Treasury to big time health insurers 1:41:54.560 --> 1:41:58.000 in order to knock down the premiums of individuals who 1:41:58.280 --> 1:42:01.200 may not use the product at all. How much money 1:42:01.280 --> 1:42:04.559 is the taxpayer funding healthcare insurance companies? 1:42:04.560 --> 1:42:06.120 How much money we're talking about about. 1:42:07.320 --> 1:42:11.000 It's about a trillion dollars. I promised with it with 1:42:11.320 --> 1:42:11.919 a trillion. 1:42:12.160 --> 1:42:15.080 With a team of John Tufton's researchers a few years ago, 1:42:15.200 --> 1:42:19.840 we estimated that almost half forty seven percent. But the 1:42:20.000 --> 1:42:23.519 entire United States budget goes towards some form of health care. 1:42:25.720 --> 1:42:29.160 Well, if you're United Healthcare, are you in the business 1:42:29.200 --> 1:42:32.000 having taken all this money from the government under Obamacare. 1:42:32.320 --> 1:42:35.760 Are you in the business and making sure that you're insured, 1:42:36.280 --> 1:42:38.840 have great healthcare at low cost, or are you in 1:42:38.880 --> 1:42:40.559 the business of making money? 1:42:42.320 --> 1:42:44.800 Well, that's exactly right. You know, these giant. 1:42:44.720 --> 1:42:47.679 Companies we call them the Bukah's Blue Cross United Signa 1:42:47.720 --> 1:42:51.400 at ninety man a Buka and these these giant companies, 1:42:51.720 --> 1:42:53.720 nobody had ever heard of some of them, you know, 1:42:53.920 --> 1:42:56.599 years ago, and now they're on the Fortune fifty list. 1:42:56.680 --> 1:43:01.680 Their stockholders are loving it, living it up, and their 1:43:01.840 --> 1:43:03.080 CEOs are living off. 1:43:03.840 --> 1:43:04.760 They're billionaires. 1:43:05.120 --> 1:43:07.800 And you know, meanwhile, United Healthcare is denying a third 1:43:07.840 --> 1:43:10.519 of every claim that comes to them. And most people 1:43:10.720 --> 1:43:12.080 think of their insurer like. 1:43:12.120 --> 1:43:13.639 The cable company. They hate them. 1:43:13.880 --> 1:43:16.479 And so this is a product that nobody really wants 1:43:16.479 --> 1:43:17.799 to pay for because they don't. 1:43:17.640 --> 1:43:18.960 See the value in it. 1:43:19.200 --> 1:43:22.559 And when they really need it, when they really need it, 1:43:22.560 --> 1:43:25.120 it's an absolute bureaucratic night there to. 1:43:25.280 --> 1:43:29.000 Use, aren't the insurance companies because they're a for profit 1:43:29.080 --> 1:43:33.560 business in the business of denying claims and having high deductibilities. 1:43:33.600 --> 1:43:36.000 And that's true because I listened to a keem Jeffries. 1:43:36.120 --> 1:43:39.719 If Republicans don't agree to this want you want people 1:43:39.720 --> 1:43:41.439 to be sick and die in hospitals, You don't want 1:43:41.439 --> 1:43:44.880 people to get medical care. In reality, the Democrats get 1:43:44.960 --> 1:43:49.599 millions of dollars in campaign donations from insurance companies, and 1:43:49.640 --> 1:43:52.320 aren't they in the business of making money. 1:43:52.200 --> 1:43:54.240 And not in the business of providing healthcare? 1:43:55.760 --> 1:43:58.599 Well, the secret of the dirty little secret of healthcare 1:43:58.720 --> 1:44:03.000 is that the insurer are interested in high prices from hospitals, 1:44:03.080 --> 1:44:05.960 and hospitals are interested in lots of sick people. So 1:44:06.080 --> 1:44:08.760 when you get paid when people are sick and high 1:44:08.800 --> 1:44:11.000 price stuff is done to them, you're going to get 1:44:11.120 --> 1:44:13.120 more sickness and higher price stuff. 1:44:13.360 --> 1:44:15.320 And that's what we're seeing over and over again. 1:44:15.880 --> 1:44:19.200 You also say in this column you believe that the 1:44:19.240 --> 1:44:23.080 recent US government shutdown that ended after forty three days 1:44:23.439 --> 1:44:28.519 result of from protecting lucrative political donations from big healthcare 1:44:28.600 --> 1:44:31.760 insurance and the media never asked a King Jeffries or 1:44:31.760 --> 1:44:35.920 Democrats the question, how come we're funding the BUKA, the 1:44:36.040 --> 1:44:39.639 large Blue Cross, Blue Shield and United Healthcare and signa 1:44:39.840 --> 1:44:43.160 we're funding them and they're in the business of screwing 1:44:43.160 --> 1:44:44.240 the policy holders. 1:44:44.400 --> 1:44:47.520 Why isn't that brought up by the media. 1:44:47.680 --> 1:44:50.640 Well, you know, to be fair to these politicians. And 1:44:50.720 --> 1:44:53.639 let me tell you, the healthcare swamp funds all parties 1:44:53.880 --> 1:44:55.920 and every single one of them. You know, the farm 1:44:56.080 --> 1:44:59.080 industry alone has four or five lobbyists for every. 1:44:58.840 --> 1:45:02.200 Member of Congress. So nobody is innocent here in DC. 1:45:02.560 --> 1:45:04.880 But I will tell you that, you know these people, 1:45:05.400 --> 1:45:08.120 they are in the business of making money and profiting 1:45:08.160 --> 1:45:09.760 off of our sickness. 1:45:09.800 --> 1:45:11.839 But the American people are. 1:45:11.680 --> 1:45:16.240 Also absolutely committed to having insurance at any cost. 1:45:16.479 --> 1:45:18.559 I mean, we have seen that. 1:45:19.120 --> 1:45:22.559 It's unfortunately, if you try to take i mean the 1:45:22.600 --> 1:45:25.639 battle scars from the repeal and replaced effort in twenty seventeen, 1:45:25.880 --> 1:45:29.479 if you try to take a single dollar away from 1:45:30.320 --> 1:45:34.040 insurance subsidies for even a small percentage of of the 1:45:34.040 --> 1:45:37.559 American people, you will lose the next election. So I 1:45:37.600 --> 1:45:40.000 think the Republicans take this issue on at their peril. 1:45:40.160 --> 1:45:42.559 The Democrats take this issue on at their peril. It's 1:45:42.680 --> 1:45:44.519 very perils and it's going to make everybody a little 1:45:44.520 --> 1:45:44.920 bit scared. 1:45:44.960 --> 1:45:47.040 So it'll be very interesting to see what happens over the. 1:45:46.960 --> 1:45:47.559 Next few weeks. 1:45:47.600 --> 1:45:50.759 You seem to say almost Katie Talento of the Alliance 1:45:50.760 --> 1:45:54.639 for a Health Care Sharing it's almost a soluble problem 1:45:54.680 --> 1:45:58.240 that Democrats are incentivized to keep the issue front and center. 1:45:58.320 --> 1:46:01.400 By the way, Obamacare little or nothing to do with 1:46:01.439 --> 1:46:04.360 the shutdown, because the shutdown was shutting down the whole government. 1:46:04.520 --> 1:46:06.760 So the Democrats said, look, we're not going to pay 1:46:06.800 --> 1:46:09.160 the soldiers, We're going to make TSC agents sleep in 1:46:09.200 --> 1:46:12.640 their cars, We're going to shut down Snap, We're going 1:46:12.680 --> 1:46:16.240 to shut down the entire government on this unrelated issue 1:46:16.400 --> 1:46:19.320 of giving money to insurance companies out of the public treasury. 1:46:19.680 --> 1:46:22.400 And I think the American people bought it because politically, 1:46:22.439 --> 1:46:26.360 most of the polls now indicate this weekend that Republicans 1:46:26.360 --> 1:46:29.439 are blamed for the shutdown and not Democrats. So when 1:46:29.479 --> 1:46:32.680 Republicans voted to open the government and Democrats voted to 1:46:32.680 --> 1:46:36.000 close the government, the American people believe that the Republicans 1:46:36.080 --> 1:46:38.960 closed the government and the Democrats wanted to open the government, 1:46:39.160 --> 1:46:41.920 when in reality, the Republicans wanted to open the government 1:46:42.000 --> 1:46:44.240 and the Democrats wanted to close the government. You know 1:46:44.280 --> 1:46:47.920 what I'm saying. Democratically, the Democratic Party won. 1:46:49.920 --> 1:46:50.040 No. 1:46:50.200 --> 1:46:51.000 I mean, they're in. 1:46:50.960 --> 1:46:53.679 A civil war right now over. You know, they're eight 1:46:53.880 --> 1:46:56.040 traders who actually. 1:46:55.720 --> 1:46:56.599 Opened the governments. 1:46:56.720 --> 1:46:59.280 But those eight traders, the Democrats who voted with the 1:46:59.320 --> 1:47:00.680 Republicans to reopen. 1:47:00.360 --> 1:47:02.400 The government government, they're the ones in. 1:47:02.360 --> 1:47:05.439 The swing states, so they kind of know that this 1:47:05.520 --> 1:47:08.599 is not actually a good plan to just shut down 1:47:08.640 --> 1:47:11.519 not do their jobs for months on end. So I 1:47:11.560 --> 1:47:14.479 think Democrats that actually are in any kind of political peril, 1:47:14.840 --> 1:47:18.880 we're thanking these eight behind the back, behind the scenes 1:47:19.160 --> 1:47:19.680 all right now. 1:47:19.760 --> 1:47:23.720 And lastly, for those of us who receive healthcare from 1:47:23.760 --> 1:47:27.160 our employer, I work for a large company, and it 1:47:27.200 --> 1:47:30.120 takes a degree in Chinese calculus to figure out all 1:47:30.120 --> 1:47:33.479 the plans and the deductibilities, and do you want this rider? 1:47:33.560 --> 1:47:35.639 Do you want that rider? Do you want prescriptive care? 1:47:35.680 --> 1:47:37.599 Do you want not wanted? Do you want maternity care? 1:47:37.640 --> 1:47:40.200 I don't need that very much. Do I need transgender care? 1:47:40.200 --> 1:47:42.559 Which I don't think, God hope I never need that. 1:47:42.760 --> 1:47:44.920 And so I leave with my wife to decide what 1:47:44.920 --> 1:47:48.160 do we do. And according to polling, the majority of 1:47:48.360 --> 1:47:52.920 employee or employee based plans are popular with employees, which 1:47:53.000 --> 1:47:55.519 is about one hundred and fifty some million people. But 1:47:55.680 --> 1:47:58.400 still the cost keeps going up. If you're on Medicare 1:47:58.479 --> 1:48:01.400 Medicaid generally you pay little or nothing. Anyway, you don't 1:48:01.400 --> 1:48:03.760 have a dog in the fight. So can you tell 1:48:03.800 --> 1:48:07.200 me get out your crystal ball, Katie Talento? How does 1:48:07.240 --> 1:48:10.519 this issue resolve itself without a complete collapse of our 1:48:10.560 --> 1:48:11.280 medical system? 1:48:11.640 --> 1:48:12.599 How do we resolve it? 1:48:14.439 --> 1:48:17.120 Well, I don't know that we're going to resolve that. Again, 1:48:17.360 --> 1:48:18.320 I'm very nervous. 1:48:18.479 --> 1:48:21.200 I'm very nervous that we're going to end up with 1:48:21.280 --> 1:48:25.080 single payer at some point because it is not a 1:48:25.080 --> 1:48:28.360 sustainable trajectory. And you're exactly right that those who are 1:48:28.360 --> 1:48:32.040 bearing the largest cost of this are wage earners at 1:48:32.120 --> 1:48:35.479 big employers who are actually paying for most healthcare in 1:48:35.520 --> 1:48:38.400 this country. You're right half those country is insured on 1:48:38.560 --> 1:48:41.360 a job. And those companies, you know, they have some 1:48:41.520 --> 1:48:44.559 other core mission that's not running a health plan, but 1:48:44.880 --> 1:48:47.599 they're now in the health insurance business and that business 1:48:47.720 --> 1:48:51.439 is absolutely spiraling. And so it's a huge crisis for 1:48:51.600 --> 1:48:54.920 every company. And so if we don't get this under control, 1:48:55.240 --> 1:48:58.000 I fear very much it will be the business community 1:48:58.000 --> 1:49:00.960 that pressures Congress to have a come flee government takeover 1:49:01.040 --> 1:49:01.559 of healthcare. 1:49:01.760 --> 1:49:05.920 Lastly, explain single payer. I have a pretty good grasp 1:49:05.920 --> 1:49:09.120 of what it is that everyone under medicare. Explain to 1:49:09.160 --> 1:49:13.040 the average Americans what is single payer, how would it work, 1:49:13.200 --> 1:49:14.519 and why is it a bad idea? 1:49:16.200 --> 1:49:18.360 Yeah, so, single payer is what every other country in 1:49:18.400 --> 1:49:21.160 the world, literally every other country in the world, has 1:49:21.200 --> 1:49:24.839 decided to do about healthcare, where the government actually pays 1:49:25.000 --> 1:49:26.719 for healthcare, and they do it in different ways. 1:49:26.760 --> 1:49:28.240 In some countries like Israel. 1:49:28.040 --> 1:49:32.000 And Germany, they basically do it like an Obamacare on steroids, 1:49:32.000 --> 1:49:35.240 where it's all filter through insurance companies which are just 1:49:35.360 --> 1:49:37.160 agents of the state. But at least you pick an 1:49:37.160 --> 1:49:42.400 insurance plan like Medicare Advantage for instance. But other countries 1:49:42.479 --> 1:49:45.920 like the UK or like Canada, you know, they just. 1:49:45.880 --> 1:49:46.479 Have the government. 1:49:46.520 --> 1:49:48.439 You just walk into the government clinic and the government 1:49:48.439 --> 1:49:51.759 hospital and there are no insurance companies. And the reason 1:49:51.800 --> 1:49:54.160 why this is a problem, and I mean again like 1:49:54.200 --> 1:49:57.720 there are trade offs, right for some services like primary care, 1:49:57.760 --> 1:50:01.240 it's a much better experience and it's more sane in 1:50:01.280 --> 1:50:05.040 these countries where you have easy and free and unlimited 1:50:05.080 --> 1:50:08.920 access to primary care and preventive care. But what happens 1:50:08.960 --> 1:50:11.320 in these situations is when it comes times that you 1:50:11.360 --> 1:50:15.320 need specialty care, there is rationing and long lines, and 1:50:15.360 --> 1:50:17.400 you don't get the best technology, and you don't get 1:50:17.400 --> 1:50:21.439 the timely treatment, and cancer patients are waiting, and people 1:50:21.479 --> 1:50:24.280 with you know who need knee replacements are waiting for years. 1:50:24.400 --> 1:50:26.120 There are people who die on the wait list for 1:50:26.160 --> 1:50:30.080 their knee replacement. So it's just it's not a good situation, 1:50:30.160 --> 1:50:33.479 and America has chosen a different path. I hope that 1:50:33.560 --> 1:50:35.880 we figure a way out of this. There are some 1:50:35.960 --> 1:50:38.879 innovative and creative ideas out there, like health care sharing ministries, 1:50:39.160 --> 1:50:42.040 like health savings accounts for everyone. I think that might 1:50:42.160 --> 1:50:46.040 help as we As you know, President Trump actually implemented 1:50:46.080 --> 1:50:49.720 when I was there, price Transparency initiative, forcing hospitals and 1:50:49.800 --> 1:50:53.839 insures to post their secret prices publicly in an effort 1:50:53.880 --> 1:50:56.200 to try to create a health care market. What we 1:50:56.280 --> 1:50:58.720 have right now is either free nor market in healthcare. 1:50:58.840 --> 1:51:02.360 So to the extent so we can force an actual 1:51:02.479 --> 1:51:05.080 christ competition in health care, we might just be able 1:51:05.120 --> 1:51:06.760 to pull this thing off, but it's going to take 1:51:06.800 --> 1:51:07.599 a miracle from God. 1:51:08.520 --> 1:51:08.960 It will. 1:51:09.240 --> 1:51:13.160 Katie Talento, executive director of Alliance of health Care Sharing. 1:51:13.240 --> 1:51:16.040 You've laid it out and I fear. 1:51:15.880 --> 1:51:19.160 This issue is too easy to demagogue, which means sure 1:51:19.120 --> 1:51:21.400 I had it chored within ten years of Medicare for 1:51:21.479 --> 1:51:25.679 All system in which you will ration healthcare, and it's 1:51:25.720 --> 1:51:29.479 gonna be similar to Canada. And most of my Canadian 1:51:29.520 --> 1:51:33.760 friends get their medical services of any exceptional quality or 1:51:33.840 --> 1:51:36.679 quantity from the United States. They don't stick in Canada 1:51:36.720 --> 1:51:39.120 because to get a knee replacement or they have cancer 1:51:39.160 --> 1:51:42.080 treatment is taking months. You'll die on the list before 1:51:42.120 --> 1:51:44.919 it's replaced. And if someone needs a knee replacement in America, 1:51:45.120 --> 1:51:48.960 you get it a week from Tuesday. Katie Talento, you're 1:51:49.000 --> 1:51:51.400 a great American. Laid out the problems once again. Thank 1:51:51.400 --> 1:51:53.799 you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Katie, 1:51:53.800 --> 1:51:55.439 you're a great American. Thank you very much. 1:51:56.560 --> 1:51:57.839 Thank you, Bill, you too. 1:51:57.760 --> 1:51:59.720 God bless you. Let's continue with more. There you go. 1:52:00.120 --> 1:52:03.960 Bill Cunningham, the Great American, live with you every Sunday night. Hi, 1:52:04.000 --> 1:52:07.360 Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Thanks for listening tonight. It's 1:52:07.360 --> 1:52:10.839 been adventurous. About a forty five minutes or an hour ago, 1:52:11.400 --> 1:52:16.240 the President on Truth Social said, House Republicans on Tuesday, 1:52:16.760 --> 1:52:20.040 release the files, the Epstein files. 1:52:19.840 --> 1:52:20.200 That's what. 1:52:20.800 --> 1:52:22.560 That's what the Trumpster said about an hour and a 1:52:22.560 --> 1:52:25.519 half ago. So everything has happened up to this point. 1:52:25.760 --> 1:52:29.479 Going after Taylor Green or Trader Green, as the Trumpster says, 1:52:29.680 --> 1:52:32.439 or Thomas Massey of Northern Kentucky and all the others 1:52:32.640 --> 1:52:36.120 who opposed it, put that to decide, no harm, no foul, 1:52:36.240 --> 1:52:40.920 don't worry about it. So I would assume now sometime 1:52:41.720 --> 1:52:45.280 shortly after Tuesday or Wednesday, Senator John Thune's going to 1:52:45.280 --> 1:52:48.240 put some resolution on the floor of the Senate which 1:52:48.280 --> 1:52:52.760 is going to pass. Overwhelmingly. I said overwhelmingly it's going 1:52:52.840 --> 1:52:56.280 to pass. And that means that we're going to have 1:52:56.320 --> 1:52:59.760 the Epstein files, everything within the control of the executive branch, 1:52:59.760 --> 1:53:01.679 ago government or the estate. 1:53:02.240 --> 1:53:04.080 The only remaining. 1:53:03.680 --> 1:53:06.920 Of course, would be the would be the grand jury 1:53:06.960 --> 1:53:10.559 testimony that the federal judiciary controls and not Donald Trump. 1:53:11.360 --> 1:53:13.760 Let's get it out, whatever it is it is. And 1:53:13.840 --> 1:53:16.799 if some men, or I guess some the victims should 1:53:16.800 --> 1:53:19.000 be able to say, don't put my name out there. 1:53:19.240 --> 1:53:21.719 Many the victims are saying, put my name out there. 1:53:22.000 --> 1:53:24.840 And the victims of these sexual assaults should have that 1:53:24.960 --> 1:53:28.799 decision on their own, made by them or by their lawyers. 1:53:29.280 --> 1:53:31.880 What an eventful night, Thanks for listening. Bill Cunningham, the 1:53:31.880 --> 1:53:35.439 great American with you and all great Americans every Sunday night.