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Speaker 4: the left wing bias of the mainstream media. So thank

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Speaker 4: you for listening. I can't say that enough. Thank you

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Speaker 4: for making this life of mine a whole lot better

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Speaker 4: than otherwise would be. Privately, things are great, have Thanksgiving

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Speaker 4: planned and I have about twenty five people over to

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Speaker 4: have all the women come about two o'clock or three

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Speaker 4: know women work hard to prepare Thanksgiving dinner, hopefully by

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Speaker 4: of the cunning clan. And you know, without women, I

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Speaker 4: was born of woman, I was raised by women, I

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Speaker 4: But I tend to think that women do about ninety

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Speaker 4: less than savage, and for making my life so good.

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Speaker 4: Whenever I reflect upon I watched this one series. I

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Speaker 4: then Ted Copple does something right. On CBS Morning News,

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Speaker 4: he had a segment about how hard it is to

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Speaker 4: Three women in the Atlanta area. One had eight children.

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Speaker 4: One might ask where are the fathers? And at some

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Speaker 4: won't be coming from China. The southern borders largely is functional,

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Speaker 4: us on. And so when the media can't cover the

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Speaker 4: in fact, she was convicted and he was convicted and

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Speaker 4: many questions about why is it being covered? In twenty

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Speaker 4: It was well known, it was out there, and they

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Speaker 4: there's if there's inculplatory information about Donald Trump in those

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Speaker 4: their names are President Epstein's survivors, et cetera. They're brave

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Speaker 4: women in their thirties, forties, and fifties, and many times.

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Speaker 4: These events started as early as nineteen ninety six with

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Speaker 4: So she's approximately fifty years old, I would think, and

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Speaker 4: So I want to get your feeling on this. What

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Speaker 4: is behind this? Why is this happening now? Tuesday? The

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Speaker 4: rest of this week, the media is going to be

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Speaker 4: going nuts, And every time anyone brings it up. I

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Speaker 4: want to hear victims say who raped them? Who committed

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Speaker 4: sexual assaults on them? If you were trafficked to someone,

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Speaker 4: give me the name of the man who sexually abused you.

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Speaker 4: Who is that person, and then it's able to be investigated.

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Speaker 4: The only name has come up so far as Prince Andrew.

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Speaker 4: He's been defrocked and the Crown paid twelve million dollars

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Speaker 4: to Virginia Duffrey, And certainly I believe that's consciousness of guilt.

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Speaker 5: That's one.

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Speaker 4: Are there any anyone else? Raise your hand? The billionaires,

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Speaker 4: the bankers, the stockbrokers, the lawyers, the politicians, who are

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Speaker 4: they all this time? I'm waiting to hear names who

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Speaker 4: did this?

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Speaker 5: Are you with me?

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Speaker 4: Or are you against me? Let's go to the calls

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Speaker 4: cline becomes available, which it never does eight six six

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Speaker 4: six four seven seven three three seven. Sadly, I've been

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Speaker 4: reluctant to deal with this because I know what the

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Speaker 4: Democrats are doing, a classic smear tactic to blame Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump for the behavior of Jeffrey Epstein or Julane Maxwell,

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Speaker 4: when in fact, uh he kicked him out of his

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Speaker 4: social circle sometime in like twenty oh seven, twenty oh eight.

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Speaker 4: He was he pled guilty in twenty oh eight, and

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Speaker 4: when he got out and out of Miami and came

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Speaker 4: back to New York, I wouldn't note that George Stephanopolis

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Speaker 4: also called George Slappinopolis and Katie Corek was wind dined

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Speaker 4: in pocket Line by Jeffrey Epstein after they knew or

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Speaker 4: should have known, he was a pervert. So Katie Corek,

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Speaker 4: according to media accounts, and George Slappinopolis was wind and

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Speaker 4: dined in the Epstein mansion after he got out of

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Speaker 4: Miami Dade and went back to New York let's go

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Speaker 4: to the calls if Marian Wisconsin and many others, and

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Speaker 4: now what's behind it? Do you believe any of it?

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Speaker 4: For the next hour, so I want to deal with it.

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Speaker 4: Eight six six six four seven seven three three seven

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Speaker 4: Mary in Wisconsin, and then Lucy, Mary in Wisconsin, Welcome

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Speaker 4: to the Bill Cunningham Show, and give me a full report.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Billy, I am reading Whitney Webb's One Nation Under

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Speaker 6: Blackmail and would that ever open your eyes to schools

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Speaker 6: all the way back to the nineteen twenties.

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Speaker 5: Nineteen twenties been one hundred years.

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Speaker 7: Crupt, crupt, and.

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Speaker 6: It could really take downs many.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for your call, Lucy, and Arizona the home

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Speaker 4: of the Wildcats and the sun Devils. Lucy, Welcome to

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Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham Show. Lucy, what do you think?

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Speaker 7: I think that these were not choir girls. These were

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Speaker 7: girls that were not held against their will to do

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Speaker 7: anything they hadn't been doing with the captain of the

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Speaker 7: football team in the backseat of a car on Friday night.

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Speaker 7: If anybody is at fault, it was these girls' parents.

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Speaker 7: How could you let your child come home with a

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Speaker 7: lot of money not know where they've been for hours

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Speaker 7: or get for how at weeks, however long. This is

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Speaker 7: almost like another Cabanaugh where all these people got together.

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Speaker 7: I don't doubt that one young girl told another girl, Oh,

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Speaker 7: we're gonna get money to go here and be a massage.

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Speaker 7: I don't doubt that Jeffrey Epstein was a horrible, horrible person.

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Speaker 7: But I don't think all the fault belongs with the men.

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Speaker 7: I think that the reason these victims are not forthcoming

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Speaker 7: is because they were paid very well to do what

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Speaker 7: they did.

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Speaker 4: Lucia two responses. One, Virginia Giuffrey was sexually abused. She

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Speaker 4: says when she was a little girl, she spent time

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Speaker 4: on the street, she was homeless, and she was easily

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Speaker 4: shall we say, course by Julanne Maxwell and in becoming

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Speaker 4: a massage therapist. I don't know about the other ones,

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Speaker 4: what their lives were like, but but we can't can't

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Speaker 4: say to a fourteen, fifteen, sixteen seven year old girl

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Speaker 4: that because you're knowledgeable about sex, that you're gonna have

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Speaker 4: sex with billionaire men's men and princes, et cetera. And

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Speaker 4: are you, as a woman, are you surprised at this

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Speaker 4: point that we don't have the names of these billionaire men,

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Speaker 4: bankers and lawyers who actually had sex.

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Speaker 5: With the girls. Why aren't why aren't the names of

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Speaker 5: the men out there?

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Speaker 4: If in fact there's hundreds of these guys, where are

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Speaker 4: they exactly exactly?

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Speaker 7: This is the if the young girl, this is the fantasy,

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Speaker 7: and they've built a fantasy around some of this stuff,

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Speaker 7: and just somebody said, well, this is so and so,

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Speaker 7: and this is so and so, and this is so

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Speaker 7: and so, and they're just very influenced by Oh, this

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Speaker 7: is whoever it is. I just I believe this is

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Speaker 7: just blown so totally out of proportion. And let's get

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Speaker 7: Donald Trump. Well, I don't doubt that Jeffrey Epstein was

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Speaker 7: a horrible person. I don't doubt that there was some

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Speaker 7: very hokey stuff going on, But I don't believe Donald

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Speaker 7: Trump was involved in it. I don't believe a lot

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Speaker 7: of these people that have been accused. I mean, maybe

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Speaker 7: they got carried away, Maybe these girls did drugs, and

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Speaker 7: I've read that they did. They had alcohol and drugs

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Speaker 7: and all of this. But if this were so terribly bad,

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Speaker 7: why are we not seeing more of exactly an account

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Speaker 7: of who did what?

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Speaker 4: Lucy, thank you for your call. I would say this,

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Speaker 4: Virginia Giuffrey is a very sympathetic victim because I read

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Speaker 4: some of her background. It was said, and if there

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Speaker 4: were crimes being committed and the police were notified, which

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Speaker 4: they were notified, the sex crimes unit in the mid

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Speaker 4: nineteen nineties, New York City didn't do a damn thing

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Speaker 4: about the alleged rape of this farmer woman who appears

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Speaker 4: to be a believable witness, at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 4: I'm waiting to hear the names of the men who

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Speaker 4: did this. Their names got to come out, and I

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Speaker 4: want to know who they are, and I'm sympathetic. We

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Speaker 4: have laws that say that if you're under eighteen, you're

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Speaker 4: gonna have sex with a man more than four years

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Speaker 4: your age, in other word, twenty over twenty two years old,

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Speaker 4: and the men who did this should be held to

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Speaker 4: account criminally and civilly. If some thirty five year old

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Speaker 4: New York banker had sex with a seventeen year old girl,

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Speaker 4: knowing I have reason believe she was seventeen, we have

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Speaker 4: laws to protect these girls, even if they're worldly, and

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Speaker 4: even if they have drug problems, even if they're drunk.

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Speaker 4: You can't do that, so I want to know who's responsible.

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Speaker 4: And Hallie Jackson tonight on AMBC Nightland News had a

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Speaker 4: perfect reason to say, all right, now, you're mature women.

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Speaker 5: Now who did you have sex with against your will?

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Speaker 5: Who did you?

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Speaker 4: Were you drunk? Were you're drugs? Were you trafficked? Were

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Speaker 4: you paid? Did what happened? I want to know the

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Speaker 4: men who did this and then we can fully evaluate. Okay,

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Speaker 4: this guy some of the names mentioned, or Bill Clinton,

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Speaker 4: for example, or Bill Gates, I believe one more than

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Speaker 4: the other. But nonetheless, why aren't there women identifying the

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Speaker 4: men who rape them and they were sexually trafficked to

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Speaker 4: Why is that the I want to know, because their

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Speaker 4: faces are out there, their names are out there, the victims.

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Speaker 4: Who are the men who committed the crimes? Who are they?

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Speaker 4: NBC News says it is not Donald Trump, So what

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Speaker 4: the hell are we talking about? Let's continue. Bill Cunningham

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Speaker 4: calls continue. We got Matt in Saint Louis and Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida,

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Speaker 4: all places in between. Bill cunning into Great American Live

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Speaker 4: with You every Sunday, and of course on Friday, media

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Speaker 4: attacks Caroline Levitt. She told reporters in the White House

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Speaker 4: on Friday, the quote, these emails prove absolutely nothing other

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Speaker 4: than the fact that President Trump did nothing wrong quote unquote.

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Speaker 4: Then and then Rocanna on the news shows today said,

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Speaker 4: among other things, this should be a political win for

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump because the emails do not indicate he did

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Speaker 4: anything wrong. That's according to NBC News in Rocanna. So

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Speaker 4: he gets exasperated and angry about it because he thinks

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Speaker 4: it's a hoax in the sense, not that the girls

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Speaker 4: are all of them every time are lying.

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Speaker 5: That's not what he believes.

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Speaker 4: He thinks the media is using this, which is a

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Speaker 4: big nothing burger politically in twenty twenty five, because he

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Speaker 4: doesn't want to keep talking about Ukraine, or don't we

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Speaker 4: talk about gods that, don't want to talk about the

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Speaker 4: southern border, don't want to talk about what's happening in Charlotte,

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Speaker 4: North Carolina with the arrest of eighty one vicious criminals,

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Speaker 4: don't want to talk about prices, which, by the way,

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Speaker 4: in the last month went up three percent three percent,

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Speaker 4: which is pretty good with full employment of four point

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Speaker 4: two percent, and according to Walmart, the turkey package for

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Speaker 4: Thanksgiving is going to be about twenty percent less than

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Speaker 4: it was last year, So you can't talk about that.

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Speaker 4: What you want to talk about is sex, sex and

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Speaker 4: more sex. And they keep bringing this up NBC News

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Speaker 4: once again. Let me read it again that the president's

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Speaker 4: name appeared frequently in the emails, the twenty thousand pages

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Speaker 4: of emails and documents from the Epstein estate, but Epstein

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Speaker 4: himself did not accuse Trump of any wrongdoing or legal

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Speaker 4: activity in twenty thousand pages of emails in his own

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Speaker 4: estate going back twenty five years. So we have the

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Speaker 4: victims have not identified Donald Trump as a perpetrator.

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Speaker 5: We have his lawyers.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump's lawyers said no, The lawyers for Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 4: said no. All the attorneys representing all these dozens of

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Speaker 4: class action lawsuits against everyone, all of them have disclosed

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Speaker 4: nothing about it.

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Speaker 5: No nothing.

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Speaker 4: So I'm waiting to have a burger there. This is

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Speaker 4: a nothing burger. Do I have sympathy for those victimized

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Speaker 4: by human trafficking? Absolutely? Do I generally believe women when

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Speaker 4: that yes, I do. However, Donald Trump is what makes

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Speaker 4: it a hook for national media coverage. And the name

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump is in the emails, but that is not

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Speaker 4: in culplatory. That exects culplatory, which means there's no evidence

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Speaker 4: he did anything wrong. And my source for that are

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Speaker 4: the victims themselves who don't identify Donald Trump as a perpetrator.

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Speaker 4: And Jeffrey Epstein and Jelaine Maxwell, all of them have

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Speaker 4: said Donald Trump did not commit any offensive behavior towards

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Speaker 4: the girls.

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Speaker 5: Can we stop the madness? Let's continue with your calls.

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Speaker 4: Let's continue in your calls all over the country about

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Speaker 4: the Epstein matter. Then at the bottom of the hour,

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Speaker 4: we'll deal with other matters. But twenty fifteen, after he

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Speaker 4: came down the escalator, there was some reference that this

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Speaker 4: is going back what ten years he'd come down the escalator.

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Speaker 4: He did a brief interview with Bloomberg in twenty fifteen

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Speaker 4: and which Donald Trump in twenty fifteen represented jeff You said,

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein, and he hooked with Jeffrey Epstein the name

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Speaker 4: Bill Clinton because it was perceived in twenty fifteen he

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Speaker 4: was going to run against Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 4: So who brought up Jeffrey Epstein's name ten years ago?

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Speaker 4: It was Donald Trump when he said in this interview,

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Speaker 4: and this is something that the Clinton should worry about.

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Speaker 4: This is ten years ago with Bloomberg Founded on the web.

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Speaker 5: Danny Gleason hit it.

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Speaker 4: You raised the question of Jeffrey Epstein in your remarks

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Speaker 4: event and Q and A.

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Speaker 5: I think he's got a problem, don't think the problem.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: But that island was really a cesspool. There's no question

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Speaker 9: about it. Just ask Prince Andrew. Well, he'll tell you

651
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Speaker 9: about it. The island was an absolute cesspool. So and

652
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Speaker 9: he's been there for many times. Well, I can't say, Frinch,

653
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Speaker 9: but I know friendly you know them? Are you play

654
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Speaker 9: at my clubs a lot? I have clubs, and everybody.

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Speaker 4: Likes to a political problem for her if she runs

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Speaker 4: for president.

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Speaker 9: It could be a political problem. Look, he could be

658
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Speaker 9: a political problem. Right now, he's teflon and right now

659
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Speaker 9: maybe not, but he could end up being a political.

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Speaker 4: Ten years ago, I followed the news as assiduously as

661
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Speaker 4: anyone else that the name Jeffrey Epstein was not on

662
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Speaker 4: my radar. Lolita Island Cesspool was not on my radar,

663
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Speaker 4: and Donald Trump being Donald Trump mentioned the first time

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Speaker 4: in the public domain Jeffrey Epstein ten years ago that

665
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Speaker 4: Bill Clinton's involvement with Jeffrey Epstein at that island, Lalita

666
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Speaker 4: Island Cesspool could be a problem. And so why would

667
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Speaker 4: Donald Trump, ten years ago, if he had personal liabilities,

668
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Speaker 4: bring up for the first time in the national public

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Speaker 4: domain the idea of Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton if

670
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Speaker 4: he had some personal culpability. Once again, the President's name

671
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Speaker 4: appeared frequently in the emails, according to NBC News Tonight,

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Speaker 4: but Epstein did not in these files accused him have

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Speaker 4: any wrongdoing or illegal activity. BINGO, Let's go back to

674
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Speaker 4: your call. Thousands on hold, millions are listening. Let's go

675
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Speaker 4: to Matt in Saint Louis, the home of the Cardinals

676
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Speaker 4: who beat the Reds on a regular basis. Matt and

677
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Speaker 4: Saint Louis, Welcome to the Bill Show. Matt, how are

678
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Speaker 4: you good? Bill, How are you, sir, doing well? Go ahead,

679
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Speaker 4: I'd just like to throw a couple of things out you.

680
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Speaker 4: You're a very smart man. And I do know what

681
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 4: TDS is. My sister had that very bad. You can't

682
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Speaker 4: say anything positive about the administration without her warping the views.

683
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 4: It's crazy, but you know, I do remember sitting there

684
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Speaker 4: watching the TV. Pam Bondy had said that something along

685
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Speaker 4: the lines of the client list was on her desk

686
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Speaker 4: for a review. I remember the binders. There were people

687
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Speaker 4: going up the White House driveway getting binders.

688
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Speaker 10: I don't know. There wasn't much information in there, but

689
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 10: she alluded to things coming out. Now it seems like

690
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 10: nothing is going to come out. I don't understand why

691
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Speaker 10: Maxwell is in a moved to a CHRISTI prison in Tech.

692
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Speaker 10: I think we all agree she's the epitome of evil, right,

693
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Speaker 10: I don't get why she gets that. And frankly, I

694
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Speaker 10: don't get the latest attacks on MPG and Massey, And

695
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 10: it seems the only reason Trump seems to be attacking

696
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Speaker 10: them is because they're pushing for the release of the files.

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Speaker 10: And I think the reason that we're all saying all

698
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Speaker 10: these questions of what if, what if? The only reason

699
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Speaker 10: we're talking about is because Trump has a release the

700
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Speaker 10: Epstein files. If he just released him, it would have

701
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Speaker 10: been a win. It would have been a win right away.

702
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Speaker 10: I just wonder what is holding him back.

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Speaker 4: Ken Answell Roe Conna has said it, and I see

704
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Speaker 4: the turning of the screw a little bit here. It

705
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Speaker 4: appears the mainstream media is about to understand that Trump

706
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Speaker 4: was not one of the perpetrators of the teenage girls.

707
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Speaker 4: They're slowly turning the other direction, but talk about their

708
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Speaker 4: own making. Pam Bondi, Attorney General recently she was just

709
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Speaker 4: sworn in, said the Epstein list is on her desk.

710
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Speaker 4: She's going to release him. And they're all kind of

711
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 4: binders walking out down the driveway to the White House

712
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Speaker 4: from certain podcasters that she gave binders to that didn't

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Speaker 4: amount to hill of beans. And so sometimes they're their

714
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Speaker 4: own worst enemy. Donald Trump in twenty fifteen is talking

715
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Speaker 4: about Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton.

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Speaker 5: Why.

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Speaker 4: I have no idea, because he must have known something

718
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Speaker 4: at that point. But I contend that the end of

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Speaker 4: the day, what's important here, Matt, is that Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: sexually abused, directly and directly involved at all in illegal

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Speaker 4: illicit activities of Jeffrey Epstein between nineteen ninety five and

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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, when Epstein killed himself. The answers appears to

723
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Speaker 4: be no. Could there be a smoking gun out there somewhere.

724
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Speaker 4: I guess it's possible, But the victims of this have

725
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Speaker 4: not identified Donald Trump. Jeffrey Epstein said no. Virginia Duffrey

726
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 4: says no. Alan Dershowitz, who was the attorney for Epstein,

727
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Speaker 4: says no. All the lawyers on these got hundreds of

728
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Speaker 4: millions of dollars in class action lawsuits. They all none

729
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Speaker 4: of them identified Donald Trump? And so why if I'm

730
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Speaker 4: Donald Trump, I don't pay much attention to advice from

731
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Speaker 4: the Clinton eases, but get it all out assuming I'm

732
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Speaker 4: not sure the files are going to come out, because

733
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Speaker 4: if the House votes to do it, okay, then the

734
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Speaker 4: Senate's got to vote to do it over sixty okay.

735
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Speaker 4: Then the president's got to sign a law, and then

736
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Speaker 4: it can be overridden in the Senate.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: If I'm the president, I'm as pure as I appear

739
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Speaker 4: to be based upon all this other information, why not

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Speaker 4: say it's going to hurt a few people. There's some

741
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Speaker 4: names in there. They can't defend themselves anywhere. Like Bill Richardson,

742
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 4: you an ambassador under Clinton is dead. Supposedly he's one

743
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Speaker 4: of the guys. Bill Gates is still with us. Rumors

744
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Speaker 4: are Melinda left him Bill Gates because of this.

745
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Speaker 5: I don't know, but whatever it is, it is.

746
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Speaker 4: Prince Andrews said, the photo, the famous photos is AI.

747
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Speaker 4: It's a bunch of crap.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. How about getting all the names?

749
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Speaker 4: Do you find an odd, Matt that none of the

750
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Speaker 4: victims have identified Donald Trump as a perpetrator?

751
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he continues to act as if you're trying to

752
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Speaker 5: hide something.

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Speaker 10: Yes, yes I do, and I and I and I

754
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 10: see what the news is doing. You know a separate

755
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 10: example that it goes along with Epstein and everything. I

756
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 10: see it every day on CNN. No they ever talk

757
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Speaker 10: about the price of eggs and the price of gas

758
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 10: before would bide And now if you ever bring up

759
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Speaker 10: the fact that if I go to the grocery store,

760
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Speaker 10: I can get two dozen eggs for four to fifty

761
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Speaker 10: not story at the gas pump and it's two fifty

762
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Speaker 10: five here And see Lewis I paid.

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Speaker 4: Two I paid two thirty nine today in Cincinnati. So

764
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 4: the overall inflation rate is three percent. Now, like this

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Speaker 4: morning ABC News with George Slappnopolis Jonathan Carr put up

766
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Speaker 4: like six items that were more expensive, and I've always

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Speaker 4: working for Donald Trump, I would have been more more

768
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Speaker 4: effective than Kevin Haslin. But nonetheless, there's six items.

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Speaker 5: I can tell you.

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Speaker 4: Overall is three percent, which is damn which is pretty

771
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 4: damn good. But why doesn't Donald Trump say I.

772
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 5: Didn't do it. I have proof I didn't do it.

773
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 5: I know I didn't do it.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna do everything in my power to release everything

775
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 4: that I got and let the chips fwhere they may

776
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Speaker 4: with the bank. Do you think there's hundreds of billionaires, financiers, lawyers,

777
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Speaker 4: and politicians who sexually abused girls under Jeffrey Epstein's watch.

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Speaker 4: That's what the girls are saying, right Well, who are they? What?

779
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Speaker 5: Who? What?

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00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 10: What? We'd like to know? And you know, if Trump

781
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 10: isn't on the list, and likely not given everything we've seen,

782
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 10: but again, he's leaving the suspicion in the air for

783
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Speaker 10: all of us to have the conjecture that we don't know.

784
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Speaker 10: But having said that, you know, I don't think I

785
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 10: would say I don't think he did, but a lot

786
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 10: of the people who probably did, probably as finance, not

787
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 10: just his campaign, but both sides, every politicians campaign. So

788
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 10: you know, it's probably hot stove. He doesn't want to touch,

789
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 10: and I get it, no politician would want to touch it.

790
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 10: But then again, we all voted for Trump because he

791
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 10: wasn't the average politician, That's right. I hope at the

792
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 10: end of the day, if it does get through the

793
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Speaker 10: House somehow, and it does somehow get the sixty votes,

794
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Speaker 10: I can't imagine Trump wouldn't sign it. I think the

795
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 10: backlash would be crazy, and I still would too. What

796
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Speaker 10: are your thoughts on Maxville in Texas well?

797
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Speaker 4: I think she's being given better treatment because uh, I

798
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Speaker 4: don't know. I think number one, if Trump pardons her,

799
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Speaker 4: that's a serious, serious blunder. I think she's a very

800
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Speaker 4: bad person who did very bad things, and she goes

801
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 4: to do I've been in federal prisons representing clients. There's

802
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Speaker 4: no such thing as a posh country club prison, even

803
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Speaker 4: the one in Nashville, North Carolina, which I've been to

804
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Speaker 4: to visit some I had a friend of mine on

805
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Speaker 4: tax evasion was convicted.

806
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 5: It's not good, but it's not like locked down like Joliet. Uh.

807
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 5: That looks bad. That looks bad for Donald Trump.

808
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Speaker 4: UH to give her some favorite treatment when she's a

809
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 4: human trafficker. But but if she's a human trafficker, I

810
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 4: like to know where where are the traffic traffic ees?

811
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Speaker 4: Who are the where are the men? And she is

812
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 4: said in their statements to the AG's office that all

813
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 4: the names available are out there, there's no other names.

814
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 4: And what names are out there? I'm not aware of

815
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Speaker 4: any men's names, are you? I look at Wikipedia. I

816
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 4: see seven or eight names. I don't know if they're

817
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 4: guilty or not. How about the victims of the crime

818
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Speaker 4: identifying the perpetrator?

819
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Speaker 5: Does that make sense to you?

820
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 4: Instead of a news article, a magazine, a book, Hallie

821
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Speaker 4: Jackson NBC, How about the victims identifying the perpetrators?

822
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Speaker 5: Does that make sense to anybody?

823
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Speaker 11: No?

824
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Speaker 10: But I will say if Trump somehow, if the epsteam

825
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Speaker 10: files aren't released, and on top of that, somehow Maxwell's pardoned,

826
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Speaker 10: which I think if if somehow Trump would pardon Macnew,

827
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Speaker 10: he would have to wait until the end of his

828
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Speaker 10: presidency because if he didn't, I do think MAGA would

829
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Speaker 10: turn I mean one of the worst things I thought

830
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Speaker 10: Biden did, The one that sealed the absolute deal for

831
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Speaker 10: me is when he pardoned the entire family. Why it

832
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 10: was the whole deal. I know he's corrupt. Six when

833
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Speaker 10: he when I found out twenty minutes after he got

834
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Speaker 10: on that helicopter and he pardoned everybody, I was so furious.

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Speaker 11: I was done.

836
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Speaker 10: Now, if Trump pardons Maxwell in a similar fashion, I'd

837
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 10: imagine he'd wait till the end. I don't think he can.

838
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 10: But if somehow he does that and the ftem bills

839
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 10: aren't released, it's going to cause the most razy suspicion.

840
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 10: What we're talking about now is going to be ten

841
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 10: times worst, you know, with the suspicion. So let's just

842
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 10: I'm just hoping.

843
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 5: I'm hoping. I'll see what happens.

844
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 4: But there's so much good stuff happening in the country

845
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Speaker 4: right now that's not being covered because of the media

846
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 4: is using this Jeffery Epstein to attack indirectly Donald Trump.

847
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Speaker 4: When these bombshells came out, these twenty thousand emails a

848
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 4: few days ago, it was a lead story ABC, NBCCBS,

849
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Speaker 4: pbsc MS. Now Ever, on the hour, every hour it

850
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 4: came out more bombshells. The term was bombshell. It's a bombshell,

851
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 4: and then I read the stories quote. The President's name

852
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 4: appeared frequently in the twenty thousand emails, but Epstein did

853
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 4: not in these files accuse him of any wrongdoing or

854
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 4: legal activity in that what's important, but just to mention

855
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Speaker 4: someone as a bombshell implicitly communicates the idea that Trump

856
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 4: is involved. When the when the victims say no, and

857
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 4: Epstein's lawyers say no, and Epstein said no, and Jelaane

858
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Speaker 4: Maxwell says no, and all the lawyers of the class

859
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 4: action lawsuits say no, and the Democratic politicians who do

860
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Speaker 4: not go to the well of the floor and the

861
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Speaker 4: House of the Senate, they have complete civil immunity of

862
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Speaker 4: saying anything they want to say, and not one is

863
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Speaker 4: gone there, and give me the names of the perpetrators.

864
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 5: Why is that?

865
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Speaker 4: Maxwell says in her statement, there's no other perpetrator.

866
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Speaker 5: This is all made up. I'm thinking, I don't believe that. Either.

867
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Speaker 4: I don't know if there's hundreds of billionaires and lawyers

868
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Speaker 4: who have done this or there's.

869
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Speaker 5: Only two or three. I don't know. I tend to

870
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Speaker 5: think there's hundreds.

871
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 4: But why can't the victims identify the perpetrators.

872
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 5: Now there's a novel suggestion. I'm a victim.

873
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 4: This is what this guy did to me, this is

874
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 4: how he did it to me, this is where he

875
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 4: did it to me. This is why he did it

876
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 4: to me. I like to know that, right, But it's

877
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 4: not happening. Twenty minutes after the air bill cunning in

878
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 4: with you every summer. Now, let's continue with your calls.

879
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 4: I feel frustrated, I feel angry. I feel is that

880
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 4: I if justice is not being done to the victims

881
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 4: and to Donald Trump and of these other guys whose

882
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 4: names I look at Wikipedia.

883
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 5: I'm not going to mention their names.

884
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 4: Wikipedia is right about half the time putting names out

885
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 4: there of allegations that are unproven.

886
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 5: Why is it happening.

887
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 4: It's happening to derail the policies of Donald Trump, to

888
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 4: smear him indirectly. That's why it's being done. It's not

889
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 4: being done to benefit the the victims at all. This

890
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 4: is the most thoroughly investigated crime since the Kennedy assassination,

891
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 4: by multiple agencies, multiple years, multiple decades, literally hundreds or

892
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 4: thousands of investigators involved every aspect of his life class

893
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 4: you know, class action lawyers do a fantastic job in

894
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 4: seeking money for the redress of those who have been injured.

895
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 4: And I look online at the number of lawsuits filed

896
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Speaker 4: against almost everybody in New York City, banks and brokerage

897
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 4: firms and credit unions. Also the estate of Jeffrey Epstein

898
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 4: at hundreds of millions of dollars in it. Claims are

899
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 4: being made against that. There's new lawsuits being filed monthly

900
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 4: weekly involving the victims of Jeffrey Epstein's human trafficking and

901
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 4: sexual activities. Perverts, drugs are being used, teenage girls being

902
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 4: juiced up, et cetera. I read these allegations. I mean, Okay,

903
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 4: who did it? We know Jeffrey Epstein did it. We

904
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 4: know Ghlaine Maxwell did it. And she supposedly also jumped

905
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Speaker 4: in had Lesbie in love with some of these teenage girls.

906
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 4: In addition to other things. She was a recruiter and

907
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 4: she I want to get your reaction to this one.

908
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 4: Over the next thirty to forty minutes she has in

909
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 4: her head. I guess the names of all these men,

910
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 4: these guys right where are they are? Reading stories from

911
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 4: Gallainne Maxwell. One of her depositions which she gave as

912
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 4: part of one of the lawsuits, indicate that she can

913
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 4: add no one else, no other men, no other perpetrators.

914
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Speaker 5: All the names are out there and that's the end

915
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 5: of it. Are you kidding me?

916
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 4: Can that be true that Jeffrey Epstein almost by himself,

917
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 4: sexually trafficked up to a young girls too? To who

918
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Speaker 4: who is it? I need the names from every objective indicator.

919
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 4: One name not mentioned and cannot be mentioned as Donald Trump.

920
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 4: They're all saying he's not the one we know in

921
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 4: New York City. After he did his time in Southeast Florida,

922
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 4: he went back to his uh to his mansion in

923
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Speaker 4: New York City, and George Sloppanopolis of ABC News went

924
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Speaker 4: to Epstein's welcome home dinner at his mansion in Manhattan

925
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Speaker 4: and some of the people there were the shakers and

926
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Speaker 4: movers of media throughout New York City, including Katy Corek.

927
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Speaker 4: What a decent human being associate with a known sexual

928
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 4: trafficker of girls? What did George Slappinopolis know and when

929
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 4: did he know it? Or Katy Corek, hell, I don't know?

930
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 4: And uh Saane Maxwell had the ability of come clean

931
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Speaker 4: with a whole bunch of names, get out of jail

932
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 4: free card.

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Speaker 5: She didn't do any of it. She accepted a twenty

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Speaker 5: year sentence.

935
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Speaker 4: When she was on trial, the prosecutors tried to get

936
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Speaker 4: her to come clean, tell us what you know, you're

937
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 4: gonna if you're convicted, you're gonna go to prison for

938
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Speaker 4: like decades. And she's sixty three years old. Right she

939
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Speaker 4: went to trial, she was fifty nine. Lay out what

940
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 4: you know, and well, we'll trust, but verify you know anything.

941
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Speaker 4: She says, I wouldn't believe it. You'd have to have

942
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 4: two or three objective verifications and anything. I wouldn't accept

943
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 4: what her name is. Terrible person. But she had the

944
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Speaker 4: ability to trade out information in exchange for get out

945
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Speaker 4: of jail free card, and she didn't. She says, I

946
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 4: have nothing else to say. If I could give you

947
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Speaker 4: more names, I would. She's given us hardly any names

948
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Speaker 4: other than Prince Andrew. Did Prince Andrews sexually molest a

949
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 4: thousand girls? I don't think, what the hell are we

950
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 4: talking about. Let's get your calls and we have full lines.

951
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 4: Get to him the line becomes available, which it never does.

952
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Speaker 4: Eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven.

953
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Speaker 5: We'll see what comes with this.

954
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 4: And Jeffrey Epstein was a well known financier and a Democrat.

955
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 4: A Democrat. He was a Democrat. He wasn't a Donald

956
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 4: Trump mega Republican. In fact, Donald Trump kicked him out

957
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 4: of mar A Lago in like twenty oh six, twenty

958
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 4: oh seven when this stuff started in Miami.

959
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 5: Trump say he's a bad guy, he's out of here.

960
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 5: But Donald Trump's the only one held responsible for all

961
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 5: this crap.

962
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 4: And according to NBC News, President's name appeared frequently in

963
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 4: the emails, but Jeffrey Epstein did not in these files.

964
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 4: Twenty thousand plus other exhibits accuse Donald Trump of any

965
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 4: wrongdoing or a legal activity.

966
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 5: So what in the hell are we talking about?

967
00:56:58,920 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 12: Now?

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00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 4: Your calls continued, Bill Cunning in the Great American with

969
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 4: all give me your thoughts on this, Bill Cunning and

970
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 4: the Great American with you every Sunday. No, well, u's

971
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 4: continue with your calls and just refresh my truth social account.

972
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 4: How about this one quote from Donald Trump himself tonight quote,

973
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 4: House Republicans should vote to release the Epstein files because

974
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 4: we have nothing to hide. He wrote that about an

975
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 4: hour ago. I haven't refreshed truth Social since I got

976
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 4: on the air, let me try that again.

977
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 5: I just had a call from Saint Louis. Quote.

978
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 4: House Republicans should vote to release the Epstein files because

979
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 4: we have nothing to hide truth, Trump wrote on Truth

980
00:57:52,480 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 4: Social Sunday night tonight. So why fight like ray not

981
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 4: to release the files. Call Marjorie Trader Green, go after

982
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 4: Thomas Massey. If you're going to say release the files,

983
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 4: what the hell?

984
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 11: What?

985
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 10: So?

986
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 4: If the House Oversight Committee releases all the files of

987
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein, if the Estate of Jeffrey Epstein releases all

988
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 4: the files and emails that they have, if the Department

989
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 4: of Justice under Donald Trump and Pam Bondy release all

990
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 4: the files, well that satisfy anybody. No, they're still grand

991
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 4: jury testimony under oath in the Southern District of Florida

992
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 4: that have not been released because it's grand jury testimony

993
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 4: generally not released even though Epstein is dead. But the

994
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 4: federal judge there said, no, we're not going to release it.

995
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 4: It's not one of the exceptions. So will this satisfy

996
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 4: the suffering from TDS Trump to arrangement syndrome. No, we're

997
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 4: not satisfying because it'll be a bombshell that Trump's name

998
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 4: is mentioned in an email, not that he's committed any offense,

999
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 4: but that his name is mentioned in an email. That'll

1000
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 4: be it. Let's continue. Thousands on old millions are listening.

1001
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 4: Let's go to Gerald and Jacksonville, Florida. And uh, Gerald

1002
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 4: and Jacksonville, Florida. Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Gerald,

1003
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 4: how are you fine?

1004
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 13: Mister Turnham think you're thinking about Cole that as always

1005
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 13: holding tight you live big bugs bite just quick emphasis.

1006
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 13: I want to give my condoledness to the pre family

1007
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 13: first of all, utmost and all the other ones that

1008
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 13: had been victimized.

1009
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 10: It might have been young at their time and probably

1010
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 10: eradicated it. And what they're doing, the jimmies there just

1011
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 10: stored and dirty laundry. They got enough else better to do.

1012
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 10: So if President trub wants to settle it, you know

1013
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 10: are because he's the president of the United States. They

1014
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 10: waited so long to sign the bill for openly unfortunately,

1015
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 10: so this is like in your face as he wants to.

1016
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 10: He's the president and sure enough can step back a

1017
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 10: little squador a little bit, not as Republican buddies.

1018
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 4: So well, he said, he said, about forty minutes ago.

1019
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 4: He wants now the Republicans to vote to release. So

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01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 4: what's going to happen now here we go? The House

1021
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 4: is going to vote on Tuesday or Wednesday. Okay, it's

1022
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 4: gonna be overwhelming. Release the release the files from DOJ

1023
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 4: whatever is in control of the executive branch of government.

1024
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 5: I release it.

1025
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 4: Then they're going to go to the Senate, and I hope.

1026
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 4: John Thune of South Dakota quickly says, okay, we're going

1027
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 4: to vote on that immediately, and then had the President

1028
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 4: sign it. And whatever it is it is, there'll be

1029
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 4: a bunch of names, maybe innocent parties in there, maybe

1030
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 4: guilty parties.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, the President said about an hour ago, release the files.

1033
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 4: It's a reversal. Get it done, whatever it is it is,

1034
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 4: and move on.

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Speaker 13: Little caveat in the state of Florida, Bill, if I may,

1036
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 13: there's no steal limitations on pedophiles that might be of

1037
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 13: some people.

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Speaker 4: It is, well, you know, I don't want to disagree

1039
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Speaker 4: with Megan Kelly, but a pedophile is the is the

1040
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,439
Speaker 4: rape or sexual activity with a child under the age

1041
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 4: of eleven or twelve before puberty and so it's it's

1042
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,919
Speaker 4: a child rapist different than a pedophile. To me, that's

1043
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 4: a distinction without much of a difference. But nonetheless, there

1044
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 4: should be no statue of limitations on a child.

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Speaker 5: Uh you know what the age is in Florida, I

1046
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 5: don't know.

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01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 4: I have a home there, but I don't know. Is

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01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 4: a seventeen is a ten or twelve?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 13: I'm thinking at eighteen under, eighteen eighteen and under.

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Speaker 5: But I'm fine.

1052
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Speaker 13: I looked at it. I didn't see the specks, but

1053
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 13: it just said, you know, I read some words real quick.

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Speaker 5: Fine with me.

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Speaker 4: If some man had sex with a sixteen, seventeen, twelve

1056
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Speaker 4: year old, I think the older you get, it's all bad.

1057
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Speaker 4: If you have rape a woman who's twenty five, it's

1058
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Speaker 4: all bad. And so whatever it is, it is. And

1059
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Speaker 4: but according to everyone up to this point, Trump's name

1060
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Speaker 4: is gonna be all over the Epstein files, but none

1061
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Speaker 4: of it's going to accuse him of wrongful behavior. It'll

1062
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Speaker 4: be a bombshell, but it will exonerate Donald Trump, is

1063
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Speaker 4: what I what I believe is the case according to

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Speaker 4: NBC News.

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Speaker 13: And they're just going to flame all the victims. Just

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Speaker 13: I think they would honorable Cavanaught. They took time be

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Speaker 13: thrue Hill, and you know that's what they're doing now.

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Speaker 13: They're scratch these these dead wounds have been very for years,

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Speaker 13: and these people are going to be traumatized all over

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Speaker 13: again because they want to make pity with the with

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Speaker 13: the President of the United States.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw Hallie Jackson to not

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Speaker 4: an NBC Nightly News, the lead story was like five

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Speaker 4: or six of these women. They appeared now to be

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Speaker 4: in their thirties, forties and fifties, and they had pictures

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Speaker 4: of that where they were teenage girls. They're going to

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Speaker 4: be in Congress on Tuesday, and they're gonna let the

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Speaker 4: chips fall where they may, whatever it is it is.

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Speaker 4: But I would like to know the names of the rapist.

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Speaker 4: I want to know the names and the men who

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Speaker 4: did this to these girls. I went to know their names.

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Speaker 4: They should be held accountable, civilly and or criminally. Gerald,

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Speaker 4: do you agree with me. I want to know who

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Speaker 4: they are, who these guys are.

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Speaker 5: I want to know.

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Speaker 13: I'm totally one hundred percent plus. I mean, there's no

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Speaker 13: sense to it, and they can have behind their money

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Speaker 13: as long as they want but fuster earlier just.

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Speaker 2: To prevail hope.

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Speaker 5: Whatever it is, let freedom ring.

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Speaker 4: But the President said about an hour or so ago,

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Speaker 4: telling Republicans to vote yes, release the files.

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Speaker 5: There we go.

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Speaker 4: Let's go to padd and Columbus, the home of the Buckeyes.

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Speaker 4: Padd and Columbus. Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. Pat,

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Speaker 4: how are you well?

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Speaker 14: I want to point out a problem that you have

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Speaker 14: with your logic, because you are applying a twenty twenty

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Speaker 14: five attitude towards something that happened thirty years ago.

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Speaker 2: And I can.

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Speaker 15: Promise you a willing fifteen year old thirty years ago

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Speaker 15: was considered a lucky thing for a guy to find.

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Speaker 15: He was not concerned about whether she was eighteen. And

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Speaker 15: I'm talking thirty years ago, so it.

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Speaker 16: You know you're using the word victim like you think

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Speaker 16: these poor girls were so victimized. I can promise you

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Speaker 16: as a victim myself, if I had been offered the

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Speaker 16: opportunity to give a massage to a naked man, I

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Speaker 16: certainly would have known that the sex was going to

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Speaker 16: be involved. And this gal had to be dumber than.

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Speaker 10: A box of rocks.

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Speaker 16: And these girls all knew what they were doing, and

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Speaker 16: the reason they haven't named any.

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Speaker 7: Of their supposed rapists because.

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Speaker 16: They were never raped, they were willingly having sex.

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Speaker 4: The nineties, I did criminal defense work representing generally men

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Speaker 4: charged with sexual offenses against women. It was some point

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Speaker 4: in the nineteen nineties and when from fifteen years old

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Speaker 4: to sixteen years old, but in the mid nineteen nineties

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Speaker 4: in the state of Ohio. Of course this happened in

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Speaker 4: New York or Florida or on some island in the Caribbean,

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Speaker 4: but it was illegal in the nineteen nineties for a

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Speaker 4: man over the four years age different, So if you

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Speaker 4: were twenty one, you cannot have legally have sex with

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Speaker 4: a sixteen year old in the state of Ohio. Now

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Speaker 4: it doesn't apply to Florida and New York. We'll see

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Speaker 4: what that is. Let's continue go to Dale and Iowa,

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Speaker 4: the home of the Hawkeyes and the Cyclones. Dale and Iowa.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Dale, how are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing fine.

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Speaker 11: I hope when I retire from my law just all

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01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 11: kick back and MIA's relaxed and calm as using to be.

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Speaker 4: I let listeners have their say, even though I may disagree.

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Speaker 4: Graves ipseil loquitor. The thing speaks for itself. It is

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Speaker 4: illegal for a man, at least in Ohio maybe Iowa

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Speaker 4: with more than a four year age difference for an

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Speaker 4: underage girl has been that way for a long time.

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Speaker 11: You met, I think you're the Joe Friday of media

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01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 11: these days, getting the facts out there. The question about

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Speaker 11: Donald Trump not getting the information out I hope that

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01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 11: lady who was waiting to be sworn in realizes wasn't

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Speaker 11: that important that she get in there? To get in

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01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 11: on this boat. He's tried, the courts of stocked in.

1144
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 11: Congress hasn't been there. The media hasn't put anything out there.

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01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 11: Nobody's going to believe any of them. I wonder where's

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01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 11: Gloria Allred, who's supposed to represent something in these folks.

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Speaker 4: Well, why doesn't Gloria all Red make public the names

1148
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 4: of the perpetrators? She can give them the Roe Conna.

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Speaker 4: He's got complete constitutional immunity on the floor of the

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Speaker 4: House of Representatives to say anything he wants to say.

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Speaker 5: Why.

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Speaker 4: I'll ask you this, Dale, why aren't the names out

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01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 4: there identified by the victims. If I'm a victim of

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01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 4: a sexual assault, I'm going to want to identify the

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Speaker 4: person that did it to me right.

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Speaker 11: Well, it's a complete mystery, and I thought a lot

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01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 11: of this had been in the courts where that information

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01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 11: was out there, and I did want to say. The

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Speaker 11: reason I initially called was why is Maxwell moved to

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Speaker 11: where she is? I think it's proof to keep her

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Speaker 11: alive rather than have what happened to Epstein.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's possible. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Being in federal prison, whether it's one of the lower

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Speaker 4: security or whatever, is bad. I wouldn't want to spend

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Speaker 4: the next fifteen years in a women's prison until I'm

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Speaker 4: like eighty years old, which is what she's facing. And

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Speaker 4: if you've practiced Lowdale, if you're sixty years old and

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Speaker 4: you're on trial for your life, and you get a

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Speaker 4: deal put in front of you, you give us a

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Speaker 4: full factual statement of all the men who raped these girls,

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Speaker 4: and we will verify what you're saying is accurate. We

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Speaker 4: will cut your sentence in half for by one third

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Speaker 4: or two thirds. Most people would do it, correct.

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Speaker 11: I would guess they would.

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Speaker 2: But let she didn't do this.

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Speaker 5: She didn't.

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Speaker 10: Would you believe that person is going to do that?

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Speaker 5: Trust?

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Speaker 4: But I'd have to verify it. You know, you have

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Speaker 4: to verify it. And I wouldn't trust the damn thing

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Speaker 4: Juliane Maxwell.

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Speaker 11: Whatever.

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Speaker 4: If she told me the sun rose in the East,

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Speaker 4: I'd have to get up and some break to make

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Speaker 4: sure it does. But she's allfered the deal, and she

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Speaker 4: didn't take the deal because she says, I can't give

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Speaker 4: any names because there aren't anymore. You know, a couple

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Speaker 4: of them and that's it.

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Speaker 5: And I don't believe her. I don't believe her.

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Speaker 11: I would ask her and the other ladies to identify

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Speaker 11: the tattoos on these people.

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Speaker 4: And there's ways of identifying. You say you had guessed

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Speaker 4: sex with Bill Richardson, who's the ambassador from New Mexico.

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Speaker 4: He's now dead. Well, uh, where did it happen? How

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Speaker 4: did it happen? Give me distinguishing traits of his body,

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Speaker 4: who was present when it occur? There's ways of you know,

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Speaker 4: the East rape investigators know exactly what they're doing. And

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying every case, but if I'm a victim

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Speaker 4: of a crime, I want to identify the perpetrator and

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Speaker 4: these girls to know them.

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Speaker 5: Let's continue.

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Speaker 4: Go to I said Gale, And let's go to Mike

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Speaker 4: and Wisconsin. It's been there for a couple hours. Mike

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Speaker 4: and Wisconsin. Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. Mike, how are

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Speaker 4: you hey?

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Speaker 17: Billy from Wisconsin, And like you said to one of

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Speaker 17: the previous callers, who our Brewers often beat the Reds

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Speaker 17: as well, So no.

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Speaker 4: Question, no question. But the Reds in Milwaukee two of

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01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 4: the last three games. They beat Milwaukee twice up there

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Speaker 4: to get into the plays.

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Speaker 2: I was in both games, Billy, Hey.

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Speaker 17: Three bullet points for you to comment on as an attorney.

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Speaker 17: Number One, under the first Trump administration, both Epstein and

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Speaker 17: Maxwell were indicted. Now, any president who wanted to hide

1216
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 17: something would not tell his doj to start an indictment

1217
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 17: because it leads to discovery and you wouldn't want something

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Speaker 17: that you were trying to hide to be discovered. Number Two,

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Speaker 17: if you're right and there were one thousand girls involved

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Speaker 17: in this, and I pity them, we have to really

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Speaker 17: empathize with you. There's always the chance that one or

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01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 17: two of them could, you know, be a blasy for

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Speaker 17: it and make up some story about the president, and

1224
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 17: that may be what these TDS people are hoping for.

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Speaker 17: And then third bullet point, Billy. You know, I've testified

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Speaker 17: before at grand jury. I've given testimony under seal that

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Speaker 17: the judge promised me would never be revealed. And I'm

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Speaker 17: afraid that if Congress forces the Court's hand to unseal

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Speaker 17: documents these girls, these now women have a right to privacy.

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Speaker 17: If they don't want their names to be revealed, it

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Speaker 17: shouldn't be revealed. And and I'm afraid that future witnesses

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Speaker 17: like me may not be as free to give testimony

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Speaker 17: if they're not confident that their testimony will never be unsealed.

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Speaker 17: I'd like your opinion on those.

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Speaker 4: I would think the bulk of these women, most of

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Speaker 4: them have been identified because they've gone on CNN, RAMUSNBC, ABC, NBC.

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01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 4: They're out there with their face and their name, and

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01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 4: they're saying these things happen to them without specificity of

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01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 4: the perpetrator. Now, if it's grand jury testimony, you have

1240
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 4: an expectation of privacy. What you say before grand jury

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01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 4: is kept there except during a trial. The grand jury

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Speaker 4: transcript that we be released to impeach a witness, but

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Speaker 4: that doesn't apply in this case. But I don't know

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Speaker 4: if it's a thousand girls, one said tonight there was

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01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 4: a thousand girls, well who are they and what do

1246
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 4: they alleged happen? And I'm sure a great majority of

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Speaker 4: them don't want their name published. They don't want to

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Speaker 4: go through it again. But those who put their names

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Speaker 4: out there, and our national media tours and our plaintiffs

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Speaker 4: and class action lawsuits have waived their right to privacy

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Speaker 4: because of their voluntary behavior, those are the ones that

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Speaker 4: should be asked. Tonight by Hallie Jackson, NBC Nightly News,

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Speaker 4: give me the names of the men who raped you?

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Speaker 5: And that was not asked.

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Speaker 4: And maybe there's an agreement with the NBC who's not

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Speaker 4: the ask him that question, which I guess I would get.

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Speaker 4: But if your name is out there already, you waived

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01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 4: your rights under privacy laws, and you want to put

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01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 4: what happened out there is reality, somebody should ask them

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Speaker 4: who raped you? And most victims of a rape want

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Speaker 4: to identify the perpetrator, either publicly or privately. And so

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Speaker 4: let's get the names out there. Now that Trump has

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01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,839
Speaker 4: set house, Republicans should support the release of the Epstein

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Speaker 4: FILESY put that out there about an hour and a

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Speaker 4: half ago. Let's see what happens this is going to

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Speaker 4: dominate the news all the way through this week.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree, absolutely, Billie.

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Speaker 17: It will dominate the news and it is a distraction

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Speaker 17: from the achievements of the Trump administration.

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Speaker 4: The media bingo right there because NBC News has said

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Speaker 4: tonight that none of the files released so far implicate

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump in anything improper or illegal. That's from NBC News.

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Speaker 4: Let's continue coming up later after midnight. Jeff cru will

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Speaker 4: be here from New Orleans and Losso later on. As

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Speaker 4: Katie Talento about obamacaarn Wyatt failed. This is driving me nuts.

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Speaker 4: Got to get on another topic until next Sunday Night.

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Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham with you Every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham.

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Speaker 4: President said tonight, we have nothing to hide. This is

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Speaker 4: a democratic hoax. Quote House Republicans should vote to release

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01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 4: the Epstein files because we have nothing to hide. It's

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01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 4: time to move on from this democratic hoax perpetrated by

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01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 4: radical left lunatics in order to deflect from the great

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Speaker 4: success of the Republican Party, including our recent victory over

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Speaker 4: the Democratic shutdown. So we'll see what happens this week.

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Speaker 4: I would think this will be a topic gay throughout

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Speaker 4: most of the week. And also next Sunday night, we'll

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Speaker 4: see what happens and the Trump reversal comes. As expectations

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Speaker 4: of a mass GOP defection, the House grew out of

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01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 4: a vote this week, and there was a sense that

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Speaker 4: when Senator John Kennedy Louisiana stepped forward this morning and

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Speaker 4: said he's going to vote to release it, there was

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Speaker 4: no support not to do it. So all I can

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Speaker 4: say is is of this point, According to NBC News,

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Speaker 4: none of the Epstein files at this point implicate the

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Speaker 4: president whatsoever. And if Jeffrey Epstein would implicate implicate the president,

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Speaker 4: which he didn't do, I wouldn't believe it anyway. If

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Speaker 4: Julane Maxwell implicates the president, I wouldn't believe her anyway.

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Speaker 5: Would you so a trust but verify?

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Speaker 4: But it's all going to be out there, we think soon,

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Speaker 4: and it will not play kate those suffering from Trump

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Speaker 4: to derangement syndrome simply and make them angry. If if

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Speaker 4: the artful dodger gets at the road runner gets away again,

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Speaker 4: it's going to make angry the media because everything about

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Speaker 4: Trump is a bombshell, even the bombshell that Trump, according

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Speaker 4: to the Epstein files, is innocent that's still a bombshell.

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Speaker 4: Let's continue with more coming up. I'm going to put

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Speaker 4: a call in Jeffrey crue Air. He's got a great

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Speaker 4: column at town hall dot com about about tariffs and

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Speaker 4: so much more. Also later on, I want to get

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Speaker 4: on a different topic until we learn more about this

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Speaker 4: later in the week. Put a call in to Katie Talento.

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Speaker 4: Katie Talento, she was part of the Trump organization in

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Speaker 4: the in the White House and his first term fashioning

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Speaker 4: Of course, every now and then I check in the

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Speaker 4: New Orleans, the Crescent City. But Jeff crue Air has

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Speaker 4: headquartered New Orleans, and he's an author radio talk show

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Speaker 4: host and his great columns at townhall dot com and elsewhere.

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Speaker 4: One of the columns is the genius of Trump's tariffs

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Speaker 4: and Jeff crue Air. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show,

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Speaker 4: and I'll report to you what happened in Cincinnati the

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Speaker 4: election last week or so a few days ago. I

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Speaker 4: want to hear about New Orleans. But we have a

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Speaker 4: mayor that's failed miserably. We have riots happening all over

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Speaker 4: the city when we have snow. You know much about

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Speaker 4: the New Orleans. The plows don't work, there's no pickup

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Speaker 4: ice and snow.

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Speaker 5: The assault's not going on the streets. It's terrible.

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Speaker 4: We have numerous council members in the past that have

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Speaker 4: been indicted and sent to federal prison. We have a

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Speaker 4: police chief that's been fired now for dubious reasons. He's

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Speaker 4: also fired the chief of the fire department and the

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Speaker 4: assistant chief.

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Speaker 5: With complete chaos.

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Speaker 4: So instead of the mayor f to a peer of

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Speaker 4: all getting eighty two percent of the vote, which he

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Speaker 4: got four years ago with all these scandals going on,

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Speaker 4: he got seventy eight percent of the vote. So the

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Speaker 4: voter has held him accountable from eighty two to seventy

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Speaker 4: eight percent and the half brother of jad Advance didn't

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Speaker 4: get a sniff.

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Speaker 5: What happened in New Orleans.

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Speaker 12: Well, our mayor's term limited LaToya the Destroyer, so she

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Speaker 12: cannot run again. She is going to be facing charges.

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Speaker 12: You know, she's indicted, so we'll see. It was all

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Speaker 12: because of a boyfriend, bodyguard that you know, has caused

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Speaker 12: her all kinds of trouble. And she tried to appeal

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Speaker 12: to the judge to allow her to be with the

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Speaker 12: bodyguard and because he's under indictment too, and they said no,

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Speaker 12: they could only be together in supervised setting. What so,

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Speaker 12: so I got.

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Speaker 5: The mayor and the boys.

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Speaker 4: I guess these are adults, right, they're like fifty year olds.

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Speaker 4: They got to be supervised.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, they got to be supervised. And I think it's

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Speaker 12: probably a good thing for them to be supervised because

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Speaker 12: he does what their could do. But yeah, so she

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Speaker 12: is going to be dealing with that. She's left the city.

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Speaker 12: In match, we got one hundred and sixty million dollar deficit.

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Speaker 12: They budgeted fifty seven thousand for overtime that actually wound

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Speaker 12: up costing about sixty million dollars in overtime because we

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Speaker 12: had a we had a terrorist attack, We had the

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Speaker 12: Super Bowl, we had the Sugar Bowl, we had Martie Gras,

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Speaker 12: and they budgeted fifty seven thousand for police overtime, and

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Speaker 12: they were about sixty million dollars off on that, and

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Speaker 12: then all the other shenanigans involving there. There are ridiculous

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Speaker 12: budgeting and they're ridiculous spending. So now tomorrow Bill the

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Speaker 12: big day. They're meeting with state officials to see if

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Speaker 12: they can get bailed out by the State of Louisiana.

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Speaker 12: Will the state require a fiscal administrator, which is someone

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Speaker 12: to babysit them and make sure the money is spent

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Speaker 12: in the right way, So basically the state would be

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Speaker 12: running the city. The city's balking at that. They want

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Speaker 12: to do some kind of compromise where they have an

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Speaker 12: oversight but not an administrator. Will the state give the money.

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Speaker 12: We'll find out tomorrow. So bottom line is New Orleans

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Speaker 12: has got a prison it is run by the federal

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Speaker 12: government under a federal consent decree. We've got a police

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Speaker 12: apartment that's run by the federal government under a federal

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Speaker 12: consent decree. And we could have a city hall pretty

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Speaker 12: much run by the State of Louisiana. So really, the

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Speaker 12: city of New Orleans at some point man will be

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Speaker 12: really running nothing.

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Speaker 4: Well, the city of Cincinnati can't figure it out because

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Speaker 4: are the voters. I imagine the voters New Orleans can't

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Speaker 4: figure it out. And Landry, I guess the governor Louisiana

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Speaker 4: is all angry about LSU. Maybe the guy who negotiated

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Speaker 4: the contract for Brian Kelly could get Maybe that guy

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Speaker 4: could get involved in running the city New Orleans. They

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Speaker 4: appeared to be equally competent.

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Speaker 12: Right, the same guy that hired jimbo Fisher, and I

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Speaker 12: guess they had to pay him seventy three million. Scott

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Speaker 12: Woodward wound up hiring Brian Kelly, and they got to

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Speaker 12: know paying fifty four million. They're at illegal to speed

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Speaker 12: right now as to whether he was fired for calls

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Speaker 12: or not, whether they're going to owe him the full

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Speaker 12: fifty four million. So that's going to be going on

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Speaker 12: for a while.

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Speaker 11: We don't have it.

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Speaker 12: We have an interim coach, we just got a new

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Speaker 12: LSU president. Looks like the governor wants to run and everything,

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Speaker 12: so I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We got opportunities everywhere.

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Speaker 4: So New Orleans they budgeted fifty seven thousand dollars for overtime.

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Speaker 4: LaToya the destroyer with a little bit off. Instead of

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Speaker 4: fifty seven thousand, it was sixty million. They're upside down,

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Speaker 4: hundreds of millions of dollars. She's indicted for lying, and

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Speaker 4: she's having sex with the boyfriend who's also the bodyguard,

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Speaker 4: and now they have a chaperone. One of those two

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Speaker 4: get together to do what keep your hands out of

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Speaker 4: her pants?

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Speaker 5: What the hell's going on? And now you can't make

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Speaker 5: this up? And so I guess Louisiana's got to bail

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Speaker 5: out New Orleans. It's amazing to me.

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati has run like New Orleans, but when you face

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Speaker 4: the voters, where's the accountability?

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Speaker 11: Right?

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Speaker 12: Well, here in New Orleans, we just had elections, so

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Speaker 12: LaToya that destroyed couldn't run again. But the councilwoman at large,

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Speaker 12: Helena Moreno, who's really been overseeing this whole thing as

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Speaker 12: council president, she just got elected mayor.

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Speaker 13: So she said she's.

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Speaker 12: Going to bring in changes, But she's been there the

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Speaker 12: whole time sort of watching everything and doing nothing. So

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Speaker 12: how are they going to bring in changes? When they

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Speaker 12: hired someone from the city council to be the new mayor?

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Speaker 12: And they just re elected the other councilmen at large,

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Speaker 12: and they put some new politicians into some other council positions.

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Speaker 12: So they've brought in nobody knew, nobody reform oriented. No

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Speaker 12: Republicans have a prayer. The Republican got like two percent

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Speaker 12: of the vote and the mayor's race and eight percent

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Speaker 12: of the vote in the city council race.

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Speaker 4: Jadie Vance's half brother here got like twenty one percent,

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Speaker 4: and he thought that was good. At least you don't

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Speaker 4: have a communist running New Orleans like Mamdani them. At

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Speaker 4: least you don't have communists.

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Speaker 12: You have incompetence, right, we just have a just a

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Speaker 12: traditional garden variety super left progressive democrat, not a communist.

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Speaker 12: He's a former broadcaster. See they come from television. People

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01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 12: trust him on TV and then they run for political office.

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Speaker 4: Before we talk about the teriffs, your column is great

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Speaker 4: of a couple few days ago.

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Speaker 5: I want to get your take to it.

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Speaker 4: The Democrats and the Republicans in Washington and the Senate,

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Speaker 4: the Democrats have voted seventeen times to shut down the government.

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Speaker 4: They Republicans have voted seventeen times to keep it open.

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01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 4: And now it's back open, ready to go. And now

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Speaker 4: the Democrats are saying Trump shut down the government, when

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Speaker 4: Trump is the one opening the government and the Democrats

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Speaker 4: are the ones shutting down the government. Now we're being

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Speaker 4: told by the media that Trump shut down the government

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Speaker 4: and the Democrats had nothing to do with it. Uh,

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Speaker 4: my head is swimming. For those who aren't paying attention,

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01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,440
Speaker 4: describe what's happening in Washington.

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Speaker 2: I think he described it well.

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Speaker 12: I mean, the Democrats are cracking up because eight Democrats

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Speaker 12: decided to buck Chuck Schumer and go along with the

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01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 12: Republicans to open up the government. The far left is

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Speaker 12: furious it does eight Senate Democrats, the House Democrats are furious,

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Speaker 12: the activists are furious. But the government will reopen. I

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Speaker 12: think the House is going to be coming back, and

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Speaker 12: you know, they'll finally get around to you are reopening.

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Speaker 2: The government, and they're gonna they're.

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Speaker 12: Promising a vote on Obamacare subsidies. And remember when they

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01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 12: sold us Obamacare, they said it was going to be affordable. Yeah,

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01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 12: it didn't turn out to be affordable bill, So that

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01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 12: was another lie that they sold us. So here we are. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: we're getting back to the government. So that's for the holidays.

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Speaker 12: We're not going to have a government shutdown and people

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01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 12: can get back to their snap benefits and you know

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01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 12: the air traffic controllers and all the other stuff that

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Speaker 12: the government does.

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Speaker 4: It's almost like New Orleans is running Washington, d C.

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Speaker 4: I'm and now, according to one IPSOS poll, seventy percent

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Speaker 4: of the American people believe you don't get the truth

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01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 4: from the mainstream media. Seventy percent say the media has

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01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 4: a political ideology rather than factual facts being reported. I

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01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 4: see that constantly, and I'm thinking that's surprising. The other

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01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 4: thirty percent, what have you been thinking? And I played

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Speaker 4: before the cuts of Barack Hussein Obama saying about Obamacare

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01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 4: will reduce waste, fraud, and abuse number one. Two, it

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01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,879
Speaker 4: will take four trillion dollars off the deficit. Number three,

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01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 4: it'll slow the growth of premiums. In fact, you're going

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01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 4: to save twenty five one hundred dollars off premiums the

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Speaker 4: first five or six years.

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Speaker 5: And none of these things happened.

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Speaker 4: Automatic triggers in the cuts to the federal budget in

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Speaker 4: order to make up the shortfall. There's no relationship between

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Speaker 4: Obamacare promises and Obamacare reality and because it is way

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01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 4: upside down. The Democrats say, we have to fund more.

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01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 4: We got to send more money to a failed system

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01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 4: to prop it up when we know it failed. Only

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01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 4: in the Democratic Party can you fund a failure and

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01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 4: have many people shake their head saying, yeah, we have

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Speaker 4: to fund more failure.

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01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 5: Can you smell what I'm cooking?

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Speaker 12: Oh, you're exactly right. And remember they didn't even know

1509
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 12: what they were voting on, because Nancy Pelosi said, we

1510
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 12: have to vote on it first before we understand what's

1511
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 12: in it. So I mean they didn't even know what

1512
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 12: they were voting on. I interviewed on my program Bill

1513
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 12: the one man in Congress, his name is Joseph gal

1514
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 12: from New Orleans, who was a Republican elected from New Orleans.

1515
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 12: He was a post Katrina miracle. We only served one term,

1516
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 12: but he was a very diligent guy.

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01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 11: He read the.

1518
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 12: Twenty seven hundred and eighteen pages of the Obamacare bill,

1519
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,879
Speaker 12: the only member of Congress that knew it backwards and forwards,

1520
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 12: and nobody else really knew what they were voting on.

1521
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 12: Of course, they passed it, and then we got the

1522
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 12: nonsense that we've had. Republicans have had chances to get

1523
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 12: rid of it ever since they John McCain failed us.

1524
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 12: Remember he went to the well of the Senate.

1525
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 2: And put his thumb down and that was it.

1526
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 5: And now we're stuck because it's failed. We have to

1527
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 5: fund it.

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01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 12: We have to fund it. And it is a disaster.

1529
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 12: It is everything but what they promised, which was affordable.

1530
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 12: And now they're ranning and raving about everything that they've

1531
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 12: forced upon us. And you know, Republicans really should have

1532
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 12: come up with alternatives and gotten rid of this thing

1533
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 12: a long time ago and had, you know, a much

1534
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 12: better program than this, because this is just a disaster

1535
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:53,839
Speaker 12: and it's just going to continue to be a disaster.

1536
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 12: We're just putting a band aid on gaping wounds here

1537
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 12: with Obamacare. Government can't do anything right. They're going to

1538
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 12: find that out in New York City when they run

1539
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 12: the grocery stores Dale. It's not going to be pretty.

1540
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:09,640
Speaker 4: January thirtieth is coming. And I watched this morning in

1541
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 4: one of the talk shows that King Jeffreys talked about

1542
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 4: we're going to replay the same thing January thirtieth. They

1543
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 4: only hit the government open until January thirtieth, and he said,

1544
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 4: at that point, we're going to do it again. So

1545
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 4: the Democrats are going to fire, layoff air traffic controllers,

1546
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 4: the military not say out it's not benefits again in

1547
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 4: the dead winner of January, because after all, it seems

1548
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 4: to be working for them, and which is you know,

1549
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 4: something fails, let's fund it. Let's talk about your column

1550
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 4: on tariffs. Only have a couple of minutes remaining. You

1551
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 4: make the point that tariff revenue for the US dramatically

1552
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:47,600
Speaker 4: rose to two hundred and fifteen billion dollars compared to

1553
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 4: seventy seven billion the previous year. In fact, tariffs are working.

1554
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:54,799
Speaker 4: It did not cause massive inflation, it didn't cause layoffs.

1555
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 4: The media is rooting for failure. It didn't happen.

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01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 12: Why well, because all these economists are biased, and all

1557
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 12: of them said that it was going to be a disaster,

1558
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 12: and it's not because you know, they were trying to

1559
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 12: scare the American people. And it turns out that this

1560
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 12: has helped us forward peace deals, brought in a lot

1561
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 12: more revenue. It was going to eventually, of course help

1562
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 12: American manufacturing, American jobs. Again, that's the whole reason the

1563
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:22,679
Speaker 12: President wanted to do this, because we were taken advantage

1564
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 12: of by all these countries all over the world. We

1565
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 12: didn't have access to their markets. They had access to

1566
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 12: our markets. Our goods were being charged tremendous tariffs. We

1567
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 12: were letting these goods in here with very minimal tariffs.

1568
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 12: So yeah, we've gone from like seventy seven billion to

1569
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 12: over twodred and fifteen billion. Next year Scott Bessant is

1570
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,879
Speaker 12: projecting it'll be five hundred billion.

1571
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 11: And then the.

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01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 12: President says, all right, let's get some tax rebates, some

1573
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 12: tariff f rebates to the American people two thousand dollars,

1574
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 12: and you know, let's pay down the national debt, which is,

1575
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 12: by the way, bill increasing every two months by a trillion.

1576
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 12: So we're now at thirty eight point one trillion dollar

1577
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 12: national debt. We have an idea to help pay it down.

1578
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 5: I'm all in favor of it.

1579
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 4: You also talk about the inflation rate, which is three

1580
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 4: point zero two percent to the nine percent inflation of

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01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 4: the Disasters administration. And I had on Victor Davis Hanson

1582
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:23,719
Speaker 4: a few weeks ago. Unemployment is down to four percent.

1583
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 4: We're getting tariff income to walk down the deficit. We

1584
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 4: have inflation at three percent instead of nine percent. We

1585
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 4: have the Southern border is shut down. We have military

1586
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 4: enlistments or way up. People want to join the military,

1587
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 4: they want to join ICE, they want to enforce the

1588
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 4: law right. In fact, all the objective measurements of what

1589
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 4: is everything that should be up is up. Everything that

1590
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 4: should be down is down. However, the media reports lies

1591
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 4: and fabrications because the truth is dangerous to the Democrats.

1592
01:29:55,880 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 4: And so if you watch the media, you think these

1593
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 4: are the worst at times. Economically they're the best at times.

1594
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 4: But people like my producer Tony Bender, doesn't see it,

1595
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:09,600
Speaker 4: doesn't feel it, because he's told all this garbage, you know,

1596
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 4: garbage in, garbage out.

1597
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 5: The garbage is put in.

1598
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 4: The in the mainstream of news, and so you cough

1599
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 4: back out what you think to be the reality. I

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01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 4: paid two I paid two dollars and fifty cents for

1601
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 4: a gallon of gas yesterday, two dollars and fifty cents.

1602
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 4: That goes into inflation. So how do we overcome the

1603
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 4: mediaized to tell the truth? What is the real status

1604
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 4: of the American economy? Jeff crue Air, what is it?

1605
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 12: I think he hit the nail on the head. It's

1606
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 12: really good. I mean, we pay to forty eight man

1607
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 12: here I just got a gas this morning. I mean,

1608
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 12: the prices are great, and that's a tax cut for

1609
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 12: the American people when the price of gas is so low.

1610
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 12: And yeah, we're drilling again, so that's another thing that's

1611
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 12: good for the economy. You know, we've unleashed American energy

1612
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 12: once again. You know, the border is secure, so we

1613
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 12: don't have millions of illegals coming here. We're trying to

1614
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 12: deport the krims, which of course the left doesn't want

1615
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 12: us to do, so they want to protect the criminals

1616
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 12: that are here. So all those measures you're right on target.

1617
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:09,680
Speaker 12: I mean, we've got the trade deficit down. You know,

1618
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 12: we're we're doing the right thing as far as uh,

1619
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 12: you know, inflation. Interest rates are finally starting to come down.

1620
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,520
Speaker 12: The one problem has been this guy's er own poll hasn't.

1621
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 13: Reduced interest rates like you should.

1622
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 12: So the interest rate level now is still double what

1623
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 12: it was, more than double what it was when Donald Trump.

1624
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 13: Left office the first time.

1625
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 12: So that's what's I think causing the problem with young

1626
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 12: kids being able to buy homes. I mean can't get

1627
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 12: a mortgage. I mean it costs too much. So that's

1628
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 12: why the President's talking about fifty year mortgages and you know,

1629
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 12: pounding on the FED to reduce the you know, the

1630
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 12: interest rates.

1631
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 13: So there's some.

1632
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 12: Things that we need to work on. But compared to

1633
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 12: where Biden left it, I mean, we've made incredible and

1634
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,639
Speaker 12: by the way we've solved, I mean, the President's brought

1635
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 12: peace to all these different places around the world. We've

1636
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 12: got peace steals that have happened. So I mean, it

1637
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 12: is immeasurably better than it was in January of this year, and.

1638
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,679
Speaker 13: It's just been less than a year.

1639
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 12: So it's outstanding. He should have an eighty percent approval rating.

1640
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 12: I look the other day, Bill, it's incredible. It's only

1641
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 12: forty five percent, and it's it's terrible to think that

1642
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 12: he's not getting the credit that he deserves for what

1643
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:20,919
Speaker 12: he's done.

1644
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,599
Speaker 4: Chunk and the American people get all their information from

1645
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 4: the mainstream media, garbage in, garbage out.

1646
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 5: Are you ready for the big question?

1647
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 11: I'm ready.

1648
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 5: We have a communist in New.

1649
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 4: York City, LaToya the destroyers, I guess going to federal

1650
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 4: persons sometime soon. She has a chaperone, when she has

1651
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 4: her bodyguard. Now almost Cincinnati just elected a corrupt, ugly

1652
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 4: mayor with seventy eight percent of the vote instead of

1653
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 4: eighty two percent Brandon Johnson and Chicago is talking about

1654
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 4: having Chicago police have an armed insurrection against ice. We

1655
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:57,520
Speaker 4: have Karen Bass complete incompetent in Los Angeles. San Francisco

1656
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 4: looks like Bangladesh. Thank Godnancy Pelosi. We got to get

1657
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 4: Nancy Pelosi to run the Department of the Treasury. She

1658
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,679
Speaker 4: knows more about stocks and Warren Buffett. For God's sakes,

1659
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 4: can we survive if almost every major American city is

1660
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 4: in collapse?

1661
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 12: Well, I mean that's the situation and it has been

1662
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 12: for a while. And what I think is going to

1663
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 12: have to happen is that the people in these cities

1664
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:24,640
Speaker 12: that keep voting in these dangerous idiots are just going

1665
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,639
Speaker 12: to have to eventually get with the program and say, hey,

1666
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:29,759
Speaker 12: you know, we can't keep electing these people and expect

1667
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 12: different results. And eventually, I guess the pain is going

1668
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 12: to be so much that they're going to start looking

1669
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 12: at alternatives and not voting these Democrats over and over.

1670
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 12: But thankfully people have started fleeing those areas. Yes, so

1671
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,760
Speaker 12: they're going you know, the realtor of the Year is

1672
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,840
Speaker 12: Zorn Modonmi in Florida. They just named him twenty twenty

1673
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 12: six Realtor of the Year. Damn Florida.

1674
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 4: I'm he's doing a lot for the pricing in Florida. Well,

1675
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 4: we got Jeff Career. I could spend a all day

1676
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 4: with you. But the good luck wi LaToya the Destroyer,

1677
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 4: We got Apte pure of all you have Latoria destroyers.

1678
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 4: Chicago's got Brandon Johnson, Kim Bass, Mom, Donnie, Jeff Crueer,

1679
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 4: thanks for coming on.

1680
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 5: You're a great American.

1681
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Bill, Bill.

1682
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 4: Cunningham, the great American. Live with you every Sunday night,

1683
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,720
Speaker 4: Billy cunning Him, the great American. Jeff crue Aer makes

1684
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,679
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of sense to me about tariffs, et cetera.

1685
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 4: And I know next Sunday night we're gonna have to

1686
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 4: deal again with Jeffrey Epstein because of what the Trump

1687
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 4: shud did about an hour and a half ago, telling

1688
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 4: the Republicans to support the release of Epstein files. Something

1689
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 4: he opposed, something he went after Thomas Massey for voting

1690
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 4: yes and Marjorie Taylor Green for voting yes. Now Trump's

1691
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 4: done a three sixty or one eighty, and now is

1692
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 4: telling Republicans please vote to release the files, which means

1693
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 4: in the Senate, John Thunell have that up in the

1694
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 4: next week or two, release the files. And the Trump's

1695
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 4: just going to sign a law releasing the files. Will

1696
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 4: that play hate those who have Trump derangement syndrome?

1697
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 5: I don't think so.

1698
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 4: They'll come on with something else plus continue with Morris,

1699
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 4: I said, coming up next as Katie Talento, she worked

1700
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:06,600
Speaker 4: in the first Trumpet administration. On the evils of Obamacare

1701
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:20,879
Speaker 4: and more. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday, Bill Cunningham,

1702
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 4: the Great American. Of course, the healthcare crisis in America

1703
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:27,640
Speaker 4: has caused the shutdown of the government now open and

1704
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 4: watching one of the morning talk shows, Keem Jeffers is

1705
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,440
Speaker 4: saying they have another bite at the apple in about

1706
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 4: ten weeks. January thirtieth is not that far away, and

1707
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:40,679
Speaker 4: he says there might be another government shutdown happening, which

1708
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 4: is utterly ridiculous. Putting money into a failed system, a

1709
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:47,720
Speaker 4: failed government program, doubling down on stupid is often what

1710
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 4: Democrats and what many in Washington do. Some are fighting

1711
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 4: against it. Katie Talento is the executive director of Alliance

1712
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:58,760
Speaker 4: of Healthcare sharing. And first of all, Katie Talento, tell

1713
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 4: us you give me generally in the American people the

1714
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 4: status of health care in America today. Volumes have been

1715
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:08,680
Speaker 4: written on that topic. But about out on ninety three

1716
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 4: percent of us get either our health insurance from Medicare,

1717
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 4: Medicaid from private plans through employers or veterans or whatever.

1718
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 4: It might be about seven percent through the Obamacare exchanges,

1719
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,679
Speaker 4: which have failed miserably. So since you're in the industry,

1720
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 4: what is happening to us healthcare system in America in

1721
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 4: general and the response to it by.

1722
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 18: Government, Well, it's not a good situation, Bill, Thanks for

1723
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 18: having me. Yeah, I think the affordability crisis is hitting everybody,

1724
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 18: and so you know, premiums are up double digits this

1725
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 18: year for everyone. Even federal employee has got a twelve

1726
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 18: percent rate hike, so you know, they get no love

1727
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 18: for having been put out of work for you know,

1728
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 18: twenty seven weeks, but they have to now pay more

1729
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 18: for their insurance too, so at least they're suffering with

1730
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 18: the rest of us. I do think that this is

1731
01:36:56,200 --> 01:37:00,639
Speaker 18: going to become a campaign issue unfortunately, and Republics are

1732
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 18: usually in trouble when healthcare becomes a campaign issue. You know,

1733
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 18: I was a veteran of the White House when we

1734
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 18: were doing repeal and replaced back in the day, and

1735
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:10,599
Speaker 18: I can tell you it's going to take longer than

1736
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 18: you know, five weeks for us to negotiate some sort

1737
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 18: of master plan here. So I think that if the

1738
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 18: Democrats want to have another shutdown, they will do that

1739
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 18: at their political peril. But you know, that may not

1740
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 18: be the best thing for the American people at this point.

1741
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 5: What happened.

1742
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 4: I've done many topics the last few days weeks on

1743
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 4: the failure of Obamacare, in which is government subsidizing and

1744
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 4: billions of dollars that might be forty to fifty billion

1745
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 4: a year.

1746
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:36,600
Speaker 5: Maybe you have the number.

1747
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 4: That Washington sends directly to insurance companies under a promise

1748
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 4: to hold down premiums and to the to the seven

1749
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 4: twenty three million people on Obamacare. Why did Obamacare fail?

1750
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:55,160
Speaker 18: So the promise to hold down premiums has not really

1751
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 18: been tested. Obviously, the premiums have skyrocketed. They've more than

1752
01:37:58,880 --> 01:37:59,799
Speaker 18: tripled since.

1753
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 19: Twenty when the bill was first enacted.

1754
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:07,720
Speaker 18: However, affordability is sort of addressed by Obamacare because they

1755
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 18: just subsidize your overpriced premiums. And so the vast majority

1756
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,640
Speaker 18: of people who are buying their plans on the Obamacare

1757
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 18: exchanges are getting premium subsidies, so their premiums are either

1758
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:20,679
Speaker 18: free or they are largely subsidized. And that is truly

1759
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 18: the only way that you can keep anyone who is

1760
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 18: younger or healthier, or who is not sort of already sick,

1761
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 18: from fleeing this market where it's so unaffordable that they

1762
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 18: don't see the value of it. But they need to

1763
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 18: have all these younger healthy people in the insurance pool,

1764
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 18: or the insurers do, or else it'll go into what

1765
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 18: we call in the insurance business the death spiral, where

1766
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 18: it's just sicker and older and sicker and older people

1767
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 18: every year, and then the premiums go up, and then

1768
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 18: a few are younger healthy people leave because they can't

1769
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 18: afford it anymore, and then it's older and sicker, and

1770
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 18: so this get you get into the spiral, and that's

1771
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 18: that's the.

1772
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 19: Death of an insurance product. So they have to force

1773
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:03,599
Speaker 19: people to stay in the pool, and that's why it's failing.

1774
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 18: It was never a good value for young healthy people

1775
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 18: when you're requiring these policies to cover everything from abortion

1776
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 18: and trans surgeries to maternity writers for men, and you know,

1777
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 18: preventive cap smears for men. You know, like this, this

1778
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 18: is too much. It's too much insurance coverage for what

1779
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 18: most people need, and it's not enough insurance coverage for

1780
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 18: the people who do need it because the deductibles.

1781
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 19: Are so high they can't even afford to use their

1782
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 19: plan when they when they do need it. So it's

1783
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 19: an absolute failure.

1784
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:37,840
Speaker 18: I do think that there are promising alternatives out there,

1785
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 18: like health care sharing ministries, like health savings accounts, like

1786
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:44,919
Speaker 18: direct primary Care, which is sort of a Netflix subscription

1787
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 18: for unlimited primary care, and people are fleeing to these

1788
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 18: better alternatives that feel more human and feel more rational.

1789
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:53,599
Speaker 19: Meeting their needs.

1790
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:56,799
Speaker 4: Funding of failure is what Washington does, which is why

1791
01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 4: Democrats want Obamacare to be funded. I spoke to twenty

1792
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 4: eight year old who called in a couple a week

1793
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:04,640
Speaker 4: or two ago, and this guy says, look, I was

1794
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 4: in Obamacare for like two years. I got out because

1795
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:09,640
Speaker 4: I never I never used it, I never went to

1796
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:12,639
Speaker 4: the er, I never I had a primary care physician,

1797
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 4: but I didn't feel a need to go. It was

1798
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:16,840
Speaker 4: costing me seven hundred dollars a month, and I'm thinking,

1799
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 4: why am.

1800
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:17,560
Speaker 5: I doing it?

1801
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:19,719
Speaker 4: I got rid of it. Plus, he said to me, Look,

1802
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 4: isn't it true? He called me Uncle Bill. Isn't it true,

1803
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 4: Uncle Bill, that if I have something bad happens to me,

1804
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 4: I can go to the er anyway and get care

1805
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 4: at the er, and if I can't pay for it,

1806
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 4: I can't pay for it. So why have insurance if

1807
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:35,680
Speaker 4: I get the product anyway for nothing? How do you

1808
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 4: respond to him?

1809
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 19: He's exactly right, He's making completely rational choices.

1810
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 18: You can go to the er and they are required

1811
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:46,559
Speaker 18: to treat you regardless of your coverage. Now, you might

1812
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 18: end up with a really horrific build being said to you,

1813
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 18: you might end up in collections over it, but at

1814
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 18: least you will be treated in that moment if you're

1815
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 18: having a life threatening issue. I totally sympathize with your

1816
01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 18: caller because he's the exact reason why Obama Care.

1817
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 19: Is failing young healthy people.

1818
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 18: They just see no value in this product, so why

1819
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:10,520
Speaker 18: would they stay? And so you're left with only healthy, unhealthy,

1820
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 18: expensive people, driving up premiums so that it happens even

1821
01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 18: worse next year that's why this whole project has failed,

1822
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:19,840
Speaker 18: and that's why we've got to seek alternatives.

1823
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 19: I was so encouraged by President.

1824
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 18: Trump tweeting, or rather truthing out in the past couple

1825
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 18: of weeks about let's just stop putting money in insurers pocket.

1826
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:32,520
Speaker 19: And let's actually put it in health saving.

1827
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 18: Accounts for people so they can go buy what they want.

1828
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 4: Great idea, but a King Jeffries and the Democrats don't

1829
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 4: want any part of that because it puts the person

1830
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:43,680
Speaker 4: in charge, not big time health insurers who pay them

1831
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:46,120
Speaker 4: huge amounts of money and campaign. I think the average

1832
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 4: America done understand that about how much money every year

1833
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 4: goes from the US Treasury to big time health insurers

1834
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 4: in order to knock down the premiums of individuals who

1835
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 4: may not use the product at all. How much money

1836
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 4: is the taxpayer funding healthcare insurance companies?

1837
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 5: How much money we're talking about about.

1838
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 19: It's about a trillion dollars. I promised with it with

1839
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:11,919
Speaker 19: a trillion.

1840
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 18: With a team of John Tufton's researchers a few years ago,

1841
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 18: we estimated that almost half forty seven percent. But the

1842
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:23,519
Speaker 18: entire United States budget goes towards some form of health care.

1843
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 4: Well, if you're United Healthcare, are you in the business

1844
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 4: having taken all this money from the government under Obamacare.

1845
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 4: Are you in the business and making sure that you're insured,

1846
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:38,840
Speaker 4: have great healthcare at low cost, or are you in

1847
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 4: the business of making money?

1848
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 19: Well, that's exactly right. You know, these giant.

1849
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:47,679
Speaker 18: Companies we call them the Bukah's Blue Cross United Signa

1850
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 18: at ninety man a Buka and these these giant companies,

1851
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:53,720
Speaker 18: nobody had ever heard of some of them, you know,

1852
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:56,599
Speaker 18: years ago, and now they're on the Fortune fifty list.

1853
01:42:56,680 --> 01:43:01,680
Speaker 18: Their stockholders are loving it, living it up, and their

1854
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 18: CEOs are living off.

1855
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:04,760
Speaker 19: They're billionaires.

1856
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 18: And you know, meanwhile, United Healthcare is denying a third

1857
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 18: of every claim that comes to them. And most people

1858
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 18: think of their insurer like.

1859
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:13,639
Speaker 19: The cable company. They hate them.

1860
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 18: And so this is a product that nobody really wants

1861
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:17,799
Speaker 18: to pay for because they don't.

1862
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 19: See the value in it.

1863
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 18: And when they really need it, when they really need it,

1864
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 18: it's an absolute bureaucratic night there to.

1865
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 4: Use, aren't the insurance companies because they're a for profit

1866
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:33,560
Speaker 4: business in the business of denying claims and having high deductibilities.

1867
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 4: And that's true because I listened to a keem Jeffries.

1868
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:39,719
Speaker 4: If Republicans don't agree to this want you want people

1869
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:41,439
Speaker 4: to be sick and die in hospitals, You don't want

1870
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 4: people to get medical care. In reality, the Democrats get

1871
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:49,599
Speaker 4: millions of dollars in campaign donations from insurance companies, and

1872
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 4: aren't they in the business of making money.

1873
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 5: And not in the business of providing healthcare?

1874
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,599
Speaker 18: Well, the secret of the dirty little secret of healthcare

1875
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 18: is that the insurer are interested in high prices from hospitals,

1876
01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 18: and hospitals are interested in lots of sick people. So

1877
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 18: when you get paid when people are sick and high

1878
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:11,000
Speaker 18: price stuff is done to them, you're going to get

1879
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:13,120
Speaker 18: more sickness and higher price stuff.

1880
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 19: And that's what we're seeing over and over again.

1881
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 4: You also say in this column you believe that the

1882
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 4: recent US government shutdown that ended after forty three days

1883
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 4: result of from protecting lucrative political donations from big healthcare

1884
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:31,760
Speaker 4: insurance and the media never asked a King Jeffries or

1885
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:35,920
Speaker 4: Democrats the question, how come we're funding the BUKA, the

1886
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:39,639
Speaker 4: large Blue Cross, Blue Shield and United Healthcare and signa

1887
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:43,160
Speaker 4: we're funding them and they're in the business of screwing

1888
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 4: the policy holders.

1889
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:47,520
Speaker 5: Why isn't that brought up by the media.

1890
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:50,640
Speaker 18: Well, you know, to be fair to these politicians. And

1891
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:53,639
Speaker 18: let me tell you, the healthcare swamp funds all parties

1892
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 18: and every single one of them. You know, the farm

1893
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 18: industry alone has four or five lobbyists for every.

1894
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 19: Member of Congress. So nobody is innocent here in DC.

1895
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 18: But I will tell you that, you know these people,

1896
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 18: they are in the business of making money and profiting

1897
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:09,760
Speaker 18: off of our sickness.

1898
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:11,839
Speaker 19: But the American people are.

1899
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 18: Also absolutely committed to having insurance at any cost.

1900
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:18,559
Speaker 19: I mean, we have seen that.

1901
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 18: It's unfortunately, if you try to take i mean the

1902
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:25,639
Speaker 18: battle scars from the repeal and replaced effort in twenty seventeen,

1903
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:29,479
Speaker 18: if you try to take a single dollar away from

1904
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 18: insurance subsidies for even a small percentage of of the

1905
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:37,559
Speaker 18: American people, you will lose the next election. So I

1906
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 18: think the Republicans take this issue on at their peril.

1907
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:42,559
Speaker 18: The Democrats take this issue on at their peril. It's

1908
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:44,519
Speaker 18: very perils and it's going to make everybody a little

1909
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 18: bit scared.

1910
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 19: So it'll be very interesting to see what happens over the.

1911
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 10: Next few weeks.

1912
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:50,759
Speaker 4: You seem to say almost Katie Talento of the Alliance

1913
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:54,639
Speaker 4: for a Health Care Sharing it's almost a soluble problem

1914
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 4: that Democrats are incentivized to keep the issue front and center.

1915
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 4: By the way, Obamacare little or nothing to do with

1916
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 4: the shutdown, because the shutdown was shutting down the whole government.

1917
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:06,760
Speaker 4: So the Democrats said, look, we're not going to pay

1918
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 4: the soldiers, We're going to make TSC agents sleep in

1919
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:12,640
Speaker 4: their cars, We're going to shut down Snap, We're going

1920
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 4: to shut down the entire government on this unrelated issue

1921
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:19,320
Speaker 4: of giving money to insurance companies out of the public treasury.

1922
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 4: And I think the American people bought it because politically,

1923
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 4: most of the polls now indicate this weekend that Republicans

1924
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:29,439
Speaker 4: are blamed for the shutdown and not Democrats. So when

1925
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:32,680
Speaker 4: Republicans voted to open the government and Democrats voted to

1926
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 4: close the government, the American people believe that the Republicans

1927
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 4: closed the government and the Democrats wanted to open the government,

1928
01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 4: when in reality, the Republicans wanted to open the government

1929
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 4: and the Democrats wanted to close the government. You know

1930
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Democratically, the Democratic Party won.

1931
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 14: No.

1932
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 2: I mean, they're in.

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Speaker 18: A civil war right now over. You know, they're eight

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Speaker 18: traders who actually.

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Speaker 19: Opened the governments.

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Speaker 18: But those eight traders, the Democrats who voted with the

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Speaker 18: Republicans to reopen.

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Speaker 19: The government government, they're the ones in.

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Speaker 18: The swing states, so they kind of know that this

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Speaker 18: is not actually a good plan to just shut down

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Speaker 18: not do their jobs for months on end. So I

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Speaker 18: think Democrats that actually are in any kind of political peril,

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Speaker 18: we're thanking these eight behind the back, behind the scenes

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Speaker 18: all right now.

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Speaker 4: And lastly, for those of us who receive healthcare from

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Speaker 4: our employer, I work for a large company, and it

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Speaker 4: takes a degree in Chinese calculus to figure out all

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Speaker 4: the plans and the deductibilities, and do you want this rider?

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Speaker 4: Do you want that rider? Do you want prescriptive care?

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Speaker 4: Do you want not wanted? Do you want maternity care?

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Speaker 4: I don't need that very much. Do I need transgender care?

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Speaker 4: Which I don't think, God hope I never need that.

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Speaker 4: And so I leave with my wife to decide what

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Speaker 4: do we do. And according to polling, the majority of

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Speaker 4: employee or employee based plans are popular with employees, which

1956
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Speaker 4: is about one hundred and fifty some million people. But

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Speaker 4: still the cost keeps going up. If you're on Medicare

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Speaker 4: Medicaid generally you pay little or nothing. Anyway, you don't

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Speaker 4: have a dog in the fight. So can you tell

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Speaker 4: me get out your crystal ball, Katie Talento? How does

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Speaker 4: this issue resolve itself without a complete collapse of our

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Speaker 4: medical system?

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Speaker 5: How do we resolve it?

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Speaker 19: Well, I don't know that we're going to resolve that. Again,

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Speaker 19: I'm very nervous.

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Speaker 18: I'm very nervous that we're going to end up with

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Speaker 18: single payer at some point because it is not a

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Speaker 18: sustainable trajectory. And you're exactly right that those who are

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Speaker 18: bearing the largest cost of this are wage earners at

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Speaker 18: big employers who are actually paying for most healthcare in

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Speaker 18: this country. You're right half those country is insured on

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Speaker 18: a job. And those companies, you know, they have some

1973
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Speaker 18: other core mission that's not running a health plan, but

1974
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Speaker 18: they're now in the health insurance business and that business

1975
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Speaker 18: is absolutely spiraling. And so it's a huge crisis for

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Speaker 18: every company. And so if we don't get this under control,

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Speaker 18: I fear very much it will be the business community

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Speaker 18: that pressures Congress to have a come flee government takeover

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Speaker 18: of healthcare.

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Speaker 4: Lastly, explain single payer. I have a pretty good grasp

1981
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Speaker 4: of what it is that everyone under medicare. Explain to

1982
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Speaker 4: the average Americans what is single payer, how would it work,

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Speaker 4: and why is it a bad idea?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, so, single payer is what every other country in

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Speaker 18: the world, literally every other country in the world, has

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Speaker 18: decided to do about healthcare, where the government actually pays

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Speaker 18: for healthcare, and they do it in different ways.

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Speaker 19: In some countries like Israel.

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Speaker 18: And Germany, they basically do it like an Obamacare on steroids,

1990
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Speaker 18: where it's all filter through insurance companies which are just

1991
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Speaker 18: agents of the state. But at least you pick an

1992
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Speaker 18: insurance plan like Medicare Advantage for instance. But other countries

1993
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Speaker 18: like the UK or like Canada, you know, they just.

1994
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Speaker 19: Have the government.

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Speaker 18: You just walk into the government clinic and the government

1996
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Speaker 18: hospital and there are no insurance companies. And the reason

1997
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Speaker 18: why this is a problem, and I mean again like

1998
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Speaker 18: there are trade offs, right for some services like primary care,

1999
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Speaker 18: it's a much better experience and it's more sane in

2000
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Speaker 18: these countries where you have easy and free and unlimited

2001
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Speaker 18: access to primary care and preventive care. But what happens

2002
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Speaker 18: in these situations is when it comes times that you

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Speaker 18: need specialty care, there is rationing and long lines, and

2004
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Speaker 18: you don't get the best technology, and you don't get

2005
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Speaker 18: the timely treatment, and cancer patients are waiting, and people

2006
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Speaker 18: with you know who need knee replacements are waiting for years.

2007
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Speaker 18: There are people who die on the wait list for

2008
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Speaker 18: their knee replacement. So it's just it's not a good situation,

2009
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Speaker 18: and America has chosen a different path. I hope that

2010
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Speaker 18: we figure a way out of this. There are some

2011
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Speaker 18: innovative and creative ideas out there, like health care sharing ministries,

2012
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Speaker 18: like health savings accounts for everyone. I think that might

2013
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Speaker 18: help as we As you know, President Trump actually implemented

2014
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Speaker 18: when I was there, price Transparency initiative, forcing hospitals and

2015
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Speaker 18: insures to post their secret prices publicly in an effort

2016
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Speaker 18: to try to create a health care market. What we

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Speaker 18: have right now is either free nor market in healthcare.

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Speaker 18: So to the extent so we can force an actual

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Speaker 18: christ competition in health care, we might just be able

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Speaker 18: to pull this thing off, but it's going to take

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Speaker 18: a miracle from God.

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Speaker 5: It will.

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Speaker 4: Katie Talento, executive director of Alliance of health Care Sharing.

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Speaker 5: You've laid it out and I fear.

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Speaker 4: This issue is too easy to demagogue, which means sure

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Speaker 4: I had it chored within ten years of Medicare for

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Speaker 4: All system in which you will ration healthcare, and it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be similar to Canada. And most of my Canadian

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Speaker 4: friends get their medical services of any exceptional quality or

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Speaker 4: quantity from the United States. They don't stick in Canada

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Speaker 4: because to get a knee replacement or they have cancer

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Speaker 4: treatment is taking months. You'll die on the list before

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Speaker 4: it's replaced. And if someone needs a knee replacement in America,

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Speaker 4: you get it a week from Tuesday. Katie Talento, you're

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Speaker 4: a great American. Laid out the problems once again. Thank

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Speaker 4: you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Katie,

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Speaker 4: you're a great American. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 19: Thank you, Bill, you too.

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Speaker 5: God bless you. Let's continue with more. There you go.

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Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham, the Great American, live with you every Sunday night. Hi,

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Speaker 4: Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Thanks for listening tonight. It's

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Speaker 4: been adventurous. About a forty five minutes or an hour ago,

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Speaker 4: the President on Truth Social said, House Republicans on Tuesday,

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Speaker 4: release the files, the Epstein files.

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Speaker 5: That's what.

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Speaker 4: That's what the Trumpster said about an hour and a

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Speaker 4: half ago. So everything has happened up to this point.

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Speaker 4: Going after Taylor Green or Trader Green, as the Trumpster says,

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Speaker 4: or Thomas Massey of Northern Kentucky and all the others

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Speaker 4: who opposed it, put that to decide, no harm, no foul,

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Speaker 4: don't worry about it. So I would assume now sometime

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Speaker 4: shortly after Tuesday or Wednesday, Senator John Thune's going to

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Speaker 4: put some resolution on the floor of the Senate which

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Speaker 4: is going to pass. Overwhelmingly. I said overwhelmingly it's going

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Speaker 4: to pass. And that means that we're going to have

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Speaker 4: the Epstein files, everything within the control of the executive branch,

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Speaker 4: ago government or the estate.

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Speaker 5: The only remaining.

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Speaker 4: Of course, would be the would be the grand jury

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Speaker 4: testimony that the federal judiciary controls and not Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: Let's get it out, whatever it is it is. And

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Speaker 4: if some men, or I guess some the victims should

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Speaker 4: be able to say, don't put my name out there.

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Speaker 4: Many the victims are saying, put my name out there.

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Speaker 4: And the victims of these sexual assaults should have that

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Speaker 4: decision on their own, made by them or by their lawyers.

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Speaker 4: What an eventful night, Thanks for listening. Bill Cunningham, the

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Speaker 4: great American with you and all great Americans every Sunday night.